/smg/ stock market general

[Anonymous No.53171394]

Can’t Do Anything edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy2trws.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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[Anonymous No.53171418]

What a week, huh

100% long into next week

[Anonymous No.53171423]

six figure hell again

[Anonymous No.53171439]

>>53171418
I'm proud of you

[its too late you shouldve bought BBBY calls No.53171471]

BBBY is either going to bankrupt or going to squeeze in a very short time frame. I don't see this dragging along for weeks, let alone months.
No point in buying shares in my opinion.

If BBBY is not going bankrupt in two weeks (extreme likely) it's going to squeeze to at least $5 to possibly even $50. Making me $100K - $1M

[Anonymous No.53171478]

I believe in my Oil+Tech mix for 2023. Not sure for oil though, as I already +120% it.

[Anonymous No.53171487]

Anyone looking at EM for 2023?
I'm thinking of a Vaneck Vietnam ETF that just opened
Might buy it after the general BTFO that is coming, EMs will probably recover faster

[Anonymous No.53171490]

>natgas

[Anonymous No.53171504]

TLT and TLTW bros…

[Anonymous No.53171506]

Hello,

Please critique my spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12rM_KKi34h95auoUJ0SBke9E6dUZP-fTDFegDuC7-PA/edit?usp=sharing

I have no friends that like talking about autistic stuff like this. This is a quick npv model for nvda. If you think it's cool, gay or retarded feel free to point me to whatever you think works better.

[Anonymous No.53171515]

Also looking at AMC and I know most here hate meme stocks so don't pile on, but there are like 30-40 high profile movies coming out this year which makes me bullish especially after it's been bashed down 90%

[Anonymous No.53171524]

How far does TSLA fall? 50 looks like the next support

[Anonymous No.53171525]

Guys thoughts on solid boomer dividend stocks? I'm liking AOS but I'm half in half out with precious metals and uranium stocks.


>>53171439
That's so fuckin funny dude I love this place just for the random funny thing that just hits the right spot at the right time.

[Anonymous No.53171530]

>>53171515
They lose money regardless of how many people go see the movies. The core business literally just doesn’t work or make money.

[its too late you shouldve bought BBBY calls No.53171540]

>>53171515
AMC is going to dilute 1,000% of outstanding shares when they pass the vote on $APE conversion. CEO of AMC sold shares directly to hedge funds to ensure the vote is in favor of dilution.

The price of AMC has nothing to do with high profile movies coming out and everything to do with dilution.

[Anonymous No.53171555]

>>53171487
>Anyone looking at EM for 2023?
I'm looking at EM government bonds through VWOB (Vanguard Emerging Markets Government Bond Index). I'm waiting until the market finally capitulates and the drives the dollar higher. I'll buy VWOB for a big discount and get great distributions.

[its too late you shouldve bought BBBY calls No.53171557]

>>53171530
ID: SNEED

Kek. Don't buy AMC though. Only GME has a chance of making it, and BBBY is a great play against bankruptcy because the risk reward ratio is so favourable right now.

[Anonymous No.53171559]

U.S House under Kevin as speaker has said they'd pull funding for hiring those 87000 more IRS agents. What does that mean? Well uh your forthcoming tax return won't be eyeballed nearly as much for one.

[Anonymous No.53171579]

>>53171557
You will lose money on BBBY and then act surprised. Then GME will lose you money and you’ll act surprised again.

[Anonymous No.53171589]

>>53171394
LEVERAGE INTO CHINESE STOCKS ON THE NASDAQ NOW AND ALL 2023

[its too late you shouldve bought BBBY calls No.53171595]

>>53171579
Or maybe I will make money on BBBY not going bankrupt in two weeks and you'll act surprised.
I will be surprised if I make money on BBBY calls, I know the odds aren't great. But the odds are much greater than the market is pricing.

[Anonymous No.53171599]

>>53171478

I made 1800% on OIL in two years. I’m thinking the new play is gold stocks

[Anonymous No.53171619]

This is the most we have been inverted since ever. Never before have bonds were so deep into inversion like this. When, not if, is the crash happening. That is the question.

[Anonymous No.53171625]

LOL

[Anonymous No.53171632]

>>53171619
but labour market tight

[Anonymous No.53171645]

Let's take a moment to celebrate that reddit baggies have lost money for 2 consecutive years.

[Anonymous No.53171660]

i hope bobos keep shorting and getting short squeezed and the market rallies to new ATH's a JPow cries live on air during the FOMC begging the markets to stop going up.

[Anonymous No.53171699]

>>53171660
I want you to stand in front of a mirror and say that exact post to yourself

[Anonymous No.53171700]

>>53171625
scott adams is fucking based.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFwJNRbAJ0I

[Anonymous No.53171719]

You should have listened…. This is a mere 4% of my power….

[Anonymous No.53171739]

>>53171645
I'll toast to that
Imagine getting forcibly injected through brainwashing and also getting rekt and they're still buying stupid stuff. Investing in Funko pops and shitcoins and AMC lmao

[Anonymous No.53171869]

i grow weary of this redditworld and redditconomy

[Anonymous No.53171891]

>invest 100$
>gows up to 110$
>sell
>25% tax
>left with 82.50$

you seriously need to make huge profits in order to not get fucked by taxes, everyone who isnt a millionaire is basically priced out. how do you guys not lose money all the time? boggles my mind really

[Anonymous No.53171897]

Is now the time to start buying bonds like TLT? Is there something Im missing? Surely the upside is more than the potential downside.

[Anonymous No.53171911]

>>53171504
Is now the time to buy?

[Anonymous No.53171915]

>>53171891
bait.jpg

[Anonymous No.53171916]

>>53171891
waow

[Anonymous No.53171918]

if nat gas gaps down I am killing myself

[Anonymous No.53171929]

somehow the money in my checking account doesnt grow haha
its stuck around 10k at the end of every month haha why is that? I dont spend a lot of money, I dont go to restaurants or order food, I dont have netflix/prime/disney+ etc, I only buy stuff thats on sale and I live pretty frugaly so why is it stuck lol

[Anonymous No.53171950]

Would you listen to a young female asian youtuber on what to invest in this year?

[Anonymous No.53171954]

>>53171929
try for 1 month to keep an actual, 100% accurate, budget
in other words, write down every single expense you have, no matter how small, and write down every deposit you make
you will be surprised by how much money you're actually spending
it's very similar to a fat girl being like
>I'm exercising, I'm dieting, why am I not losing weight?
and then she counts calories one day and she's actually eating 4,000 calories a day
>calories in calories out
>money in money out
same thing

[Anonymous No.53171955]

>>53171929
I'd call the bank and ask why its not going up. good luck my friend :^)

[Anonymous No.53171970]

>>53171471
What makes you think it could get to $50

[Anonymous No.53171991]

i came i saw, i came
whats happening this year in the market? i want to hear some predictions and then review them again at the end of the year to see who got it right. maybe rocker should do a vid on it, like /smg/ 's take with some commentary

[Anonymous No.53172003]

>>53171897
>Surely the upside is more than the potential downside.
There's significant upside and downside potential at this level. I have a TLT position that I'm not selling now but I'm not adding either. If there is any surprise growth/inflation in the near future then TLT could return to the low 90s. There is also the possibility that foreign countries like Japan will need to sell some of their US bonds therefore pushing the price of TLT down.
On the other hand TLT will perform well during economic slowdown and will get bid really high if there is enough market panic.
There are a variety of factors that affect long duration bonds: future growth expectations, inflation expectations, black swan events, panic, foreign buying/selling pressure to name a few. Yes it's a good recession play but its not a sure thing.

