/smg/- Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.53207784]

Crab Rave edition
>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy2trws.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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[Anonymous No.53207820]

What a pretty thread

[Anonymous No.53207821]

WHOA BLACK BETTY

[Anonymous No.53207830]

first for fuck jannies

[Anonymous No.53207836]

Lads, what will pump today?

[Anonymous No.53207840]

Bondmarket shit the bed on powells remarks, yields rising and stocks following like little dogs. What a shitty swedish day

[Anonymous No.53207844]

>>53207836
The entire market

[Anonymous No.53207847]

fuck baggie

[Anonymous No.53207849]

come on lets get this rally started already. Retard bear faggots sold 2% yesterday because they were scared of powell talking about solar energy fucking LOL. Fucking pussy faggots

[Anonymous No.53207852]

>>53207836
We crab until CPI print then we will dump after that and crab some more until more major data comes out.

[Anonymous No.53207860]

>>53207836
bbby

[Anonymous No.53207859]

MSFT bros we eating?

[Anonymous No.53207861]

COIN Gongoup

[Anonymous No.53207892]

snib market.

[Anonymous No.53207904]

>>53207859
Nah. MSFT closes under 231 today.

[Anonymous No.53207919]

>>53207904
But why?

[Anonymous No.53207921]

Why are we pumping ?

[Anonymous No.53207923]

>>53207904
WRONG

[Anonymous No.53207932]

>>53207921
JPOW spoke earlier and basically didn't say anything bad so the market pumping is a sigh of relief.

[Anonymous No.53207935]

>>53207836
Nigeria is about to moon.
Buy NGE.

[Anonymous No.53207936]

Is it finally time to go short today? Looking at BBBY and COIN for example

[Anonymous No.53207942]

based breadtoaster
let us hope that namefag stays away

[Anonymous No.53207943]

>>53207921
MSFT AMZN GOOG and META are trending up intraday.

[Anonymous No.53207948]

Oatsbros, the time to slurp is nigh.

[Anonymous No.53207949]

Why is COIN going up

[Anonymous No.53207961]

SHOT CSCO DOUBLE TOP REJECTION SHORT CSCO DOUBLE TOP REJECTION

[Anonymous No.53207963]

>>53207923
>>53207919
Just watch.

[Anonymous No.53207966]

>>53207949
Cost cutting

[Anonymous No.53207970]

>incoming pump
everything I hold is red

[Anonymous No.53207980]

OOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.53207981]

Did JEROME SAMA said something ? I was eating

[Anonymous No.53207987]

>>53207981
absolutely nothing
pic not related

[Anonymous No.53207989]

>>53207970
good

[Anonymous No.53207996]

>>53207860
BBBY local minimum at around 10:30, be sure to buy

[Anonymous No.53207998]

>>53207981
The most important remarks were about the treasury not being able to expect any help on the bondmarket front. Bonds are fucked, 2y at 5% soon

[Anonymous No.53208001]

Costco Chads, ready to keep pumping?

[Anonymous No.53208002]

Yep, should have closed that short.
I suppose the "open and hold" strategy doesn't work on high-leverage, eh?

[Anonymous No.53208015]

HOLD THE LINE REDDIT

[Anonymous No.53208017]

To the newfag that called me a newfag, i was on /SMG/ trading memestocks like Sky People Fruit Juice while you were still listening to Linkin Park on Myspace and browsing WSB. Fuck you.

To the /biz/raeli that wanted to know more
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-skypeople-fruit-juice-spu-175205932.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/19/tiny-fruit-juice-company-soars-on-speculated-move-into-bitcoin-that-likely-isnt-real.html

https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/investing/skypeople-fruit-juice-china-crazy-stock/index.html

[Anonymous No.53208026]

>>53208002
idiot troll bot

[Anonymous No.53208035]

>>53208017

[Anonymous No.53208041]

BUY BUY BUY

[Anonymous No.53208059]

It's crabbing, but it's crabbing upwards.

[Anonymous No.53208060]

Ok, here's a freebie: Buy NEON before the google patent case decision. It'll be trading at $10+ next week.

[Anonymous No.53208062]

>>53208017
>I was on wsb in heckin 2017!
Go back.

[Anonymous No.53208065]

>>53207981
>he doesn't eating at his computer
ngmi

[Anonymous No.53208078]

>>53207921
why not?

[Anonymous No.53208079]

You will NEVER be a Touhou

[Anonymous No.53208083]

>>53208001
To those who refuse to believe me, Costco will dump hard within the next 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.53208081]

>>53207656
>what would you do?
Bro, remember that all this stock shit is just buying and selling. If you're too nervous about buying and selling stocks, etc, literally buy and sell anything. Anything you can get a deal on and flip, anything you can refurbish. I don't know how much your job pays but if you consider $50k a lot I'll assume you'd be able to double your monthly income flipping just a few items.
Over time you'll probably discover that the beauty of the NYSE is you can buy and sell without craigslist ads, and maybe you decide to study trading harder.
But you can get a lot of peace of mind right now having $50k behind you, and use that comfort to try to make money faster than you have been up to now, so that in two years you laugh about the time you thought $50k was a lot.

fuck all bakers
without bakers there'd be no thread splits

[Anonymous No.53208092]

https://www.forexlive.com/news/us-november-wholesale-sales-06-vs-05-expected-20230110/
>US November wholesale sales -0.6% vs +0.5% expected
>Prior was +0.4% (revised to 0.0%)
>That's a sharp miss in sales and fits in with the poor ISM manufacturing lately.

[Anonymous No.53208096]

Daily reminder Powell is fucking pissed about the market pumping and will surprise us with 75 benis points and a hawkish outlook. If you’re buying here you’re a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.53208110]

>>53208096
T-bills are free money right now.

[Anonymous No.53208117]

>>53208083
I will count 10 mins from your post then see.

[Anonymous No.53208119]

HOW CAN SHE POMP

[Anonymous No.53208131]

OUTTA MY WAY NATGAS FUCKING SHITS

[Anonymous No.53208132]

>>53208119
always hated these brown pepes
fuck your diversity

[Anonymous No.53208134]

>>53208083
Why?

[Anonymous No.53208139]

>>53208132
It's bobo the bear you dingus newfag

[Anonymous No.53208144]

Powell is pissed. The yields. The bonds. Dollar computer. He didn’t listen. Lol

[Anonymous No.53208145]

>>53208092
>October wholesale sales revised to 0.0% (everyone though was +0.4%)
>November wholesale sales -0.6% vs +0.5% expected
boy, this must mean that Q4 earnings were all great!
what's that? ISM services is in the worst contraction since covid?
what's that? PMI has been in contraction since November?
what's that? we overestimated job gains by 1 million to win midterm elections?
Q4 earnings are going to be fantastic!!!11one

[Anonymous No.53208148]

>>53208131
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53208154]

>>53208139
>trying to gaslight me
heh try harder

[Anonymous No.53208157]

>>53207784
We live in your minds rent free

[Anonymous No.53208164]

>>53208062
Holy fuck you're retarded. Read again, newfag.

