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[Anonymous No.53436232]

> be me
> 35 y/o introvert
> started to stutter 1-2 years ago
> job and people at work totally drain my energy
> on bad days i'm struggling not to cry at work
> feel the need to reload my battery in the evening ... ALONE
yea, it's basically over for me isn't it. How do others deal with those problems?

[Anonymous No.53436266]

>>53436232
Go to heckin therapy dude and stay off this site

[Anonymous No.53436289]

>>53436232
Buy an AR

[Anonymous No.53436298]

deal with what?
>stuttering
go to a linguist I guess
>job drains you
try to find a chill job
>not cry at work
try to find a chill job
>feel the need to reload my battery
meditate go into nature eat healthy get good sleep all the usual
>alone
get a dog or something

cant see a problem that you couldnt handle here

[Anonymous No.53436413]

Cerebrolysin

[Anonymous No.53436547]

>>53436232
meditate and everyday focus on something that improves yourself overall. Whether its learning a skill, improving your physique or mentally expanding yourself. Reality is challenging you so rise up and become someone thats above the rest. Once you reach that level it no longer matters what the rest of these plebs say to you, you will be a phenomenal pillar that cannot be taken down
>t. a nobody

[Anonymous No.53436563]

>>53436232
get some vitamin d supplements and ween off caffeine for a couple days. Tell work you got covid and need a week off

[Anonymous No.53436629]

>>53436232
Damn dude, I developed a a little stutter too a few years ago in my early 20s, from depression and social anxiety and social withdrawal. Shit sucks. I try to speak slower , harder to stutter if you talk slow

[Anonymous No.53436709]

Look up Adam lane smith fix your attachment issues so you can integrate healthily.

[Anonymous No.53436746]

>>53436232
I'm 26 years old and when I go into the office the one required day a week, I sometimes can feel myself blushing when just talking to my boss. He's a guy, I just get nervous talking to people face to face sometimes for no reason.

You'll probably assume I'm a shut in or something but I have done so much normie shit and even stayed the night at a friend's new years party this year where at midnight there were like 30 people crammed into a small apartment.

After 26 years alive, always attending school in person, being employed since leaving school, I still am just uncomfortable around other people, I can get nervous talking to a friend I've known for two decades sometimes. I stumble over my words and tend to mumble and talk fast. If I say something in a group and 5+ people turn to look at and listen to me, my face will go red just because too many eyes are on me.

I sometimes experienced really rapid heart rate just going into a grocery store and I've avoided making phone calls when I could for most of my life but I'm a lot better at it now.

I really feel like a scared shy small child that never grew up in that regard. I know there's nothing to fear but something deeper within me makes me anxious. The only explanation I can think of is autism but I've never been diagnosed. I want off this hell ride

[Anonymous No.53436774]

>>53436232
i was kind of in a similar situation but worst. Almost ended up dying. Rested for 2 years basically now i'm better and i'm living my way not the way society wants me to. I Do what i want and don't overwork

[Anonymous No.53436826]

>>53436746
what makes you think "leaving" a normie life will actually fix your issues lmao?
You're a bit like me, you need to do introspective work and heal yourself long term. Anxiety, etc... learn to know yourself, your mind, rest enough, watch how shit you do impacts you... otherwise it will never go away.
It's a long road but i suggest getting interested into alternative medicines, yoga, this kind of things

[Anonymous No.53436842]

>>53436232
get some anxiety meds my man. i'm 37 and started buspirone last month and it's helped a lot. I'm not as bad as you it seems, but i would wake up every morning with a knot on my stomach before work. every day felt like a battle. since i started my meds my anxiety is way more manageable. not gone entirely, but my mind is much quieter and i have fewer intrusive thoughts

use forhims. i didn't even have to speak to a doctor to get a prescription. i filled out some online forms and had a quick back and forth text chat with a doctor and a week later the drugs were at my door. one of the best decisions of my life.

[Anonymous No.53436865]

>>53436232
Start doing a martial art.
Force yourself to go atleast 3 times a week. Do a lot of sparring even if it's scary.
It will solve all your problems. I promise.
Just generally do more crazy scary things.

