THE TAXMAN IS COMING

[Anonymous No.5428415]

YOU SHOULD BUY (AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT) OF MONERO, ANON.

[Anonymous No.5428523]

Nice. Just bought ( an unknown amount).

[Anonymous No.5428558]

buy aeon if you want true value

[Anonymous No.5428578]

>only have (an unknown amount)
W-will I make it anons?

[Anonymous No.5428606]

>>5428415

[Anonymous No.5428656]

nice just bought ???k

[Anonymous No.5428685]

>>5428578
Does the document say (an unknown amount) of aeon? >>5428606 No. Have fun getting buttfucked by Jamal in prison when the IRS catches up with you. Get that scam trash out of this thread and never post again.

[Anonymous No.5428719]

>Buy 100k worth of monero
>IRS subponeas all exchanges and sees you bought a shit ton of monero

Yea good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.5428746]

>>5428415
been seeing a fuckton of 45ms pings on monero past day...
right where chicago is.. KEK
usually the moneros here ping 90-150ms
alot of North American range latencies the past day...

[Anonymous No.5428759]

>>5428719
>IRS can suboena foreign entities.
Nice try shlomo.

[Anonymous No.5428775]

>>5428719
That's not how the world works, anon.

[Anonymous No.5428808]

Sumokoin is better than Monero

[Anonymous No.5428827]

>>5428759
Shot that mouth breather down in FLAMES, Anon. Holy Shit!

[Anonymous No.5428858]

>>5428415
I just laughed (an unknown amount) of times.

[Anonymous No.5428864]

>>5428746
Yeah. I saw that traffic spiking, and bought back in right away. Hello fellow Spoopy Skellington. Kek.

[Anonymous No.5428876]

>>5428759
I bet everyone here trades on Bittrex. Bittrex is a USA entity. We're all fucked.

[Anonymous No.5428878]

>>5428759

LOL Gox go subponead by the US government tard. Sovereignty is only a myth, if you really think I'm a Schlomo then I'll tell you that dirty secret that keeps us in power.

[Anonymous No.5428884]

>>5428759
>he thinks every country in the world wanting to even remain on speaking terms with the US markets will refuse a legal warrant
>even the Swiss have been spreading their asscheeks for the IRS for years
>keeping all of his money in Best Korea or an ISIS-owned exchange just to avoid paying his 15% to Israel

[Anonymous No.5428903]

>>5428415
*BLOCKS YOUR PATH*

fuck taxes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2637444.0

[Anonymous No.5428916]

>>5428415
just bought an 100k unkown amount of monero

[Anonymous No.5428932]

>>5428685
aeon is a fork of monero and is being marketed as litecoin of monero. go ahead and miss out on the obvious gains.

[Anonymous No.5428962]

>>5428685
>scam trash
are you fucking brand new? if you're trying to shill aeon you're failing fucking miserably. what you just said is like going to a lambo dealership and trying to sell your 1998 corolla by calling the lambos "slow buckets". literally nobody is dumb enough to not see through it m8

[Anonymous No.5428977]

> Buy Monero
> Literally can't cash out ever

The taxman will want to know where the BTC came from when you trade the XMR to BTC when cashing out. You'll also be charged short term capital gains with a zero cost basis of you don't provide transaction records.

[Anonymous No.5429020]

>>5428932
If i wanted to dink with coins that compromised my security through my phone, I would have hopped on with the Vergins.

[Anonymous No.5429029]

>>5428977
Quit America and renounce citizenship

[Anonymous No.5429033]

>>5428808
No, it's not.
All of these monero clones rely on the monero libraries to function. What happens to your little sumokoin (faggot name) and ETN (core xmr dev -yeah, k.) when the real heroes, who by the way are bringing back i2p by themselves to serve every drug dealer, hacker, and free citizen in the world, go down?
Don't be stupid, don't shill worthless non-xmr. Crypto depends on it

[Anonymous No.5429050]

>>5428977
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.5429086]

>>5429050

[Anonymous No.5429088]

>>5429033

You do know monero itself is a fork, right?

It's a shame Boolberry never took off, it was the less-douchy version of cryptonote.

[Anonymous No.5429093]

>>5429020
wtf u talking about? aeon has never "compromised" any security. it is literally a xmr clone.

[Anonymous No.5429096]

>>5429050
Explain to me how you will spend the gold? How will you buy a house with it?

[Anonymous No.5429118]

>>5428903
This guy gets it

[Anonymous No.5429130]

>>5428962
Aeon is actually a test bed for xmr and is probably the only clone with any real future. It actually has a very core xmr dev working with them, and xmr to aeon atomic swaps will probably be a thing.

[Anonymous No.5429143]

>>5429050
>>5429086
I'd probably use https://rrbi.co/ instead of JM bullion.

[Anonymous No.5429181]

>>5429096
A freind sells his gold on "Megs List" for "Green Leaves". p2p.

[Anonymous No.5429198]

>>5429181
Ok now you wanna buy a house with green leaves. what do?

[Anonymous No.5429209]

>>5429143
Thanks for the secondary contact. Will file it.

[Anonymous No.5429226]

>minimum amount of fiat to xmr on european exchanges is 100 eurobucks
FUCK

[Anonymous No.5429240]

>>5429086

XMR to BTC to Gold is still taxable, not to mention it will probably result in tax evasion charges if audited.

[Anonymous No.5429241]

>>5429198
Don't have to. A freind of mine has bought and sold real roperty for gold with no problems.

[Anonymous No.5429285]

>>5429240
I don't buy shit with BTC. Not giving you my XMR gold contact Honeypot. I was just indicating to the Normans how it is done.

[Anonymous No.5429337]

>>5429240
I bought in to XMR at a loss on paper. Bullet proof. what happens with my gains inside Monero is. None. Of. Your. fucking. Business.. What I do with my Monero gains is, once again. None. Of. Your. Fucking. Business. Thanks for bumping, though.

[Anonymous No.5429466]

>>5428903
Any service that does the same with ETH or any other coin that is actually usable?

[Anonymous No.5429545]

>>5428415
Now, Children, we will learn about Fungibility. Monero is the ONLY Fungible Coin on Planet Earth, and is the main reason it will replace Bitcoin and Grade B-Cash.

[Anonymous No.5429569]

>>5429466
Get out Communist.

[Anonymous No.5429624]

>>5429337
You still have to report your losses and you'll be fucked if you didn't start with a cash only crypto purchase if you ever make enough money to cause alarm.

