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Bearish Bake edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

>> No.53975718

Mother beach bastard bloody bhenchod THE BOIL REDEEMERS

>> No.53975722

Gaps closed tomorrow new gaps

>> No.53975723
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>>53975707
OIL WILL GO TO $100!!!!!!!

>> No.53975724
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>>53975651
This is such alarmist bullshit I refuse to believe that you're any older than 16. Rate hikes were scheduled through 2023 this entire time. The amount of goalpost shifting you faggots do is amazing.

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53975734

Are we going to be bloodred dumping this entire week?

>> No.53975749

>>53975724
You would to if you have been buying 2800 puts for nearly 2 years and trying to influence markets with tweets

>> No.53975750
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>Remaining losses carried forward to 2023: -$21,591

>> No.53975756

>>53975724
You must be 1 year old because there's no other reason you wouldn't remember what was said last year, let alone the year before that when there would be "no raises until late 2023 at the earliest".

>> No.53975758

>>53975750
How did you receive my aggregate 1040 forms?

>> No.53975761

BOIL BOIL BOIL

I AM LIQUIDATED

>> No.53975771

>>53975734
why do you ask the same retarded questions every thread

>> No.53975787
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>>53975771
Because I don't like the previous answer.

>> No.53975788

>>53975771
Did he got any replies, I know I have justen hidden his shitpost

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I demand a refund.

>> No.53975796
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>>53974360
anons im tired exhausted of women leading me on, im taking some gains and experiencing everything women are so desperate for, im going on the trips we planned, the glory, the adventure, the honor, the devotion, the purpose, with or without them and not caring about it.

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>>53975796
Travel is a meme.

>> No.53975809

I am about to purchase a house and I am currently estimating I will have about 1k in savings per month. But.. I also need to shop for a car. Tired of driving older used cars that are unreliable.

>> No.53975813

>>53975809
get a reliable car or lease dumbass

>> No.53975818
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53975818

we used to look up at the stars

>> No.53975821

>>53975807
kind of tipsy right now, not planning on coming back

>> No.53975835
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>>53975813
>fed funds rate at 5%
>leasing

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>>53975821
See you tomorrow!

>> No.53975839

>>53975835
Idiot, yes you

>> No.53975840
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>>53975794
HOOKED

>> No.53975843

>>53975818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7odMzSb6WUQ

>> No.53975854
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53975854

we thinking the next hike is going to be 50bp or 25 again?

>> No.53975861

>>53975835
>depreciating liability

>> No.53975869

>>53975756
No I remember when they said "no rate hikes" in 2021, then in early 2022 they said "okay rate hikes" and now in early 2023 they're saying "yeah rate hikes are definitely going to continue". If you don't see the writing on the wall you deserve to go broke. You can just feel the amount of "wink wink nudge nudge" going on in that statement.

>> No.53975873

>>53975854
Doesn't matter except for the day itself

>> No.53975876
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>>53975854
Gee boss I dunno

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>>53975854
75 bepises

>> No.53975886

>>53975835
You can lease on a 0% apr and use inflation to reduce the asset cost. Many places here are still leasing 4yr at 0% apr intro.
>>53975813
Yeah, my 2000 ranger has a leaking head gasket that has me on edge going anywhere more than grocery store/work. I need to to survive until I move into house I am purchasing though.

>> No.53975888

>>53975876
what am i looking at?

>> No.53975890

>>53975869
First hike was in December 2021

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>>53975854
25

>> No.53975895
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>>53975854
500

>> No.53975902

wtf I was told to come to /smg/ and I'd get sex

>> No.53975905

>>53975861
Realistically a house is also a depreciating asset

>> No.53975913
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>>53975902
here ya go

>> No.53975920

>>53975888
50 benis's worth of cum making a glopping sound onto the fed funds futures

>> No.53975921

>>53975902
No you need to contact your female broker about that.

>> No.53975922

>>53975807
This image is upsetting

>> No.53975924
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>futures

>> No.53975925

>>53975902
yeah but it's not what you think anon........

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>NEO
Buy the cancer diagnostic firm

>> No.53975979

>>53975854
I want jpow to do 100bps to take the bandaid off already

>> No.53975986

This market hates bears. There is no way tomorrow is bigly red. They are going to save this somehow. Get your calls ready. Calls always pay out.

>> No.53975988

>>53975869
Thanks for proving you are a 1 year old.

>> No.53975990

>>53975771
I dunno, why so mad

>> No.53975999
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>>53975979
it'll go that much higher for sure, but it will take longern8rdy

>> No.53976004

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/this-indicator-has-called-every-bull-market-since-1960-here-s-what-it-s-saying-stocks-will-do-now/ar-AA18jFDE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=106b2fd8215b4b1ca738e6027585f134&ei=23

SOXS bros, I don't feel so good.

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>>53975999
i wasted my trips on a typo
>who likes to drink at the closing bell?

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>>53975999
checked, but i want 500+ all at once, like so

>> No.53976021

>>53975999
I like butter but that's way too fucking much. Can't stand it when the bread gets all wet and mushy from a lot of liquids.

>> No.53976028

>>53975999
the butter looked like the wrapper to marzipan which is a really great sweet

>> No.53976043
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>futures

>> No.53976052
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53976052

ABML got a buyer to prepay 20 million for recycled lithium ion battery materials. No dilution coming for this one.
ASTS signed a deal with a defense contractor to shill its satellite 5G internet to the DoD.
ORGN opening its first factory soon.
These three will go up bigly regardless of what the rest of the market does.

>> No.53976057

>>53976043
go to bed

>> No.53976079

I'm glad DXY is finally returning to fair value. All these disinflation promoters getting what they deserve.

>> No.53976094

>>53976079
Not even managed to go above january highs. Bouncing dead cat

>> No.53976102

>>53976057
but its just 10 pm

>> No.53976151

>>53975807
It's actually not. Other countries will often be more afraid to exploit and abuse you than your own.

>> No.53976160

I thought that Senate day was supposed to be softball questions for JPow. These old dudes were baiting him into saying what they wanted to hear so much

>> No.53976162

>>53976094
>DXY at 150.77 right now

anon I...

>> No.53976168

>>53975854
The hike itself isn't that big a deal, but if evidence points to another hot inflation reading with solid economic numbers then expect more 50 in the future to catch back up.

>> No.53976171

>>53975807
only cause 90% of the world is a shithole
tokyo is tight

>> No.53976174

>>53976160
>plz mister Fed man don't raise rates no more. the minorities can't take it!

kek

>> No.53976180

>>53975905
It depreciates itself, but the land itself tends to appreciate it off-set it.

