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The Fed is just gona keep raising rates even though we just had several of the largest regional banks in the Us fail and their plan to allow this is to print 350 billion dollars for the share holders and liquidate FDIRC small holders insurance to pay for multi billion dollar venture capitalist bank accounts??
Who the fuck exactly this is a viable fucking plan for the laid out goals of the fed???
At minimum
At bare fucking MINIMUM this undo basically everything the fed has (ineffectually) done to tighten the money supply over the last year and bring us back to the double didget cpi and ppi of last summer.
The fuck are they genuinely thinking?
Their role is to keep inflation at 2% and unemployment bellow 4%.
This shit will obviously keep inflation out of their target and probably drive enough mid cap companies out of business unemployment start’s shooting up as well.
What the fuck
>inb4 “lol yeah the fed serves bankers first not Americans imagine that”
Yeah no shit but even Berake their was the fucking ARGUMENT all this was being done to keep unemployment from
>”rising further”
Again,
Unemployment is at an all time LOW
The fed is RAISING interest rates to “combat inflation” while printing hundreds of billions
What
The
FUCK

>> No.54095835

>>54095810
The regional VC banks are already insolvent. so Keep jacking them rates up. The weak ones will get gobbled up and the strong will survive

>> No.54095836

>>54095810
>The Fed is just gona keep raising rates
Yep. People calling for a pivot, and they may be right, but if the Fed is raising rates then it's most definitely not a pivot. Take all claims with a grain of salt.

>> No.54095844

Ukraine needs our money more than we do you ungrateful fuck.

>> No.54095868

>>54095810
>to print 350 billion dollars for the share holders
that is not what is happening

>> No.54095880

>>54095810
They are not printing new money, smoothbrain. The money supply is shrinking.

>> No.54095883

>>54095810
Not the federal reserves job to keep shitty banks run by retards to stop from failing

>> No.54095884

>>54095810
What are they going to do? Bankrupt all their banks by raising rates then bail them all out? Lol

>> No.54095896

>>54095835
This. The garbage speculation economy is being obliterated and it's a good thing.

>> No.54095907

literally don't care one bit, just need a hot woman to fart in my face

>> No.54095919
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>>54095810
Jack up rates, bail out the retards who didn’t gamble well

>> No.54095925

>>54095907
that sounds dangerously deflationary

>> No.54095927

>>54095810
The bankers want to crash the markets
JP Morgan is being investigated for its ties to Epstein the last few years
It’s no surprise they started crashing the markets when those investigations

>> No.54095951

>>54095844
yes, the government should be giving me all those spare tanks and ammo in storage instead of giving them to ukraine and stop driving up the need to replace our old shit with new shit aka simulating the economy. i'll make way better use of an f22, im starving here.

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>>54095907

>> No.54096033

>>54095810
The goal is to stop chainlink from pumping. Chainlink is the single most important invention since the internet or electricity, they will do whatever it takes to suppress link.

>> No.54096042
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54096042

>>54095844
Anon, Our aid to ukraine is in hardware. We send ten bajillion dollars in bullets, beans, and bandages, not literal pallets of cash.
>>54095951
I wouldn't complain if they gave me a tank.

>> No.54096053

>>54095810
hundreds of billions arent being printed. this whole thing was because vcs were scared they were going to lose 20-30% of their money, since thats about how much the bank had after everything got sold.

>> No.54096058

>>54095810
>pivotfags
Not even once

>> No.54096061

>>54096033
this
finally somebody understands what's going on

>> No.54096096

>>54096042
>Anon, Our aid to ukraine is in hardware. We send ten bajillion dollars in bullets, beans, and bandages, not literal pallets of cash.
you're a moron if you think we aren't sending cash to ukraine
the US is literally funding every aspect of the ukraine government right now

>> No.54096114

>>54096042
>not literal pallets of cash

>> No.54096115
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>>54095907
If you are willing to negotiate on the definition of "hot" and the definition of "woman", this can be arranged.

>> No.54096123

>>54095810
The unstated, but actual goal of the Fed is to create wealth consolidation. Bluntly, its purpose is to churn out trillionaires and it is absolutely achieving that goal. Burning down the smaller banks, killing the sprouting businesses, puts them up to be devoured by the bigger and more established businesses. It's all working as intended. You are legitimately a cancer to the wealthy and they are using the Fed as their chemotherapy to cleanse you.

