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54361335 No.54361335 [Reply] [Original]

now that we know
>ETH will NOT be an unregulated security
>ETH will NOT be completely censored because CEXes are being regulated out of custodial staking services
what is the best FUD against ETH? I’m running out of ideas
>picrel

>> No.54361599
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54361599

>>54361335
>Emin from Ava Labs is technical Advisor for the CFTC
>he tells the CFTC what to attack
>LINK & AVAX are safe
>ETH ends up in a controlled demolition

>> No.54361634

>>54361335
>what is the best FUD against ETH?
https://rekt.news/leaderboard/
you're welcome.

>> No.54361637

>>54361335
Best fud? I spend $30 in gas fees yesterday sending a $100 transaction. ETH is so dam broken that it needs a fuckin L2 to save it. Its literally a fuckin mess.

>> No.54361653
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AVAX is safe you fucking idiot, Emin is literally a tech advisor fot he CFTC. AVAX is a commodity.

>> No.54361656

>>54361335
>best FUD against ETH
50% was premined and distributed to the founders before the ICO. When Eth is fully POS they're the ones that now control 51% of the network. GG no re

>> No.54361724

>>54361335
That's the CFTC and Gensler said Ethereum is a security now. There's just no way they give Ethereum a pass, otherwise the bulk of altcoins are in the same category and securities laws mean nothing.

>> No.54362191

>>54361599
checkd
>>54361634
>>54361637
>>54361653
>>54361656
>>54361724
thanks everyone I now have a new stack of ammunition to FUD ethereum with, although its not as strong as the previous fud it should suffice

>> No.54362233

ETH was a security at the start when they asked for money before the L1 was even created. The merge to 2.0 is also another security triggering event. ETH will get thrown under the bus as planned. No loyalty among Jews. Those years at Goldman were a long time ago and things have changed.

>> No.54362301

- sec concedes: ether gets an exception vs most other/newer alts:
--- bitcoin benefits massively, ether benefits massively
--- old alts not obviously securities like litecoin, monero benefit
--- future alts lose out, non ether alts lose out
- sec wins: ether doesn't get an exception, most alts securities:
--- bitcoin further extends the gap between it and the largest altcoin, market bifurcates
--- non-security alts like litecoin/monero benefit
--- alt market hype mostly disappears as it has to turn into an nft like environment instead
- cftc wins: all alts commodities except in very specific pump/dump circumstances
--- crypto market risks disappear, bitcoin pumps massively, ether pumps against bitcoin as it's token narrative is saved
--- non-security alts like litecoin/monero don't see any real major gains against the new alt markets
--- everything carries on like it was 2017, icos, premines, the casino reopens

its clear all alts labeled commodities will never happen because icos have already been shut down by the sec, so the last scenario that benefits bitcoin the least is almost entirely unlikely to happen, so in every scenario bitcoin wins, in the case of a specific exemption ethereum wins more

>> No.54362313

Please read this to see why AVAX is safe from the SEC by the way: https://crypto.bi/avax-ripple/

>> No.54362382

>>54362313
avax is no more safe than any of the other ico coins. without an exception, every single platform that did an ico at some point and also retained tokens in the network can be dismantled.

it's why the regulatory narrative for post-2016 non-ethereum alts will always be bleak compared to ethereum. either ethereum wins alone, or everything is declared a commodity.

it's not worth playing the regulatory arbitrage game with smaller alts anymore.

>> No.54362422

>>54362382
Thank you for being the most rational anon in this thread.

>> No.54362431

>>54362382
>avax is no more safe than any of the other ico coins.
wrong, go read up on it.
also see >>54361599

>> No.54362441

>>54361637
>The market price for a transaction on ETH is $30, the market values making an eth transaction very highly compared to most other chains
>This is somehow seen as bearish on eth

>> No.54362497

>>54362431
you're simply dreaming. ethereum has backing by jp morgan and fidelity, and is the clear number two alongside bitcoin in adoption within traditional financial systems
that doesn't mean it's safe, but it means it has insiders willing to fight alongside it for their own incentives.

having a connection to CFTC makes no sense because the CFTC can only claim ethereum as a commodity. that's the best case scenario in regulatory capture.