[Anonymous No.53172013]

>>53171950
how big are her tits? If they are bigger than my head I will give her a respectful listen.

[Anonymous No.53172016]

>>53171970
M&A announcement -> rises to $3 to $5 -> meme magic and short covering does their thing

[Anonymous No.53172040]

question for you smiggers

what makes something gap up or down over the weekend?
sometimes futures or cfds open on sunday night for me(a euro) and it opens way lower then the close price of friday

most important, is there a way to track the price over the weekend to not get a heart attack at open?

[Anonymous No.53172051]

>>53172040
the harder you look the less you see.

[Anonymous No.53172057]

>>53172051
so you dont know

[Anonymous No.53172060]

>>53172040
I don't know what you are following, but this isn't a weekend problem. It happens everytime the east coast wakes up and is allowed to trade. Some retard swing in one direction or another.

[Anonymous No.53172088]

>>53172040
a certain tribe is able to trade before the market opens for the rest of us

[Anonymous No.53172124]

>>53172088
but we are also unable to see the prices at which they are trading stocks and commodities at before the trading of futures

[Anonymous No.53172175]

I think 2023 is going to be MY year!

[Anonymous No.53172222]

2023 will be the year I will either finally get to touch a woman in a sexual manner and cum or plunge further into inceldom.

[Anonymous No.53172238]

>>53171891
I find it is the opposite desu. Invest only in $1 chunks. That way I don't have to pay many taxes. It's a good strategy last year I hardly had to pay any taxes at all, worked good.

[Anonymous No.53172240]

Situation: I am in my 20s and save about €1k per month from my overall income. My pay will rise 9-14% this year, depending on how well I negotiate next Monday. In terms of investment I get about €270-300 per month from an investment of €33k in medium term loans for companies and certificates in my own company (about 10% YoY). I hold €7k crypto and have made about €1k overall in the last 2 months on the stock market on an investment of €3k. I am considering pouring more assets into the stock market, but am also tempted to increase passive, guaranteed income (I have a relatively large amount of cash rn). The market is so jittery right now that I am not certain I can beat an easy cash flow. What are your thoughts/strategy smg?

[Anonymous No.53172245]

>>53172003
Thanks for the post!

[Anonymous No.53172252]

>>53172124
because they're trading on shadow markets

[Anonymous No.53172255]

>>53172240
JEPI

[Anonymous No.53172283]

>>53171869
Pizza pizza!

[Anonymous No.53172291]

>>53171891

[Anonymous No.53172294]

>>53171524
$35

[Anonymous No.53172330]

>>53171869
I think she's not understanding the core concept of the title.

[Anonymous No.53172344]

Should I move to Las Vegas this year? I enjoy dry + hot weather, so maybe it's the right fit. Also, I'm a degenerate gambler, and so are my parents, so they might actually want to come visit me if I moved to Vegas

[Anonymous No.53172350]

>>53171869
Are those wef badges?

[Anonymous No.53172400]

>>53172344
Water's hard.

[Anonymous No.53172552]

>>53172240
You have a bit of money & already making some decents gains. Look to expand the operations you see fit to, but just do it slowly & incrementally. Increase you stock account some % then carry on, when you have a couple more good months, increase again. Realistically if your making 1k on 3k in 2mths then you must be taking some big risks or just very lucky so far or maybe your the God of trading. Even if you did keep that perfomance on-going your still taking bigger risks than the passive account & no matter how good you are a bad event can fuck you & either make you lose capital or trap your capital in shit position, however you deal with losses. This is the reason to always keep some money in "safe" assets & some in risky trading. There is no need to be binary with decisions, all or nothing, just shift cash from one side of the boat to the other 5-10% a time, back & forth. Set limits with what you are comfy. Soon as your out your comfort zone your chances of fucking up will rocket.

[Anonymous No.53172555]

I had a look through the OP links, but didn't find anything good specifically dealing with understanding VIX in depth, anyone got a good resource?
Have a photo as payment in advance

[Anonymous No.53172572]

Vic is nearly 20 and vvix is at a 5 yr low, why shouldn't the market crash?

[Anonymous No.53172653]

>>53172555
Maybe this is useful to you: https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/faqs/

[Anonymous No.53172833]

>>53172255
>>53172552
Thanks bros. I like the title god of trading, but I just applied the ‘buy low, sell high’ method a few times when I felt a stock was oversold or pumping too fast. Leverage helps in that regard. So far it seems to me mostly luck. But greed is a terrible drug. God willing I will stick to allocating most money to stable, more surefire income, and perhaps I will expand into these index funds with a few thousand.

[Anonymous No.53172986]

Smig is dead

[Anonymous No.53173031]

Should I buy an I-bond or just stick to short-term treasuries?

[Anonymous No.53173106]

Is Terry Smith's strategy smart or did he just get lucky because his fund was established during the greatest bull run in history?

[Anonymous No.53173128]

>>53173106
>Fundsmith
>Funds amiss

[Anonymous No.53173163]

>>53172555
here you go. this is all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.53173166]

Stop selling. Start buying. You lazy niggers.

[Anonymous No.53173168]

>>53173106
Terry is great but I dont quite understand some of the steps of their investing strategy. Is it really that simple, bros?

[Anonymous No.53173181]

Oh no

[Anonymous No.53173182]

>>53173163
>all you need to know.
no, also explain to him VIX term structure and the ramifications of contango being so prevalent.

[Anonymous No.53173196]

anyone trade futures on e*trade? what kind of approvals do they have on there?

[Anonymous No.53173228]

>>53173182
>>53173163
>>53172555
if you insist:

>https://sixfigureinvesting.com/2016/10/is-shorting-uvxy-tvix-vxx-the-perfect-trade/

[Anonymous No.53173244]

>>53172040
Sounds like you just arent seeing the premarket and postmarket trading

[Anonymous No.53173267]

>>53173244
where in the talmud does it say they consider us cattle? not even saying you're wrong i just want to know what to quote to people who don't believe me.

[Anonymous No.53173278]

>>53173106
in all seriousness, they have a pretty based portfolio except for the obvious shitters like Paypal. And they are one of my favorite funds to track names of interest they've mentioned like OTIS, which they did buy recently

[Anonymous No.53173306]

>>53172040
>markets close
>last ask is 10 pts above any bid
>someone market buys at 6pm on sunday
>gap up

[Anonymous No.53173312]

>>53173267
Goyim literally means cattle, idiot.

[Anonymous No.53173315]

>>53173163
Note that the methodology for calculating the VIX changed in 2014, so you should be a bit cautious about comparing values from before and after.