[Anonymous No.53436888]

get a gf
share ur life with her
have a lots of sex
lift

those will improve ur life a lot

[Anonymous No.53436892]

>>53436842
>he hates his job and is getting sick of it
>just take meds to numb the messages your body/mind is giving you
do you see a problem here anon?

[Anonymous No.53436898]

>>53436888
Martial art is superior to lifting.

[Anonymous No.53436901]

>>53436888
such a normie retarded reply lmao
Those kind of issues don't go away like that

[Anonymous No.53436935]

>>53436232
I actually got rid of my stuttering, though, because it's just the "output" of unobserved neurological processes, I can't tell you how to "switch it off". Nonetheless, it's something in your mind having gone haywire, and it can be reversed, in principle.

[Anonymous No.53436936]

>>53436232
WFH and a hard focus on relaxing as comfy as possible at night/weekends.

[Anonymous No.53436939]

>>53436888
living thru women is a huge mistake, it's like living thru your boss
women are sex capitalists and men are money capitalists, never trust those 2

[Anonymous No.53436960]

>>53436892
No, anon. It's like that "check engine" light in the car: just put a sticker over it, that shit is annoying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.53436980]

>>53436901
lonely skinny virgin detected

[Anonymous No.53436999]

>>53436939
im sorry for ur ex

[Anonymous No.53437027]

>>53436232
Holy fuck you are 35 god dam years old and you still haven’t come to peace with your autism and loneliness yet. I get being like this during your prime teen years and early 20s but you should have snapped out of it by now.

My advice is to come to terms with your position in life, understand that normies are subhumans and who gives a fuck about their validation and get a comfy solitary job like a night time security guard.

[Anonymous No.53437062]

>>53436232
Get your testosterone levels checked. Anything below 400ng/dl is low for your age

[Anonymous No.53437106]

>>53436232
adult onset autism. many such cases!

[Anonymous No.53437119]

>>53436892
when did op say he hates his job?

buspirone specifically is worth a shot IMO. SSRIs have their issues and should be taken with caution, but buspirone is quite safe

[Anonymous No.53437136]

my greentext
>be me
>late 20's buisness owner
>make great money
>hate my life
>want to kms
>fuckwhatdoidonow.jpg
>coof hits
>company goes bankrupt
>ohshit.webm
>go to the hardware store to buy rope
>on the way I think to myself "fuck it why do I even care"
>go bankrupt
>no money
>no house
>no wife
>no stress
>sunrise.jpg
>fuck why did I even bother to keep up with the jonses
>get a nice little apartment here in vienna
>dead broke
>dont care anymore
>get a job I actually enjoy (working with kids with the tisms)
>mediate every day
>go for long walks
>exercise alot
>go into nature alot
>eat healty
>sleep well
>life has never been better
>find qt girl again
>work 20hrs a week

tl;dr I will rather die piss poor and not have anything to my name than work one more day in a job I hate. Life is to short frens and you dont need a lot of money to live a content life.

[Anonymous No.53437173]

>>53437119
well a job that drains all your energy that on bad days you struggle not to cry at and gives you the stutters doesn't sound all to healthy to me but maybe he loves it idk

[Anonymous No.53437236]

>>53437173
speaking from experience, I thought I hated my job because I had done it too long and was being bored. I'm a senior engineer. But then I treated my anxiety and I came to realize my job is pretty based. I was just not handling the stress of the job appropriately. the meds made an immediate difference for me. life is just way easier now because my baseline of anxiety is manageable.

[Anonymous No.53437269]

>>53436232
Fix your diet, start exercising in any way that you like best
That's the fix for almost any man's problems especially mentally
>t. I got fat for a couple years but I'm gaining momentum on getting my life back from the goyslop jew

[Anonymous No.53437277]

>>53437236
if you feel the need to do a job that your body/mind is clearly not made for and you need to take medication to "perform" I would not recommend that to anybody but I am not in the position to tell you what to do fren you do you hope it works out for you

[Anonymous No.53437319]

>>53436232
Kek. Your post reminds me of an argument I had with a chick about introverts. She insisted that an introvert could still be a social butterfly who loved conversation and hanging out, but sometimes would just want to "recharge their battery, alone". I can only think of the sharp, stark difference in your experience, coupled with that last line "recharge alone". Kek. I hate women yes I am Kazakh.