>> No.53976198
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>start talking stocks around work
>regurgitate some bs about jpow and other things I don't know but read on here
>everyone thinks I'm rich

>> No.53976211
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>>53975854
ask the biden and the BLS. they're cooking up the payrolls numbers for friday.

>> No.53976220

>>53975807
Travel with women tends to be a meme. At least in the U.S. Super overpriced. I spent 2k probably on a half week trip to the poconos. Although a plane ticket to Asia/South America can cost as much.. 2k more and you can spend a month having a great time.

>> No.53976252

>>53975707
So J. Powell is going to be speaking again tomorrow. this time to the house of reps:
https://financialservices.house.gov/calendar/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=408623

Will this affect the market at all, or will it not make a difference because he'll might just reapeat the same shit he said yesterday?

Like will options have increased pricing before the speech tomorrow?

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DOLE?

>> No.53976282

>>53976094
It's at a 3 month high. If DXY breaks 108 after CPI and FOMC later this month then we're going straight to new highs.

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>>53976252
>Like will options have increased pricing before the speech tomorrow?
Maybe you should check the VIX and SPY IV.

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53976307

Just filed my taxes...
I have a feeling I did something wrong, don't know what... but something, and the IRS is going to fucking destroy me
But whatever, don't even care anymore

>> No.53976314

I need to get a microscale over the weekend for taking mushrooms with. Guestimating dosing by weighing out 1g and then swapping stems until I get it under 1g is kind a bad metric. Going to take a bigger dose friday though.

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>>53976275
The stock is ROTTEN

>> No.53976318

>>53976307
As long as you imported the forms correctly, the IRS probably doesn't know what you did wrong either. So unless you get a random audit, you're all set.

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I'M GETTING MORE BULLISH!!!

>> No.53976337

>>53976318
I had to set a few things manually because covered calls were imported with missing values, so that was weird. Also, I looked over the generated forms at the end and there were some transactions listed as "not reported to the IRS"... so idk what to think of that. If it's a problem, I'll just write a check and tell them to fuck off, I guess

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>2 year bond yield
>1.07%

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>2 year-10 year yield spread
>1.07%

>> No.53976414

>>53976395
The last time the 2 year was this high was december 2000 lol

>> No.53976420

>>53976368
>2 year bond yield
>1.07%
I can't even imagine what would cause that to have been true. 400 basis points in the blink of an eye. Jesus.

>> No.53976421

>>53976295
>>Like will options have increased pricing before the speech tomorrow?
>Maybe you should check the VIX and SPY IV.
vix does seems to be elevated today.

>> No.53976431

what speech is happening tomorrow?

>> No.53976432
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>>53976414
The last time the 2 year and 10 year were this inverted was 1980.

>> No.53976434

10 hrs and 35 min before the next real BOIL action.

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Oh good... the IRS "Accepted" my return already
I guess I'm all good (until I get audited)
I fucking love going through this shit every god damn year

>> No.53976438

>>53976307
i've heard they only get upset if you get audited and withhold information or knowingly withhold funds they know you owe
so my strategy is to do my best and just work out a payment plan with whatever the taxman demands of me if i fuck up

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>futures

>> No.53976471

>>53976438
Yeah, I think you mentioned that before (assuming you are who the poster I think you are)
Good news is I'm getting almost $3500 refunded, so I'll just dump that into my savings account for when the IRS shows up guns drawn to claw it back

>> No.53976472

>>53976438
The thing that really gets the IRS triggered is if you do the itemized deduction and claim a whole bunch of shat. Most people unless they've got very special tax situation would get more back by just doing the standard option instead. The rest of it is merely imputing all the information on the forms that the software asks for is all you need.

>> No.53976484

>>53976472
>The thing that really gets the IRS triggered is if you do the itemized deduction and claim a whole bunch of shat.

This.

>> No.53976501

>>53976275
I sold the top

>> No.53976505

>>53976431
>what speech is happening tomorrow?
i think powell speaks before the house tomorrow.

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Does he know what he's doing?

>> No.53976542

>>53976505
The house is even more of a circus than the Senate. He'll be forced to make hawkish statements because reps want sound bites of them talking about muh inflation

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Nokia.

>> No.53976564

>>53976004
>if you think 6% inflation is the new 2%

We're going fucking down.

>> No.53976569

If I'm doing a swing trade that will last 14-50 days and need to buy like 300 shares to do it, how viable is it to just use options instead? I figure I could buy long-dated calls, and either get like 3 deep ITM ones, or 12 OTM ones with 25 delta. All things being equal, this should be the same risk/reward, no? At the end of the day I'm trading with net 300 delta

>> No.53976582

>>53976471
Its not refunded, its money owed to you. But independently it doesn't make sense probably to do estimated taxes. Just a lot of headache. I am also getting back 2300 but most of mine is just going to be liquidity for buying a house and getting it in proper living condition.

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I fucking hate my fellow Americans. XL shirts are already kinda baggy but short in arms but XXL is like wearing a poncho and may or may not have longer arms.

>> No.53976586

>>53976314
I have one from when you could weigh booster packs, you can have it

>> No.53976590

>>53976586
I got to justify this amazon subscription somehow. Now they don't want to prime deliver food I should honestly cancel it.

>> No.53976592

>>53976582
>buying a house
What interest rate are you looking at?

>> No.53976603

>>53975724
>>53975869
JPow can say whatever the fuck he wants, whats important is that markets for the longest time throughout all of 2022 have been trying to fight the Fed and push for/price-in a pivot and a return to low interest rates, and they thought the cooler inflation reading of November and December was the end of the rate hikes, they rallied in January because of that, now that inflation came in hotter on the last CPI report the market is shitting itself in fear that inflation and higher interest rates are here to stay for much longer than anticipated. It's really not that hard to follow.

>> No.53976606

>>53976582
>Its not refunded, its money owed to you
Well it's both. It's a refund... that is owed to me, because I paid too much through withholding over the course of the year (which was my own fault, I admit)

>> No.53976608

>>53976592
7%. It's actually better than when I started. Bank of America was charging a 1.43% origination fee. Now the origination fee is like .7% or something. Once I get through summer and start receiving my regular teacher paychecks again I will be chucking the remaining cash I have on hand back into the mortgage locking in them gains and equity.