[Anonymous No.53173345]

>>53172040
Futures and PM trading are illiquid and volatile. Don't even look at them if you have a weak stomach

[Anonymous No.53173351]

>>53173244
I said futures didnt I?
What makes commodities futures gap up or down, for example natgas. The barchart on nymex is filled with gaps

[Anonymous No.53173370]

>pre-diluvian hyperfutures
looks like another π^∞ eternities of crabbing
thanks biden

[Anonymous No.53173406]

>>53173312
i need sources, nigga. normies just think you're a conspiracy theorist Xist Xphobe otherwise.

[Anonymous No.53173427]

>>53173370
The word you're looking for as "antedeluvian" you troglodyte

[Anonymous No.53173438]

>>53173427
thats it, Im banishing you to the hungry ghost realm0000 for talking too much shit. have fun idiot

[Anonymous No.53173443]

>>53173312
It means "nations" retard

[Anonymous No.53173448]

>>53173315
the point remains the same: volatility is a mean-reverting phenomenon and as a result you should short spikes because it's literally rigged to go down, especially when you add in things like in contango and backwardation and other crazy shit like that which means basically "spikes always go down and also there is decay involved which further dumps every spike".

you can also compare the spikes in the VIX to something like the SPY or any of your favorite brand name stocks, and you'll likely find great dip buying opportunities there. it also shows what each level means: 80+ is basically pricing in the apocalypse (2008 great financial crisis, 2020 pandemic), 50-ish is a flash crash, and 30-40 is more common with just good dips that aren't full-on crashes or anything like that. the peak of the VIX during the covid crash for example nearly perfectly times the bottom on the indices. look on the charts yourself if you don't believe me, match up the days with peaks at the various important values and then match those with whatever you want to buy and it's probably a big drop that eventually reverses.

[Anonymous No.53173449]

>>53173438
Shut up rat

[Anonymous No.53173459]

>>53173449
no u, nword

[Anonymous No.53173471]

>>53173181
Only complete fucking losers buy watches. Your phone has a clock on it.

[Anonymous No.53173474]

5G causes cancer

[Anonymous No.53173478]

AYO HOLUP HOLUP
WFC OUT HERE PISSIN ON NIGGAZ BRUH FRFR NO CAP

[Anonymous No.53173484]

>>53173474
And water is wet, more at 11

[Anonymous No.53173494]

how do i make money on Saturday??!!

[Anonymous No.53173501]

>>53173459
Hush rat

[Anonymous No.53173511]

is buying puts on SOXS 5 years out a good idea

[Anonymous No.53173512]

>>53173494
it involves kneepads and no gag reflex

>>53173501
blocked

[Anonymous No.53173513]

Nigget

[Anonymous No.53173524]

I think im gonna watch lotr and draw Marina today in celebration of my enemy getting covid

He was double vaxxed, lol

[Anonymous No.53173527]

>>53173448
>as a result you should short spikes because it's literally rigged to go down
hahaha, no, it's not that simple. If you "short a spike" you're in backwardation, and what happens to the thing (future contract) that you're shorting in backwardation? Backwardation pushes its price up as it approaches expiration. And what happens if spot VIX fails to quickly drop low enough so that it would be in contango again or near? Your short bleeds money on a daily basis. So shorting spikes is only a good idea if you're pretty sure that it's gonna go back down quickly, which you don't really know, so you're speculating.

>especially when you add in things like in contango and backwardation and other crazy shit like that
oh my bad I should have kept on reading before replying, didn't realise that you're dumb
>there is decay involved which further dumps every spike
lmao what?

[Anonymous No.53173536]

>>53173459
>nword

...nice guy?

[Anonymous No.53173542]

>>53173345
So the gap is caused by the first trade of the day being far off what it closed on?

[Anonymous No.53173549]

>>53173345
How are futures illiquid?

[Anonymous No.53173553]

>Warren Buffett makes $684,932 per hour in dividends
Holy Moly

[Anonymous No.53173555]

>>53173524
Watch twin peaks: fire walk with me instead. It's on HBO max and seems like a movie more fitting for a sick guy like yourself

[Anonymous No.53173574]

>>53173527
>(future contract)

that's not what i was talking about but okay. there are other ways you can take advantage of VIX spikes.

[Anonymous No.53173578]

>>53173555
I dont think youve directly replied to me in months

I drew this

[Anonymous No.53173580]

Bottom is not in until apple has big layoffs and shuts down several stores
>but muh tesla muh amazon muh salesforce muh meta muh twitter muh google

no one cares about your junior varsity "tech" companies. Apple is the market leader to wall street like bitcoin is to the masses of shitcoins that are dumped off and treated like bags of shit by shitcoin exchanges. You want to know what is held by important asset managers, pension funds, index funds? Yeah its apple. Your jars of dirt shitstonks are exit liquidity for traders. Apple is king simple as. Market turns around when apple goes hard into expansion.

[Anonymous No.53173591]

>>53173578
That's very nice. Here's a picture of my wife and daughter

[Anonymous No.53173593]

>>53173345
/ES is one of the most liquid tickers in the world. 200-400 billion dollars of turnover DAILY. Checkmate, libtard.

[Anonymous No.53173595]

>>53173578
you're mentally ill and require medication.

[Anonymous No.53173600]

Friday decides the fate of America

[Anonymous No.53173602]

>>53173542
the better question is why do gaps tend to fill?

[0x58120E2F2C6AE9f89481C05DA3A749928Dcc7238 No.53173604]

>>53173555
Get robbed

[Anonymous No.53173605]

>>53173553
Sounds about right coming from old satanic cult money.

[Anonymous No.53173607]

>>53173604
100 Checkems scheduled for deposit

[Anonymous No.53173623]

>>53173595
Maybe but I have freetime to persue a hobby

[Anonymous No.53173653]

>>53173591
what a lovely family
i hope lizzie and i will be so blessed someday

[Anonymous No.53173656]

>>53173580
Based S&P 1 index investor.

[Anonymous No.53173678]

>>53173031
I bonds are still like 6% for 6 months and bills are 4-5%. Not much difference really.

[Anonymous No.53173680]

>>53173653
wasn't she barren or something, and that was the whole plot of the multiverse of madness movie?

[Anonymous No.53173689]

>>53173653
Unfortunately that won't happen because liz is an alien and your DNA won't be compatible

[Anonymous No.53173693]

Don’t forget ice bath day Smg
It’s already working to help gains just look at yesterday
I am up for the year

[Anonymous No.53173702]

>>53173595
It's possible medication would just make him worse.

[Anonymous No.53173704]

>>53173680
Robots have no sperm
Her child is literally named after the cause of all suffering in this world

Marvel uses gnositc literature to spread the lie that the demiurge is a kind benevolent being in the comics

He only wants you to suffer

[Anonymous No.53173707]

>>53173511
There are no markets for 2028 options on that ETF, Anon.

[Anonymous No.53173724]

>>53173602
Better question is, how to avoid getting raped on gaps with cfds

[Anonymous No.53173740]

>>53173693

[Anonymous No.53173742]

>>53173600
it's gonna dump on friday, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.53173751]

>>53173704
Her child is named Greed?

[Anonymous No.53173760]

>>53173724
Stop going all in, calculate your risk. Also, use CFDs on index futures, no gapping there.

