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54228421 No.54228421 [Reply] [Original]

So during the pandemic we saw numerous US cities grow exceptionally fast:
>phoenix
>austin
>seattle
>miami
>basically all of florida
>nashville
>dallas
But these are basically all played out. Theyre all unaffordable now.

What’s the next city? I graduated college during the pandemic so I want to set myself up when the next one starts growing

>> No.54228441

>>54228421
Fuck off we're full.

>> No.54228463

>>54228421
The real red pill is using financial gains to buy up all the property in a small abandoned town and become defacto mayor

>> No.54228523

>>54228421
East St. Louis

>> No.54228573

>>54228421
Prolly like Denver or some shit

>> No.54228585

>>54228573
No, we're played out. It's gonna get bad. Come back for the next round in 2033

t. Denver

>> No.54228597

>>54228421
It's actually Raleigh, but you missed the boat here already, too.

>> No.54228605

>>54228421
Salt Lake City

>> No.54228607

>>54228421
These cities are all such fucking shitholes. Imagine FOMOing hundreds of thousands of dollars to live in these sprawled out hellscapes in a house made of cardboard. Holy fuck, Americans are so retarded.

>> No.54228620
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54228620

>>54228421
Galveston Texas

>> No.54228729

>>54228620
This is what Americans like to imagine themselves as when they buy their cardboard box in a shithole hole in Southern California or on the Gulf Coast of Texas.

>> No.54228742

>>54228729
trust me. no american imagines this in whatever they buy

>> No.54228843

>>54228421
>US city
Try China

>> No.54228869

>>54228843
No thank you.

>> No.54228897

>>54228421
Miami and Dallas are nowhere near done growing.

>> No.54228905

Hm I wonder what all of them has in common

compared to say houston, NY and Chicago

>> No.54228927
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54228927

Here's an interesting take. A city with:

>cheap talent (relative to the coasts)
>dense, walkable neighborhoods (the ones hipsters love to gentrify)
>ample fresh water - this will be important soon
>will actually BENEFIT from climate change
>has the most diversified economy of any major city, so not susceptible to bubbles (re: san francisco)
>6 multibillion-dollar developments currently in progress
>literally hundreds of ACRES of urban land ready to be redeveloped (still years out, but possible)

I'll tell you, and you're not going to like the answer. It's Chicago.

This is where it gets interesting though:
>south and west sides (where all of the crime is) are losing population very quickly, literally emptying out
>white + young professional population is EXPLODING (highest increase in 100k+ renting households in the entire country) in the last 10 years
>avg income across the city is increasing rapidly
>those high-income renters are going to need homes in the coming years

The development will come. I may be early on this pick here, but I am absolutely not wrong. America's shift, especially among young people, toward a denser urban environment as their preferred way of living bodes exceptionally well for long-mocked Chicago.

Watch sentiment on the city over the next 10 years. Crime will subside as population shifts and the next mayor beefs up the police force.

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>>54228927
>south and west sides (where all of the crime is) are losing population very quickly, literally emptying out
source

>> No.54228979

Boise

>> No.54229058

>>54228742
Have you seen the tacky Med architecture in Southern California or in Florida? They absolutely do LARP like this.

>> No.54229083

>>54228927
Chicago is a great city at least when I visited in the summer. If the mayor can make sure crime is punished effectively while the city grows, it will stay a great city. A lot of cities were unable to do that, though.

>> No.54229097

>>54228421
I can't grasp the mind of the average cityfag to make a prediction, but find a place that's conservative with a lot of public land and decent internet and you'll be enjoying life too much to care about your property value.

The more trump flags and muddy pickups the better, they scare off the retards

>> No.54229139

>>54228927
Michigan Ave and the Loop is absolutely dead these days. Until they revitalize their downtown areas and get rid of WFH its as dead, actually even more dead, as New York City.

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>>54228421
Probably a city in El Salvador

>> No.54229235

>>54229139
I work in the loop three days per week (usually) and can confirm the opposite. Plus it's the fastest growing downtown in the country right now.

https://www.costar.com/article/10991699/thousands-moved-to-chicagos-loop-during-pandemic-in-sign-of-us-city-center-shift

Also, most of the new development is happening adjacent to the loop (river north, south loop, and especially west loop. I'd argue Fulton Market is more fun to visit than Mag Mile now.

>> No.54229244

Milwaukee

>> No.54229248

>>54228620
beaches suck

>> No.54229264

>>54228463
Seriously if you aren't becoming a leader of a hyperborean town what are you doing with your gains? Jerking off?

>> No.54229266

>>54229178
This. Countries like this or Vietnam or Indonesia or something similar are where all the new innovation and exciting stuff is going to come from. There is nothing "hot" or "exciting" about the US anymore. Its a country full of lazy, complacent losers who do nothing but WFH, watch Netflix all day and shop on Amazon.

>> No.54229274

>>54229083
We'll see after this next election - everything I mentioned will either
>happen
>be completely shot to shit
Dependent entirely on our two choices for mayor. One is a pro-police basically-a-republican, the other is a far, far left progressive.

Give it until April 5th to see if the points I mentioned actually comes to fruition. We got rid of Lori so that was a good start.

>> No.54229282

Salt Lake City if the poisoned lake doesn't make it inhabitable

>> No.54229298

San Francisco

>> No.54229357

>>54229235
>I work in the loop three days per week (usually) and can confirm the opposite.

I have family that works in the Loop and they tell me its fucking dead and that all the restaurants are closed and its still even a bit dangerous. Half of Michigan Ave is fucking dead too.

>especially west loop. I'd argue Fulton Market is more fun to visit than Mag Mile now.

Yes, they have confirmed this though. However, Michigan Ave used to be a great wholesome place to do things like Christmas shop and eat at fancy old money restaurants. Fulton Market is new money, Instagram flexing trash with no real commerce outside of some "trendy" meme restaurants and bars. Its not sustainable if youre looking for any real economic advantage or organic growth to the city.

>> No.54229533

>>54228927
Chicago downtown was one of the nastiest downtowns I have ever seen and I got Detroit downtown regularly

>> No.54229776

>>54229266
Checked and correct.

>> No.54229835

San Antonio is close

>> No.54229873

>>54228927
Chicago is having massive population flight, though much of this is from the black population. The main issue with Chicago, is it is the the atithesis of cool. Sure, back in the day it was full of trendy beatniks and blues clubs, but now it is a just a washed up suburnban city. It has sports, parks, restaurants, and museums, but not much else. It is surrounded by nothing but suburbs and corn. There are no other major cities anywhere near it. It is full of bland consoomers, who moved from surrounding suburbs, and now work bland jobs, living bland lives. There is no surrounding nature. The culture culture has all flown out over the last 10 years. Chicago is cheap, compared to many other cities, but that is all it has going for it.

>>54228421
Philadelphia. Atlanta.

>> No.54230026

>>54228421
You need to look into what cities have plans to develop their downtown areas. D.C. completely gentrified the Navy Yard and within 15 years they bulldozed and rebuilt the entire area. Places like that are where you need to be investing. Gilbert is trying to do the same thing with downtown Detroit and Cleveland although that's a much larger job with less budget.

>> No.54231232

>>54228421
Go to Seattle, pretty sure when the shit next hits the fan the shitskins everywhere else are going to go cannibal.

>> No.54231849

>>54230026
>DC
>Cleveland
>Detroit

Sounds like a massive scam. What industry is Cleveland or Detroit going to bring to give birth to a thriving, productive community? And dont you dare to tell me "tech". There is no real economy in these cities and there never will be. These are boring, gross, ugly, unproductive shitholes being pumped up by ponzi scheme "developers". They are never going to amount to shit, no matter how many idiots take the bait to move to them. I've been hearing about Detroit for the past decade now, and its still an abandoned shithole, just two more weeks right?

No real industry = no real economy = boring, bland, shithole American cities. And thats just the way it is. That's why Asia, with all our offshored manufacturing jobs, is thriving and were sinking. Tech scam start-ups cannot and will not ever fill that void.

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54231884

Underdeveloped Gulf Coast communities.

>> No.54231888

>>54228421
Those cities were already full years before the pandemic. Wyoming, Nebraska, & Kansas were the big ones during the pandemic

>> No.54231917

>>54228869
Why not? Some parts of China actually seem quite nice / livable for Western standards

>> No.54231955

>>54228421
Rust belt cities. Pittsburg, Cincinnati Indianapolis, Detroit

>> No.54231960

>>54231849
C'mon man DC is not that bad. What about NOVA / surrounding areas?
>t. Arlington pajeet

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St. Louis will be more desirable in the coming years:

>great old city aesthetic and architecture
>affordable housing
>Soros funded politicians are currently getting btfo which will hopefully bring crime down
>good sport city
>decent public transit/impressive greenways expected to finish soon
>black people are leaving

I think the worst is behind the city and it’ll start going uphill in the next few years

>> No.54231976

>>54231955
>Pittsburg, Cincinnati Indianapolis, Detroit

No one is moving to these shitholes. Get real.

>> No.54232058

>>54231960
>NOVA

Boring, suburban-esque, sprawled out shithole like every other city in the United States. Lame as fuck. Go overseas to Asia or Europe if you want to see what real cities look like. American cities are a joke and complete dumpster fires in comparison. They will never amount to shit unless they are literally torn down and rebuilt from scratch again with actual density and walkability, coupled with a real industry to spur economic development. Everything else is just cope and real estate development scams trying to sucker the next FOMO idiot.

