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53700818 No.53700818 [Reply] [Original]

Imagine not getting it yet. You have once chance to make it. Once we leave $6.66 accumulation point behind we are headed to $66.6

These people mock you and think its hilarious. Borderline sexual gratification for them

>> No.53700918

10k btc then moon

>> No.53700925

SWIFT goes live with their testing phase March 20th. Its only about 5 weeks away.

https://www.swift.com/iso20022readiness

Check out their video. They claim this time the date is "definitive".

>> No.53700936

>>53700918

I highly doubt that actually but its possible. Just not likely bottom is probably already in.

>> No.53700956

>>53700818
2/16 soon

>> No.53700969

>>53700956

Notable date but I wouldn't expect anything

>> No.53700973

>>53700925
they better crash the market tomorrow so i can get some cheapies

>> No.53700981

>>53700925
>5 more weeks

>> No.53700988

Still can't believe I paid 25 shekels for my stinkies.

>> No.53701009

>>53700981
Yes March 20th is the exact date given by the speaker in the video of the link I posted. He says verbatim, "this is definitive".

>> No.53701019

>>53700988
Yeah that is unfortunate. I would just be patient at this point. I remember buying some at $0.50 watching it dump to $0.17 and I just bought more.

>> No.53701026

Schitzo number anon is my favorite guy on this forum. He is smarter than all of you negroids.

>> No.53701030

>>53700973

Hard to say what the CPI is going to look like.

>> No.53701067

>>53701026

Kek Thank bro. We've had some awesome Schizo Number threads together in the past with excellent discussion but usually they deleted and I'm banned for 3-7 days if we get into esoterics, beneficial lifestyle choices, navigating the future etc. Its unfortunate.

Some times I title them "Chainlink is a part of a Luciferian plot by the WEF/elites". They almost always get deleted though because it branches off into those other topics I mentioned above and because mods/jannies are compromised by the Chainlink team, power players accumulating, or established systems that plan on using the technology for less ideal means like CBDCs as an example.

>> No.53701086

>>53701067
We know Anon. We likely have chatted on the past about this, but we all know. This shit is happening and anons are coming along for the ride. We know, everyone knows . Those who refuse to see are blinded by arrogance and ignorance. Elites are kicking us while we’re down.

>> No.53701124

>>53701086
>everyone knows

Most people don't. Maybe those who frequent the boards but in the real world almost no one really knows.

>>53701086
>Elites are kicking us while we’re down.

I don't see it that way

>> No.53701188

>>53701124
I sometimes wonder if I was lucky to learn all this knowledge or if I just went down a weird rabbit hole that doesn’t necessarily lead anywhere.

>> No.53701261
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>>53701188

I'm blessed for it. The amount of spiritual, financial, and physical/health knowledge I've gained from 4Chan that I've actively applied to my life has been invaluable.

Information and concepts I likely wouldn't have been introduced to anywhere else and that I was able to do further research on once I was privy to the initial understanding.

>> No.53701295

>>53701261
>spiritual, physical, emotional, etc
absolutely

>> No.53701346

>>53700925
You're a smart lady. Let me ask you a question. What do you think is going to happen with LINK on March 20th?

>> No.53701374

>>53701346
>What do you think is going to happen with LINK on March 20th?

Probably nothing. Its not just going to magically pump that day. That being said SWIFT actually moving the needle towards their ISO 20022 for cross-border payments and reporting interoperability initiative WILL make it pump eventually.

I'm a rather patient man.

CCIP is coming this year I don't think they will delay it again. Its possible it could coincide with SWIFT happenings. No one knows.

>> No.53701383

>>53701374
ISO 20022 messaging system*

>> No.53701409

>>53701383
its 2023, anon. the elites are retarded

>> No.53701430

>>53701067
>Chainlink is a part of a Luciferian plot by the WEF/elites
Don't you find it interesting that the 4th industrial revolution book by Klaus Schaub name drops smartcontract.com (Chainlink's website); however the book came out before Chainlink went public.

>> No.53701478

>>53701409
>the elites are retarded

They would have you think that. Normal people love to believe they are just incompetent and not actively carrying out plans that have been prepared for a long time with higher ordered consequences that are 10 steps out.

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>>53701430
>the 4th industrial revolution book by Klaus Schaub name drops smartcontract.com

In the book, it said smartcontract.com was leading the path to help smoothly transition legacy financial infrastructure into distributed ledger based technology.

I started researching LINK heavily after that and made my first purchase within 2 weeks of reading that book.

Pic rel didn't have that excerpt in it it was a different edition of the 4th IR that did but I like how they used LINK's logo for another edition.

We were told years ago what the plans were for Chainlink

>> No.53701597

>>53701430

I also believe its why Smartcontract.com eventually became Chainlink Labs.

Everyone could make the connection to easily that Chainlink was going to be huge in the future and had immense institutional support.

>> No.53701939

>>53701512
>>53701597
I actually didn’t know this crumb. So Sergey has legit ties to the WEF.

>> No.53702061

>>53701261
That restore the balance screen cap keeps me holding on to my chainlink...the consequences for the future I can't imagine but I know how my wealth will be used.

>> No.53702232

BUMP BUMP BUMP

>> No.53703191

>>53701939

I think it that specifically meant more legitimate ties with SWIFT over the WEF. That being said, they also have ties with the WEF too.

Sandro Salsano, who is a South American, billionaire was an angel investor since the start for Chainlink and closely connect to Schwab.

Salsano was acknowledged as a young global leader for the WEF. I believe that was the title something along those lines.

Chainlink also got some further recognition from the WEF as well. Something about being a Top 100 Technology Pioneer in 2020.

>> No.53703328

>it's another episode of trannies trying to hype up a completely irrelevant date in a futile attempt to cause fomo

>> No.53703342

>>53703328

You didn't read the thread which is sad because its like 30 replies.

I explicitly stated that its not going to magically pump on March 20th but it is good news because SWIFT is finally moving the needle.

