/smg/ stock market general

[Anonymous No.53117578]

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://finra-markets.morningstar.com/BondCenter/Default.jsp
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First of many AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA's to come soon enough

[Anonymous No.53117590]

WTFWT

[Anonymous No.53117597]

>natgas

[Anonymous No.53117598]

SOXL sisters you must suffer more pain with the gme baggies

[Anonymous No.53117600]

>>53117578
BOIL is literally $15 lmao i can afford to lose that in the chance that it pumps one day ever

[Anonymous No.53117603]

I told you niggers like 5 times about NFLX puts

[Anonymous No.53117606]

>>53117578
I sold all my TSLA today.

Somebody reassure me I made the right move please.

[Anonymous No.53117608]

anyone know how I can create an options trade that's vega neutral?

[Anonymous No.53117616]

WHOA BLACK BETTY

[Anonymous No.53117618]

You are sizing your bets with the Kelly criterion, right Anon?

[Anonymous No.53117624]

And I told you about JNUG and SILX on Friday

[Anonymous No.53117626]

>buy puts on meme companies riding the green day
>immediately make money when reality sets back in

wow never knew it was this easy

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53117634]

Nobody knows who I was or what I did in the last thread.

[Anonymous No.53117638]

>SOXS
you push it

[Anonymous No.53117641]

You never learn mumu

[Anonymous No.53117643]

>>53117626
i bag hold this company at a 9 dollar average and I feel like shit I couldnt fathom being one of these retards who bought at 20+

[Anonymous No.53117648]

TLT chads and Bobo are friends again

[Anonymous No.53117650]

What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.53117651]

>>53117618
never heard of it

[Anonymous No.53117664]

>>53117643
It'll be $9 again after it reverse splits at $3

[Anonymous No.53117668]

Im so tempted to buy more natty gas.
My brain is screaming but my heart tells me it will go up

[Anonymous No.53117669]

Is there something like the options calculator but for non-options futures (leverage)?

[Anonymous No.53117672]

red ytd

[Anonymous No.53117673]

>>53117668
Why are so many people here utterly retarded with natgas? It was a historical unnatural high it is never returning to

[Anonymous No.53117679]

mumu can enjoy sucking the shit straight out my ass with a straw

[Anonymous No.53117680]

I solded my TMF

[Anonymous No.53117682]

why the FUCK are we dipping again?

[Anonymous No.53117687]

>>53117682
cheapies :)

[Anonymous No.53117695]

Regardless of your wealth, be a light in someone's life. If the media wanted you to be scared and afraid all the time, be happy and positive. Be a light in a dark world.

[Anonymous No.53117698]

who knew buying shitco's trading at 40x earnings heading into a recession was a bad idea

[Anonymous No.53117699]

>TSLA
>he fell for the dead cat bounce

[Anonymous No.53117700]

>>53117608
Synthetic futures. Credit and debit spreads can be fairly vega neutral too.

[Anonymous No.53117707]

>>53117682

[Anonymous No.53117709]

>>53117682
Big spike before last close. Market wasn't done making a poopoo.

[Anonymous No.53117712]

massive rejection for recovery on natgas

short it

[Anonymous No.53117714]

>>53117673
It's hypothesized that because A (number) has gone down then B (future number) must go up

[Anonymous No.53117715]

>>53117673
I will buy 1
ONE
BOIL
If this $15 buys me a nice dinner one day, I'll be happy
This must be how i cope with my gambling addiction

[Anonymous No.53117717]

Happy fucking New Year chuds.

[Anonymous No.53117725]

>we couldn't last literally 30 minutes before the bear rugging started again

fooking hell lads strap in 2023 is going to be wild

[Anonymous No.53117730]

>black monday

[Anonymous No.53117733]

[Anonymous No.53117737]

>>53117682
because now it is the New Year
it would hurt the bottom line of too many professionals to have the 2022 year dump to the ultimate target near 3300 SPX
more money, more bonuses, more opportunity to maximize tax benefits if they can draw it out into two years
Take a look at the move that happened 2008 to 2009
when the New Year begins, the new wave of selling can begin - won't hurt their books as much & now they are better positioned, so they can then buy the (imminent) capitulation moment

[Anonymous No.53117738]

MUMU FUCKING SHITS

[Anonymous No.53117740]

>BOIL
Oof. Poor natgas anons...

[Anonymous No.53117742]

>>53117725
Macros cant be ignored and bobo wins again :^]

[Anonymous No.53117753]

I'm not buying anything until at least June. We'll bottom out by then, right?

[Anonymous No.53117754]

THE NEW BULL MARKETS LAST 30 MINUTES!

[Anonymous No.53117756]

>>53117730
THE ZOMMA HURRICANE

[Anonymous No.53117766]

>cope chan

[Anonymous No.53117777]

>>53117753
imagine her dancing on a BBC like that

[Anonymous No.53117779]

A SANTA RALLY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!

[Anonymous No.53117785]

a lot of people are gonna get wiped the fuck out this year lmao

[Anonymous No.53117792]

soooooooooooo no santa rally?

[Anonymous No.53117793]

Wtf /smg/ you guys told me it wasn't real

[Anonymous No.53117796]

>>53117777
American moment.
Checked but

[Anonymous No.53117798]

>Going from up 5% to red as soon as the markets open
Who the fuck wants the markets to behave this way?? How much more clearly unfair could it be? Fucking absurd

[Anonymous No.53117799]

>>53117753
Yeah probably
the week leading up to / during the week of the June expiration
bottom near 3300 SPX between June 7th - June 14th
the June expiration will be huge, and all the puts that will be exercised will create a floor
similar to the move in 2022
could also happen in May, but the June expiry is more likely
Federal funds futures / Fed watch tool believes May / June pivot
I personally am not buying anything until then, just building up the dry powder for the inevitable move

[Anonymous No.53117800]

>>53117792
YEAH IT'S HERE BUD JUST TURN YOUR CHART UPSIDE DOWN!