>>53208035
>le heckin, Marvel screenshot.
KYS reddit.

[Anonymous No.53208168]

Time to short BYND?

[Anonymous No.53208170]

>>53208157
who are you and are you a shizophrenic that you speak in the third person about yourself

[Anonymous No.53208171]

>>53207892
Bobos and mumus will bet on tiny pumps and tiny dumps buy only snibs survive

[Anonymous No.53208178]

>>53208139
Lots of newfags and wannabes here.

[Anonymous No.53208177]

>>53208157

[Anonymous No.53208181]

What should I buy?

[Anonymous No.53208185]

>>53208171
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.53208188]

DXY computer. The yield curve. Bonds. The. Storm. Is. Coming

[Anonymous No.53208195]

i just cant see NASDAQ dump lower than 10200. Free money in tech.

[Anonymous No.53208199]

>>53208185
GET THAT BROWN SON OF A BITCH

[Anonymous No.53208198]

>>53208178
Did leddit dump a bunch of shitposters on us?

[Anonymous No.53208205]

>>53208181
A chastity belt

[Anonymous No.53208206]

>>53208181
Coke (KO) is down and performs well historically, so buy if you intend to hold long. HD is also a good buy at this price.

[Anonymous No.53208207]

>>53208026
Just an idiot

[Anonymous No.53208216]

uhm mom whats going on why are we dumping hard

[Anonymous No.53208225]

>>53208083
>Costco actually went up 2 dollars over the last 10 mins
Kek
Lel
Lmao

[Anonymous No.53208226]

>>53208216
The. Ship. Is. Sinking. Lol

[Anonymous No.53208227]

>>53207784

[Anonymous No.53208232]

>>53208206
>Coke (KO) is down
zoom out bub.

[Anonymous No.53208234]

>>53208206
>Coke (KO) is down and performs well historically
they are unironically getting raked over the coals, and the entire reason for them staying strong during this bear market is going out the window, with this FTC price probe
https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/ftc-probes-pepsi-coca-cola-over-price-discrimination-politico-2023-01-10/
they have been able to maintain / grow their margins, by raising prices to an insane degree, passing it off onto the consumer
this is now being called into question by the FTC
and I can get that you could argue "eh the FTC won't do anything"
but the market will be thinking in the back of its mind until its resolved the worst case scenario, so it will remain under pressure / unlikely to catch a bid until resolution

[Anonymous No.53208237]

MOOOOOOOOOOMMY I BOUGHT THE FUCKING YOP AGAIN
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.53208241]

>>53208134
>>53208148
>>53208185
>>53208117
Check costco. Never doubt me again.

[Anonymous No.53208245]

>>53208181
Man

[Anonymous No.53208252]

>>53208234
Short KO? Public opinion seems very harsh and there's many alternative healthy drinks flooding the market

[Anonymous No.53208257]

>>53208001
What a Chad

[Anonymous No.53208258]

>>53208234
It's all about the long game. If you think it'll go far lower, then by all means wait, but unless this incident kills coke, which I personally do not believe it will, then it will recover, and with beverage market growth still on the rise and coke owning nearly half of the market share, they'll get back up and keep the trend up long term.

I mean I wouldn't put ALL my money in KO, but I keep it in my portfolio right next to PEP and KDP.

[Anonymous No.53208261]

>>53208195
>>53208216
>>53208237
KEK

[Anonymous No.53208266]

>>53208241
Damn, down 0.25%, what magic is this?

[Anonymous No.53208275]

>>53208241
>check costco after this post
>my Day's P&L is still $1.31 per share
>my Open P&L is still $16.43 per share

If that was just to "make you look!" Then you got me, but otherwise, take your medication.

[Anonymous No.53208280]

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL

[Anonymous No.53208285]

>>53208198
Seems that way

[Anonymous No.53208293]

WHAT WAS THAT SHOULD I SELLWHAT HAPPEND? PLEASE ANSWER IM DOWN 20% ON MY LEVERAGE NASDAQ SHORT ALREADY

[Anonymous No.53208300]

>>53208293
ngmi

[Anonymous No.53208301]

>>53208252
I wouldn't short KO either, as even if they did fall, it would be so small - like 10% max
everyone is looking to rotate into value / companies that have good free cash flow and actually make and sell products going into the recession
people will continue to buy KO products and KO stock
I don't think that there is much room for growth and I don't think there is much room for decay
I would be extremely shocked if KO passed either $65 to the upside or $57 to the downside
I think there are much better opportunities in the market, both long and short, than to tie up capital for small moves in KO

[Anonymous No.53208305]

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[Anonymous No.53208307]

*snibs*
heh

[Anonymous No.53208308]

>Whole beverage market is down

Why?

Oh well, good time to buy

[Anonymous No.53208312]

i sell and it go green FUCK THIS SHIT MAN
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[Anonymous No.53208313]

>>53208266
It's not magic. It's skill.
>>53207996
Time to buy BBBY

[Anonymous No.53208315]

10 yr

[Anonymous No.53208316]

>>53208293
HOLD BULLBRO AND WAIT FOR A MINI REVERSAL

[Anonymous No.53208317]

>>53208308
see
>>53208234
FTC is probing their (ridiculously high) prices

[Anonymous No.53208319]

>>53208293
snibbs decided to go in the other direction for awhile.

[Anonymous No.53208320]

>>53208252
>healthy drinks flooding the market
Like what? Water? So called ”healthy drinks” are ridiculously expensive

[Anonymous No.53208321]

>>53208258
Being a politically dependent company that is losing market share due to short sighted political foreign trade decisions, coke might lose market share it held since 1989

[Anonymous No.53208326]

Should I call it a day?

[Anonymous No.53208327]

new supervariant

[Anonymous No.53208330]

>>53208293
You shorted on Nasdaq100s day low?

[Anonymous No.53208331]

Buying COIN under $40 is a steal. Will hit 3 digits easily in the near future. Risk/reward is great. Too bad the market is too stupid to realize it (yet)

[Anonymous No.53208336]

>>53208065
Based. Got some eggs and black pepper right now in front of my computer.

[Anonymous No.53208338]

>>53208326
Literally just wait until the number stops going up and bail.