[Anonymous No.53437370]

>>53437236
You're not a benzo zombie, are you? If you are, be very careful m8. It's a life wrecker in the long run. A few years down the line you will see what I mean

[Anonymous No.53437379]

>>53436826
>what makes you think "leaving" a normie life will actually fix your issues lmao?
because that's what every normie and medical professional tells you.
>you just need to get out more
>practice makes perfect!
>you won't get over your problem if you don't try

[Anonymous No.53437391]

>>53437277
it's about more than just work. for introverts, work is a huge stressor. but op should consider that maybe he isn't a super introvert. maybe he instead has an undiagnosed anxiety disorder. there are treatments worth considering. exercise and diet is good advice too and should of course be tried first.

[Anonymous No.53437441]

>>53436865
>martial arts
What for, man? To roll in the floor doing a 69 with another men? To do funny kicks to score points? To waste 30 minutes doing stupid coreographies? Spending money in a monthly basis to get colored belts? Nah. If anything, boxing is acceptable, but still you have to interact with people and share time with retards, let's face it most people engaged in martial arts are too low IQ and too fanatical about their discipline. I did boxing for 6 months or so, and in the end of the day I hated being forced to interact with others, and most of time I didn't even box at all, just hitting some pads or a sandbag and that was it.

[Anonymous No.53437447]

>>53437391
look I am no psychologist and dont know anything about that but I'd like to think that if your body/mind is sending you messages like lets say depression or anxiety it is not something you should numb with medication. You need to change something. Maybe a lot. Maybe you need to take medication because your brain is so fucked from all the shit it had to deal with in the course of the years. Thats fine. But not changing anything and placing your hopes on some kind of wonder pill is not the course of action I would advice to achieve a happy life. But as I said I am not a professional and am simply speaking from my experience and might be completely wrong.

[Anonymous No.53437453]

>>53436746
Basically you gotta man up dude. I used to be kinda like you, but then I got a job where I had to get people to do shit and make angry phone calls. I grew up pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.53437497]

>>53436232
Yeah I hate it.

Even worse is I have a gf at home that wants me to spend time with her so I get no alone time.

[Anonymous No.53437604]

>>53436232
Find god

[Anonymous No.53437659]

>>53437319
That's a common normie sentiment. They can't handle not being part of any group they choose, so they redefined introvert.

[Anonymous No.53437761]

wow so many replies! Thanks a lot for all the advices, frens. i’m actually going to try some of them.
I’ve been to therapy for 8 years and it helped me to become somewhat stable and to function in society. But like someone else said the problems won’t just go away. Crossing 30‘s changed everything, you start to realize that fundamental things like having a relationship with a girl doesn’t really get along with your needs. My job itself isn’t bad, it’s just the things around it that drain my energy (getting up in the morning, having meetings all the time, eating in an overcrowded cafeteria, forced conversations, more responsibilities). Like someone else said i feel like a kid too, i don’t want responsibilities.
Yes, i still can’t accept myself for who i am even with 35 years. everyone around me is maturing while i got stuck. i just exist at this point. the sole thought of living like this for another 30-50 years makes me just wanna quit it.
>>53437319
kek yourself, faggot

[Anonymous No.53437809]

>>53437659
Yeah but they only take the terms that are getting people attention. Introvert has a certain positive connotation and association with 'shy' or 'demure', things the average roastie would like to imagine themselves to be. Compare loner, which can describe something similar but isn't adopted by women because it carries with it an implicitness that someone must have few if any friends and will tend to be alone most of the time either by isolation or choice.

[Anonymous No.53437820]

>>53436232
You need a more solitary job. I know the exact feeling you describe. After 9 hours surrounded by normies in close proximity I need to be in an isolation chamber to regain the ability to function.

[Anonymous No.53437862]

>>53437761
>i just exist at this point. the sole thought of living like this for another 30-50 years makes me just wanna quit it.

change something fren or you will wake up in 10 years and everything is the same. inner peace should be goal number one for everyone imo. how to get it is the question and it will lead you to the path you should walk on. godspeed. I will go to bed now.