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>>54096096
Comparatively, the physical money we send to Ukraine is almost non existent to my understanding. I understood most of the money was either in military hardware, or basic materials. If you could point me to something that shows otherwise, I would greatly appreciate it. (Yes I know the news is heavily censored about this, but this is something they probably gloat about.)

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>>54095810
I hope they raise rates to 10%

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>>54095835
>>54095896
Fine if you want to play it this way but still makes ZERO fucking sense to dump a couple hundred billion into the economy in an attempt to
>>>””””weed out bullshit””””
The same dipshits will be given their money back and doubtlessly dumb it direclty in some equally retarded intrinsically inflationary pump and dump project
This makes no fucking sense
And there is no serious way to spin it as if it does

>> No.54096365

>>54096123
Se
>>54096333
>>>333

>> No.54096378

>>54095810
>Yeah no shit but even Berake their was the fucking ARGUMENT all this was being done to keep unemployment from
They just don't care that much about having an "argument" anymore. Their "argument" is that they know better than you and if you question them then you are a conspiracy theorist, an extremist, a racist, a misogynist, an antisemite, and probably a Russian bot too.

>> No.54096410

>>54096033
Now we're getting somewhere

>> No.54096450

>>54095810
Why don’t they just raise interest rates to 20%? Seems like a win-win situation:

>> No.54096501

>>54096378
Honestly this but it’s just kinda striking all the same man
It’s the sort of arrogance you expect out of 1700s French aristocrats not representatives of a nominally “democratic” government
And just like them these fucks will turn around and wonder at the rise of
>”political extremism”
Absolute late Hapsburg shit

>> No.54096504

>>54095907
It might be hot in your incel fever dream, but when it happens, it kills the attraction.

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>>54095810
This is how they "fight inflation." Money cannot be inflated if there is no money. They think they can burn down the forest faster than they can plant trees.

>> No.54096544

>>54096042
>I wouldn't complain if they gave me a tank.
you'd probably find a way

>> No.54096914

>>54095810
1. Inflation and money supply, while related, are not the same thing
2. FDIC insurance payments is not new money
3. FDIC insurance payments is not new wealth
4. FDIC insurance payments is not inflationary
Joe Smith has $200k of cash in the bank. JS has no plans on spending it, hence it being in the bank. The bank goes tits up and JS gets a payment from the FDIC. JS still has $200k cash. JS still does not plan on spending it. JS puts it in another bank. The $200k isn't used to purchase CPI goods. The $200k doesn't enter the economy. Inflation remains the same.

>> No.54096989

It's not the FED's fault this bank went insolvent. It's the bank's fault for retardedly overleveraging itself. There's no crisis. It's like standing in the middle of the highway and then being surprised when a truck runs you over. You had every opportunity to get out of the way and you didn't.

>> No.54097020

>>54095810
Yes because if they don't inflation will be out of fucking control and your money will be worth even less than if they let banks collapse..
Keeping the usd as the sovereign currency of the world is THE top priority. Everything else can burn, since it would burn anyway if that changed.

>> No.54097038

>>54096914
Wrong
>BANK GOES TITS UP
>JOHN SMITH SEEING SHTF TAKES THE $200,000 HE WASN'T GOING TO SPEND AND TURNS IT INTO A COMMODITY
>INFLATION GOES FUCKING NUCLEAR BECAUSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SPENT BY SITTING IN THE BANK OR LOST DUE TO THE BANK GOING TITS UP ARE NOW FLOWING AT A FAST AS SHIT RATE

>> No.54097037

>>54095835
>>54095880
>>54095883
>>54095896
/THREAD

Nothing more needs to be said.

>> No.54097155

>>54096914
FDIC wouldnt be able to cover all the losses generated by this. Where do they raise the capital to cover losses in excess of their own budget? Not trying to attack your position, just trying to get a better understanding of this situation.

>> No.54097178

>>54097020
Also it is not their job to care about the job market. Maybe they always mention it, but it isn't.