[Anonymous No.5429744]

>>5429624
I am reporting my losses, and started with a cash only crypto purchase. It was a terrible loos to an offshore trader. My weapons and ammo were also stolen off a barge during shipping. It's a rough world out there.

[Anonymous No.5429844]

>>5429624
This is the secret though. stay small, under one mil. the only interest they ever have in you then is getting to the bigger fish like alphaBay.

[Anonymous No.5429889]

>>5428977
>You'll also be charged short term capital gains with a zero cost basis
And we will pay that tax, on whatever money we cash out to USD with. But I plan on never going back to the kike controlled financial system, so I would just cash out enough to make large purchases. So I would only be paying taxes on some of my wealth. Monero is more private and secure than an offshore bank account.

[Anonymous No.5429912]

I'm all in on Monero and Digital Note bro

[Anonymous No.5430144]

>>5429545
Today we will learn a new word, boys and girls. fungibility.

[Anonymous No.5430200]

>>5430144
Verge, Aeon, and all the other shitcoins fall under the clasification of "Non - Fungible", along with Bitcoin, and everything else that is not Monero.

[Anonymous No.5430297]

>>5429624
Nobody can see or know how much Monero you have currently tard.

[Anonymous No.5430777]

>>5430297
True. Doesn't address the issue that you can't cash out without paying taxes or risking tax evasion charges.

[Anonymous No.5431336]

>>5430777
Do you cash out your bank account and just walk around with everything in it?
You only need to cash out when you need to make a big purchase in USD, then you pay taxes on that. And gains aren't taxable until they are realized. So just sell ETH on normie base, and claim that you've been holding it since 2014 and are just now cashing out. With the rising price of crypto, its a completely plausaible story. And is long as you pay your taxes on what you cash out, they probaly wont audit you, because there's thousands of others that aren't pay a cent in their crypto gains. That's their priority, that's who they will be chasing. If you pay your taxes on what you cash out, you'll fly under the radar.

[Anonymous No.5431392]

>>5428876
>>>5428759
>I bet everyone here trades on Bittrex. Bittrex is a USA entity. We're all fucked.
If you are still using Bittrex, you deserve it.

[Anonymous No.5431634]

>>5431336
False. Every trade is taxable. When you trade crypto to crypto, a gain/loss is realized. However, I agree that most people will fly under the radar and only a select few will be fucked over. BTW, unless you use multiple wallets, I wouldn't lie to the IRS because ETH and BTC transactions are easily traced, especially if they lead to your Coinbase account.

[Anonymous No.5431670]

>>5428578
Not at all. You need at least (an unknown amount) to make it here, kid.

[Anonymous No.5431713]

>>5428808
>he thinks hard forks are bad

[Anonymous No.5431882]

>>5428606
Im going to need the full doc of this

[Anonymous No.5431902]

>>5431634
Yes I am aware of what the law states. But if you cash out 30k to buy a new car and you pay your capital gains on that USD like a good goy, how is the IRS going to know about the 300k you have in monero? And if they do ask questions, you just claim you have been holding if for years, not trading, and are just now realizing your gains, which is completely plausible. But they probaly wont ask questions because they have their work cut out for them going after the 15k other people who didnt pay any tax at all. IF your one of the 500 who did pay their taxes, they are gonna leave you alone.

[Anonymous No.5432045]

>>5431882
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/982821/download

[Anonymous No.5432050]

>>5431902
You'd be admitting that you haven't been paying long term capital gains for years.

[Anonymous No.5432085]

>>5428415
don't worry daddy I've been mining it instead ;)

[Anonymous No.5432115]

>>5431634
>Every trade is taxable.
The logistics of the IRS trying to enforce this, as if the billions of crypto to crypto transactions that occur every year are as easy to track as real estate trades, are impossible to manage. I expect this law to be amended within a year or two.

[Anonymous No.5432171]

>>5432045
This is the initial draft. in it, it states "Any and all Monero" It was later clarified to "an unknown amount" of Monero, as the Wallet and accounts for Monero were seized, but they had been emptied, and that was the end of the trail. "Any and all Monero" was listed so that it could be seized if ever found in later years.

[Anonymous No.5432174]

>>5432045
much obliged

[Anonymous No.5432204]

>>5428523
Nice. Just bought (an unknown amount) x (an unknown amount)

[Anonymous No.5432225]

>>5432115
Ummm. that little thing you are tappity tappitying on there? that can easily trace any Non Monero Crypto trade ever made with the right software.

[Anonymous No.5432323]

>>5432115
The IRS commissioned a company called Chainanalysis to track transactions. BUT - the IRS cant win this fight. Why? Because crypto was specifically designed to break away from The Government-Bankster Cartel.

The Obfusaction features of Anon/privacy coins arent there just to be cool features!!! They are there for a good reason. The crypto community has been preparing for the IRS, and the IRS is never going to catch up because government is inherently slow.

This is why Ive become really bullish on the Privacy coins, Monero/Verge/Cloak and their smallcap cousins. In fact, if you look at cmc these coins already experienced a rise in pricing. Nearly all of them.

Just watch out, next year we're gonna see some crazy shit. If the IRS really starts to crack down, we are gonna see the community go into overdrive with the decentralized Anon exchanges, Anon Atomic Swaps (oh yes its coming!) and the New Darknet like what Shift is doing.

This is the true purpose of crypto and why ultimately the government/USD is on borrowed time. We have a few years before the entire system collapses, its already begun.

I would only be worried if I was a big fish cashing out large amounts of money. Thankfully, I'm not, and you could probably get away with cashing out $5k ish every month. The IRS cant keep up.

[Anonymous No.5432355]

>>5432323
You are beyond retarded if you think the "government is on borrowed time" or "system collapses."

[Anonymous No.5432382]

>>5428977
I'm sorry mister taxman, someone stole my private keys

[Anonymous No.5432450]

>>5432323
Fungibility. None of these coins have fungibility. None. Only monero. the others are pump and dumps for now. In later years, the developers may give them fungibility. Only then would I buy in. Also. These coins are going light on security to increase sales processing speed, as they themselves advertise. I'll pass. I would rather have to pay taxes with BTC than get my account cleaned by hackers.

[Anonymous No.5432471]

>>5432355
You're beyond retarded if you don't. Fiat always kills empires.

They can't do shit now. Crypto is a money black hole. All the money printing in the world can't save banking kikes and government.

[Anonymous No.5432477]

>>5432355
You are beyond retarded if you think the system wont collapse.

