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[Anonymous No.53059190]

Buy The Local Top Edition.

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://exhentai.org/tag/character:Fletcher
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Links for Elon fanbois
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
https://www.sprc.org/
https://bad-dragon.com/shop

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

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[Anonymous No.53059214]

Why not buy BOIL

[Anonymous No.53059215]

thank you santa (and Jesus)

[Anonymous No.53059216]

We buying BOIL or KOLD?

[Anonymous No.53059223]

SANTA IS COMING TO TOWN

[Anonymous No.53059237]

>>53059214
because nat gas is going below $4

[Anonymous No.53059243]

treasury bonds, junk bonds, and the VIX are all telling you this move up is bullshit. We'll see how long it takes the galaxy brain permabull bagholders to realize it

[Anonymous No.53059249]

Sold the top of SOXL
Bought the bottom of YANG

YANG GANG RISE UP

[Anonymous No.53059252]

>>53059216
im buying $BOIL because i want to feel like im getting kicked in the balls everytime i wake up

[Anonymous No.53059256]

For me? It’s Tankers™

[Anonymous No.53059273]

>>53059256

How many child laborers died mining all that cobalt?

[Anonymous No.53059275]

I think it may be time for JNUG

[Anonymous No.53059281]

>natgas is going to make a new low

[Anonymous No.53059296]

>>53059256
Tankers? But that's a dry bulk carrier

[Anonymous No.53059301]

Its the SANTA miracle. haha

[Anonymous No.53059311]

>>53059273
Hopefully all of them.

[Anonymous No.53059317]

STOP FARTING IN THE ELEVATOR

[Anonymous No.53059318]

>>53059281
Not this year.

[Anonymous No.53059320]

>>53059243
vix and yields are literally going down retard
did you short the generational bottom?

[Anonymous No.53059323]

Nice lil scalp from yesterday $169 IWM calls

[Anonymous No.53059330]

And just like that! I'm making money again!
I'm so sorry!

[Anonymous No.53059336]

>>53059301
>Santa miracle
>still down from pre-Christmas

[Anonymous No.53059339]

Finally the economy is deteriorating so we can get QE+ZIRP again

[Anonymous No.53059342]

>>53059318
its hovering near yesterdays low, it couldnt even bounce, its over

[Anonymous No.53059347]

Let's say I'm retarded and have been hypergambling TQQQ/SQQQ everyday but it's exhausting and I just want to make a long term bet on SPY hitting 320 that I can't take back. I'd buy an OTM put for this, right? Basically I have 100% confidence we'll hit that level in H1 '23 and would like to just lock the bet in, sit on my hands and stop being tempted to switch positions every half hour based on the latest 1-minute candle. OTM options are basically made for this, right?

Tell me if there's a better way, I just want to go back to watching anime and playing dota and stop worrying so much about intraday candles.

[Anonymous No.53059367]

>futures

[Anonymous No.53059370]

>>53059347
But you can always sell your put, so does that really work?

[Anonymous No.53059377]

>>53059320

VIX is only down 1.5% while the SPY is up 1.6%, retardo. If you think that's the correlated move it's actually your first week trading.

>yields are literally going down

that's bearish for equities, dumb faggot

>did you short the generational bottom?

given how pompous you are after a 2% up move following a 10% down move, you are 100% holding huge bags. How down are you, little faggot? Imagine trying to talk shit while being in the red, LOL.

[Anonymous No.53059379]

WOAH LOOK AT THE SANTA RALLY!!!!

[Anonymous No.53059384]

>>53059347
paradoxically, not worrying about your investments mean being a boglehead, and being a boglehead means you need to get a fucking job

[Anonymous No.53059385]

>>53059370
if it's otm doesn't it start off worthless though?

[Anonymous No.53059392]

Selling puts on BOIL has huge premiums right now.

Really tempted to sell $20 puts

[Anonymous No.53059397]

Merry delayed Christmas everyone! Except permabobos from plebbit fuck you retarded niggers go live in a cardboard box.

[Anonymous No.53059396]

>>53059330
im not sorry

[Anonymous No.53059404]

I entered a $10k Direxion 1.5x TSLA Daily Bull (Ticker: TSLL) in the pre-market and I'm already up $1k. Fucking kek.

Bobo trannies BTFO-ACK'd

[Anonymous No.53059406]

>>53059377
how is yields going down bearish retard?
how new are you to trading?

[Anonymous No.53059411]

>>53059367
>small, circumcised penis
Lmao a male cannot be more shameful, than in that pic...
>>53059379
Is it not santa rallying?!
>>53059392
Do you think natgas is going to continue to drop? Seems like it's taken a steaming pile, already...

[Anonymous No.53059412]

>>53059342
>Stocks still up
>EU still being retarded and freezing to death
Think we'll be okay.

[Anonymous No.53059413]

>natgas

[Anonymous No.53059415]

>>53059256
>climate respect
Holy shit. Climate cultists really need to decarbonize themselves, with a shotgun or a rope.

[Anonymous No.53059417]

>TSLA
Literally a shitcoin.

[Anonymous No.53059418]

Here we go AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53059434]

>>53059404
>1.5x
Get on my level. 21.2x to be exact.

[Anonymous No.53059435]

>>53059417
Found the bobo

[Anonymous No.53059442]

>>53059406

>how new are you to trading?

there is a 50+ year long inverse relationship between yields and equity prices, RETARD. The traditional relationship is yields up = bonds down = risk on. You literally don't even know what makes yields go up, you are parroting talking points from youtube and cnbc talking head faggots calling for the end of the world because yields are going up

tell me, and if you don't respond in 60 seconds i'll know you're using google:

What makes yields go up or down?