>>53701374

>> No.53703345

>>53703328
this thread is mostly about the fact that LINK goes back to $6.66 a hundred times in a row

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>>53703342
>Imagine not getting it yet. You have once chance to make it. Once we leave $6.66 accumulation point behind we are headed to $66.6
>SWIFT goes live with their testing phase March 20th. Its only about 5 weeks away.
>They claim this time the date is "definitive".
>bottom is probably already in
>just be patient
>CCIP is coming this year I don't think they will delay it again
yeah buddy, this isn't a thinly veiled hype FOMO thread, I'm terribly sorry for the misunderstanding
pic rel is what will end up happening, again, pretty much what always happens with Chainlink's breadcrumbs

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>>53703372

>> No.53703414

>>53703191
Delete this now for your own good

>> No.53703420

>>53703372
>yeah buddy, this isn't a thinly veiled hype FOMO thread, I'm terribly sorry for the misunderstanding

I absolutely do not care if people buy or not. I don't need them too. Yes, though Chainlink is one of the only legitimate projects in the space that has a future. There aren't many where its obvious. I'd say BTC, ETH, LINK, and maybe AVAX off the top of my head.

Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they should buy, sell, hold, or disregard the project. That being said, I've never been more sure myself this is the place to be.

No hype. Do what is right for your personal situation.

Not every initiative they are indirectly part of will succeed. They are just a tool being used by other projects. Some will make it and others will fail.

>> No.53703428

>>53703345

Yes, its apparent there is serious accumulation around that price point. Its sketchy but a positive sign for future price action.

>> No.53703433

>>53700818
LINK is a fucking SCAM, stop promoting it here you fucking PAJEET

FUCK SERGEY

SERGEY IS A FUCKING FAT RUSSIAN FRAUDSTER, WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK FOR YOUR FAILED PROJECT, FUCK OFF

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>>53703414

Bro....Your ID

>WEF

>> No.53703444

>>53701261
As a fellow 17 holder, thinking about it, my knowledge and understanding of the world really has improved from link threads like these.

It is actually possible that you were the one that recommend the power of now a few years back. And that book among many other things taken from threads has definitely improved my life.

Here is hoping to some definitive swift action

>> No.53703445

>>53700969
Dude how can you start a schizo numbers thread two days before 2/16 and not even give it the time of day. 6x6x6. Cult of Pythagoras. Come on!!! Plus, check out when staking was released when the date is written in the European style- 6/12.

>> No.53703457

>>53703433

Nice dubs. Also kill yourself

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>>53703445

I mean maybe we will be pleasantly surprised. I understand the esoteric significance but I just wouldn't count on anything is all.

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>>53703420
every institutional connection they've had so far has turned out to be a total flop, you can't name a single initiative that actually took off, so what makes you think SWIFT will be different? why is this PoC more significant than the sibos 2016 one? what purpose would CCIP serve to SWIFT when every L1 is useless trash? how do you seriously expect that the banking industry, which is notorious for implementing changes at a snail's pace will overnight choose to replace their systems with entirely new, experimental cutting edge technology that hasn't been proven and is still unfinished?
you keep parroting 2018 mantras while you're unable to support these premises in 2023 so you resort to muh appeal to authority and muh sandro salsano and muh municipal marmalade crumbs from 2017
pic and blog related, it's 2023 and I see no derivatives on the horizon
https://blog.chain.link/solving-deep-seated-trust-problems-in-derivatives-using-chainlink-enabled-smart-contracts/
>inb4 5 moar years you impatient fag

>> No.53703516

>>53703444
>As a fellow 17 holder, thinking about it, my knowledge and understanding of the world really has improved from link threads like these.

Definitely.

>>53703444
>It is actually possible that you were the one that recommend the power of now a few years back. And that book among many other things taken from threads has definitely improved my life.

I didn't recommend that book but I'm glad to hear you found self improvement from posts here.

As that pic said, INTJ decentralized Freemasonry without all the faggotry. We don't even try to bogart the truth, its just that normal people who don't frequently visit Mongolian yak herding and animal husbandry forums rarely believe us or can stand being here for 5 minutes in order to sift through the dirt and find a diamond in the rough.

>> No.53703539

>>53703513

If I were I'd probably sell your holdings. You don't seem that confident that the Chainlink team will manifest any results or success.

I highly doubt SWIFT is going to be using solely public blockchains. Probably some kind of hybrid between private and public mostly being private.

>> No.53703572

>>53703191
Where's the money salami
>>53700818
Do you still hate staking? Seems fairly obvious that nothing major is going to happen pricewise prior to unstaking being released

>> No.53703589

>>53703539
>you don't seem
wow anon, it's like you read me like an open book, astonishing work but you forgot to offer your own insights in this post with thinly veiled condescension
>some kind of hybrid between private and public mostly being private
oh so you highly doubt that SWIFT is aiming to utilize the blockchain technology like it was intended to, so EVERY fucking crumb regarding SWIFT goes out the fucking window cause who the fuck knows what kind of half measure will the end up using
so bullish

>> No.53703630

>>53703572

I remember when just posting his name would get a thread deleted and people banned. They seemed to have eased up on that since it was an obvious giveaway. They were trying too hard.

Yeah I'm still not a fan of staking right now. The current iteration didn't seem worth locking your assets for nearly a year. I suppose maybe 20%~ of your holdings would be fine. As far as speculating on price action within that time period its impossible to know but it also wouldn't surprise me if it pumped and then dumped right before the stakers were released from their obligations.

If you aren't schizomaxxing with extreme caution these days you're NGMI imo.

>> No.53703647

>>53703589
the mind of a top buying late nulinker lol

sell and move on with your life if you're that mindbroken

>> No.53703654

>>53703589

I mean you sound upset or angered. I wasn't being condescending. If you have holdings they might be better placed elsewhere. If holding LINK is causing you this much grief and doubt then I'd put my funds where I have more certainty.

Assuming they are using CCIP, then it doesn't really matter what blockchains they are using. LINK holders will benefit regardless.