[Anonymous No.53117807]

>>53117785
>didn't get wiped out, last year
>2023 gonna be the tail end of being gangraped by fed boomers
Yeah, I think I can handle it ^_~
>>53117792
I mean, maybe 2023 santa rally?

[Anonymous No.53117814]

short natgas

it got rejected again

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53117817]

Wow, I thought we were going to get a green day to start the new year to give everybody some confidence for the new year, but everybody remembers, that there's going to be a huge die off in population from the vaccine, Joe Biden is still selling the country out for his personal game, the lamestream mainstream media is still a corrupt piece of shit and cover's for their boy at every step. inflation is still at 40 year highs, and people aren't able to afford what little food is left on the shelves.

[Anonymous No.53117818]

I called it, scam pump into fat dump.

[Anonymous No.53117825]

>>53117792
Party at the North Pole, bulls cannot take the cold

[Anonymous No.53117827]

I shorted netflix's bottom

[Anonymous No.53117830]

>>53117817
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!

[Anonymous No.53117831]

Also, TSLA being down 9% purely on speculation is laughable. Could the assholes in charge make their bias just a tiny bit less obvious?

[Anonymous No.53117832]

Fuck this gay ass market

[Anonymous No.53117835]

I sharted the scam pump in UPST this morning
but I should've went harder

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53117838]

>>53117817
oh yeah and WWIII

[Anonymous No.53117839]

>>53117827
>d the weck
what did his ID mean by this?

[Anonymous No.53117841]

>spy crabbing while xyz tech shitco takes -10% hits every other day
its all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.53117843]

>>53117831
No. You will own nothing and you will be happy.

[Anonymous No.53117846]

2023 gameplan:
1. hold treasury bonds until the market has a full capitulation moment
2. sell treasury bonds and buy investment grade corporate debt + preferred stock at a big discount
3. ride the crab until the money printer is turned back on

[Anonymous No.53117859]

>>53117831
>TSLA being down 9% purely on speculation
what in the fuck are you on about son
the market has been waiting for Tesla deliveries with laser focus for a month, and they just published them yesterday
the market expected 425-450K and they delivered 405K
Tesla had a ridiculous multiple because they were growing 50%+ a year
It is now evident that the pace is slowing, and is likely to get worse as the global recession grows
This results in a lower multiple, lower price of Tesla shares
if you didn't know about the deliveries.. you should not be investing in Tesla stock, are you clearly way out of the fucking loop

[Anonymous No.53117865]

Is it officially time for all of the boomer safety stocks to have their 75% correction?

[Anonymous No.53117872]

>BRCC the only thing keeping my folio green this morning
Fuck you Bobo

[Anonymous No.53117873]

>>53117846
what is the easiest way to buy treasuries? I have a Vanguard and Fidelity account.

[Anonymous No.53117879]

>>53117643
>he bought the hobbit bags

[Anonymous No.53117880]

>>53117865
Not yet, wont happen until they die. Governments, markets, ect literally do everything and anything they can to protect the biggest block of people that actually vote and have money

[Anonymous No.53117881]

>>53117831
(((They))) are using Tesla as an example to not fuck with NWO globohomo, same as they did to Trump and then Ye. Tesla is the only avenue (((they))) had to fuck with Elon for destroying one of their big 3 propaganda outlets and showing everyone that he FBI, DHS, CIA are in complete control of social media shilling for the left

[Anonymous No.53117887]

>>53117873
the easiest way is just to buy them from the treasury website directly
but you can also buy them from your broker(s)

[Anonymous No.53117889]

2023 is off to a perfect start, just need a day like this every day until march

[Anonymous No.53117888]

>>53117865
Yes. The market has been stubborn and wanted to keep buying the dip so it cycled out of tech and into value stocks. Now value stocks are way over valued heading into a recession of unknown duration and severity.

[Anonymous No.53117891]

ROBERT, IT DO GO DOWN

[Anonymous No.53117895]

>>53117865
It's happening

[Anonymous No.53117898]

Amerishits dumping the market again. When they can't trade everything is blossoming.

[Anonymous No.53117908]

>>53117859
Yeah exactly, speculation. They missed sales by less than 5% and apparently that means the company is going to fold? Lmao.

>>53117881
Could it be any more obvious though? Like I already thought the level of anti-Elon "news" was embarrassing, this is just ridiculous

[Anonymous No.53117909]

>he actually expected to make money by parking his money in broad market long positions
hahahaha how foolish and silly

[Anonymous No.53117910]

Smg has changed. I feel it in the posts, i smell it in the posters. Much value of what once had been investable has been lost.

[Anonymous No.53117912]

>>53117881
Also Alex Jones really was the trial reun of what happens when you Shoah someone popular off all social media in the same day for absolutely no reason

[Anonymous No.53117911]

Everyone wanted good numbers today to justify the pumpage over the weekend and give everyone an excuse to sustain it through EOD. Instead manufacturing PMI was on point and construction spending was a lot spicier than anticipated. This now colors people's expectation of the employment numbers coming out tomorrow, and of course fed minutes are looming large in everyone's mind too. The meme pump has been put on ice and it'll be downonly for the remainder of the day. If job numbers are soft tomorrow it'll be a fun day of volatility as retards simultaneously try to buy a january rally while other retards try to sell off ahead of the fed minutes.