[Anonymous No.53059445]

ow my puts

[Anonymous No.53059449]

>>53059347
>Basically I have 100% confidence we'll hit that level
that's the consensus persective. stop following the herd, sheep

[Anonymous No.53059458]

Ring ring nigga

[Anonymous No.53059457]

WHOA BLACK BETTY

[Anonymous No.53059461]

>>53059215
santa is an anagram of satan
also it's impossible bobo to shake me out of my nat gas position simply put, because I'm far too found of a fine woman's bottom

[Anonymous No.53059466]

I bought ONE singular put
make of this what you will

[Anonymous No.53059470]

>>53059442
bonds up = yield down = risk on little retard

[Anonymous No.53059479]

any significant data that caused this many green candles?

[Anonymous No.53059481]

>2000 more people than expected were laid off in december
>US stocks gain 600 billion dollars in market cap
Seems like a bit of an overreaction to me

[Anonymous No.53059494]

Fuck DRV piece of shit stock.

[Anonymous No.53059497]

>natgas

I dont want it to end like this

[Anonymous No.53059502]

>>53059190
THREAD THEME:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo

[Anonymous No.53059506]

>>53059479
OVER
SOLD

[Anonymous No.53059509]

>>53059481
Shhhhhh

[Anonymous No.53059510]

>>53059497
its going back to 2-3$

[Anonymous No.53059513]

>Futures

[Anonymous No.53059515]

>>53059479
Unemployment was higher than expected but not by that much. I think this has more to do with trying to kill puts. Put/call ratio for indexes reached a multiyear high yesterday.

[Anonymous No.53059516]

>>53059481
It's because of astrology my dud.

[Anonymous No.53059526]

>>53059479
Just a technical rally pretty much

[Anonymous No.53059529]

>>53059442
BONDS DOWN
YIELDS UP

THAT'S THE WAY
WE LIKE TO FUCK

[Anonymous No.53059530]

>>53059470

yeah, that's what I thought faggot. You are retarded and I am intelligent, glad you know your place. Good luck with the -45% SOXL bag you're holding

[Anonymous No.53059535]

>>53059506
lol

[Anonymous No.53059538]

>>53059510
I at least expected a bounce after being down almost 50% and having a double digit negative day

[Anonymous No.53059544]

New black swan just dropped

[Anonymous No.53059550]

>>53059435
I have no stakes either way in TSLA

[Anonymous No.53059554]

“Value” investors absolutely SEETHING right now over TSLA.

[Anonymous No.53059555]

Every FUCKING DAY, they scam pump it pm and dump it at 10:20
WHAT THE FUCK is up with these algos? I might as well only trade after 10:30 every day now if it's gonna be this easy

[Anonymous No.53059558]

>>53059530
okay how is a higher yield better for equities than a lower yield you dumb faggot? if you get risk free 4% short term yield you obviously don't risk it on equities but if it does down equity risk is more attractive again retard

[Anonymous No.53059563]

>>53059256
have we come full circle?

[Anonymous No.53059562]

Tesla is going below $100 and Elon Musk will be raped on national television

[Anonymous No.53059567]

>>53059529

[Anonymous No.53059571]

>>53059555
feels good being on the right side of the algo's

[Anonymous No.53059572]

>>53059510
God I hope I'm fucking tired of paying exorbitant sums for life.

[Anonymous No.53059579]

>>53059481
haven't you been paying attention? literally the thing that JPow is looking for to stop rape hiking us is higher unemployment, because he's trying to kill demand.

people losing their jobs and becoming homeless is unironically bullish. neon green bullish. i can't find my picture of JPow smiling in front of homeless people living on the street but im sure some autist anon here has the whole collection of those he could kindly post.

[Anonymous No.53059580]

How much should I allow myself to spend on fun things if I have about 2 years' worth of expenses saved up, no debt, and steady income? 10% of my income? 30%?

[Anonymous No.53059584]

>>53059571
What’s in his portfolio?

[Anonymous No.53059585]

>>53059554
YTD? Stinky poo poo?

[Anonymous No.53059586]

So santa defeated the jews after all

[Anonymous No.53059587]

>natgas

?

[Anonymous No.53059591]

>>53059544
BUT ALL THAT IS JUST A MADE CONSPIRACY THEORY CHUDS, THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT STUFF!

[Anonymous No.53059594]

>>53059555
>Every FUCKING DAY, they scam pump it pm and dump it at 10:20
No they don't otherwise you would take this information and abuse it, making yourself large amounts of money.
But you don't. Because you're simply a retarded bobo and you don't understand how stocks work.

[Anonymous No.53059595]

> New black swan just dropped

[Anonymous No.53059598]

>>53059562
Why, he's fine, remember he sold. Even the CEO doesn't believe in the company anymore

[Anonymous No.53059599]

This is the worst day I've ever traded in. I go long, market goes down. I go short, market immediately stops me out for max loss. Can these retarded algo faggots stop chopping before I kill myself?

[Anonymous No.53059600]

>>53059529
WEEELLLLCOOOOOME TO THE FUCK SHOP
https://youtu.be/OHnzcs5Tel0

[Anonymous No.53059602]

>>53059442
Holy shit, you are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.53059604]

there's powerful niggatry at work here

[Anonymous No.53059614]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

[Anonymous No.53059618]

JEPI's distribution this month will be $0.5729 per share. The third month in a row with a monthly yield greater than 1%. Another good load.

[Anonymous No.53059623]

>>53059347
safer but less profit to buy an itm put, or only slightly otm (to profit from a 320 put spy would have to fall below 320, or be at 320 before your expiration)

[Anonymous No.53059626]

>>53059591
They did it and it all got turned into a meme years ago when it went down so that when all the disclosures start happening they can just say it was a nothingburger. Ultimately I don't care if anyone enabling pedos is either fed into a woodchipper feet first or has the nearest legal equivalent to that as punishment.