>> No.54232076

>>54228573
>>54228585
>Prolly like Denver or some shit

bruh where you been, Denver grew exceptionally fast throughout the 2010s. It's been one of the fastest growing cities for a while now. That being said I think it's petering out now that most other states have legalized weed.

From like 2012-2020 basically every midwest stoner had the dream to move to Colorado, and many of them did. I know like over 50 people in Colorado, all of them moved there in the last decade, none of them are from CO

>> No.54232079

>>54231965
>St. Louis

Delusional. What actual industry does St. Louis have? Its an unproductive shithole.

>> No.54232099

>>54228421
Atlantic City, NJ. They continue to gentrify the areas around the casinos and boardwalk. Right now they have about 2 blocks off of the casinos and boardwalks they've completely demolished and built brand new housing. All the people who lived there previously have been pushed into the 2 surrounding cities where crime has spiked while Atlantic City has become safer.

>> No.54232100

>>54228927
sketchy as fuck city

>> No.54232127

>>54228421
>>54231965
>St. Louis will be more desirable in the coming years:

STL will NEVER be desirable unless they get a handle on crime. That being said, OP, if you are black, you might actually like STL because there are tons of black people there, and despite the crime and gangbangers, they actually have a fairly strong black "middle class" or "bougie" type blacks like you find in Atlanta and other big black cities. Basically, there are non-ghetto blacks there who consider themselves to be sophisticated.

That being said, KC has been growing a lot over the past few years, especially since we wont the Superbowl twice. I hope KC does not blow up and become the next IT city, because housing costs here have gone up a lot and are already astronomical. It's pretty difficult to find a good 1 bedroom apartment for less than $900 a month now.

And for buying a house, it's hard to find anything over 2000 square feet for less than 250k (but it is doable). KC has a lot of nice shit but if you're in the suburbs it's pretty boring. If you don't mind suburban life though, it's hard to find a better place to live than Overland Park or other parts of Johnson County, Kansas (biggest suburb of KC).

>> No.54232141

Houston and it's not even close, or more specifically the suburbs around it like Katy or anything down 99 - so many fucking new million dollar starting suburbs going up around there it's not even funny. Houston sucks too but it's cheap as fuck for such a big city and you can carry a gun to deal with the riffraff. Sumbitch is blowing the fuck up and the Astros can and are fucking so they have a good sports team as well, even if the Texans are complete dogwater and will be for the next several years minimum. It is literally one of the fastest growing parts of the entire country, and it and Austin (San Francisco of the South) will be why Texas goes blue in the next couple years.

>> No.54232150

>>54231976

>Top medical research institute
>defense
>billion dollar investment coming in to make it a centralized manufacturing hub due to location

Some to name a few you sour little faggot

>> No.54232157

Since I know everyone here is actually a brainlet, I'll tell you the answer. It's Kansas City. Columbus is another good answer. The "currently exploding cities" are Raleigh and Houston imo. Nashville, Austin, Denver, etc are late stage

>> No.54232169

>>54232127
I will say, one of the bigger problems for KC is that it's kind of in the middle of nowhere, and not near any other major cities. It's common here for music fans to do road trips to Denver or Chicago to see good concerts, for example. The only other cities nearby area all 3-4 hours away and consist of Omaha, Des Moines, STL, and Tulsa/OKC. Also about 3 hours from Fayetteville in Northwest Arkansas, but that's about it.

I will say, I went to Nashville for the first time recently. It's similar sized to KC, but it feels like there is a lot more going on, and that there's more money being poured into the town compared to KC

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>>54229298
lol

>> No.54232216

>>54232127
Yeah as a St. Louisan are problems are ungodly deep. Seriously, you would literally have to purge thousands of niggers, convince people the city is safe again, get some businesses to move downtown, and expand the metrolink. 60% of downtown buildings are sitting empty right now, and the billions in investment would take a very long time to come. This would take about 100 years starting now. There's no hope, but our suburbs are elite and affordable

>> No.54232221

>>54228927
I don't disagree, it's actually a beautiful city in the summer and has a good energy but the politics, the disgusting goblina mayor, the taxes and the history of corruption ruin it. Not to mention the awful weather.

>> No.54232230

>>54232157
problem with Kansas City is that barely any housing has been built since 2008, so rents are going sky high. 13-14 years ago you could get a nice one bedroom apartment in the suburbs with dishwasher, washer/dryer/balcony for like $500. Now those same apartments go for like $950, in the suburbs lmao. It's pretty fucking insane.

I just don't see KC truly taking off until more affordable housing can be built

>> No.54232239

>>54232150
>>54232127
>>54232157
>>54232169
Nobody is moving to any of these do-nothing, sprawled out, boring Midwestern shitholes. If someone is going to move to the Midwest, they will just move to Chicago instead which is 1000x nicer and more developed than any of its neighbors, and even then that city has major problems of its own. America has absolutely nothing going for it to make any of these cities viable or even remotely competitive in any sense.

>> No.54232256

SLC honestly. No other city can match the tech, tourism, and entrepreneurial vibes it has going on. Also has a lot of money going into it.

>> No.54232269

>>54232221
>>54228927
I'm kind of partial to Chicago as well. It's really the only place in the midwest that actually feels like a true city. If they can get a handle on crime, the sky is the limit for chicago. Absolute god-tier summers. Every major band you wanna see comes through Chicago. Tons of good food. All the hottest midwest girls move to Chicago for the most part. It's where all of the talent goes.

Places like KC end up getting "talent" (whether talking just hotness of women, or other young people working jobs) from the small towns in Missouri and the surrounding areas. People from like Wichita or Omaha move to KC because it's "the big city" compared to where they are from, but it still sucks here

>> No.54232271

its actually still Florida

St. Pete if I had to pick one spot

>> No.54232277

>>54232256
>SLC honestly

I dont even know wtf this abbreviation stands for.

>tech, tourism, and entrepreneurial vibes

Ah so unprofitable scams and ponzi schemes are its main "up and coming" industry?

>> No.54232298

>>54232239
Downtowns just aren't attractive to live in if car based. I'm not sure why politicians don't realize this yet. I'd love to ride the metrolink more in STL but it's nigger-infested and feels sketchy

>> No.54232301

>>54232271
There is no industry in Florida, and no, "tech" doesnt count. Its all seasonal tourism. There is no real economy there. Its a place for people with money to vacation and flex on the poorfag locals.

>> No.54232320

>>54229873
>There are no other major cities anywhere near it

Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and Detroit are all pretty close to Chicago. You could even include Indianapolis

>> No.54232343

>>54232320
Every single one of the cities you just listed off are complete shitholes no self respecting person would ever want to live in, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they're all close to Chicago.

>> No.54232359

>>54232298
>I'm not sure why politicians don't realize this yet.

Because America is an old, decrepit dinosaur that is 30 years out of fashion. Nothing will change until every shithole surburban sprawl style city is literally torn down to the last brick and rebuilt up again from scratch with density and walkability in mind.

>> No.54232360

>>54232239
>Nobody is moving to any of these do-nothing, sprawled out, boring Midwestern shitholes

based, I genuinely hope this is true because I want to be able to buy a house in KC within the next few years, and if WFH people keep moving here from the coasts I won't be able to. It's times like this I am grateful for Missouri politicians passing anti-abortion legislation to scare rich liberals away from moving here (although they can just go across the border to Kansas to get bortions)

>> No.54232385

>>54232298
>>54232298
>Downtowns just aren't attractive to live in if car based. I'm not sure why politicians don't realize this yet. I'd love to ride the metrolink more in STL but it's nigger-infested and feels sketchy

Metrolink could be so much better. Last time I was in STL there wasn't even a mechanism to check tickets. Basically you're supposed to buy a ticket, but if you don't you're essentially fine unless a ticket enforcement person happens to be on your train and asks you for a ticket

>> No.54232389

>>54232320
None of these are real cities. I even literally grew up in Chicago and I think I maybe went to Milwaukee once in my entire life at most.

>> No.54232390

>>54228421
Probably parts of Chicago

>black people leaving in droves
>represents opportunity for true urban living with less of the indignities of NYC
>relatively affordable real estate
>stable economy with strong job base

Vallas is gonna clean this city up bois

>> No.54232400

>>54228421
Move to Delaware.
There's a city called Middletown that is absolutely exploding and still has fairly cheap real estate and farms. For whatever reason, it does attract a slew of non-whites, but not naggers, mostly all Asians...very intelligent crew developing in the area. Probably due to so much banking and biotech-pharm industries Look into it.

>> No.54232449

>>54229058
>Imitating
Dude that’s literally the native culture here, they’ve been living in similar buildings since before your ancestors knew what a book is.

>> No.54232523

Sure, here are some more cities in the United States that have been experiencing growth and development in recent years:

Charlotte, North Carolina
Portland, Oregon
Atlanta, Georgia
Miami, Florida
Phoenix, Arizona
Salt Lake City, Utah
San Antonio, Texas
Tampa, Florida
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Columbus, Ohio

Of course, there are many other cities that are also seeing growth and development, and different factors may be contributing to their success. It's important to note that while some cities may be growing rapidly, others may be experiencing challenges or decline, so it's important to consider multiple factors before making any predictions or decisions.