[Anonymous No.53117914]

the 1 minute chart on nvda is kinda fucking funny

[Anonymous No.53117920]

>>53117888
my thoughts also, those are the new bubble, and oil stocks

[Anonymous No.53117922]

>>53117872
>BRCC
>literally just mediocre coffee
>share price only ever drops
Lmao please say you ALSO bought the top on Luckin Coffee. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.53117927]

>>53117578
2023 is gonna be a meltdown at this rate
No hope
This time is really different bros

[Anonymous No.53117929]

>>53117910
>slowpoke.jpg
everyone got wiped out last ear

[Anonymous No.53117934]

>>53117910
ah yes the high quality PLTR AQB WKHS Cielo cheerleaders are sorely missed.

[Anonymous No.53117935]

>>53117910

[Anonymous No.53117937]

>>53117929
>doesnt get reference

I h a t e nonwhites

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53117941]

>>53117910
at least one faggot started cross posting our threads onto The Reddit and now those faggots have come here and gave this place the gay.

[Anonymous No.53117943]

>>53117934
dont forget the rycey gang

[Anonymous No.53117953]

>>53117941
that was you, wasn't it.

[Anonymous No.53117956]

>>53117873
>what is the easiest way to buy treasuries?
Buy them through ETFs. Here are some good ones to check out:
>BIL
1-3 month treasury bills. Basically zero risk because of the duration. right now has a 4% yield
>SCHO
1-3 year treasury notes. Low risk because of it's duration and because yields are near their highs
>SCHR
3-10 year notes
>GOVT
1-30 year mix of treasury notes and bonds. The average duration is about 7 years I think.
>TLT
Long duration bonds. This has huge price swings and you can lose a lot of money if you're not careful

[Anonymous No.53117957]

>>53117846
>>53117873
which one do I buy? help a retarded brother out.

[Anonymous No.53117959]

>>53117943
: ( I blame the chinese.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53117965]

>>53117953
fuck no, i don't go to the reddit anymore after they b& me from world news for calling obama a stupid fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.53117968]

>>53117929
It's gonna be over for me if this year is a repeat as well t.b.h
I might actually have to get a fucking job
I was honest to fucking God just fucking kidding
I don't want to work ever again they can't make me
This isd fuckingh buLlSHIT

[Anonymous No.53117970]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53117973]

>>53117908
>Yeah exactly, speculation
you keep using this word.. I do not think you know what it means
publishing their numbers, saying how many vehicles they delivered is not 'speculation'
they failed to meet expectations
the market had priced their stock as if they were making 425-450K deliveries
they delivered 405K
if they had delivered 450K, the stock would have rallied
the market had 'speculated' that Tesla would continue to grow 50%+ a year
now the hard data comes out, destroying this speculation, that they are NOT growing at 50%+ a year
>apparently that means the company is going to fold
this is not what it means when a stock price falls.
I cannot face palm harder.
Tesla is still valued at $380 billion
Ford is valued at $46 billion
I am not denying Tesla's zero debt, Tesla's growth potential, the conversion to electric cars, that they are a great company that will still be around 10 years from now
You are conflating VALUE with PRICE
that because the price of the stock is going down, that the company is going bankrupt
that isn't how it works, isn't what it means
Think about it like this
I try to sell you a banana for $50
>what the fuck! A banana isn't worth $50!
>why would I pay $50 for a banana!
Are you saying that bananas are shit?
Are you saying that bananas are toxic?
Are you saying that you will never eat a banana ever again?
No. You're saying that the price of $50 is too much for a banana.

[Anonymous No.53117975]

>>53117957
> help a retarded brother out.
If you want to keep it easy just buy SCHO or BIL, set dividends to reinvest and let the fund do the work for you.

[Anonymous No.53117976]

My jew years resolution is to hit 200 on the bench press and 250 on the deadlift

[Anonymous No.53117978]

What is TSLA's fair value?

[Anonymous No.53117980]

fuck as soon as I closed my AMD short it collapsed like an NFL player

[Anonymous No.53117984]

>>53117968
>It's gonna be over for me if this year is a repeat as well t.b.h
you could just adapt (retard)

Me, I'm waiting to slurp Lumber futures.

[Anonymous No.53117986]

A recovery is possible

[Anonymous No.53117988]

>>53117968
Id honestly just hold and sell calls if you're in dividend stocks

[Anonymous No.53117990]

Nasdaq.com/refunds

[Anonymous No.53117992]

>>53117976
that's an absurdly weak deadlift to bench ratio

[Anonymous No.53117998]

>>53117976
>200 on the bench press and 250 on the deadlift
Please be kg....
>>53117978
$30/share

[Anonymous No.53118001]

>>53117968
The dumps will continue until you capitulate.

[Anonymous No.53118002]

>>53117606
Classic biz
Never change

[Anonymous No.53118005]

>>53117908
>could it be any more obvious
That’s the point they don’t give a fuck how in your face their corruption and how tyrannical they’ve become anymore. Look at what’s happened over the last 2 years, they straight up will tell you a shit sandwich and tell you nutritious it is for you

[Anonymous No.53118010]

>>53117980
Thanks for playing

[Anonymous No.53118016]

>>53117992
>>53117998
i'm 5'11 and 135lbs and just started lifting weights come on bro

[Anonymous No.53118024]

>>53117978
10-15 dollars. Tesla's growth is horribly overestimated. The market for their products is not huge and there are unavoidable supply limitations to even continued linear growth, much less exponential.

[Anonymous No.53118025]

>>53117956
>>53117873
By the way Vanguard has it's own versions of most of these ETFs like VGSH if you'd prefer to use those

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118026]

You guys know it'll turn around once Jerome pivots and prints some more of that cash for all his friends on the wall streets.

[Anonymous No.53118031]

>>53117831
This market would be absolutely miserable if TSLA wasn't crashing. Knowing that all those tesla "investors" are getting fucked even harder is the only thing that gives me solace.