>> No.53703668

>>53703647
>hahaha you're a late buyer lololol
I'm a 18fag, tourist
bet you weren't even around for the sigil threads
>>53703654
>appeal to emotion
don't use kike tactics here bro, not cool
>LINK holders will benefit regardless.
will LINK holders benefit in the same way the benefited from the entire DeFi sector adopting LINK as the standard? or will it benefit the holders in the same way staking has? I'm truly perplexed here, and it would be wise for you to stop the ad homs and start offering answers, or simply ignore my posts if you don't want to
calling me upset because I dare to challenge your thesis with arguments is a woman/childish tactic

>> No.53703690

>>53703668
sell

>> No.53703719

>>53703668

The problem is you really do sound upset. My suggestion was as honest. If you have serious doubts of how you invested that are altering your emotional state negatively than perhaps its time to reconsider.

I answered your question or at least thought I did. Its hard to know the exact impact from the potential of SWIFT using CCIP.

That being said SWIFT handles over 1 quadrillion dollars worth of value being messaged/sent every year. If LINK captured even just a small fraction of that it would be unreal.

>> No.53703753

>>53703420
>Wow we're super secret agents buying Chainmink and while we flood the board with fud threads we make sure to make a low-key support thread at night every once and a while to flip the script and pretend we're all getting ready for the big bullrun to $12 so keep buying guys!

>> No.53703754

>>53703630
Yeah I remember, hence all the funny name workarounds like salami. There were a bunch of research threads into him awhile back. I've got a solid% personally but I was mainly lured by the airdops (...are they ever coming?) Be nice if we get an ATOM situation with a bunch of valuable free drops

>> No.53703780

>>53703719
>If LINK manages to capture just a tiny percentage of the IoT market we stand to make a lot of money bros!!!
yes we've been talking about this for a long time now, the question is how
>Idk anon, but IF LINK pulls it off...(repeat the chorus 3 more times)
>(birdge) you seem very upset though, why don't you sell??
It's like I'm talking to a broken bot here

>> No.53703788

>>53703754
>but I was mainly lured by the airdops (...are they ever coming?)

The wording was too unclear for me. It wasn't guaranteed from how I understood it that the airdrops were a sure thing. That being said, I hope you get them.

>> No.53703821

>>53703780

Sell don't sell do whatever but holding onto anger or whatever is causing it is not ideal.

What do you mean how? You know how if you have in holding since 2018. They complete what is outlined in the white papers they have written. LINK is necessary collateral staked on nodes for the the facilitation of data and value being transferred using their decentralized oracle network.

>> No.53703967

>>53703821
replied like a true kike with tired clichés and empty buzzwords
>They complete what is outlined in the white papers they have written
the whitepapers do not present a working model regarding SWIFT, besides that, not a single feature outlined either in whitepaper v1 or v2 has been delivered, and that I might add is completely irrelevant regarding the inquiry of how and most importantly why would SWIFT adopting LINK at any capacity would greatly benefit the holders
for example price feeds, vrf, keepers all are well adopted but don't benefit the holders at all
link nodes don't validate arbitrum so no cash flow from there either
>just wait for staking v1
considering their track record, the lack of a roadmap, and the previous failed announcements there is genuinely little hope they will realistically manage to deliver even half of what they've promised in the next three years, remember we're still waiting for DECO, Mixicles, Super-linear staking and so on
this isn't 2018 anymore, all the good faith the holders had on the team has vanished and at some point you people will realize this
>inb4 but why so mad

>> No.53704108

>>53703967
So you have no hope whatsoever in anything good happening for LINK holders, so why don't you just sell then? Honest question, no meme.

Why aren't you trying to find something you think has potential in profit then and move to that? Why waste time writing countless LINK posts in LINK threads if you genuinely think you have nothing to benefit from that?

>> No.53704121

>>53704108
why don't you try offering an answer instead of always resorting to ad homs?
honest question, you literally seem incapable or processing any kind of criticism

>> No.53704175

>>53703428
btw you can't claim that accumulation is taking place without presenting any kind of volume data at different time frames, and then comparing that data to the broader market
using the exact same logic the entire alt market is on a huge accumulation pattern, which obviously can't be true
this retarded sentiment used to hold water during 2018-20 when actual accumulation took place and it was self evident by the constant LINK uptrend against the market, this is simply not the case anymore
that's why I keep repeating you people are stuck in the past

>> No.53704211

>>53703967
>replied like a true kike with tired clichés and empty buzzwords

What I replied is legitimately how the LINK token will capture value

>> No.53704237

>>53704121
I'm not OP, and obviously the vast majority of things discussed ITT is speculation, so no side can give a factual answer since the other side can just say you're merely speculating, so you just go in circles.

But it makes sense for someone who believes that he can profit from an investment to talk about said investment a lot, while you say that you have zero hope whatsoever that a LINK holder will profit from any of it, so why make 10 two thousand character posts about said investment you have zero hope for on a random Thursday? Help me understand

>> No.53704296

>>53704237
>shooting the messenger: the post
well, remember how people used to say that LINK had the best fundamentals in the space and the best value proposition on the market?
>no one can give you a factual answer to support this anymore anon
>we're literally all gambling here under the pretense of sound investing based on outdated breadcrumbs from 5-6 years ago
thanks for confirming that LINK is essentially a gigantic /biz/ larp
nevar forget BM=AS and SA=SA
oh wait scrap the blythe masters part, turned out to be a dud lmao

>> No.53704323

>>53704296
>well, remember how people used to say that LINK had the best fundamentals in the space and the best value proposition on the market?

It still has both imo. Either I'll be right and even wealthier than I already am or you will be and LINK will go to zero.

>> No.53704343

>>53704323
>no one can give you a factual answer, but you can take my word on LINK fundamentals
sure anon, keep making threads about the schizo numbers and the non existent accumulation that's happening for the last 3 years

>> No.53704358

>>53704296
I get it you have no hope for LINK and that there is no profit to be made from it, you're pretty clear on that.
But why still spend so much time talking about LINK in great detail then? You've already spent nearly 2 hours in this very thread, made more than 10 posts with every single one being 1-2K character post.

These two things don't add up, honestly and genuinely help me understand. If you genuinely have no hope, why not move on to something else? Why still spend so much of your time on it?

>> No.53704373

>>53704358
why continue engaging with my terribly long shitposts with desperate fallacies, completely unrelated to my arguments, when I've made it clear I'm only interested in actual discussion? just ignore my posts
ps 1-2k characters is barely a proper paragraph, and really isn't that long, try reading an actual book sometime

>> No.53704440

>>53704358

I noted this multiple times and was accused of using argumentative fallacies.