>> No.54097322

>>54096914
>>54096989
>>54097020
Literally all of you write like you are paid to
Speak like a fucking human being if you want people to take you seriously

>> No.54097360

>>54096989
Sort of. I don't diasagree persay, except that enticing people to take overleveraged positions has always been a goal of the Fed, IMHO. They had been lowering rates reliably for about 50 years before this, making it profitable to be overleveraged while removing much of the risk by providing bailouts when needed. I don't think it was unreasonable for people to expect that trend to continue.

>> No.54097376

>>54096914
It sounds like Joe Smith didn't learn a f*cking thing, if he puts his money back into another bank.

>> No.54097428

>>54095810
They're gonna pay face value for the shit-bonds. The real bailout hasn't even happened yet, but it's already fixed in writing.

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>>54095810
>something broke

>> No.54098211
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>>54095810
>Unemployment is at an all time LOW

>> No.54098911

>>54096033

Newfags will think this is a funny bit and not the 100% honest to God truth.

>> No.54098995

>>54096042
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/12/23/house-spending-1-7-trilion-ukraine-shutdown/10932520002/

Where are the billions of dollars going then?

>> No.54099042

The fed lives in a fantasy where they can fix inflation without breaking anything. They're going to continually bail out anything that is stressed then look the other way while inflation returns

>> No.54099061

>>54095810
All the banks are inherently insolvent by nature of being banks

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>>54096522
Anon, the entire issue is that the dollar is a global reserve currency. You can't just steal it from everyone without hurting demand, and thus, the dollar's value. Raising interest rates slows lending institution bullshittery (or at least keeps it from putting "money" in circulation", but it can't do anything about the global demand for dollars.

>> No.54099121

>>54095810
>Unemployment is at an all time LOW
As it always is before a collapse

>> No.54099163

>>54096042
But wait… who pays for the hardware then? Is that free?

>> No.54099188

>>54096042
Like the free vaccines! Okay I got it now! Let’s go Ukraine!! Trust the science!

>> No.54099199

I think trump put powell in there to crash the economy and destroy the fed
whether or not it pans out is anyone's guess

>> No.54099223

>>54095810
Inflation is high. They have no choice

>> No.54099244

>>54095810
who cares about these shit insolvent fucks. i hope the fed tries to crash the market with no survivors. the strong will out

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54099298

m8s just how far can Clown World stretch? Every week its even more retarded

>> No.54099340

>>54095880
retard

>> No.54099367

>>54095810
The goal is to enslave humanity you fucking retard. This will further shell out the middle class and hand more assets to banks. Then once that is done, they just need to destroy the banks, take their assets, and you have the coomunism right-wang nutjobs were screeching about since 'nam.

>> No.54099421

>>54097360
You know you're right. Hiking rates from here on would be a great way to first kill the middle class, then the banks. Maybe we'll just see a major change in trend in interest rates here.

>> No.54099565

>>54096033
Why not just feed Sir Gay a spoiled Big Mac and be done with it? Why all the theatricals? I think he called this Quantitative Eating but don't quote me

>> No.54099779

>>54095810
Look. Basically I'm just gonna hike it (the rate!!) I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know..... UGH I know..... It's just that I'm hiking it is all!!!

>> No.54101317

>>54096914
Inflation IS simply an increase in the money the money supply. Nothing else causes inflation. Cost Push/Demand Pull is simply a rise in the price of a particular item which may affect the costs of other items.

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>>54101317
>Inflation IS simply an increase in the money the money supply.

>> No.54101503

>>54099163
>>54099188
you retard the point is that this doesn't add to new inflation because it's already been paid for

>> No.54101558

>>54095810
Lawl I hope so.

>> No.54101594

>>54101503
Youre ignoring the secondary psychological precedent this creates. If the FDIC can now insure an infinite amount of money, what stops the banks from making even more completely asinine investments? This speculation feeds into inflation.

>> No.54101614

>>54101317
According to the Austrian school, yes. It can also be a monetary phenomenon. It is possible to increase money supply and not see prices inflate. Anons should have the mental flexibility to look through both perspectives.

>> No.54101662

>>54101594
The bank going out of business and investors getting totaled will stop them.