[Anonymous No.53173763]

>>53173600
>friday the 13th
>powell speaks the day before

[Anonymous No.53173832]

>>53173600
>crab week until gigadump friday
i'm fucking stoked

[Anonymous No.53173836]

>>53173763
>powell speaking on cpi day
it's gonna be a day

[Anonymous No.53173838]

>>53172040
I don't know how you didn't get a proper answer from these retards.
>Information doesn't stop over the weekend, things are always changing
>Supply and demand will adjust to this new information
>On Sunday night opening, futures and forex tickers will gap up or down if supply and demand has changed price.
The gap is essentially a breakout that happened while the market was closed, an imaginary candlestick pushing us up or down. Retards think that institutions will sit on their hands and not adjust their bid or ask to reflect reality.
The main way to keep up with this is to check the news, forums, and twitter for any happenings. Also BTC is obviously always open, while not a perfect indicator it gives you the gist of the state of risk-on assets. Nasdaq and S&P products are risk-on assets as well.

[Anonymous No.53173850]

>>53171487
I own Vietnam Enterprise Investments Limited
LON: VEIL

Has been ok trade

[Anonymous No.53173852]

>>53173707
I thought 2025 was in 5 years

[Anonymous No.53173870]

>>53173602
Gaps fill because it represents a void of price discovery. Prices in a gap range were never known so once the price goes down it has to re-discover those prices at a later date. This may take a long time, but it does happen.

[Anonymous No.53173881]

>>53173870
Speaking to that PANW chart should I apply to work there now that the gap filled or should I wait until it (inevitably) goes down a little more?

[Anonymous No.53173905]

>>53173600
I'm gonna SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP

[Anonymous No.53173943]

>>53173852
Lol, I wouldn’t trust you to manage my money.

[Anonymous No.53173953]

>>53173943
good idea

[Anonymous No.53173969]

>>53173600
I do business with some of those companies

[Anonymous No.53173980]

>>53173600
Oh shit the banks report BEFORE open. It is going to be a b-b-b-bloodbath

[Anonymous No.53173985]

I don't do business with any of those companies.

[Anonymous No.53173998]

>>53173985
You just don't realize it

[Anonymous No.53174018]

>>53173980
why?

[Anonymous No.53174025]

2023 is the year of the money market isn't it?

[Anonymous No.53174099]

>>53174018
>ERs come out
>Market instantly reacts
If it was at market close the algos could use the weekend to figure things out. Friday is going to be a violent algo thrash.

[Anonymous No.53174115]

how many years will this bear market last?

[Anonymous No.53174123]

NVDA still has a P/E ratio of 60. Do you think it's better to short it next bounce with 2.5 leverage/margin or just buy SOXS no leverage?

I think it can go the same way as TSLA, a lot of semis are in way better shape, like INTC, and not sure I want to short semis as a whole even though they're cyclical and we're going into recession

boomers have been saying its a stock pickers market, so maybe no more ETFs

[Anonymous No.53174132]

Why is it bullish if people lose their jobs but bearish if companies report reduced profits? Seems kind of unfair of Jerome

[Anonymous No.53174161]

>>53174115
1.5-2 years

We aren't going into 2024 election season in a bear market

[Anonymous No.53174198]

>but muh amazon muh future of ecommerce
oh yeah over 2 decades, retired original CEO and couldn't build a branding presence that apple did with the ipod in under 5 years, surely my "ecommerce" will work with nonexistent branding and an expanding moat you losers topkek better sell on those "acquisition" pumps cnbc shills.
>muh tesla owns the EV markets
ah yes your "CEO" that spends the top of the bullrun in panic mode looking for exit liquidity and making a complete clown of himself with half baked tech, all apple needs is an iEV to strike at right time and its ipod all over again while tesla will be remembered as sony walkman but without the same memorable legacy
>muh google muh AI
mhmm I'm sure their policy of hiring professional leetcode retards to work on go nowhere projects while losing search engine presence to fucking tiktok is confidence building. Congrats you are the same baggies holding IBM thinking OS/2 is the future when microsoft just dropped windows 95. Better pray for that next "market boom" for exit liquidity.
>microsoft we duh best
and losing peoples interest in computers faster then /g/ can make another apple sucks complain seethe and jealousy thread. Oh lil baby you will make some gains for sure, like GE holding boomers that didnt dump their bags long long time ago. Maybe durgasirs executives will give you some pitty fiat from the 10000 garbage tier subsidiaries microsoft buys out in hope of churning a profit, oh wait, that money is going back to mumbai shell companies. None for you shitstonk holder.
>meta muh metaverse is infinite moneyz
and cuckerberg will never build his fantasy. Hundreds of billions in the toilet and premier talent like carmack gone. Surely a big boy company like apple will not hire him on and give him big boy professional talent and respect to build a real metaverse that you know does produce profits unlike zucks world.

No second best, no index fund, just apple dragged down by garbage.

[Anonymous No.53174208]

>>53174115
until jerome pivots, will be some time this year. cutting interest rates is typically how recessions are dealt with. he can shid and fard all he wants but eventually he's going to be forced to do it or be fired and replaced by someone who will. depends how long people are willing to get fucked by inflation and then recession before they start rioting i guess. me personally, im just gonna keep buying and holding AMD and double my money in a couple of years, im happy to wait since all it means is i get to accumulate more shares that cost nothing to hold.

[Anonymous No.53174225]

>>53172222
Godspeed quadman

[Anonymous No.53174278]

>>53173600
actually that would be on thursday when we get CPI and more jobs numbers

[Anonymous No.53174289]

>>53172222
Depending on your age, it might be best in your best interest to accept wizardry in these trying times. Alchemy will be extremely important after the financial collapse.

[FOREX ANON No.53174307]

>>53171394
forex anon here. I hate the sociopathic double digit IQ mouth breathers so I will only tell this thread. Check the head and shoulders on audjpy for next week.

YW

[Anonymous No.53174319]

>>53174307
what broker do you use for forex?

[Anonymous No.53174351]

SAVA sisters, how could this happen to us...

[Anonymous No.53174393]

>>53173600
u guys bullish on banks?

[Anonymous No.53174404]

>>53174393
Being bullish on anything right now is retarded. Also that's a man btw.

[Anonymous No.53174414]

>>53174198
based applechad

[Anonymous No.53174416]

I'm bullish on bunny pussy

[Anonymous No.53174424]

>>53174404
I know rising rates are usually good for banks but nobody can afford shit anymore so there are no loans or contracts
ofc thats a man and he's gonna be my wife

[Anonymous No.53174441]

>>53174393
his transition is nice to be fair. i would let him suck me and then suck him

[Anonymous No.53174452]

>>53174208
>be fired
lol, the last time someone in his position raised rates majorly they just called in the phone to whine to him about it. In top of that low to zero interest rates are an anomaly that will likely never be repeated again any time in the newt future.

[Anonymous No.53174460]

>>53173278
What I ask myself most is if companies with good fundamentals necessarily make for good stocks. His second largest holding is PM, which has insane ROCE and gross margins yet the share price went nowhere in the last 10 years.