Idk either way SWIFT has openly said they are working with Chainlink directly.

SWIFT processes over 1 quadrillion dollars of value yearly as I said before.

Assuming we get staking V1.0 as outlined in the white papers then LINK will capture some of that value by being collateral for facilitating those transfers.

I'm speculating on all of this to come to fruition.

Its that simple.

What else is there to discuss? You keep asking but how do we know essentially. We don't, however I believe all of the above to true and they will succeed in the goals they outlined.

>> No.53704458

>>53704343
>sure anon, keep making threads about the schizo numbers and the non existent accumulation that's happening for the last 3 years

I will and re-accumulation has been more for around 6 months. Strong support in the $6-7 range

>> No.53704472

>>53704373
I continue to engage because I am invested in LINK, so I enter LINK threads of course. But if I had zero hope of profiting from LINK it would be absolutely ridiculous for me to spend a single second opening a LINK thread at all, let alone to waste 2 hours on it making endless posts about it. Like entering an XRP thread and then making countless 2 thousand character posts about it for hours even though I think I can't profit one bit from it.
>ps 1-2k characters is barely a proper paragraph, and really isn't that long
The point is that you're wasting time and effort for something you apparently don't believe in. I can't imagine you also making dozens of 1-2k character posts for other shitcoins you don't believe in, or?

I am genuinely baffled and would like to know your view of why you do it, if you don't have any hope in profiting from LINK.

>> No.53704488

>>53704440
There is nothing else to discuss but schizo numbers. Which have already been discussed endlessly. It’s all conjecture anyway, not like any of us know what is truly going on behind the scenes.

>> No.53704513

Can anyone share what caused the pump last week and why was it more devastating dump when BTC dumped only a hair. I'm starting to believe the schizo's. It's way to coincidental. If BTC dumped during the CPI release, then it would have been more believable. But BTC dumps coincidental when LINK breaks trend.

>> No.53704566

>>53704513
>>53704513

Someone said SWIFT tweeted this link

>>53700925
>https://www.swift.com/iso20022readiness

which was the likely cause of the LINK pump. SWIFT then deleted the tweet and then BTC dumped shortly after.

Its quite a "coincidence"

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>>53704440
>Oracle has openly said they are working with Chainlink directly, even Ian Keane confirmed it on twitter bros, he also appeared on SmartCon 0
like I said, this will end up exactly like every Chainlink crumb ends up, a total flop and radio silence afterwards
>We don't know but we hope
if you can't even conceive a viable path of adoption and you resort to blind hope and appeal to authority then you shouldn't be in a position to advise others, period
the old chainlink convos consisted of extensive discussions analyzing every minor detail, they weren't full of hopeless midwits shouting
>SIBOS 2017 GUISE WAGMI
there was actual technical discussion going on, you nufag pretenders don't even engage in discussions anymore, and that is all I'm asking for here
you claim accumulation is taking place? support it with evidence, a rangebound price action doesn't mean shit, especially when the entire alt market is trading at a similar range bound level
you claim SWIFT will somehow lead to the LINK token capturing value? then support your thesis with something other than pure conjecture
>>53704472
I salute you anon, you have mastered the art of spouting entire 1k character paragraphs without offering an ounce of substance, truly taken out of the kike pilpul playbook
to answer your irrelevant question, I want genuine discussion because I believe LINK has been placed on a huge pedestal on this board, and it doesn't deserve it
>but I wouldn't do that bro wtf!!
well, no two people are alike anon, welcome to the real world

>> No.53704665

>>53704566
>Someone said SWIFT tweeted this link
>>https://www.swift.com/iso20022readiness
>which was the likely cause of the LINK pump. SWIFT then deleted the tweet and then BTC dumped shortly after.
>Its quite a "coincidence"
That doesn't make sense, ISO20022 IS happening in March, with a certainty. Why would SWIFT tweet a link to a their own webpage, and why would that cause a pump.

I also don't get why LINK can't recover to the pump from last week or at least sit within range. It is shown that people are buying without influence from BTC. Granted whales were a big help with that pump, then why aren't whales gobbling it up right now if March is a certainty.

>> No.53704795

>>53704574
>I want genuine discussion because I believe LINK has been placed on a huge pedestal on this board, and it doesn't deserve it
There are endless XRP threads as well, but I doubt you're posting in those threads like this as well.

It makes zero sense. You think LINK has been place on a huge pedestal which it doesn't deserve, yet you continue talking about it endlessly in great detail? What do you gain from that?

>> No.53704814

>>53704665
>Why would SWIFT tweet a link to a their own webpage,

To share the info I suppose? Why wouldn't they do that or why do you find that strange?

>>53704665
>and why would that cause a pump.

SWIFT has outright said they are working with Chainlink, which is ISO-20022 compatible. I imagine since people believe its all connected then since they gave a definitive date it was time to buy or go long.

>> No.53704832

>>53704795
>please focus on some other shitcoin
XRP at least has a containment general
>I don't understand why you want to discuss it if you don't like it
good, I suggest you ignore me then, you're not exactly my target group here
if you're not willing to participate in actual discussion I won't respond to your posts anymore
>>53704814
>repeats the same thing like a broken clock
this is my last response to you as well

>> No.53704841

Anti-linkers think chainlink is just another token, and chainlink labs makes nothing but vaporware (CCIP, DECO, etc).
Chainlink bulls think defi will lead crypto's growth in the coming years, and chainlink will be one of the foundations of the development of defi (CCIP, DECO, etc.).

For anti-linkers the fact that link is an erc20 token is a factor that adds to their impression that it's a shitcoin.
For chainlink bulls, the fact that the token happens to adhere to the erc20 standard isn't relevant.

For anti-linkers, the cult-like, shitcoin-tier volume (and content) of chainlink posts on biz is consistent with that of a shitcoin - therefore it's a shitcoin.
For chainlink bulls, the cult-like, shitcoin-tier volume (and content) of link posts on biz is mostly background noise.