>> No.54101679

>>54095810
retard con scam "silly zog valley" bank hands out boatloads of cash to moronic tech charlatons and grifters who make literally nothing of value and rightfully eats shit.

rates need to keep climbing if only to halt this type of dipshit tech fag behavior, the tech industry is single handedly responsible for the shit state of the united states across the board

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>>54096914
FDIC literally doesn't have the cash to cover EVERY asset in Silicon Valley let alone other banks.

>> No.54101783

>>54096033
It's not even about stopping link from poomping. It's about stopping us from making it. This is war and the second we get to squirm out from under the boot our nobody meme magic power will consume (((them))) in a righteous holocaust that never happened before, but should have.

>> No.54101820

>>54096501
Who do you think *owns* democracy? Hello.

>> No.54102018

>>54097322
this
these people are such obvious shills it's insane

>> No.54102038

>>54095810
No the Fed realized that they are going to get a lot of banks killed because their is a disease in the banking system caused by 20 years of unprecedented low interest. So to get around this they are promising to protect depositors and allow the banks to die in the carnage.

Also it's deflationary in a weird way since the Fed isn't printing new money they are replacing money that should have technically been there but was loaned out. The money had already been created in the loans that the bank had given out.

>>54096058
Pivotfags don't even know what they are asking for... or are literal Jews who want gibs.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/fed-funds-rate-history/

Here is a history of Fed Rates from 1992-2023. Now put your thinking cap on and look at when shit started to get worse. Let me give you a hint it was when the Fed dropped rates below 3%.

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54102050

>>54095844
But we get hundreds of videos of Ural sodomites getting vaporized, so I'd say it was money well-spent

>> No.54102083

>>54095810
The current bank crisis has nothing to do with interest rates. You fags know nothing about finance.

>> No.54102094

>>54095810
They arent printing money to cover the accounts, you fucking retard. They are instituting a special assessment against other banks to pay for it.

>> No.54102114

>>54097038
Money in a bank does more to increase inflation then what you just said anon. It actually forces the banks to hand out less loans. Less Money in bank accounts is deflationary because it means banks can hand out less loans meaning new money cannot be created through lending.

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>>54096033
The federal reserve and the Bulgarians linked up?

>> No.54102440

>>54101614
Only if there is actual economic production or you have control of the velocity of money. With the later, I suppose that could be achieved during rationing or with a CBDC but otherwise that money has to go somewhere. If you make money with no economic production behind it, prices will rise as more money chases the same amount of goods causing artificial demand and therefore inflation.

>> No.54102471

>>54096042
Those are unironically worth more than cash right now. Wish I had some of that hardware...

>> No.54102491

>>54101503
Until we have to manufacture more to replenish our weapons deficit.

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>>54095810
The plan is to make you poor and the (((rich))) richer.

>> No.54102521

>>54096501
>arrogance you expect out of 1700s French aristocrats
French blue blood here. Stop slandering us you new world renégat.
We do know better btw.

>> No.54102532

>>54095925
Kek.
Sniff the dip mumu.

>> No.54102609

>>54096033
>Chainlink is the single most important invention since Steel
ftfy

>> No.54102740

>>54095810
Gee, it's almost like we've been subverted by marxists

>> No.54102798

Zank
you
Fer
Praying!

>> No.54102865

>>54095844
>>54095951
>>54096042
I also want a tank, I call second dibs

>> No.54103000

>>54096914
You're wrong. This is highly inflationary. John Smith gave his money to the bank and the bank loaned it out at low interest. Now that money will be loaned out again at the higher rate of interest.

>> No.54103013

>>54102609
Its a little bit better than a butt plug but not by much.
>You keep on betting long on ETH and a couple of autistic Russians. I am sure the most expensive, least efficient, and least secure blockchain in the world will be allowed to control NATO banking communications.

>> No.54103028

>>54102740
Truly

>> No.54103035

>>54095810
They will keep hiking even if multiple G-SIBS go down.

>> No.54103038

>>54097155
It’s simple anon
>ctrl + P

>> No.54103049

>>54095836
The only "people" calling for a pivot are the banks and their friends

>> No.54103068

>>54103000
>Now that money will be loaned out again at the higher rate of interest.
High interest rates lead to deflation since consumer soending decreases. You have it backwards anon.