We are on the verge of political, cultural and economic change. You need to open your mind and see the big picture. Cryptocurrency's total marketcap went up a hundredfold, if you cant see the writing on the wall, you're beyond retarded. As they say, "money talks".

Cryptocurrency by its very nature is already pseudoanonymous. The Anon coins take this shit even further, and its the core of why crypto was made. Crypto puts banking into your own hands and keeps third parties out.

The American government in particular is in huge trouble - its a skeleton system. No government lasts for over 200 years, and we are WAY PAST due. The collapse is happening before your very eyes. All you need to do is look at pol. The rise of the "Alt right" (which really isnt Right at all, its a resistance) combined with cryptocurrency heralds the beginning of the end of the evil, diabolical system that the bankter-government cartel has cast upon us.

If you are doing crypto, you are participating in the resistance. Period. End of discussion. THIS IS A RESISTANCE MOVEMENT. Whether you know it or not.

[Anonymous No.5432484]

>>5428719
just use shapeshift bro

[Anonymous No.5432486]

>>5432050
No, because you don't pay capital gains on a long term hold until you sell it and realize your gains. Its not a gain until you sell, unrealized gains are not taxable.

[Anonymous No.5432491]

>>5432045
>all this shit listed in Bangkok
How the hell can the United States Federal Government seize property and assets held by an individual overseas where they have zero jurisdiction? I don't understand

[Anonymous No.5432521]

>>5432171
which is impossible. how isn't xmr millions each is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.5432556]

>>5432355
the US is not the only exception to the 4000 year history of empires and currencies

[Anonymous No.5432575]

>>5432225
I'm talking more about the logistics of the IRS first enforcing a subpoena on Bittrex or Poloniex to give them every transaction linked to every identified customer and how it would ultimately be a massive waste of time if any of those customers then moved funds that, after all that tracing, just ended up being a brick wall because they traded for Monero or they moved funds to an offshore trading platform that the IRS would have no jurisdiction over, on say Binance or Cryptopia, and couldn't subpoena them to confirm that that wallet belonged to the person in question. Plausible deniability then comes into play and nobody is going to self-incriminate.

Not really worth the effort. The IRS is just going to go for the low hanging fruit which is obviously Coinbase and people that didn't declare capital gains taxes.

>>5432323
It could go a number of different ways but part of me wonders if the massive influx of money in 2017 isn't from the banks or the government trying to wrest control of the market.

[Anonymous No.5432717]

>>5432575
This. They are going to set up a stopgap and go after everyone who coverts crypto back to fiat. That's all they really can do. And as cryptos become more and more accepted, less people will be cashing out to fiat. Then income tax will finally be impossible to enforce, and they only tax they can collect is sales tax.

[Anonymous No.5432742]

>>5432491

The USA is a world superpower, they have jurisdiction wherever their foreign aid and troops and military bases get to.
You think that shit is all just to be "safe" ? LOL

[Anonymous No.5432755]

>>5432575
>It could go a number of different ways but part of me wonders if the massive influx of money in 2017 isn't from the banks or the government trying to wrest control of the market.

It's not. Crypto was like a bad pimple for them before 2017. Now its a problem. Pumping money into it would only make the problem worse and raise more awareness, and crypto is like a balloon. You cant force massive amounts of money into the system - it benefits people that invest small amounts.

They want this shit to go away, which is why the new tax bill was made and signed during christmas. This new tax bill wasnt an oversight on crypto, it was a deliberate attack on crypto, which is why the proposed changes to make things easier (there is a senator that proposed changes to make rax reporting for crypto easier) never made it through into the final cut. I wonder why? Because its an attack.

Anything that is signed during christmas time that has financial repercussions is NEVER GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE. NEVER. This is how they do it folks. They do it during christmas time. They instituted the federal reserve during christmas, they removed the gold standard during xmas, the NDAA was during xmas....list goes on. They always do it during this time because they figure no one is paying attention and no one will care.

[Anonymous No.5432780]

>>5432491
Co operation of The Government of Thailand. Total failure of Spook Craft 101 on the part of The Accused.

[Anonymous No.5432824]

>>5428415

[Anonymous No.5432833]

>>5432471
>Fiat always kills empires.
why do you say this?

[Anonymous No.5432853]

>>5432833
Because every empire that instituted fiat currency has collapsed. Every single one.

[Anonymous No.5432953]

>>5428415

[Anonymous No.5432954]

>>5428415
I can't wait to get around stupid fucking taxes, all people have to do is legitimately adopt a coin as currency for trade and the whole fiat banker scam crumbles.

[Anonymous No.5432994]

>>5428415
Monero partnering with Digital Bitbox.

[Anonymous No.5433026]

>>5432477
t. personality disorder

[Anonymous No.5433066]

>>5433026
>stupid reply to a well thought out post

Never change biz

[Anonymous No.5433070]

>>5432755
The traditional goverment/corporate/military complex is in between a rock and a hard place.

They're too slow and invested in the current international fiat system to switch to crypto, so they have no choice but to fight it. However, the more restrictions and limitations they put on it, the more crypto will become ingrained into the economy. The reasons are complex, I'll try to outline them below by listing the system's options and their consequences. Keep in mind though, the old system is so slow that they might not even be able to take these options in time for them to even have any effect. EX: Goldman Sach's declares they are going to start a bitcoin trading desk, but it won't be in operation until June 2018...

>Increase taxes on crypto and make paying taxes on crypto more difficult.
The more taxes and the more difficult it is to pay taxes on crypto, the more appealing privacy coins become. People will move from transparent coins which are relatively easy for the goverments and corporations to manage to ones that are invisible.
>Make it more difficult to go from Crypto<->Fiat.
This will shoot up the value of crypto, similar to how drug prices go up when they are made illegal. Meanwhile, people who are rich in crypto become a huge market for anyone who accepts services in crypto. This causes mass merchant adoption, the merchants who don't adopt lose a giant share of the market.
>Banking system attack, buy up the market/financialize crypto in USD/use trading algos on crypto
Cryptocurrency is not like traditional stocks, so banks are at a disadvantage trying trade crypto. Meanwhile the primary exchanges are all unregulated and the financial system cannot touch them. Thus they try to create financial products, like recently with the futures. Problem is, the futures determine their prices based on exchanges, which are manipulated by massive bitcoin whales. The banks cannot beat the whales without buying crypto, which merely enriches the whales.

[Anonymous No.5433074]

>>5432994
Plausible Deniability. give them the wrong password. and it automatically creates and opens an empty wallet. Monero will be The One. There can Only Be One. It will be, quite literally, The Sole Survivor of The Crypto Apocolypse.

