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It seems so easy - just buy any coin now that did a -90% and you'll have at least a 10x in 2025. Am I missing something? Is it really that easy?
Are there prominent examples of coins that were 'safe bets' but didn't go back to their 2017 ATHs in 2021? Did most of the coins return to ATHs?

>> No.53235347

>>53235334
>Am I missing something?
quite a few brian cells apparently

>> No.53235423

pedophile spambot thread recognized by the use of the frog

>> No.53235441

>>53235347
It seems like almost all projects - bought during the last bear market allowed you to make some money. A relatively diversified portfolio of small coins bought over the course of 2023 should give good returns (obviously assumed another bull market takes place)

>> No.53235696

>>53235334
>Am I missing something? Is it really that easy?
yeh so long as that coin has a future.
I wouldnt bet on useless memecoins being worth anything in 2025

>> No.53235711

>>53235334
>any coin
no, not any coin. only coins with solid fundamentals. btc and eth are the safe x10 bet. other solid coins like avax will pump much more

>> No.53235883

>>53235334
I only buy AVAX, BNB, BTC and ETH. Some altcoins will pump 100x but it is risky with them, they might crab forever during bull market. Unless crypto as a whole collapses to zero, it will eventually go back to those prices.

>> No.53235994

You definitely don't want only x10 from the bottom of the bear. Even x30-50 is unacceptable desu. You might think i'm retarded but you'll actually seeth in the bull if your alts only pumped x30.

Average alt that doesn't lose it market dominance (ranking) will pump x25-40 bottom to peak, You want to find those who can outperform the market x3,x5 and even x10. Some examples: ETH flipping BTC will be x2 play, ATOM flipping DOGE will be x3 play, LINK moving from the top 22 to top above XRP will be a x10 play. So is AVAX moving from current position to BNB level will be x10 play.

There are very few very extremely ones who catch x30+ plays like FTM/MATIC last bull run (x1000+ each bottom to top), For something like this to happen you'll need to either catch a top 15 coin who challenge ETH position or bet on low cap (sub top 100) making it to the top 10.

>> No.53236161

>>53235711
>btc and eth
>10x
lel

>> No.53236222

>>53235994
Which ones are you betting on?

>> No.53236252

>>53235994
About that AVAX and BNB comparison.
Do you just theorycraft like a retard from a gacha game or do you actually use the product?
AVAX is a dogshit chain and it is a horrible experience to use it.
Only chains I can think of, that are worse than avax are CRO and KCC. Even the chinkchain BSC performs better than Turkshitchain.
>t.seasoned shitcoin flipper who has used almost all chains in existence.
I would be much more confident in taking advice from someone who actually has used the product instead of a theory crafting retard like you.

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>>53235334
Major happening! Military-fag thread was (((shut down))). Picrel. Proof: archive.is/mmoCT

>> No.53236491

>>53235334
You only need to buy Avax and wait

>> No.53237196

>>53236222
35% BTC/ETH and the rest on LINK/AVAX/ATOM (25%/25%/15%). These seem to me like the best market opportunities available (I'm a tech fag so at least from fundamental perspective). I've some eyes of couple of projects that haven't launched yet, I'll probably rotate some when they hit the market (assuming attractive price).

>> No.53237233

>>53235334
>Are there prominent examples of coins that were 'safe bets' but didn't go back to their 2017 ATHs in 2021?
a lot

>> No.53237347

https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171217/

out of the top ten at the peak of 2017 the coins that failed to reach a new ath in 2021 are

was #3 bitcoin cash (now #26)
was #4 xrp (now #6)
was #7 iota (now #68)
was #8 dash (now #67)
was #9 nem (now #96)

>> No.53237427

>>53237347
out of the other top 10
was #10 monero now #23 (briefly revisited its ath didnt go much beyond it)
was #5 litecoin now #11 (breifly revisited its ath didnt go much beyond it)
was #6 now #8 cardano (actually did a 3x over its 2017 ath, the only coin from the 2017 top ten to actually do well in 2021)

eth and btc are #1 and #2 and that hasnt changed. all the other top 10s rank down from where they were in 2017

>> No.53237456

>tfw no autistic ishtar gf to gift you with technology of writing
Why even live bros?