[Anonymous No.53059629]

This market is very pro semitic

[Anonymous No.53059632]

What’s a good dividend-focused ETF I can put like 10-15k into? I put 10K into VTI last year as like a safe stash. And I’ve put some amount into XMR as my unsafe stash. So I want something in the middle, so to speak. IDV looks good because it has about 7% yield and is based on non-US markets which I think contrasts my VTI well

[Anonymous No.53059644]

>>53059594
If I was a Bobo, why did I sell my tsla calls at open (which are now down btw, right at 10:30)? Hmmmm, Mr. smarty pants. Are you just another crab in the bucket

[Anonymous No.53059648]

>natgas

it faked out, I am extremel upset

[Anonymous No.53059656]

>>53059544
>JPMorgan getting sued
>he thinks this is news

[Anonymous No.53059668]

>>53059632
dont chase dividends

[Anonymous No.53059674]

>>53059600
man... they really did just straight-up rip off popular songs with sampling back then, didn't they?

[Anonymous No.53059676]

This is IT! The birth of a new bullrun!

[Anonymous No.53059677]

>>53059656
>sued
Charged AND sued

[Anonymous No.53059680]

Holy fuck I almost shat myself today, I'm done fuck this

[Anonymous No.53059686]

>>53059632
for me it's SCHD but there are a lot that are very similar, picrel

[Anonymous No.53059694]

>>53059676
Milk is good for you.

[Anonymous No.53059695]

>>53059579
Yeah but it' just not that much. New unemployment was less than 1% higher than expected. It's just not that many jobs.

[Anonymous No.53059702]

>>53059632
0DTE puts right this second

[Anonymous No.53059703]

>>53059676
I want to shoot and eat it so fucking bad bruhs

[Anonymous No.53059709]

>>53059644
Then why are you fucking bitching? I'd be raking in easy money and kept quiet about it.

[Anonymous No.53059715]

>>53059544
>The Virgin Island Lawyers
vs.
>The Chad Little St. James Bankers
More rigged than the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Wizards.

[Anonymous No.53059722]

>>53059623
>to profit from a 320 put spy would have to fall below 320
pretty exactly what I want, maybe it's a retarded binary bet but if you're supposed to trade your conviction then that's what I think I should be doing. On any given day I'm trying to read the tea leaves and trade in directions I have zero long- or even mid-term faith in, which just wears me out. It's just profoundly obvious that short of a miraculous collapse of the labor market and reversal into strong deflation in the next few months that the fed is going to have to remain a hawkish posture long after the market thinks they should ease, and there are going to be several more shockwaves coming in the next months as the market absorbs the reality (for the nth time) that the fed means what it says and that it wants to err on the side of overtightening for longer.

So yeah I just want to bet on SPY down 15% from today's numbers and walk away for 6 months and enjoy life, and to not even be physically capable of reversing course impulsively based on some random green 5-min candle because I think I can scalp $100 off of it.

[Anonymous No.53059724]

>>53059580
Anyone? Why is it so hard to spend money on things I like?

[Anonymous No.53059725]

>>53059703
You're terrible

[Anonymous No.53059734]

My turn.

[Anonymous No.53059736]

>>53059677
Again, this happens like once a week at least. The fine is never higher then the profit and they have a fall guy ready.

[Anonymous No.53059735]

ok but for real, why the fuck is natural gas dumping non stop so hard? Macro-level nothing muched changed right?

[Anonymous No.53059737]

>>53059237
Why did nat gas gap down 12% but KOLD only gained less than 10% I thought it was 2x?

[Anonymous No.53059744]

>>53059724
Just donate some to me kind sir I will spend it very wisely on your behalf kind generous sir

[Anonymous No.53059750]

>>53059735
>Macro-level
Natgas reserve levels high, mild temperatures in Europe, high prices not warranted. A catastrophe was priced in and turned into a nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.53059753]

Here's a tip:

January effect, April earnings rally, sell in May and go away, summer rally, fall
crash cycle, and Santa Claus rally

[Anonymous No.53059755]

>>53059735
Warmer then expected weather, this is why natgas futures kill traders, predicting the weather is impossible

[Anonymous No.53059756]

>>53059709
Why do you post, faggot? I'm here to make some of you emotional and subsequently lose money. Eg shitpost. Don't give me any of that righteous bullshit either, you're here for exactly that too

[Anonymous No.53059759]

>>53059724
save 10 years of expenses then you're allowed to splurge a little.

[Anonymous No.53059761]

>>53059676
There will be more pain next year as higher interest rates begin to take their toll on businesses, especially growth companies who heavily rely on debt. Next year is crab, but best case scenario is +15% by end of year 2023 if the market front runs the Fed pivot.

[Anonymous No.53059762]

>>53059296
Just drape some plastic sheeting in the holds and don't let too much slosh out in rough seas, it'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.53059763]

anons in this very thread invested in The WidowMaker™ and don't understand why they are getting heemed
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.53059764]

>>53059735
>Nat gas now below 4.5
Jeez what a shitcoin. Guess that's why you don't chase headlines

[Anonymous No.53059766]

At this point in time i guess most of bolivias cocaine supply goes into elons nostrils. The bottom will be reached when he is done snorting and ready to tweet again.

[Anonymous No.53059767]

>>53059722
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-put.html

[Anonymous No.53059768]

>>53059190
L-LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.53059773]

>>53059753
How did last Jan-April go?

[Anonymous No.53059774]

Oil failing to reach $100+ by mid to end of January '23 bodes the risk of NATO and Russia escalating things in the Ukraine.
Not good...