[Anonymous No.5433252]

>>5428415

[Anonymous No.5433284]

>>5428415
Hey Everyone

Just wanted to say a very Merry Christmas from the guys at Monerujo we have made some cool customizable NSFW (swearing) and SFW Christmas cards featuring our little guy Gunther. you can use Monerujo or https://moneroaddress.org/ to create a new wallet, transfer some sneaky Christmas money onto that wallet, then just write the seed words down on the Christmas card, and the receiver can restore from the wallet from the Seed in Monerujo!

https://imgur.com/a/eRWkH

Cheers from the team -m2049r -anhdres -rehrar -baltsar777 -EarlOfEgo -KeeJef

[Anonymous No.5433349]

>>5433252
HOLY SHIT! TRUE IF BIG! JUST BOUGHT ANOTHER ( UNKNOWN AMOUNT )!

[Anonymous No.5433480]

>>5428719
ill be eating sauerkraut in belarus at that point

[Anonymous No.5433626]

>>5433070
>>5433070
I agree. They are kind of fucked, the collapse is already happening, its like a slow motion train wreck. Combine the economic collapse with the social, political and cultural collapse and the American Zionist Empire is in freefall.

Ultimately, the more regulation they do, its basically as Leia says to Tarkin: "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers"

They are in a Catch-22 and the system is fucked. The funny thing is, even if they did away with fiat and adapted to crypto, they are so slow and inefficient that by the time they do adapt, income tax will be a thing of the past. And good riddance, because income tax is actually unconstitutional and was never intended to be apart of our society. At all. Income tax is evil.

In fact heres a little secret: all taxes are pointless in the current system. You say they pay for roads. Guess what, they dont because the government is $20,000,000,000,000 in debt. The entire government is in debt! It's all based around credit. Taxes go to a black hole. They dont pay for anything because all money is instantly vaporized due to the debt based system of our government. ITS A SCAM!

[Anonymous No.5433654]

>>5433480
ICO's 5 years tax free in Belarus.

[Anonymous No.5433701]

>>5433626
Monero is The Resistance. Fluffy Pony is The Last Jedi.

[Anonymous No.5434206]

>>5433070
>Make it more difficult to go from Crypto<->Fiat
>This will shoot up the value of crypto
What? No. In the short term, this would create a massive fiat value loss in the entire market. I agree with the sentiment of the rest of what you said but definitely not this.

[Anonymous No.5434259]

>>5434206
We pumping, Boyos.

[Anonymous No.5434277]

>>5434259
Here we go.

[Anonymous No.5434443]

Does anyone know what the American tax system on crypto will be like?

[Anonymous No.5434500]

>>5428606
I've seen this so many times, I'm starting to suspect that it's a fucking trap at this point. With a hole that obvious, you'd think the government would use it as some sort of honey pot to catch tax evaders, by making them think they're safe in that coin.

[Anonymous No.5434522]

>>5428415

Monero is junk, ancient old piece of shit. slow and high fees

[Anonymous No.5434683]

>>5434522
Virgin

[Anonymous No.5434852]

>>5434522

[Anonymous No.5434915]

>>5433252

Tremendous if not fake news.

[Anonymous No.5434961]

>>5434522

[Anonymous No.5434995]

>>5434852
>>5434961
DELET THIS NOW

[Anonymous No.5435043]

>>5434522
Monero is going Bullet proof. Fees will soon be reduced by 80%.

[Anonymous No.5435098]

>>5432755
>>5433070
Underrated toasts
If more Crypto start adopting anonymity measures and we throw away the old ones that have publicly available ledgers, except for niche coins used in certain businesses, the tax collectors and banks will go from having little control to virtually none.

[Anonymous No.5435686]

>>5432323

oh for fucks sake, just pay your fucking taxes. they're a lot smarter than you think and they will make an extreme example of several thousand people in 2018-2019.

[Anonymous No.5435736]

>>5432575
wrong. you can go to jail for simply failing to disclose an offshore account. they don't need to trace shit.

[Anonymous No.5435861]

The only way I can see this working is through a decentralized exchange. The ones I have tried so far are shit.
I have messed around with Bisq, and EtherDelta.
Are there others that are decent? Any on the horizon?

[Anonymous No.5435906]

>>5435686
>t. Happy Merchant

[Anonymous No.5435927]

>>5435686
Its not an offshore bank account tho, its internet meme money, it just happens to be completely decentralized and untraceable. Am I supposed to disclose how much WoW gold I have too? This shit is going to be impossible for the IRS to regulate. And instead of missing out on trillions of dollars in tax rev, they are going to switch to a system they can actually enforce and raise sales taxes

[Anonymous No.5435932]

>>5435686
*quietly cleans weapon* I pay 40 % of my wagecuck job every year on taxes. Leave my crypto alone. *sharpens bayonet.*

[Anonymous No.5436124]

>>5428415
hide from the tax man

[Anonymous No.5436144]

>>5435932
I'm getting the idea you've been Taxed Enoigh Already, Anon.

[Anonymous No.5436545]

>>5435861
They're brand new concepts, give it time for them to mature.
>>5435927
income tax should be illegal, I'd be fine with a sales tax on goods to maintain muh roads.

[Anonymous No.5436633]

>>5436545
Income tax IS illegal.

[Anonymous No.5436699]

[Anonymous No.5436798]

>>5436699
Die Taxmaster.

[Anonymous No.5436824]

>>5436699
Nucyaler ahniuhlayshun.

[Anonymous No.5436882]

>>5436699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIMrFpnfvyI

[Anonymous No.5437075]

>>5435686
>they're a lot smarter than you think
No, they arent. like what was saidin this thread, they are 8 years too late and we all know a year is an eternity in crypto.

By the time they can analyze the exposed blockchains, people are gonna be on the decentralized exchanges, there will be no records of trades. Crypto-to-crypto taxes are the boogieman and will never manifest.

Why do you think Blocknet, Bitshares etc exist? They arent money making schemes, just like Ofuscation, Darksend etc arent just cool features. Crypto was specifically made as a karmic backlash to the illegal and downright evil IRS.

Even shitcoins that are below $1million marketcap plan to implement zerocoin protocol. With Atomic swaps. Anonymous atomic swaps.

The IRS is finished come 2019. They are a dead man walking right now. All they can do is put a stopgap at the crypto to fiat conversions, but they will never get their double tax like they want so badly.