[Anonymous No.53208340]

>>53208312
Bobo status: snibbed

[Anonymous No.53208344]

>>53208331
>COIN
Better get some ARKK too to round out the tard profile.

[Anonymous No.53208346]

>>53208195
>>53208216
>>53208237
>>53208293
>>53208312
Nigga whats your next move so i can do reverse and make bank. This dude manage to call every Top and Bottom.

[Anonymous No.53208353]

>>53208301
>people will continue to buy KO products

This. But KO is still one of the best performing stocks I've ever owned, you just need to be patient as it slowly sails up. KO and MCD are the kind of stocks where I think less of people if they're not in their portfolios.

[Anonymous No.53208355]

>>53208321
Interesting theory, and perhaps even true, but in the long term, I still believe my shareholder value will increase over the next 5-6 years, so I'll hold, may even buy some more while it's down.
And if it DOES lose market share, then my PEP and KDP will increase. I win either way.

[Anonymous No.53208362]

>>53208336
>and black pepper
Who the fuck mentions the seasonings?
Are you black? Is that why there's all these brown minority pepes in every thread?
Are nergoes and miscellaneous browns taking over this board?

[Anonymous No.53208365]

annddddd it's gone

[Anonymous No.53208367]

Why didn't I sell these yesterday, I was up so much more $14.5 calls
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53208373]

damn now im glad i panic zeld

[Anonymous No.53208377]

>>53208331
in February 2022, Coinbase announced that they were going to hire 2,000 employees
in June, they reversed course, and fired 1100 employees for the "crypto winter"
today, they fired another 950 employees
they have now fired more employees 2,050 than they had initially planned on hiring
there are clearly big issues in coinbase, where they see the need to do these huge cuts / reversal of decision making to this degree
I think that it is oversold, as it's the main vehicle for funds / institutions to short digital assets, as they don't want to actually touch BTC / ETH
but I think that it is going lower, as the recession hits, as even less activity happens on their platform

[Anonymous No.53208381]

No deposits, no loans, no deals!

[Anonymous No.53208384]

>>53208362
Because its not just plain eggs which taste boring and bland. If i said just eggs id be lying. I dont want to lie to my smg friends.

[Anonymous No.53208390]

>>53208344
Seething boomercuck. Idgaf about ARKK

[Anonymous No.53208392]

imagine that you're on a sinking cruise ship in the Atlantic ocean
everyone knows that the ship is sinking
everyone panics and rushes to the top deck
the ship has filled up with water only on the left side,
which makes the ship tilt to an extreme degree
everyone visually sees the tilt above deck, making them panic more
a hatch breaks below deck, allowing water to flood into the right side
the ship now is filled with water on both sides below deck
it is no longer tilted - the ship is completely flat
everyone on the top deck celebrates - the ship is no longer sinking!
they take off their life jackets, and return to their cabins to go to sleep
the ship sinks
everyone who returned to their cabins dies

this is the current state of the market, with the weak data published last week filling the "unbalanced side"
we are no longer ‘tilting’
but we are still ‘sinking’
there is still ‘water pouring in below decks’
it is just harder to see
do not celebrate that the ship is now ‘flat’,
when the ship is ‘flat’ for bad, rapidly weakening economy reasons
>Q4 ’22 & Q1 ‘23earnings
>5.4% terminal rate
>all time high debt
>layoffs exponentially increasing
>loan delinquencies sharply rising
>economic activity falling off a cliff
>”Business activity, orders measures drop most since April 2020”
>orders measures drop most since April 2020
>orders measures drop most since April 2020
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-06/us-services-gauge-shrinks-unexpectedly-in-worst-slide-since-2020
https://archive.. ph/PdYbQ
we are still taking on water
do not return to your cabin
do not allow funds to use you as exit liquidity before the next leg down
>HURRAY, THE SHIP IS FLAT!!!
>IT’S NO LONGER SINKING!!!
>I’M RETURNING TO MY ROOM TO GO TO SLEEP!!!
don’t be that guy /smg/
don’t be a fucking retard
don’t follow the 1st class passengers back to their cabins
just because the ship is flat doesn’t mean it isn’t taking on water.

We. Are. Sinking.

[Anonymous No.53208395]

>>53208384
hey that looks like an interesting anime

[Anonymous No.53208402]

>crab niggas be like

[Anonymous No.53208410]

>>53208234
KO is always getting investigated for this or that because its at heart using advertising to sell disgustingly sweet syrup.

>>53208321
>short sighted political foreign trade decisions

Don't see it desu. China didn't acquire a taste for coke and Russia was always a Pepsi nation. The big risk is instead in Latin America markets where the pink wave might (MIGHT) lead to more interest in stopping the situation where people drink it instead of water.

[Anonymous No.53208409]

>>53208377
> today, they fired another 950 employees
Good. I’m much less worried about COIN now.

[Anonymous No.53208413]

>>53208392
neat that you are pasta'ing my post
we got even more data today showing that the water is flooding in below decks
>>53208092
>US November wholesale sales -0.6% vs +0.5% expected
>Prior was +0.4% (revised to 0.0%)

[Anonymous No.53208415]

>>53208355
If you are targeting the broader soft drink industry and diversify, that is something different than going all in coke, allthough going for companies in the low budget sector might be more worthwhile as they are more likely to expend into market segments that went for higher priced soft drinks in the past, which leads to companies like coke and pepsi having to expand their marketing efforts

[Anonymous No.53208416]

PUSH ME TO THE EDGE

[Anonymous No.53208418]

STOP FUCKING SELLING

[Anonymous No.53208420]

>>53208316
Top kek

[Anonymous No.53208431]

>>53208390
>the point
>
>
>
>your head
Feel free to eat all the shit you want bub.

[Anonymous No.53208434]

>>53208384
whats in her mouth?

[Anonymous No.53208435]

There is actually, literally, unironically zero new fucking information. No one at the central bankers meeting even said anything remotely related to the state of the US economy. And bears will somehow spin this fucking dump as rational. Fuck this shit, over a fucking year of ridiculous selling.

[Anonymous No.53208440]

>>53208413
I don't think the market grasps how bad that decline actually is.

Slowing. Economic. Activity. Lol

[Anonymous No.53208446]

why are eggs so fucking expensive right now?

[Anonymous No.53208449]

>no news nigger seething
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.53208451]

I bought in again.

[Anonymous No.53208452]

>>53208446
ukraine

[Anonymous No.53208456]

>>53208377
Cutting costs now makes sense and you are largely correct. But when the market pessimism overturns and it will (sooner than everyone thinks) then you should be positioned already. Crypto is already starting to recover, soon COIN will follow, especially if the FED becomes less hawkish. Best to have some skin in the game already.