>> No.53237493

>>53235994
How much money have you actually made be honest. Don't actually answer the question - it's completely rhetorical and we all know the real answer

>> No.53237615
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2017 and 2021 peaks compared

>> No.53237628

>>53237615
every single coin in the top 26 is down in ranking from 2017 to 2021 peak except cardano which held its place at number 6

>> No.53237630

>>53237493
I had $300 on march 2020 bottom, Peaked around 250K (almost x1000 bottom to top), lost 50% trying leverage trading in the bear and then another -90% from sitting on my alts (2 months ago diversified some to BTC/ETH), Overall lost -95% from the top to bottom. I was retarded in the bear sure, but i know it's possible to see insane ROI from first hand, I know i can make it again and faster than even i might think.

If i do x1000 again i'll be able to retire rich, But x200 will suffice.

>> No.53237838

>>53237233
Show me some smartass

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>>53235334
>Am I missing something?
no
>Is It really that easy
yes but holding is the hard part. most people will be tempted to sell at 2x let alone 10x. inevitably they double their money then buy the top of something else and just lose it

>> No.53237905

>>53237347
>>53237427
Now what would've happened if I bought at the bottom? I would have made a profit on all of those

>> No.53237931

>>53235423
seething faggot kike detected

>> No.53237962

>>53237872
At 10x I'd just take out my initial and let it rip

>> No.53237994

>>53235441
I personally think its better to go in on something high quality, rather than quantity. Why buy a bad quality tshirt that'll tear in one year compared to a good quality one that'll last

My bets on gns. Dex narrative

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53239156

>>53237615

>> No.53239253

>>53235994
>>53237196
you could have just said nothing or "I am poor" cause that's what it comes down to.

>> No.53239905

>>53239156
I want to see a comparison between the bottom and the top, not the top and the top. Like a list where you can see how many of the top 100 coins did not reach another ATH 2021

>> No.53240042

>>53236252
In what way is AVAX dogshit?

>> No.53240044

>>53235334
this time will pass
window of opportunity this year
thats how you play crypto, but when it goes down and sell when it goes up
easier said then done especially with tax

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>>53235334
This is a fucking cool angle, I'm only fucked because most of the tokens I have were bought at near ATH, the only ones I actually bought in the bear market are RAIL and HBAR and its only because I just learned of them

>> No.53240555

>>53240086
And you've not been chilling with Indian desi smoking bettle dung? Come on fag, you can now privately interact with smart contracts and dApps at ease.

>> No.53240614

>>53235334
I'm not ready for this shit again... I've got my wallet hacked several. I've lost more money than FTX frauding the world

>> No.53241536

>>53235334
>It seems so easy - just buy any coin now that did a -90% and you'll have at least a 10x in 2025. Am I missing something?
yes. The majority of alts will never reach their ATH again. So if you buy a coin that is -90% from its ATH you should expect x5 as a maximum.

>> No.53241809

>>53240614
Pajeets keep wailing like pigs whereas a single decentralized identity across multiple chains could secure a lifetime's fortune.

>> No.53241902

>>53240614
I've never gotten my wallet hacked and I now use Ore ID for my onchain Identity management.

>> No.53241990

>>53235994
>It will happen the same way it did during the greatest money printing period in US history.
Bro...

>> No.53242046

>>53240614
Ore shill

>> No.53242086

>>53235334
Every single piece of furniture I own I got on the side of the road for free

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>>53239156
Wow, this got me thinking more clearly, thank you for your autism

>> No.53242808

>>53235334
Pick a coin that is being used for something (even if it's just smart contract deployment) and which wouldn't have an absurd market cap if it 10xed.
If they exist.

>> No.53243174

>>53235711
AVAX is a good coin to hoard right now, and also ALBT which is among the top gainers on the AVAX chain

>> No.53243280

>>53243174
Qrd on albt

>> No.53243415

>>53237493
I have roughly about 82k in crypto. 71k in crypto and the rest in nft like land and stuff. not everyone failed just because you did

>> No.53243523

>>53242808
ORE, HBAR, LUNR

>> No.53243612

>>53243174
It's up 45% already, so its doing well

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53244555

>>53235334
all you have to do to make it is literally just buy and stake AVAX and wait.