[Anonymous No.53174509]

>>53173600
>BlackRock
Hey, I know those guys

[Anonymous No.53174512]

>>53174452
Rates will naturally go to zero. Its the prevailing trend of the last 500 years. Jerome is bucking that trend and so far achieveing soft landing... Recession worries have forced an oil sell off but the soft landing predicates no recesssion. If no recession what happens to oil again? Oil goes back up and up flies inflation again etc. Not many safe options are available currently

[Anonymous No.53174542]

>>53174198
it's the only name you need to own

[Anonymous No.53174592]

Does it make any sense to simultaneously short a company and long one of their bonds?

[Anonymous No.53174619]

>>53174592
Sometimes. That's called capital structure arbitrage.

[Anonymous No.53174628]

>>53174592
long bond for the coupon, short stock for a hedge?

[Anonymous No.53174667]

>>53174592
arbitrage trades require a very thorough analysis of the company's balance sheets, you're basically making a bet that the current market is mispricing something critical with the company
most people are better either shorting one of long the other

[Anonymous No.53174689]

>>53174619
>capital structure arbitrage
First link is an FDIC paper. Now I'm less confident.
>>53174628
Precisely. You'd want to find companies that are not in great shape, will likely not go bankrupt, and whose stock price will likely not recover. I'm sure given that set of requirements a better trade is there, but I wanted to explore that idea now that the bond market means something.

[Anonymous No.53174707]

>>53174667
It seems like every trade is "market is mispricing something". Getting real sick of this phrasing. I do not wish to be a slave to the algo, I just want to make a trade that makes sense and doesn't have to rely on some dick fuck at GS/BLK saying something.

[Anonymous No.53174786]

>>53173181
So official retail prices are getting closer to market prices? In the last few years, few people have been lucky enough to purchase Rolexes at retail price.

[Anonymous No.53174797]

>24
>80k net worth
Am I gonna make it ?

[Anonymous No.53174861]

>>53174797
you got there 4 years earlier than I did, and I am pretty sure I am going to make it. Then again, housing is fucked and that might be a problem.

Just remember to chase those salary bumps. They really change the game.

[Anonymous No.53174883]

>>53174797
Sounds about right. Remember to never take private equity as you will get pajeet scammed out of a lot of salary.

[Anonymous No.53174892]

>>53174707
>It seems like every trade is "market is mispricing something". Getting real sick of this phrasing. I do not wish to be a slave to the algo, I just want to make a trade that makes sense and doesn't have to rely on some dick fuck at GS/BLK saying something.

stok markets are just jews robbing people. BLK/GS are jewish organized crime groups, who operate under the protection of jewish lawyers and judges. Its a scam, the courts are total fraud, and the the country was taken over by jewish organized crime in 1913, with the establishment of the illegal "federal reserve" its litterally jews robbing everyone. thats what all courts and banks are.. jews are the enemy of all things on earth.

[Anonymous No.53174901]

>>53174797
>29
>-200k net worth

[Anonymous No.53174904]

>>53174689
do you have any companies in mind? typically the ones with high % coupons are the ones with the most risk of going bankrupt, in which case they will not pay the bond payments anymore

[Anonymous No.53174920]

>>53174901
You know, I feel bad for prison anime poster anon. You just know he is fucked.

[Anonymous No.53174961]

Oh good, my family cashed all of the checks I sent them as Christmas gifts

[Anonymous No.53174972]

>>53174961
*cheques

[Anonymous No.53174989]

>>53174904
UBER was the one I was looking at. 7% coupon with a 7% yield, a B- rating from S&P. I don't believe this company will ever be profitable, but they are enough of a household name I don't see them dissappearing. I had looked at some real trash recently, like COIN (17% yield) and UPST (21% yield), but I see no future for these bottom of the barrel shitcos.

[Anonymous No.53175028]

>>53174961
my mom always sends me money for christmas and my birthday, but I always shred them because I know she is broke and has no idea how much money she has in her account. My brother says he does the same. You should try being more of a deadbeat. Your family respects you too much.

[Anonymous No.53175037]

>>53174989
where do find data on what a companies bonds are yielding?

[Anonymous No.53175069]

>>53174132
The next stage of pivot psychosis will be stocks tanking on good earnings and pumping on terrible earnings

[Anonymous No.53175072]

>>53175028
I want them to cash the the checks though. They need the money more than I do. What am I supposed to do with it? Dump it into VOO and watch it slowly die? At least my mom can have some fun on the slot machines

[Anonymous No.53175079]

Is the bottom in? I skipped basically the entirety of 2022, feels like a good time to buy back.

[Anonymous No.53175103]

>>53175072
>fun on the slot machines
Don't enable bad behaviour

[Anonymous No.53175111]

>>53175072
I like sitting on my wealth like smaug. They can have it after they kill me.

[Anonymous No.53175117]

I have successfully redirected my "identity" onto another person angry at the artist I hate. People are so fucking dumb. Theyre third worlders, so I guess I can expect that.

[Anonymous No.53175127]

>>53175037
https://finra-markets.morningstar.com/BondCenter/Default.jsp my broker also lets you buy corpo bonds, but they take the listings down every night to refresh them.

[Anonymous No.53175138]

>>53175117
is this what happens when minorities program chatbots?

[0x962F3Ad0909ADa8692B10a620f526F2a9a896A73 No.53175141]

>>53175111
Cloomed

[Anonymous No.53175153]

>>53175141
100 Checkems scheduled for deposit

[Anonymous No.53175164]

>>53174404
I'm Bullish on miners who focus on battery compositions, and air travel

[Anonymous No.53175165]

I hate women

[Anonymous No.53175168]

>>53174460
hey buddy -->

[Anonymous No.53175173]

>>53175127
thanks

[Anonymous No.53175371]

You guys notice any difference in using Chrome vs Firefox for trading and charts?
I always used Chrome and found it lags a bit when I open tradingview or my broker account so I switched to Firefox, not really sure but it felt a tiny bit faster.

[Anonymous No.53175411]

>>53174393

[Anonymous No.53175427]

Are papers/books about investing even useful if they're over a decade old? I feel like the entire market landscape changed in 2020 and 2008 and that anything older is simplly not as relevant anymore.

[Anonymous No.53175441]

>>53174404
>>53174424
Rate hikes will end soon chuds you bobofaggots had your fun

[Anonymous No.53175447]

>>53175427
some things are different, many things are the same
expanding your breadth of knowledge will be worthwhile regardless

[Anonymous No.53175466]

>>53175117
So THIS is the power of AI… woah…

[Anonymous No.53175481]

God im fucking bored, what mobie is on for mobie night

[Anonymous No.53175484]

I wrote something in a thank you hallmark card and sealed it. Now I can't help but think I may have misspelled the word appreciate but I don't want to reopen the envelope to check. Thank you for reading my blog.

[Anonymous No.53175494]

>>53175481
Im going to watch a korean horror movie or a crime thriler. Just havent figured out which yet.

[Anonymous No.53175497]

When you invest, does the money not actually come out of your account until you lose it?
I have about $200 invested rn, and its all still in the brokerage. I figured if I bought say $200, that would become $0, then any gains or losses are off of that.
Then if I sold id get whatever the stocks are at then.

I guess it makes sense how it is so it doesnt show a negative value.
However, how are you supposed to easily tell how much you have available? Like if I only invested $135 and I had $65 available.