[Anonymous No.53059777]

>>53059753

CEOs have to make that Christmas bonus

[Anonymous No.53059781]

>>53059737
KOLD and BOIL don't track the price of natgas they track the price of the Bloomberg Natural Gas index. You really should read the damn prospectus before you buy this shit.

[Anonymous No.53059785]

>>53059773
Better than expected.

[Anonymous No.53059786]

>>53059756
Well actually I'm here to inform anons that are based and smart about my moves (which they should replicate) and to learn about interesting market/ticker info.

Seems like you're just an attention whore that belongs on plebbit.

[Anonymous No.53059792]

>>53059759
Seriously? I already feel like I have too much money just sitting around

[Anonymous No.53059804]

>>53059781
Nobody here reads a prospectus

[Anonymous No.53059805]

>>53059786
>looks at other posts in thread

bullshit

[Anonymous No.53059811]

>>53059792
i suppose if you want to work into your 60s then feel free to spend more. personally i wanted to retire early

[Anonymous No.53059813]

>>53059763
Who ever introduced Natgas futures to smg, thank you. This has been hilarious

[Anonymous No.53059817]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53059821]

>>53059786
Lol. Lmao even. Listen to yourself nigger. Show portfolio if you're such a great leader. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.53059830]

>>53059750
>>53059755
it would only be normal to expect choppy action, not a straight line down day over day

[Anonymous No.53059836]

Has anyone here actually managed to make it as a trader, like racking up at minimum of 50k USD per year for at least 5 years?

[Anonymous No.53059840]

>>53059821
Long SPX certs at 22x leverage and MNTS. Nothing else.

[Anonymous No.53059853]

>>53059813
Thank you. We already finished casting the second season (oil futures).

[Anonymous No.53059855]

Ok, I guess it just takes a week or something for your money to show up as earning interest after you enroll in cash sweep

[Anonymous No.53059856]

>>53059580
>2 years' worth of expenses saved
That’s a lot. Spend until you’ve got 6 months worth. Just buy things you actually need or want, if you can’t think of anything then invest

[Anonymous No.53059858]

Time to yolo $wag 50 G's back into SQQQ
*dabs*

[Anonymous No.53059859]

>>53059836
>racking up at minimum of 50k USD per year
Nigger you're talking to people that don't even clear the pattern daytrader minimum.

[Anonymous No.53059867]

>>53059580
What are you trying to do? There is no context

[Anonymous No.53059871]

>>53059836

1500% gains over the last year

Made over $50k

I sold the top of OIL before thanksgiving

[Anonymous No.53059885]

>>53059855
>$2.71

[Anonymous No.53059898]

>Holy shit look at the Nikkei

[Anonymous No.53059906]

>>53059614
OIL traders after every SPR dump.

[Anonymous No.53059909]

>>53059821
do you want my sexy times now?
too bad! no sexy times for you
https://youtu.be/XEfXm064hsM

[Anonymous No.53059921]

>>53059867
Right now I want a large Wacom drawing tablet and some gear for my recording studio

>>53059856
Just 6 months worth of emergency fund? It's hard to imagine spending that kind of money, I guess I'm just worried that the housing market will tank and I won't have anything to use as a down payment

[Anonymous No.53059922]

>>53059817
What's the big deal we're just gonna end up crabbing

[Anonymous No.53059926]

>>53059840
Lmao, that's gonna sink quickly
GL
I start day drinking riiiiiiiight.... Now

[Anonymous No.53059933]

>>53059909
Nice you are just winging it. You are like the blind karate kung fu guy who gets lucky every once in awhile.

[Anonymous No.53059937]

>>53059898
>i want to get some nip cutie armpit snacks its not fair

[Anonymous No.53059947]

>>53059830
New forecast days roll in, uh, daily. If they consistently turn warm, you don't get so much chop.

[Anonymous No.53059949]

>>53059933
as expected, you looked but you didn't understand

[Anonymous No.53059951]

>>53059922
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53059962]

>>53059949
Rolling for female broker,

[Anonymous No.53059969]

>>53059840
MNTS, now there's a ticker I've not heard in a long time.

[Anonymous No.53059976]

>>53059513
nothing causes me more rage than those who don't know how to correct such pics

[Anonymous No.53059977]

New Years Rally!

[Anonymous No.53059980]

>dump 1.7%
>pump 1.7% the next day
FUCKING DO SOMETHING

[Anonymous No.53059989]

>>53059962
>glasses
fugg

[Anonymous No.53059991]

>>53059977
that's a good one

[Anonymous No.53059993]

>>53059969
It's been having some rough times price action wise but they're getting contracts left and right and it's bound to shoot off sooner or later by sheer amount of money they earn.

[Anonymous No.53059995]

I was promised a crash

[Anonymous No.53059996]

Who the fuck is buying based on the jobs data? Philyfed came out claiming that instead of a million jobs we've created 10 thousand in Q2 so the fact that we see a "tight" jobs market means fuck all. This doesn't make sense. How can a world economy be a ponzi scheme that doesn't make sense and people buy that shit in a middle of a recession?

[Anonymous No.53060000]

>>53059980
>Sell puts one day
>Sell calls the next
How stupid can you be not to follow such a simple formula, crab nigger
The day reddit no longer trusts the market is the day we heal

[Anonymous No.53060003]

>>53059921
>It's hard to imagine spending that kind of money
I know. Then don’t spend it. If you really are so worried about the future and you can imagine using the money in the next five years or so, the keep it in the bank. Two years’ expenses is a lot for an emergency fund though... I’d personally invest a good chunk

[Anonymous No.53060005]

>>53059995
zoom out

[Anonymous No.53060012]

>>53059996
>Who the fuck is buying based on the jobs data?
Anon, everyone was afraid the jobs would come in hot which would make Fed reconsider decreasing rate hikes. They came as-expected which means Fed will most likely lower to 25.