Anti-linkers look at chainlink's run from $0.3 to $50 to $7 and they see a pump and dump that will end at $0, just like any other shitcoin.
Chainlink bulls look at chainlink's run from $0.3 to $50 to $7 and they see one bullish cycle, that will lead to another one past the previous ATH, just like any other cornerstone crypto project.

Anti-linkers are sure chainlink will never pump again. That's what shitcoins do.
Chainlink bulls are sure it'll pump again past the previous ATH. That's what AAA projects in crypto do.

>> No.53704902

>>53704574

I have told you nearly 6 times now. All the information is known.

SWIFT would be using CCIP to facilitate 1 quadrillion in value. Everyone knows that LINK will secure the nodes as collateral in V1.0 staking.

In order to be sufficient collateral for that much value the LINK token will need to be higher in price. To what degree is unknown.

You are just repeating the same questions forcing me to repeat the same answers.

>> No.53704919

>>53704902
>SWIFT would be using CCIP to facilitate 1 quadrillion in value
how? by doing what exactly? cross-border payments? securities? derivatives? be specific instead of spouting meaningless techno jargon with 0 context

>> No.53705058

>>53704919

It would appear to be cross border payments and reporting.

They also had DTCC at the last Smart Conference which would be insane if they were involved as well. I'm not sure if there is any evidence for them besides appearing at the conference though

>> No.53705117

>>53704919
Do you ever get tired of getting called a faggot? I have a feeling you attain sexual gratification from it. Have fun spamming link threads with demands for predicting our future with absolute certainty, while we comfortably hold Link - many of us sitting with a comfortable 20x return even after a 90% draw down.

>> No.53705328

>>53705058
I've been debating whether I should respond to that awful low effort reply, but I will attempt one last time in good faith
immutable smart contracts supposedly was the biggest thing born out of DLT, that's the entire point of oracles in the first place and I'm very disappointed to see that by your own admission, SWIFT doesn't seem to be interested on them.
So what exactly are the problems SWIFT is currently facing regarding cross-border payments and what does CCIP do to alleviate them? how exactly is CCIP going to facilitate efficient scaling in order to accommodate for the large volume of capital SWIFT is handling? L2s still do not scale sufficiently enough, zk roll-ups are years away etc
what happened to the smart securities proposition from 2021?
assuming you're able to provide decent response to everything mentioned above, what do you think of the very recent announcement of Maersk abandoning its shipping logistics pilot after 4 years of testing, deeming it a "commercial failure" and why do you think LINK won't face the same fate with SWIFT as well

>> No.53705413

>>53701430
>>53701512
wat
big if true

>> No.53705421

GET IT? Because DEVIL NUMBER Its all connected...!!!!

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>>53705413
I guess that explains why every technical discussion has ceased, not a single oldfag remains on this board, only newfags, jeets and midwit tourists larping as OGs

>> No.53705509

>>53704841
I just looked at a price chart for your shitcoin after seeing this post and instead of thinking it was funny I just feel bad for you and everyone else clinging to this wreckage

>> No.53705522

>>53705328
SWIFT will use their own private DLT in the background (11k banks), DLTs need oracle services

>> No.53705530

>>53705328
>immutable smart contracts supposedly was the biggest thing born out of DLT, that's the entire point of oracles in the first place and I'm very disappointed to see that by your own admission, SWIFT doesn't seem to be interested on them.

This part was implied. If SWIFT is using a private blockchain then smart contracts are being used.

Decentralized public chains have scaling issues. Private ones don't have that problem but the trade off for increased scalability is more centralization.

Shipping logistics isn't cross border payments and reporting so we can't compare the difficulties that arise in using DLT, smart contracts, and oracle networks for their respective industries.

We don't know if it will fail or succeed. Its all about risk/reward and LINK has one of the best ratios in crypto imo. SWIFT has been confirmed now we just have to wait and see what happens.

>> No.53705562

>>53705509
>I just looked at a price chart for your shitcoin after seeing this post and instead of thinking it was funny I just feel bad for you and everyone else clinging to this wreckage

Not much different than cycles ETH or BTC have been through. Massive parabolic expansions followed by extreme contractions.

>> No.53705605

>>53705562
they're almost exactly the same. not that I have any money in those either. I'm stable and have higher faster returns through merchanting. I just look in on this board every once in a while and walk away feeling pity and sadness due to all of the desperation and forlorn hope.

>> No.53705618

>>53705522
>>53705530
none of these posts are well-thought technical answers, this is basically what you're all hoping for
>We don't know if it will fail or succeed
oh
anyway I'll stick around in case someone bothers to respond properly

>> No.53705666

>>53705618

The last time I used even remotely technical terminology you accused me of using meaningless buzzwords when describing LINK's value capture mechanism.

>>53703967
>replied like a true kike with tired clichés and empty buzzwords

You are obviously not discussing in good faith and nearly everyone who came to the thread can see it.

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>>53700925
So basically you're saying that SWIFT will start its testing phase feat Chainlink's CCIP despite the fact that CCIP on its own still didn't have a real world public testing?
>inb4 muh POC testings
those mean jackshit against an exploit in the wild. Either they're really that dumb or you're completely wrong, pick one.

>> No.53705679

>>53705666

Oh shit Satan trips

>> No.53705700

>>53705669
>So basically you're saying that SWIFT will start its testing phase feat Chainlink's CCIP despite the fact that CCIP on its own still didn't have a real world public testing?

Yes

>> No.53705717

>>53705666
checked
if this is what you mean by "remotely technical terminology"
>They complete what is outlined in the white papers they have written. LINK is necessary collateral staked on nodes for the the facilitation of data and value being transferred using their decentralized oracle network.
then I stand by my statement, this literally means nothing
if anyone is arguing in bad faith that's you, constantly attempting to discredit me by appealing to emotion without offering a single proper response
>y so mad broo

>> No.53705811

>>53705717

That is literally how the token captures value. I honestly don't know what else you want from me.

Nodes perform jobs

Jobs from SWIFT as an example deal with high value data worth millions, billions, and even trillions

Value needs to be insured through collateral to ensure data is correct.

LINK is collateral on nodes for jobs worth upwards of trillions

LINK increases in value as more high value jobs continue to go through the network in order to be sufficient insurance.

LINK is staked also reducing supply as a result increasing scarcity

This is the most basic gist that anyone can understand.