>> No.53976616

>>53976586
>from when you could weigh booster packs
Is that not a thing anymore? My friend showed me that and it was pretty cool. I guess collector boxes flooded the market with foils so it's not viable

>> No.53976617

>>53975854
Market was on the fence and still is to a certain extent, but after today 50 bps is going to start being priced in more and taken more seriously for the next FOMC- until or unless cooler inflation numbers start appearing in the new batch of data this month.

>> No.53976643

>>53976542
Good. He should be as hawkish as possible so we can get this shit overwith already. The longer you drag this shit out, the longer your precious bull market casino gets postponed. Dont fight the Fed, retard.

>> No.53976646

>>53976643
If the highest yield is on the 6 month, does that mean the market is pricing in extremely rough times during that period?

>> No.53976676

>>53976646
Currently market is expecting the peak then for rates to be in six months.

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I just crawled out from a rock and bought MMM before close. what happened today?

>> No.53976694

Uhhhh is this guy right?
I think I need a better job.
One that has stock based compensation for me
(I have no skills or experience)

https://twitter.com/compound248/status/1633271686341578753

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>>53976687
nuts

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>>53976582
Good luck with that

>> No.53976727

>>53976720
I'd say it currently is valued at 220k at peak condition. I am currently paying for about 150k-160k which will get it to peak condition buying from other family and restoring it.

>> No.53976729

>>53976569
Not even close to the same risk. Your options are way more leveraged than shares, even if you get ITM ones. If your trade takes too long to pan out you just lose to theta, and if you're wrong unrolling the trade incurs greater losses than just shares.

>> No.53976742

>>53976694
There's all kinds of background check services now that will have some kind of data in them for pretty much any period that will contradict your claims, is my bet.

>> No.53976749

>>53976198
Bad move. You don't want people to think you have money.

>> No.53976753

>>53976729
Meh, theta doesnt really kick in badly until 30 days before expiration. LEAPS are ok and pretty conservative for options.

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>all this handwringing over a nothingburger testimony
anyways.
AAPL is still above 150, well on its way to 170. SPX is still going to 4700 later this year. We're not going any lower than 3500, you missed the bottom bobo.
>b-but 50bps!
kek.

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>10y at 4.001%

>> No.53976767

I didn't take profits on my LNG option friday when it was worth $43/s. I sold it Monday for $37/s even. Currently that same option is worth barely $30/s. Been learning how to take profits.

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>>53976765
that's 4 handles and a pip. wow.

>> No.53976778

>>53976694
Why are zoomers so fucking retarded?

>> No.53976784

>>53976729
>>53976753
>Your options are way more leveraged than shares, even if you get ITM one
Right now, a Jan 2024 SPY call at 420 has 50.7 delta. If I needed 300 delta, I would buy 6 of these, for $14,000. This should give me the same amount of risk as 300 shares, which cost $119,500. I'm only spending 10% as much, which means I can have more active trades on the go at a time. Options have other things too, like gamma and vega, but for a short term trending trade, the effect should be negligible.

>> No.53976789

bros... is soxs over?

>> No.53976812

>>53976643
I like how confident bobos get any time we have over 1% drop.

>> No.53976840

>>53976784
If you're working with that much capital, I would add in selling options to your strategy as well, a mix of going long and short premium together. Perhaps forgoing going long premium and instead opting to short premium altogether. Look into credit spreads, or just straight up even sell cash-secured puts. If your bullish with a specific price target in mind, and want a mixed long/short premium position, perhaps look into butterfly spreads where the short call contract of the strategy is just above the resistance of your target price. With that much capital you dont need to do just yolo all of it on going long premium, you have the tools to reduce your cost basis or even just collect a credit altogether and let theta decay work in your favor.

>> No.53976841
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53976841

Henry Hub is a disgrace. He's got this natural gas, it's more like natural ASS because it smells so bad you can barely even stand it. Very very bad, there's nothing "natural" about it. I knew a guy, he invested in BOIL. Now he's broke. His money is gone, totally gone. It's a very sad thing. Probably the saddest thing I've ever seen.

>> No.53976846

>>53976812
You mean like the confidence you bulltards had after that stupid mechanical short squeeze rally based on some stupid nothingburger comment from a non-voting Fed member?

>> No.53976860

>>53976841
Oh good, maybe another dip to buy!

>> No.53976867

>>53976846
I'm confident in my long position 24/7 because history has proven it is the right thing to do. And it's quite effortless too, I just keep buying and get rewarded for it, if not this year then in a decade

>> No.53976874

>>53976840
>If you're working with that much capital
I'm not, that's just an example (since SPY is liquid). My trading account is about $9,000, and this is going to be for more active trading. Mostly I'm just seeing if it makes sense to incorporate options into it to use leverage and have more efficient use of capital on my trades.
My long holds are in a TFSA, and one of my goals is to get 100 shares of WMT this year (I have 80 currently). I will be writing CCs and CSPs against it for extra income, which I calculated to be a 2-3% annual return on capital, with conservative strikes that shouldn't get executed. This is on top of whatever dividends and growth it normally has, too.
I actually need to move more capital into risk-off assets (PMs and GICs/bonds) so that I can keep compounding, I should have a 75:25 equity/bond portfolio apparently, which works out to about $15k in safe assets.

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>>53976846
All we did was close the gap from last friday. It's all going pretty much exactly the way we want it to.
>pullback due to 50bps rumors + senate testimony, rope in as many bobotards as possible expecting new lows
>pump when CPI comes in well within expectations, make bobo think he's getting the short entry of a generation pre-fomc
>meltup after fomc confirms 25bps
easy.

>> No.53976882

>>53976867
based boglebro

>> No.53976902

>>53976874
With 9k I'd look into strategies that incorporate shorting premium. Butterfly spreads and credit spreads on high IV Rank stocks. Butterfly spreads especially can significantly reduce the cost of a trade, place theta decay in your favor and be extremely profitable.

Cash-secured puts cant be wirtten against a position you already own like Covered Calls by the way. Well, they can, but it would be a separate transaction entirely and would lock up the outstanding capital in your account- and if you already own the shares (which is bullish already), its pretty pointless. Sell cash-secured puts on high IV Rank stocks that you dont own (but perhaps wouldnt mind owning should your strike get crossed and the shares assigned to you).

>> No.53976911
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53976911

hmmmmmmm

>> No.53976916

>>53976608
That's steep. I have a VA loan at 3.5% and I hate paying interest. Good luck my friend

>> No.53976922

>>53976902
>Cash-secured puts cant be wirtten against a position you already own like Covered Calls by the way
Actually, in TFSAs in Canada, you can't short puts, even if you have the cash to do so. Regulations. The workaround here is to actually be long on the shares and write a deep ITM call against them. Ergo, with 200 shares of whatever company, I can successfully wheel it and lower my cost basis over time.