[Anonymous No.53060015]

>>53059996
It's just pivooters, calm down.

[Anonymous No.53060019]

>>53059715
man you just reminded me of southern poverty call center...

[Anonymous No.53060024]

>>53059996
It's being played by the Quants and CTA's. Look at the volume. This is not real, just like the crash wasn't real. Until volume gets back to normal it's pure manipulation and they are using astrology.

[Anonymous No.53060036]

>>53060012
>which means Fed will most likely lower to 25.
lol. Data is as expected therefore the fed will undercut their own dot plot by 50 bepis

[Anonymous No.53060057]

>>53059668
RIP in pep

[Anonymous No.53060071]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.53060078]

>>53059668
dont chase ETF's

[Anonymous No.53060081]

>>53059996
Everyone. It means the economy is cooling (good, rates back to 2%) or deteriorating (good, rates to 0% and QE). There is literally no data supporting a bearish outlook for stocks and there hasn't been since summer, we should be at 5000 SPX.

[Anonymous No.53060082]

>>53059668
Divviefags never made any sense.

[Anonymous No.53060097]

>>53060081
>we should be at
the market is wrong bruh, SPX 6000 EOY

[Anonymous No.53060102]

>>53060024
So which moon phases are good and which ones bad for market?

[Anonymous No.53060107]

>>53060081
Cope

[Anonymous No.53060111]

>>53060082
>"Divviefags never made any sense"
>joseph carlson steps in
UHM WTF DID YOU SAY TO ME?!!?

[Anonymous No.53060117]

>>53059921
I mean on the non-fun side. But with 2 years saved and no big future goals you could spend >=80%

[Anonymous No.53060119]

>>53060081
The fed has repeatedly made clear they are protecting the dollar and don't fucking care about equity markets.

[Anonymous No.53060121]

>>53060081
>we should be at 5000 SPX.
I miss posts like this

[Anonymous No.53060132]

>>53060012
If the fed would.just be honest and admit that the entirety of millennials and gen z dropped out of the workforce, SPY would have had a +10% day.

[Anonymous No.53060138]

>>53059898
>these are real human beings
>real people, as real as you and me, are doing this, in real life
>even porn stars exist in droves who are just women who were asked if they wanted to have any kind of crazy sex acts you can imagine for some money and they're like "okay" because they need to pay their bills
>this isn't a fictional story, it's real life, and you could have been one of those people

[Anonymous No.53060141]

>>53060081
>There is literally no data supporting a bearish outlook
this but the reverse

[Anonymous No.53060143]

>>53060107
>"Surely Jerome isn't actually going to rape us all to death to save the economy and the dollar"
Lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.53060158]

WHY IS LINE GOING UP ON NO NEWS AAAAAA YOU CANT EXPLAIN WHY LINE GOING UP ON NO NEWS AAAAAAAAA MARKET RIGGED

[Anonymous No.53060163]

Sold my TSLA calls and rolled it all into JNUG
CAM ON GOLD

[Anonymous No.53060168]

[Anonymous No.53060173]

>>53060119
And that’s a good thing

[Anonymous No.53060174]

shorting tsla was supposed to be easy money. biz lies every single time. fuck this bullshit

[Anonymous No.53060180]

>>53060173
Correct

[Anonymous No.53060198]

>>53060168
Where my 0DTE chads at?

[Anonymous No.53060206]

>>53060174
>shorting after a -20% bloodbath

nah

[Anonymous No.53060210]

>>53060174
>shorting a stock that already basically crashed 80%

What have we learned?

[Anonymous No.53060218]

>>53059190
exactly who they are, dumb dumbs are like bulimic voice isn't fake, hardi har-har

[Anonymous No.53060231]

>>53060210
>>53060206
Guess I should start shorting

[Anonymous No.53060232]

Coworker got fired, got the standard 3.5% raise.

Is it happening? We are in a pretty in demand field and not in Tech.

[Anonymous No.53060238]

>>53060143
Poor lil' Jerome has only been "winning" his stupid fight against inflation because of the SPR dump flowing through into lower prices. The equivalent of taking pain killers to treat cancer.

And that prescription just ran out.

[Anonymous No.53060242]

>>53060232
Don't worry goy, job market is still tight. Too tight.

[Anonymous No.53060265]

>>53060119
Inflation is already over and the dollar doesn't need more protection. They need to start cutting to at least 2% asap

[Anonymous No.53060273]

>>53060238
Zip it oil cuck

[Anonymous No.53060277]

>>53060210
learned?

[Anonymous No.53060287]

>>53060232
I got fired too. shits getting bad.

[Anonymous No.53060289]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OEMKXtYP4

[Anonymous No.53060292]

>>53060232
>in historically recession proof sector
>in role where it is extremely hard to get fired
>fucking hate it and just want a layoff so i can draw gibs

[Anonymous No.53060296]

>>53060238
Sorry oil bro, Biden's big short was a great success. He won this one.

[Anonymous No.53060297]

>>53060287
uuuu

[Anonymous No.53060302]

>>53060238
True, and anyone with three working braincells knows the entire market is on the brink - anyone taking the PPT bait and going long right now is in my opinion going to beheem themselves shortly.

[Anonymous No.53060317]

Once the realization has been made by the masses that WW3 has started THE BUBBLE WILL FINALLY POP selling will be as intense, if not more so, than March of 2020. We will see 2-3k down days again in the DOW. The market will crater, housing will crash, rates will spike, the USDX will leap towards 120. The Dow will crater down to 18-21k, housing will crash roughly 25%, and commodities will get crushed

>sauce: archive ph/t0iws

Feds Preparing for Gun Confiscations

Thanks to horrible governmental policy, debt insolvency, systemic corruption, economic sabotage, soaring fertilizer prices, insane geo-engineering warfare against populations and the war in Ukraine, global food supplies have been getting plundered. So we really needed a banner year for agricultural production in both the United States and Europe in 2022 and that is not happening. In fact, unprecedented 'drought' is absolutely devastating crops all over the northern hemisphere. In 2023, there simply is not going to be enough food for everyone:

[Anonymous No.53060348]

>>53060273
Don't be salty. I'm sure prices can go down from here, so long as 300% of Chinamen catch the WuFlu and stay home for the next year with long COVID.

