HOLY FUCK

[Anonymous No.54093596]

BARNEY FRANK SAYS SIGNATURE BANK WAS SHUT DOWN FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO KILL THE LAST REMAINING CRYPTO BANK

[Anonymous No.54093617]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/signature-bank-third-biggest-bank-failure-in-us-history.html

[Anonymous No.54093644]

>>54093596
>FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO KILL THE LAST REMAINING CRYPTO BANK
yeah no shit, all the banks that fell had something to do with crypto now that's all over with no other bank will fall

screencap this

[Anonymous No.54093662]

>>54093596

>random boomer has an opinion

[Anonymous No.54093678]

He's literally on the board of the bank. Obviously he's going to say "they wanted to kill our bank" rather than "our executives did some irresponsible mismanagement of customer deposits"

[Anonymous No.54093694]

Based. Fuck crypto.

[Anonymous No.54093701]

>>54093596
(((Barney Frank)))

[Anonymous No.54093703]

THIS IS PROBABLY ALSO WHY THEY ASSASSINATED SILICONE VALLEY BANK WHO TRIED TO REACH OUT AND SAVE THEMSELVES BEFORE JPM DID A HIT JOB ON THEIR DEPOSITORS.
WE ARE WATCHING THE CENTRAL BANKING CARTEL KILL AND CONSOLIDATE THEIR COMPETITORS EMPIRES IN REAL TIME. NEXT THEY COME FOR BTC, CBDC TO BE RELEASED SOON AS I CALLED MONTHS AGO, WHEN I SAID BLACKSWAN EVENT Q1 2023

[Anonymous No.54093707]

>>54093596
Do they not realize that this makes crypto 100x even more bullish? people want their fiat out of banks ASAP and into bitcoin even more-so now that they are able to see how easily it is manipulated by the FED and corrupt Biden admin

[Anonymous No.54093731]

Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.54093744]

>>54093703
picrel

[Anonymous No.54093746]

>>54093703
IS THIS THE REAL CAPSLOCK ANON?

[Anonymous No.54093770]

>>54093596
If true, this is unironically bullish. Financial institution interest in crypto has been cancer and pretty much defeats the entire purpose of it

[Anonymous No.54093818]

>>54093707
>Do they not realize that this makes crypto 100x even more bullish?

its worthless if you cant off ramp

[Anonymous No.54093823]

This seems to be backfiring majorly.

[Anonymous No.54093827]

>>54093703
>>54093744
THIS IS AN ORGANIZED ATTACK ON CRYPTO BY THE CABAL. A FAKE BANKING CRISIS. THIS IS THE 9/11 OF /BIZ/ THE FALSE FLAG OF MONETARY FREEDOM

[Anonymous No.54093841]

So all the banks were terminated for their involvement with crypto, wow.

[Anonymous No.54093872]

>>54093596
and that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.54093882]

>>54093818
just move to a country that isn't controlled by moloch worshiping child sacrificing adrenochrome harvesting elder protocols tier merchants

[Anonymous No.54093884]

>>54093596
If no less a paragon of virtue than Barney Bignips Frank says so (according to hearsay via a twitter screencap), it must be true. I should trade on this news.

[Anonymous No.54093899]

>>54093678
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that insiders in the company haven't sold a single bit of stock since 2021. If they knew they were fucking around so hard then they'd have done some sneaky selling like the assholes at SIVB did a couple weeks ago, but they didn't.
Not to say this bank was in a splendid spot, but liquidity wise the situation it was in wasn't anything out of the ordinary compared to other regionals.

[Anonymous No.54093901]

Meanwhile the UK aims to be a crypto haven in The City of London. The pound has rallied massively against the dollar today.

[Anonymous No.54093903]

>>54093823
>>54093707
WE CAN ASSUME EXCHANGES WILL BE NEXT TARGET + CRYPTO REG LAWSUITS INBOUND LIKELY.

[Anonymous No.54093908]

>>54093678
can you explain exactly why they were shut down?

[Anonymous No.54093909]

>>54093703
>CBDC
Not before 2025. They still have to test and prepare the rollout. Still needs 2-5 years to get it right.

[Anonymous No.54093924]

>>54093827
>fragilized

[Anonymous No.54093937]

>>54093617
>>54093596
>Lying snake that has spent a lifetime fucking over taxpayers joins bank
>Runs it into the fucking ground.
>Noooo its cause they hate crypto and stuff!

[Anonymous No.54093997]

>>54093908
because they didn't have enough liquidity to meet customer withdrawals

[Anonymous No.54094006]

>>54093596
You should have listened

[Anonymous No.54094035]

>>54093596
And this is why the pump you're getting now is the closest you'll get to a bull run for a long, long time to come.

[Anonymous No.54094082]

>>54093596
Pretty much. Signature Bank didn't "fail." The government just shut it down because it posed a threat to the Jew. It was completely solvent and performing extremely well.

The same thing happen to Peter Schiff's bank. It was very well-run and had all of the deposits to withstand any kind of run. The government stepped in and shut it down and spread a bunch of lies about its operation. It never did anything wrong.

This is pure corruption. The government is stepping in and destroying businesses that never did anything wrong, and instead of focusing on their abuse of power and corruption then focus is on these banks that are just trying to give people an alternative to the Jew.

[Anonymous No.54094118]

>>54093997
That's a really blanket statement anon

[Anonymous No.54094120]

>>54093703
>>54093744
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. THIS WAS A HIT JOB. ORGANIZED CATASTROPHE LIKE 9/11 TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS AND STEAL YOUR WEALTH SO THAT THE FEW COULD CONTINUE CONTROLLING THE MANY. WHY DID THEY REJECT SVB’S PLEA??

[Anonymous No.54094161]

>>54093596

[Anonymous No.54094192]

>>54093997
Barney Frank said in his Bloomberg interview that they'd solved the liquidity issues, and that the flush of withdrawals had come to a halt on Sunday (yes, before the FDIC arrived :^)...)
I guess we'll have to wait and see whether he was talking out of his ass or not, either way the government just deleted billions of dollars in equity over the weekend and investors got reamed hard. Great reason to sell all regional banks with that precendent in mind.

[Anonymous No.54094194]

>>54094118
it's not that complicated, it's the same thing that happened to SVB

[Anonymous No.54094212]

>>54094120
Does crypto have what it takes to weather the storm? Or will big banksters crush it?

[Anonymous No.54094235]

>>54093596
They should be paying attention to banks that invest in commercial fishery on the Gulf, right now, IMO.

[Anonymous No.54094243]

>>54094194
>https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/new-york-state-regulators-close-signature-bank-2023-03-12/
They had 88 billion in deposits at the end of last year and you're telling me they were having liquidity issues? Nah, don't buy it

[Anonymous No.54094254]

I am able to on ramp/off ramp to coinbase and I've never heard of either bank until last friday.

exactly what has changed?