>With 9k I'd look into strategies that incorporate shorting premium
Last year I lost about 3k in options trades. Not from IV crush or otm or 0dte gambling either, mostly buying short-dated directional spreads on news events and losing pretty consistently. To be fair, I didn't really look at TA doing it either, so that was entirely on me. Still, it's much easier to backtest equities than options, even with all the calculators available. Historical option data is pretty tricky to find

>> No.53976923

>>53976877
We have a very clear rejection off the 4050 level of the Emini on the Daily Chart, this shit is going lower.

>> No.53976928

>>53976174
Wtf i love rate hikes now

>> No.53976933

>>53976916
Yeah I am not really sure if the best course of action is just pay it off earlier. It would seem that that's at least a sure thing. Or if I should have my money in a market account since the tightening cycle isn't over yet. Down the road once things relax and the feds got to print through it can refinance it to nothing.

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53976935

>Futures?

>> No.53976937

>>53976414
We all know what happened in the early 2000's

>> No.53976948

>>53976922
>Actually, in TFSAs in Canada, you can't short puts

Damn that sucks.

>mostly buying short-dated directional spreads on news events and losing pretty consistently.

Depending on how Bullish you are, perhaps consider selling a call with a shorter expiration date, and longing a call with a longer expiration date. That way at least your cost basis can be reduced with a lower risk of your position being called away.

>> No.53976959

>>53976948
I've tried a few different strategies here and there too, including ratio backspreads, iron condors, and atm straddles (on news). Maybe what I'll do is do some paper trades on the weekend and monitor how they'd do over the next week and find something I can win consistently at.

>> No.53976964

I wanna sell all my shit really badly now. How are you supposed to hold for a long time when the economic system just perpetually shits itself all the time?

>> No.53976972
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>>53976923
>February 1st, 37 ema crosses over 200 daily
>15/19 instances in the past 30 years have preceded fresh all time highs
I'll take those odds.

When every retard that started trading in 2020 on youtube and twatter is yammering on about a recession you fucking slam that green button.
Powell will get his soft landing.

>> No.53976978

>>53976582
>But independently it doesn't make sense probably to do estimated taxes.
I didn't estimate my taxes last year, the penalty wasn't that bad. This year is different. Interest rates are at 7% for Q1 and likely rising in later quarters due to further rate hikes. You have to pay those interest penalties if you're late.
State tax penalties for skipping estimated taxes vary, but for my state it's 18% interest penalty so that's essentially mandatory.

The estimate number you owe is actually pretty easy to calculate, just 100% of previous year tax split into 4 quarterly payments. June quarter is only 2 months due to some retarded historical reason, but you should still keep payment sizes identical. You can deduct whatever you're already contributing via your W2 withholding. Another option is to just increase that withholding outright by submitting a form at your work, assuming your employed.

If you're sitting on cash or treasuries, might as well close some out and pay up to meet the quarterly estimates. If you're actively using margin in your portfolio then skipping estimates is likely a cheaper and more reliable source of a bit of extra leverage.

>> No.53976991

>>53975761
why? Its not even down?

>> No.53976996

>>53976933
Follow the guideline. Have 6 months in savings, max out your 401k, roth, hsa, etc. Then start beefing up your mortgage payments. You'll be fine

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53976997

bepus

>> No.53977000

>>53976978
Well actually yeah it makes sense with rates rising that its no longer cheap to defer taxes on a payment plan. I owe about 7k in taxes on a payment plan now from an inheritance. Of course the next year I lose 52k.. so

>> No.53977001

>>53976964
That’s high inflation for you, inflation destroys economies it’s totally demoralising

>> No.53977006

>>53976972
>37 ema
That seems like a random length, what's the logic here?

>> No.53977011

>>53976959
>atm straddles (on news)

These will get you IV crushed if you're doing long straddles. IV rank rises highest before anticipated news then gets crushed after the price action finally makes its move after the news is released. Even with a big move in your direction, IV dropping can crush the profitability of your option trade to 0 or even negative. With a high IV rank, the best way to make money is to sell options on the basis the IV will fall back down again and you can buy to close your position for much cheaper than the credit you earned for selling them.

>> No.53977020

>>53975707
We're almost half way to the bottom

>> No.53977021

>>53976996
Yeah I am going to end up debt maxing seemingly as I take on this home and a car payment since I have a ton of anxiety about my truck not being functional and every single used car is a shitshow.

>> No.53977022
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53977022

>>53976687
jpow said "no srsly bby you have to listen to what i'm telling you"
or something, i obviously didn't watch

>> No.53977030

>>53975809
>new cars
>reliable
>he doesn't maintain his own vehicle
>he is essentially a women

>> No.53977031

>>53977011
I'm aware, when I was doing it, it was on low IV companies, expecting sharp movements. Still, I didn't put in the work to make sure it was a profitable strategy beforehand and paid the price.
Having said that, my $3k in capital losses can be applied to my WMT shares when I divest them from my company plan and move them into my TFSA, so there's a silver lining.

>> No.53977037

>>53976972
>markets tried to make a new high on a mechanical short squeeze rally and clearly failed
>but hey some random ema that nobody uses did something, YOLO

>> No.53977038

>>53977000
It's a bit awkward paying estimated taxes on cap gains knowing you might end the year with no gains to report, but that's just something I've come to accept.

>> No.53977039

>>53976964
Yes do it sell give in to the bobo

>> No.53977048

>>53977030
Blown head gasket is outside of normal maintenance. I am currently babying it with using head gasket cleaner and maintaining enough fluid in it for casual driving but its a ticking time bomb. The core of the truck is not worth sinking more money into. The engine is at 180k and the body is pretty well worn too.

>> No.53977052

>>53977022
the move since oct has been pretty great honest I dont even give a shit what powel says anymore other then not buying the day before.

>> No.53977060

>>53977031
Try selling premium on high IV rank options next time and see how it works out for you. This is what most of the professional options traders out of Chicago do. Very rarely will you see someone proficient in options trading just buying naked long premium except for the occasional fun gamble. Keep at it and see if you can find something that works for you.

>> No.53977062
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53977062

Fed whisperer Nikileaks is just telling you it's gonna be 50 brapis

>> No.53977068
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53977068

CPI is going to beat next week... only thing stopping this rally is China invading Taiwan.

>> No.53977088
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53977088

>futures

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>>53977006
You're right, it's totally random, sell everything now.
>>53977037
We were due for a pullback. We had been going up for months since october. You should be thanking your lucky stars they gave you a chance to buy in under 4000.
Remember, as January goes, so goes the rest of the year.

