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>slave away for almost 50 years of your life
>when you finally retire you only have a handful of years left where you're fit enough to do anything
>France are taking two of those years away
Based frogs for not sitting down and taking it. Governments think that the general population can't see right through the smoke & mirrors they've put in place to make them think they need to work themselves to death, all while the rich & powerful siphon away more money than even five generations of their family would never be able to spend. Godspeed, frogs.

How do we solve the problem of ageing populations & ballooning pension costs without causing riots?

>> No.53340770

Why are the french the only europeans with balls?
Keep fighting the good fight frens

Love from Portugal :)

>> No.53340772 [DELETED] 

>>53340748
Libtard hands posted this

>> No.53340778
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GREVE GENERALE

>> No.53340807

>>53340772
keep on working good g*y, it will trickle down any day now

>> No.53340813

>>53340770
The French have a strong socialist tradition. They were the only ones who had a general strike worthy of the name, too, but those days are long past. Closest thing since was the yellow vests movement. Fuck Macron, btw. He was a literal Rothschild banker.

>> No.53340825

>>53340770
The UK has been gripped by strikes since June last year, mostly by rail and postal workers. For most of December you couldn't send or receive mail, get a train or bus, see your GP, get an ambulance, or send your kids to school. Nurses went on strike for the first time ever. The sad part is that the government is doing literally nothing about it, except of course draft new bills to make strikes illegal. They know they're hated and are going to lose the next election so they're destroying the country on purpose to give the next government a massive mess to clean up. That's my theory anyway.

>> No.53340836

>>53340748
>nationwide strikes
It's mostly retards and poorfags who don't understand France can't keep giving away so much money.

>> No.53340854

why cant american wagies do this to demand an end to income tax for the middle class??

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>>53340825
Good fuck these selfish wankers using the cover of inflation to get more money which I pay for. Rail tickets are already 4000% higher than they should be, train drivers (obsolete job, could be automated) are paid 50% at least more than they should be. These wankers can fuck right off mate we're not fucking socialists in this country fucking tosspots the lot of them to the devil with them.

>> No.53340870

>>53340836
>France can't keep giving away so much money
Try every advanced economy, including the US. Ageing population is a huge problem that's affecting every developed country. Policies that worked in the past because there were 7 young people for every retiring person are no longer working now that there are only 2 or 3. Something has to change or else these countries' economies are going to collapse.

>> No.53340877

You have to understand that France was riddled with communists and socialists in all layers of society (especially the higher layers) .
Even now France is ruled by socialists, more or less in disguise.
France has still not recovered from a century of socialism, and miterrand totally destroyed any skills the Bureaucrats may had... A french bureaucrat is a subhuman piece of shit .

All the old politicians nowadays were the young champagne leftist assholes who embarked into politics in the miterrand era and they turned france to shit in less than 40 years by refusing to do anything for the country, but pushing for more muslims and that's it.
All the problems France has right now stems from those scumbags.

>> No.53340886

>>53340860
They are employed by private companies that have been posting record profits while their employees wages have stayed the same for years despite hyperinflation. They have every right to strike, no matter how much they were already getting paid. What was fair then isn't now.

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>>53340748
While I agree with you, allow me to play the jews advocate.
Retirement age used to be 65, you would be retired and be rightfully paid until death, usually around 10 to 15 years later.
However, now people live longer, and there's a whole lot more leeches hanging around until 85 or even 95.
The government is so poorly run it cannot afford to pay it, so out of laziness they simply want you to work longer so they don't have to pay.

I think all unemployed leeches should have benefits axed altogether. Only those actively seeking work (you receive max of 3 months to find a job).

Anyway, france is fucked more ways then one. Realistically the entire EU would be better managed entirely ran by Germany. Whether or not you disagree is irrelevant, they have the most efficient and profitable economy outside of the Nords

>> No.53340917

>>53340748
Fuck all governments ponzi schemes such as this
Taxation is theft go fuck yourself retard

>> No.53340918

>>53340893
The Pole fears the robot toilet cleaner

>> No.53340924

>>53340893
>I think all unemployed leeches should have benefits axed altogether. Only those actively seeking work (you receive max of 3 months to find a job).
draconian laws like this lead to civil unrest and far bigger problems. What happens when there's a depression and getting a job becomes next to impossible? We need safety nets for people.

>> No.53340932

>>53340748
Does anyone honestly think strikes and protests work? It goes on for a few days and maybe weeks and then everyone just forgets about it. I honestly think that if people are so discontent with the government, they really need to up their game.

>> No.53340955

>>53340932
They've worked in France pretty much every time. But I have my doubts this time because the problem is too great.