[Anonymous No.54094256]

>>54093901
No they don't. You unironically can't buy crypto through major banks. It's like saying China is a crypto safe haven. Stop spewing disgusting fake news.

[Anonymous No.54094266]

>>54093596
>LAND OF THE FREEEEEE

[Anonymous No.54094269]

>>54094082
what was schiff's bank named? also damn this is crazy

[Anonymous No.54094272]

>>54093827
>ORGANIZED ATTACK ON CRYPTO
>crypto is mooning
something isn't adding up with your take brah

[Anonymous No.54094327]

>>54094235
These banks are at risk of a run, as commercial fishery in the gulf is about to be slammed by this sargassum blanket the size of a continent. It's going to eviscerate the gulf's commercial fishing, tourism during peak season, etc...

This is going to be felt, and the negative impact is between 500 million to 2.5 billion dollars.

Drop in the bucket, but it could cascade upward, depending on the exposure of regional banking assets to the commercial fishing industry. If these fishermen can't make their contracts, the loans still come due, and the liquid assets come from somewhere... Such as their deposit and saving accounts, let alone the fact that they probably have their loans drawn out from the banks with high exposure in the area, anyway.

9 Figure impact on the low end, is enough to send small regional banks into a fray, if the shit goes down.

[Anonymous No.54094343]

>final nail in the Ponzi scheme known as crypto
based

[Anonymous No.54094350]

>>54094256
>cant buy crypto through major banks
Barclays works fine with direct deposits to coinbase

[Anonymous No.54094360]

Why is a flagrant homosexual allowed in the financial public square?

[Anonymous No.54094361]

>>54094256
https://www.creditdonkey.com/crypto-friendly-banks.html#:~:text=Chase%20offers%20a%20range%20of,to%20buy%20and%20sell%20cryptocurrencies.

[Anonymous No.54094363]

>>54094212
Well all the crypto banks are going under / being B& by the Feds. In the UK like 70% of Banks straight up block deposits to crypto exchanges, and using LocalCoins, etc will get your account closed.

So I don't think we'll ever see the peaks again, normies won't be able to invest easily.

[Anonymous No.54094375]

>>54093707
Try paying your utility bills with virtual dog tokens.

[Anonymous No.54094468]

>>54093596
Nice

[Anonymous No.54094617]

>>54094272
THIS ISNT THE LAST ATTACK. THEY DKNT CARE IF THE CATTLE FLEE INTO THE HOUSE THEY PLAN ON BOMBING. INFACT, THE MORE BODIES THE BETTER.

[Anonymous No.54094659]

>>54094327
Make a thread for this

[Anonymous No.54094753]

>>54094243
you know that deposits are liabilities, right?

[Anonymous No.54094754]

>>54094659
sorry, can't right now, had a more important thread to make
>>54094681

[Anonymous No.54094804]

>>54094082
>Government
>Corruption
.gov gets to decide what is pure and what is corrupt. When will you anarchists get this through your heads?

[Anonymous No.54094827]

>>54094272
SIE SIND DAS BAGGIE UND WIR SIND DIE RUGGAH

[Anonymous No.54094835]

>>54094269
Euro Pacific Bank

Shut down by the government and smeared in the media. They never proved that the bank did anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.54094953]

>>54093827
OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHIT OH FUCK

[Anonymous No.54095004]

>>54093596
>he thought (((they))) where going to let him escape the system using magical Internet beans

[Anonymous No.54095097]

>>54093596
>controlled demolition for the sake of fucking crypto
the absolute state, naturally i find this out here and not on /pol/ because this is actual breakthrough information that blurs the line between the two boards

[Anonymous No.54095147]

>>54093899
>If they knew they were fucking around so hard then they'd have done some sneaky selling like the assholes at SIVB did a couple weeks ago, but they didn't.
Don't have to sell and go to prison when you can have everyone you know short it into the ground and return favors for you.

[Anonymous No.54095538]

>>54093882
But I dont want to live in North Korea...I want to purge these demons from my own country.

[Anonymous No.54096107]

>>54094272
The US admin is trying to decouple crypto from it's banking institutions, but that unironically becomes a good thing because it reduces crypto's dependence on us banking.

[Anonymous No.54096429]

>>54093703
intredasting...

[Anonymous No.54096552]

>>54093596
>This level of cope
Crypto is dead

[Anonymous No.54096595]

>>54094161
all time great tweet

[Anonymous No.54096612]

>>54093596
>Crypto bank
Jewish hands typed this

[Anonymous No.54096679]

>>54093596
globohomo strikes back

[Anonymous No.54096731]

>crypto bank

Good, let them lose everything. Not your keys than fucking lose it all retard.

[Anonymous No.54096792]

>>54094082
>Ripple competitors getting taken out
Bullish for XRP

[Anonymous No.54096940]

THANKS JEWS.
Surely this will help prove all those rapidly growing, lifetime committed antisemites to be COMPLETELY out of their mind when the dust settles and there are nothing but literal cartoon character level jew trolls and goblins rubbing their hands who are not only the exclusive survivors of all of this but over time we come to learn the architects of its destruction.
There is no way this can backfire LOL

[Anonymous No.54097568]

>>54095147
This company has been around since 2001, that would be insane. Mind you that the same men that started it were still running the show until this weekend. 22 years of banking, already being millionaires, and NOW they decide to run it into the ground? Doubtful. I'm more inclined to believe that they were made to be an example.

[Anonymous No.54097660]

>>54096731
All they did was provide a fiat on-ramp and a place to store excess liquidity you gorilla nigger. People read the word bank and start spouting the dumbest shit, I swear

[Anonymous No.54098122]

>>54096731
crypto as you know it wouldnt exist without fiat on/off ramps you fucking retard
if crypto still had to be bought peer to peer in cash it would be nothing more than a little novelty

[Anonymous No.54098215]

>>54093596
>kill bank to engineer crypto demise
>crypto moons
Please kill yourself

[Anonymous No.54098647]

[Anonymous No.54098772]

>>54093596
No army = no bank. Only military force guarantees banks, finances and so forth. This is why crypto was doomed to fail either way. Unless your financial system is militarily capable it will be destroyed.

[Anonymous No.54099066]

>>54093678
>Person who wrote government banking regulations is on the board of a bank
O SAY CAN YOU SEE

[Anonymous No.54099132]

>>54096107
this, banks are antithetical to crypto

[Anonymous No.54100040]

What’s the difference between a Barney Frank and a Fenway Frank?
>The bun it comes it

[Anonymous No.54100097]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5NrqqK60OI

any other rushbros remember this?