[Anonymous No.53208465]

>>53208410
latin america is the land of the bribes, more so with leftist state fetishists. Whoever gives lula and company more favors gets the deals

[Anonymous No.53208467]

Damn plus500 charges a lot to keep positions open

[Anonymous No.53208469]

>>53208434
A plastic tube.

[Anonymous No.53208472]

>>53208431
You had no point, strawman

[Jealous No.53208476]

salt fu

[Anonymous No.53208481]

>>53208435
You have been posting the same shit for months now with absolutely zero self reflection. I thank God he made people like you to be on the other side of my trades.

[Anonymous No.53208480]

>>53208469
why

[Anonymous No.53208482]

I sold boil for a 2k loss. I made 2k last week. Even stevens

[Anonymous No.53208484]

>>53208465
>Whoever gives lula and company more favors gets the deals
This. Thats how its always been in south america. There is no agenda or ideology. Just who bribes whom.
>>53208480
You will have to look it up fren.

[Anonymous No.53208490]

>>53208449
The only amazing thing is that day after day, week after week and month after month this anon still thinks news is the main thing driving the market.

[Anonymous No.53208495]

>>53208440
>I don't think the market grasps how bad that decline actually is.
The market does grasp it - but is choosing to still believe "bad news is good news!!!"
It is why we rallied upon
>pic related
the market saw this data published Friday and thought
"holy shit!! the economy is collapsing! this is SUPER bullish, as it means the Fed will have to pivot soon!"
when in reality it's
>holy shit
>the economy is collapsing
>the Fed is tightening, and will be forced to keep rates higher for longer, in a collapsing economy
What I think the market doesn't grasp is how badly the Fed and its members do not want to repeat the 1970s era inflation
They are still relying on discredited shit like the Phillips curve
They do not want to cut prematurely, and have inflation rise up again, and then become entrenched in expectations
The market still thinks they will cut prematurely.. the market is delusional, and wrong

[Anonymous No.53208496]

>>53208435
sub text. Central Bank reps have put their foot on the ground toward other political institutions telling them that they can emit debt, but they cant expect a buyer of last resort this time around

[Anonymous No.53208497]

>>53208482
thanks for playing. the house always wins. at least with real casinos you get comps

[Anonymous No.53208498]

Need trashdaq to go to 10700 to break even heeeeeeeere we gooooo

[Anonymous No.53208502]

>>53208377
Layoffs are bullish. Staff costs is probably the biggest overhead.

Stocks are forward looking.

[Anonymous No.53208504]

>>53208472
>strawman
Are you legit retarded? is english not your first language, because that's understandable I guess.

[Anonymous No.53208507]

>>53208495
forgot pic sorry

[Anonymous No.53208510]

Do i eat the frozen pizza in my oven or do i just chill it this cold is killing me and i dont wanna eat anything.

[Anonymous No.53208517]

First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they exile you.
Then they laugh at Charlie Munger.
Then they take everything you have.
Then you win.

[Anonymous No.53208519]

>>53208502
>Layoffs are bullish. Staff costs is probably the biggest overhead.
they are short term bullish, long term bearish
there is a reason why firms cut staff.. because they aren't making money / the economic climate is dogshit
celebrating layoffs as bullish is like celebrating chemotherapy - you still have cancer, cancer that required you to receive chemo

[Anonymous No.53208521]

>>53208481
Oh look once again you have quite literally nothing to contribute. You can't even point at a tangible reason for the ENTIRE MARKET selling off in unison on NO INFORMATION. Faggot ass bears act like they know what's going on but can't even rationalize it. Lmao.

>>53208490
>>53208449
The actual odd thing is that you act like there's only one person wondering why billions of dollars get wiped out at the exact same moment when there's no information that anyone can point to. Almost like you're either bots or just fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.53208523]

>>53208495
great take. Powell is pissed about the market pumping too.

[Anonymous No.53208525]

>>53208435
>nooo my SOXL bags they should be going up and up why why why
kys lmao

[Anonymous No.53208528]

>>53208510
if you cant even cook your own meal investing is not for you

[Anonymous No.53208535]

>>53208495
public inflation expectation fell again. now straight 5.

[Anonymous No.53208536]

50% retracement tagged to the cent. Onward to 400 now

[Anonymous No.53208542]

BULLBROS THEY TRIED TO BURRY US.....

[Anonymous No.53208546]

i short every company that has doorbells in their commercials

[Anonymous No.53208550]

>>53208510
Pizza? More like Pissa. Eat something with more protein chud

[Anonymous No.53208558]

the pump will continue until morale improves

[Anonymous No.53208563]

>>53208528
Feel like I have no energy and I get frozen shit on days im sick. Get fucked, friend. Just for that im gonna do some pushups

[Anonymous No.53208570]

is there an ETF that tracks tbills?

[Anonymous No.53208572]

>>53208563
Don’t do pushups if you feel sick

[Anonymous No.53208573]

>>53208521
Rationalize that which is mostly governed by emotions.
>Still doesn't understand

[Anonymous No.53208576]

>>53208546
How is it going? Ia it profitable?

[Anonymous No.53208578]

>>53208435
It isn't even a dump m8. It is reversion to the mean from the previous last 2 weeks. You are literally right there has been no news so the equilibrium price mechanism is showing the previous 2 weeks were correct about the price. Friday and yesterdays pump were the standard overshoot of the equilibrium price and now we are seeing the drop that will likely drop below the equilibrium price and then we will overshoot it back on the way up. That is just how these things work. Mean reversion is axiom of the market and if you don't believe it it is what many liquidity providing trading algorithms and arbitrage bots are based on. So in the modern computerized markets mean reversion is a fact.

[Anonymous No.53208582]

>>53208570
Yeah short term bond etfs. But dont buy an etf for bonds, its the midwit thing.

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.53208583]

>>53208570
there are a bunch of them

[Anonymous No.53208588]

>>53208521
>No tangible reeason.
Hey nigger have you heard of this thing called the fed?