[Anonymous No.53437890]

>>53436232

nothing here you cant fix,

find a new mountain to climb and find another job if you rlly cant take it anymore, it wont get better with time you will only get more bitter if you stay

[Anonymous No.53438090]

>>53436746
I have always been quite social + no autism, but still have a lot of behaviors very similar to yours. Then out of the blue I was diagnosed with panic disorders a few years ago, and let me tell ya it is not fun. I am still not sure what was the breaking point, probably accumulated stress, and I cannot really say I am out of it yet but slowly doing better. Maybe talk about this with a doctor as a start, everything takes time so better early than too late.

[Anonymous No.53438108]

>>53436232
Try writing, op. Fiction, poetry, essays, whatever you're interested in. There's a spiritual catharsis to it if you genuinely pour yourself into it and it's excellent for inner work on oneself. Also try calisthenics/running and read the works of Jung.

[Anonymous No.53438146]

>>53437447
>>53436746
i'm 37 and i'm figuring it out after 2 break ups.
there's definitely mental issues that lifting and health and wellness won't fix.
it does a lot - the body-mind connection but if the mind is broken it's the weak link in the chain.

all these normies, even the ones who are adjusted who say do this do that when some of you are broken to begin with. for example, attachment styles, some people are avoidant because they were abused, some are anxiously attached.
my earliest memory is being alone, crying on a grass lawn with a shoe missing. it's a small thing, but I never learned to be secure with myself, have self esteem and love myself. it's not until I can come to terms with that stuff that I am able to have a 'normie' mindset and I still do not, not yet at least.

search guided meditation on youtube
guided meditation self love
guided meditation letting go
anxiety etc

[Anonymous No.53438267]

>>53437441
Do Muay Thai. No belts either you win or lose, that’s it. Also you sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.53438321]

>>53436746
This was exactly how I felt from age 13-22. I hate when people say this but I literally just grew out of it although there was more too it. The contributing factor was getting a bizarre second wind of determination to just push through the bullshit and pursue something. I went to community college, got a 4.0 and transferred to a University on a full academic scholarship. After having almost failed out of HS due to drug use and malaise, that gave me confidence and turned everything around. Got a gf and cheated on her as often as I could. Eventually lost the gf and that sort of derailed shit for a while but I rebounded for a couple more great years.

Honestly, you heard it a million times but just fine one thing you are good at and put everything you have into doing it. You can even go overboard for a while as long as you derive some sense of satisfaction and confidence from it. Once that feeling gets released into your blood stream it can change you.

I got a bad leg injury after covid and relapsed and am basically a shut-in now but I had a great 12 year run that I wouldn't have thought was possible. Good luck anon.

[Anonymous No.53438365]

>>53437497
I have a girl I just met and I know she is interested and I set up a 2nd date, but I already have the same visions I’ve always had about a miserable existence with someone I tolerate but don’t love. She’s not very attractive and the personality is acceptable, but not really very interesting. I’ve been alone for so long that I figured I’ve become out of touch and unaware of my loneliness, but going in this meetup/date gave me the reality check again. This relationship would waste so much time, but I could just use it as a practice gf, which I hate, but could probably improve me somewhat.

[Anonymous No.53438374]

>>53436232

You should start fucking with:

>getting up early and doing intense cardio then weights
>drinking water
>taking psyllisibin mushrooms (microdose)
>seeing a therapist

[Anonymous No.53438381]

>>53438267
>Muay Thai
What for? To do weird dances all the time and shatter my shins kicking banana trees? No thanks.
>Win or lose
Yeah, win blisters or lose my shins, that's it

[Anonymous No.53438398]

>>53436232
Go to /r9k/, anon. You're an incel.

Their advice would be to become a woman:
> Everyone loves you when you're a girl
> LGBTQ community will bully your enemies on your behalf
> Boomers will pay you money to show them your bod
> Some chicks dig a lady boy.
When you become middle-aged, you can "de transition" and conservatives will applaud you.

Win-win.