[Anonymous No.54100101]

>>54098647
>eToro
The broker? That leads me to the question where other brokers have their money. Anyone has an overview?

[Anonymous No.54100383]

>>54093703
>I SAID BLACKSWAN EVENT Q1 2023
Not as early as this guy.

[Anonymous No.54100991]

>>54100383
So, what do you think?

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/405335459

[Anonymous No.54101012]

>>54093694
>Based. Fuck crypto.
Based poorfag nocoiner

[Anonymous No.54101014]

>>54093617
then why were they taking federal home loan bank loans? they had a giant hole in their balance sheet, those loans only exist as emergency credit for distressed banks

[Anonymous No.54101024]

This is why betting on crypto was dumb. The establishment would NEVER support it.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101114]

SVB COULDN'T IGNORE IT'S LOSSES, BUT FED CAN
Silicon Valley Bank
The way a bank works is that it borrows short to lend long. Simplistically, a bank might get its money from demand deposits, checking and savings accounts that customers can withdraw at any time. And the bank might pay, say, 0% interest on those deposits. And then it invests the money in some longer-term assets, loans and bonds that don’t get paid back for years, and that pay, say, 2% interest. The bank earns 2% on its money, pays 0% to depositors for the money, and keeps the spread, the net interest margin, which is 2% in this example.

Sometimes interest rates go up or down, though. Simplistically, short-term interest rates in the US are set by the Federal Reserve, which will raise interest rates to cool the economy if inflation is too high.

This is a risk for a bank’s borrow-short-to-lend-long business model. If the Fed suddenly raises short-term interest rates to, say, 3%, then you have to start paying 3% on your deposits. Meanwhile long-term interest rates have probably also gone up to, say, 5%, but you are still earning the old 2% on your loans and bonds, because they are long-term loans that don’t get paid back for years. Your net interest margin is now negative 1%: You pay 3% on deposits and earn only 2% on loans and bonds.

[Anonymous No.54101127]

But everything's going up even the bank stocks that dump 80%

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101151]

>>54101114
This is an obvious problem and much of the business of banking is about managing it. Here are some simple things that you can do:

1. Your loans and bonds have laddered maturities: Some mature next week, some in 3 years, some in 6. So as rates go up, your loans and bonds are constantly rolling off and you are reinvesting the money in new loans and bonds at higher rates.

2. When the Fed raises rates, in actual fact, banks mostly don’t pass along the whole rate increase to depositors. It’s a pain to switch banks, and most depositors don’t pay that much attention to rates. The “deposit beta” — the sensitivity of bank deposit rate increases to Fed interest rate increases — is lower than 1. So if the Fed raises rates from 0% to 3%, you might end up paying only, say, 0.5% on deposits. [1]

3. You can try to match your assets and liabilities somewhat. Make some short-term loans, and some floating-rate loans, so that your assets are more sensitive to rising rates. Borrow some money with long-term bonds, so that your liabilities are less sensitive to rising rates. Do interest-rate swaps to hedge.

4.You can make money in ways other than net interest margin: Charge overdraft fees or do investment banking or trade securities or whatever.
This is not, however, the biggest problem with borrowing short to lend long. The biggest problem is that your depositors might all ask for their money back tomorrow, and you might not be able to get the money back from your borrowers for years. This problem is known as a “bank run” and is famous from, you know, the Diamond-Dybvig model that won a Nobel Prize last year, or from It’s a Wonderful Life. “The money’s not here. Why, your money’s in Joe’s house,” etc.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101182]

>>54101151
Much of the business of banking, and of bank regulation, is about managing this risk. For instance:

1. The government can provide deposit insurance on accounts, promising depositors that they’ll get their money back, which will make them less inclined to ask for their money back, since they know it’s safe.

2. The government can regulate banks to make them act safely, so that they don’t lose customer money, so that customers are confident and don’t ask for their money back.

3. You can keep a lot of cash around, so that if a lot of depositors (though certainly not all of them) ask for their money back, you have some to give to them.

4. If a lot of depositors ask for their money back and you run through your cash, you can sell some of your loans or bonds to raise money. In the days of It’s a Wonderful Life it was kind of hard to sell the mortgage on Joe’s house for ready cash, but modern financial markets are much deeper and more liquid, which is good for selling bonds or loans or other bank assets.

5. Alternatively, you can borrow against your assets: You can go to a bigger bank, or to a lender of last resort like the Federal Reserve, or a “ lender of next-to-last resort” like the Federal Home Loan Banks, and borrow the cash to pay out depositors. And as collateral for that loan to you, you post your assets, the bonds you own or the loans you made to your customers. This is the most classic way to deal with bank runs, and is famous from Walter Bagehot’s Lombard Street. “Lend freely, at a penalty rate, against good collateral” is the basic advice Bagehot gives central bankers: If a bank has good loans, but it can’t turn them into money right away, the central bank should lend it the money.

[Anonymous No.54101197]

>>54100097
Came here to post it

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101201]

>>54101182
Let’s talk about Option 4, selling assets to raise money to pay back depositors. Let’s say you loaned a customer $100 for five years at 2% interest. The customer is big and reliable and the loan will definitely be paid back. How much can you sell that loan for? Well, the day after you made the loan, it should be worth about $100 — about what you paid for it. But what if the Fed raises short-term interest rates from 0% to 3%? Then the market interest rate on loans like this will probably go up from 2% to 5%. But your loan still pays only 2%, so it is worth less. The crude intuitive math is that a new market-rate loan would pay $5 of interest per year for 5 years ($25 total), while your loan pays $2 of interest for 5 years ($10 total), so it is worth about $15 less, so people would pay you about $85 for it, though you’d get fired at a bank for doing bond math like that. (Really they’d pay you about $87. [2] )

There is a connection here to the previous problem, the one about your net interest income going down as rates go up. Imagine a super-simple bank: You borrow $100 at 0% and lend $100 at 2% for five years. You also invest $10 of your own capital in the bank, and keep that money in cash, to cover any sudden withdrawals. [3] You make $2 per year in interest, pay $0 per year of interest, and get $2 per year of net interest margin. You spend $1.50 of that on non-interest expense (salaries, rent, etc.), and keep $0.50 as profit. After a year, you have $10.50 of capital: the $10 you put in and your $0.50 of profit.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101214]

>>54101201
Then rates suddenly go up, so short-term rates are now 3% and long-term rates are 5%. None of the stuff I said before — about deposit betas and laddered maturities — works for you, for whatever reason; your deposit rates immediately jump to 3% and you keep getting 2% on your bonds. This year, you will have a net loss of $2.50: You pay $3 on your $100 of deposits and get paid $2 on your $100 of bonds, and you also have $1.50 of salaries and rent to pay. (You’ll be down to $8 of your own capital.) Next year, you will also have a net loss, though maybe it’s only $2 because you laid some people off and closed some branches. (Now you’re down to $6 of capital.) Year after, same idea: You will keep bleeding money, because you borrowed short and loaned long and rates went up. But maybe something will change? Maybe rates will go back down. Maybe your borrowers will repay their bonds early and you’ll get to redeploy the money at higher rates. Maybe your employees will find a new line of business to earn some fees. Maybe you’ll reverse the losses. Or not, maybe you’ll keep losing $2.50 per year for five years and run out of capital and have to close the bank. But maybe my assumptions about your high deposit beta and long-term assets are unrealistically pessimistic: This is a simplistic example, and at a real bank the result might be lower margins for a while, not constant losses.