[Anonymous No.53060350]

>>53060317
If WW3 happens, stocks will go to infinity.
The hard part will be avoiding complete loss of savings due to all the massive capital gains you'll be paying. Each transaction will mean upwards of 20% loss (40% if short term).
Taxation is theft.

[Anonymous No.53060352]

>>53060265
Inflation isn't over. MoM it's on target, which would mean rates are about right. But, inflation is only on target MoM in the context of dramatically decreasing gas prices, so more rate hikes will be needed as that deflationary tailwind dies down.

[Anonymous No.53060354]

>>53060232
I can tell my management is evaluating who to fire.

[Anonymous No.53060357]

>>53060317

[Anonymous No.53060360]

>>53060317
i appreciate the schizo posting, helps me understand who i should bet against

[Anonymous No.53060365]

>>53060317
just two more weeks!!

[Anonymous No.53060371]

>>53060317
War is an inflationary event

[Anonymous No.53060378]

>>53060317
The fuck are you smoking? War is super bullish for the USA. A large portion of our GDP is military spending and one of the few things the US is still manufacturing is weapons. For most of modern history the US has been the premier nation of war.

[Anonymous No.53060383]

>>53060365
>>53060371
plz ignore people who use all caps to emphasize words.

[Anonymous No.53060388]

>>53060317
Get help

[Anonymous No.53060409]

>>53060383
I still want to know what the F.E.D. is. People always say that but never what it stands for.

[Anonymous No.53060419]

>>53060383
The irony of posting this while FAILING to spell out "please" properly.

[Anonymous No.53060422]

>>53060378
>ID: PeeMovies
Something you wanna share with us man

[Anonymous No.53060424]

>>53060383
Thanks all add this to one of my many personas that I play here.

[Anonymous No.53060433]

>>53060360
none of that is going to happen, but chances are good that the market meanders down until there is an actual change in Fed policy, QT and rate hikes specifically
until that time algos/MM/whatever flavor of investing boogeyman you subscribe to will keep trying to time the bottom so we will get relatively high volatility
it's not exciting and schizo though so no one will listen

[Anonymous No.53060436]

>>53060238
>muh SPR
You do realize they've only released 180mil barrels, right? That's preanuts on the global scale. As such, that means your inflation argument is flimsy at best.
Oil will continue to drop, unless there is a *LARGE* increase in the activity of the Ukraine-Russia war.

[Anonymous No.53060440]

Miner bros, I think it's time

[Anonymous No.53060452]

Do you guys like VTI or VOO better?

[Anonymous No.53060460]

>>53060232
Companies are trimming the fat and getting rid of the dead beats. WFH people are especially fucked. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.53060464]

>>53060440
Don't get baited. DXY is about to bounce off a multi-decade support. PMs and miners will get smoked.

[Anonymous No.53060466]

>>53060422

[Anonymous No.53060474]

Hello? New Year Rally?

[Anonymous No.53060477]

>>53060452
VTI has a better return as it also includes small-caps

[Anonymous No.53060479]

>>53060440
>always has been

[Anonymous No.53060484]

>>53060452
I prefer VTI.
>>53060464
Why would DXY "bounce"? For what reason, exactly?

[Anonymous No.53060485]

First time investing, I read a bit, basically have ≈€10k that I won’t be using anytime soon (on top of normal savings, a 20% loss wouldn’t hurt me a lot, I’m looking to make some extra for when I buy a new house in 5 years). My current plan is to put part in MSCI, part in ishdv, and part in the jp Morgan natural resources etf (I’m thinking 30:40:30).

On a scale of one to ten how smart/stupid is this? My bank only lets me trade etfs unless I pay them hundreds yearly

[Anonymous No.53060488]

>>53060460
Yeah right. The fat being trimmed are the retards who work in offices, companies are realizing they can do WFH, cut down on expenses, and maintain the same output as before

[Anonymous No.53060496]

>>53060436
>they've only released 180mil barrels
Whoa, how'd your post from 6 months ago end up in the current /smg/ thread?

[Anonymous No.53060530]

>>53060488
I haven't heard of any businesses being pro work from home. It is more of a labor compromise since they couldn't bait everyone back from the pandemic. WFH is a middle manager's nightmare.

[Anonymous No.53060531]

>>53060433
>but chances are good that the market meanders down until there is an actual change in Fed policy
market will recover before policy change is announced. waiting for it to be official will mean a very late entry.

[Anonymous No.53060533]

>>53060484
103 has been the strongest multi-decade resistance. Every time we fully broke we didn't plummet back under without a bounce. 103 is absurdly strong support.

[Anonymous No.53060535]

>>53060488
Negative. Companies are paying for massive offices spaces and aren't going to just eat the cost. They also know WFH people literally do nothing all day. In the office they can be watched and therefore more productive. WFH people are all going to be asked to come back to the office or to kick rocks.

[Anonymous No.53060538]

>>53060485
>My bank only lets me trade etfs unless I pay them hundreds yearly
Surely all Europoors have access to brokerages that screw them less than this?

[Anonymous No.53060559]

>>53060496
Would you say the SPR is half empty right now, or half full?