>> No.54362600

>>54362497
>ethereum has backing by jp morgan and fidelity
same as Avalanche.
>and is the clear number two alongside bitcoin in adoption within traditional financial systems
not for much longer, Avalanche is improving on many things Ethereum was trying to do.
>having a connection to CFTC makes no sense
Emin Gün Sirer CEO of Ava Labs is technical advisor to the CFTC. its unlikely they will attack him after chosing him for the Job.
DYOR

>> No.54362609

ceo and founder of avax is tech adviser to cftc

>https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1635384872746500097

>> No.54363410

>>54362609
holy fuck i should not have called out avax in the OP

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>>54361335
The CFTC and the OCC clearly stated XRP is not a security, in fact they stated it was a currency, the BIS even called it a supranational currency and it STILL got sued.
Ripple went to the SEC every quarter for 4 years and got sued, Coinbase also went to them every quarter, they got the OK to ICO and they STILL got sued.
mETHereum is now proof of shit, we TOLD you NIGGERS the SEC said staking is a security because staking is “owning a stake” in a network.
How does this information make you feel? It’s not an opinion, it’s stated facts.
You know what is an opinion? “ETH is not a security” is legally in every legal sense a personal opinion and does not and never did represent a legal standing point kek

>> No.54364322

>>54361335
CFTC has no regulation over crypto

>> No.54364356

>>54362609
>>54363410
Bwhahahaahhah
bearish for Eth and bullish for Avax
where my fellow turk roaches at?

>> No.54364389

>>54362600
yet there's no world where ethereum gets regulated but derivative projects that took even more regulatory liberties like avalance don't.
with those alts you're either fine or going down with the ship. all the lifeboats have been used.

>>54364181
it doesn't matter at this point. either ripple wins and ethereum wins by default, ripple goes down and ethereum has to defend itself against said precedence, or everything goes down.

the only reason regulators went after ripple, lbry, tron, kraken, coinbase are because they're easy wins. either clearly centralized corporate control, or obvious selling of derivatives like the non on-chain staking products.

maybe they'll win against calling tron an unregistered security, but most of the charges are unrelated to what tron actually is but around its manipulation and promotion.

>>54364356
see >>54362497, avalance goes down with ethereum without question if ethereum falls. cftc won't have any jurisdiction in that case.

>> No.54364915

>>54364389
Ripple isn’t an easy win, do you have any idea how many SEC left during the lawsuit? How many billions they’ve spent going up against the most qualified lawyers in the world?
They sued Ripple in attempts to bring down their enemy. Unfortunately the majority of the world is already on the Ripple team while even ex SWIFT board of directors says SWIFT GPI is a desperate attempt to stay relevant and maintain control.

>> No.54365098

>>54364915
tick tock
two more weeks
Trump is back
wagmiwwg1wga

>> No.54365441
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>>54365098
2 more weeks for banks to get on their knees and buy all the bitcoin. 1 quintillion bitcoin derivatives is inevitable

>> No.54365529

>>54365441
At least in xrp threads they acknowledge that ham sandwiches will cost tens of thousands of dollars when these things occur.
btcmaxies unironically believe they won't be in zimbabwe at that point.

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>>54364356
I can't believe they let a literal muslim terrorist into the CFTC. Incredibly bearish for Israel.

>> No.54366039

>>54365529
Btc cuckniggers don’t have a true understanding of CBDCs and carbon credits. They only know it’s le heckin centralized but they don’t understand it’s technology and capabilities. They don’t understand CBDCs could kill bitfuck

>> No.54366347

>>54364181
The CFTC considers cryptos in general to be commodities.
Only exceptions are securities, specifically the ones that tell people they'll pump the price.
Those get sued by the SEC and labelled securities, per the Howey test.

>> No.54366420

>>54366347
Are you just going to cope eternally? Or when will you move on?

>> No.54366426

>>54366420
... what?

>> No.54366468

>>54366426
>specifically the ones that tell people they'll pump the price.
That doesn't make you a security.

>> No.54366470

>>54366426
sorry, chatGPT malfunction. give me a minute to reboot

>> No.54366501

>>54366468
>That doesn't make you a security.
kek that's how Howey himself created his famed "expectation of profit" back in the 1940s.

>> No.54366509

>>54366347
Why don’t you literal niggers not understand the howey test? You faggot kikes bring it up every single time.
If Ripple ceases to exist, XRP would continue to exist. That alone ends the entire accusation kek you people are retarded
>muh centralized consensus
Stupid nigger it’s 2023 Ripple has 6 validators there is over 200 validators now kill yourself

>> No.54366545

>>54366509
>If Ripple ceases to exist, XRP would continue to exist.
The Howey ruling literally uses the words "promoter or third party".

>> No.54366548

>>54366501
See here retard >>54366509
Seems like you've drank the koolaid.
There is no common enterprise either between randos that buy a token and people running the token.
There is also so contract of any kind obligating anyone anything.
It's nothing like what happened in Howey and only retards or shills blindly repeat this.

>> No.54366558

>>54366548
No, you see here: >>54366545

>> No.54366566

>>54366545
Just cope with XRP pumping like crazy as everyone seems to realize what the outcome is going to be.
You lost. You were wrong for literally years.
It's over.

>> No.54366581

>>54366558
This is you.
>WAHHHHH BUT I AGREE THEY ARE STINKY BUTTS!!
>I LOVE GARYYYY IT HAS TO BE SEKURRITY!@!!
>WAHHHHH
Nope. Sorry.
Suck more government ass if you can possibly faggot.