>> No.53245739

>>53235334
why would you assume shitcoins are going to pump ever again?

>> No.53246180

>>53237905
But when is the bottom? And which projects will actually increase in value, to the point where the profit gains are worthwhile?

>> No.53246379

>>53243415
What was it at the highest point?

>> No.53248041

>>53235334
>tfw no sumerian gf to carve cuneiform qt poems into clay stones with :'(

>> No.53248261

>>53246180
>when is the bottom?
It was 3 months ago.

>> No.53248451

>>53239156
Beautiful, anon. The only valuable post in all the forum.

>> No.53248630

>>53235334
aspie's feet

>> No.53248644

>>53235423
He's a midget with a skin condition not a frog

>> No.53248688

>>53235334
almost all got fucked.
buy btc, eth, ada, bnb, cro, doge. there are few others but i dont care to list them. most "eth killers" are just shit and will be forgotten.

>> No.53248722

>>53235334
if you have been around since the first coins you would know that 90% of them are vapor at this point. only certain shit coins make it to the next round and even then they become vapor

>> No.53248758

>>53239905
i can tell you that out of top 100 coins in 2017 only 5-10 made new ath that mattered. 10-20 got near last ath and others didint get back in the same levels

you could just go and see yor self you lazy bum

>> No.53248855

>>53235334
jibrel network. WHERE"S MY FUCKING MONEY TALAL?!?

jnt posters were on par with linkies throughout 2018. this was before the stable coin market had matured, and the initial idea was ahead of its time. was something like dai, but minting the stable coin required purchasing the minted amount with their token...but they failed to execute.

>> No.53248914

>>53248758
there's a bunch of old tokens I can't even find anymore on either coingecko or coinmarket cap. lot of dead shitcoins out there.
remember flo? its a whole ass blockchain that was like 10 years old! the ceo of overstock donated a bunch of money to the team last bear and they had big plans to revolutionize the internet. see if you can find it now...

>> No.53248939

>>53248914
how about ELC? (not eaglecoin...whatever the fuck that is) the OS blockchain project. can't find that anywhere now either. I didn't think coingecko and coinmarketcap cleaned out old coins from their catalogue, but I've been noticing a bunch lately that just aren't there anymore

>> No.53248989

so many coins have gone the way of the dodo bird and only their blockchain proves they existed. titty coin? yeah nobody remembers that

>> No.53249052

>>53248914
yes and your point was? i literally said there is around 15-30 top 100 coins that are still around in similiar levels they used to be. others are gone or just as good as gone.
there are sia, digibyte, ltc, monero and verge type of coins that are in the level that they got similiar kind of ath and then there are btc, doge, ada and bnb.

next season ada will gain most in the top 10. it will become top 3 but will it be xrp or eth type of deal is unkown. anyways it will be big. eth will linger in top 2 and 5 there might be some new big thing that gets over eth and one stable might go to top 2-3.
btc will go under 30% dominance.

doge will be there and might get to $3 but real gains are in ada tokens. there might be 5 to 10 cardano tokens in top 100 what make them all go over 1000x

>> No.53249078

>>53249052
my point is the same as yours. buying any bottomed out coin isn't a guaranteed gain next bullmarket. more likely you just hold the bag forever.

>> No.53249279
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>> No.53249411

>>53249279
spamming soulless 4th world shitjeet. white women dont want you and your own female find you disgusting. soulless tiny pp disgusting poopjeet

>> No.53249497

>>53235334

90% of coins go to 0.

You need to pick a coin that went down 90% AND will still be relevant in a couple of years.

If you don't pick eth and Bitcoin,
Something like Algorand might have a chance as long as binance dosen't die.
Algo was Binance answer to Solana.
But Solana is quite messed up because of FTX. Not sure what will happen to Solana now, it still has a lot of users and without Scam Bankman Fraud meddling in it maybe it can work better. It's still really cheap and fast.

>> No.53250184

>>53237838
XRP is the most glaring example

>> No.53250270

>>53239156
Wow that is sobering. Thanks for this anon.