>> No.53340956

>>53340748
>Governments think that the general population can't see right through the smoke & mirrors they've put in place to make them think they need to work themselves to death
The goyim will wake up for real this time! said increasingly fed up goyim for the nth time this century.
>just now indirectly realizing that fiat monetary system is a joke

>> No.53340957

>>53340924
Your "safety nets" (forced ponzi schemes at gun point) are in part the cause of so much immigration and depressions, fuck you.
If you want to support "safety nets" you do it with your own fucking resources, not mine because I don't LARP as a selfless philanthropist with the stuff of other people like you.
So you either put your money where your mouth is by voluntarily giving your capital to ahmed or you shut the fuck up with your shitty road to serfdom virtue signaling, fagget

>> No.53340968

>>53340957
Immigration is a big part of the solution to the demographic problem, sorry. Tight restrictions on immigration is strangling the UK economy with the largest number of job vacancies in history.

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SI TU PENDS PAS LPATRON,
T'AURAS PAS SA GALETTE
SI TU PENDS PAS LPATRON
T'AURAS PAS SON POGNON

>> No.53340988

>Imagine actually paying into a government pyramid scheme
All those social security payments would have done better in the stock market. kek

>> No.53340998

>>53340748
>slave away for almost 50 years of your life GOOD
>slave away for almost 48 years of your life BAD
normies are fucking braindead

>> No.53341008

>>53340998
You have to play with the hand you're dealt, but that doesn't mean you can't protest when people try to take a few of your cards away.

>> No.53341011

>>53340957
Philanthropy is for money laundering, tax evasion, and fraud, while publicizing your devotion to effective altruism through fluffing up mutual friends' causes.

>>53340968
Higher wages, less regressive taxation, affordable housing. Just some of the things that could help the situation greatly. Simple things that are impossible because they're made to be impossible.

>> No.53341023

>>53340748
Reminder that when your turn finally comes 30 to 40 years from now they won't allow you to retire.

>> No.53341032

>>53341008
it's still stupid, it's like throwing a fuss over winning 1m and getting "only" 950k. npcs can't put thing in perspective, 2/3 of their life is literally wasted and that's ok, but 2 more years in the retirement home is suddenly a big deal

>> No.53341050

>>53340748
>government you need to give us better pensions!!
>ok but You need to increase your population to be able to pay for your pensions when you are old
>nooo my body my choice FASICT
>ok I bring immigrants then
10 years later
>nooooo why France looks like Congo, this is white genocide!!!!!
Greedy bastards. Though if government want to give lower pensions, they need to lower their taxes too, but like all liberal retards, these protesters think taxes are “necessary”

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>>53340968
Are you retarded? Immigration is, at best, a temporary solution. The whole world population will decline as other nations increase their living standards and overall wealth. African birth rates have been falling like rocks as they are slowly industrialized and brought into the 21st century. Following this pattern, populations will plateau across the world and "the west" will not be able to get immigrants anymore eventually. Immigrants' birth rates also tend to fall to be on par with the native population of their new countries within one generation of living somewhere. So nothing changes, fundamentally. You will still have too many old people being supported by too few young people.
The root of the problem is that you're running a pyramid scheme. You can't really fix it by bringing in more people lol. That just makes it a bigger pyramid scheme!

>> No.53341077

>>53340778
Adele literally got BlackedRAW™.

>> No.53341082

>>53341062
>African birth rates have been falling like rocks as they are slowly industrialized and brought into the 21st century.
Lel nice cope. It won’t happen since we keep a steady migration of them to west and providing food for them to breed more.
https://sf.gov/news/program-providing-basic-income-black-pregnant-women-expands-help-mothers-across-state

>> No.53341113

>>53341082
Wrong link, though what I provided is kinda relatable too.
Here is a correct one, pop of sub Saharan africa:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Historical-and-projected-population-trends-in-Sub-Saharan-Africa-Europe-and-Asia_fig1_328600158
Nigeria has 50% of its population, about 100 million living in poverty and we are STILL providing them with more food to breed more.
https://chlpi.org/news-and-events/news-and-commentary/food-law-and-policy/food-donation-can-help-nigeria-fight-hunger-and-cut-food-waste/

>> No.53341143

>>53341062
Forgot to add.
You are fundamentally correct since this growth for the sake of growth is flawed. In order to pay pensions for old people, you need to have even a higher population of able young people willing to work, and then even a higher young population for those when they turn old.
Unstable at its core.
People who are protesting for “higher pension” should instead protest for lower taxes. They are literally begging France to bring in more Africans to their nations at this point, cause the only way for higher pension for old population of francs, is immigrants.

>> No.53341149

>>53341082
I can post links too.
https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/central-african-republic-demographics/#tfr
I'm not saying they don't breed like mad now but you can clearly see the declining pattern and compared to decades ago, they have much less kids. Now look at the African immigrants in your country. How many kids did they have and how many kids did those kids have and their kids? I'd wager you'll see a sharp decline.

>> No.53341160

>>53340748
French train workers retire at like 50. Meanwhile us northern Euro cucks have to work till 67 at least. Having to work 2 extra years while living on average 15 years longer compared to when these retirement ages were set makes them chimp out, it's mind boggling. Who do they expect is going to pay their pensions when they are out of the workforce longer than they were in it?