>> No.54232525

>>54232449
Shut the fuck up I've been to Orange County its literally a giant Chicago suburb that happens to exist next to the ocean. Your tacky 1990s cheap Meditteranean stucco architecture isnt fooling anybody except other tacky retards and Asian immigrants. Another sprawled suburban-esque shithole with god awful traffic.

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Unironicallt Detroit. It’s a festering shithole, but soon all of burgerlands major cities are going to resemble it, leaving property there averaging WAY below the national median even more than it probably already is. There will be some kind of longing to restore it to the industrial capitol it used to be in the 40s and 50s.

>> No.54232564

>>54232526
>There will be some kind of longing to restore it to the industrial capitol it used to be in the 40s and 50s.

People have been saying this all throughout the 2010s. Nothing has happened. Detroit renovation is about as much of a meme and a scam as the tech sector.

>> No.54232618

>>54232526
If only companies move in first and pay off the decades of taxes of those homes. The average home buyer isn't gonna buy a $5000 house if it's behind $250k in taxes

>> No.54232636

>>54228523
kek

>> No.54232686

>>54228620
Is anywhere in Dubrovnik affordable?

>> No.54232687

Fuck winter.

I am moving to Florida and refuse to invest in any place where it snows regularly. Why the fuck should I live in a place where half the year I would freeze to death if trapped outside for a night.

>> No.54232714

>>54232687
Winter is kino

>> No.54232730

>>54228421
Buenos Aires or San Salvador, anon. Lower crime rates than most US cities at this point and if you're remote, the timezones match up to US ones.

>> No.54232761

if by "blow up" you mean, fill full of mouthbreathing fucking tourists, then yes, florida blew the fuck up lol.

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>>54228421
Gary, Indiana.

>Buy when there's blood in the streets

>> No.54232774

>>54232686
Unironically yes. I was just there last year. 200k for a nice condo near the water in a nice walkable, beautiful small city, which while yes expensive for the Balkans, beats $800k for a landlocked, boring, sprawled out shithole like Phoenix. Food is cheap away from the tourist areas. My centralized Airbnb apartment was like $30 a night. Its not Southeast Asia cheap, but its fucking very cheap compared to some homeless, crime ridden hellscape like San Francisco or New York.

>> No.54232778

>>54231849
If the country ever nuts up and gets back into manufacturing a majority of its own shit, Detroit and Cleveland are prime real estate.

If we're talking climate change, Cleveland and Detroit are even bigger winners.

>> No.54232779

>>54232687
Harsh winters keep minorities away.

>> No.54232812

Tulsa Oklahoma

>> No.54232813

>>54228421
San Diego

>> No.54232816

>>54228897
This. I am a Miamian and I am so tired of these white bros moving here

>> No.54232818

>>54231976
detroit is actually blowing up, the number of out of state plates I see around here daily has multiplied every year

>> No.54232875

>>54232778
>If the country ever nuts up and gets back into manufacturing a majority of its own shit

It won't. Corporations and liberal consumer Karens are too greedy.

>If we're talking climate change

Another scam. Keep waiting. At best youll maybe get your wish 100 years from now long after you died, and thats being generous.

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>>54228421
Downtown Philadelphia prices will be getting up to Manhattan prices soon enough. Has all the amenities of a hip Manhattan area but with Queens prices. It's already starting to move. Also blacks are getting push out of west Philly. Look at "University City" where University of Pennsylvania, Drexel, and St. Joe's are

>> No.54232893

>>54232818
>Detroit
You mean Wayne county, macomb county, and Oakland county; but make sure you guys don’t move here so I can keep buying houses for cheap

>> No.54232900

>>54232818
There is no industry or development in Detroit. Let me know when those laughable "skyscrapers" downtown finally reach 100% full occupancy again.

>> No.54232928

>>54232900
you're the dumbest faggot imaginable
it will take another generation to get together, yes
I'm glad the niggers are here to keep bitter pussies like you out

>> No.54232930

>>54232882
>Philadelphia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i9aKC5-h8A

Yes totally worth the rip-off prices!

>> No.54232973

>>54232928
I'm from Chicago faggot. It's not niggers keeping me away from your shithole of a city- its the fact that its as much of an abandoned, boring, lackluster, lame hellscape with 0 economy as it was decades ago.

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>>54232930
Kensington isn't downtown Philadelphia. That's like saying the upper west side of Manhattan is a rip of because long island is a dump midwit

>> No.54233006

>>54232930
>>54232900
>>54232875
>>54232774
>>54232564
>>54232973
>22 posts by this anon
Ah you're a troll opinions discarded

>> No.54233009

>>54228421
Boise

>> No.54233030

>>54228421
Miami, i believe miami is slowly kicking poor, crazy people to the midwest. im in ohio, its full of florida and new york plates. new york will remain an expensive crime riddles city, miami will attract younger people because the coomer vice city mindset.

>> No.54233042

>>54228421
If you really want to know, Its Columbus, OH. Intel is building couple of plants around here to produce chips n shit

>> No.54233049

>>54233006
cope. your city will always be an overpriced, shithole with 0 economy, just like everywhere else in the US.

>> No.54233069

54233049
>If I act retarded in this thread I'll get a bunch of (you)s
Must be a sad life you live low IQ anon

>> No.54233074

>>54232816
>>54228897
Lived in Miami for 30 years, moved to Tennessee after Covid. I'm the only person that left Florida instead of moving to it.

>> No.54233075

>>54232816
>I am a Miamian and I am so tired of these white bros moving here

This is the only GOOD thing Miami has going for it.

>> No.54233087

>>54228927
>crime will subside
>in chicongo
KEK

>> No.54233094

>>54228421
mexico city
Dheli
Kolkata

>> No.54233095

>>54232221
>the disgusting goblina mayor
She's gone thank god. She came in third in the general election on Feb 28th. Now there's a runoff between the top two. One is great, the other is worse than she was.
>the taxes
Can't argue with you there. The saving grace is that we have a flat 5% statewide income tax, significantly lower than a NY or a CA. We also have sky-high property tax, second highest in the nation behind new jersey. The good news though is that property tax tends to keep home prices relatively low in comparison, so it's easier to enter the property ladder. You won't see insane appreciation though unless you're in a gentrifying neighborhood.
>Not to mention the awful weather
This winter we've only had 12in of snow. About half of the usual. It's only going to get warmer too which is nice.

>>54232271
As a Tampa Bay native (that chooses to live in chicago) >>54232301 is correct. Florida is a wonderful place to retire, but good luck living there as a working adult. It is hell.

>> No.54233102

>>54233069
Says the retard shilling out crime ridden shitholes like Philadelphia. Stay delusional, idiot.

>> No.54233105

>>54229178
This, if they don't assassinate the dude, el salavador is poised for a boom in prosperity by the end of the decade

>> No.54233114
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>>54232390
>Vallas is gonna clean this city up bois
We can only hope

>> No.54233143

>>54232973
>I'm from Chicago faggot.
he says furiously from schaumburg

>> No.54233156

>>54233143
Nope. Lincoln Park.

>> No.54233162
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54233162

The fact that I live in the only top 20 metro not mentioned in this thread yet makes me content

>> No.54233172

>>54233102
East Hastings in Vancouver looks as bad if not worse than Kensington yet Vancouver is was the most Lucrative buy in North America. You don't know what you're talking about epic troll lord

>> No.54233179

>>54233156
The place with the least culture (though I do love LP). nice

>> No.54233202

>>54233162
>minny
comfiest city I have ever visited

>> No.54233219

>>54232812
Here it is. The perfect answer.
So much money in Tulsa you can get paid to move there

>> No.54233225

>>54233162
Cold, boring, no industry, half the city was burned down in riots.

>> No.54233238

>>54233179
I dont live there anymore, just grew up there. Im in the middle of plans to leave the US.

>> No.54233267

>>54233238
>Im in the middle of plans to leave the US.
I don't disagree with that sentiment honestly. I'm engaged to a teacher though so chicago, especially the north suburbs, is just about the best place for us to be anyway. I'd prefer to stay in the city though.

>> No.54233294

>>54232979
Some parts of montco aren't complete shit but all of Philadelphia County is a shit hole.

>> No.54233314

>>54233294
Norristown and Pottstown are cheap for a reason. They are comparable to North Philly.

>> No.54233328

>>54228421
unironically, Wyoming

>> No.54233350

>>54228927
>mired in debt from decades of corrupt politicians
>shrinking population and tax base
>with wfh Noone cares about downtown anymore
>city government controlled by liberals and blacks
Chicago is fucked

>> No.54233379
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54233379

>>54233225
>>54233238
Answer this troll >>54233172
You bring up Kensington while Vancouver has pic rel and has outperformed every single city. Where your fucking answer kiddo? I guarantee you move goalposts

>> No.54233402
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54233402

>>54231849
In 2000 I would agree with you. But there's been so much investment in downtown Detroit in the past 25 years that it's hard to ignore. Greektown opened in 2000. Motor City opened in 1999. MGM Grand opened in 2007. Comerica Park opened in 2000, Ford Field in 2002, Little Caesars Arena and even a Velodrome in 2017. Gilbert has invested 5.6 billion to rehab buildings in downtown. I don't know of any other city in this country where you are a 10 minute walk from 3 major casinos, all 4 major sports teams, and 5 concert halls/theatres.

