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[Anonymous No.52989802]

What's more important for a country's economy: Having superior technology or more energy resources?

[Anonymous No.52989841]

>>52989802
Exactly the same importance.

[Anonymous No.52989871]

>>52989802
Superior technology
African continent has many energy sources loke oil but what good did it do them other than being openly exploited by both US/West and China?

[Anonymous No.52989920]

>>52989802
Superior technology. If you need resources, you use that superior technology to that effect. how the fuck is that even a question.

[Anonymous No.52989928]

>>52989920
>MUH AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
This isn’t 1950 grandpa, that steel shit can get sank in 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.52989932]

>>52989920
Sorry for trying to learn

[Anonymous No.52989940]

>>52989802

It depends.

If you're already technologically advanced (like Russia) then it's better you have lots of natural resources.

If you're not technologically advanced (like most of Sub-Saharan Africa) then it doesn't really matter, because other technologically advanced countries will just enslave you and take your natural resources.

[Anonymous No.52989945]

>>52989802
>What's more important for a country's economy: Having superior technology or more energy resources?

technology is utterly useless without energy. energy is far more important.

[Anonymous No.52989946]

>>52989928
With what, fucking diesel submarines? """"hypersonic""""" mememissiles wunderwaffe that crash by themselves in fields?

[Anonymous No.52989953]

>>52989920
>Superior technology. If you need resources, you use that superior technology to that effect

yeah we have invented wind turbines and solar panels with our technology, look how well they work.

[Anonymous No.52989961]

>>52989946
>""""hypersonic""""" mememissiles wunderwaffe that crash by themselves in fields?

you have any evidence of one crashing by itself in a field?

[Anonymous No.52990043]

>>52989920

"Technology" you imply is expensive and cannot be mass produced, especially without forementioned resources and China-like industry. Cheap, mass-produced weapons backed by civilian industry win wars. This is the lesson we learned. Having 100 cheap Iranian drones is much better than having one expensive with a lot of features (which will be shot down in first day anyway). Mimicking modern US army only leads to problems in actual modern wars.

t. Ruskie

[Anonymous No.52990057]

>>52990043
>Cheap, mass-produced weapons backed by civilian industry win wars.

oil wins wars. if you have no oil you lose.

[Anonymous No.52990085]

>>52990057

Oil is a resource too.

All I am trying to say is that modern China has both the resources and actual technology to win. Technology not in "has night vision and pattern recognition software installed" way, but in "advanced enough to deal damage and cheap enough to be mass produced".

[Anonymous No.52990088]

>>52989802
That's because some orange retard imposed tariffs on EU goods.

[Anonymous No.52990097]

>>52989802
Honestly a good question to pose for this board

I say technology wins over resources because yeah high tech means you can take the resources. I mean think back like 50 years before a lot of Africa even met the western world, many of them likely viewed us as borderline alien human versions of themselves.
But also if you have both, it's obviously a good thing too. I genuinely believe the only reason Russia isn't nuked off the earth yet is because they sit on mountains of oil and other natural resources, they get to grift because they may not be a wealthy country overall but are sitting on a goldmine of resource leverage over the entire world.

"Haha I will go to war over Ukraine and you won't nuke us because then you can't get the resources for hundreds of years :)"

[Anonymous No.52990105]

>>52990085
>Oil is a resource too.

oil is the master resource. if you have no oil you cant do anything including mine metals or coal.

[Anonymous No.52990109]

>>52990097
>I say technology wins over resources because yeah high tech means you can take the resources

you need resources to build the tech. resources come first.

[Anonymous No.52990113]

>>52990097
>. I genuinely believe the only reason Russia isn't nuked off the earth yet is because they sit on mountains of oil and other natural resources,

russia has nuclear weapons you mong. thats why we dont nuke them.

[Anonymous No.52990119]

>>52990113
do they though? we also thought they had a real military and we see how that has played out

[Anonymous No.52990149]

>>52990043
>Mimicking modern US army only leads to problems in actual modern wars
The fuck am I reading. Not disregarding your statement about cheap Iranian drones, it's right. But how can you say modern US army leads to problems, when you have the very example live right now where a mere 18 fucking HIMARS and a bunch of Ceasars were sufficient to completely change the course of a war. We're seeing right now what a few pieces of precise modern armament do against hundreds of dumb soviet era artillery. And it's not pretty for the owners of the cheap armament.
You need both modern and both cheap saturation armament.