[Anonymous No.54101230]

>ftx was the tribe attempt at taming grybdo and taking control of it for themselves
>sec giving them all the best licenses, nyt shilling them, ads on tv, cramer endorsing solana, the whole nine yard
>ftx fails because tribe cant help themselves with stealing and scheming so hard
>in following weeks, sec charges kucoin, coinbase and binance with bs charges or push them out of us market, silvergate and crypto friendly banks get shut down, cramer telling you to sell btc, msm hit pieces on ftx rivals all over the place
just coincidences goyim

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101231]

>>54101214
But what if instead of keeping their deposits at your bank and earning 3% interest, the depositors all asked for their money back today? You would have to sell your bonds. You’d get about $87 for them. You would have a $13 loss today. All of the losses that you would have taken over the next five years, from holding long-term bonds at low rates while deposit rates have gone up, you will experience now. And you won’t have any time to reverse them, because you have to sell the bonds now and give everyone their money back. Also you don’t have enough money: Selling the bonds for $87 will raise $87, and you have $10 of capital, for a total of $97. But your depositors want their $100 back, and you only have $97.

If you are a bank that borrowed short to lend long, and rates go up, your portfolio of long-dated assets represents an opportunity cost over time: Instead of earning 5% on your loans, you’re stuck earning 2%. But if you have to sell those assets, you turn that opportunity cost into a cash loss today. You pull the losses forward in time and take them all now.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101253]

>>54101231
Now we have to talk about accounting. Oversimplifying, there are two main ways for a bank to account for its assets:

1. The traditional way is to account for them at cost, the price you paid for them. If you lend a customer $100, you have a $100 asset — the loan — on your balance sheet. (You deduct something for the possibility they won’t pay you back, but let’s ignore that.)

2. The other way is to account for them at their fair market value. If you buy a bond for $100, you can go look at the market price for that bond at the end of the quarter; if it’s $97.75, then you have a $97.75 asset on your balance sheet. The other $2.25 is gone. [4]

The first approach gives you a reasonable picture of a bank that is continuing to operate as a bank: In my example, if you have $100 of bonds and $100 of deposits and the loans pay 2% and the deposits cost 3% and you are losing $2.50 per year, your financial statements will say that. Your balance sheet will say that you have $100 of bonds, so you will ultimately have enough money to pay back your depositors, but your income statement will say you are losing money each year.

The second approach gives you a reasonably accurate picture of a bank that has to shut down today: In my example, your balance sheet will show that you have $87 of bonds at fair market value, so you don’t have enough money to pay back all your depositors if you have to do it today.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101275]

>>54101253
Traditionally banks’ assets consisted mostly of loans, there was not much of a market for those loans, and the normal accounting approach was to account for them at cost. Modern banks’ assets include lots of bonds, there is a market for those bonds, and it is reasonably common to account for them at fair market value. [5] Still, banks do like accounting for assets at cost, and so they are allowed to designate bonds as “held to maturity” — meaning that they have no plans to sell them — and account for them at cost. (But then if they sell any of their held-to-maturity bonds, they need to reclassify all of them as “available for sale” and account for them at fair market value, which could mean taking a huge loss all at once.) In general it seems fair to say that the modern trend in financial-institution accounting is toward marking more things to market values, but there remain many exceptions. [6]

From my simple example you can see why banks don’t always like mark-to-market accounting. In my simple example, the bank has $100 of deposits, $100 of bonds and $10 of capital. It is losing money on interest rates, so its capital is going down, slowly. But it is solvent: It has assets of $110 ($100 of bonds plus $10 of cash) and liabilities of only $100 (the deposits).

But if the bank instead put out financial statements showing that it had $87 of bonds (their current market value), it would be insolvent: It would have assets of $97 against liabilities of $100. And if its depositors read those financial statements, they’d say “hey wait this bank is insolvent” and rush to take their money out. And then the bank would have to sell those bonds for $87, and it really would be insolvent. The accounting could cause a run, which would require the assets to be sold at market value, which would result in taking all the losses today, which would result in actual insolvency.

[Anonymous No.54101276]

>>54101231
Let me condense this for you

Jews

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101289]

>>54101275
One crude way that the actual US banking system deals with this problem is by letting banks account for their held-to-maturity bonds at cost on their balance sheet, but then making them explain, somewhere in the footnotes to the financial statements, their current market value. [7] This feels like in some ways a fair compromise. On the other hand someone might read the footnotes! I mean, not most people. But someone might, and they might explain the footnotes in a readable way — they might say something like “on a mark-to-market basis, they were broke last quarter” [8] — and people might read that and think “huh that’s bad” and withdraw their deposits. Causing the bonds to be sold, causing insolvency.

But wait! Why sell the bonds? Why not borrow against them? You have $100 of bonds, $10 of capital kept in cash, $100 of deposits. Rates move against you. In a footnote to your financial statements, you confess that the bonds are worth only $87 at current market values. Someone reads the footnote and shows it to someone else. Word gets around. Lots of depositors come and ask for their money back. You have only $10 of cash.

So you go to your lender of last resort, let’s say the Federal Reserve. You say: “Here is a $100 asset that I have. I want to post it as collateral for a loan. You lend me $100 against this collateral, and charge me 3% interest. I will use the $100 to pay off my depositors. I’ll be left with a $100 asset and a $100 liability to you, instead of to my depositors. And then I’ll try to cut costs and earn more fees and otherwise earn enough to pay your interest. I’ll be in the same place as I was before the run. It’s not a great place, necessarily — I’m still earning less interest on my assets than I’m paying on my liabilities — but, you know, markets change and I’ll probably muddle through and anyway the bonds will eventually pay off $100 so you’ll get your money back.”

[Anonymous No.54101292]

>>54101230
>kucoin, coinbase and binance
Binance US is its own company, Kucoin is obscure, and Coinbase is the most "legitimate" (state approved) crypto company on Earth. I don't think they're going to mess with Coinbase.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101304]

>>54101276
He gets into the meat of his point after this lengthy explanation of modern banking for Newbs.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101318]

>>54101289
And then the Fed either says:

- sure, or
- “no, this is not $100 of collateral, this is only $87 of collateral: We will only lend against the market value of this collateral, not against what you paid for it.”