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>>53977062
>only surprisingly weak data will prevent that outcome now.

Unemployment is going to be good. and markets will crash on Friday. only to rally once CPI is released.

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>>53977068
>CPI beat = rally

>> No.53977109

A thought: if a fund manager can buy other funds, what prevents them from havong indirect exposure to themselves? Wouldnt this make the markets largely self fulfilling?
Eg Fund A has 20% exposure to Fund B, and Fund B has 20% exposure to Fund A.

>>53977060
I assume I want less than 100% rank since it means that its come off the high. What sort of spread? Condors? Bull/bear call/put spreads? Calendar? I like vega and calendar spreads from when I messed around

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>>53977104
You know what i meant faggot. CPI is going to come in lower than projected.

>> No.53977126

>>53977089
>more permabull tealeaf reading
pathetic
screencapping your post for when we retest last year's lows

>> No.53977139

>>53977089
I just threw up a 37 SMA and the rally of the second half of last week was a retest of it as resistance after we dipped below it during the first half of that same week, and the red candle stick of today was a very clear rejection off of it. Even with your indicator, this shit still is showing signs it wants to go lower.

>> No.53977141

>>53977109
I'm not stupid enough to understand what youre getting at, but youre wrong

>> No.53977148

>>53977126
Behead this poster

>> No.53977167

>>53977109
As long as IV Rank is above 50% you can sell options for some fat stacks. Up to you how aggressive you want to be with your selection. I recommend something simple like a directional credit spread to test the waters. Sell an option at a certain strike for some fat premium, then buy a cheaper OTM option further away from your strike to cover your position in case it goes against you. The difference between the higher premium short option and the cheaper further out the money long option is your profit. Then just kick back and let theta and vega work in your favor.

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>>53977126
they laughed at me when I said we'd pump back when the yen was pushing 150 in october and I told these very threads that yellen had had enough and intervened. That was the bottom.
If anything, the responses from these threads only galvanized my belief that we're going so much fucking higher.
>>53977139
As long as the weekly 37 ema holds it's all good.

>> No.53977191

>>53977174
>As long as the weekly 37 ema holds it's all good.

It is holding- as resistance

>> No.53977201

>>53977109
Corporations sometimes own each other's shares, especially in Germany and Japan. It's not part of some Enron-style fraud; it makes the two corporations allies who have an incentive to succeed together as a group. It's also protection against hostile takeovers. It does makes analysis difficult.

>> No.53977205

>>53977191
The candle hasn't closed yet. Zoom out unironically. The monthly 37 is holding beautifully.

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53977209

ack

>> No.53977220

Honestly the fed should just market buy 1 billion dollars worth of the market daily, compounding geometrically until morale is restored.

>> No.53977222

>>53977205
What about the yearly 37?

>> No.53977224

>>53977205
Lol its only March 7th- and this current monthly candle has a long rejection wick above its body currently (from todays red rejection). Still 24 more days to go and you're not off to a great start.

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>>53977209
That shit is unironically becoming a real driver of inflation. kek. More fiscal spending = more dollars they have to print and more money circulating.
And still the retards on twatter think 50bps is actually on the table
>b-but nick tiramisu said 50bps!!
kek

>> No.53977241

>>53977229
In my opinion, Powell needs to say tomorrow that “If Congress doesn’t stop the taxing and spending and regulation, we are going to go to 15% and the US will be in crisis.”

>> No.53977244

>>53977113
it's called a miss

>> No.53977245

Why can’t I find rate hike odd for the BOE like I can for the federal reserve?

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I have so many indicators pointing to a lower CPI print for FEB. it's kind of shocking how obvious it is. Maybe only to me.. Gets me a little excited.. I was a bear a week ago... starting to shift...maybe a little too quick...

I hope the quants and ctas don't read this to fuck up my play and we just crab for another two weeks while making lower lows.. That would piss me off.

>> No.53977255

gamma exposure went (slightly) negative today
prepare thy anuses for increased volatility and larger magnitude moves
>inb4 CRBPajeet tries to argue that negative gamma isn't volatile and that flat gamma is more volatile

>> No.53977258

>>53976505
>>what speech is happening tomorrow?
>i think powell speaks before the house tomorrow.
Will him speaking have any effect on the market? Or will it do nothing cause he already spoke today?

>> No.53977260

>>53977229
>twitter

It's definitely not just Twitter.

https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html?redirect=/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>> No.53977266

>>53977244
A miss would be bearish..

>> No.53977276

>>53975807
>>53976151
travel is mostly gay. I was premier 1k on united for two years because of work. I got to see a lot of places and it wasn't that cool. Except for Germany. I like that place

>> No.53977279

>>53977068
You're delusional.
Buy SOXS.

>> No.53977280

>>53977260
I seriously doubt you can notice when gamma changes values. It's literally just price of options and price of underlying. That's made up to say gamma has changed and will stay lower.

>> No.53977282

The market is once again wrong, there's literally no reason to be bearish and no reason to expect 50 BPs. I'm doubling down on my ARKK and Chainlink positions this week.

>> No.53977285

>>53977229
I'd screencap this post if I cared about proving random weebs wrong

>> No.53977286

>>53977282
>no reason to expect 50 BPs
Jerome Powell said that he plans to hike rates faster and higher.

>> No.53977291

>>53977255
Odte options being normalized means that if the market has a red dildo of enough magnitude in a short time expect circuit breakers.

>> No.53977293

>>53977282
I don't believe you

>> No.53977295

>>53977282
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerome-powell-to-testify-to-congress-on-outlook-for-rates-inflation-e4e7f1e3
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/07/1161623217/federal-reserve-jerome-powell-senate-inflation-interest-rates-economy-recession

>> No.53977297

>>53977260
I'll admit it's not looking good for us 25bps bros but I remain of the opinion that this is all manipulation to accumulate from lower.
The very instant the clock ticked 10:00 am, futures dumped. before he had even said a word, and rate hike odds soared. But nothing he said changed anything. It's all noise.

>> No.53977298

>>53977167
Well thanks, I'll give it a try I guess.
Volatility usually inverses the markets. That is, volatility rises when price declines. If I expect volatility to rise, then a bear put spread benefits from both vega and theta, no? Likewise, a bull debit spread should favor rising prices and falling IV... this lets you double up on favorable exposure.
But in the concept of pairs trading, you use one asset to hedge the other and take the difference on the spread. So it might be better to eg long vega and hedge with theta decay, while staying delta neutral etc

>> No.53977300

>>53977282
>Chainlink
might as well just donate that money tk charity.