[Anonymous No.53438413]

>>53436232
Try TRE, meditate, work out and go outside. Literally fixes 95% of anyones problems

[Anonymous No.53438443]

>>53436232
get into supplements

D3, Zinc, Maca Test Immune mood etc.
B-Complex energy
green tea extract
L-Tyrosine <- Dopamine Precursor, plus thyroid hormone precursor. This one is huge and you can basically get high using this, too
Iodine Selenium for thyroid
iron unless you eat alot of meat
magnesium
Ashwagandha
NAC
glycine

sideritis scardica tea lifts up your mood and prevents alzheimer

also hit the gym
creatine
l citrulline
beta alanin

etc

[Anonymous No.53438459]

Gym or pic rel

[Anonymous No.53438487]

>>53438321
The high it gives you when you become good at something and everyone around you starts acknowledging it can really drive someone over the edge if you're not ready for it. I was an extremely mediocre student who became a nepotism hire upon graduation, but I actually gradually found myself becoming more attentive and interested in the work I was doing and people took interest calling me stuff like genius and superstar. I was a complete retard with a 2.5 GPA in uni who nearly failed out of high school and was the butt of every joke by my peers regarding academic intellect but here I was being acknowledged as the genius I always imagined myself to be.

My luck ran out eventually like yours did. I got fired for getting too cocky and doing a little too much give-and-take with my insecure boss (who is now getting fired himself). But it was really nice while it lasted and it gave me a sense of direction for where I want to go next, something I never had before.

[Anonymous No.53438496]

>>53438398
These are not the same person you cunt

[Anonymous No.53438501]

>>53436298
I have a pet bird. She is so sweet. And they are much more intelligent than a dog. Depending on the type of person you are they are great friends, and mine helps me to emotionally regulate and am now better with people. My wife died from an overdose in 2020 and I have been alone ever since until last summer when I got the bird. My friend Angelina is the one who told me about birds as therapeutic animals and frens. I would never go back. Dogs don't live long enough.

[Anonymous No.53438518]

>>53436232
speech therapy dude
singing supposedly helps too
>dad had stroke & cancer simultaneously and struggles with speech
if you smoke anything, stop

[Anonymous No.53438525]

>>53438501
Can you describe how a bird is intelligent exactly and how its different from a dog? Never knew they could be therapeutic animals.

[Anonymous No.53439050]

>>53437136
once you let go of the concept that money is "important" and "necessary" then youll truly be free. It is only a tool... a tool you can use for your own goals, not schlomo's. Most people won't realize this in their life, true sheep to their (((cause)))

[Anonymous No.53439099]

>>53436901
They do. Lifting alone fixed me. After a hard workout you're just Zen since nothing else you do that day will be as hard

[Anonymous No.53439466]

I have a coworker who stutters, we have daily calls. nobody cares, stuttering doesn't bother anyone but you

[Anonymous No.53439619]

>>53438487
>it can really drive someone over the edge if you're not ready for it

Well said anon. For some reason I hadn't thought of it that way but thinking about it now it's completely accurate and I hadn't fully made the that obvious connection for some reason. I definitely destroyed the best relationships I had in the pursuit of what was, in retrospect, nothing worthwhile. But remember, you did it once. And having had it and lost it you basically just recalibrated yourself for the next good run.

[Anonymous No.53439639]

>>53436232
the reason you feel so drained is because you feel the need to maintain your defenses any time youre around people. Just let them down and relax and its not so bad.

[Anonymous No.53439676]

Try meds, seriously OP. As someone who tried to deal with anxiety for over a decade naturally, I gave in and tried prozac as well as hydroxyzine as an off label sleep aid. It's incredible what good quality sleep can do when you wake up the next day. I speak so clearly now and with no anxiety. Don't like it? You can always drop the meds if they don't work out. Try at least something.

[Anonymous No.53439690]

>>53438381
You are a pathetic rat, devoid of honour

[Jimmy No.53439871]

>>53439690
Yeah like going to a muay Thai McDojo gives you honour. It only gives money to your shifu, sensei, sabonim or whatever you call the "black belt" boomer in charge.

[Anonymous No.53439895]

>>53437604
this