[Anonymous No.53175501]

>>53173600
>Almost all banks

If the credit debt bubble and shitty mortgage/loan reports are anything to go by, I'd say end of week could trigger the recession earlier than expected KEK

[Anonymous No.53175508]

>>53175501
we've been in a recession all year dumbass

[Anonymous No.53175516]

>>53175508
B-b-b-but I've been told by msm that we won't be in one until months later this year!

[Anonymous No.53175517]

Why don't Europeans use Air Conditioning?
Its not that expensive to get a single window unit.

I live in Florida and I never understand the mass bitching about slightly warmer summers.

[Anonymous No.53175533]

>>53171506
It's an interesting sheet, but I have no idea what you're basing the ridiculous growth numbers on. What's the fundamental analysis that makes you call for a 10x on earnings and 3x on revenue in 10 years, iirc?

[Anonymous No.53175540]

>>53175497
Your account shows its current worth, and should have a "holdings" value & also cash value. The cash is gone to whoever you brought stock off..

[Anonymous No.53175550]

>>53175497
Sounds like you have a margin account. A broker will deduct any purchases from your margin instead of deducting the cash. If you tried to buy anything your broker would not allow you to do that due to maintenance requirements. My margin account with Schwab does not do that. When I buy equities it shows me the deducted cash balance.

[Anonymous No.53175558]

>>53174989
where you looking at the bond yields? what website?

COIN and UPST might go bankrupt actually

[Anonymous No.53175560]

>>53175497
The balance of the account is what you'd have available if you sold everything in your account (fees if any would be deduced from that amount). You should be able to see what you have available to pull out and what you have invested. If you bought $200 and it went down 10%, you'd have $180, not -20. You should be able to look at unrealized gains and looses to see what you are talking about. Which brokerage? They all display your account differently. Also what is your mother tongue?

[Anonymous No.53175572]

Did you guys know that half of US workers make less than 30k a year?
That doesn't include the massive amount of young people dropping out of the workforce (that aren't included in any measurements).

With the new inflation factored in (which current poverty measures don't for political reasons), if you measure poverty the same as 5 years ago about 1/3-1/2 of the US is living around or below the poverty level.
Sustainable?

[Anonymous No.53175584]

>>53175494
I'm watching 'chronicle of the after school wars', some sort of Japanese battle royale horror movie... I've watched all the good horror movies already so I'm stuck dumpster diving

[Anonymous No.53175596]

>>53175558
>>53175127
I need a better source that lets me sort by issue date. I really want to see what bonds issued in 2022 were offering. Most bond screeners I have looked at only let you filter off of maturity date.

[Anonymous No.53175603]

>>53171394
Thoughts on investing in demonic hell-tech through ARKG?

[Anonymous No.53175607]

>>53174989
Isn't yield 100% a factor of bankruptcy risk, why would yield ever rise if not for fear that you won't get your money back. If easy money is over but 'uber will never be profitable' there's nothing stopping the company from imploding

[Anonymous No.53175613]

>>53175572
There is no economic report for quality of life. Doesn't matter that tons people are broke asses. If they are working and creating debt they are the problem Jerome wants to obliterate.

[Anonymous No.53175625]

>>53175603
I'd buy some https://www.argentenergy.com/ if they were public because Doom is a great game.

[Anonymous No.53175630]

>>53175603
I don't touch anything that Cathy Wood set up, maybe satanic gene manipulation is a good investment (probably meme valuations though) but why let her make the calls for you? Better to get something more passive I think

[Anonymous No.53175645]

>>53175481
I'm gonna watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqqs7DpTZKY

[Anonymous No.53175669]

TQQQ or SQQQ

[Anonymous No.53175680]

>>53175596
hmm... can you buy calls/put options on the bond price?

so this UBER thing is a senior unsecured note - that means that if they do go bankrupt, that puts you further up in the chain of getting your money back. maturity is about 28 months away... how liquid are these things in case you want to get out of the trade before 2+ years goes by?

payment is only twice per year.. do any of these payout monthly?

[Anonymous No.53175682]

>>53175669
Takagi starts by T, therefore TQQQ.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.53175702]

>>53175607
My specific case for uber is that they're enough of a household name with a big enough moat to stick around in some shape of form. Real shitcos that offer no novel services, solely existing from zirp would not be candidates for that trade.

[Anonymous No.53175713]

>>53174123
most semis are too beaten down to short. NVDA and AMD are interesting. nvda looks like their revenues spiked with bitcoin, analysts are projecting that growth to come back but I don't buy it yet.

broadcom on the other hand, insane earnings growth constantly even through 2022 . more people working from home buying routers? Idk its strange. but their income was growing faster than revenues it'll probably slow down at least.

[Anonymous No.53175718]

>>53175669
UDOW+SQQQ

[Anonymous No.53175720]

>>53175427
It's different this time!

[Anonymous No.53175726]

>>53174307
howd usd/cad go? it looked volatile

[Anonymous No.53175747]

>>53175584
>f Japanese battle royale horror movie...
There is some japanese school battle royale on the horror category there. Might give it a try at some point.

[Anonymous No.53175756]

>>53175127
How is Uber going to cough up a billion dollars in two years if rates stay high? Then again, without Uber, California would collapse, so I guess they're not going to let that happen.

[Anonymous No.53175780]

>>53175680
That site lists trade histories for each bond. Most of them are pretty liquid. Bond derivatives get very complicated. The credit default swap is the most popular, but no one in this thread is rich enough for one of those. As for payment frequency it completely varies on a bond to bond basis.

[Anonymous No.53175800]

>>53175427
Yes if they was written by a big trader/investor who made it. Its how they played the game that matters not the rules of the game that can change. Jesse Livermores book is 100yrs old, its a great read with still plenty of relevent info. He was a big swinging trader all that time ago & although you can tell how things changed with the internet, electronic trading & the scale of things, its really not all that different. The main reason people make it or fail are the same, greed & fear mostly, herding public, going agaisnt your own better instincts, refusing to take losses while they are small, etc.

[Anonymous No.53175831]

>>53175713
I don't get stock like Nvidia, if earnings go up 6 times it's priced like a boring value stock, yet people dont buy boring value stocks, they buy Nvidia for the privilege of... needing earnings to go up 6 times.
If I wanted to make a high risk high reward bet on something like a large cap along those lines, I'd definitely go for TSMC instead and hope China doesn't invade the next 5 years.
>>53175702
Well sure they can have a moat, but if they can't pay off interest expense or maturities it's over anyhow, unless they renegotiate their loans.
I've had a stock that was involved in debt re-negotiations and it's a nightmare to own, even if it doesn't go bankrupt. If you're trading it, sure, I know nothing about trading, but long-term junk bond investing for 7% annual return? Risk is way too high for me.

[Anonymous No.53175867]

>>53175780
so if the share price is going up and the yield is going down... that means its becoming less risky right? in terms of possible bankruptcy

[Anonymous No.53175892]

>>53175165
I love women.