Which answer should the Fed give? On the one hand, the Fed wants to lend against good collateral and not take a lot of risk. Lending you $100 against collateral with a market value of $87 seems kind of stupid for the Fed.

On the other hand, the Fed is a lender of last resort, and its main job is to lend you money so that you don’t have to sell your assets too hastily. Lending against the market value is kind of the same thing as making you sell your assets: You can only borrow what you’d get by selling them today, not what they’ll eventually pay out. It speeds things up just like selling them would, and the Fed’s job is to give you more time.

You could imagine giving either answer. In the olden days of traditional banking, it might have made sense for a central bank to lend against banks’ loans at their face value. But modern central bankers are plugged into financial markets, and financial markets are good at determining market prices for assets, and so the modern consensus seems to be that central banks should lend against collateral at its market value. [9]

[Anonymous No.54101326]

>>54101292
not kucoin sorry, kraken
they went after them and after "staking" on cexes recently

[Anonymous No.54101344]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/09/coinbase-shares-fall-as-sec-takes-crypto-staking-action-against-kraken.html

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101364]

>>54101318
Until yesterday. We talked on Friday about the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank:

1. It borrowed very short to lend very long. Specifically, it is funded mostly by deposits, largely from tech companies and venture capitalists who got a lot of money over the last couple of years, and who put that money into SVB deposits that were much bigger than the US deposit insurance cap of $250,000. It plowed that money disproportionately into bonds, quite safe bonds — US Treasuries and agency mortgage-backed securities — but bonds with long duration. It did not do much to hedge its interest-rate risk. Basically it was as reckless as it is possible to be with a business model of “take deposits and invest them in US Treasury bonds.” Which, until recently, might not have seemed that reckless!

2. But then rates went up a lot, pretty fast.

3. This caused the market value of SVB’s bonds to decline by some $15 billion, to the point that it was more or less insolvent: Its losses on the bonds were enough to wipe out almost all of its equity capital and leave it with assets, at market value, worth only very slightly more than its liabilities.

4. It mentioned this fact in footnotes to its financial statements.

5. People noticed.

6. SVB’s depositors, who again are largely tech firms and venture capitalists, are all on Twitter a lot and move in herds; when they noticed that SVB was insolvent-ish they all pulled their money out at once. (“It turned out that one of the biggest risks to our business model was catering to a very tightly knit group of investors who exhibit herd-like mentalities,” an SVB executive told the Financial Times.) Depositors tried to withdraw $42 billion on Thursday.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101403]

>>54101364
7. SVB tried to pay them. It used its cash. It sold stuff that was easy to sell. It tried to borrow from the Fed, but “despite attempts from the Bank, with the assistance of regulators, to transfer collateral from various sources, the Bank did not meet its cash letter with the Federal Reserve.”

8. It was declared insolvent and seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. on Friday.

SVB is, I think, an unusually clear case of a bank that

- was almost certainly insolvent, on a mark-to-market basis: By Friday, if not earlier, its assets, at their current market value, were probably worth less than its liabilities [10] ; and
- could probably have muddled through and been profitable if people had just kept their money in the bank: Its maturities were laddered, its deposit rates weren’t going up that much, it did have a positive net interest margin even this quarter, it did have various ways to make money, and if people had just kept their money in, the bonds would have matured and been replaced by higher-earning bonds and SVB would have been fine.

And so if SVB had gone to the Fed and been like “hi we have $120 billion of Treasury bonds and stuff like that, will you lend us $120 billion against them,” and if the Fed had said yes, it probably could have muddled through. But that $120 billion of stuff had a market value of only $100 billion.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101428]

>>54101403
The FDIC and other banking regulators spent the weekend trying to sell SVB, apparently with no luck. The goal of that sale would be to have some other bank buy SVB’s assets, business, franchise, etc. and assume its deposits, without necessarily paying anything to its shareholders or bondholders. I think the regulators’ preference would have been to leave the depositors intact and zero the shareholders and bondholders. They did not get there yet.

Here is what they came up with instead:

>US authorities raced on Sunday to stem jitters about the health of the nation’s financial system, pledging to fully protect all depositors’ money following the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank while also giving any banks squeezed for cash easier terms on short-term loans.

>The Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. jointly announced the efforts aimed at strengthening confidence in the banking system after SVB’s failure spurred concern about spillover effects. ...

>The Fed in a separate statement said it’s creating a new “Bank Term Funding Program” that offers loans to banks under easier terms than are typically provided by the central bank.

>Fed officials said on a briefing call that the facility will be big enough to protect uninsured deposits in the wider US banking system. It was invoked under the Fed’s emergency authority allowing for the establishment of a broad-based program under “unusual and exigent circumstances,” which requires Treasury approval. ...

>Under the new program, which provides loans of up to one year, collateral will be valued at par, or 100 cents on the dollar. That means banks can get bigger loans than usual for securities that are worth less than that — such as Treasuries that have declined in value as the Fed raised interest rates.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101449]

>>54101428
Here is the joint statement:

>After receiving a recommendation from the boards of the FDIC and the Federal Reserve, and consulting with the President, Secretary Yellen approved actions enabling the FDIC to complete its resolution of Silicon Valley Bank, Santa Clara, California, in a manner that fully protects all depositors. Depositors will have access to all of their money starting Monday, March 13. No losses associated with the resolution of Silicon Valley Bank will be borne by the taxpayer.

>We are also announcing a similar systemic risk exception for Signature Bank, New York, New York, which was closed today by its state chartering authority. All depositors of this institution will be made whole. As with the resolution of Silicon Valley Bank, no losses will be borne by the taxpayer.

>Shareholders and certain unsecured debtholders will not be protected. Senior management has also been removed. Any losses to the Deposit Insurance Fund to support uninsured depositors will be recovered by a special assessment on banks, as required by law.

And here is the Fed statement:

>The additional funding will be made available through the creation of a new Bank Term Funding Program (BTFP), offering loans of up to one year in length to banks, savings associations, credit unions, and other eligible depository institutions pledging U.S. Treasuries, agency debt and mortgage-backed securities, and other qualifying assets as collateral. These assets will be valued at par. The BTFP will be an additional source of liquidity against high-quality securities, eliminating an institution's need to quickly sell those securities in times of stress.

I think the main point here is just “these assets will be valued at par.” [11] Silicon Valley Bank is gone, but the next bank with bonds that it bought for $100 and that are now worth $80 can go to the Fed and borrow $100 against them.