[Anonymous No.53208592]

>dump
not even worthy of pink wojaks

[Anonymous No.53208595]

>>53208570
Yea it's called a savings account LUL

[Anonymous No.53208599]

>>53208582
just looking for somewhere to park my cash. spaxx has a 7 day yield of 3something

[Anonymous No.53208603]

>>53208535
they did.. but that's not what we're talking about
we're talking about if the Fed were to cut rates / pivot prematurely, it would make inflation rise up again rapidly - especially in energy and food
if this were to happen, and inflation surged higher again, it would entrench expectations for higher inflation / make the surveys that the Fed cares about move in the wrong direction
it would make the Fed's job much more difficult, if people think that the Fed failed in the 1st round, and that the Fed won't be able to bring inflation down
this is their biggest fear, and why they will not cut / pivot prematurely
also, fun unrelated fact, in the most recent survey although the 1yr expectations moved down from 5.2% to 5.0% the 3 year expectations remained flat at 3%, and long term inflation expectations 5 years moved up from 2.3% to 2.4%

[Anonymous No.53208605]

>>53208570
tlt for longterm shy for short term

[Anonymous No.53208608]

>>53208592
how can we be crabbing on no news...

[Anonymous No.53208609]

>>53208599
Just buy the t bills yourself and keep the expense fees to yourself.

[Anonymous No.53208620]

THAANKK YYUOO COME AGAIN
THAANKK YYUOO COME AGAIN
THAANKK YYUOO COME AGAIN
THAANKK YYUOO COME AGAIN
THAANKK YYUOO COME AGAIN

[Anonymous No.53208626]

Based

[Anonymous No.53208636]

>>53208578
Finally someone with a sensible take instead of just "lol two more weeks!" I'm just so fucking ready for bears to be proven wrong after over a year of absurd selling. No one wants to admit that it's most likely just a few whales with billions of dollars getting greedy with leveraged index shorting. Everyone will probably "realize" that in 2025 but bears will act like they weren't almost 100% wrong the whole time.

>>53208588
Oh you mean the organization that bears said was full of liars until they could spin the narrative in their favor? The organization that said unequivocally "we won't hike rates in 2022"?

>>53208603
>it would make inflation rise up again rapidly
Sounds like gay bear speculation to me

[Anonymous No.53208642]

>>53208626
lol
if this bill passed, or showed even the smallest signs of even the smallest chance in hell of passing, we would see a debt market sell off so severe and swift that it would equate to circuit breakers 3 days in a row
we saw what happened in the UK when they tried to cut taxes - entire international market said "okay so you're going to default on your bonds then?" and almost caused another global financial crisis

[Anonymous No.53208651]

>>53208642

[Anonymous No.53208656]

>>53208642
Good
Rip off the bandaid

[Anonymous No.53208673]

>>53208642
yes please

[Anonymous No.53208674]

>>53208636
>[cutting rates prematurely] would make inflation rise up again rapidly
>Sounds like gay bear speculation to me
sounds like someone doesn't know their 1970s inflation era history

[Anonymous No.53208675]

>>53208626
The republicucks are never based, ever.

[Anonymous No.53208685]

>Macron plans to overhaul pension system
Lmao frogs gonna chimp out again.

[Anonymous No.53208687]

>>53208626
good. taxation is theft

[Anonymous No.53208697]

>>53208642
If they elininated income tax they’d raise the other taxes?

[Anonymous No.53208696]

>>53208603
energy fell by about 50%, food, okay the inflation is catching up on it. But overall the fed brought inflation down and the market is expecting open ended rate hikes until target is reached. Currently the marketsees the fed pussy footing again with reduced rate hikes and of course it will rally on it

[Anonymous No.53208702]

>>53208685
That will be fun, their bakeries are already closing due to energy costs

[Anonymous No.53208716]

>>53208702
They’ll just throw money at the bakeries. They’ll have to find a long term solution though

[Anonymous No.53208718]

>>53208592
someone just color this shit yellow lmao

[Anonymous No.53208719]

>>53208697
Yeah. Too many people pay little in income tax. So they’ll want an excuse for a federal VAT. Don’t worry, the income tax will make a comeback later.

[Anonymous No.53208720]

>>53208696
>energy
>food
the Fed (literally) doesn't care about energy and food
the Fed cares about core PCE, services inflation, wage inflation, inflation expectations, which are all remaining stubbornly sticky

[Anonymous No.53208727]

There's at least one person here who is holding both SOXL and BOIL bags.

[Anonymous No.53208729]

>>53208702
All things said i think macron is right. The frogs cant retire at 62 when everyone is living so much longer now. Its like a multibillion deficient every year for them because of all the pensions. I wonder if he will be able to do it this time. Lots changed since 2018.

[Anonymous No.53208730]

>>53208702
Well the system does need an overhaul. Pensions in general are a suckers game.

[Anonymous No.53208740]

>>53208674
>Post-2000s America is the 70s
Lmao this is the kind of shit that really cracks me up. Really demonstrates how fucking ignorant bears are.

>>53208720
"Stubbornly sticky" is the most corporate newspeak jargon. Cannot fucking wait until you bandwagoning clowns get rekt.

[Anonymous No.53208743]

>>53208716
A final solution?

[Anonymous No.53208753]

>>53208729
Just raise contributions to balance it
>>53208730
Just don't reform ir and let it crash bro

[Anonymous No.53208758]

>>53208743
one that involves ovens and gas

[Anonymous No.53208765]

>>53208720
you brought it up. my point is cb policies are working, market is recognizing it and taunting the monetary institutions by rallying on "pivots" like reduced hikes below inflation.
pce will remain at sticky inflation as long as the economy roars, that is how it is, especially in a market that needs work force in a declining active aging demographic environment

[Anonymous No.53208768]

>>53208743
Too many baguettes, too few ovens

[Anonymous No.53208771]

Anyone buying anything?

[Anonymous No.53208787]

>>53208771
shorted tlt when powell made his remarks

[Anonymous No.53208788]

PRE needs to come back up

[Anonymous No.53208789]

>>53208740
I can't even tell you how many times I have heard a Fed president / governor / voting member / Powell himself have gone through this history of the 1970s, and the risks of cutting prematurely
More than 50 times in the last year
The Fed is very, very much aware of this risk, and does not want to repeat 1970s mistakes
You can argue all you want
>yeah, well, this economic climate is different than the 1970s!
>if the Fed were to cut prematurely, it wouldn't be a big deal like the 1970s!
>cutting prematurely wouldn't make inflation rise up again!
but it's not going to convince the Fed - lol
the Fed is not going to risk repeating the 1970s
they have given very clear forward guidance, for over 2 years
>inb4 "yeah well, their forward guidance is a lie!!"

[Anonymous No.53208795]

My 34 year coworker was just found unresponsive.

[Anonymous No.53208799]

>this BTI dip
Slurping, but what happened over there in bongland?

[Anonymous No.53208800]

>>53208771
Mining, agribusiness

[Anonymous No.53208804]

>>53208795
Did he tackle someone?

[Anonymous No.53208806]

>>53208795
is he hot?