>> No.53341166

>>53340825
>they're destroying the country on purpose
lol, the populace did it already with that brexit thingy

>> No.53341169

>>53340807
Keep on asking for more pensions,they will turn your nation in Congo, cause expecting higher pension on native population is an unstable pyramid scheme.

>> No.53341170

>>53340748
lol the normalfag cattle will never wake up to the fact that they have 6 inches of government dick up their ass.

>> No.53341185

>be French
>work 30 hours/week
>retire at 83
>life expectancy 85

>Be American
>Work 48 hours/week
>Retire at 67
>Life expectancy 79

How do I become more French?

>> No.53341194

>>53341185
63 lmao I'm very drunk

>> No.53341202

>>53340748
>How do we solve the problem of ageing populations & ballooning pension costs

Exactly, so why are you complaining about the French government increasing the retirement age?

The fact is the west is a ponzi scheme for the benefit of boomers, and millenials and zoomers will not get the same benefits, it's just how it is.

>> No.53341214

>>53341143
I'm happy to point out the problems with the system but it's so hard to come up with a solution other than the obvious one of ending social security. Even if we could ever convince the populace to do away with SS, what would we do with current pensions? We could slowly taper it off over decades as it would be impossible to pay out what has been paid into already for current pensioners. There is also the insurance aspect of SS in the case of early death for husband's etc. I suppose private life insurance products would have to step in there.

>> No.53341229

>>53341149
I know. I agree that reproduction trends of immigrants will follow the trend of natives. That was true.
The issue is that if you keep bringing immigrants, you are producing incentives for the Africans to breed more.
And it will keep going on and on and on, until either welfare states crack, (((economists))) are hanged, or the kalergi plan is completed

>> No.53341231

>>53341214
Euthanise everyone over the age of 65.

Problem solved.

>> No.53341232

>>53340748
Well, this is what deindustrialization and liberalism do to a country. People in Europe start to realize that they become poorer every year and there's nothing they can do about it. They delocalized their industries to third world countries, propagated f*minism and THE WORLD BELONGS TO YOU GIRL, TAKE MOST OF IT, which leads to braindead hedonism and therefore low birth rates. France though has one of the highest birth rates in Europe, but you cannot cure brain tumor with some aspirin. In the 60s there were 5 workers per every pensionner, now this number dropped to 1,7. What would you do if you were a politician only interested in short-term economic growth? That's right, bring slave labor from undevelopped countries.
This pension reform is just a symptom of a LARGE problem of Western impoverishment.

>> No.53341247

>>53341160
This post make me think: why does every country define the retirement age as "n years" instead of setting it as "[mode of lifespan over the last 20 years] - 10 years" ?

>> No.53341246

>>53340748
in spain more than 40% of the government income goes to pay pensions and they're upping them 8.5% this year (its election year)

I wish all boomers would die in minecraft

>> No.53341251

>>53341185
>be French, following the highest trend of ethnic replacement, just for the sake of one generation of old people having a good pension
Lol ironically, this might be the last generation of the good time. An Africanized France won’t be liveabke anymore

>> No.53341259

>>53340968
muslim immigrants are a sinkhole of money, they take way more money from the system than they give, check the numbers

>> No.53341262

>>53340748
Its ok to be poor as long you have access to young women for sex and companionship. Everything else is a proxy for it. If you were given hot young girl you would be fine living in a tent

>> No.53341279

>>53341214
Two ways
1- constant migration to the point that every few generation you will have a complete ethnic replacement. If you choose this, there will no longer exist such a thing as “French” or “France” anymore. It will be a corporations, who keep cycling through employees
2-total dictatorship, eugenics, controlled population growth, forced euthanasia after a certain age. This also means death of French culture to a point , but at least there exist French people.
That’s if you want to keep the pension. If not,
3-You can get rid of it, and get rid of taxes and let people figure it out for themselves. But govenrment is too greedy and need money so third way is totally impossible.

>> No.53341282

>>53341229
I suppose ending food programs would help as well. Encouraging agriculture and agriculture education would help to stabilize food production in certain places. But yeah, agreed. Welfare states need to crack to discourage immigrants seeking gibs. Talented ones are still fine as they would likely produce more for their new country than they would take.
Your solution #2 is always a good choice too.

>> No.53341286

To understand leftism you can look at France and their perpetual protests. This culture of revolt and uprising is fed by the humanists, ie the atheist ruling class (ie oligarchs, bureaucrats, academia, entertainers, journalists), since now that 99% of the whole world is humanist with democracy this and republics that, their big idea was to do a revolution on the republic, but with the republic already being the revolution on the monarchy, this doesnt work. This is called marxism. the humanists are still hyping revolution to stay in power and intellectually being omnipresent on the political field, and entertain the plebeians of some ''change'' and doing another revolution (which again doesnt make sense, even intellectually since it is the atheists who have been in power since 1789) but this time ''the real revolution will happen'' and this time ''the people will have a voice'' and so on

You have to understand that this humanism is a religion, just like any other. It has dogmas, it has symbols, it has oppression and it has lots of hypocrisy.