All of you responses are just "No U"

>> No.53705897

>>53705811
>Jobs from SWIFT as an example
offer me an example of a SWIFT job for the nodes
offer me a specific example of SWIFT utilizing CCIP services in a way that causes the token to capture value without resorting to equivocating and vague replies, cause it seems that your entire thesis is built on a whole lot of assumptions and nothing else

>> No.53705981

>>53705897
Stfu fag

>> No.53705995

>>53705897

>But why male models

I just told you multiple times. Its like you are Zoolandering me after I just explained directly.

--SWIFT consortium uses one or multiple private DLT/blockchains with CCIP as their cross border and reporting system.

--Chainlink nodes perform those payment and reporting jobs

--continue after where it says nodes perform those jobs on this reply

>>53705811

>> No.53706007

>>53705995
>offer me an example of these jobs
>???
ok done wasting time with you, still sticking around for someone who's willing to discuss this project instead

>> No.53706028

>>53706007

An messaging job where payment and reporting data, which is highly valuable, is sent from one of the 11,000 banks in the SWIFT consortium to another bank using CCIP

I don't think I can be anymore clear

>> No.53706086

>>53706028
https://docs.chain.link/chainlink-nodes/oracle-jobs/jobs/
let me help you a bit
under which category does this vague "messaging job" falls?

>> No.53706181

>>53705700
Care to elaborate further since you're at it with that insufferable faggot? I asked a specific question and I hope you've more to add other that an old meme "yes"

>> No.53706209

>>53706086

Obviously you know CCIP isn't live yet. This is something you have stated yourself so why would it be a current job I'm describing its known functions and applying it to potential future application in regards to how SWIFT would utilize it.

I imagine it would function like a bridge.
https://chain.link/cross-chain#cross-chain-interoperability-protocol

Everything is listed here. I'm led to believe its OCR but I'm not sure

>> No.53706233

>>53706181

I have nothing else to add.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DgnHKTI-EU

>> No.53706282

>>53706209
>I have absolutely no clue about what I'm talking about here
I know and it shows, so my advice for you would be to stick to schizo numbers and don't even attempt to start conversations about things you don't even comprehend
>I'm led to believe its OCR
because you're unironically a midwit faggot, you're "led to believe that" because it's in the first bullet point of that marketing slide you posted
>>53706233
checked
I'll also leave this here with nothing else to add
https://twitter.com/chainlink/status/1143649137956663298

>> No.53706371

>>53706282

To be fair, I don't have to know 100% of the technicals to a tee to more or less understand enough of how it operates. Blockchain technology isn't my area of expertise nor did I ever claim it was. I bought years ago because I was able to see the implications of smart contracts and the value of bringing off chain data on chain.

That being said, if you know the exact answer you should share then and explain in depth.

Also you think you are clever because you are the one desperately trying to draw information out of me in order to dismiss it as incorrect so you can then try and diminish everything I've said.

I wasn't mentioning anything technical until you absolutely demanded it.

I just mentioned that SWIFT is using Chainlink and everything I mentioned here >>53705995
>>53705811 is accurate.

>> No.53706474

>>53706371
the exact answer is that as it stands, this technology is unable to "replace" the existing financial systems due to multiple technical limitations in the architectural level, which explains why the DLT technology has experienced extreme stagnation since the conception of smart contracts
flooding the market with centralized side chains in order to circumvent the inherent DLT limitations (which is the entire premise of cross-chain bridges such as CCIP) is simply inefficient and as you've stated already on this thread, defeats the entire purpose of blockchain technology, which is based on decentralization, scalability and security
the entire concept of decentralized oracles for highly secure input of data into the self enclosed, unscalable blockchain ecosystem seems also pointless when you realize that data sourcing of institutions realistically will never be decentralized
>but why is SWIFT on it then
for the same reason all of the aforementioned entities were in it in the past, to experiment and find ways for potential profit
my overarching point is that nearly all of them have not materialized into actual adoption so at this stage, it is beyond naive to assume that SWIFT will turn out differently, for the reasons I've outlined above
I could go on but I feel it is entirely pointless

>> No.53706659

>>53706474
>flooding the market with centralized side chains in order to circumvent the inherent DLT limitations (which is the entire premise of cross-chain bridges such as CCIP) is simply inefficient and as you've stated already on this thread, defeats the entire purpose of blockchain technology, which is based on decentralization, scalability and security

Institutions largely don't want decentralized blockchains for all their functions. Its apparent the future will be some kind of private/public hybrid.

There is no limitation at that point if they aren't seeking pure decentralization. Private banks within the SWIFT consortium will be able to use their own centralized DLTs for scalability and Chainlink nodes for decentralized data inputs.

Its not even inefficient for banks to have their own DLT.

>> No.53706692

>>53700818
Why would Jeets here always want Biz discussion to hover around LINK.. haven't had anything good with LINK except the fact that I discovered ALBT after their partnership with the DeFi gateway project.

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We are still at $6.66 too kekek

>> No.53706736

>>53706698
your shitcoin is going to $1 and you will panic sell there which will come as a surprise to you after all the shilling you've done, kys stinky

>> No.53706757

>>53706659
so if we accept that true decentralization is not feasible or even desired from institutions, why would they instead need decentralized data aggregators when the primary recipient of data exchange will be centralized, self enclosed, private DLTs belonging to centralized entities
better yet, why would this system require "immutable" smart contracts and automation in the first place when the data sources remain completely susceptible to fraud and forgery? by introducing immutable automated contracts to the mix you literally amplify the potential damage
by removing the only salvageable aspect of blockchains (decentralization) the incentives of using this technology quickly dwindle down to almost nothing apart from extremely niche usecases such as DEXes, aka nothing to do with legacy finance at all

>> No.53706794

>>53706757
and just to clarify, if that's the true usecase of LINK and not muh quadrillions of derivatives then the actual value the token will capture is NOT in the billions or the trillions, all of the ridiculous 3 digit valuations go out the window as well

>> No.53706883

>>53706757

Centralized DLTs can still report to each other and use decentralized inputs from Chainlink in order to ensure one entity isn't committing fraud or bribing data providers

>> No.53706916

>>53706883
>ensure one entity isn't committing fraud or bribing data providers
you're not reading my posts anon
data providers in your scenario are centralized entities, they don't have to bribe anybody and they don't even have to own the oracle, whatever they report will be "true data", no penalties or slashing from chainlink to nodes required, system works as intended, fraud still is being committed

>> No.53706929

>>53706916
this is exactly how derivatives fraud occurs and the implementation of chainlink would literally do nothing to stop it
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/libor-scandal.asp

>> No.53707008

>>53706929
>>53706929

Your own post says LIBOR is being phased out June of this year.