They have kicked out 300k niggers in 20 years. The city demolishes their homes so they can't come back. Money is pouring into the city. All of downtown and the north side is being redeveloped. They just announced a 2.3 billion healthcare campus in New Center. You have Whole Foods and Meijer down there now. Founders reopened their taproom. These are all businesses you want to see going up in areas.

>> No.54233426

>>54233379
Chinese tourists laundering their money in a real estate bubble is not a real economy and does not make for a nice city, retard. Vancouver is another overvalued shithole with no merit besides "muh mountains".

>> No.54233507

>>54233350
>shrinking population and tax base
This is where you're wrong, see >>54228951
The population loss is coming from net tax drains.

>> No.54233512

>>54228421
None of these. The next cities are going to be brand new essentially. Expect yuppie towns developed by entertainment firms like the mouse absolutely exploding in popularity.

>> No.54233525

>>54231917
Gutter oil, doggos, infrastructure, etc.

>> No.54233541

>>54233512
>Expect yuppie towns developed by entertainment firms like the mouse absolutely exploding in popularity.
example?

>> No.54233552

>>54233426
>not a real economy
Holy cope. I'm sure the people who made a million off of owning shitty 1br condos think their money is fake too
>"muh mountains"
Subhumans can understand the appeal of nature or mountains. Again your post just boil down to
>If I say retarded shit I'll get a bunch of (you)s

>> No.54233571

>>54233402
Sounds like all bread and circus distractions. Wheres the real industry? Whats the main economic driver?

>> No.54233583
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54233583

What about Indianapolis? Sizeable city and has very affordable homes. seems too good to be true.

>> No.54233593

>>54232301
What are you talking about? There is a shit ton of defense industrial investment in Florida. Multiple major naval and air force installations dot the entire state along with many defense contractors.

I would say Florida's top three industries are entertainment/tourism, defense, and finance.

>> No.54233600

>>54233552
Spoken like a true con artist real estate agent. Get a real job you fucking loser. Youre a net drain on society.

>> No.54233614

>>54228421
>>basically all of florida
holy shit, have u seen the state of emergency videos? its a fucking shithole.

>> No.54233619

>>54228421
>they're all unaffordable now
Yeah that's the whole point. They don't want poorfag liberal pussies like you moving there.

>> No.54233648

>>54233593
>There is a shit ton of defense industrial investment in Florida

How many local Floridians do you know who work for Defense Contractors in Florida? Go ahead and list them, I'll wait...

>> No.54233651

>>54232301

Lots of military and defense spending in Florida. Hotels & hospitality is a big industry too obviously. Then real estate (selling shit to retiring boomers). Then money management (managing old boomers money). Then if you go somewhere like Miami prostitution, drugs, and crime pay pretty well. I agree though for a 'normal' working person I would never want to live in Florida. It's old people, military, and the further south you go degenerate hispanics and hypocritical Cubans.

>> No.54233657

>>54233075
Yeah they're pricing out all the spics and niggers. And on top of that, Florida passed a bill not that long ago that massively slashed their unemployment gibs, so they can't even stay and leech off the welfare. Literally paradise now kek

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54233660

>>54232687
That was my mentality when I moved to Las Vegas, but you have the same issues in the summer months where it's too hot to do anything outside.

There's a reason people snowbird to Florida and don't live there year-round. It doesn't get below 70 degrees from June to October, highs are almost always in the 90s and humid, cloudy, raining, with the threat of Hurricanes August to October.

>> No.54233672

>>54232523

Thanks Chat GPT. Reminder answers are from 2021. I would say a lot of these places like Miami, Atlanta, Portland, etc. the ship has sailed. However, places like Pittsburgh are still on the come-up, but have some geographic isolation to contend with.

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>>54233583
I wonder why

>> No.54233695

>>54233541
The panhandle of Florida. One of the fastest growing areas there is the 30A region, which has 0 industry (but it is officially open year round now). It exists as a dense walkable series of towns with boutique shopping and entertainment with very deliberate architecture.

It was mainly made for 'richer' tourists who wanted to be on the gulf without being accosted by anyone poor, but now is becoming a full-time residence of WFH wagies.

Disney is setting up a similar community I believe in California and taking all the lessons learned from their earlier attempt at celebration.

>>54233648
A very large portion of my graduating class from FSU. I would say that pluck a large slice of the STEM demographic from the Florida universities. At my (old) position I worked primarily with people from UWF, UF, and FSU. I guess you'd actually get someone from Auburn as well.

>> No.54233719

>>54232882

I was literally just in West Philadelphia last week. Got some jerk chicken. I can tell you those neighborhoods, despite some gentrification obviously happening when you look at the construction, are still mostly trashy black folks. The gentrifiers from what I could tell actually seemed to be young college students to your point about University City. Pretty inreresting. I like Philadelphia and have thought about moving there. I'd want to be somwhere near Rittenhouse though. It's a lot more expensive but in comparison to other northeast cities even the prices there are nothing...

>> No.54233722

>>54233651
>military

Poorfag welfare queens from out of state. Not a real industry.

>defense spending

Never knew a single local in Florida who benefitted from employment in Defense Spending. This shit exclusively benefits rich business owners who rip off the taxpayers.

>Hotels & hospitality is a big industry too obviously.

Again seasonal tourism.

>Then real estate (selling shit to retiring boomers).

Bubble scam and ponzi scheme. Not a real economy.

>Then money management (managing old boomers money).

Extremely niche.

>prostitution, drugs, and crime pay pretty well.

Yeah, because there is no real economy in Florida. Not a valid answer.

>> No.54233727

>>54228421
test

>> No.54233770

>>54228421
Kansas City
San Antonio (ship might have sailed already)
Roanoke or Richmond
Memphis
Birmingham
Cincinnati
Reno

>>54232400
>Move to Delaware.
>There's a city called Middletown
Isn't this a Wilmington suburb? I'd still throw Wilmington on the list but it's bad odds.

>> No.54233784

>>54232686
Yea, Croatia in general is pretty damn cheap and crime feels nonexistent compared to the US due to no minorities. Saw some nice AirBnBs that were as low as $400-$600/mo. Buying property is allowed by foreigners, I believe, but it might be a pain in the ass due to their extremely bureaucratic culture that's a remnant of the socialist Yugoslavia days (many fake/useless "uhljeb" jobs were created so that people had shit to keep them preoccupied and not revolting, which in turn meant you needed like twelve fucking stamps of approval on paperwork for no damn reason).

>> No.54233795

>>54233722
Oh also, shipping is a major industry here and Florida is an internet nexus (take a look at a map of internet cables)

>> No.54233805

>>54233770
>Memphis

Disregarded your entire list after this. Not that I believed the rest of your shithole Midwestern "cities" on that list were any more valid.

>> No.54233822

>>54233695
Go noles
>>54233695
>the 30A region
Oh god I know it well. My ex is from SRB. As a vacation spot it is excellent, but, again, not a great place to live unless you have a full time job, own a tourist-centered business, etc. In a recession, communities like this are what go bust fastest. Granted 30A is known worldwide and is probably insulated from such a fate, but prices reflect that hence why it's much harder to get started with say opening a restaurant there.

Go 30 miles down the road to Cape San Blas which got anhialated by a hurricane recently, it's a much different story.

>> No.54233842

>>54233042
I live in columbus, its not just cheap real estate.
>for now

>> No.54233849

>>54233795
>shipping is a major industry here

Cruise ship employees get paid borderline minimum wage. Its a poorfag wagie industry meant for poorfag Latino refugees. If you are talking about container ships, most of those are foreign flag and have nothing to do with US labor.

>> No.54233887

>>54233822

I love 30A, but I agree I have no clue why someone would live there full-time. I spent a lot of time there (lived in the pan handle for a couple years) when I was younger, and I biked all along it during off-season and there was literally no one around. Like totally empty beaches with huge houses on them. Beautiful place, but not one to make a career or a life for oneself. It's for people that already have things set up. It also can be very lonely and isolating out there. If I was going to live full time I'd probably prefer a community like Sandestin or something which has more of a neighborhood feel (on the residential side). Seaside etc. are nice but man it just gets so empty and lifeless in off seasons.

>> No.54233964

>>54233695
>A very large portion of my graduating class from FSU. I would say that pluck a large slice of the STEM demographic from the Florida universities. At my (old) position I worked primarily with people from UWF, UF, and FSU. I guess you'd actually get someone from Auburn as well.

Ok, how does this benefit the average, and yes, perhaps uneducated, working Joe and Jane in Florida though? You might not give a shit about them, but if you want a thriving economy and city you have to find a way to employ these people with a job in an industrious sector that provides decent wages relative to the cost of living around them. You might just say "ah, fuck them" which whatever, you do you, but you arent going to have a thriving location if everyone around you is broke and poor and jobless/underemployed with no advancement in a real career. You want to know why countries like China and Vietnam beat the US? They took all their poorfag, uneducated shanty town dwellers and illiterate rural farmers and put them to work in the mega-factories of the major cities. Thats what makes a thriving country, not a handful STEM graduates working for some niche company.

>> No.54233981

>>54233822
That's my point exactly. Cities are unironically on their way out.