[Anonymous No.54101461]

>>54101364
>herd like mentalities
kek they're just calling their goycattle what they are now

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101501]

>>54101449
One way to look at this crisis is:

- Banks borrowed short to lend long, as they generally do.
- Rates went up far and fast, causing the market value of the banks’ long-lived assets to decline a lot.
- Unlike in It's a Wonderful Life, this decline was very noticeable, because it is relatively well accounted for. At least in the footnotes of the banks’ financial statements, you can see how much market value their assets have lost. You can make a chart! It might show hundreds of billions of dollars of mark-to-market losses on investment securities, spread among US banks.
- Also unlike in It’s a Wonderful Life, there is Twitter and people can tweet about this. There is online banking and people can pull their money from their banks on their phones while they are on the bus to the ski resort. Runs can happen fast; panics can spread fast.
-The problem is a fairly pure one of interest-rate sensitivity. The banks did not make bad loans to bad borrowers; they are mostly still profitable day-to-day. It’s just that if they had to sell all their bonds today, some of them would be in bad shape.
- The basic job of the Fed, as lender of last resort, is to make it so the banks don’t have to sell their bonds today.
- By lending the banks money against those bonds.
- And by valuing those bonds at par — by ignoring the mark-to-market accounting that has gotten everyone else worried.

The Fed can do that! The Fed can certainly hold the assets to maturity; it can’t lose its funding and be forced to sell everything in a panic.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101521]

>>54101501
One way to think of this is that US banks — especially SVB, but not only SVB — have had huge mark-to-market losses on their bond portfolios as interest rates go up, but it is traditional for banks to ignore those losses. In traditional banking, rising interest rates are a matter of opportunity costs and net interest margin, not of large mark-to-market losses.

But in the modern world — of more pervasive financial markets and more sophisticated accounting and faster-moving information — the banks and their customers were unable to ignore those losses. So the Fed stepped in and said: Look, we are best positioned to ignore those losses, so we will. The service that the Fed is providing to the banking system here is ignoring that rates went up when it values banks’ bonds. That service is incredibly valuable. Historically banks’ retail depositors provided it, but now only the Fed can.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101585]

>>54101521
SIGNATURE!!
Oh yeah, Signature Bank failed?

>Both Signature’s insured and uninsured customers will be able to access all their deposits under the same “systemic risk exception” that will give Silicon Valley Bank customers access to their cash starting Monday, regulators said.

>The decision to close Signature came as a surprise to its managers, who found out shortly before the public announcement, according to a person familiar with the matter. The bank faced a torrent of deposit outflows on Friday, but the situation had stabilized by Sunday, the person said, asking not to be identified discussing a private matter.

>“I think that if we’d been allowed to open tomorrow, that we could’ve continued — we have a solid loan book, we’re the biggest lender in New York City under the low-income housing tax credit,” said former Congressman Barney Frank, a Signature Bank board member known for the Dodd-Frank Act, which overhauled US financial regulation in the wake of the global financial crisis. “I think the bank could’ve been a going concern.” …

>Much like Silicon Valley Bank, with clients made up almost entirely of businesses, Signature had a deposit base that was mostly uninsured — roughly 90% of deposits for Signature, and north of 93% of domestic deposits at SVB. That may have attracted the attention of regulators looking into banks with large uninsured deposit bases.

>“What happened at Silvergate and SVB was a very traditional bank failure,” said J. Austin Campbell, an adjunct professor of Columbia Business School. “This, unless there was a bigger run on deposits than we know about, is less so. If there’s not some pretty gory details that came out after about the balance sheet, it’s hard to figure out why they were singled out.”

[Anonymous No.54101590]

>>54093662
The irony when 94% of crypto purchases were made by Gens Y & Z last year...the generations that put this hairbrained administration in the WH that forced inflation and higher interest rates.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101603]

>>54101585
One notable fact is that Signature is (was?) one of the two main crypto-friendly US banks, along with Silvergate, and I suppose shutting them down is appealing to bank regulators who have become very skeptical of crypto. Arguably this whole banking crisis was kicked off by contagion from crypto — crypto exchanges banked with Silvergate, they lost money, they pulled it out of Silvergate, that sparked a run, it spread — and regulators have been vocal about wanting to prevent further contagion from crypto into the real financial system. Seizing the crypto banks is a step toward doing that.

But I think there’s another way to read this. The measures that US regulators announced yesterday — the BTFP and the guarantees on uninsured deposits — do in some obvious sense amount to a bailout of banks. Not of Silicon Valley Bank, though: SVB had already been seized by the FDIC, and its shareholders (and perhaps bondholders) will get zeroed. SVB took dumb risks with depositor money and so its investors lost everything, but the depositors will get their money back.

But every other bank’s shareholders and bondholders and executives will benefit from those measures. If you are an uninsured depositor at a medium-sized bank that made some dumb rates bets, there is no reason to move your money now; the Fed has made it clear that it will support that bank. This (probably!) takes run risk off the table for those banks, making them less likely to fail, making their stocks and bonds more valuable than they would be if the Fed hadn’t acted to limit contagion. (In actual fact many bank stocks are down big today, though presumably they’d be down more without these measures.) The rescue of Silicon Valley Bank’s depositors comes too late for Silicon Valley Bank’s shareholders, but it’s good for every similar bank’s shareholders.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101627]

>>54101603
--- As a matter of rough justice you could imagine the Fed looking at the most similar bank — arguably Signature, with its huge proportion of uninsured deposits and its exposure to fast-money crypto/tech customers — and saying “no, not you, your shareholders are getting toasted.” The mechanics of the rescue mean that inevitably some bank shareholders will be bailed out, but not all of them.

[Anonymous No.54101645]

>>54100383
larp poster

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101661]

>>54101627
BOND TRADING
Sure?

>As US government officials pledged to fully protect all depositors of the failed Silicon Valley Bank, they had a specific message for investors in the bonds and shares of the bank’s holding company.

>They’ll be “wiped out,” a senior Treasury official said in a call with reporters late Sunday.

>Yet some traders appear to be betting that the recovery value of bonds issued by parent SVB Financial Group will be higher than the market was pricing in during the tumultuous Friday session.

>The senior unsecured bonds were changing hands at around 47 to 50 cents on the dollar Monday morning, higher than the roughly 37 to 42 cents at the end of Friday, according to data from the US trade reporting system known as Trace. SVB bonds were among the most actively traded obligations over the Monday session, per Trace.

>The parent has assets that could be used in a bankruptcy to repay creditors, including $2.3 billion in cash, $491 million in investments and nonbank units worth $896 million, according the company’s annual report.

>Investors and credit graders expect the holding company will be put into Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the government seizure of its banking operations.