>> No.54103182

>>54103068 0IQ specimen, what is more inflationary, a high interest loan or no fucking loan at all?
Go neck yourself idiot.

>> No.54103210

>>54103049
>banks and their friends
Fed is literally the friend of the banks, lmao

>> No.54103241

>>54095810
>100 posts
>jeff cox
>(((cox)))
you niggers disappoint me

>> No.54103262

Inflation isn't real.

>> No.54103370

I dont even believe they have the balls to keep raising rates. They should but i doubt it.

>> No.54103455

>>54103370
this
they're bluffing
systemic risk is too great

>> No.54104866

>>54103455
It's the system, or the dollar. They're supposed to protect the dollar, but they sure love their system.

>> No.54106533

>>54103210
No, it's a big shark and the banks are small sharks.

>> No.54106785

Yes they will. Alternatively, they won't. Happy to help.
Nah, the SVB stuff is part of a kike war. Leverage against the fed. Basically trying to bully them into a pivot. Hope it fails and we all literally die. Then we win.

>> No.54106812

>>54095951
t. Hohol shill /pol/tard

>> No.54106864

>>54095810
the FED are doing selective QE by slowly killing/buying out weak banks and printing to cover depositors. there will not be a crash, this is the soft landing.

>> No.54107032

>>54103370
raising rates now would be suicide. the alternative, rampant inflation, is a slower boil that allows them to sniff coke for another quarter or two

>> No.54107069

>>54095810
Interest rates are you bailing the banks out. Every change allows a bank to adjust their margins. Now they're just going to gouge you.

>> No.54107078

>>54101776
Good thing they only have to cover a fraction of it, you fucking moron. SVB was only 2 bil short. They didn't just wake up and say "Oh shit we have 0 dollars! teehee". There's enough assets in reserve to have made holders nearly whole without FDIC filling the gap. All the doomers in this thread are insufferable.

>> No.54107101

>>54095880
Every day someone goes to a bank to get a mortgage new money is being created out of thin air, doesn't matter how high the rates go, fiat is getting worthless and even normies have caught on that

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>>54106812

>> No.54107149

>>54095810
Yes, you wanted your "bailout" and now you got one. Guess what though? We still have to fight inflation, and your "bailout" that we cheered so hard for has only made it worse in that fight against inflation, so rate hikes will have to continue. And when things continue to get worse in the economy, a pivot will come, but it will be out of a last ditch effort to save this shitshow of a circus, and it wont come with the bullish turbo pump that you are desperately hoping for.

>> No.54107155

>>54107101
100% Truth, but M2 is still shrinking:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WM2NS

>> No.54107661

>>54095844
I agree, Ukraine is whiter than America.

>> No.54109477

>>54096333
Checked and correct

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>>54107661
based and true, jack

>> No.54109671

>>54095810
>Unemployment is at an all time LOW
Because people are taking two jobs or have quit searching for a job entirely.

>> No.54109701

>>54095810
>their plan to allow this is to print 350 billion dollars for the share holders
lmao not only is this not true but the number keeps going up but only in posts on this forum lmao

>> No.54109901

>>54095810
Killing all banks while bailing out deposits may be beneficial from a CBDC Build Back Better perspective.

>> No.54110217

>>54095810
>several of the largest regional banks in the Us fail
...

>> No.54110745

>>54106864
You write about economics like you take coco up the ass every morning
Stop talking like the smug faggots who told us it was
>”racist”
To think corona virus was going to become a pandemic and maybe people won’t instinctually believe your full of shit

>> No.54110805

>>54096333
>Pay a few billion you'll get back anyways with rising interest rates
Oh damn man, Fed must be retarded or something. For every dollar they have to print on loan for any bullshit, they will have to raise rates higher to fight inflation. It balances out. The retards will be weeded out.

>> No.54110819

>>54095810
Fuck weak banks, 6% inflation went down from 6.4% and market is pumping baby.

>> No.54110867

>>54096042
>not literal pallets of cash.
Actually, you do. According to the Kiel Institute, the US has committed about $30B in financial aid to Ukraine, and indirectly through the IMF another $10B, as of Jan 15. Total financial aid committed to Ukraine is $79B.

Ukraine's economy is in a brutal tailspin, and the government depends on foreign aid to pay salaries.