[Anonymous No.53118033]

>>53117978
p/e ratio of 20ish, so about $60~80

[Anonymous No.53118038]

>>53118016
>5'11

oh no no no HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.53118043]

>>53118016
lmao you have to be 18 to post here
your bench goal is unrealistic

[Anonymous No.53118045]

>>53118016
>i'm 5'11 and 135lbs
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N
>>53118026
That will only happen is CPI reading continue to come in lower (which they will)

[Anonymous No.53118052]

>>53118016
when will they learn?

[Anonymous No.53118053]

>>53118016
>5'11 and 135lbs

[Anonymous No.53118056]

>>53118016
>5'11
shoulda eaten those beans, shorty

[Anonymous No.53118058]

>>53118043
Well I plan on bulking a bit

[Anonymous No.53118062]

>lanklets

How do you people exist

[Anonymous No.53118068]

>NFL player's heart explodes from the jab
>MRNA pumps
another day of fun jewish games

[Anonymous No.53118075]

>>53118068
think how much worse it would have been if he wasn't jabbed!

[Anonymous No.53118079]

Spy vottom is 2220

[Anonymous No.53118078]

>>53117119
I told you about it, my ass foreshadowed it. I didn't want to see you get HOOKed, and you may be HOOKed

[Anonymous No.53118083]

>TESL-ACK!!!!

[Anonymous No.53118084]

>>53118016
You need to eat like WAY way more
You need to gain weight if you want to see any results

[Anonymous No.53118085]

I'm -12% in YANG but idgaf. I'm riding this shit to 0.

[Anonymous No.53118092]

>>53118079
No
3300
3270 to be exact

[Anonymous No.53118096]

How can the market drop like a rock based on no news whatsoever

[Anonymous No.53118099]

>>53118084
Yeah that's the plan like at least 2500 calories of solid protein a day

[Anonymous No.53118106]

Stocks should not be going down, what the fuck is happening

[Anonymous No.53118109]

delayed santa rally it's coming in january

[Anonymous No.53118107]

>A LINE JUST WENT DOWN OVER MY HOUSE ON NO NEWS WHATSOEVER
A LINE JUST WENT DOWN OVER MY HOUSE ON NO NEWS WHATSOEVER
>A LINE JUST WENT DOWN OVER MY HOUSE ON NO NEWS WHATSOEVER

[Anonymous No.53118112]

all Brazil stocks are nearing historical lows again

[Anonymous No.53118116]

>>53118016
what are your current lifts?
how much total cals and protein are you eating a day?
What's your best and worst investment of 2022?

[Anonymous No.53118121]

>>53118085
I'll never understand what compels you guys to light money on fire.
I'm up 130% on BILI.

[Anonymous No.53118127]

Let’s do this Reddit!!!!

[Anonymous No.53118134]

okay.
seriously.
what caused the big gap up and then what did cause the red candles since the opening?
>inb4 more buyers then sellers
i'm asking for "sentiment"

[Anonymous No.53118138]

>>53118096
>How can the market drop like a rock based on no news whatsoever
It's the New Year, new quarter
everyone's books 'reset'
they now have the ability to book more losses, have the ability to sell and not have the taxes immediately due in April
look at the 2008 - 2009 market cycle
look at how the market moved going into the New Year
VIX has been manipulated for all of 2022 to prevent the real capitulation move
now the cycle can continue
if they sell now, they can build up their dry powder so that they are ready to load up on cheapies at the May / June bottom

[Anonymous No.53118141]

>>53118121
Same here my chink stocks go up like hell.
Its like you dont even want to make money.

[Anonymous No.53118144]

>>53118096
>How can the market drop like a rock based on no news whatsoever
Well why was the market going up on worsening economic data and a Fed that keeps reconfirming their "higher for longer and you WILL feel pain" mantra? It depends on how you look at it. I could've said the same thing during the November pump.

[Anonymous No.53118145]

MOMMY DONT KNOW DADDYS GOT IT HARD

[Anonymous No.53118151]

>>53118116
I can do like 150 lbs on the bench I don't really do deadlift now so dunno

I normally eat like a banana for breakfast and a ham sandwich for lunch. Maybe some fast food for diner

Best - Pfizer
Worst - ARKK

[Anonymous No.53118153]

>>53118109
janaury of 2049 maybe

[Anonymous No.53118157]

>>53118121
Bilibili is the only company id invest in thats chink related due to gacha players

[Anonymous No.53118160]

>>53117975
I'm going in

[Anonymous No.53118163]

It was all going so well, WTF happened?
>inb4 the fed

[Anonymous No.53118167]

>>53118134
>big gap up
tax loss harvesting rebuys
>red candles
reality

[Anonymous No.53118171]

Uptick rule engaged on TSLA

[Anonymous No.53118173]

>>53118145
CRALLING IN MY SKIN!

[Anonymous No.53118174]

>>53118141
recommend me a chink stock that isnt BABA

[Anonymous No.53118175]

Is this all?

[Anonymous No.53118180]

>>53118033
>20 p/e
more like 10

[Anonymous No.53118183]

shit market not doing anything. and will correct 5% more at least before big upruns

[Anonymous No.53118186]

>>53118174
Jackie Chan!

[Anonymous No.53118190]

>>53118160
Good choice. Zero risk easy money delivered to you on the 7th of each month.

[Anonymous No.53118191]

>Literally no bearish news about NVDA, actually some bullish articles for once
>Tanks the most of all the semis
What the fuck is up with this shit? Why is NVDA the thing that gets shat on all the time?