I mean the Treasury can’t really just decide to wipe out the bonds: If it turns out that Silicon Valley Bank ultimately sells for more than its deposits, somebody has to get that money, and the bondholders are … “first in line” is an exaggeration, probably the bank regulators could find ways to extract some extra money from SVB to pay for its rescue, but the bondholders are in line. The fact that the FDIC didn’t succeed in selling SVB over the weekend is not a great sign for the eventual recovery, but I’m not sure it’s obvious that the recovery will be zero, even though Treasury would probably like that outcome.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101689]

>>54101661
USDC

Most of the leading crypto stablecoins have a pretty simple model: You give some stablecoin issuer $1, the issuer keeps the dollar and gives you back a dollar-denominated stablecoin, and the issuer promises to redeem the stablecoin for a dollar when you want. Meanwhile, the issuer has to hang on to the dollar. There are roughly two ways for it to do this:

1. The issuer can try to work nicely with US regulators, get various licenses, and park its money in some combination of Treasury bills, other safe liquid assets, and accounts at regulated US banks.

2. The issuer can be a total mystery! The money is somewhere! Probably! But you’ll never find out where.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101702]

>>54101689
USDC, the stablecoin of Circle, is probably the leading example of the first option. USDT, the stablecoin of Tether, is probably the leading example of the second option.

Me, I am a guy from traditional finance, and I’ve always been a bit puzzled that everyone in crypto trusts Tether so completely. You could put your money in a stablecoin that transparently keeps it in regulated banks, or you could put your money in Tether, which is very cagy and sometimes gets up to absolutely wild stuff with the money. Why choose Tether?

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101717]

>>54101702
But then this weekend USDC depegged and USDT did not, because USDC has money at Silicon Valley Bank and USDT (presumably!) does not:

>Crypto’s second-largest stablecoin rebounded toward its intended $1 dollar peg as issuer Circle Internet Financial Ltd. pledged to cover any shortfall in $3.3 billion of reverses held at collapsed Silicon Valley Bank.

>USD Coin, a key plank in crypto markets, rose as high as $1 and was trading at 98.2 cents as of 10:50 a.m. Sunday in Tokyo. The coin had earlier fetched less than 85 cents in a depeg that sent a shudder through digital assets.

>Circle reiterated its stablecoin, also known as USDC, is fully backed by $42.1 billion in cash and US Treasuries. The company said outbound transfers of the $3.3 billion at Silicon Valley Bank initiated as of Thursday had yet to settle but expressed confidence in US regulatory efforts to manage the overall situation. …

T>op stablecoin Tether or USDT — which has previously faced scrutiny over its reserves — said on Friday that it doesn’t have exposure to Silicon Valley Bank and has held firm at $1 or above.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101734]

>>54101717
One possible understanding of this situation is that Circle made some bad credit decisions with its portfolio (putting billions of dollars into a rickety US bank), while Tether made excellent credit decisions with its portfolio (putting billions of dollars into whatever it is putting billions of dollars into). And, by extension, the traditional regulated US banking system isn’t that safe, and Tether’s more complicated exposures are actually better than keeping the money in the bank.

Another possible understanding, though, is that banking requires mystery! My point, in the first section of this column, was that too much transparency can add to the fragility of a bank, that the Fed is providing a valuable service by ignoring banks’ mark-to-market losses. Circle does not provide that service. Circle keeps its money in a bank with financial statements, and that bank fails, and Circle dutifully puts out a statement saying “whoops we had $3.3 billion in the failed bank,” and people naturally panic and USDC depegs. You have no idea where Tether keeps its money, so you have no idea if anything went wrong. This has generally struck me as bad, but it might have some advantages.

fI

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101759]

>>54101734
[notes]
[1] In fact, banks generally make higher net interest margins as rates go up, because they can increase their interest income (on long-term loans and bonds) faster than they increase their deposit interest expense. I cited it the other day, but here’s “Banking on Deposits: Maturity Transformation without Interest Rate Risk,” by Itamar Drechsler, Alexi Savov and Philipp Schnabl, in the Journal of Finance in 2021: “We show that maturity transformation does not expose banks to interest rate risk — it hedges it. The reason is the deposit franchise, which allows banks to pay deposit rates that are low and insensitive to market interest rates. Hedging the deposit franchise requires banks to earn income that is also insensitive, that is, to lend long term at fixed rates. As predicted by this theory, we show that banks closely match the interest rate sensitivities of their interest income and expense, and that this insulates their equity from interest rate shocks. Our results explain why banks supply long-term credit.”

[2] Acceptable yet still lazy options for bankers would include saying “ehh a 5-year bond has about a 4-year duration so if rates go up 3% that’s a 12-point loss” (for a price of $88), or =PV(.05,5,-2,-100) in Excel (for a price of $87.01).

[3] I am trying to be as casual as possible about capital here, because no one ever likes reading about bank capital. But the idea is that the assets side of the balance sheet is (1) $100 of loans plus (2) $10 of cash, and the liability side is (3) $100 of deposits plus (4) $10 of stockholders’ equity.

[4] As a matter of double-entry accounting, it needs to go somewhere, with the two main options being (1) subtracting it from net income or (2) subtracting it from accumulated other comprehensive income.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101780]

>>54101759
[5] Even loans trade more freely and are more likely to be marked to market than they used to be.

[6] Two books that discuss this transition, from old-style bank accounting to modern mark-to-market accounting, and its relationship to banking crises, are Nicholas Dunbar’s “The Devil’s Derivatives” and Friedman and Kraus’s “Engineering the Financial Crisis.”

[7] Most relevant, check out page 125 of the 2022 Form 10-K of SVB Financial Group Inc. (Silicon Valley Bank’s former holding company). On page 95, you get the balance sheet, showing $16.3 billion of stockholders’ equity. On page 125, in the notes, you get $15.2 billion of unrealized losses on the HTM securities portfolio.

[8] I’m quoting Byrne Hobart's post about Silicon Valley Bank from Feb. 23, which has become rather famous.

[9] Here is a Twitter thread from Daniela Gabor about this consensus. “With 1990s shift in open market operations from outright purchases (of sovereign bonds) to repo loans against collateral (sovereign or other), central banks adopted 'modern' collateral valuation: - collateral at market price rather than par - haircut on market price. … Until yesterday, in my 15 years of researching central banks collateral I have never heard one single central banker contesting this common wisdom: never, ever par value.”

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101798]

>>54101780
[10] I don’t really know, but if you take its equity capital as of Dec. 31 and subtract unrealized losses on its HTM portfolio you get a barely positive number, and then if you haircut, like, its wine loans at all, you get a negative number. And then stuff only got worse over February and March. Here’s a Jefferies valuation suggesting assets were worth less than its *deposits* as of Friday.