[Anonymous No.5437262]

>>5435043
I understand there are some Monero fanatics on biz. But for the people reading, there are coins that are just as good as Monero and they are all fungible.

Zerocoin protocol coins are gonna be big next year. Cloakcoin might be even more superior than Monero because it doesnt just rely on ring signature algos, Enigma takes shit to the next level.

Regardless, the privacy and anon coins are gonna take center stage next year. They will be the obvious choice if the government decides to go full 1984. Either way they lose.

[Anonymous No.5437389]

>>5432115
Doesn't realize they are billions of trades made on stock market and tracked.

[Anonymous No.5437695]

>>5437389
the problem is that the stock market is not cryptographically encrypted and is made to comply with the government.

You can bet your balls that Blocknet and the other future decentralized exchanges arent gonna give a flying fuck about the IRS and government regulations.

Combine decentralized exchanges with anon privacy coins and the irs is fucked

[Anonymous No.5437983]

>>5437075
This Anon is correct. By the time they figure it out, all crypto money will have flown in to monero.

[Anonymous No.5438063]

>>5437262
There is no other Crypto besides Monero fungible in the way the term is applied to monero. Fungible as in you can trade them for like kind Crypto? Yeah, every coin has that. nice try. No. Other. Coin. Has. Monero. fungibility. The Fungibility spoken of exists only within the Monero Leger, therfore no other coin can have said fungibility. Jesus Christ, you fucking shitcoin shillers are dealing with a MENSA here, give it up for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.5438179]

>>5428415
$307 to 4320 in a few minutes. We're going live.

[Anonymous No.5438216]

Who cares
I just use coinbase to cash out and everythings always fine lads

[Anonymous No.5438239]

>>5438179
$320* Getting a couple of months in to the future there. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.5439189]

>>5438239
Lamboland here we come. Kek.

[Anonymous No.5439357]

I was doing some research about the recent high transaction fees and realized Monero only scales if actual usage increases. Not if just the USD price increases.

If it moons with just pure speculation, it's going to become useless for actual transactions. Even with the 80% bulletproof reduction, the price went up 30 times this year, if it does anything like that again 80% is not going to mean a thing.

I'm saying this because it can be prevented if people avoid being stupid. If the price is going vertical and transaction volume is staying the same, don't buy, you would be shooting yourself in the foot. Buy into slow steady gains only.

Read this shit: https://getmonero.org/2017/12/11/A-note-on-fees.html

[Anonymous No.5439533]

I have (an unknown amount) of monero and (an unknown fraction) in it's derivatives. Did I do good? All of it was mined rather than purchased.

[Anonymous No.5439911]

>>5439357
Monero is actually a superior store of value to bitcoin bc its a store of value that is invisible.

People are willing to pay fees to have a private Swiss bank account.

[Anonymous No.5440085]

>>5439357
This is why if you go on Monero Bittrex, you will see there is a 133 and change coin sell wall and buy wall attempting to control the price. Demand is increasing so greatly that it is being over run this evening. this will continue until Monero achieved its actual value as a coin. Given the Government crackdown on crypto. that value has suddenly shot to 100K per coin. This is way overdue for a moonshot that will leave early buyers shoes and socks on the sidewalk.

[Anonymous No.5440119]

>>5439911
Checked. Crypto 911 incoming. See >>5433074

[Anonymous No.5440311]

>>5439911
Checked.

[Anonymous No.5440491]

>>5440311
Checked. (you) Chekin' 911 with reverse 911. spoopy.

[Anonymous No.5440548]

>>5428977
but i lost all of my private keys in a tragic boating accident

[Anonymous No.5440614]

>>5440085
At 100k a coin, if transaction volume remains similar, you're looking at 3k fees per transaction. That means no darknet adoption. No regular people using it at all, only millionaires and billionaires hiding money. Exchanges to fiat infrequent and large, and therefore the task of monitoring and controlling such exchanges for the government becomes very doable. Defeating the only remaining purpose entirely.

We can get to 100k per Monero without ruining it. You can do what you want, but if we get 20-50 dollar median fees that stick around for any length of time I'm bailing.

[Anonymous No.5440631]

>>5440548
See>>5432994
With bitbox, you just give someone a wrong password, and it automatically hides your real wallet, creates another empty wallet, and shows only that. Monero is partnering with them.

[Anonymous No.5440635]

>>5433070
>>5432323


Im interested in ur anons opiniosn anyone chime in! I havent claimed ANY crypto since 2015 and when i do cash out it is all smaller than 500 bucks from coinbase to paypal then a shitty college account i have had since 2012. This account sees a max of 40k a year i have a friend who put me under his busness and we file that im part time making 25k. Never reprted and never been audited most red flags are checks from people like 1k 5k sometimes but thats it. What are my chances this year? im under 20k sells for the entire year on cuckbase nearly 11k. Anons i know i sound like a fucking cuck but i want my asshole to stay tight and i wana keep making money hitting buttons

[Anonymous No.5440680]

>>5440614
At that point. it replaces Bitcoin, AND physical gold as a store of value. At that point, what does it really matter. (sorry Hilldawgs)

[Anonymous No.5440869]

>>5440680
If you don't have the effective anonymity aspect, and it costs more to move than it costs to physically ship gold around the world, why would it be replacing anything?

[Anonymous No.5440881]

>>5440635
The little feather game only goes for a max of 3 years. You should probably start buying monero, then cashing out to gold.

[Anonymous No.5440954]

>>5440869
What? You , a ,imbibing a lil' Holiday spirits? Kek. This is the ONLY coin that has anonymity. AND it is far cheaper to ship a bitbox than it is 100K in gold with associated armed guards and such. H- hello?

[Anonymous No.5441417]

>>5428415
FYI; 12 months ago, the monero sub r was 7k. Two days ago, it hit 70K registered, in 12 months, it will be 700K Monero 10x incoming.

[Anonymous No.5441434]

>>5440954
>>5440881
>>5440680
Ahh yes, Monero maximalists.

There is not going to be one single crypto to rule them all, sorry.

There are tons of cryptos out there you may not even heard of, that can compete with Monero on a technical level (like Cloak)

But at the end of the day we're all on the same side k? We all want to see the IRS an the Banksters burn

[Anonymous No.5441446]

>>5441417
Uh, scratch that. the sub just went up another 5 k in the 2 days since Trump signed the tax bill. Ho -lee - fuck.

[Anonymous No.5441462]

>>5441446
Checked. True if big, and that is godam BIG.