[Anonymous No.53118192]

>>53118025
should I do VGSH or the shorter duration BIL? Ahhhhhh I'm too dumb for this

[Anonymous No.53118197]

I genuinely hope Tesla fails. Fuck electric cars.

[Anonymous No.53118202]

TLT is healing

[Anonymous No.53118203]

>>53118183
Hush, rat

[Anonymous No.53118205]

>>53118107
>NO NEWS
The news are terrible and they've been consistantly terrible for the last 3 years. Everything is unbelievably fundamentally overbought, those are the news.

You should be asking "why is the market avoiding triple circuit breakers on no news?"

[Anonymous No.53118207]

>>53118191

Check it’s P/E ratio retard. It’s a boomer market; high valuations get slaughtered. Banks are green today while Tesla is down 10%.

[Anonymous No.53118208]

>>53118191
Because the 4000 Series is a letdown, so the stock gets corrected

[Anonymous No.53118215]

drill baby drill

[Anonymous No.53118218]

it's really this fucking simple
>pic related
short the trend line
buy the bottom
don't fight the trend
don't fight the Fed
don't fight the crowd
if you are buying at any point that isn't the bottom of this trend, you are fucking up
yes, there will be bear market rallies
yes, there will be vicious 3%+ nasdaq days
but the bear market is not over
do not be retarded
be patient, bide your time
there is no need to be too early

[Anonymous No.53118220]

ELON bout to have to sell off. How long till he necks?

[Anonymous No.53118222]

TSLA chads.... who slurpin rn

[Anonymous No.53118225]

>>53118192
VGSH has slightly more risk/reward because it has a longer duration. If you want to keep your money absolutely safe with no chance of losing money then go with BIL. If you want a chance to make some extra gains from dropping yields then go for VGSH. You could also do a 50/50 BIL/VGSH.

[Anonymous No.53118226]

>>53118222
it would make zero sense to buy here
at least give it 3 day rule from the deliveries posted yesterday
but even then, it doesn't make sense to long TSLA (unless you're looking for a very short term bounce trade)

[Anonymous No.53118227]

>>53118218
>short the top
>buy the bottom
>it's really this fucking simple

[Anonymous No.53118230]

0dte spy calls

[Anonymous No.53118231]

>>53118222
nah

[Anonymous No.53118234]

BUDDY LOOK AT APPLE COMPUTER

[Anonymous No.53118235]

>>53118174
BILI
MOMO
DOYU
HUYA
YY
QD

Embrace the negatively valued Chinese shitcos.

[Anonymous No.53118238]

Can you fucking dickheads STOP FUCKING SELLING?

[Anonymous No.53118240]

>>53118227
yes
literally
that's all you have to do
if it touches that top line, you go short
if it goes lower than the last low, in line with the trend, you buy
it is so visible even a blind man can see it
you cannot fuck it up, as long as you are patient

[Anonymous No.53118241]

>>53118225
>>53118192
Tell me how much risk you want to take and I'll give you my suggestion

[Anonymous No.53118248]

>>53118174
Do your own homework you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.53118252]

>>53118180
Fine 10, which is similar to Ford, but the p/e helps put some sort of relative value to a stock

[Anonymous No.53118254]

>>53118240
I've been doing the same thing swingie chad

[Anonymous No.53118255]

who's in the room with you anon?

[Anonymous No.53118275]

>>53118241
not much risk desu senpai. I have that $61k in vanguard and another $30k in my Fidelity chilling in cash.

[Anonymous No.53118276]

>>53118222
bought some short term calls for funsies

[Anonymous No.53118280]

>>53118151
thank you mr skeleton
50lbs on bench is pretty aggressive but doable, remember to eat enough and sleep lots
usually skinny fucks like you aren't prepared to eat as much as they need to, so be ready to push yourself in that respect
whole milk, beef(decent steaks preferred), peanut butter and other caloric dense foods with some form of protein included are your friends
good luck

I lost money on ARKK too but made a bit on SU

[CoffeeGang No.53118281]

What the Fuck, someone else from eu and with the ING ?
Nothing is working and bugged like hell at such a beautiful down day today.
FUCK THIS GAY SHIT

[Anonymous No.53118285]

>>53118255
ants

my house is full of ants

[Anonymous No.53118292]

AAPLbuddies...

[Anonymous No.53118298]

>>53118255
just and my gf palmela anderson

[Anonymous No.53118302]

honestly I should just leave my account alone for a year, not make a single trade and just collect dividends and let all these holdings become long term

but then what would I say to all my frens here on /smg/ stock market general

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118308]

>>53118280
Do two happy side bitches count?

[Anonymous No.53118310]

>>53118183
dow is still only 4% off all time highs

Try 50%

[Anonymous No.53118311]

I miss the high volatility days of -11 on the spy to +7

[Anonymous No.53118312]

>>53118238
I am losing a lot of money

[Anonymous No.53118318]

Warning to bears that this thing is about to fucking explode. Close your shorts or shit up the next thread with your bitching and moaning

7% and 1% of VIX/DXY crush is an easy +2% day

[Anonymous No.53118323]

>>53118310
>Try 50%
But I don't really want to, can we just crab for a long time until the valuations are "right" instead?

[Anonymous No.53118329]

>>53118068
>NFL players take all kinds of bullshit to stay competitive
>but its the vax that kills them every time!