[11] Nathan Tankus tweeted: “A lot of the discussion this weekend is coming close to accepting @rohangrey's argument that any asset a bank is authorized to make should be acceptable collateral at acquisition price at the discount window.”

[Anonymous No.54101821]

>>54096107
kek
This. They are absolutely retarded.

[Money Stuff by Matt Levine from 5 hrs ago No.54101824]

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[Anonymous No.54101859]

>>54100097
Limbaugh had the best parodies hands down.
Now it's NoAgenda or Jimmy Dore.

[Anonymous No.54101864]

>>54094363
this is detrimental for banks not bitcoin
and by the way normies weight nothing at all

[Anonymous No.54101869]

Believing anything a boomer kike faggot says.

[Anonymous No.54101884]

>>54101821
Crypto needs a solid connection to conventional banking to gain widespread acceptance and utility, to actually fulfill whatever promises it is making on a technological level, and theoretically to moon again.

Crypto's sales pitch to anyone not simply trying to out-Ponzi the Ponzis has always involved a transition to commercial use, and it needs banks for that.
The recent stuff with Exchanges gave everyone cold feet and gave the Fed the motivation to start regulating and punishing.

[Anonymous No.54101891]

>>54101344
These guys are wishing upon a wish aren't they?
>IT WAS AN INSURRECTION!!!
They think if they just say something enough that it becomes true.

[Anonymous No.54101923]

>>54101884
You aren't telling me anything. I'm balls deep in the coin that spent their entire existence preparing for this eventuality.
Guess.

[Anonymous No.54101931]

>>54094254
jack shit

[Anonymous No.54101963]

>>54101923
Without legitimate banking, crypto is just a way to fund crime and money laundering that is actually super-transparent as it turns out.
>but not my coin!
yeah, ok.
Without widespread adoption into a financial system it would theoretically start replacing, you just have rare beanie babies.

[Anonymous No.54101998]

>>54101963
XRP.
You know. They one about to settle a massive lawsuit and spent literally the last decade pandering to banks and financial institutions while retards thought they were going to "fight the man."
kek

[Anonymous No.54102047]

>>54101998
Yeah, turns out that being "legit" just focuses the Federal Eye of Sauron on you first.
But between putting the chill on legitimate banking connection (and destroying some banks as an example) and impending Securities Laws that will target crypto, shit is going to get rough.

[Anonymous No.54102073]

>>54094161
KEK
Based TRUMP
the gift that keeps on giving
May he live 1000 years

[Anonymous No.54102075]

>>54102047
Have you ever heard of a dog and pony show?
AMZ, TSL, and MSFT all were sued by the SEC ahead of...

[Anonymous No.54102156]

>>54093703
Nobody gives a fuck about bitcoin. It's already captured and controlled by institutions and you faggots celebrated when it happened.

[Anonymous No.54102236]

This
>>54093678

>>54093596
But your post reminded me of something I was going to throw out to anons...

Boards of directors with high-ranking politicians are rare enough to still be notacable.

The guy who predicted the collapse of FTX and silvergate has been saying all along that Signature and Silicon valley were operating (his words not mine) "money laundering".

So, the questions we have to ask are...
1. How many elected officials have money in the banks at issue? How many of them have so much money as to be above the FDIC limit?

2. Same for family

3. Where did they get the money?

[Anonymous No.54102288]

>>54102236
Trust the plan
-Q

[Anonymous No.54102333]

>>54102156
>Nobody gives a fuck about bitcoin
wrong
>captured
wrong
>controlled
wrong

kek
what are you holding? I'm holding my laughter for now

[Anonymous No.54102493]

>>54093703
This.
Crypto will moon, but people wont have off-ramps to get out. Even P2P transaction will be flagged.

[Anonymous No.54102504]

>>54093596
Unironically bullish

[Anonymous No.54102528]

>>54093827
>a fake banking crisis
>trust us goys we are totally solvent
>they did it because of your cryptos

[Anonymous No.54102533]

>>54095538
>not wanting qt3.14 starving north korean gf
>anon I'm hungry... anon where are you?

[Anonymous No.54102633]

>>54093644
checked

[Anonymous No.54103929]

>>54102493
>Even P2P transaction will be flagged.
It's a public ledger. Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.54104062]

>>54093694
kys moloch beast system cuckold

[Anonymous No.54104731]

>>54093707
Reddits that way bro

[Anonymous No.54106427]

>>54093908
Govt got rid of the Dodd-Frank Act during the trump era then shut down Franks bank out of spite on Friday...1 month after Kraken case, too.

[Anonymous No.54107252]

Still don't understand why the FED was created and why it is more powerful than the US Government, economically speaking.
The US pays extra to the FED for something they can do themselves, which is print money. Why would the United States need the Federal Reserve?

[Anonymous No.54107384]

>>54101780
So tell me if banks profit from this, why did they all crash?

[Anonymous No.54108077]

>>54101824
Thanks Matt

[Anonymous No.54108096]

>>54093596
>BARNEY FRANK
I thought this guy died years ago.

[Anonymous No.54108117]

>>54107252
Global finance rides on IOU loans and trust. Mainly trust, that the loans are backed and your money is floating there. US economy depends on that trust, so they created the Fed (with private banks) that could verify the IOUs backed with their cash.

[Anonymous No.54108186]

>>54093818
Offramp into what exactly?

[Anonymous No.54108237]

>>54100383
>january mobilization publicised
so where is it?

[Anonymous No.54109719]

>>54093596
>CRYPTO BANK
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.54109737]

>>54108237
i don't think you'll ever get response...

[Anonymous No.54109824]

>>54101891
It does. That's how the nigger cattle's minds work. It's how they went from it being common knowledge that vaccines take at least 10 years of development and testing (that's why they're so safe, goyim) to all going out and shooting themselves up with one made in 6 months for a virus that doesn't even exist.

[Anonymous No.54109904]

>>54102288
o7

[Anonymous No.54109917]

>>54096107
It will work, because people still want dollars more than doge
They're going to force an either/or situation, and your average joe is not only not in crypto, they won't go against big brother even if they are.
Now, crypto isn't going anywhere, so how this plays out in ten years is another story. But the forseeable future? No, they're just going to kill crypto in the US so they can roll out their digital dollar.

[Anonymous No.54110385]

“ SVB’s depositors, who again are largely tech firms and venture capitalists, are all on Twitter a lot and move in herds; when they noticed that SVB was insolvent-ish they all pulled their money out at once. “

How exactly did they know in time to move funds out? This is what I want to know. What accounts or indicators where they looking at?

[Anonymous No.54110429]

>>54110385
svb insiders told their techbro friends and rumors spread and liquidity dried up

[Anonymous No.54110460]

>>54093703
>next time btc
good luck lmao.