These new towns are going to be suburbs 2.0 but even MORE isolated. People like cities for their walkability and entertainment, but hate them for being poorly designed for families and full of unwashed brown masses (which is only going to continue to get worse).

Areas like 30A have exploded these last couple years and not because of tourism. They're highly walkable, have a shit ton of places to eat, and plenty to do (much more than suburbia or small town America). A HUGE amount of WFHers have moved to 30A (my sister and her husband are one of them and all their friends are part of this new caste too).

Disney is already taking notes and making moves to create their own town/living community (again). I expect this to be the future, cities are going to be vacated again for well planned town/living communities (which will take the place of suburbs in isolating the white and wealthy away from the brown and poor). No one solved the problem of cities which caused exoduses in the first place and I expect these communities to be the answer.

We'll see how the next Disney town goes though, I think that's going to be the true test (because it will be so widely publicized).

>> No.54234010

>>54233648
I know quite a few people that work for Lockheed Martin in Orlando

>> No.54234012

>>54233964
Ship building is also a fairly big part of the defense industry and there are many maintainence and boatyards (not even counting the military focused ones).

I'm not sure what your point is? The average Joe without much in the way of technical skills still can work at these yards.

>> No.54234023

>>54229139
>as dead as NYC
You must have been there in 2020 or early 2021 and still somehow using that as an experience

>> No.54234034

>>54233849
>Shipping isn't an industry
Okay. You know, there's people who work OFF the boats right? Who do have to be US citizens.

>> No.54234062

>>54233887
When's the last time you were there?

You guys are missing the point, the 30A of five years ago is NOT the 30A now. People are actually MOVING there because they have WFH jobs and it is like ideal WFH wage cage. Overpriced, walkable, on the beach.

What I'm trying to say is that THESE communities are the future or at least what will start to replace suburbs for the wagies blessed with WFH.

>> No.54234106

>>54233981
WFH is not a real industry and does nothing to benefit the majority of the locals in 30A who are most likely poorfag service industry wage workers who would actually be the ones to make the place "thriving" or "economically booming". The McDonalds cashier will still end up staying a McDonalds cashier. Some WFH tech troon from California isnt doing anything to help the economy in 30A- they're just contributing to inflation. It's still a dead end for cities and towns everywhere in the US.

>> No.54234116

>>54228605
underrated and true.

>> No.54234130

>>54234023
Fucking cope. New York City being one of the few walkable cities in the US with working public transit still doesnt excuse it from being an overrated, overpriced shithole.

>> No.54234149

>>54233964
>36 posts
Fuck off jesus

>>54228421
You'll want to look at cities with shrinking black populations
>They weren't alone. The largest African American population growth in pure numbers over the past decade didn't take place in Atlanta or Houston, long identified as hubs of Black life, but rather in less congested cities with lower profiles: Fort Worth; Columbus, Ohio; Jacksonville, Florida; and Charlotte, North Carolina. Each gained between 32,000 and 40,000 new Black residents from 2010 to 2020, according to 2020 census figures.

>Meanwhile, Black residents left the nation’s largest cities, New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, by the tens of thousands. (Some US News bullshit article)

This isn't just pure racism (although that's fine too) but simply because black people are poor as shit and retarded. Gentrification and development pushes them away, so go wherever they are fleeing if you can afford it.

>> No.54234150

>>54234012
>Ship building

Mostly in Virginia, not Florida. And its still an incredibly small industry compared to what it used to be decades ago.

>> No.54234164

>>54234149
Yeah you just trade black people with insufferable troons and liberal hipsters. Pick you poison. US cities still suck ass.

>> No.54234168

>>54234106
Lmao, the workers in 30A are NOT poor. They make ridiculous cash in tips, the waiters there score >100k easy and don't even live in the area (trust me, I have both sides of the coin in the 30A area, my brother is a felon waiter, restaurant there are overpriced and everyone tips, hell I dated a pizza delivery driver who was clearly 60k a year easy).

But that's besides the point. These towns will be designed with 0 INDUSTRY in mind. Industry is for the poor and those who haven't been granted full WFH. I actually expect these communities to be a reasonable distance AWAY from industry or major cities so as to not encourage government dumping of poor people because there simply aren't enough jobs.

These will be the new suburbs. Daily Commuting to the city will be replaced by a monthly flight to a headquarters.

>> No.54234218

>>54233695
The people I knew down there talked about how awful the traffic was, how true is that?

Florida also worries me because of the hurricane threats. The panhandle was hit by Michael in 2018 and Sally in 2020. People go to Florida to be warm and go to the beaches and the panhandle is the coldest, wettest part of the state.

The state is primarily driven by tourism and the panhandle doesn't get anywhere near the flight traffic that Miami/Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, or even Tampa/Fort Myers does.

Tampa seems like the better play.

>> No.54234225

>>54229266
>89 IQ jungle Asians
>Innovating and exciting

Just say you want an excuse to be a sex tourist and leave it at that.

>> No.54234229

>>54228927
I just cannot believe a city governed by Illinois will explode. Minneapolis stands a better chance.

>> No.54234268

>>54229357
Michigan Avenue is dead because the city did fuck all to control the chimpout that happened in 2020. It was complete anarchy. Businesses were being looted and destroyed left and right and nobody did anything to stop the nigger mayhem. The cuckoldry by the police department was on another level.

Anyone with a brain realized that it's a terrible place to do business somewhere that basic property rights aren't enforced and left.

>> No.54234289

>>54234168
>Lmao, the workers in 30A are NOT poor. They make ridiculous cash in tips

Whatever helps you cope. Seen the same flex from the seasonal tourist industry workers in Miami. It was all bullshit lies to save face and they were still broke and only employed for half the year.

>These towns will be designed with 0 INDUSTRY in mind.

Delusional schizo tranny rant. This is not how successful communities are built.

>Industry is for the poor and those who haven't been granted full WFH.

Sounds cute until you realize you will be the first to be laid off should any recession occur this year.

>> No.54234298

>>54234225
>Just say you want an excuse to be a sex tourist and leave it at that

t. lives in "thriving" and "up and coming" Columbus, Ohio.

>> No.54234331

>>54234268
Yep, and thats why Chicago is never coming back to the glory days of the early 2000's (or any US city for that matter).

>> No.54234363

>>54228421
Somewhere that's actually decent, i.e. not in the South or in a desert or something like that. The people moving to states like Texas, the Carolinas, Georgia, Tennessee, etc. will move out when they realize how much those places suck. Garbage weather, garbage culture... Yuck.

Think smaller cities in the Northeast and Midwest. Portland, Maine. Providence, Rhode Island. Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Grand Rapids, Michigan. Hell, even St. Louis, Missouri has the potential to become a great city again.

Basically places that have a lot of potential with good reinvestment and aren't in geographical and cultural wastelands like the South.

>> No.54234366

>>54229264
yeah

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>>54234168
>the waiters there score >100k easy
you dont believe this

>> No.54234392

>>54234331
It will come back if we ever get good leadership. Paul Vallas looks promising. I hope he wins.

Imagine a White goy being the mayor of Chicago. It would be nice.

>> No.54234412

>Knoxville, TN
>Wilmington, NC
>Grand Rapids, MI
>Pittsburgh, MI
>St. Petersburg, FL
>Salt lake City, UT

The increases in brazen (nigger) crime and governmental aggressiveness are making this harder to figure out than last cycle imo

>> No.54234423

>>54234218
The traffic is bad, 30A especially is bad because it wasn't designed for cars (it's almost aggressively anti-car in a way because it's trying to discourage outsiders from coming in).

Traffic in other parts of the panhandle is also pretty bad, I come from the Panama City area and it's horrible there, but mostly because it's overpopulated. Hurricanes are always a worry, but if you own a modern home and you're surrounded by modern homes, you're almost always going to be fine. Lots of people will also live further inland (where hurricane damage is much more unlikely/less severe) on water connected to the sea so they can just take their boat out.

The panhandle doesn't have major airports true, but I expect that to change as the development continues. Although, it may never get a major airport as well (every single airport there is literally like a 40 minute flight from Atlanta).

Tampa is better if you want something already developed that will just continue to be developed. If you're playing the investment game, I think it's going to continue to be the panhandle. I guess you could also invest in the areas between Orlando and Tampa and Orlando and Melbourne.

>>54234289
Nah, these people lack money because they're all drug addicts. Have you ever worked in the service industry? These people aren't exactly good with their money.

It's literally a highly extraverted profession without the requirement of having any real skill or brain. They party stupidly hard and all the men love to gamble.

There's nothing schizo about this. Suburbs weren't developed around industry, but escape. These communities will offer the same thing, while being walkable. Also, outside tech, WFH wagies have been unaffected by job loss. My sister works in HR of all things (one of the first groups being cut in the layoffs) and she's unaffected because she's not working for a tech firm.

>> No.54234427

>>54234363
These shitholes you like are no better than the shitholes you hate.

>> No.54234447

>>54233512
>The next cities are going to be brand new essentially
Company towns coming back in vogue, time is a flat circle

>> No.54234545

>>54234423
>Also, outside tech, WFH wagies have been unaffected by job loss. My sister works in HR of all things (one of the first groups being cut in the layoffs) and she's unaffected because she's not working for a tech firm.