[Anonymous No.53208811]

>>53208795
and yet MRNA is pumping, fuck this gay earth

[Anonymous No.53208813]

I think it’s funny how the Fed was retarded enough to allow rampant inflation for 3 years but people think they can handle fixing it.
Institutions have been controlled by nepotism for ages. Non of the Fed was chosen because of their talents in economics.

[Anonymous No.53208816]

I really hope cpi comes in hot, and shows an uptick in inflation

[Anonymous No.53208817]

>>53208795
I've never seen this anime, is it any good?

[Anonymous No.53208818]

>>53208811
Assisted suicide is big business

[Anonymous No.53208821]

>>53208771
I might buy some chipotle for dinner

[Anonymous No.53208828]

>>53208795
What did you do, anon? You can't just play with the normies as you see fit, they sometimes break.

[Anonymous No.53208835]

>>53208816
Not yet

[Anonymous No.53208836]

>>53208795
Climate change takes another one.

[Anonymous No.53208844]

I took Vyvanse after getting no sleep last night and I think my heart is gonna explode boys

Give me a trade setup that my family will see in the green when they find my corpse

[Anonymous No.53208850]

>>53208835
yields are going up so evidently someone knows something

[Anonymous No.53208851]

SIRS, DO NOT INVEST IN DIVIDEND

[Anonymous No.53208854]

>>53208753
>Just raise contributions to balance it
I dont the workers contribute to it at all. Its entirely funded by the government.

[Anonymous No.53208857]

>>53208740
Its funny that you are losing so much money that you come here every day to seethe about no news, but any time an anon tries to help your retarded ass understand whats going on you get all arrogant and mock them as if line is still going up circa 2021.

[Anonymous No.53208859]

>>53208060
thanks, just bought 10k

[Anonymous No.53208864]

>>53208789
It's hilarious to me when you guys try to sound so confident about what the Fed will do, after the only thing they've done consistently is completely flip flop on policy at the last minute. Bears are still ignoring the complete memoryholing of "no rate hikes in 2022"

[Anonymous No.53208865]

>>53208851
I didn’t know they invested in anything other than (scam) call centers

[Anonymous No.53208867]

>>53208850
China reopened so inflation is about to shit its parts

[Anonymous No.53208868]

BBBY earnings fall summary
>Net sales crashed 33% from the prior year.
>Comparable digital sales fell a whopping 33%.
>Bed Bath & Beyond banner comparable sales plunged 34%.
>BuyBuyBaby banner comparable sales tanked in the "low 20" percentage area.
>Adjusted operating loss of $225 million.
>Only $153.1 million in cash on the balance sheet.
>150 stores still expected to be closed.

[Anonymous No.53208870]

Incredibly crabbish day

[Anonymous No.53208871]

>>53208816
If CPI falls to 6.5% Powell is dropping rates to zero and printing.
(Bill actually believe this.)

[Anonymous No.53208876]

>>53208857
the market is supposed to be efficient so the news of the Fed's tightening should have been priced in immediately the moment it was announced. Everything after that is fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.53208878]

>>53208857
>He thinks I'm selling
lmao! So many people here are shortsighted 14 year olds with time horizons of like ten days, it's insane

[Anonymous No.53208877]

>>53208867
china inflation is up

[Anonymous No.53208880]

>>53208642
whats the downside exactly?

[Anonymous No.53208882]

>>53208854
Wtf

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.53208884]

New Thread
>>53207719
>>53207719
>>53207719
>>53207719

No need to thank me, just doing my part to help the continuity of the general.

[Anonymous No.53208888]

>>53208871
6.5% yoy is the expectation, so if it's above that, or if it's above 7.1% which was the previous month I expect a stinky dump. Last month also had a downtick in inflation and yet the market closed flat. I don't bulls have a lot of room left desu

[Anonymous No.53208891]

>>53208884
thank you baggie, you are an inspiration

[Anonymous No.53208895]

>>53208877
Yes but it takes sometime to cross the pacific

[Anonymous No.53208897]

>>53208884
dude you are such a loser

[Anonymous No.53208901]

>>53208864
>after the only thing they've done consistently is completely flip flop on policy at the last minute
what in the hell are you talking about
this couldn't be more wrong
in the last 2 years, literally, only ONCE, has the Fed not done what they said they were going to do
and even during that one time, they still told the market what they were going to do
CPI came out, and they leaked to Timiraos 1 day before their decision that they were going to do 75 instead of 50
the Fed has followed their word, stuck to their forward guidance to a T
and the single time, out of all of these decisions made over the last 2 years, that they didn't do what they said explicitly they were going to do due to the CPI coming out so close to the meeting, they still leaked the information to Timiraos and gave the market accurate forward guidance
>Bears are still ignoring the complete memoryholing of "no rate hikes in 2022"
what the fuck are you talking about
this was never promised, by anyone

[Anonymous No.53208904]

>>53208871

[Anonymous No.53208906]

>>53208884
Thank you Baggie, I inspire to be just like you.

[Anonymous No.53208908]

>>53208882
Pensions usually are funded by gov i think. Not sure how frances works exactly but yeah federal tax money is going to public workers who all riot and vote for their benefits to increase. Same garbage we have in america but the pensions here arent as big as france is i think.

[Anonymous No.53208909]

>>53208884
if i ever see you at mohegan i'm going to go up to you and shake your hand. however unbeknownst to you my hand will have feces on it.

[Anonymous No.53208923]

>>53208901
>this was never promised, by anyone
Begone, absolute fucking retard

[Anonymous No.53208924]

>>53208884
Baggie, you half assing piece of shit, don't make me call smenim and have him geo ban you

[Anonymous No.53208925]

>>53208909
>my hand will have feces on it.
Based mall rat

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.53208928]

>>53208897
actually it turns out i'm an inspiration to people around the world, clearly depicted here >>53208897 and >>53208906

[Anonymous No.53208930]

>>53208880
if we were to no longer have an income tax, there would be serious (aka, it would be impossible) doubts on the ability for the US to repay bonds that are owed
there would be great doubt in the ability of the US to repay a bond 10 years from now for example, if we are not paying income taxes
50% of federal revenue comes from income taxes
so to remove income tax would be essentially saying
>we are not going to pay any of you back
which is what happened in the UK, and why their bonds had such a severe sell off that it almost made their pension funds (and entire banking system) collapse, before their central bank intervened and ousted Truss

[Anonymous No.53208936]

>>53208923
Show me
Show me where someone promised this
Show me an article, a speech, even by a minor non-voting Fed member
This was never said
You are delusional and schizophrenic
Show me even ONE time where this was promised, and I'll admit I'm wrong
>pro-tip: you can't, because it was never promised, and you will never post anything, never post any proof of your claim, but will continue to parrot it, even though it false

[Anonymous No.53208938]

>>53208878
Ive never known someone seethe so much about seeing their poorfolio down a few hundred bucks. Your too emotional for this game anon.