[Anonymous No.53060567]

>>53060531
interesting, based on that we have at least 8 more months of bear market

[Anonymous No.53060570]

DIS chads rise up! easiest stock to trade in the market frens

[Anonymous No.53060593]

Seems pretty obvious to me that TSLA is just half way between the gap it wants to fill at $83 and it's retracement at $144. Guys it could go up or down depending on which way the stock moves.

[Anonymous No.53060596]

The market has just been going up for the last sixteen hours. This is boring. No downticks at all just up or sideways then up.

[Anonymous No.53060602]

>>53060570
>DIS
>easiest stock to trade

yeah, if youre hitting Sell

[Anonymous No.53060604]

>>53060538
I can get an account at a broker but they charge pretty big comissions too. What should I look for instead of ETFs?

[Anonymous No.53060606]

>>53060485
I dunno anything about your stock picks aside from Morgan Stanley which should benefit from high interest rates, but I am begging you to take it slow and cost average small amounts at a time. This is so that if you lose huge percentages, it won't be a huge amount of money and so that you'll know what it's like to lose big and what your reaction will be.

[Anonymous No.53060607]

>>53060559
You kid but I'd say half empty.

A red congress might've been able to prohibit SPR sales or even mandate refilling, but nominating niggers and Turkish scammers to the Senate means they only won the House. Which means as we endure a late '23, early '24 inflation spike, Biden will empty the last of it to save his election chances again. We'll have under 200m barrels by the start of '25.

[Anonymous No.53060612]

>some piece of data comes out at 8:30am
>it's either bearish or bullish
>buy the most leveraged index product you can at market open, long or short based on the data
>ride the waves, collect money
>sell at market close

next day
>some piece of data comes out at 8:30 am
>etc

making money is easy. why are you all making it so complicated?

[Anonymous No.53060627]

FUCK CARVANA

[Anonymous No.53060628]

>>53060531
>chart shows exactly one example where it was worth frontrunning the fed
>but historically most bear markets have bottomed AFTER the fed started easing, not before

ok

[Anonymous No.53060632]

SPX ~4250pts 1H '23

[Anonymous No.53060636]

>>53060559
Its irrelevant. No one needs a strategic reserve anymore for we live in good, peaceful times obviously.
>>53060570
I only would buy that if the next animated movie features all transgender main characters.

[Anonymous No.53060643]

>>53060627
YES!
Fuck CVNA to zero!

[Anonymous No.53060644]

>>53060612
If you did that 3 weeks ago with the inflation data you would've gotten murdered

[Anonymous No.53060650]

>>53060628
not all bear markets are a result of run away inflation. the chart reflects the last time we were in this situation. is no one here able to think critically

[Anonymous No.53060651]

>>53060496
And what are you getting at? Again, it's a meaningless amount, and does nothing to curb global inflation; as well as US inflation.
The difference between Jan'22-Dec'22 is ~215mil barrels.
seems to be ~35mil more than I said; still meaningless.
>>53060533
checked
Do you not think we had reasons for those bounces? I'm still not buying it, unless JPow decides to go gangbusters and do a 75 bepis in Feb

[Anonymous No.53060664]

>>53060531
what was the yield curve doing during this time period? there has to be a signal we can look for.

[Anonymous No.53060669]

>>53060612
>just speculate on upcoming news with max leverage bro
wow so easy!

[Anonymous No.53060671]

>>53060651
releasing almost a million barrels a day is not meaningless

[Anonymous No.53060684]

>>53060409
Its the Polish that print the money

[Anonymous No.53060690]

>>53060628
Well it could be that easing during, say, 2008 type recessions is a longer pipeline of lower rates -> cheap credit -> looser lending -> mortgages and car numbers turn around over a couple months -> econ data shows signs of turning around.

This "easing"/inflation fight pivoting could be faster since it's just lower rates -> traders move money from bonds into equities.

[Anonymous No.53060707]

>>53060644
inflation was rosy, stocks were green that monday. tuesday the fed release came out and stocks were red. Buying on monday morning, selling monday close, shorting on tuesday morning and selling on tuesday close would have netted you +2% on monday and +6% on tuesday using levered QQQ products.

[Anonymous No.53060709]

>>53060664
>there has to be a signal we can look for.
the 2 year being inverted w/ the fed funds rate is a possibility

[Anonymous No.53060710]

straight melt up; this is the power of the Santa rally!

[Anonymous No.53060716]

>>53060651
>Do you not think we had reasons for those bounces?
There's always a reason or a macro outlook. I take trades based on odds, and the odds favor a bounce of 103 as shown by the last 40 years. If I knew for sure I'd be able to retire of course!

[Anonymous No.53060725]

it's over for bears. what could possibly happen aside from ww3 to trigger senseless dump of yesterday's magnitude?
aths next month.

[Anonymous No.53060726]

>>53060651
Marginal barrels have a gigantic effect on price. That's literally commodity trading 101 because supply *has* to meet demand.

[Anonymous No.53060731]

>>53060669
>speculate
literally just react to the news after it drops, that's the opposite of speculating

literally just interpret the newest data point and decide if it's bearish or bullish and be the first one to buy or sell based on that interpretation. jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.53060736]

Market won't do anything crazy until JPM collar at 3835 is gone

[Anonymous No.53060737]

>>53060725
WW3 is what's going to happen

[Anonymous No.53060748]

>>53060530
Idk, my job went WFH, when all restrictions were lifted they just decided to stay WFH

[Anonymous No.53060749]

>>53060716
Isn't the "This Time Is Different" argument here that, unlike those previous times, we have the Fed, ECB, and BOJ all pushing the dollar down?

[Anonymous No.53060750]

>>53060725
Lol spy is hitting 330 next month retard

[Anonymous No.53060756]

>>53060737
lol who even is going to fight in ww3?

