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54406769 No.54406769 [Reply] [Original]

Can you please explain me why are tips are so important even more for the waiters?

Why the fuck they are so obsessed with tipping?

>> No.54406794

>>54406769
tipping has become a social status as well. if you don't tip your a greedy nigger. im never tipping someone that does his job.

>t. not american thank fucking god

>> No.54406815

>>54406769

Americans tip their waiters because waiters are payed below minimum wage and tipping helps push their earnings above that line.

Instead of asking a bunch of incels on 4chan that rarely go outside, why don't you just Google the fucking question?

>> No.54406829

I’m extremely cheap and I still tip. You are forced to unless you want people to judge you. I care about what my friends think so I reluctantly tip 15% on all meals. If I’m by myself I wouldnt go out to a restaurant so tipping wouldn’t matter. If it’s take out or a coffee? Fuck you im tipping zero. Uber? Fuck you also. Bar tabs are another weird one. What I do is open a tab and close after the night. I write cash on the tip line and leave $1. I look less cheap.

I care about how I’m perceived by people I care about

>> No.54406841

>>54406815

How is it a Minimum Wage if some wagecucks are paid less than the minimum?

>> No.54406845
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54406845

>>54406794
>>54406829

That's normal, but why tip 20% or 30%? Don't they pay the waiters enough?

Can you give me an example of salaries?

>> No.54406856

>>54406841

I have the same question

>> No.54406860

Tipping is not helping with the root problem. It feeds it actually.
Instead of tipping, businesses should pay waitresses a fair wage

>> No.54406874

>>54406769
Americans have their tips removed at birth.

>> No.54406898

>>54406860
This

Its also far from "increases their wage to livable wage", bitch if you think you deserve a $200 tip on a $700 bill, you make more money than me doing a job a monkey could do, they are entitled

>> No.54406910

>>54406860
The only solution to this problem is a hard reset. Stop eating at restaurants or do so only a few times a year. It's also important to SHAME people that give below 30% tip so that more will follow your example.

>> No.54406917

>>54406845
Waiters paycheck will be maybe $700. Their take home tips will be around 80-200 a night. They claim exactly zero of that on taxes so it’s all tax free. They then cry about how hard it is to bring out some spoons and napkins. Fuck I hate restaurants. If it wasn’t for women’s insufferable love of them I would never go

>> No.54406927
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54406927

Listen I live at the end of a peninsula. The tendie restaurant is far as fuck and the wagie isn’t bringing it unless I add the service tax aka tip. You can get your anus twisted in a knot over the reality of my situation but if you’re lazy and fat like me who gives a fuck about a random $5 dude Jesus Christ. Are you people broke golem niggers in high school fretting over this basic shit? How has this consistently been a topic of debate on biz since at least 2017 when I came here from b.

>> No.54406937

>>54406917
learn to cook bro

>> No.54406948

>>54406937
I do and my wife does. She still likes to go out twice a month or so. I like to make her happy so we go

>> No.54406968

>>54406910
Why not shame those who do tip?

>> No.54407636

>>54406898

I tip 30€ for a +400€ dinner and I think that's too much lol

>>54406910

You're cringe as fuck, I can pay 3 times my rent with 1 month in a normal job lol

>> No.54407682

>>54406769
Originally it was just an incentive to give good service. Over time it just became expected and servers were allowed to get paid under the table with the expectation that they'll be supplemented with tips, so now even if you get lousy service so you don't tip, you're the asshole for causing financial harm to this person.

>> No.54407845

>>54406815
>we have to sustain this shitty practice because... we just have to okay

>> No.54409659

>>54406968
That won't work, tipping is the meta. To kill the meta you have to push it to the extreme so people see how stupid it is.
>>54407636
It's not that I couldn't just be a bot like you and pay 20% even if the waiter spit in my fucking soup. I just don't want to. The system is flawed and the goal has to be to make it less flawed (pay the waiters an adequate wage).

>> No.54411225

>>54406769
There are certain situations in the US where you can pay your workers under minimum wage, provided that there is a way for them to earn more. The reason for these exceptions is that it allows for the restaurant, or what ever business, can pay their employees less and keep profit margins higher. However, if at the end of the pay period, the employee's tips don't breach the minimum wage threshold, they are forced by law to meet it. Also, now it is perceived as a status/character statement to tip well at restaurants.

>> No.54411380

>>54406769

Tipping's one of those location-specific things.

I'm a Bong, and back home a tip is genuinely just an optional thing to do if you're feeling nice/want to impress dinner guests/whatever. Same with a lot of continental Europe, although the urban French and Italians are getting a little American in their attitudes to tipping these days.

In Hong Kong, though, tipping is not really a thing, instead a mandatory 10-20% service charge is just added to your bill and that's the end of it.

In Japan, tipping is completely not understood and they will literally chase you down the road to return your change to you.

In Abu Dhabi, where I live now, it's a bit of both. There's usually a service charge, and you may also leave an additional cash tip for the waiter if you want to flex or just be nice.

With Americans, tipping may as well be considered mandatory. The reason they care is basically just that they are paid slave wages in anticipation of the tips, thereby effectively building tips into the compensation model and making them quasi-mandatory.

>> No.54411952

>>54406845
>>54406856
>>54406841
the way we set up restaurants is we have the customer tip based on the quality of the waiter's service. If we did not do this the restaurant would just charge the extra amount for the food. It is an incentive program for the waiter to serve the table well. Stop crying about it, it basically makes sense. I've been to Europe and the waitstaff are fucking useless.

>> No.54412263

>>54411952
I'd give my money to the Chad restaurant owner. Surely he'll pass the extra money he makes on to his poor wagie servers

>> No.54412511

>>54406769
it lets women larp as being poor while making twice what a male makes doing a similarly skilled job.
being a waitress/bartender with cash tips allows one to larp as a poor and qualify for poor programs. while making triple what they said they make.
It allows young attractive women to make bank relative to their skills and schooling.
The fact that 18 year old women can make 50K a year 2/3 untaxed and they still have no money tells you everything you need to know.

>> No.54412528
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54412528

The only tip I give is a tip of my fedora for the ladies

>> No.54412610

>>54406917
NEET detected! Box 1 on the W2 says
>Wages, TIPS, and other comp.
Waiters have to give their tips to the owner to account for taxes. Also many restaurants will pool tips across all the waiters so the whole "better tip for better service" is thrown out the window.