[Anonymous No.52990151]

>>52990097

Russia isn't "nuked" because Russia can nuke you back. Another important lesson from war in Ukraine is that having nuclear weapons prevents other nuclear powers from intervention. Yes, they can try to supply Ukraine with weapons, money and intelligence, but that's pretty much it.

Resources and "advanced enough, but cheap" technology is better than just "technology" or just resources or both of them. Modern conflict is a conflict of massive mobilized armies consisting from both professional soldiers and drafted civillians. Same as 20th century. Also, I expect draft to return (or at least western governments will try) in some way for Western countries as well.

[Anonymous No.52990167]

>>52990119
>do they though? we also thought they had a real military and we see how that has played out

they are winning the war. Ukraine's power grid has been almost destroyed. Ukraine is finished as a country unless or until that damage is repaired.

[Anonymous No.52990169]

>>52990167
2 more weeks right Ivan?

[Anonymous No.52990175]

Of course that dumb pinktard had to be an Ivan.

[Anonymous No.52990187]

>>52990149
>a mere 18 fucking HIMARS and a bunch of Ceasars were sufficient to completely change the course of a war.

what? they didnt change the course of the war

[Anonymous No.52990191]

>>52989802
Superior technology, so you can genocide the people with resources.

Sadly, women can vote, and they think genociding Africans and mudslimes is 'le bad', so instead we are importing shit to our places.

Conclusion?
Superior technology
Civilized people
And women in their place

[Anonymous No.52990209]

>>52990149

They changed nothing. Yes, they provide some "lower-limit bar" offensive/defensive abilities to Ukraine, but that's it. Western artillery isn't immortal, it gets destroyed or needs repairs. Russia still has 10 times more artillery (both rocket and ordinary) than Ukraine. And since this war is waged mostly by artillery, Ukraine has more loses. Main problem of Russia in this conflict is that we tried to wage this war with the force of 150K professional soldiers against the country of 37mln who drafted 1 mln of its citizens. You just can't hold such extensive Frontline is these conditions. But surprisingly, we were able to fight until September. After that, the draft from our side was initiated.

tldr US would have had the same problems in this war as we, because our army was modeled after US army since 2000s. Russia has 300K ground forces and US has only 400K.

[Anonymous No.52990216]

>>52989802
this is unironically their own fault

[Anonymous No.52990218]

>>52990191
>Superior technology, so you can genocide the people with resources.

doesnt work if you have no fuel.

Japan tried it.

[Anonymous No.52990231]

Do not talk to or acknowledge Russians. They will never again have an empire or be considered a great power. The smart Russians have already left the country and it's just Vatnik retards left.

[Anonymous No.52990241]

>>52989802
This pic is the sole reason for the urkaine war

And probably covid

[Anonymous No.52990279]

>>52989802
Being American

[Anonymous No.52990287]

>>52990149
lmaao the CNN brain if a mutt, gentlemen

[Anonymous No.52990695]

>>52990119
You need to understand that this sustained war effort is a very profitable scheme for both sides.

[Anonymous No.52990757]

>>52990695

War is never profitable. Independently how this war ends, Ukraine is basically destroyed. It will need more than a decade (maybe several decades) to simply rebuild its economtly to pre war levels independently from money spent, because production speed is limited. You cant build a commieblock faster if you spent even 1 trillion USD on it, real life is not a video game. Besides, there are 10 million refugees from Ukraine so fat, most of them are children and women of birthing age. Most of those refugees will never return, and the longer the war lasts the less the amount of returnees will be.

[Anonymous No.52990772]

>>52989946
With regular fucking mid-range missiles and/or torpedos. Carriers are just for projecting power by being like a mobile base. Missile spam can still take them out.

[Anonymous No.52991207]

>>52990757
>War is never profitable
for you

[Anonymous No.52991263]

>>52990757
>Ukraine is basically destroyed. It will need more than a decade (maybe several decades) to simply rebuild its economtly to pre war levels independently from money spent, because production speed is limited.

it's going to probably be impossible to replace the Soviet era electrical equipment. Since the rest of the system that still exists works on Soviet voltages, that will all have to be replaced as well.

Ukraine would have to be re-electrified from scratch.

It's such a huge and expensive job that nobody really has the resources for it.

[Anonymous No.52991403]

>>52990231
Oh wow the shills are out and they're already spamming the Swedish psyop woman. Cope, is all I will say

[Anonymous No.52991513]

>>52990231
>403 KB
> Do not talk to or acknowledge Russians. They will never again have an empire or be considered a great power. The smart Russians have already left the country and it's just Vatnik retards left.