>> No.53977313

>>53977297
>manipulation to accumulate from lower
The people who decide the bepises don't care one bit about the price action of equities

>> No.53977323

>>53977300
Why are Bulgarians in the stock market general?
>>53977295
I don't believe the media, they constantly lie and are generally permabears.
>>53977286
IF the data gets worse, the next CPI will be better as seen by truflation, powered by Chainlink. https://truflation.com/

>> No.53977324

>>53977282
……

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>>53975707
So DOLE only reported "higher" earnings because of the fact that inflation made their products more expensive. They didn't sell anymore product than usual right? If that's the case what is the bullish case for DOLE? They also announced a 0.08 cent dividend, I mean the board has to be confident on returning steady gains if they're giving out divvies right??

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>>53975707
>>418888888

>> No.53977381

>>53977298
>Volatility usually inverses the markets. That is, volatility rises when price declines

Generally yes. This is a reason why put contracts tend to be more expensive than call contracts- because when prices fall, they fall faster and more quickly and with more volatility than when they rise- and options take this volatility in when pricing their contracts. However this is not always the case. A ton of idiots on WallStreetBets lost money buying puts after the short squeeze spike in GME betting it would go down. Well, they were right, except they got IV crushed on the way down and ended up losing money on the trade. A better way to have shorted GME in that scenario would have been to sell Calls above the current high price to collect the fat IV Rank premium and then take advantage of the IV crush and bearish price direction to keep your earned credit safe. Just as an example. Generally you want to sell calls when you are Bearish on a high IV rank stock, and sell puts when you are Bullish on a high IV rank stock. Having the bulk of your trade being centered around being long premium should only be done when IV rank low. This is the conservative safe way at least.

>> No.53977390

>>53977353
The bull case is that their 3% divvy grows with inflation, whereas 5% treasury yield does not. TIPS only yield around 1.5%.

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>>53977282
>no reason to expect 50 BPs
Reminder that we have every reason to expect 50 BPs.

>> No.53977403

>>53977229

It's likely going to happen or else why bring it up. You're right we can't afford 'higher for longer', but we also won't be high for that long because the economy is gonna fucking die soon.

The debt situation requires either austerity or high inflation screwing bond holders. The Fed is engineering a crisis deliberately as part of a planned showdown to try to force austerity on Congress to gut SS and Medicare. Soon Congress will be faced with tanking tax receipts and huge unemployment, and voters screaming at them to 'do something'. Meanwhile the Fed will try to demand these budget changes (at the worst possible time, politically) before agreeing to finance the stimmy checks.

They are doing this on behalf of big US bond holders because that's who controls them. When Larry Summers talks about what the Fed needs to do, he's giving JPow orders. Yes, it's loony. Yes, it's probly not gonna work. Yes, refusing to finance stimmies will probably get JPow shitcanned. But that's Wall St's big dumb plan.

>> No.53977409

Is DEO anon still intending to get in under 169? It is getting close.

>> No.53977424

>>53977381
>A better way to have shorted GME in that scenario would have been to sell Calls above the current high price to collect the fat IV Rank premium and then take advantage of the IV crush and bearish price direction
Is this with a high but falling IVR? I dont trade meme stocks because while theyre volatile, you dont know when a retard pump will happen that wrecks your trade

>> No.53977437

>>53977282
Show us the buy orders

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53977442

this is your friendly neighborhood chicken here to remind you that the bottom is when SPY hits 180

>> No.53977482

>>53977403
>refusing to finance stimmies will probably get JPow shitcanned.
Wonder who his replacement will be.

>> No.53977513

>>53977391
Imagine cryptojews being taught twice in the same life time to respect the fed.

>> No.53977518

>>53977403
Not the first time I've heard that Powell is being setup to be the fall guy.

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53977529

>He didn't round up that one number on his taxes
>The IRS has now kidnapped his parents and are threatening to kill them in three days

>> No.53977532

>>53977403
The biggest owner of debt is currently the fed itself. Its still got 17 trillion dollars of debt on hand it can weaponize.

>> No.53977534

>>53977390
see
>>53763825
>it's literally one guy shilling it who is here 24/7
his arguments for why he likes it is
>it has a 3% dividend
>>53763932
>it’s one guy
>Kek.
>You’re bananas. Plenty of us are in Dole and nobody cares about some shitty dividend.
>nobody cares about some shitty dividend
>nobody cares about some shitty dividend
>>53977390
>the bull case is their 3% dividend grows with inflation
Really makes you think
L o l.

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month 14 of waiting for lil bobos big crash where we go sub 3000

two more weeks ?

>> No.53977541

>>53977529
You're supposed to truncate the numbers. Even freefillableforms does it.

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53977609

>doesn't trade on cayman islands broker
>still pays taxes in 2023
ngmi you fucking goy cattle

>> No.53977624

>>53973802
Price to book is literally 1. Some people might see that as an attractive mispricing. I wouldn't, but some people like trading against common wisdom for a high risk play. DFV did this with GME, i can imagine people thinking similarly with intc. I think it's misguided to put such a play in this environment personally though.

>> No.53977650

>>53977291
if that happens again would CBOE still let the options trade for 15 mins afterward?

>> No.53977656

>>53977541
I'm sorry for your parents

>> No.53977677

>>53977624
People expect ROI. Without growth story Intel is dead. Plenty of other companies and assets investors can choose from really. Maybe Intel simply doesn't look attractive to them

>> No.53977683
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It's not too late to DCA into SQQQ. You have months to accumulate
>inb4 le decay fag redditor niggers

>> No.53977688

>>53977683
why do you make retarded posts like this

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>>53977624
>yes, I like to lock-in my money for at least 5 years until I might see any possible return
>there is no way I can make more money on any other trade within this timeframe
what don't people understand about value trap?
INTC is dead until their "5 year roadmap" magically works out (it won't)

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53977697

Remember the Anon who put all his life savings into OTM $28 SILV calls?
Is he ok?

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>>53977688
options have expiration dates but if you know we are trending down DCAing into a 3x inverse ETF is like boglehead DCA investing but for big brained niggas

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>>53976539
inflation... scary!!!... not transit like bus...
maybe make bepis bigger??

>> No.53977717

>>53977700
it's not even funny

>> No.53977739

>>53977717
>t. non-inverse boglehead

>> No.53977748

>>53977532

Well if they dump it they'd spike yields even harder and that'd cause issues too (like blowing up some levered bond funds). JPow's not a bomb thrower I don't think. He's just trying to be an immovable object vs the unstoppable force of populist politics, to force mom and pop middle class people to be the ones to get screwed rather than his billionaire sponsors.