So the atheist baptism is to actually revolt on the bureaucrats and their atheist cops that they sent. For the generic champagne leftist, it is really an atheist ritual to fight at least once the cops in the street of paris. For the middle class it is just venting out and breaking public shit. Again it is really fucked up because both the bureaucrats and the peasants are the same people saying the republics is awesome and there should be more bureaucrats telling people what to do and giving money to the plebs.
Humanism is just utterly fucked up.
On the cop side, the cops are eager to fuck the peasants up. They say explicit they cant wait to beat up the protestors.
Plus bureaucrats are shit at managing anything, especially a city, a country, really anything, even their bureaucracy. So lots of outcry from the roasties and twitter tards, and tactical mistakes from the cops

>> No.53341294

>>53341286
humanists are bored since the day they killed monarchy for good, and now they turn inward, so they hate themselves lol

>> No.53341295

>>53341262
>live in tent
>coom in 20yr old hottie every day
>be happy

If the WEF can make good enough sex bots, maybe we'll all actually own nothing and be happy.

>> No.53341317

>>53341247
danemark is defining it with life expectancy, they plan to rise the retirement age to 70, but life expectancy increases

>> No.53341323

>>53341317
>, but life expectancy increases
because, not but lol

>> No.53341332

>>53341160
Why have a single state-controlled pension fund? Seems better to force everyone to sacrifice a % of their earnings into compulsory retirement savings

>> No.53341335

>>53341282
The problem is that “agriculture” is not viable in a lot of places.
Jean used to be 20 million 80 years ago, now they are 88 million, in an actual drought and energy crisis (despite having oil and gas unlike Europe.)
Iraq, used to be the Fertile Crescent now is about to become a total desert thanks to Turkey putting a dam on its rivers that goes to Turkey and end up in perisan gulf.
What those people going to do?
In ancient time, they would have migrated, killed raped and looted on their way.
In current world, they will die, since borders will be closed.
However, thanks to UN, they will be saved and dropped DIRECTLY into your nation. What would happen then?
Solution two needs alot of fearless men with intact balls, but we have none.

>> No.53341342

>>53341332
because that way they can spend everything they take away from us today
its a ponzi

>> No.53341343

>>53340748
>slave away for almost 50 years of your life
based retard
work starts no earlier than 18 in france and legal retirement age is 62
macron wants to change it to 60
in practice this means nothing because most people will want to work to 65-67 for a full pension
you're falling for the very smoke & mirrors you think yourself smart enough to spot. peak dunning-kruger

>> No.53341353

>>53341335
>jean
Meant Iran

>> No.53341355

>>53340748
You could just retire early with the stock market itself

>> No.53341385

>>53341232
>France though has one of the highest birth rates in Europe
most of that is muslims and africans hidden behind the veil of ethnic statistics being illegal
per the french govt in 1980 france had 10% immigrants
per the french govt in 2023 france has 10% immigrants
but somehow babies at risk of sickle cell disease (= nafris and arabs) are 40%+ countrywide and 80%+ around paris

>> No.53341390

>>53341343
The bill is to change the retirement age 62->64. If the French wanted to work until they are 67 why are they protesting?

>> No.53341411

>>53340748
The worst problem is that Macron said himself in a 2019 speech that raising the retirement age would be stupid and hypocritical.
https://youtu.be/vojlKaEsr_I
(Press CC for the machine translation)
So why is he pushing for it now ? It's probably because of pressure from the EU, because it's not an urgency at all (pensions had an excess of 1 billion last year) and it's not the right moment at all since everyone is already angry because of inflation and cost of energy. He also knows that he won't be president after 2027 so he probably doesn't care. Why french people voted for such an asshole AGAIN is a mystery to me.

>>53340998
Well said goyim, 2 years of your life is worth nothing. Nothing !

>> No.53341427

>>53341251
Idk anymore fren my home town has gone from 90% white to 80% Hispanic in a few decades

>> No.53341449

>>53341427
Same reasoning.
(((Population collapse))) and (((social security))) goes hand in hand.
Who gonna pay for ss if population doesn’t infinity grows?
Native population even at replacement rate can’t answer this, so they bring in more and more and more.
Just hope Ss breaks

>> No.53341459

>>53341411
>Well said goyim, 2 years of your life is worth nothing. Nothing !
Yes goyim that 2 years of life totally worth the million excess vibrant Africans in France.

>> No.53341465

>>53341385
Because the children of immigrants are not immigrants in the stats

>> No.53341468

>>53341411
it's worth nothing when you throw away the other 48

>> No.53341469

>>53341459
it would be worth it if segregation and apartheid were brought back. keep all of the niggermonkey slaves in cages while the rest of us benefit from it.

>> No.53341482

>>53341469
That require balls.
Frenchie seems to just have it for “forcing” government to fix pension, but seems to be ok with becoming a minority.
Weird world man.