>> No.53250548

>>53249052
Price prediction on ada?

>> No.53250595

well im stacking BIT because its the logical thing to do with BitDAO funding major projects that will shape the future of web3

>> No.53250840

Most coins never reach ATH again.

Even Cardano, which broke its ATH from the previous cycle, didn't surpass its value for the BTC pair.

You're best off either going with BTC/ETH or selling gains in altcoins as soon as you have any. You'll have some opportunity cost as it'll run more but it's better than risking holding the bag forever, which is very likely.

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>>53250840

>> No.53251042

>>53235334
The only area worth investing for long term hodl is PriFi. When regulations step in every jeet and Desu will know the importance of privacy and Privacy focused alts such as XMR.ZEC.RAIL,MINA and the likes will become rare gems.

>> No.53251065

>>53235711
you think bitcoins going to 150,000?

>> No.53251072

>>53237615
BITCONNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT

>> No.53251076

>>53235334
The problem is people did this last bear market with Dash, NEO and ARK, Tezos, EOS etc and how did that work out? lol

>> No.53251088

>>53240614
Explore privacy fren, hide your transactions details from the public and experience security. You can do better.

>> No.53251095

>>53242808
LOWCAPS

>> No.53251096

>>53239156
wow sia was around back then?

>> No.53251106

>>53245739
They are always the indicator to the beginning of bull season.

>> No.53251129

>>53249078
Apt. Going down -90% doesnt mean it must do a 100x in a bull season. Its usefulness will determine its success rate(for fundamentals) and so far only a few areas in the cryptospace have such power, they include web3,privacy and Defi.

>> No.53251166

>>53235711
lmao bitcoin wont ever see 60k ever again

>> No.53251183

>>53241536
or you buy an alt that dropped 90% and it will drop another 90% because 90% of alts will do that

>> No.53251792

>>53251076
You would have made a 3x anyway.

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53253003

>>53235347
Fpbp

>> No.53254825

>>53242216
sauce ?

>> No.53254960

>>53235334
A Railgun or Monero?
I'll go for monero

>> No.53254999

>>53251095
BNB Matic Shib Xrp Ore and EGLD. Anything else is a total waste of fucking pussies

>> No.53256381

>>53235883
AVAX has good partners like Allianceblock too that have a decent market cap and good use cases (bridging DeFi and TradFi) and shit like that.

>> No.53256957

>>53239156
Look at the top 10 market cap in 2017 and now compare the marketcap to 2021 and it would be in the top 40. The next bullrun will be even bigger than 2021 and you can expect to make killer gains if you hold any token which will reach a new ATH.

>> No.53257316

>>53239156
This is retarded. Even though a bunch of coins dropped in rank hard, their marketcaps were much higher. Coin rankings don't mean SHIT.

>> No.53257527

>>53239156
this is the post
never hold last gen altcoins

>> No.53258785

>>53254960
>Railgun
That's a big deal on chain privacy protocol where stakers will also be able to claim a % of Railgun generated fee.

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>fundamentals

>> No.53258928

>>53235334
>It seems so easy, just buy any dot-com company that did a -90% and you'll have at least a 10x in 2005
your primary mistake is blindly assuming that there MUST be another bull market where everything returns to at least the peak of the previous bull market. there's no law in finance, no sign or signal, no indication whatsoever that this is going to happen. it might, but more likely it will not. people much smarter than you and me are not dumping all their money into crypto for exactly that reason.

the dot-com bubble was a perfect example of this because all the same arguments would apply. "but the internet is the next big thing, it's going to revolutionize the entire world and everyone is gonna be on it in 10 years!". this turned out to be TRUE, but it still didn't give people their money back, or bring back the ridiculous valuations for the dot-com equivalent of shitcoins. you genuinely have to be pretty gullible and unaware of your surroundings to think it is going to be "that easy"

>> No.53258953

>>53256957
>The next bullrun will be even bigger than 2021
[citat-

>> No.53259428

>>53237347
What this guy said. Its def not a for sure play.
Btc,eth,link,doge are all easy 10x. If you dont have 400k right now in these ywn make it.

>> No.53259484

Hyper Glowie created OP pic