Russia is clearly much stronger than either we or they thought. They shook off our sanctions like it was nothing while our economies are collapsing.

[Anonymous No.52992151]

>>52990757
Pfff. Nigger, do you even Rothschilds?

[Anonymous No.52992252]

>>52989871
>being openly exploited by both US/West and China?
They wish they were exploited, the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of all economically viable sites for ressource extraction - are not being used. They literally sit on the largest gold reserves, unable to engage in anything other than pick axes and open field mining. Oil, rare earth, metals, everything really.. being locked away beneath the surface.
Why? it's obvious if you look at China, the only country engaged in "pillaging", they bring their OWN army to protect their mining operations.

At least breadcrumbs and jobs open by the Chinese pillage.. i think most of Africa secretly wish for some pillaging.

[Anonymous No.52992276]

>>52989802
hilarious map as most of those countries are like China 11% US 10%. It's a completely misleading map and gets completely destroyed when you add the EU to it. Brainlets still repost it

[Anonymous No.52992638]

>>52991513
>They shook off our sanctions like it was nothing while our economies are collapsing

[Anonymous No.52993026]

>>52989802
If they like boobs or butt more

[Anonymous No.52993281]

>>52992638
>leader by abortion
the heck you talking about? not even in top-5 in europe
inb4 still wanking to 20 years old data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_abortion_statistics

[Anonymous No.52993507]

>>52989802
Without infrastructure how do gather the energy? Without energy how do you build the infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.52993587]

[Anonymous No.52993619]

>>52990088
US exports didn't actually fall too significantly in a any particular year except 2020. Chinese exports just increased by like 30x.

[Anonymous No.52993659]

>>52990097
>50 years before a lot of Africa even met the western world
The fuck are you talking about? Even if you thought that most Africans weren't in contact with Europe before the colonization, those colonizations still took place over 150 years ago.

[Anonymous No.52993714]

>>52990167
During world war two it took the Germans 12 months, and the Soviets 18 months, to conquer the entire nation of Ukraine. Russia has conquered 11 percent of Ukrainian territory in the last 10 months.

[Anonymous No.52993742]

>>52990187
Cut the amount of territory seized in 2022 nearly in half, that's a pretty big change.

[Anonymous No.52993801]

>Betting against 2 time world war winner.

[Anonymous No.52993874]

>>52992276
Also us exports doubled in that time, it's just that Chinese exports 30x'd over the same period.

[Anonymous No.52993995]

>>52993281
>It's not top 5
Because it's number 6 per capita? Just say six.
It's still the leader absolutely by the way.

[Anonymous No.52994004]

>>52989802
You're asking what's more important, food or water.
Yeah you'll die quicker without one but you ultimately need both.

[Anonymous No.52994914]

>>52993995
number 7, not 6
the point was that its not the leader, not even close, what is this pointless argument?

[Anonymous No.52995542]

>>52990231
i will continue to talk to russians
cope and sneed

[Anonymous No.52995654]

>>52992252
>They wish they were exploited,
>Doesn't know anything about African history.
They did get exploited, tardo.

[Anonymous No.52995664]

>>52990057
>oil wins wars. if you have no oil you lose.
He said he was Russia, dildo.

[Anonymous No.52995673]

Why isnt Antartica on here?

[Anonymous No.52995674]

>>52990109
>>52990105
Russia has all the oil.

[Anonymous No.52995709]

>>52990231
>it's just Vatnik retards left.
So white trash? Man, you guys are pretty edgy.

[Anonymous No.52995721]

>>52990043
you are losing the only war youre engaged in (against your little brother)

[Anonymous No.52995724]

>>52993587
The Russians also armed Africans when Africans were killing white south Africans, what's your point? Russians don't care about you.

[Anonymous No.52995736]

>>52993659
>The fuck are you talking about?
Africa isn't as developed as modern America? The west is going to Africa for raw resources and its bringing money and infrastructure?
The fuck are you talking?

[Anonymous No.52996941]

>>52992252
>China, the only country engaged in "pillaging", they bring their OWN army to protect their mining operations.
Read this patriot, you are the bad guys
>>52992638
stupid storilet, don`t worry i`ll destroy your faggot narrative in two months

[Anonymous No.52997035]

>>52990149
B00kmarked