[Anonymous No.53118332]

Stop lurking, cowards

[Anonymous No.53118337]

>investors see market selling off
>they sell their most risky investments first
>they put this money into their 'safe' guaranteed plays
>megacaps - 'too big to fail'
>stocks like AAPL, MSFT
>the bear market cycles through
>all the risky stocks are already down 60-80%
>stocks like AAPL / MSFT became overvalued relative to the rest of the market
>too much capital had 'flight to safety' in these stocks
>the bear market continues
>the recession looms
>those stocks that became the life raft now become the burning ship
>they become an easy short target, as they are the only stocks still up
>investors who had flight to safety in these 'safe' stocks now panic
>they now panic sell their large caps
>this drives down the indices due to their ridiculous overweighting
>this drives down all stocks
>this leads to margin calls
>this leads to a vertical move down
>this leads to capitulation
>this leads to Fed pivot in June
>this leads to rally
Now you understand.
>>53118292

[Anonymous No.53118339]

>>53118323
yes, markets can correct in price or time

[Anonymous No.53118342]

>>53118332
im probably going to kill myself after I lost so much money with natural gas

[Anonymous No.53118345]

BABA bros
more tendies to come, this is just the beginning

[Anonymous No.53118347]

>>53118329
name the last time an NFL player had CPR done on the field.

[Anonymous No.53118348]

>>53118337
Correct, only anon in here with a brain

[Anonymous No.53118349]

>>53118337
Boomers dont care

Never check portfolios, lol

[Anonymous No.53118353]

>>53118225
so if I'm expecting the bond market to react positively to the next CPI print I should load up on VGSH? I'm thinking of doing my $61k in vanguard in BLI and the $30k in Fidelity in VGSH so I'm like 66% less risky and 33% more risky

[Anonymous No.53118362]

>>53118318
No.

[Anonymous No.53118363]

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL

[Anonymous No.53118368]

>>53118337
>Le pivooter
The fed wants a crash and will not bail it out and this is the correct strategy.

[Anonymous No.53118369]

>>53118275
Both options are safe. With BIL you will get a 4-5% yield until rates drop. With VGSH you will get smaller distributions (it holds older bonds at lower yields) but you will make money if the 2 year yield goes down and lose money if it goes up. 70% BIL and 30% VGSH could be a good option. Low risk but you'll make some extra money if the 2 year yield gets pushed down.

One other thing to think about: How long are you planning on holding these for? Until the market capitulates or will you need the money at some point? If you need the money in the near future then 100% BIL would be better because it'll be completely safe. But if you're going to hold for a while then you can take longer duration risk with VGSH

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118372]

>>53118342
I've seen natural gas wipe out so many people, but you shouldn't kill yourself over it.

[Anonymous No.53118374]

>>53118349
100% untrue
I just went to a wedding 2 weeks ago, where I got cornered into conversations with three different 60-70 year olds, as they know I trade for a living
Each one of them has been tracking their portfolio like a hawk this entire year
When you see yourself losing $100,000 in a year, you start paying attention
Nobody cares while the market is going up - they just keep passively investing - who cares to look at it continuing to go up and up
but when it's going down, it's a much different story
they are extremely involved - direct quote from one of the boomers
>Oh yeah, every morning 9 to 10 religiously I'm looking at my broker watching the markets

[Anonymous No.53118376]

>>53118318
No

[Anonymous No.53118384]

>>53118368
the crash will occur before the Fed pivot, in the first half of the year
then in the June Fed meeting they will cut rates

[Anonymous No.53118388]

>>53118374
So what are those boomers gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.53118391]

>>53117831
Tesla's fundamentals are the same as Microstrategies in 2001.

[Anonymous No.53118395]

>>53118349
If anything Zoomers are less concerned than Boomers right now. Zoomers have the excuse of well it'll be like 40+ years still I retire so whatever.

[Anonymous No.53118398]

>>53118374
They'll just open a reverse mortgage to lose their house and saddle their children with debt to make up for the loss. Only 2% of boomers check their shit

[Anonymous No.53118403]

>>53118372
I dont know man, im feeling like killing myself after losing for an entire year on every position and I have nothing in life anyway

[Anonymous No.53118408]

>>53118388
panic
buy bonds
most of them were talking to me about REITs, as they're trying to generate cash to live off of through dividends
I didn't know how to tell them that real estate, especially commercial real estate, was likely to shit the bed extremely hard

[Anonymous No.53118415]

>>53118369
Thanks bro
>One other thing to think about: How long are you planning on holding these for?
I am basically waiting for the bottom right now to throw all my cash either into VTI/some safe index fund or buy my first home (likely the former until the housing market fully craters)

[Anonymous No.53118419]

>>53118403
might as well join the army or something before killing yourself. maybe you'll find what you are looking for in life

[Anonymous No.53118422]

>>53118403
can i have yor xbox when you kys

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118425]

>>53118347
it wasn't the vaccine, it was the 5 point heart exploding technique, he gets up and clearly takes 5 steps before his heart exploded.

[Anonymous No.53118435]

>>53118353
Yes. It works like this: imagine you hold a 2 year treasury note that yields 4%. The next day the Fed cuts rates to zero and 2 year treasury notes suddenly yield nothing. You can then sell your 4% note for a big profit because new notes aren't yielding anything.

The same works in reverse if rates go up. If CPI comes in really hot then the bond market will demand higher yields. That same 4% note you bought will have a lower value because new notes will yield more.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118437]

>>53118403
It's just one year. Unless you got vaccinated you should have at least another 25 more easily.

[Anonymous No.53118438]

>>53118374
Boomers should be holding so much cash / savings accounts they shouldn’t care about the stock market going down 20%

[Anonymous No.53118439]

>TSLA slurp
And I'll do it again next week. Don't get hooked.

[Anonymous No.53118445]

Dare I say this market is, ahem, fake and gay?

[Anonymous No.53118454]

>>53118445
mmm’hm yes

[Anonymous No.53118457]

>>53118438
imagine you invested your whole life for your retirement
you retire
your portfolio loses $200,000 in a single year
you lose 1/5th of everything you worked for your whole life, in a single year
>yeah, well, boomers are rich!
it doesn't matter how rich you are, losing 20% of your wealth is going to sting
especially since boomers are used to the
>just 60-40 portfolio bro!!
and bonds had their worst year, ever

[Anonymous No.53118460]

>>53118376
>>53118362

Your funeral

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118472]

>>53118457
Actually since they're closer to retirement, their fund managers probably put more into bonds.