[Anonymous No.5441593]

>>5441434
Cloak website doesn't even work. What's up with that.

[Anonymous No.5441771]

>>5441434
Ummm, yeah, if you wanna spend some change at Cryptoside online Casino, cloak coin is great. But if you wanna spend funds anywhere else, you gotta switch over to Monero. Why not buy Monero from the getgo?

[Anonymous No.5441826]

my bch transaction is taking forever to confirm. i just wanna turn them into xmr.

[Anonymous No.5441949]

>>5428415
Main sellwall on Monero just dropped back to $350.

[Anonymous No.5441978]

>>5441826
Good luck m8. $300,000 buywall incoming.

[Anonymous No.5442084]

>>5441826
BCH WONT LET ME OUT EITHER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.5442267]

>>5442084
NOOOOOOOOOO STOP GOING UUUUPPPP MOOOOOOMMY WHYYYYYYYYYYY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP

[Anonymous No.5442328]

Got my monero!

[Anonymous No.5442358]

>>5442328
Now put them shits in a paper wallet and chill.

[Anonymous No.5442388]

>>5441826
>>5442084
I don't suppose anyone else sees the irony here.

[Anonymous No.5442446]

>>5442328
S-still waiting. How long did it take?

[Anonymous No.5442806]

>>5442446
Did you get your monero, Anon?.

[Anonymous No.5442835]

>>5442806
What exchange are you trying to get out of BCH on?

[Anonymous No.5442878]

Zcoin is better

[Anonymous No.5443021]

>>5442878
The developers themselves have lost track of how many coins are actually in existence. The fuck outa here with that trash. Actually laughing.

[Anonymous No.5443466]

>>5440614
Yea the Monero fees need to get fixed, the stupid bullshit algorithm clearly will not work with such a limited supply and a lot of people just wanting to hide their wealth not actually use the network. They need a better algorithm for real

[Anonymous No.5443527]

>>5443466
The algorithm can't use price as a variable. There is no way for the Monero network to reliably obtain price information. It already scales dynamically with volume which is all that can be done without regular hard forks.

[Anonymous No.5443984]

>>5428415
other coins already do the things monero can do that aren't known as CP coins

[Anonymous No.5444023]

>>5443984
nice examples you got there

[Anonymous No.5444127]

>>5443527
We are all working very hard on it.
Bittrex.com a40224d400824adf822dce55739519f9… 3313.44
4JUdGzvrMFDWrUUwY3toJATSeNwjn54LkCnKBPRzDu… 2008.27
Bittrex.com 69c39e8832404f87928b810128366423… 1384.08
Bittrex.com 8034f4bb15bb4540b14b6e16338f953c… 922.08
48g9HasiKqS36AW747dr9AW6U3QjiovSfHomazZjk3… 603.21
41nQsgi8TwKEVmfs6cgaxf5vVFa6Fmj4fdH3wLj4UQ… 452.38
Bittrex.com 180c3792be9745dca8b8e63e46f5490d… 341.79
Bittrex.com 354865bcd6314a44a3c60952b32d716f… 257.87
43q8kQZhSvvRFjxCU1347vJ2pNvJQ95ghX4mSWHV5h… 227.51
48gdMco8qi2id4dFLKwNTuHKEeN3XpxoW84jtZydQs… 223.21
44tLjmXrQNrWJ5NBsEj2R77ZBEgDa3fEe9GLpSf2FR… 186.22
47mr7jYTroxQMwdKoPQuJoc9Vs9S9qCUAL6Ek4qyNF… 127.73
42KMA31hjPthvRyMw69cE337bC2y9qjF3LE69wL11t… 122.50
437Z31UsvY8GM5AcAkPk2e9S56hbSMEU1K225AV2eo… 122.21
47Ww8XzPmzg51sRRGRphYJefwV8D5WneEcGbqpuW3p… 111.94
43XyJQ9nuZw4GLe22wNw7J9bzr2sNZVns9TZajtvdn… 102.68
41sci114vcjjHiRniFo5nSfHCc84WaQSBYwbqX65ER… 101.13
4AT3AgrJEy12ZKhza4DBccftBYcAHyADPQ3YQbGw7L… 78.11
Bittrex.com e970f2bf213c4264840c1235b3cd33f2… 74.04
45nNBK7mVwdJPAsotXsyM39Xs2JDmwktfQnmTQNfx3… 71.42

[Anonymous No.5444231]

>>5443984
(Your) is a CP coin, tard. when the U'S. Gov. passes a law saying coins passing through those hands get black listed (you) are going to be the one getting, ah fucked, not the kiddies, and not Monero holders. What is Monero fungibility, Alex, for the daily double, and the Championship Win.

[Anonymous No.5444421]

>>5435736
>you can go to jail for simply failing to disclose an offshore account.
"Yes hello IRS, I see that I am being audited for undisclosed "gains" on my crypto to crypto trading but I've lost all of my funds in bad trades on Binance.com and have no earnings to report."

Welp, that was easy.

[Anonymous No.5444476]

>>5443466
>>5443527
At this price level xmr is not really usable as a currency. People need to be able to buy $billions worth of monero on a daily basis without moving the price, and that will require a much much higher market cap and trading volume.

The price is a result of the required market cap. The market cap reflects the necessary money supply of the currency to meet the demand side. For which, these are the parameters: 1/ How much is stored in monero 2/ how much is being transacted 3/ velocity of money (how often is the same currency reused in a given time). The first two increases, the third one decreases the necessary money supply for the currency.

As you said, price stability increases the value of the currency, but for that it is a prerequisite to have high volume and high market cap. So a price increase at this moment strengthens the future value of xmr.

This is a chicken and egg problem. As a result, the first real users will be the "store of value"/"digital gold" type of users, who will not really mind the price increase. This early stage is inevitable to eventually make it more and more usable as a transacting currency. And later on when the transaction volume multiplies (in which speculators make a huge role) then we can slowly start to use it as a real currency.

[Anonymous No.5444514]

>>5443021
>>5443466
So, that being said, what is (your) estimation of what the Market cap would need to be to make this a viable currency with the necessary velocity capacity?

[Anonymous No.5444643]

>>5444514
Checked. Now, whatever the needed cap, divide that by the number of coins and you have- HOLY SHIT GOING TO BUY ANOTHER ( UNKNOWN AMOUNT)!

[Anonymous No.5444653]

>>5444476
How would transaction volume multiply with extremely high fees? Even if a lot of people want to use it, they would be sure to make their transactions as infrequent as possible. And it would be unusable for many use cases, such as making purchases of any kind.