[Anonymous No.53208940]

>>53208928
>clearly depicted here
>quotes me calling him a loser

[Anonymous No.53208947]

>>53208925

[Anonymous No.53208954]

>>53208923
It was clear that 2022 is going to be the rate hike year.

[Anonymous No.53208956]

>+-0%

[Anonymous No.53208964]

>>53208729
Frenchfags, Italicucks and Greecefucks that are ducling the rest of the Eurozone need to fuck off. Western Europe has to work til 70 while they complain about 63..disgusting EU that lets them get away with daylight robbery.

[Anonymous No.53208967]

Im down like 10% on my DAX shorts

When is this shitcoin Dumping. This crab pumping is killing my position

[Anonymous No.53208974]

>>53208817
Underrated

[Anonymous No.53208985]

>>53208878
If you are so smart why are you losing money?

[Anonymous No.53208987]

>>53208729
>i think macron is right
>The frogs cant retire at 62
The French are whiny pricks that deliberately close half of their businesses on the weekends and protest over every faggot issue under the sun.

[Anonymous No.53208989]

>>53208381

[Anonymous No.53208994]

Where were you when you found out JPow is actually Jecht; and therefore Sin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fp81GzKarQ
>>53208954
What's 2023 going to be?
Year of the Pivot?
It is a water rabbit year. As such, fluid will play a role in the years events. "fluid" and "liquid" are similar words. Maybe we have liquidity events?

[Anonymous No.53209003]

>>53208495
I for one believe that the notion of rate cuts for the remainder of this decade is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.53209012]

>>53208507
Also, there's only so much coffee that one person can drink on average.

[Anonymous No.53209050]

>>53208936
You're either a zogbot or so incredibly new that you don't remember the countless times it was discussed here. The information is all buried now but I expect that you know that. Maybe there's someone here who's saved some articles but other than that I just have my memory, and I won't be gaslit by faggot ass bears

>>53208985
I legitimately have not lost any money. The way you guys think about the market really blows my mind sometimes.

[Anonymous No.53209058]

YANG is doing very little for a 3x ETF

[Anonymous No.53209068]

>>53209012
>Also, there's only so much coffee that one person can drink on average
I have ~3 cups of black coffee @ market opening. I then switch over to orange Prime, because it's delicious.
I stack ephedrine and l-theanine with the coffee, as well. Makes your brain feel like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwE2k0HMDfo

[Anonymous No.53209083]

>>53209050
>The information is all buried now
lmao
you're retarded
you tried to find it, and couldn't
because it doesn't exist
no one, and I mean no one, no voting member, no non-voting member, no retired member, nobody ever
>promised that there would be no rate hikes in 2022
never
>but other than that I just have my memory
lmao. your memory is wrong. you are retarded.
I look forward to continuing to see your posts over the coming weeks and months going
>WHY IS THE MARKET DUMPING FOR NO GOD DAMN REASON
>EVERYTHING IS DUMPING IN UNISON AND NO BEAR CAN EXPLAIN WHY
as you have been for many many months already

[Anonymous No.53209088]

just sold a thrifted mouse for $100, and all my stocks are green
what a day

[Anonymous No.53209091]

>>53209068
...and you could quit at any time I presume.

[Anonymous No.53209092]

>>53208446
Bird flu in the USA killed all the chickens

[Anonymous No.53209105]

I should've called it a day, went from being up 200 to being down 200. FUCK ME

[Anonymous No.53209111]

>>53209058
It's down like 75% in three months.

[Anonymous No.53209113]

>>53209058
>>53209111
>betting against China

[Anonymous No.53209115]

Market is calling the feds bluff. They will pause and pivot by mid year. SPX 5000 EOY

[Anonymous No.53209120]

>>53209091
>...and you could quit at any time I presume.
Yes.
If I can quit a 15 year cigarette addiction, I can quit anything.

[Anonymous No.53209125]

>>53209092
it has to be some man made bird flu. I just don't buy that birds get sick and die all of a sudden without (((someone))) experimenting with airborne viruses

[Anonymous No.53209128]

>>53209083
Yeah see, it's really disturbing to me that you idiots legitimately have no issue with the market tanking over and over and over again while simultaneously claiming that it's dumping because the markets are efficient and just pricing in a mega recession or some shit. Which is it?? >>53208876 is right, if the market wasn't just schizo algorithms cockfighting we should have seen an incredible dump as soon as everyone realized that hikes were in fact on the table in 2022.

[Anonymous No.53209129]

Lumber is getting near 6 year lows.

[Anonymous No.53209133]

>>53209050
He was already defending hikes in January
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/jerome-powell-pitches-benevolent-interest-rate-hikes-again/2022/01/11/baa2f434-732c-11ec-a26d-1c21c16b1c93_story.html

[Anonymous No.53209140]

>>53209115
Hello, fellow Pivoteer
What vehicle are you buying with your meltup money?
I've decided on getting a Genesis. Staying humble.

[Anonymous No.53209171]

>>53209125
Standard factory farming ensures that the chicken are prone to mass disease

[Anonymous No.53209173]

>>53209133
The mainstream narrative about rate hikes changed after the clear market peak in late 2021, but up until the new year the narrative was consistently "we're gonna wait and see what happens in 2022 and probably start hikes in 2023 but they won't be that drastic"

[Anonymous No.53209174]

>>53209171
explain

[Anonymous No.53209175]

>>53209050
>I havent lost any money tho!
Yeah uh huh sure and thats why youve been seething about no news dumping for months now right?

[Anonymous No.53209179]

>>53209120
>If I can quit a 15 year cigarette addiction, I can quit anything.
Have you tried any of it, yet?

[Anonymous No.53209182]

>>53209083
In March 2021, only one member thought the FFR would go above 0.1% by end of 2022. Of course, things changed.

[Anonymous No.53209183]

>>53209128
It tanks over and over again because it takes time for the rate hikes to even matter anon. And markets are 6-12 years forward looking.

[Anonymous No.53209185]

People are always saying the bond market is right more often than the stock market. What do they mean by this?
What does the bond market say? What would that even look like? All I see are some goddamn yields.

[Anonymous No.53209190]

>>53208626
I fucking wish.