[Anonymous No.53118476]

I AM RECOOOOOVERING

[Anonymous No.53118496]

>>53118016
>i'm 5'11 and 135lbs

[Anonymous No.53118499]

>>53118457
that's not really how it works though, you stayed in the market and let's say earned 500,000 over 200,000. then you lose 20%. it's not that bad compared to putting in all your earned from income money of $200,000 and losing 20% of that.
>>53118472
Bonds lost ~15-20% anyway due to inflation. It was the perfect storm to rape retirement accounts this year. Only people who were safe were those with like 30/30/30 stocks bonds dividends

[Anonymous No.53118509]

>>53118374
Is this a joke? All the boomies I know have such insanely low averages on most stocks that a small recession is actually welcome since they get to buy even more.
Hell, most people I know have Apple at 20-30 bucks, collecting divvies and so on.
If you are that desperate as a 60-70 year old, then wtf have you been doing for the past 30 years on the market? Literally just HODL and watch the market go up and up

[Anonymous No.53118511]

>>53118457
Well it went up 20% in 2021 so likely no big deal

[Anonymous No.53118512]

it scoops here?

[Anonymous No.53118516]

I just bought $61k of BIL and $30k of VGSH. Wish me luck bros
No longer cash gang

[Anonymous No.53118518]

>>53118499
literally work for 2-5 more years, big deal
people who can't comfy retire in their 50s are retarded anyway, especially if you live in a 1st world country where you already won the lottery by being born in the right place at the right time

[Anonymous No.53118522]

>>53118460
Just because a stock is 10% down doesn't mean it has to go back up
Sometimes... It goes down another 10%, especially with a reckless retard like Elon in tow
Fucktard

[Anonymous No.53118523]

Intel and cameco puts are losing value to theta boys... i'm in

[Anonymous No.53118524]

>>53118499
>it's not that bad
people don't look at it that way
if their portfolio grows to $1,000,000 - that's "their money"
they're not thinking "eh, it's the house money, I made a lot of gains, it's okay if it falls 20%"
lol.
no!
if it falls $200,000, they lost $200,000
of course it stings less for someone with $1,000,000 to lose $200,000 than someone with $10,000 to lose $5,000 -- but it is still a brutal fucking loss, that is hurting both their finances and their emotional state
and this affects their decision making

[Anonymous No.53118529]

>03 bottom in march
>2008 crash bottom in march
>2020 crash bottom in march
>2023 crash bottom in...

Holy fucking shit I just solved the market.

[Anonymous No.53118530]

>>53118524
well that's on their advisor to teach them how it works. they took on x amount of risk to earn that money, without the risk of losing 20% in a year they would have never made any of that money. plenty of people get that but i can understand the sting of it anyway.

[Anonymous No.53118533]

>>53118529
all my puts are for march and april

[thoracictraumafag5000 No.53118536]

>>53118425

That was a legit hard hit due to being pushed into it. Easy to crack a rib or clavicle. This would be the first actual legit case this year of a player dying from a hit and not the NYSE ticker PFE.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118541]

>>53118524
maybe all the boomers will just fucking kill themselves and stop eating up all the food and using all of the natural resources. we could fix social security if everybody collecting it just fucking killed themselves.

[Anonymous No.53118549]

Bobros , netflix doesnt want to go down fr

[Anonymous No.53118554]

>>53118511
people make decisions based upon their perceived wealth
people buy a new home, a new car, a new boat, a new X because of the wealth effect
people got used to their new high wealth
their lifestyle went up due to it. they bought better food. they spent money more freely
now they are getting double squeezed
their wealth is evaporating, and inflation is hitting them hard
>>53118509
boomers do not want their assets to fall here..
young people want them to fall, so they can buy a house at a cheaper price, so they can buy stocks at a cheaper price
if you're a boomer, you do NOT want stock prices to fall
I don't know what the fuck you're on
Yes, they have a lot of wealth, low cost averages, but they are still losing huge money
money that they had factored into their lifestyle, their expenses, their retirement
money that is now gone

[Anonymous No.53118576]

>>53118353
you should buy individual bonds instead, the way they roll bonds in ETFs is retarded

[Anonymous No.53118582]

>>53118554
Like i said, theyll fucking take out reverse mortgages because they know they arent paying it back. Boomer greed is legendary

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118588]

>>53118536
Yeah collar bones and ribs are one thing, but the dude's heart exploded right there on the field. I think it was a combination of the vaccine and the blunt force trauma.

[Anonymous No.53118594]

[Anonymous No.53118596]

tos wtf is this

[Anonymous No.53118598]

It‘s over

[Anonymous No.53118601]

Absolute schizo market rn. Tards want to meme the january effect into existence so bad but they're all too traumatized by the fed and terrified of tomorrow's minutes so they market sell anyways.

[Anonymous No.53118606]

TESLA baggies whats up?
Are we buying at a PE of 20?
15? Maybe even 10?

[Anonymous No.53118607]

every time I take a hedge against my position, I instantly lose money on the hedge

[Anonymous No.53118610]

>>53118596
futures

[Anonymous No.53118612]

>>53118607
it doesn't work until it does

[Anonymous No.53118620]

>>53118554
> people make decisions based upon their perceived wealth
True, my boomer dad got my brother a Rolex and I didn't get shit cause his ARKK holdings mooned. I guess inflation fucked things up too. I'm not touching my boomer 401k assets and am just gonna DCA whatever comes next

[Anonymous No.53118621]

>>53118606
tesla is toast. and it's still overvalued. avocado toast

[Anonymous No.53118622]

>>53118606
TSLA is worth $20 unironically

[Anonymous No.53118624]

>>53118610
even the 1m on /es
>prefutures

[Anonymous No.53118625]

>>53118529
>YFW we don’t bottom till march 24 and you baghold another 50% drop lower.