>> No.53341486

>>53341449
Why would a population at replacement rates not be able to support ss?

>> No.53341498

>>53341469
Apartheid was the worst thing that ever happened. Under it African numbers actually grown. You need a system with actual population control and eugenics
>>53341486
Because of inflation, and lower wages.
You need MORE people to support the system.

>> No.53341499

>>53341459
Unrelated
>>53341468
Projecting

It's that the best you've got ?

>> No.53341530

>>53341499
Totally related.
You know, and I know, that pensions are not sustainable. 2 years of extra pension might not be anything , but when you count all the people who are going to be on it, you are looking at a huge number that needs MUCH higher number of workers to support it. Unless you are right at the retirement age, you are going to enjoy your pension inside a negrefied zoo of France.
Ofcourse it’s not your fault, but all these pension games are just bullshit that government pulls as an excuse for more immigrants to lubricator the economy with.

>> No.53341574

>>53341498
>Because of inflation, and lower wages.
The sounds more like an issue with debt based currency issuance and real compensation not matching productivity.
If a population was staying static and the currency was designed to devalue there is no reason ss wouldn't be viable

>> No.53341584

>>53341574
*was not designed

>> No.53341605

>>53341498
fair point. maybe we selectively open borders on the condition that these immigrants live only in segregated living zones and face mandatory sterilization.

>> No.53341611

>>53340748
Won’t change anything. Plus the pension system in this country is a Ponzi. I’m paying for retirement even though I’ll never have a pension.

>> No.53341626

>>53341574
You actually think a nation controlled by (((economists))) would act like a high quality product? Lol this shit is designed to break.

>> No.53341640

>>53341185
The French person here would have enjoyed a way lower standard of living all throughout their life.

>> No.53341644

>>53341605
At this point, my only hope is designer babies. Though I can foresee a future that sjw bitch and moan about “white babies” and government try to force a “percentage of black white etc designer babies should be equql” but I don’t think there would be even a government at that point.
And corporations would be happy to give you your white baby.
Hell, China korea and Japan have sperm banks filled with white men jizz.
Though a fair warning, even with this trend, there might not be anything called “French” or “France” anymore.
All this, IF oil doesn’t ran out, no global disasters and no unlimited energy

>> No.53341650

>>53340748
meanwhile, it's 65 in switzerland and we're mocking frenchfags for being lazy.
>t. we voted against having one more paid vacation week

>> No.53341653

>>53341530
The worst projected deficit is 7 billions, which is nothing compared to the whole budget of pensions (331 billions) and can be easily compensated elsewhere. The truth is that the EU doesn't want France to spend more than 10% of its budget on pensions(currently 14%), and pension funds want to take their share of the cake because more and more people won't have a big enough pension after retirement and will have to take a voluntary supplementary pension to complete it, for those who can afford it.

You're right by saying it's bullshit pushed by Big Money to make us crawl.

>> No.53341668

>>53341653
Lol it seems they are going to piss the money either way anyway. So ye, at this point, go give them hell bro.

>> No.53341688

>>53340748
>How do we solve the problem of ageing populations & ballooning pension costs without causing riots?
Remove the boomers.

>> No.53341691

>>53341644
If we're at the point that we can pick and choose the traits of our children, why even caring about their race? Just make then all green for fucks sake

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>>53341688
>How do we solve the problem of ageing populations & ballooning pension costs without causing riots?
we already did, trust the plan

>> No.53341698

>>53340870
>boomer niggers vote for bigger pensions than their parents
>have fewer kids than their parents
>all the niggers they imported just go on welfare
>kids make no money and have zero kids at 40
>HURR WHY THINGS NOT WORK
Remove the boomers.

>> No.53341709

>>53341691
Oh you really think they wouldn’t care.
They are already pissing themselves of the “racism of designer babies” and we are decades away.
It’s like the whole sexbot debate. We are decades away from a functioning ones and they are already making articles about its dangers.
Same shit.

>> No.53341712

>>53341691
Because leftists and SJWs want to control people. They will always find a way to exercise control on others.

>> No.53341715

Most strikers are government workers who inherited their jobs from their parents. In the public sector jobs pass down from father to son. They get no symphathy from the common people who have to slave away to survive.

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>> No.53341741

>>53341715
we should all work for jewish megacorporations, ideally one headquartered in the jewnited states of nigmerica.

>> No.53341748

>>53341691
I mean This negro would be so happy to have a white baby
She sounds so optimistic
https://ryangosha.medium.com/crispr-gene-editing-could-fix-racism-d100b03c7bd5

>> No.53341813

>>53341726
>>53341735
It's not good protesting without merguez and chipos. And beer.

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>>53341698
This. Fuck childless boomers. They spend all their wealth and money on holidays and overpriced plastic shit instead of raising children. Now they expect the kids of others to feed them + they vote to import more shitskins to clean their asses in their nursing homes for minimum wage.