That's because were not in a true recession yet are we? Were still at 3.4% unemployment. The Fed has literally stated that employment is too high, JPow fully intends to specifically raise unemployment levels to balance inflation, and who do you think is going to be the first to go when they achieve their stated goal?

>> No.54234550

>>54233981
This is honestly the trend I see happening. I was excited to see ChicagAnon in this thread again (suspiciously on-time and with the same copypasta'd piece about black neighborhoods losing population and the Blue Line corridor's growth - Even now adding a second post to prove the black exodus for people who doubted it on the strength of stereotypes alone despite its quantifiable fact) but this was my point in the other thread:

Middle-income and professional Chicagolanders DID sour on the city-center in the pandemic. Less-so because of the shutdown of entertainment and more-so because of the public-safety-and-quality-of-living decline combined with loss of The Central Business District's loss of... Central Business.

Among my social circle, there are people who hope to climb a lake-adjacent property ladder in the long-term (I'm trying to do this, but I think they're retards anyway), and people who hope to build families, in the short-medium term, who still want an exciting amenity-filled life in a place you can have children. I'm from the suburbs, and while on some level my hometown has become a "hip neighborhood" of a suburb, the swift, major changes have happened in Downers Grove, Naperville, Schaumburg, Evanston, etc. The city-proper is so, so much less of a focus. It's accessible by commuter-rail whenever necessary (not much, but just enough) and its thrills are so cheap, and so replicable. Mid-sized cities like Naperville and Elgin, or even South Shore Line communities in Indiana, have basically replicated the "vibrant consoomerist community" phenomenon of chintzy shops and restaurants that the city proper bears less value.

My current business model relies on students and middle-income professionals associated with the universities in the city. I don't think that's going anywhere. But in the grand scheme of things, I do think that city-sized suburbs on the periphery of major metros stand to gain the most by making city-centers obsolete.

>> No.54234639

>>54228421
Pick the cheapest college town in the sunbelt. Mutts are too pussy to handle the cold

>> No.54235330
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>>54234412
Knoxville was my pick when I opened this thread. Tennessee and the Southeast is booming, Nashville is stupidly overpriced, and Memphis is full of niggers. Knoxville is the next biggest metro area, eastern TN is very white, and if you're someone who grew up in Atlanta and is watching the state become perma-blue, you can escape it by driving a few hours north.

The only issue is that the university is THE show in town and being someone who grew up in a university town, whatever the University wants, they get. UT isn't as liberal as other universities - they are in a red county and did not mandate the vax. But your economic prospects are tied to the university as downtown doesn't have a ton of businesses or urban living, and you're taking a gamble living around students.

>>54234229
It's not. People are leaving Illinois. Everyone I know who lives there complains about weather, taxes, traffic.

>> No.54235403

>>54228927
Chicago fucking sucks.

I was going to type a long post about why it sucks, but I'm not going to bother. It just fucking sucks.

>> No.54235441

>>54235403
Everyone already knows, that poster is a jew, a nigger, or a retarded jew nigger. Chicongo is a hell hole

>> No.54235461

>>54228421
Idaho

Property prices have been dropping there the past year and its over 80% white.

>> No.54235478

>>54235330
You have to have a university to grow, though. The number of grads who want to stay after is a big percentage, and gives you a young demographic who will actually be amenable to changes. NIMBY power is too strong without that

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54235607

Albany-Schenectady-Troy region. Its cheaper than most of NY and so it the housing, and transportation is easy to Boston or NYC. Population jumped immensely from 2019

>> No.54235609

>>54229357
Don’t listen to that idiot. He’s just coping bc he had a mortgage, takes the train, has to work some shit job downtown for his wife and kids, and is probably an alcoholic like everyone in Chicago. I live here. It is a cesspit beyond belief. Worse than Atlanta ten years ago and that’s saying something. Do not come here it is hell and it is so expensive.

>> No.54235803

>>54234268
I walk down Michigan avenue everyday it really wasn't that dramatic. That being said some pre-pandemic trends sped up. So a lot of the designer shit has shifted a block over to Oak Street, and Fulton Market has blown up with a new class of younger wealthy yuppies with different 'hipper' tastes.

>> No.54235805

>>54235330
it's almost like people fled the states with strictest covid restrictions to live in the states with the slackest restrictions
I'm Canadian so I'm not certain but is that true?

>> No.54236224

>>54235803
>wasn't that dramatic

Bro literally an entire block of Michigan Ave, right across the street from the Water Tower Place mall, where the Uniqlo/Borders Bookstore used to be, is all boarded up and derelict now. Compared to how it was a decade ago, that is totally fucked.

>> No.54236253

>>54235330
>But your economic prospects are tied to the university as downtown doesn't have a ton of businesses or urban living, and you're taking a gamble living around students.

And this is a perfect example of why modern US cities suck ass and are nothing but a scam promoted by con-artist real estate developers... THERE IS NO REAL INDUSTRY OR ECONOMY ANYMORE!

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>>54235607
The trend is for people to leave cold states with no economic prospects for warm states with slightly better economic prospects.

>>54235805
COVID was part of it, but the a lot of these Midwest towns don't have the jobs anymore. Millennials went to school and when they graduated they got better job offers in other parts of the country. It's called the "brain drain" here and is well documented.

Large corporations are to blame - they gave the jobs to H1b workers and the suburbs that were 90% white 20 years ago are now littered with Asians. Boomers were the last people who lived good lives here, the only people left are Gen X rejects.

>> No.54236403

>>54232076
>bruh where you been
Literally in Denver. The pump is out of steam. See you again for the next business cycle.

>> No.54236486

>>54235609
I bet it’s the same faggot who’s always spamming Chicago in real estate threads

>>54228573
>>54232076
>prolly
>bruh
Get the fuck off this board you fucking niggers

Anyways Florida and non-Memphis Tennessee are the answers here. I also think phoenix has tons of upside still

>> No.54236530

>>54228421
St .Petersburg
Grand Junction
Grand Forks
Fargo
Corpus Christi

>> No.54236542

>>54236530
St. Petersburg has no industry outside of tourism and the rest are all "literal who" trash.

>> No.54236559

>>54228421
cincinnati, its the san diego of the midwest

>> No.54236607

>>54228951
Why the fuck are gains in red and losses in green?

>> No.54236619

>>54228421
Des Moines

>> No.54236634

>>54236542
>he doesn't know

>>54236619
Boulder is better

>> No.54236648

>>54236559
>>54236619
More decrepit midwestern non-city spam. It has to be a samefag at this point. Theres no way this many people can be this delusional.

>> No.54236650

>>54236619
Des Moines is pretty well situated, yeah

>> No.54236793

>>54228620
Galveston doesn't look anything like that

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>>54236619
I like Des Moines and Iowa in general, great suburbs, great place to raise kids, affordable, but it's not going to be anything different than what it is - a minor league town in the middle of nowhere. Downtown has no one living in it and it's not walkable at all. It's still perfectly fine if you're ok with a simple suburban life.

>>54236634
Boulder is 5x the price of Des Moines.

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>>54236619
Des Moines is the most depressing and soulless place I have ever been, you niggers here shit on Amarillo but somehow excuse this globohomo concrete blocks of a "city"

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>>54236981
>plain bagel

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>>54236981
You think this is LESS depressing than Des Moines?

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>>54237040
Amarillo
>Gun rights
>Plenty of land to roam
>No big city faggots for hundreds of miles

Des Moines
>Globohomo slave training aka "State University"
>Buildings are majority prefabricated yiddish scams
>Land is overvalued college/"big" city garbage

>> No.54237141

>>54236981
>>54237128
Post a tip thread bagel anon

>> No.54237152

>>54233719
>want to be somwhere near Rittenhouse though.
Would recommend anon, there's some comfy colonial houses

>> No.54237210

>>54237128
I feel like you're overestimating the connection between Des Moines and Iowa State. Ames is definitely a town that's distinct from its larger neighbor

>> No.54237212

>>54237128

I love bagels, Jews are cool in my book because of bagels. I remember when I had my first one, it was a game changer

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>>54237128
There's no way you're talking about Amarillo TX.

And what university are you referencing in Des Moines? Drake? That's a small private school. Iowa State is 45 minutes north.

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>>54237128
Holy fuck this is dystopian.

>> No.54237348

>>54232526
>>54232564
>>54232618
>>54232564
>People have been saying this all throughout the 2010s

people have been trying to say this since the late 90s, if not earlier. The Detroit People Mover, a monorail, was built in the late 80s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_People_Mover).). This was supposed to revitalize downtown Detroit, and make it cool and hip again so all the trendy young people would move there. It never happened. I believe it even developed the derogatory nickname of "The Colored People Mover". It only went around the core of downtown Detroit, and did not extend to anywhere deep within the city, let alone suburbs.

Anyway, Detroit also demolished most of their vacant housing in the 2000s under Kwame Kilpatrick. So yeah, there's a lot of cheap property in Detroit, but literally thousands of mid century homes were demolished due to abandonment. They demolished them because gangs used them as crackhouses/traphouses and frequently burned them down causing damage and wasting city resources. So it was deemed more economical to simply destroy swaths of 20th and 19th century home architecture. But that's Detroit. It's 80% black.

>> No.54237370

>>54233162
Minneapolis actually seems really nice to me, but the most turbo-lib normies I've ever met have come from Minneapolis. Their response to Floyd's death didn't surprise me, I just don't understand why they are so cucked.