[Anonymous No.53118631]

>>53118408
>REITs
>I didn't know how to tell them that real estate, especially commercial real estate, was likely to shit the bed extremely hard
For the current risks in "the system" I believe that most REITs aren't paying nearly enough dividends for their current prices to be worth holding.
Just look at O (probably the granddaddy), offering a yield of about 4.7% in this environment.
I'd probably feel safer in AGNC and NLY preferred stock bought below $25 right now than holding O or any other REIT outright.

[Anonymous No.53118636]

>>53118606
I don’t know but I just put 20k on April puts, can’t go wrong I guess.

[Anonymous No.53118639]

got fucked on SWVL

[Anonymous No.53118641]

>>53118582
>reverse mortgage
>on a house that's dropping in value at a massive rate
Just because some zoomers are too retarded to work a can opener, doesn't mean they all are. Same goes for boomers too, you know.

[Anonymous No.53118640]

>>53117910
I know this is lord of the rings but i forget who. Im going with gandalf, legolas, or galadriel

[Anonymous No.53118643]

INTC up big while all other semis down. Anyone buying amd over INTC the past few months is a terrible investor

[Anonymous No.53118650]

>>53118640
sorry chud, we only watch LARDY OF DEM RANGZ in /smg/

[Anonymous No.53118662]

>>53118643

…or it has +60% ivol premium vs other semis at 0…

[Anonymous No.53118665]

>>53118643
ive been writing puts. i dont expect intc to fall any further but i expect a crab.

[Anonymous No.53118672]

>>53118643
i got both on the 3500 day last year, cheap call premiums it's a great scalp on "chips bill" headlines

[Anonymous No.53118681]

>>53118665
I’ve been accumulating in the $25s and $26s. I hope it does crab. Collecting divvies and CC premiums will do just fine

[Anonymous No.53118693]

if I take out a home equity loan for a remodel can i just combine my mortgage and home equity loan into one mortgage loan when it's done?

[Anonymous No.53118706]

>>53118329
day of reckoning soon

[Anonymous No.53118715]

Darn. I bought two shares of KO because Coke is a good stock historically, but the market went way down right after. If I'd have waited I could have gotten them cheaper! Ah well, at least I have them.

[Anonymous No.53118721]

>>53118706
Typical America, no one cares about a problem until if affects the NFL somehow

[Anonymous No.53118723]

It's ironic they're called futures because I'm trading them knowing I don't have any future.

[Anonymous No.53118731]

>>53118625
Why March 24?

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118732]

>>53118706
Gets his booster, heart literally explodes a week later.
>Shills will tell you these two things aren't related.
Hint: They are related.

[Anonymous No.53118737]

>>53118706
think how much worse this kids heart attack would have been without the booster!

[Anonymous No.53118742]

>>53118732
>The Namefag Baggie is an antivaxxer

Of course, it all makes sense.

[Anonymous No.53118748]

The more heloc ads and calls you get from shitty loan companies and constant calls to sell your house you know you've beat the jew. Holding real estate that's paid off angers jews more than anything. Tell your kike banker to shove it up his ass and you are not selling. Real estate brokers get the rope

[Anonymous No.53118753]

>>53118732
Yo turn your name off, this is an anonymous imageboard not facebook.

[Anonymous No.53118759]

nvda is gonna retest its lows again

[Anonymous No.53118760]

>>53118742
be the change you want to see in the world

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118765]

>>53118753
anonymity is for pussies and alcoholics

[Anonymous No.53118777]

>>53118706
>>53118732
definitely a real doctor who decided to break hipaa laws. keep your retard shit in /pol/

[Anonymous No.53118780]

>>53118768
>>53118768
>>53118768

New !!!

[Anonymous No.53118784]

>>53118765
>go to anonymous board
>"Anonymity is for pussies and alcoholics"

Genius. Might I recommend going to KFC next and talking about how much you hate meat-eaters, or perhaps going to congress to talk about how bad oil is?

[Anonymous No.53118788]

>>53118554
>money that is now gone
Money that will be tripled within 10 years. Come on bro. You do realize they do not sell, and the market only goes up. Maybe the two of us are familiar with completely different types of boomers but the boomers that I know hold money for their next generations and they know that this is the best way to make long term money in as simple manner as possible.
Buy the dip, hold, and sell so you can give your sons/daughters a better life.
You do realize they made more than ample money just by working. This little extra on the stock market, that's just that... extra. A few million here or there, it always comes back eventually

[Anonymous No.53118819]

>>53118765
If you believe that then you're in the wrong place

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.53118820]

>>53118777
Well he clearly says he is Proudly Jewish, of course he would gladly give people their clot shots the day after X-mas when nobody else wants to work.

[Anonymous No.53118842]

>Be Tesla
>Sell 1/100 of what VW group sells
>Be 100x more valuable though
>Somehow this made sense to burgers

[Anonymous No.53118860]

i almost bought bonds today but then i chickened out

[Anonymous No.53118871]

>>53118765
>>53118820
Nevar forget

[Anonymous No.53119466]

There's been no post for 40 minutes.

[Anonymous No.53119481]

>>53119466
we migrated

[Anonymous No.53119535]

>>53118226
3 day rule?

[Anonymous No.53119581]

>>53119466
Because the next /smg/ is up you silly billy.