[Anonymous No.53060757]

>>53060737
>>53060750
nice try bobos!

[Anonymous No.53060758]

>>53060725
>>53060737
If you are looking for WW3 look at WW2.
BULLISH

[Anonymous No.53060759]

>>53060628
The current market is closer to the 70s than any other "bear" market. The underlying economy is still strong and the SPX should be priced much higher - it's just the fear over tightening driving stocks down. If you want to make gains you will need to aggressively front-run the Fed because the entire drop will be reversed in about a week once market participants catch on. The bottom is already in in the SPX (back in October). Now that the economy is finally cooling it's up only from here. 5000 SPX Q2.

[Anonymous No.53060765]

>>53060607
>You kid but I'd say half empty.
It's actually quite a serious matter. You've come to the same conclusion as I have. Rules do not actually exist unless they are enforced enforced.
Team Biden will dump the rest in a misguided attempt to save the party. Bearish for oil, and also bearish for the long term health and stability of the US economy, and for that matter - the entire world.
They pushed noise about repurchases and set up a token order for 3m barrels to help spread the narrative that they're profiting off this SPR maneuver, but the reality is that they can never refill any meaningful portion of what they've lost without dramatically impacting the price. Every single barrel repurchased would cost more than the equivalent barrel sold, as the price moves back to $150+.

We'll likely see another temporary spike in oil prices this summer though, before they resume draining for the 2024 election.

[Anonymous No.53060778]

>>53060758
>Double digit inflation
>2.5% long end YCC
Roll those tanks into Poland, mein fuhrer.

[Anonymous No.53060782]

>>53060756
East vs west

[Anonymous No.53060786]

>>53060606
Thanks. I have been cost averaging (€50/month) for the past year and half using my bank’s “guided investing” service and lost €300 to date (at some point it was at -€1000). My salary easily covers that but I’ve been sitting on some thousands worth savings and get zero interest from bank

[Anonymous No.53060792]

>>53060782
>cardinal directions declare war on each other

[Anonymous No.53060793]

>>53060725
>what could possibly happen
A realization that inflation was stemming from a supply shock due to an influx of orders online into a system built around brick and mortar which has been remedied by adjusting supply chains to online orders and then a follow-up realization that the tightening into those conditions is akin to swinging from a noose to try and fix your too much oxygen problem and then ww3

[Anonymous No.53060795]

>>53060756
machines vs humans
its finally happening

[Anonymous No.53060800]

>>53059762
kek

[Anonymous No.53060804]

Today, I got my cost basis for SPXL under $106.

[Anonymous No.53060811]

>>53060750
Maybe but it will hit 400 first.

[Anonymous No.53060827]

bobros... give me some hopium...please...

[Anonymous No.53060828]

>>53060731
You are extremely dumb, I guarantee that you haven't done this many times.

[Anonymous No.53060831]

>>53060827
This is the market just being dragged up by a deadcatting TSLA, which is rolling over as we speak?

[Anonymous No.53060833]

>>53060749
The FED isn't pushing the dollar down, and the recent central bank news is mostly noise. JPYUSD was down 40% and BOJ literally needed to save the currency so it's on a small rally. That's not enough to move the dollar that much. We shall see though, if we do break down below get ready for the most face ripping melt up next year.

[Anonymous No.53060840]

>>53060811
Doubt it, but it def will short squeeze and blow past 400 after

[Anonymous No.53060844]

>>53060643
WHY IS THIS SHITCO RALLYING
REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.53060859]

NatGasbags... it's over...

[Anonymous No.53060867]

>>53060859
Im killing myself

[Anonymous No.53060868]

>>53060844
Because you touch yourself at night

[Anonymous No.53060871]

>>53060840
>every move up is a squeeze
go back pls

[Anonymous No.53060877]

>>53060859
Natural gas is unironically a good buy if it touches $2 again.

[Anonymous No.53060883]

>MUSK JUST HAD HIS FIRST MARGIN CALL FOR TWITTER LOAN: BARRONS
ITS OVER FOR TSLA CHUDS

[Anonymous No.53060888]

>>53060868
>family guy

[Anonymous No.53060895]

>>53060877
Yeah it just needs to go down 60% first lmao

[Anonymous No.53060897]

>>53060778
On second thought:
Draining the SPR is a clear signal the US doesn't want to start WW3. Showing incapability and weakness after years of strength. DXY 103 is the bottom i agree but something else seems odd.

[Anonymous No.53060901]

>>53060883
imagine going from the richest man in the world to the poorest. like with Trump, it seems like (((they))) want to make an example of people who fight against them, eh?

[Anonymous No.53060912]

>>53060833
>The FED isn't pushing the dollar down
Relative to pricing a month ago, the odds of the next hike only being 25 are up. Not to mention inflation and jobloss nowcasting, a more dovish Fed voting roster in 2023... I'm not saying a pivot is happening tomorrow but the US is certainly trending dovish.

>BOJ literally needed to save the currency so it's on a small rally
What's to stop them from lifting the YCC cap to 75 the second 50 is hit? Or otherwise responding to Chinese tightening?

And this is to say nothing of the ECB at least adopting a more hawkish front.

>We shall see though, if we do break down below get ready for the most face ripping melt up next year.
fr fr

[Anonymous No.53060920]

>>53060317
is this from austin powers
that movie was pretty kek i had a few dvds of it

[Anonymous No.53060921]

Next

>>53060914

[Anonymous No.53060924]

>>53060859
>euro's learn natural gas is affordable as fuck
there is some irony here going over everyone's heads

[Anonymous No.53060926]

>>53060901
His fault for setting himself up like that, even before that he'd live on loans taken with his TSLA bags as collateral.

[Anonymous No.53060928]

>>53060871
>every
Nigger IQ, then again I need someone to sell calls to