[Anonymous No.53175917]

I love small rabbit women

[Anonymous No.53175978]

>>53175831
The only reason I am even thinking about this is due to a concept some anon from a week ago brought up about distressed companies. There's going to be a lot of panic'd companies now that will need to sell competitively yielding bonds to raise capital. If you can pick a company with a high likelyhood of staying around you can get a nice slurp on their bonds. Right after the 'rona crash XOM sold 30231GBF8, yielding 4.2%, which back when those rates were cut to 0 was massive. Stocks look to be going lower, but there are some great opportunities in a now stressed debt market.

[Anonymous No.53175989]

>Economist Campbell Harvey has had a winning track record since he showed in his dissertation at the University of Chicago decades ago that the shape of the bond yield curve was linked to the path of US economic activity.“My yield-curve indicator has gone code red, and it’s 8 for 8 in forecasting recessions since 1968 — with no false alarms,” Harvey, now a professor at Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business, said in a interview Tuesday. “I have reasons to believe, however, that it is flashing a false signal.”

Hahaha even the person who created the idea of yield curve inversions says this time is different.

KNEEL

[Anonymous No.53175993]

>>53175867
Face value going up implies yield going down. For that case it looks inconclusive as it just followed the stock price.

[Anonymous No.53176048]

>tech sector supposedly dying and laying off countless people
>meanwhile in reality everyone I know can't find enough software engineers
I feel like this is a purge of the "tech" jobs and not actual tech.

[Anonymous No.53176061]

>>53175718
Why would you be in UDOW now of all times?

[Anonymous No.53176065]

GameStop Corp. is acquiring Buy Buy BABY in January of 2023.
Prepare your positions accordingly.

[Anonymous No.53176075]

>>53175978
My worry there would be that with corporate debt-to-gdp this high you may get caught up in a deflationary crunch if you buy junk bonds. If indebted companies rush for financing at the same time as liquidity dries up, idk if you can get rid of the bonds you bought. I don't know much about bond trading though, so it's your risk analysis that goes of course.

[Anonymous No.53176090]

>>53175680
You can do puts and calls on bond funds. That would have been a good play at Jan 2022. Check any bond fund and then imagine you got a put on it. BND is an example.
>>53175867
Price and yield are related. One goes up, the other goes down. So a low price would be a high yield because its facing bankruptcy, so buying the bond and holding to maturity would give you a higher rate since you bought it below 100. But if they go bankrupt they may not give you anything in liquidation. So you dont get the yield anyway. Its not really worth it imo. Find coupon payments and decent bonds from good corps or treasuries and collect the payments.

[Anonymous No.53176091]

>>53176061
UDOW+SQQQ is a bet that industrials will outperform tech, not that the market will go up or down

[Anonymous No.53176102]

THE STOCK MARKET WENT UP 1% YESTERDAY AND 2% TODAY
PLEASE TELL ME IT WILL GO DOWN AGAIN

[Anonymous No.53176112]

>>53175669
Buy both at the same time. I have made 9k in the past 3 months doing this. Its the perfect crab strat

[Anonymous No.53176115]

>>53175560
Charles Schwab, also I could just be reading it wrong. I do see total unrealized, and it shows like $5. Makes sense that that is my gains.
English also but I'm still new to investing so terminology may be a bit wonky.
>>53175550
My broker is Schwab, I don't remember seeing the term margin anywhere.

[Anonymous No.53176135]

>>53175867
the stock payments are going to be set values
like a reit that gives out rent money, the actual stock price doesn't matter compared to the payment out

if the stock goes down, the yield does go up but that doesn't matter, it's not like bonds

[Anonymous No.53176148]

got banned from /vg/ for 3 days because i talked about (((them))) in the elden ring board.

anyways, what are you guys buying recently? or are you all still infinitely bearish (forever)?

[Anonymous No.53176151]

>>53176112
We should start an ETF called CQQQ, which would be half SQQQ and TQQQ
Then we could save one row in our portfolio

[Anonymous No.53176153]

>>53176048
Its not really a purge unless AMZN/AWS stock price plunges below $70 and they have to sell of subsidiaries like whole foods and Twitch to buy back their market value kek.

[Anonymous No.53176157]

[Anonymous No.53176166]

>US likely to head for an economic soft landing, the White House has said.
Black (green) monday confirmed

[Anonymous No.53176167]

>>53176102
>And why do YOU have so much MORE money then?

[Anonymous No.53176171]

[Anonymous No.53176178]

>>53176157
exaggerated bear posts are so tiresome. it's honestly like im on stocktwits when im here sometimes.

>good stock
>at $63
>"UHHHH IM A BUYER AT $1 HAHA"

it's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.53176183]

>>53176148
/vg/ is super omega cucked. The mods there suck absolute ass and will ban you from all boards for even saying the words "Jewish" when talking about Journalists and their behavior and early life.
Stick to /v/ unless you want to be banned for wrongthink on fucken 4chan.

[Anonymous No.53176189]

>>53176167
The way the guy on the left reacts is so unnerving to me. Jews freak me the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.53176202]

>>53175989
This article always pops up at market tops.
extremely bearish

[Anonymous No.53176203]

>>53176157
>someone with screenshots pre-2020
wow, and almost half a decade ago too

[Anonymous No.53176207]

>>53175993
sorry i meant share price of the bond - why would the bond yield follow the stock price though

[Anonymous No.53176209]

>>53176203

[Anonymous No.53176213]

>>53171700
He’s an mRNA shill

[Anonymous No.53176229]

>>53176203

[Anonymous No.53176236]

>>53176189
What's interesting is that the way he phrases the question shows that he's completely aware Jews run all of these media channels, and yet he can be completely outraged that the other guy notices it. I've noticed this happening with Jews I know sometimes, that they're hyper-aware of who is and who isn't a jew, what they run, etc., and sometimes almost flaunt this knowledge, but then get outraged if gentiles start to ask questions.
A semi-related and bizarre example was the SNL monologue by Larry David (a jew) where he literally asked 'why are sexual predators seemingly all jews these days?' and of course the result was impotent laughter by the audience, which is not allowed to ask this question itself

[Anonymous No.53176237]

I enjoy feeling like a sophisticated investor but if you were to press me on my strategy it'd be "going with my gut".

[Anonymous No.53176243]

>>53176090
>Find coupon payments and decent bonds from good corps or treasuries and collect the payments.

right, i understand the inverse correlation between bond price and bond yield, i didnt clarify. if you're going to buy a corp bond, the yield has to be meaningfully greater than just buying US Treasuries since you're assuming higher risk

bottom row: i'm looking at a ~28 month AAPL bond @ 2.4% - whats the point of that when i can buy a 2 YR UST @ 4.25%?

[Anonymous No.53176250]

[Anonymous No.53176262]

>>53176243
>han just buying US Treasuries since you're assuming higher risk
You are correct. There isnt quite the adjustment in corp debt yet to account for new rates by fed. Gundlach is a big bond trader and he said similar, to avoid corp debt until they out pace treasuries.

[Anonymous No.53176263]

>>53175497
You don't "lose money" until you sell stock that is down. Brokerages will still show you your "net worth" which represents how much money you could get if you just sold everything at that monet. It's very common for new investors to think they've lost money when that net worth shows negative, but you don't actually lose money until you sell.