Childless boomers shouldn't get a single cent from the state. Its unreal how much I hate them

>> No.53341829

>>53341709
>racism of designer babies
My understanding is that this was more about the advantages a designer baby would have over pleb babies and less about the colour/race or the resulting child. Essentially splitting the population into the elite genetically augmented class and their subservient normals

>> No.53341831

>>53340778
BBC Queen

>> No.53341844

>>53341829
There was a movie about this. Except one guy was a 'normal' and his brother was genetically augmented.

>> No.53341852

>>53341385
>but somehow babies at risk of sickle cell disease (= nafris and arabs) are 40%+ countrywide and 80%+ around paris
Where did you get these numbers from?

>> No.53341901

>>53340877
This is correct. To anybody in this thread that believes socialism works, think about the fact that we are about to inflate and face a horrible reckoning because socialist policies have us paying 50% of our incomes (more sometimes) and we STILL NEED TO PRINT THE DIFFERENCE.
Socialism DOES NOT WORK.

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people who vote for the leftists [red] are all the students, all the muslims and all the roasties educated in bullshit studies who will end up in a bureaucratic job.

>> No.53341908

>>53341829
>>53341844
Movie was gattaca.
People would assigned jobs based on their genes, and dating were such that it was part of dating scene to collect hair sample and then check at clinic to see if they are a good match or not. (Which was retarded given that sample test takes time, but in movie testing taken about 2 minutes)
We will have plebs vs elite super men too, but just like before, plebs will be blamed for everything that elites do; and thus wanting a white baby would become bad and racist for plebs

>> No.53341998

>>53341901
>think about the fact that we are about to inflate
About 50% of all money in existence was printed since 2020. Majority of which was used to prop up corporate entities and the stock market. I don't give a fuck about socialism but you are smooth brained if you think we are inflating due to socialist policies

>> No.53342000

>>53341852
you can find old data on the public internet from 2015-2018, stats were 30%ish and 70%ish then and quickly deboonked by terminally online parisians who argued that askhually, every baby is tested as a precaution (this is not true)
i work at a semi high level with people in the field and have access to large current day databases. obviously you can call me a larper on 4chins, but the private numbers match any reasonable extrapolation from past public data anyway

>> No.53342034

>>53341650
Again, different standards of living. I’d rather work until 70 in Switzerland than age 55 in France.

>> No.53342108

>>53341998
Printing money and giving it to corporations is socialism.
"the companies will go bankrupt"
>who cares
"everybody will be unemployed"
>Ah ok i get it now yeah we'll print this is important
"awesome"
That's socialism. The government should be limited and incapable of printing money.

>> No.53342130

>>53340870
>boomers laughing all the way to the bank after pilaging the global economy
>final fuck you is to make sure that we have to slave to death to support them
kind of hilarious really

>> No.53342145

>>53342034
This. And in France we pay a lot for our pensions. 40% of our salary goes every month into health and unemployment insurance, and pensions.

>> No.53342153

Nobody should retire, I want wagies working round the clock forever. Who else will bring me my tendies?

>> No.53342165

>>53341259
obviously you need the right kind of immigrants, not asylum seekers.

>> No.53342171

>>53342130
This wouldn't be possible if people were not so invested in the system. instead of saving and building their own businesses, skills or honestly owning more of what they consume, people have been paying into pensions which they will not benefit from (the value of the pension payout will be far less than what was contributed) and other systems like 'free' healthcare or 'free' education will likewise falter.
People should not trust these guys. Government does not give a single fuck about the long term, they just want you to vote for them.

>> No.53342184

>>53342171
To be fair -- these systems were ALWAYS a ponzi. I'm not saying I agree with any of it but it's probably right that they can't make it work under their existing finances without dramatically increasing taxes. Of course they could stop giving so much money to niggers and green energy incentives but that's never gonna happen

>> No.53342200

>>53341202
>so why are you complaining about the French government increasing the retirement age
Because it's only the obvious solution, not the best. Making people work for longer will not bring in enough money to cover the costs, not even close. It's a band-aid.

>> No.53342201

>>53342165
Thats racist anon.

>> No.53342212

>>53340917
this. also the reason i stopped paying income tax. fuck it

>> No.53342241

>>53342201
It's purely for survival. At this point we only need those who are going to help the economy gain some health, not people who are likely going to make it worse.

>> No.53342259

>>53341166
>having strong MSM approved opinions on a topic
>referring to it as a 'thingy'
You belong in a mass grave

>> No.53342268

>>53342108
It's literally called bailout capitalism you drongo

>> No.53342311

>>53341262
This. Hoeflation is the root cause.

>> No.53342397

>>53342108
they do that so the capitalist economy doesnt collapse

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always funny to see the sheep embracing the current things

>> No.53342487

>>53341262
Is this sarcasm? This already is happening. Why do you think porn is so heavily pedaled? But if it really went that far, I will want to burn the world down if people became that cattle brain dead just to accept becoming a semen receptacle. It would be even worse than porn addled addicts, it will become almost the entire population like zombies. It sounds like a Twilight Zone nightmare scenario. Please, anon, don't spread such dystopian theories ...