[Anonymous No.53209195]

>>53209128
you should familiarize yourself with this concept of the riddle in this video
https://youtu.be/98TQv5IAtY8
even absolutely perfect rational logicians can take 3 months to come to the correct / same conclusion
information also disseminates slowly over time, not everybody reads the same thing at the same time
there also two different ways to interpret data
a bull can look at a horrible piece of economic news and think it is bullish, as it indicates that monetary policy will ease
a bear can look at a horrible piece of economic news and think it is bearish, as it indicates that the economy is dogshit, and that the Fed will not pivot prematurely, so it will mean higher interest rates in a dogshit economy - which is very bearish
there is also the technical or positioning side to the market, where due to the positioning of puts / call walls and other derivatives the market will have a short term rally
>if the market wasn't just schizo algorithms cockfighting we should have seen an incredible dump as soon as everyone realized that hikes were in fact on the table in 2022
we did.. we literally saw this happen in real time, immediately after the Fed minutes came out in 2022 January - this caused the market to crash
everyone's memory is a little muddled in this period, as Russia invaded Ukraine shortly after
the initial kick, the initial dump, the initial crash, was due to the Fed minutes indicating an aggressive hike timeline for 2022

[Anonymous No.53209196]

>>53209174
Imagine your average Chinese city but 5x as dense and everyone are siblings and products of wincest
That's chicken farming nowadays

[Anonymous No.53209205]

>>53207852
Oil is lowest point in a year. Cheaper overheads means inflation stabilizes

[Anonymous No.53209214]

>>53209182
this is not the same thing as
>members of the Fed 'promised' that there would be no hikes in 2022
but I agree, that their expectations for inflation
>muh transitory
were very wrong

[Anonymous No.53209215]

>>53207921
Oil lowest it's been in a year?

[Anonymous No.53209241]

>>53209175
It is SO fucking strange to me that you just accept it. It's not even a controversial thing to wonder why the markets are moving in a particular direction. It should be pretty simple, especially in the information age, to figure out why the markets are moving. But it's not even that - it's not just "oh shit this particular ticker just dropped off a cliff, I wonder what sort of news about the company dropped", it's quite literally the entire market moving in sync, down to the minute. It's only reasonable to assume that such an incredible move would happen for a reason, but of course faggot bears are trying to claim that there doesn't need to be a reason for billions and billions to slosh around like this.

[Anonymous No.53209262]

>>53208994
year of the crab and reduced hikes

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.53209271]

>>53209241
some of us know why the markets move in a certain direction, but this powerful group of people will have you cancelled if you call them a powerful group of people.

[Anonymous No.53209275]

>>53209214
Hey faggot have you realized yet that you're the only one who has used the word "promise"? Just contributes to my theory that you're either 14 or some kind of shill

[Anonymous No.53209282]

>>53209185
the bond market is larger than the stock market and with extremely high liquidity + volume
the bond market consists of more professional money managers who are moving billions of dollars in assets - your average Joe isn't trading bonds (lol)
so when the bond market moves, it's professionals moving it - or central bank invervention
all value is derived from the bond market - valuation models / discount cash flow / future value is all based upon comparing growth & future money to the risk free rate of bonds
>all I see are yields
yields move inverse to prices
in other words, if bonds are selling off / bond prices are going down, yields are going up
today for example, look at the 10yr yield (benchmark)
it's up 9, almost 10 basis points
this is a (fairly) severe sell off in bonds, where big money is selling the US 10 year yield
there are a lot of reasons for pros to want to sell the 10 year bond
they could think that inflation is moving higher, so want to hold less bonds
they could think that central bank policy will make interest rates move higher for longer (higher rates = lower bond prices) so they are front running central bank monetary policy
they could be selling bonds to allocate more money into other assets
they could be selling bonds as there is an arbitrage opportunity to convert to another currency, to buy another nations bond, to convert back blah blah blah
a lot of different reasons
but tldr; all you should really know is
>higher yields is bearish
>lower yields is bullish
however even these have great exceptions, as sometimes the market may be in a panic and be buying bonds as a flight to safety, driving up the price, making yields fall
this is a bearish event, as it's fear panic buying of the bonds
so you have to get to the "why" of the bond sell off, or bond buying

[Anonymous No.53209299]

>>53209271
How do I get in with this group of people?

[Anonymous No.53209307]

>>53209282
such nonsense

[Anonymous No.53209311]

>>53209307
lol what part?
>inb4 ALL OF IT

[Anonymous No.53209313]

>Crabbing around yesterday's close.

Move somewhere you stupid cunt. Someone tweet something stupid to get the market going or something.

[Anonymous No.53209326]

>>53209282
>they could think that inflation is moving higher, so want to hold less bonds
Where does the money from selling the 10y bonds go to?

[Anonymous No.53209329]

Migrate before some dingus makes a third thread

>>53207719

>>53207719

>>53207719

>>53207719

[Anonymous No.53209339]

>>53209311
>higher yields is bearish
>lower yields is bullish
too much of a generalization.
How high are you btw?

[Anonymous No.53209378]

>>53209329
Fine I'll bake

[Anonymous No.53209385]

>>53209326
stocks, commodities, other currencies / cash, derivatives
>>53209339
for someone who is brand new to the bond market, this is a fine generalization for them to grasp
higher yields is bearish for many reasons
>valuation models under pressure
>risk free rate more attractive
>companies that operate on debt can both borrow less and pay more in interest
>overall less economic growth
>less demand for consumers on credit at higher rates
lower yields bullish
>valuation models
>stocks more attractive TINA
>companies can borrow more and pay less interest
>overall more economic growth
>more demand from consumers on credit
this is of course very simple way of looking at it, and there are a lot of exceptions, and a lot of different reasons why bond price movements are bearish / bullish
but as a starting off point, this is completely fine, and nothing that I said is false

[Anonymous No.53209391]

>>53209385
>stocks
Good

[Anonymous No.53209462]

>>53209378
based baggiehater

[Anonymous No.53209469]

>>53209282
Thank you, bond boy.

[Anonymous No.53209503]

>>53209241
Bro you agreed with me earlier that markets move up and down overshooting their equilibrium price. That is really all the explanation you should need.

You realize if you are talking about a market index dumping you are talking about a aggregation of lets take the SnP 500, thats 500 stocks trading around supply and demand to find an equilibrium price. And their movements start to correlate with each other for various reasons so at the end of the day the only reason a stock index moves is because there is trading going on amongst those 500 stocks based on thousands of factors. Stock indexes could dump entirely on AAPL news it being 6% of SNP 500 and over 10% of Nasdaq100. If AAPL pumps the tech sector pumps which is over 28% of S&P 500. And AAPL could literally just pump because it is at a price with reason for traders to pump it there. Like at a price "support" or a price "resistance."

You need to stop shitting up the threads m8 for real.