>>53977518

He's either very dumb, or very savvy and he knows what he's signed up for. I think he's got Jamie Dimon and others behind him, and they're gonna force the issue and dare Biden to fire him.

IMO he'd be better served not going for the hard-landing and just straight-talking that inflation was Congress's fault for not balancing the fucking budget, but I guess that's why I'm not in politics.

>> No.53977764

>>53977253
I dunno dude. the car sales were record breaking in February. So it seems people keep spending

>> No.53977773
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53977773

I have held SQQQ since may of last year and I regret nothing.

>> No.53977779

>>53977773
hello fellow inverse boglehead

>> No.53977786

>>53977532
How does the Fed “weaponize” debt? If they made the US government do anything it would show the world the hidden hand that pulls the levers of power and dumdum Americans would be forced to acknowledge the two party system is a distraction and we’re really ruled by the uniparty coupled with rich oligarchs. I can’t see a schism like this working out well for anyone. Much more likely we enter a war under poor pretenses and everything gets nationalized/all the debt gets swept underneath the rug with a fresh start. Much simpler and the elite don’t have to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

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>>53977779
There are literally dozens of us.

>> No.53977790

I JUST WOKE UP; WTF DID HAPPEN YESTERDAY!? CAN'T POWELL THINK OF ALL THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE?! WHY IS THIS FUCKER GAMBLING WITH OUR MONEY!?

>> No.53977792

okay Anons, I am sitting on 200K cash. Should I use this towards down payment or wait for a few more months to buy a house and park the money in stocks?

>> No.53977796

>>53977391
Priced in

>> No.53977800

>>53977792
just wait lots of uncertainty anon. in the meantime, park it in a high interest savings account, 1 year treasuries, or a money market fund

>> No.53977806

>>53977792
market will tank before housing does. put all cash into bottom and then buy a house 6-12 months later at a discount
I have more than that in cash and that's what I'm doing

>> No.53977808

>>53977796
Well yes, that's exactly what happened yesterday bigbrain.

>> No.53977809

>>53977792
just buy bear stocks

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>>53977792
Idk anon you have 100x the money I do. Youd probably best just keep up whatever it is you're doing. Verification not required.

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>>53977790
powell testified before congress and said inflation was sticky, and rates would likely have a higher top than the last meeting. Market expectations recalibrated, you can see on FFER futures: Market took a shit. Expect more pain tomorrow.

>> No.53977821

>>53977792
all in SQQQ and you will be able to afford a much bigger house soon

>> No.53977827

>>53977814
just after Bostic came out and said "it's fine lads" and then market calibrated for that. it's really a shit show
I'm pissed that nobody asked for Jpow to comment on Bostic's comment last week

>> No.53977835

>>53977806
But what stocks should I buy?
I have tech and EV stocks, should I continue to buy more?
Or should I go for stable divi stocks?

>>53977810
Its just money from my wagie cage. Nothing special desu.

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>>53977792
Consult the square, Growth is still falling, and we have already started the disinflationary process: Nominal bonds.

>> No.53977850

>>53977814
Wednesday is Jpow round 2 :^)
prepare for more jewish action

>> No.53977851

>>53977835
VTI/VOO
maybe short with SQQQ like I and >>53977821
are doing. use 5-10% of your cash or w/e

>> No.53977868

>>53977835
also
>I have tech and EV stocks
lmao sell that shit you dumb ass nigga

>> No.53977874

>>53977773
Why didn't you sell in October?

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53977876

Scoopsies, I miss you bb...

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=26m0ny0Vy7I&feature=share

>> No.53977883

>>53977874
>>53977773
Lmao it's worth less now, great ETFs.

>> No.53977886

>>53977773
You aren't suppose to hold bear ETFs that long

>> No.53977889

>>53977850
The relevant shit has basically been said. Like 90% was senators bitching at eachother, and the other 10% was watching Jerome freeze like a deer in a gun range when senators asked him leading questions. Only like 2 novel, valuable sentences came out of Jerome's mouth in the few minutes he was allowed to speak. 99% of his statements were "uh, i guess" just to make his financially illiterate interrogator happy.

>> No.53977892

>>53977253
shut the fuck up you dumb fucking gook

>> No.53977901

>>53977886
this time is different

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>>53977874
I refuse to sell until either SPY 180 or Jpow announces emergency QE, whichever comes first.

>> No.53977918

>>53977905
What if SPY does not go to 180 and fed funds rate goes to 20%? You will be holding forever

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>>53977905
If there are any high test males left in this general (doubt) they have a conservative portfolio of 100% SJIM

>> No.53977937

>>53977827
Dovish shit like this was behind the "transitory" meme. It's not like anybody got fired and replaced. If Bostic was your neighbor; and sold you a sweet muscle car with only 100 miles on it for $5k; and it turned out that he ripped you off and sold you a car with a broken transmission: would you fuckin buy another one from him again? Well, the market would.

>> No.53977939

>>53977925
Hamchad, I miss you

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>>53977925
hi john-chan, why was /smg/ saying u got doxxed?

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>>53977918
If rates go to 20%, the US would be insolvent and in a state of total collapse, and I would be more concerned about the active civil war than some investments. I would still make a (probably futile) attempt to cash out to physical metals before then though.

>> No.53977951

>>53977937
The market would buy baby powder as long as it was packaged as cocaine

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>>53977939
I miss you too bb.
>>53977940
Because I got doxxed

>> No.53977956

>>53975707
What does chef bobo serve?

>> No.53977963

>>53977956
flaming yawn

>> No.53977969

>>53976434
I only need a +25% gap up to break even

>> No.53977970

I just realized today was the full moon. Don't we always take a shit on full moons and rip on new moons?

>> No.53977971

Did you guys know that in India, companies sometimes pay divvies by issuing new shares? I was wondering why cryptard sometimes claimed that this is how divvies work. Now I know why

>> No.53977973

>>53977953
Wtf, I watched the whole thing thinking the title was "Hamchad humiliating a cartel". I was waiting for something to happen, but no, it's carlet.

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Yields...

>> No.53977983

>>53977975
Are anime girls into big yields?

>> No.53977989

China completely destroyed the hangSeng. Turns out concentrating the power to only Papa Xi is not a great idea.
Now if you're long china, you're long that lunatic Xi dictator.
China is really uninvestable

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>>53977953
did they call the ADL on you

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53977998

Not even the FED was able to defeat the optimism in Europe... I fuckin kneel EUbros. I fuckin bet this shitmarket will close green.