>> No.53342559

>>53340748
Maybe start with taking away some of the wealth that the 1% are holding onto,
Pretty obvious its not trickling down

oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-bag-nearly-twice-much-wealth-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years

>> No.53342574

>>53340886
This. If you think they're making more than you YOU should be striking and demanding higher wages, not complaining someone else is trying to make that dollar.

>> No.53342713

>>53342184
That's why this system needs to crumble. The later it will happen, the more painful it will be.

>> No.53342716

>>53342559
shhh we aren't allowed to talk about that. It's all the working class' fault.

>> No.53342792

>>53340748
you could try not working 50 years of your life instead of protesting about a couple of years when your are old....
wagies are retarded and they think they're winning when they protest some nonsense

>> No.53342846

>>53340854
Suburbia and the automobile

>> No.53342909

>>53340854
>>53342846
yeah the last time the americans protested, it was occupy wall street and the leftists pushed the wokism on 20 something roasties and BBCs as counter fire lol

>> No.53343311
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>>53341062
>African birth rates have been falling like rocks
lol

>> No.53343721

>>53342559
Oh fuck off. If anything we need to increase income tax from the bottom up to at least 50% minimum.

>> No.53343938

>>53340968
>>53340924
What will be the title of this article and for which "publication" do you write for?

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>> No.53344275

>>53340748
>How do we solve the problem of ageing populations & ballooning pension costs without causing riots?
Lower the cost of living. That's literally it. Only welfare niggers and pedobankers have strong incentives to reproduce in this economy

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>>53340748
>Be French
>Live with your parents
>Start career around 26
>Barely work 6 hours a day, 4 days a week
>Smoke like a chimney
>Drink two bottles of wine a day
>White bread, butter and cheese with every meal
>Retire at 55
>Only have a couple of years left to live

>> No.53344334

>>53343938
I'm flattered you think so highly of me anon but I'm just a dude.

>> No.53344361

>>53342259
very based indeed

>> No.53344405

>>53340968
>NOOOOOO YOU MUST LET IN ZE MIGRANTS FOR ZE ECONOMY
>YES G.. FREN IT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO

https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/may/unite-secures-massive-pay-rise-of-over-20-for-mcpherson-hgv-drivers/

>> No.53344599

>>53340968
Higher wages, affordable housing, and training the native workforce would remedy this, but that means change and cutting in to the bottom line right now, regardless of the success it would bring in the future.

>> No.53344981

>>53340770

Almost all the other notable European countries still have literal kings. They gaslight themselves into thinking that the monarchy "doesn't have any actual power", but in reality all power is derived from the crown and their laws have no legally defined merit without approval of the crown. Any act of UK Parliament requires royal assent to be legitimate and the monarchy can deny this assent (and therefore the will of the people) for any reason they want.

France is the only Western EU country that fought a proper revolution against an internal power contained within their borders. It's baked into their culture and identity. The few others that don't have kings didn't fight revolutions to get there, they usually just introduced some form of non-monarchy only after the existing monarchy collapsed on itself.

>> No.53345234

>>53342259
based
>>53341166
subhuman

>> No.53345285

>>53341166
>noooo you have to give your tax money to the shithole countries NOOOOOO

>> No.53345336

>>53343721
kill yourself immediately before i come find you first

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>>53340968

>> No.53345453

>>53340748
>France have balls
>Being replaced by North Africans and Africans
>Social programs under intense strain from 12 kids per family

>> No.53345899

>>53343311
uncle chang and his armies will need all the black hands they can get to mine cobalt and other essential resources and minerals

>> No.53346011

>>53345336
The only thing that matters in life is increasing profit. If that's at the expense of someone else then so be it, they aren't more important.

>> No.53346177

>>53340748
>without causing riots
Sounds like the wrong path to take

>> No.53346256

>>53340748

>relying on the government to take care of you

That's stupid, even by French standards

>> No.53346272

>>53340870
Private pensions in the USA are fine. It's the socialist State-run pensions that are a disaster. Because - surprise - politicians always promise more than they can deliver.

>> No.53346696

>>53341166
Idiotic statement

>> No.53346856

>>53346272
you realise social security was set up in the 1930s after the great depression forced millions into poverty, right? It's only in the last few decades that it's become a big issue.

>> No.53346895

France is a great example of why unchecked socialism with no common sense becomes a complete dystopia. No amount of protests or riots is going to fix the corrupt government or the massive demographic crisis they have that is the root of all of their problems. You simply can't have a social support net system that strong and only less than 40% of people are paying into it and the majority of the population are a net tax negative across their entire lifetime.

>>53346856
Social security has always been a net negative program that was doomed to fail.

>> No.53347095

>>53341262
>>53346895
As opposed to capitalist nations with the same demographics and financial problems?
Lmfao.