It needs to be the other way around. Volume and price have to grow together. That way fees won't become prohibitive even at high prices.

[Anonymous No.5444666]

>>5428808
Sumo to moon

[Anonymous No.5444712]

>>5444653
Fees will reduce by 80% in a few days, allowing for a pretty quick 80% rise in price.

[Anonymous No.5444817]

>>5444666
Nice try, Satan.

[Anonymous No.5444833]

>>5444712
Pretty sure bulletproofs scheduled for March. If the price doubles by then I'm not too worried. I'll be worried if it hits like $2000 though.

[Anonymous No.5444843]

>>5444666
Satanic trips for sumo is quite appropriate. There is a some pretty scammy red flags going off with this one
There are some quirks for sumokoin mining not so evident on mining monero. Time to time there's some strange peaks on nethash that can make predicting profitability bit difficult on long run. There's couple mentions of botnets on bitcointalk, also couple articles I could find suggesting said networks took advantage of slow difficulty adaption protocol had before, which is now fixed. Still the same peaks exists even though the protocol flaw cannot be taken advantage anymore.
Way it worked was they started mining on low difficulty multiplying the nethash for as long as difficulty adapted and then stopped

[Anonymous No.5444872]

>>5444833
Gonna have some beta going in a few days.

[Anonymous No.5445351]

>>5428415
Info for those who got sucked in to the /signals/ verge pump and dump. I have their physical in New Hampshire if anyone is interested. For Academic Purposes.

[Anonymous No.5445373]

>>5445351

[Anonymous No.5445617]

I had a thought about this. I live in a country with no capital gains tax. What if I set up a cash out service: You send me your crypto, I sell and then make an international wire transfer to you. When the taxman comes knocking you say you 'lost' your crypto but are happy to pay taxes on this gift from a foreign extended relative, which should be much less than capital gains tax. Ignoring the trust and scam angle for now, how feasible would you guys say this is? Any pitfalls you could think of?

[Anonymous No.5445717]

>>5445617
I think there is a limit on how much you can claim is a non-taxable gift, like $14000. But for amounts under that, it could be viable assuming the scam/trust angle gets taken care of.

[Anonymous No.5445810]

>>5428415
Just thought I would share this little gem here from another thread

[Anonymous No.5446364]

Can someone help me understand why a fork of monero like aeon would even be good? What do hard forks even provide that's so valuable that warrants the creation of a new blockchain? They couldn't agree on protocols or some other policy that they needed to make their own system that badly? Why stray from the top dog?

Sorry if this sounds retarded I'm just trying to understand.

[Anonymous No.5446638]

>>5445717
It's 10,000 in the U.S

[Anonymous No.5446640]

>>5446364
Aeon takes the advanced Monero design, and hacks and chops it down to fit on a cellphone. Thats about it. It is the same as taking A 50,000 GVW truck designed to haul 30,000 pounds, and hacking enough metal off of it to haul the same load on a smaller road with thinner paving. Yup. Not safe. Not safe at all.

[Anonymous No.5446744]

>>5430144
Someone explain how this is possible? The second it gets thrown in an exchange wallet it gets mixed.

[Anonymous No.5446828]

>>5446638
>non-taxable gift
It's $14,000, right on the IRS website. $15,000 in 2018.

[Anonymous No.5446856]

>>5446640

That sounds like Aeon shouldn't even matter then given that Monero will be cutting fat to make itself way more efficient and lightweight in the next quarter. Da fuck?

[Anonymous No.5446900]

>>5428415
so this will moon like a fuck when people start doing taxes: buy before jan. 1, sell before apr. 15?

[Anonymous No.5447000]

>>5446744
Anon, I -
the coin history is still traceable, no matter how many times it gets "mixed in and out of wallets, or any other container. they can be traced from the time of inception.. This is true for all coins but monero.
Fungibility is a trait of a good or commodity with interchangeable individual units. For example, one ounce of pure gold is equivalent to any other ounce of pure gold. It does not matter in which “form” these ounces are traded. A bar of pure gold is the same as freshly minted pure gold or an ingot of pure gold. Currencies, as one would expect, are fungible as well, as it allows them to function in the real world on a global scale.

It is important to note fungibility and liquidity are not the same by any means. Liquid goods or commodities can be exchanged for money or other different goods. Fungible assets or goods, however, require one unit of the asset to be substantially equivalent to another unit of the same asset of the same quality. To put this into simpler terms; a 10 EUR bill is fungible, as it can be interchanged for another 10 EUR bill, two 5 EUR bills, and so on.

Bitcoin is proving to be a very different creature in this regard. It is not fungible in the traditional sense, although there are some caveats. Individual units of bitcoin have the same size. One bitcoin is as valuable as one bitcoin, and one Satoshi is as valuable as another Satoshi. However, bitcoins leave a trace on the blockchain. So-called “clean bitcoins” are worth slightly more than any other coin on the network, as they have no history linking ownership of the coins to that specific wallet address. Some people are willing to pay extra for “clean coins” by using mixing services.

[Anonymous No.5447006]

>>5446828
i have no problem living on 15k a year

[Anonymous No.5447024]

>>5447000
Bitcoin is proving to be a very different creature in this regard. It is not fungible in the traditional sense, although there are some caveats. Individual units of bitcoin have the same size. One bitcoin is as valuable as one bitcoin, and one Satoshi is as valuable as another Satoshi. However, bitcoins leave a trace on the blockchain. So-called “clean bitcoins” are worth slightly more than any other coin on the network, as they have no history linking ownership of the coins to that specific wallet address. Some people are willing to pay extra for “clean coins” by using mixing services.

Moreover, bitcoin service providers, such as exchanges, can blacklist specific bitcoin wallet addresses. Any coins transferred to and from these addresses are worth less, due to their blacklisted status. The same principle applies to fiat currencies, though. Tracing and monitoring of any currency or asset makes it less than fully fungible. Keeping this knowledge in mind, it is crystal clear bitcoin is not anonymous, nor was it ever intended to be used as such.

To make bitcoin succeed as a global payment network, fungibility needs to be ensured at all times. So far, this process has been quite challenging. Just last year, blockchain forensics service provider Elliptic raised money to identify bitcoin transactions. Coinbase, on the other hand, has become extremely strict regarding the acceptance of coins with a murky history. While companies and merchants are not necessarily using third-party blacklist services before accepting bitcoins, it is evident there is a lot of work to be done before bitcoin can be fungible

[Anonymous No.5447086]

>>5428415
>proof-of-work
When the dust settles we will be lucky if ANY proof-of-work coins remain.