Also a lot of the hardware is modern stuff that needs to be replaced one for one: GMLRS, Javelin, Stinger, Excalibur shells, 155mm shells, M777 howitzers, thermal sights, night vision gear, etc.

>> No.54110943

>>54095810
The plan is working. It makes you poor.

>> No.54111066

>>54095951
>this old shit is obsolete, we could never use it to fight russia
>let's send it to ukraine, at least they can use it to fight russia
>breaking our own shit and building it again is stimulus
enormous brain
i've got an even better idea though:
dig a hole, fill it back up, and dig it again
we didn't need that hole, but now we do, and it helps the economy! the taxpayer won't notice a thing

>> No.54111084

>>54096914
>2. FDIC insurance payments is not new money
ITS LITERALLY NEW MONEY.
>GOYIM DEPOSITS MONEY WITH SHECKEL VALLEY BANK
>SHECKEL VALLEY BANK SPENDS ALL OF GOYS FUNDS
>JOHN GOYIM GETS FUNDS BACK VIA FDIC
>EVEN IN YOUR EXAMPLE SHECKEL VALLEY BANK 2 SPENDS THE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY
DOUBLE THE MONEY BRO

>> No.54111155

>>54095810
If you didn't notice already, they began pumping. First Republic Bank crashed and the pre-market value is 50% up from the end of yesterday.

>> No.54111405

>>54096914
>The bank goes tits up and JS gets a payment from the FDIC
you forgot to add that the payment doesn't actually get to Joe Cucked for 30 years

>> No.54111909

>>54095951
Lets just break all the windows in the country too while we're at it! It stimulates the economy after all!

>> No.54111945

>>54095810
Geez, anon go work for the feds and set them straight with all your deep knowledge
LOL

>> No.54112019

>>54095810

Nigger-IQ-take OP

How is some woke bank, too busy to celebrate lesbian pride month, instead of hedging against rising interest rates, more important than millions of americans not able to afford their groceries anymore

please tell me everything you long/short so I can inverse it

>> No.54112031

>>54103013
Do some game theory on assassination smart contracts (in fact just generally smart contracts) and the effects on all existing power structures. You're welcome. And it doesn't habe to be Chainlink per se but the implications are the same.

>> No.54112186

>>54097322
>>54102018
He's wasting his time explaining it to you. You're a /pol/ tourist that just wants to jerk off to a negative event in the hopes of the system burning down.

>> No.54112571

>>54095810
black lives matter retard

>> No.54112624

>>54096033
this is why you should never get stuck holding someone's bags
it's not even about the money. it literally destroys your soul

>> No.54112637

>>54095896
Garbage speculation on fucking bonds bro ......

>> No.54113110
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>>54095880
>They just added $XXXXXXXX dollars by bailing out the depositors and setting precedent to do so for all failed banks' depositors in the future,
>The money supply is shrinking.

>> No.54114719

>>54102521
Blow it out your ass baguette, the rich in France died in a bloody Revolution

>> No.54114811

>>54113110
>They just added $XXXXXXXX dollars
False.

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54114969

>>54099367
unironically this

>> No.54115079

>>54095880
>Fed takes all the assets banks don't want to sell at a loss, and bagholds them

Lel - muh backstop!

>> No.54115367

>>54115079
False.

>> No.54115502

>>54096258
>I understood most of the money was either in military hardware, or basic materials

thats correct. the US is unable to manufacture many new weapons so its sending old stuff from its warehouses.

>> No.54115524

>>54095810
They are thinking fuck your bags deflating the Dollar is more important

>> No.54115548

>>54115367
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bank-term-funding-program.htm

Bit of a nigger, aint ya?

>> No.54115604

>>54096501
>not representatives of a nominally “democratic” government
How so, Athens acted just like this near the end, what makes you think Republics are impervious to the sorts of problems Monarchies have?

>> No.54115637

>>54095810
2% inflation is way too low at this stage of our kiked economic system. 5% should be the goal instead.

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>>54096033
kek

>> No.54115691

>>54114719
No, the smartest bluebloods kept their heads down and watched the middle class fuck up harder than they did over the next two centuries
>>54102521
They will never be able to admit you are better than them. They will try liberalism and communism and kill trillions more before they admit that.