Sure if every single data provider colludes to screw the public its harder to stop but that is how things already work now.

My point is that they can't cheat each other which is what the institutions actually care about. Again I said there will likely be some kind of public/private hybrid where most processing will be done privately for scalability and then probably some kind of less frequent public reporting.

>> No.53707067

>>53707008
>My point is that they can't cheat each other
your point is moot since I've demonstrated that they can and they probably will
>some kind of
>again, I said some vague things and threw some word salads such as "public/private hybrid (whatever the fuck that means) and "public reporting" and I called it a day
ok you managed to tire me out, congrats
you're either an actual paid shill or very dense, I can't tell

>> No.53707080

>>53707067
>actual paid shill

Ironic

>> No.53707102

>>53707067
>ok you managed to tire me out

This the 3rd time you've said this the first time being nearly 2 hours ago yet you won't leave which is fine but weird

Public/private hybrid as in they will use both public chains and private chains in tandem for each for different purposes

>> No.53707108

>>53707080
>>53707102
so it took you forever to brainstorm these non-responses to the issues I've raised but you reply immediately for a witty one-liner
yup, it's a brainlet
enjoy your schizo thread and this time I mean it <3

>> No.53707131

>>53707108

I've been replying at the same speed you are. Every 3-10 minute intervals

>> No.53707137

>>53700818
>You have once chance to make it.
Do NOT miss your chance to blow. Always keep kneepads in your manpurse.

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SN=SN?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Ex4lsYZDUxA/

>> No.53707282

>>53704513
hello? exit pump?

>> No.53707315

>>53707108
>please deboonk my 2017 fud which literally hasn’t changed since 2017
>if you can’t do it I win

>> No.53707381

>>53707315
you really can't, cause contrary to popular belief here, /biz/ did not unanimously decide that these issues aren't real, they simply decided to give the team some time to see where it's going
I dare you to find me any post in the archives which effectively dispels le "fud"
you literally can't
sorry to burst your bubble

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>>53707195
What WEF site is this?

>> No.53707451

>>53707381
it's a two man team!

>> No.53707514

>>53707451
you weren't even here, why are you trying so hard? I also find it funny how you fucked off the entire thread and you came back thinking you got an epic gotcha moment about muh ironic 2017 funny fud

>> No.53707517

>>53707108
looks like you enjoyed it more than anyone else, on account of us having to suffer your existence

>> No.53707516

>>53707381
>sorry to burst your bubble.
That's the only reason you're ITT.

>> No.53707523

>>53707381
>if you can’t deboonk me your speculative investment is worthless
>I only buy technology after widespread adoption confirms its value

>> No.53707558

>>53707516
indeed
>>53707517
indeed
>>53707523
yes
no, it's been 7 years, how many more do you need for your widespread adoption to commence?
IE dominated the market by year 3 btw

>> No.53707603

>>53707514
Sorry that I don't have 5 hours straight to spend on 4channel.org to endlessly talk about an investment I have zero hope to profit from.

I'm here now though so enjoy

>> No.53707622

>>53707603
enjoy reading the posts you've missed, don't worry I'm not expecting any arguments, you've already played the "ancient fud, pls ignore" card here

>> No.53707623

>>53707558
>its 1996, the internet has been around for decades, how many years do you need?
>its 2003, amazon has been around for a decade, how many years do you need?

>> No.53707631

>>53707623
>1996 the internet has been around for decadeS
>2003 the internet has been around for A decade
at least you've tried

>> No.53707734

>>53707622
Eh it's not that entertaining, boring really.

>> No.53707789

>>53707424
>What WEF site is this?

The image was compilation of sources that people on 4Chan composed about evidence of Sergey being Satoshi or in close proximity to him.

>> No.53707962

>>53700818
>oh its another schizo breadcrumb thread
Just two more weeks and you guys will be rich. I wonder what the excuse will be this time

>> No.53708022

>>53707962
>Just two more weeks and you guys will be rich. I wonder what the excuse will be this time

Don't you feel bad about just lying and making things up. No one in the entire thread mentioned any dates or timelines about pricing. Only that SWIFT is finally launching their ISO-20022 CBPR testing on March 20th

>> No.53708255

>>53708022
Hello CLL intern! Welcome to 4chan.
You might not be aware but "two more weeks" is sort of a joke around here(just like chainlink). I am aware you are not supposed to discuss token price so sorry about the you guys will be rich comment another joke im afraid, everyone knows holding or staking chainlink tokens or using the chainlink network will not make you wealthy.

>> No.53708267

>>53706736
If I panic sell ETH, then I'd buy another alt as SOM, DOT or ALBT. These ones will keep me abreast the market. Although roasties don't know what gems are all about.

>> No.53708280

>>53708255

Yes I'm aware of the "2 more weeks" although it originated on /pol not in regards to Chainlink

It already made me wealthy. Imagine thinking a member of CLL would spam 666 posts on a Mongolian yak herding and animal husbandry forum.

Are you retarded?

>> No.53708351

>>53708267
>If I panic sell ETH, then I'd buy another alt as SOM, DOT or ALBT. These ones will keep me abreast the market. Although roasties don't know what gems are all about.

This might be the worst and most obvious shilling I've ever seen

>> No.53708815

>>53701512
It's strange: the elites could have kept absolutely everyone in the dark but themselves yet they choose to create breadcrumbs like the Schwab books so as to give high IQ INTPs a chance. I think they don't mind if others get a slice of the pie so long as it's individuals that are worthy in their eyes. It would mean the elites are eugenicists in a sense

>> No.53709519

>>53708280
I have already imagined it and its true 60+ post maker, also don't waste time name-calling, this is not reddit, words do not hurt people here.