Bitcoin alone already uses more electricity than most countries and it does not come close to handling the amount of money needed to be taken seriously by wall street.

Monero is another shit coin. If there is a privacy coin based on ethereum/iota/burst let me know.

[Anonymous No.5447198]

>buy a shit load of monero
>slowly cash out in high quality narcotics and lifetime porn subscriptions from Zion or some other marketplace
>sell drugs (easy 5-10x margins with DN prices)
>Enjoy massive gains, a decent supply of black tar heroin and never pay taxes
Also got some druggy teenagers buying chunks with cash for this exact same purpose.
Feels good to have a plan but my fucking daemon won't connect.

[Anonymous No.5447247]

>>5431392
What should you be using?

[Anonymous No.5447445]

>>5445617
Capital gains is 0/12/20 based on income, it's really not that bad

[Anonymous No.5447491]

>>5447198
Slower than shit and using up all my bandwidth.

[Anonymous No.5447553]

>>5447086
Back to your Marxist Communist echo chamber, please.

[Anonymous No.5447619]

>>5447086
>ethereum/iota/burst
simply lol

[Anonymous No.5447677]

>>5447247
Binance. 1/5th the fees plus based out of chinkland with no verification necessary for 2btc per day withdrawal limit. Use my code! 10056688

[Anonymous No.5447750]

>>5433026
>doesn't like to think that he's complicit in the downfall of the worldwide financial system

but you are

[Anonymous No.5448361]

>>5447677
just registered to binance with your code anon, cheers

[Anonymous No.5448741]

>>5447491
Wish I could get it to even start syncing

[Anonymous No.5449219]

It is fitting to realize on Christmas day that buttcoin, being 100% traceable, is the crypto put forward by those who follow the screenplay in aiming for a cashless society, whereas privacy coins seem more and more likely to be the catalyst we've been waiting for.

[Anonymous No.5449292]

>>5428606
Lmao line 25 says "Moreno" nice try faggot

[Anonymous No.5449784]

>>5449292
Saw that. I did not put much stock in it. I have been involved in many cases over 40 years, including a case which was won against a State Government in The Supreme Court.. Typos are common. If (you) are insinuating that (I) generated the document, perhaps you should do some soul searching while staring in the mirror, and ask yourself, why would (I) expect this of my fellow being. Is it because that is what (I) would do?

[Anonymous No.5449896]

>>5449292
Ummm, chill Brah. We Moonin' ' s all good.

[Anonymous No.5450267]

>>5449896
800? or more?

[Anonymous No.5450289]

>>5449896
Fuck i just hope BTC doesnt just randomly fuck everything up

[Anonymous No.5450396]

>>5450289
Btc is coasting on a bot on a slow incline for now.

[Anonymous No.5450431]

>>5450396
Shit, so we are seeing 10k bitcoin soon?

[Anonymous No.5450533]

>>5450267
Depend on what those in control of the price think is healthy growth. There is enough demand where it could be $800 before New Year. Do I think that would be healthy sustainable growth?
No $535 and a pullback to $493 just after new year would be healthy. Then a move toward $800 during the spring would be great. Pump and dumps are not healthy for any coin. It leaves them dead for 3 to 6 months, sometimes 8.

[Anonymous No.5450577]

>>5450533
ok, i'm still stucking with my MANA bag anyway

[Anonymous No.5450657]

>>5432853
Samt thing with human sacrifices and cheese-making.

[Anonymous No.5450664]

>>5450431
Welp, I have mostly been watching Binance for an indication of where we are going. the buying Algorithms controlling the buy pressure on BTC and Monero look exactly the same. We are currently broken out of a wedge on both. The double bottom on Monero on 12 / 22 was heavy and very pronounced. Signaling a pretty heavy upward trend. I have a feeling the end of year chaff has been winnowed. There is, however, a cautionary pattern saying there may be one more winnowing of the chaff before the real move up. Disclaimer. I bought back in to Monero at $334, and am staying the course, rise or fall.

[Anonymous No.5450698]

>>5450577
You should do ok there. I see Decentraland going places and becoming very popular. I just see that as a further off gain, and Monero as an immediate gain after the passage of the tax bill.

[Anonymous No.5450724]

>>5450698
Honest question: Can we trust Trump?

[Anonymous No.5450804]

>>5450664
Wow. It's late. Correction; I have been watching Bithumb for indications of where we are going. The Algorithms on Bittrex for BTC and monero look exactly the same. They are quite different on bithumb.

[Anonymous No.5450860]

>>5450804
How do you know that there is a bot controlling the price?

[Anonymous No.5450961]

>>5450724
Hmmmm. Loaded question.Trump has a very high IQ. I will never forget the look on his face after he received "The Lowdown" They always go in one person. That person dies in there, and another one comes out.. They will never be that previous person again. Ever. The Burden of knowledge. Moving on. Trump has been given an agenda, part of which he already had. That agenda involves re industrializing the U.S. We have lain fallow the requisite time. We will now cut through the red tape of regulation and begin once again producing durable goods.. Mines. Factories. Oil fields. True wealth will return.. We need brawn, brains, and tech. these can not be had while said talent sits in a basement trading crypto. there is a place for crypto, but it has moved on. It has become the venue of big money. Private small trading will be discouraged in the future. The Wild Wild west will continue for three and a half years now. make hay while the Sun Shines on Crypto, but i suggest you get a degree and or learn a trade in the interim, and sock away those crypto gains.

[Anonymous No.5450969]

>>5450724
How about FUCK DRUMPF.

NO DRUMPF! NO WALL! NO USA AT ALL!

[Anonymous No.5451008]

>>5450860
There is a 133 and change wall on Monero on Bittrex. when the programmer making the offsets on the algo makes an input, you can see the reaction. when the price needs to be suppressed to control to much buy pressure, it will be a sell. when the price needs to be held up during a panic, it will be a buy.

[Anonymous No.5451052]

>mfw taxman can’t take shit from me because all my savings are in XMR

feels fucking good lads

The jews are scared as fuck

[Anonymous No.5451080]

>>5450961
>>5451008
Thanks

[Anonymous No.5451140]

>>5450969
Anon, I -
No Borders, no doors. Leave your light on and you front doors open at night to signify your support for Open Borders! Yeah, no. Get. The. Fuck. Out.

[Anonymous No.5451366]

>being american

[Anonymous No.5451930]

>>5428876
not after december 31st im not