>> No.54115696

>>54112186
Economics is not a science dictated by professional opinion
It is a science dictated by material realities and mechanistic relationships
Good economists don’t spend their fucking time talking about what talking heads on msnbc or the fed chair board have to say nor do they deny direct material realities out of ignorance or ideology
Retards deserve to get called retards and pussises
The soviet economy fell apart regardless of what the “experts” had to say on the matter
Same with the American housing market in 2008

>> No.54115748

>>54115548
Reading comprehension fail.

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54115753

>>54111945
>lol you srsly think le council is le wrong??? XD XD XD
-t literally every retard zealot before every socio-economic collapse in human history

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54115789

>raise rates so assets prices fall then print yourself hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air.
I respect the hustle.

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54115827

>>54110867
Not to mention that Jew Biden recently promised to pay out all Ukrainian military pensions.

>> No.54115858

>>54095810
Baby's first open mouth operations. They're committed to fighting inflation as long as it doesn't have any consequences that could embarrass the current regime.

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54116007

>>54095951
>i'll make way better use of an f22, im starving here
you're gonna eat the f22?

>> No.54116384

>>54115604
Meritocracy I guess
And I wouldn’t say impervious so much as resistant
It just seems like if you have to actually win fucking elections openly saying
>”Fuck you bite a dick”
To the general public is not a smart fuckin way to go
Like again you might be a corrupt piece of shit
But you don’t shit on people you have to appease every 2-4 years explicitly
At least if you give a fuck about reelection

>> No.54116502

>>54095810
You don't seem to understand the situation you're in, unless they keep raising rates they will tank their credit rating and likely default because spending is out of control thanks to more than a decade of low interest rates and idiotic spending which has garnered nothing of value whatsoever.
It's unironically too late.

>> No.54116700

>rent and cost of living has never been higher, justified by the asset bubble
>asset bubble popped
>everyone is getting laid off, no one is hiring, open positions are being closed with no explanation, half the open jobs were resume harvesting scams to begin with and the other half PPP fraud
>costs are never going back down

so is the plan just that bread will be $10 and unemployment will be 50%? Who is going to be paying $2000 a month for rent on a 1 bd apt when everyone is out of work or forced to take shitty 40k survival jobs?

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54117491

>>54116700
>Who is going to be paying
we will, via taxes

>> No.54117614

>>54117491
>jews steal the money, goyim pay to get it back
great system so glad to be a citizen here paying taxes to pedophiles, a boomer somewhere claps and waves a polyester flag

>> No.54118025

Eeeeh Oilbros, wtf is happening? Goldman Sachs said we'll go to 100$.

>> No.54118186

>>54095896
>short term US government treasuries are garbage speculation investments
no. The federal reserve basically gets to crush whatever banks it wants by raising rates and only extending a hand to the banks it chooses.

>> No.54118405

>>54095810
What part of holding hands and running off the financial cliff together don't you understand? This was written in stone after Trump left office and a year of known quantities wrestled things back on track to where China joined. We'd already be there if you hadn't accidentally elected a reality TV host and proceeded to let him run willy nilly with musical chairs in your executive.

Reading the wind, the Fed intentionally fucks this up and slow walks America over the precipice with the other countries. Changing up the gate for where we are with the digital infrastructure to reboot the whole thing. By 2030 most people should be at the point where they're literally begging and complaining that they aren't being shoved in the gilded cage fast enough.

>> No.54118453

>>54117491
There is no reason to do a bank run if all deposits are guaranteed, smoothbrain. By committing to more they end up spending less.

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54118637

>>54118453
Depositors are leaving the smaller regional banks for the megabanks.
That is indeed a run on the small banks. Small banks will have to realize losses, unless the money-printer-backed FDIC steps in, which they will.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/too-big-fail-banks-flooded-deposits-bank-run-drains-small-bank-cash

>> No.54118805

>a dozen banks just folded under
>meanwhile my bank announced they're increasing my savings account interest rate another quarter percent, after just raising it last month

So are we venezuela now?

>> No.54118940

>>54118637
>unless the money-printer-backed FDIC steps in
They already stepped in. There is nothing else for them to do. Banks needing liquidity can borrow against their hold-to-maturity assets at par.