>> No.53709522

>>53708280
2 more weeks originated on /x not wherever else newfag. It was used in the 2000's while we waited for the government to disclose info on the UFO cover up. Don't post here if you can't triforce. And also, the game.

>> No.53709660

what is this new bs of posting boards like this /x
it's /x/, /pol/ and /biz/ you retard newfags
>>>/out/

>> No.53709668

>>53708815
>It would mean the elites are eugenicists in a sense

Yeah I'd say they are generally pretty open about that one

>>53708815
>breadcrumbs like the Schwab books so as to give high IQ INTPs a chance. I think they don't mind if others get a slice of the pie so long as it's individuals that are worthy in their eyes.

4Chan is heavily overrepresented in INTJ/INTP and "Analyst" personality types.

>> No.53709686

>>53709519
fag kek Yes the Chainlink team told me to come here and correlate with what normal people would think is some kind of Satan worship(that isn't what I'm doing btw)

Obviously only retards would imagine that conclusion

>> No.53709739

>fag kek Yes
I salute your fortitude OP, I can't even begin to imagine typing out 63 posts for 15 hours on a fucking phone, it's even more impressive if you actually do it for free
wow, not even memeing rn, that's a dedicated autist right there
but fuck you for being an obvious newfag as well
>/pol

>> No.53709904

>>53709739

Free and I'm on a PC. It is /pol

Does it look like each section at the bottom of the page is listed as /pol/ or /pol? There is only one / per section

>> No.53710041 [DELETED] 

>>53701261

I know the guy who wrote that famous Ben Drowned creepypasta and he unironically told me that 4chan made him famous and then made him rich (because he got into crypto from 4chan).

Its an interesting thought experience to think that we're a decentralized massive secret society.

>> No.53710592

>>53709904
Faggot

>> No.53710708

Aiii yo
my finga on da trigga like a nigga finna
SELL SELL SELL
sell my muthafucking LINK aii OoooOoo

>> No.53710710

>>53701512
>>53708815
It's called Revelation of the Method. It means they tell us
>every
>single
>time

>> No.53712327

>>53700818
>64 posts by this user
wow a lot of convincing going on huh?

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>>53709904
you are unbelievably retarded and new

>> No.53712920

>>53712327
>>53712327

I'm OP I responded to posts as I got (yous)

>>53712676

Mods are homosexuals. So is Moot. As I said it says /biz at the bottom.

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>>53710710

Yes that is correct.

>> No.53712934

>>53712920
so I'm guessing you're referring to /a/ as a/ instead of /a
shut up and take the L, have some fucking dignity

>> No.53712944

>>53710041
>Its an interesting thought experience to think that we're a decentralized massive secret society.

Hiding in plain sight just like the others ironically

>> No.53712968

>>53703372
Hey i recognize you. Why do you spend so much time doing this?

>> No.53712986

>>53712934

There isn't enough /'s for /a/

Obviously the ( is just a / but for separate sections

>> No.53713017

>>53712968

Mental illness or income its hard to say any more. I made this thread at like 10 hours ago. I'm invested in LINK. I have a stake in spreading knowledge, discussion, and just having fun with the topic.

Who knows why trannies do what they do

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>>53712986
>>>/out/
>>>/out
which one works, faggot?
>>53713017
you should thank the autists who spent countless hours combing through breadcrumbs years ago

>> No.53713070

>>53713059

The boards denoted with one / at the bottom of the page work just fine

>> No.53713102

>>53713059
ISO 20022 in bytes for payments: The final countdown to CBPR+ go-live has started. There are less than two months to go to the start of the coexistence period in March 2023 & we hope you’re making good use of this extra time. Are your chihuahuas in a row?

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>>53700918
Bruv, I don't give a damn how it wants to be - I just cleared my head and hopped back on the Uber grind, things are looking better since I installed the holoride retrofit plugin to keep my passengers entertained on those long hauls with more 5star rating. But even with all that, those who aren't buying in all these volatility get ready to gouge their eyes out when the next bull run hits.

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>>53713070
what in the flying fuck are you talking about, nigger, you can't crosspost to another board without two slashes
>>>/fit/
>>>/fit
nobody called any board like this /faggot, it was always /faggot/ double slashes
>/b/tards
>/b/ros
>/v/irgins
>/biz/raelis
pic fucking related, look at the top of every board and tell me what you see and yes I'm seething rn

>> No.53713234

>>53713141

Based Uber Accoomulatorrr

>> No.53713353

>>53713017
I’ve seen this poster do it a few times recently. He’ll monopolize a few threads simultaneously. I can’t say what gives him away. It’s bizarre and i’d love to know the true motive behind it

>> No.53713537

>>53703372
Bought at $35, huh?

>> No.53713576

>>53705328
>Each country makes their own centralized blockchain for their digital currency
>Money that transfers across a border will also cross from one chain to another
>An interoperability protocol will be necessary to make that communication happen

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>>53700918
I can see the space for it but I can't see it happening, these trend lines were drawn two years ago and are well tested.

The market has spoken broadly and the new bottom is in, there are only three types of people who are a part of this game, those who have sold, those who will never sell, and those who know that whole countries are planning on joining in and pouring their entire GDP into some kind of crypto.

In November I called that the next rally was about to begin, up in Jan, down a bit in Feb, parabolic in March, all we are seeing is an initial selloff before the major rally that begins in March.

>> No.53713609

I wrote the best rap song about selling LINK I have ever written but you wannabee schizos had best kick it up another notch like me in that other bready if you want to be taken seriously
>>53711574
>>53711584

>> No.53714321

>>53707108
>41pbtid
we know you secretly hold chainlink. But why do you waste your time fudding your own investment? You think that you're keeping out newfags? Keeping out those who aren't worthy? Reddit doesn't use 4chan. Don't you have anything better to do?

>> No.53714454

>>53707108
Oh and also, your pilpul is really great, your rabbi must have been a great teacher. Let me know his email address.

>> No.53714490

>>53701261
You can forget about any form of debt after 5 years of psychological warfare and betrayal.
At this point I would have done better buying only Bitcoin and suffered a lot less.