>> No.54237384

>>54228421
>But these are basically all played out. Theyre all unaffordable now.
Not true with Dallas

>> No.54237388

>>54233402
>I don't know of any other city in this country where you are a 10 minute walk from 3 major casinos, all 4 major sports teams, and 5 concert halls/theatres.

do you want downtown Detroit to simply be a playground for goyim like Las Vegas or Times Square, NYC? Detroit was once a pinnacle of civilization. It deserves better.

>> No.54237433

>>54236403
>The pump is out of steam

that's what I'm saying, my point is that since it's out of steam, it's no the next boom-town

>> No.54237442

>>54236619
Des Moines is like Wichita but whiter and lower crime. It's not bad. It's a decent little place. There's enough cool people, but it's just not that much going on. Good place to raise a family, but just not very exciting.

>> No.54237456

>>54237388
>do you want there to be things to do in Detroit?

Is this a real question?

>> No.54237517

>>54228421
I don't know, anon. I don't think cities are all they're cracked up to be anymore. I moved to Charlotte, NC about a year and a half ago, and there isn't much keeping me here. It's a city of 800k people and there just isn't much to do. And I grew up in a rural town with a population of 3k my entire life. I mean I am really depressed and a NEET rn, but I don't know if I'd be content living anywhere in the USA. I visited NYC last year and I barely lasted 2 days. It was an actual shithole. Sure it might have had, "stuff to do," but I can't say that any of it was worth all the enormous amount of cons with existing in NYC.

I don't know maybe I'm just naive, because I am only 23 and just learning what the world is. I see humanity and I think we could be so much more. America, to me, just feels like a giant strip mall, and that feeling exists everywhere I go. We have made the world look so ugly. People love to flex their cars, but humans were MEANT to walk. And trains really aren't that bad. That's the biggest pro of living in a city. Trains are comfortable to ride. Stress-free. You ride stress-free to your destination. When I think of a civilization that has reached the moon, I look at planet Earth and I feel like we have stagnated. The only place I would truly like to live is Hawaii. And the world clearly seems to get the appeal of a simple island life, because it costs more than NYC to live there. And they don't even have trains. It's a car-dependent hellhole.

But anyway, what is the next US city to blow up? Probably cities near the Great Lakes. Unironically, cities such as Minneapolis and Detroit. This is because of global warming. As the earth heats up, cities near large bodies of water will likely thrive. Do I want to live in those cities? Not particularly. Cities are loud. That's a universal trait they all have in common. And if you don't like noise, you won't like cities.

>> No.54237582
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I shouldn't give you retards this much go ahead but I've seen enough people mention it so I guess the cat is out of the bag on this one. It's somewhere that most do not expect, and that's the point. Every single city for the most part in this thread has already had their run, and that's the entire reason why this next "triangle" of power is emerging.

I have a lot of connections to real estate out in the midwest, and the Columbus/Cleveland/Pittsburgh triangle metro is exploding (literally like train ha). This is still pretty under wraps, as in most of the big boys are in the accumulation phase over there. A few companies have been making mass land purchases on large swaths of land all along 70 for redevelopment. Intel along with other tech companies are opening large warehouse and manufacturing plants within this triangle and the boom in the next decade is going to be immeasurable. A different kind of tech boom, one more hardware than software based. A lot of very important firms are placing large bets on this triangle in the coming decade, and none of it is really being reported on or revealed, they really don't want normies to make it.

The reason this is really happening there is because they need that access to the lakes. The water situation in the southwest is unsustainable for people, let alone large factories, we are practically at our limit with water.

I have been considering looking into purchasing some property out there, it's insanely cheap even close to the cities and I think that's exactly the scenario they want, it's a perfect storm for immense real estate gains in 3 metropolitan areas, near a future tech hub, acting as a tech "bridge" between the midwest and the east coast.

>> No.54237615
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San diego

>> No.54237622

mexico

>> No.54237635

Jesus fuck this thread is long how am I supposed to read all this

>> No.54237636

>>54228421
I'm gonna say Columbus or anywhere in North Carolina, really.

>> No.54237642

Missoula, Montana

>> No.54237650

>>54237635
kek i was interested in the OP and got a little ways down before i realized the same thing. fuck it im going to bed.

>> No.54237656

>>54237582
The only lake it's near is Erie, which is by far the smallest and shittiest of the Great Lakes. The water literally turns toxic every summer. Huron has 7x the water, Michigan has 10x the water, and Superior has 25x the water.

>> No.54237693

>>54237656
Catching up but It's probably the fact that OH is industry friendly like TX is
None of these companies are opening up anything in blue states

>> No.54237703

>>54236530
>Corpus Christi
bro that place is literally one of the most vile places on the planet

>> No.54237725

>>54236530
You are not wrong about the dakotas.
housing is beyond fucked though, they're still in peak mania - there's a reason I left.
a house on my childhood street sold for double the comps at 800k, my parents built a similar place in the 90s for 150k and it's worth maybe 350k now.

>> No.54237750

>>54232525
>giant Chicago suburb
Confirmed for never having been to Orange County or the Chicago suburbs. Faggot.

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>>54228421
are cities going to have to be manufacturing based? If everything can be done via skype then why have to come into the office? I would rather live rural and they could even pay me less so I do not have to commute. What am I missing here?

>> No.54237790

>>54234010
I'm one of them! But we're full, fuck off yankee carpetbaggers. Try Ohio or something, otherwise I'll be cutting you off in traffic.
>t. Tampa native

>> No.54237795

>>54228421
Las Vegas? Or somewhere small in the South East like Greenville

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this is depressing
it seems like there is nowhere that i'd like to live
i'm finally going to be able to afford to buy a shitbox in some shithole city in the midwest or south but i can't find any city that i'd ever want to live

>> No.54237800

>>54228421
I just wish I had a nice woman to bring me coffee

>> No.54237809

>>54237582
But I thought OH was full of retardeds

>> No.54237889

>>54237750
From Chicago and have worked out of Long Beach. I used to jokingly refer to Orange County as "Schaumberg By The Sea". An overrated hideous sprawl of a cement jungle just like 98% of America. Yeah you got an ocean and some palm trees, big fucking whoop, so do lots of other places on the planet. Places like Croatia are literally identical to Southern California without all of Southern California's bullshit problems and hideous suburban sprawl, and for a fraction of the price. Stay mad, retard.

>> No.54237904

>>54237796
Move overseas, dont just walk out this country- run.

>> No.54237924

>>54237582
>I have a lot of connections to real estate out in the midwest

So you run in a circle of con-artists and marketing gurus. This is all I need to see to know this "Triangle Metro Area" is all fake hype.

>> No.54237938

>>54237763
Rural areas won't really explode until self driving cars are common and thus 100mph travel on interstates is common (speed limits will be raised for autonomous vehicles). When you can live 40 miles away from downtown and be there in less than a half hour, things will change. Downtowns and cities are still necessary for dating and socializing. Virtual doesn't cut it, and if tons of people move to rural areas then they aren't by definition rural anymore. But when you can live way outside the city but go to and fro without worrying about a dui or exorbitant Uber cab cost, rural living will skyrocket

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54237959

I've just been hearing around the proverbial grapevine that Tampa is one of the fastest, or at least projected to be the fastest growing city in the next 5-10 years. Well I guess I can give credence to that, since I just literally moved here after getting a new job.

I'm rebooting myself into the maritime industry, so I don't know exactly how big it is here for the commercial side of merchant marines, but I know that the hospitality/passenger side of it is definitely big. And I think I heard something about accounting being a growing profession here, and in Florida at large too.

I dunno. I like it here. Beats my shitty do-nothing NM city where I'm from with literally no opportunities. But it is definitely more expensive. I'd say middle range of "high", certainly no San Fran or fucking Manhattan that's for sure, but still higher than I'd prefer.

God, this real estate bullshit is pissing me off. THE FUCKING RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH.

>> No.54237973

>>54237959
If youre in the Merchant Marine then wtf are you doing living in the US still? Are you retarded? Move overseas.

>> No.54237979

>>54237973
I need to get experience, bro. I'm just starting out. No one overseas is going to hire me as I am. Too risky.

>> No.54237987

>>54237973
Ah, I see, good luck, anon.

>> No.54237996

>>54237938
>Rural areas won't really explode until self driving cars are common

So youre waiting for a miracle to happen?

>> No.54238017

>>54237987
Yeah thanks. I think it's a great time to get into the maritime industry, since they're in a pretty big worker glut from everyone I've talked to in the industry, including multiple captains. Maritime shipping accounts for the vast majority of global shipping, and the oil must always be flowing, so these jobs ain't going away anytime soon, if ever. There's just a sort of vacuum right now, and like everyone else, all these companies are refusing to provide pay which keeps pace with this horrible inflation and real estate bubble nonsense, so it's no wonder they can't find willing workers.

But I think there's going to be a turnaround within the next 5-10 years, so going back to what I said above, I think now is the perfect time to enter into the merchant marines. The industry is in the proverbial "dip", as it were.

>> No.54238060

>>54237973
>>54237987
>>54237996
>55 post and adding nothing to the discussion
lmao sad life of a troll

>> No.54238082

>>54238017
Join a union. Thats the best, if not only, way to earn a good living as a Merchant Marine.