>> No.54366600

>>54366566
>>54366581
Ripple will lose/settle.
And when it does, it will be because they literally told buyers they'd make the token pump.
Remember that.

>> No.54366655
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>>54366545
Michael Saylor is a retarded promotor that doesn’t even understand bitcoin hashrates. Him and a dozen other multi millionaires shill the fuck out of bitfuck constantly insisting it will hit 1 million, luring in a bunch of retarded niggers who see CBDCs coming and don’t understand them at all.
All bitfuck miners should also be held accountable for rugging the retail normies after mining during profitable price action and selling/pulling out when it is no longer profitable. Bitnigger and mETHereum organizations that have a monopoly on crypto news should be behind bars for shilling to the public and rugging them.

>> No.54366667

>>54364181
>mETHereum is now proof of shit, we TOLD you NIGGERS the SEC said staking is a security because staking is “owning a stake” in a network.
You just described the roach chain which was down twice this month.

>> No.54366681

>>54366600
That's the most bullish case retard.
The XRPL is not controlled by Ripple. If Ripple loses all their XRP and ceases to exist the price will absolutely skyrocket.

Brainlets coping I swear.

>> No.54366709

>>54366681
It's an interesting thought, and it could absolutely happen.
But without Ripple, the XRPL is a pretty standard blockchain. But then so is BTC, so who knows.

>> No.54366714

>>54361335
all of this is actually a battle between the CFTC and the SEC who both claim to be in charge of regulating crypto. it's about getting a judge to rule in favor of their interpretation, whatever the actual case is.

>> No.54366755

>>54366714
It's not, not really.
The SEC is not going to "battle" the CFTC.

It's very clear from the actions of both the SEC and the CTFC that cryptos are commodities in principle, but that individual cryptos can become securities if they shill their token price (like Enigma, LRBRY, Ripple, ...).

>> No.54366837

>>54366709
Without the constant shilling of the bitfuck foundation, which spends billions a year on news networks and lobbying, bitfuck would be nothing. LTC is literally 500% superior, but it simply doesn’t have the funding behind it.

>> No.54367193

>>54364915
>their enemy
whose enemy? ripple was always touted as the "insider's project" yet it's the first one the same insiders went to try and shut down.
nobody wants what they have to offer, despite paying people to use their product with their premined coin, one of the reasons for the legal action.

>> No.54367223

>>54366655
keep crying while your little failed, obsolete altcoin gets dragged trough the courts by the very people your delusional bagholder group thought liked it.

remember ripple wins = all altcoins win, ripple loses = ripple loses.

>> No.54367231

>>54366837
>LTC is literally 500% superior
hahaha why didn't you just start off by saying you had the iq of an african.

>> No.54367235

They fud themselves by offering a coin that loses its value 24 hours after the merge kek, what a piece of shit chain. Imagine complaining about taxes yet paying $20 in gas fees on each transaction lmao

>> No.54367546

>>54366709
>standard blockchain
lmao
bizlets can't even. It's the most efficient and long running chain on the planet.
No one is trusting their money to startup faggots wearing hoodies.
Nodes are run by big names all over the world.
Ripple is literally just a big holder of XRP.

I have enough XRP I can run my own small scale ODL if I wanted. That's all they are doing.

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I will never understand why AVAX has so much FUD it has been one of my top earning coins, not like the shitty ADA or FTX which I lost almost all of my investment

>> No.54367937

>>54361335
Biggest fud on ETH it's when you about to pay gas fee. Vitalik has been constantly fudding on himself for years in a row.

>> No.54368171

>>54367193
>same insiders
You mean a bunch of kikes tied to ETH foundation, FTX, Solana, the Democratic Party, and unelected congress?
Meanwhile as stated before, SEC dropping out left and right, some even joining Ripple while federal reserve and other bankers are defending XRP or joining them.
>nobody wants what the have to offer
Ask me how I know you’re a retarded nigger that only reads bitcoinniggercum(dot)troon articles with 5 year old opinions
>>54367223
No refute? Thank you for proving me right. Nothing of substance in this post just like every other seethe post when you faggots have nothing left to say as expected.
>>54367231
Seething because I’m right kek. You’re such a stupid nigger you can’t even refute anything I’m saying. Just seething and seething and seething with nothing to argue. I would kms if I were you.

>> No.54368534

>>54364322
And I'll fall back to crypto if they eventually do.

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>>54361335
When you look up Gary Genslers name, or members of the supreme court, or Merrick Garland - jewgle tries to ask you for your location because its worried people want to assassinate them.

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>>54367231
LTC is the obvious best crypto for being a currency.

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>>54361599
>>54361653
Avax is worthless like ethereum and btc. Down to zero you go.

>> No.54368834

>>54368597
I searched "How to kill gary gensler" and it did not ask for my location.

>> No.54369469

>>54368834
Because they already know.

>> No.54369505

>>54368613
If only there was a coin that did everything LTC did, but privately, and on top of that actually got used as a currency in the real world.