>> No.54119168

>>54118940
the outcome of these banks falling hasn't even begun to materialize.
and whos lending that money? taxpayers

>> No.54119326

>>54095810
Yep. The poor get the bill, and the rich get the money.

>> No.54119371

>>54095868
>that is not what is happening
That is EXACTLY what is happening.

>> No.54119444

>>54119168
They can't fail for the reasons SVB failed. All loans are backed by risk-free assets.

>> No.54119458

>>54095810
>Unemployment is at an all time LOW
>The fed is RAISING interest rates to “combat inflation” while printing hundreds of billions
Because all the people on this board, reddit and the internet. All the seething overpaid millennials and retarded zoomers, will not ever do a single fucking thing against the literal 70 year old boomers ruining their lives and that's what they fucking deserve because anyone who says "these guys have ruined your life by promising you socialism and then shitting on you" immediately gets attacked by 40 year olds who still think it's 2005 and that socialism is the best ism because they never grew out of their college phase.

>> No.54119522

The fed will raise rates
Bank depositors will be bailed out
At no cost to the taxpayer
You will own nothing
You will be happy

>> No.54119561

>>54101594
>what stops the banks from making even more completely asinine investments?
The bank remains imploded retard, shareholders are zeroed.

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>>54095951

>> No.54119791

>>54095810
Someone do the "SO YOU BE SAYIN" *smacks lips* meme to this, please...

>> No.54120078

>>54101783
Based as fuck. Though actually the holocaust did happen, it was just done by Hadrian more than a millennium ago and not Hitler

>> No.54120086

>>54118405
>tfw trump genuinely is the only way to shake up (((their))) plans
Q-Boomers we’re unironically right
Holly shit..

>> No.54120232

>>54096033
Based knower. They want to shake you out. I'll never need to sell as I'm living off my landlord mother though

>> No.54120363

>>54096914

This is common core education folks

Just ignore all the other players and money movements and voila

>> No.54123245

>>54095919
Wasn't a bailt out.

>> No.54123287

>>54119168
Why would they fail when they can get unlimited liquidity now? It will hit profitability, at worst.

>> No.54123325

The rate raises will Fucking continue MotherFuckers!

>> No.54123705

>>54101404
explain how he's wrong

>> No.54123708

>>54118186
So this is gonna be 2008 all over again?
Long BlackRock while you still can.

>> No.54125442

>>54097155
the investments in treasuries would guarantee recovery of funds if held to maturity. SVB was retarded and didn't hedge interest risk and duration risk which is exacerbated by ultra-low interest rates just a couple years ago as well as the long period for their investments' maturity. if the fed niggas hold the assets till they mature they should face zero demands for "extra money" as the previous anon so clearly states. However, the guarantee on long-maturity bank assets is a further monetization of debt and is likely to cause significant dislocations in financial markets if other banks take advantage of such generous terms, with less incentive to hedge their risks and manage their treasuries to make sure they have enough cash or liquid investments to cover customer deposits during a stressful event, such as a bank run.

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>>54096914
that might be the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard. Are you a diversity hire?

>> No.54125624

>>54103068
Consumer spending will increase because idiots will continue spending on useless shit.

>> No.54126822

>>54095844
we should be receiving their women in return for all that we have given them.

>> No.54126971

>>54123705
Inflation is a purely relative term. Any time the relationship between purchasing power and material goods swings in a certain direction, it's inflation. This means, even if the money supply hasn't changed, that if the number of goods being chased decreased across the board, or if demand for a currency simply disappeared for unrelated reasons, it's counted as inflation.

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>>54099298
>how far can Clown World stretch?
This is the key question as far as I'm concerned. Logically I shouldn't be near these markets. But in Clown World, you miss gains by not adopting Clown World logic. See January 2023. I was out of crypto and stocks in late 2022, but somehow recession never came...somehow my shit 2Xed in January, and I have no idea how. Now I just have faith Clown World can get me to 42K BTC by June
by redefining the words "unemployment" "pivot" and "financial solvency," etc.

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54127118

>>54125624
I bought this cool hoodie for $50

>> No.54127185

>>54126971
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how jews redefine words.