>> No.53978000

>>53977983
Yes they love big Yields

>> No.53978004

>>53977989
Speaking of Hang Seng, does anyone know what happened? I thought that the manufacturing index was supposed to be the start of a new bull run

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53978005

I sometimes feel like I might die soon. That's fine. But I don't want to die before I get to wrap up with scoopsies in bed, cuddle, and watch Boku no pico.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=gQn2xzLLSyo&feature=share

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>>53977983
>>53978000
opps

>> No.53978007

>>53977998
>optimism
Weird way to spell "inflation".

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>>53977989
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_of_Chinese_leadership#Sixth_generation

Xi was supposed to be succeeded by someone 10 years younger than him, but like a True Boomer consolidated power. China was able to stave off the boomer menace for a long time, with Xi being the first Boomer leader to take power nearly 20 years later than the US, but like the leaders of the US and Russia he chose to consolidate his power rather than enable the next generation to take over.

This is why china is getting worse and shittier. Because of boomers.

>> No.53978012

mama mia

>> No.53978025

>>53978005
don't lose faith
it's gonna happen soon
stay strong!

>> No.53978029

>>53978007
Inflation is good for the stock market though. Record earnings, they can sack unnecessary people to increase profit, weak currency compared to US dollar and Euro just means even higher profits because (in my case) Scandinavia is highly dependent on export to the US and countries with Euro.
Swedenchads, we just keep on winning. There is a reason why most stocks are either almost at ATH or have set a new ATH despite this "terrible inflationary environment".
That's how the market thinks for now in my opinion

>> No.53978031

>>53977971
I hate Indians so much it's unreal. Country of pathetic scam artists. Why is China supposed to be America's enemy when at least they export hot Asian women. India does more trade with Russia now but they get a pass because they are cow piss drinking street shitting America's brown allies
>>53977975
I'm going to buy some treasuries tomorrow and sleep good at night making more than 5% rather than worrying about this crazy kangaroo market

>> No.53978034

>>53978007
>inflation
Weird way to spell "delusion"

>> No.53978066

>>53978065
>>53978065
>>53978065
>>53978065

>> No.53978072

I don't understand. Retail sales crumbling in germany, but stocks pumping. Nobody will buy shit anymore. What does increased industrial production change in that matter? Full shelves of CONSUME

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>> No.53978134

>>53978072
Nah bro, industry production increasing more and more (and more than the "experts" expected) while retain going slightly down. People are still optimistic. People have become too rich and even with this inflation they can easily indulge in their luxury. Last year's FUD has worn off

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>>53975724
there are too many paranoid bitches lately since we went down to 22k, it's like people freaking out cus hamachi finance made a partnership with a casino project, soon we'll all be back to 25k and we can be cool as usual

>> No.53978168

>>53978134
Nobody is optimistic. It's people buying shit because their inflation expectation was so high, they bought because of that (FOMO). Now the opposite will happen, people won't buy shit, not because of lower inflation expectation, but because they don't want to spend anymore and wait for prices to come down, since they bought everything they need.

>> No.53978181

lol dax pumping again
what the fuck guys, literally people can't stop buying shit. Though germans were close to their money

>> No.53978261

>>53978168
Algos are pushing the price further and further up because they know the market is extremely greedy. And why shouldn't it be? The economy and companies are still going well and have managed to deliver good results for now. Whether rates will start affecting those results in the future is irrelevant because the current greed has set its grip deep into everyone.
Any bad data can be regarded as a mere "transitory" event and as such doesn't matter. In the end, earnings and profits will only keep increasing. The market is always forward looking and it has now called the ECB on their FUD bullshit
I was a bobo last year but I realized I was wrong... the market always and only goes up. The greed is simply too strong

>> No.53978311

>>53978261
>always forward looking
Opinion discarded.

>I was a bobo last year but I realized I was wrong.
If you were a bobo last year, you would have made money until October, what are you talking about?

>> No.53978369

>>53978311
Yeah exactly, but the "war" combined with all the FUD the world was throwing at the market, of course it bloody dropped. But despite all those supposed setbacks and what have you, the earnings are still good and the economy is still growing for most countries.
Actually, a lot of companies are beating expectations and are making insane bank because they can offload most of their costs on the customer who will gladly pay.
EU countries in particular don't seem to give a single shit about inflation. People have way too much money, don't complain even if prices have increased significantly more than the inflation, and peoples' salaries are increasing like crazy which keeps them happy.
Nobody cares about inflation anymore bro.

>> No.53978421

>>53978369
>customer who will gladly pay.
Which is why I asked, what does industrial production mean if retail sales decline (way stronger than anticipated). Companies won't be able to make profits IN THE FUTURE (forward looking) if customer doesn't pay/buy.

>> No.53978548

>>53978421
They declined by mere nothing. The market will take it like a blip on the radar. Yes, it is insane and everybody with a brain understands that we are heading into a crisis (although the size of it is still under debate, imo it won't be as bad as some bobos think but whatever).
Nothing on the horizon is capable of stopping the core inflation since the world is getting greedier and greedier. The banks would have to tighten significantly for it to start going down but that won't happen since the EU is too pussified.
So here is the thing. So far the market is in a great bull run because it has called ECB on their cowardness and since the market is always greedy, it tries to squeeze out as much as possible and ride on the good earnings that companies have delivered so far. But all the data shows the economic situation is getting worse and worse as a whole, meaning that it will catch up to the stock market soon enough.
Yes the market is forward looking but in my opinion it has looked way too far head and will now go into a correction.
Smart man switches between bobo and mumu mode. Ever since January, mumus have had their fill, and justifiably so. Since the banks still haven't done anything to quench the greed, the market will keep pumping regardless of the news
Sorry for my incoherent rambling though. I am also kinda pissed off since the market just keeps bloody pumping

>> No.53978584

>>53978548
>53978548
Retail sales went down -0,3%. They expected +2% MoM. It went down -0,3% MOM after last month which was -5,3%. They expected an upswing, but it went on decreasing.

>Smart man switches between bobo and mumu mode.
Never said I couldn't be a MUMU. Even thought about buying stocks in October, but was Fudded too, albeit indicators signalling a buying opportunity as well as Q4 optimism. Still, for me now the market should go down in the light of rate hikes. I will keep shorting and then take my money and put it into bank for rate returns and keep enough to gamble on oil,cocoa and whatever opportunity arises.