>> No.54238105

>>54238060
Yeah bro, just saving people lives out here from dumping their life savings into shitholes like Detroit or Cincinnati based on the sketchy advice of pajeet-tier, con-artist real estate agents shilling their scam garbage on /biz/. It's a thankless job but somebody has got to do it.

>> No.54238117

>Chicago
>highest taxes, highest union salaries, largest pensions, worst credit score for a municipality
>having a future
kek

>> No.54238147

>>54232256
once the lake dries up salt lake city is extra mega fucked

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>>54232767

Yup, when it's at it's bottom that's when they build new infrastructure.

When it's falling, it's just like buying into a bear market.

>> No.54238315

>>54229873
Cheap and city and jobs may be all it needs. Cities aren't where large families live. It's for young professionals.
Go there. Work til you're 28, save and invest, find a wife then fuck off to your idyllic home.

>> No.54238383

>Pittsburgh
>Cleveland
>Cincinnati
>Columbus
Screenshot this

>> No.54240207

>>54238105
>57 pbtid
>Every single city is going to heckin collapse
You added nothing to this discussion because your take is MUH FOREIGN ESCAPE PLAN EVERY AMERICAN CITY IS BAD HECKIN COLLAPSE BRO

Why don't you make a thread called "where should I go that's not the US" and see how that thread goes instead of shitting up what should have been a good multi day thread that I bookmark for later reading, but your presence throughout this thread is so fucking gay that my homophobic tendencies causes me to stray away from this conversation because I can't stand talking to faggots

>> No.54240336

Cleveland here. Pittsburgh and Cleveland are literally third world warzone tier hell scapes full of nigs. Columbus used to be good but Clinton or Bongo realized it wasn't good optics to have a thriving all white metro area and dumped tens of thousands of somalis there (the most feral of nigs) and ruined that too.

That said there are some nice more rural communities 30-40 minutes outside the city. The train derailment in east Palestine kinda fucked that up too though.

>> No.54240390

>>54232526
>There will be some kind of longing to restore it to the industrial capitol it used to be in the 40s and 50s.

What people don't grasp is that the cheap energy (high quality coal in the right place) that fuelled the industry is now gone. America can never reindustrialise.

>> No.54240398

>>54228927
Chicago has a boatload of other problems, such as it's incredibly boring location near absolutely nothing. Property taxes are insane too and it has been a blue state for a long while, so I can't imagine it's friendly towards growing industries like TX is.

>>54232526
Detroit is probably going to greatly benefit from the changes coming to Ohio but by Detroit I mean the suburbs and maybe a few gentrified downtown districts. The issue with Detroit is that it has that stereotypical American suburb sprawl that's designed for cars and only cars, and it's kinda off the beaten path in an area that was only valuable in times past.

>>54232882
Philadelphia has been growing like mad because it has the blueprint for that "hybrid city", a VERY dense center with suburb sprawl around it. City layouts like LA and Phoenix will be a thing of the past as more people want both the urban options but the ability to also drive simultaneously, and not just have one or the other.

>>54233651
>>54233695
Plain and simple FL guys, Florida is full. Like from a logistical standpoint unless they rezone some areas Florida is literally full full. The only thing left for FL to do is start increasing density but I don't know if the states infrastructure can handle that, and the local residents won't want it either. That's why the panhandle is filling up, because the rest is full lol.

>>54236559
>>54237582
Unironically this is the correct answer, the OH area has been growing at an insane pace, and the OH government is doing everything they can to push it faster. They have been pumping so much money into this region in terms of highway expansion, infrastructure, etc, that it's impossible to not see the writing on the wall. It's not the "Midwest" but as this says, it's the "bridge" to the Midwest. I think Chicago will see growth but that growth will be "bridged" to the east coast via the OH economic boom. I also know some big time investors taking bets on this area as well.

>> No.54240420

>>54237433
You have the reading comprehension of a black teenager.

>> No.54240742

>>54228421
My money's on Columbus
>plenty of jobs
>Intel spending $20 billion to build a massive chip plant just outside of the city
>low cost of living, especially when compared to other cities
>is pretty moderate, politically speaking
>all the tiny towns around are slowly losing their younger people as more and more decide to move there

>> No.54240930

>>54229264
Retarded nigger

>> No.54240947

>>54232525
Lmao you know a lot of those houses are old as fuck. You are a fucking brainlet.

>> No.54241066

>>54231884
This is the dark horse. Biloxi, MS and it's Metro area. They actually have the second biggest casino hub after Vegas, believe it or not. They also have gov't ship building contracts and an international trading port. The weather is generally pretty good except for the odd hurricane. The main issue with that area is that it has massive brain drain to other states which already have a tech or developed business sector. But if some decide to move there or start up, it could rapidly snowball.

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>>54237924
>>54238383
>>54240336
>>54240398
>>54240742

The amount of zoning hearings that have been going on within this triangle is insane. People are buying entire farms outright. Consider how far and wide the red spots would be if this was a view of the Dallas/San Antonio/Houston triangle as well.

I'm originally from NY living in Phoenix currently, and the amount of people talking about Ohio is staggering. From the east coast all the way to out here, not a day goes by without a conversation about "the next hub" and every time, without question, Ohio is the name. From every day normies to property owners, Ohio has been on everyone's mind for the past few years and as I said in that last post. For two good reasons, it acts as a bridge between the midwest and the east coast, OH is a red state, likely friendly to incoming businesses, and easy access to the lakes as well. No as someone mentioned lake erie doesn't have the most water but it's the only red great lake state.

Really I want everyone except mr.60posttroll to consider the above, I wish for more based bros to make it, I know this isn't exactly insider info but it seems the only people who are noticing are those from Ohio while they kinda keep the rest of us in the dark. Sure normies in Phoenix are "talking" about Ohio but that's just it, by the time the normies down here notice that Ohio is the next move, the property will already be 5x what it is now and everyone from the southwest will be buying the top.

>> No.54241269

>>54241069
Curious as to why or how all 3 of these cities ended up having their niggers focused to the east side of the town.

Not complaining that's actually bullish for the area, if you can easily avoid the no-go zones, and know where the boundaries are, it makes people feel a lot safer about an area. Even blacks who make it want to avoid these areas, and the issue with a lot of other cities is that you literally have to drive down the middle of some of the worst areas in town to get to where you need to go, which inevitably makes you a target eventually.

>> No.54241282

>>54228421
>Theyre all unaffordable now.
Idk im in Dallas and still seems like plenty of space and massive construction everywhere still. Probably got a few more years here. Theyll just keep extending north to Sherman.
>>54228597
This OP. Anything in the southeast basically. As in south of DC.

>> No.54241305

>>54237370
>I just don't understand why they are so cucked.
Mostly lutheran swedes and Norwegians.

>> No.54241408

>>54241282
Train already left the stations for the southeast, look at Raleigh, cardboard boxes going for $750k

I agree with the OP, I don't see Raleigh as "booming", I see it as already approaching its peak. I want to be early, not getting in as we approach the top. And that's so so many housing markets right now, so many have already ran the course and people are still calling these places boomtowns even though they have been exponentially growing over the past 6-8 years. People have to admit the boom is over eventually. Like I said, $750k for a cardboard mcmansion is not my idea of getting in before a boom.

>> No.54241443

>>54228620
Galveston is a crack den

>> No.54241481

>>54241443
Thats the point, find a city that hasn't been revitalized by tech $ yet

>> No.54241535

It's over. You're too late. American cities already reached their growth plateau in 2021 when the housing market got eaten up. It's only downhill from here, with urban decay and crime skyrocketing everywhere.

>> No.54241534

>>54228620
He’s really not wrong. It’s seen a lot of growth over the past couple years. A lot of money is being pumped in to the island. Now is the time to invest. Property is under valued for what it is.

>> No.54241574

>>54241408
Maybe alabama. Some of the space force stuff is moving there. I think huntsville. Oklahoma is cheap still and only majorly developed outside of OK city. So maybe tulsa is a good mid tier. Other applachian/redneck states like arkanas or missouri I guess.

>> No.54241587

>>54241535
Yeah probably but if I lived my life based on blackpill doom posting I'd just sit in mums basement all day scared to ever do anything.

If that world happens then we are all fucked and it won't matter if I bought property in Columbus or Detroit or Los Angeles at that point everything would be worthless across the board.

>> No.54241991

>>54241574
Fuck off Huntsville is full. I swear to fuck you out of towners are ruining this place.

>> No.54242037

>>54228421
Tulsa. You work for me now.

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>>54241066
>The main issue with that area is that it has massive brain drain

The issue is that Mississippi is the blackest state in the country, and Gulfport/Biloxi area is the blackest part of the gulf coast region with the worst beaches. You want to be east of Mobile and not in Pensacola.

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>>54228573
Fuck off we are full

>> No.54242724

Dayton and Cincinatti Ohio

>> No.54242754

>>54242724

South/Central Ohio in general is set up well for growth

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>>54241991
You think it's bad now, just wait. Huntsville/Madison is going to turn into Austin, TX 2.0. Dem voting government contractors will continue to flood in. Alabama will turn blue and God will curse us for turning from his light. Traffic will get worse and worse. Home and rental prices will continue to rise. Gun control and higher taxes. Mo' money fo' dem programs.
All for economic growth in the short term.