>> No.53347115

>>53340748
They need to take the retirement pensions away so that they can pay for the freshly imported bbc stock to breed the white women

>> No.53347126

>>53340748
Frenchfag here, you pay over 40% income taxes + social security and other jewish taxes, and you wagecuck until you're 70, I see some senile oldfags going to work in the trains when it's full of people, it's a sad sight frens.
Anyways these Euro shitholes won't survive whatever is coming, we got cucked by the United States of Israel, Bongland & America a century ago, they got us to fight among each other while they took all our gold and ended on top of the world.

>> No.53347226

>>53341166
Lol Brexit has been totally and utterly based. The elite HATE it though and literally are trying to kill the country so the people are either punished or cry to rejoin.

>> No.53347292

>old people looting the wealth of the young via seniority, government jobs, benefits that no young person needs, etc

Look no further than the whole socialist ideal for why birth rates drop

Who owns all the housing driving up costs? Boomers in retirement...

>> No.53347345

>>53340877
Socialism works cope and seethe neoliberal middle management fag.

>> No.53347366

>>53340957
Taxation exists cry about it.
Why are lolbertarians so retarded? The epitome of the parasitical class.

>> No.53347380

>>53347226
this is one hell of a cope my friend.
>it isn't brexit's fault! the elite are trying to make it look bad is all!

>> No.53347390

>>53341032
>ungrateful plebs don’t they know how good we treat them

>> No.53347426

>>53341640
Really that’s your cope?
>Ah France, they have it so hard. They can’t afford the same quantity of consumer goods I can.
Bugman

>> No.53347468

>>53346895
How is France a dystopia? What country do you live in?

>> No.53347591

>>53347468
20% youth unemployment, hordes of migrants committing crimes (iirc, Macron said that 70% of categories of crimes are committed by migrants...most European countries don't even record this), revolving door at the top of society between large corporates/govt/civil service, if you didn't go to grand ecoles you are wage pig for life, massive political resources go into various forms of protections for business over consumers, I can go on.

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>>53347591
At that point French democracy is dead. Macron doesn't even have the majority in the parliament, so each time he wants to pass an unpopular law, he uses the 49.3 (a law that lets him bypass the parliament's vote) to pass it by force. There is no counter power anymore.

Even if there are huge protests today in France, Macron and his government aren't even in the country, they're all in Spain to sign some faggy cooperation agreement. They're basically giving us the finger. Macron is the same breed as Trudeau, no spine, no legitimity and no balls.

>>53346256
The problem is that as soon as there's the smallest problem, people are crying and asking why the government doesn't solve it. It's a mental cage, and most people don't even realize it.

>> No.53348204

>Peaceful strikes
You've fallen for the "peaceful protest" that the media has pushed. Your forefathers would look at you with disgust.

>> No.53348340

>>53348204
The problem is the medias. They're going to label you a terrorist or whatever as soon as you dare transgressing the law, see what happened at the Capitol during the last POTUS elections. And if you lose public support it's over. You try to blockade roads like in Canada ? Too bad, bank account suspended. What is a good way to fight in such a cucked world ?

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*pushes you below the poverty line*

>> No.53348856

>>53340748
skill issue. only poor people need pension and based on literally every other thread here no one should need it

>> No.53349036

>>53342259
Based

>> No.53349097

>>53346272
What private pensions are you talking about? Corps hate pensions. They’d rather give Goyim 401ks.

>> No.53349116

>>53348856
>he thinks /biz/ posters are being truthful about their net worth

I thought winter break was over for schools.

>> No.53349163

>>53340860
i never understood why trains NEED a human driver. its on rails that lead it to the right direction and there has to be tech with redundancy that can increase or lower speed as needed and apply brakes as needed. these aren't cars that actually need steering to stay on the road

>> No.53349302

>>53349116
of course i don't but between all those posts this one feels out of place

>> No.53349638

>>53349163
>there has to be tech with redundancy
Human plays the role of said redundancy.

>> No.53349664

>>53347591
>>53348085
Shame LePen sold out Frenchbros is their anyone your hopeful for turning things around?

>> No.53349710

>>53340748
>More robots and automation means we'll work longer

Gee thank you WEF. Future so bright we'll need radiation meds.

>> No.53349858

>>53340854
America imports scabs by the million to keep the "cost of labor" (aka wages) low.

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>>53347591
> if you didn't go to grand ecoles you are wage pig for life
J'ai juste fait la putain de fac, un bête parcours dans le public de A à Z pour un Master en info standard. J'ai 49j de congés par ans, ke pars au ski ce samedi, et j'ai 170K€ que j'ai pu foutre de côté juste avec 10 ans de taff malgré un putain de loyer stratosphérique que me vampirise un putain de boomer. Bouge toi le cul au lieu de te plaindre, le système permet d'offre des chances ; enfin, pour ceux qui n'ont pas un QI à 2 chiffres.
Et sois à l'heure pour me livrer mon Uber Eats.