And that money after being sold gets turned into something very liquid and "dollar like" for the brokerage. It's not actual dollars (cause they aren't a bank) and for Fidelity which I use they put it into spaxx which is a money market fund. It will pretty much always be equal to a dollar and so "pulling money out" you're "selling" your shares in the fund.

[Anonymous No.53176286]

>>53176263
All my normie friends were freaking out about 15% losses on their index funds last year, and were incredulous when I told them they hadn't actually lost any money yet
Tbh the technically correct way to think about it is that you lose all your money the moment you buy a stock, you in fact hand over your cash to get an asset back.

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[Anonymous No.53176298]

>>53176229
this post should be in kindergarten

[Anonymous No.53176304]

>>53176207
That was just that specific example, I am not totally sure what the correlation is. Here's a BA one that is mismatched https://finra-markets.morningstar.com/BondCenter/BondDetail.jsp?ticker=C2562&symbol=BA.IQ
>BA has a BBB- rating
How?! They're an essential company, basically a part of the US govt now.

[Anonymous No.53176309]

>>53176236
>What's interesting is that the way he phrases the question shows that he's completely aware Jews run all of these media channels, and yet he can be completely outraged that the other guy notices it.

the demoralizing thing for me is that we all know it and it's out in the open, even, and yet there's not a goddamn thing any of us can do about it. literally our best bet was WWII and that failed stupendously. now the white man has been grifted for all of his empathy and caring for his fellow man for 70 years and here we are. in hell.

(((they))) won. the island has been conquered. anyone who actually knows wtf is going on know this and yet we just have to keep living and going to work every day despite it. there's literally nothing we can do. if you want to try to counter my argument i'd honestly love to hear it, please go ahead counter me. make me believe this isn't the case.

[Anonymous No.53176321]

>>53176243
You need to check the issue dates. That may have been issued when rates were not 4%. Bonds durations can span multiple decades so something maturing a few years from now may have been issued a long time ago. That's why I am desperate for a screener that sorts on issue date. I need to know what bonds issued last year were trying to yield so I can place more effective trades.

[Anonymous No.53176325]

>>53176203
>2017
>almost half a decade ago
Anon, we're in 2023

[Anonymous No.53176338]

>>53176309
The only counter is that their greed will destroy their own system, but we all have to suffer as they do it. Typically when the system collapses they move on to another host, but now that the world economy is so globalized there is no where else to subvert.
Basically we all go down together.

[Anonymous No.53176345]

>>53176321
>ou need to check the issue dates. That may have been issued when rates were not 4%
good point

[Anonymous No.53176350]

>>53176325
you are right, I am retarded, I thought it was 4.5, not 5.5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.53176364]

>>53176338
>The only counter is that...
>we all go down together.

That's not a counter. That's the problem. That's the apocalypse. That's not a "counter" that's a "we all die and I guess they die too lmao", that's not a fucking counter dude.

[Anonymous No.53176373]

>>53176207
bond price and yield are inversed. As prices rise yields fall and vice versa. This isn't the same for stocks

[Anonymous No.53176387]

>had the south won
>we would have eventually genocided blacks in america as old farm equipment after industrialization happened in the south
>north kept the niggers

REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.53176396]

>>53176364
Well then I got nothing anon. Sorry.
The best thing you can do is to have a tiny, secret place in the country that can last you 3-4 years if shit ever goes to hell. That way you don't die when it happens.

[Anonymous No.53176401]

>>53176309
Well, they're too arrogant for their own good, and what they do is mostly driven by resentment and grudges, it's not some diabolical Over-man scheme in which they're always 5 steps ahead (it just seems that way because of their high IQ). From time to time jews literally go online on Twitter to say that 'all jews know that we can never be safe if America is majority white', these people have no OPSEC at all. Historically, it always goes (somewhat comically) wrong for them, hence the endless expulsions and attacks. They cannot really help themselves.

[Anonymous No.53176405]

>>53176373
thats what i was saying - if anything the stock would probably go down if yields are going up materially b/c of bankruptcy risk rising and the equity market is noticing. otherwise there's not a direct correlation

[Anonymous No.53176406]

>>53176309
There are definitely places where the Jews don’t rule (Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska and all of southern/western Colorado). Now that the blacks have woken up to the JQ it’s only a matter of time before libs have to pick “muh holobunga” or “muh niggers”. My guess is they go with niggers.

[Anonymous No.53176415]

>>53176401
like i said: (((they))) won. if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. that's why i'm here.

[Anonymous No.53176427]

>>53176406
>Now that the blacks have woken up to the JQ
Have they though? Remember, Kanye is literally mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.53176432]

>>53176406
Most turned on Kayne within the day he spoke up, even though he said nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.53176439]

>>53176406
>Now that the blacks have woken up

Ye got cancelled, I'm gonna need further convincing here my dude. I've seen buck breaking my dude, i know what they believe. and now so will some other anons:

>https://www.bitchute.com/video/KVTMyg6x7V4f/

[Anonymous No.53176447]

>>53171524

bottoms in when (You) go heavy short

[Anonymous No.53176452]

>>53176415
Interestingly, there's an anti-semitic essay around by a German from 1880 or something where he claimed the Jews won and had subjected the Germans forever, who were interested in 'idealism' whereas the Jews were collectivist and therefore could not be beaten. He claimed that their control of the media made any gentile self-organization impossible. He predicted a violent revolution in Russia (kek) but otherwise things did not proceed as he had foreseen, of course.

[Anonymous No.53176460]

>>53176406
>Now that the blacks have woken up
You think those monkeys have any critical thinking abilities....... ngmi

[Anonymous No.53176521]

>>53175630
Do you have any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.53176531]

Baking!!!

>>53176512
>>53176512
>>53176512

Baked!!!

[Anonymous No.53176626]

>>53176452
>Interestingly, there's an anti-semitic essay around by a German from 1880 or something

was it Nietzsche?

[Anonymous No.53176643]

I think the fed sticks to their guns at least until either employment or inflation expectations really roll over.
They don't want a repeat of the 1966 situation, they don't even really want a repeat of 1971.

It is possible that employment drops soon and suddenly though.
Things will move quickly when they move, and at that point bad news will
quickly be bad news again.

[Anonymous No.53176650]

>>53176460
they don't, they just start flailing and burning things, this time though they might flail at and burn the right things

[Anonymous No.53176738]

>>53176643
good. then they'll finally do QE again and stocks will moon, and i'll make money. until then, i have a recession proof do-nothing tech job makin' bucks, so i'm happy. bring on the recession, im good. and if you're wondering, my job is really fucking boring, but it mostly involves doing fuck-all for extended periods of time and my boss tells me "people find it boring and it's hard to hire or the ones we do hire move on quickly to something more interesting", so i'm all set. P.S. i day trade at work on a regular basis and no one cares. no one fucking cares, it's fucking surreal i don't even know how to feel about it but im gonna take it for all its worth.

[Anonymous No.53176928]

>>53176738
>i have a recession proof do-nothing tech job
lmao

[Anonymous No.53177017]

>>53176928
like i said: necessary job that it's hard to find people to do, and the people they do find typically get a job someplace else quickly because it's universally considered "boring". but i personally enjoy "boring", so i win. GG.