/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL

[Anonymous No.52631100]

99% Edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

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[Anonymous No.52631104]

>>52631100
I think we need a kosher timeout in here

[Anonymous No.52631107]

>>52631100
Thank God for dead bears

[reluctant kneepad girl No.52631118]

First for 100 dollar beef jelly

[Anonymous No.52631122]

>>52631100
AAAAAAAAAAAAAI NEED TO MAKE 1 GRAND A DAY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR ELSE I AM FINANCIALLY
ROOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIINEEEEDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.52631175]

Jeff Bezos said he sees a recession coming, and has said: "Don't buy TV, fridge, hold onto your money," per Business Standard.

Bearish for AMZN stocks? Doesn't help that China is crumbling right now from protests, camps and other bullshit.

[Anonymous No.52631178]

>>52631102
They still have to get it to market. The other eay that China attempts to tame volatility is to short materials if they spike and use physical delivery to maintain their industrial monopoly. Earlier this year that blew up in their face and the LME had to jump in front and save them before a major metal producer went bankrupt overnight.

[Anonymous No.52631179]

If Black Friday sales performance was that mediocre this year for retail in general, I just want to see how bad Cyber Monday is going to be.

[Anonymous No.52631187]

>>52631118
Wtf is that

[Anonymous No.52631189]

>>52631179
It's gonna be real bad because they all had those sales weeks ago

[reluctant kneepad girl No.52631194]

>>52631187
this shitty looking tub of black jelly is worth 100 dollars, its the culmination of 20 pounds of beef bones boiled for 2 days, a spoonful of it tastes like a mouthful of wagyu beef + expensive burgundy

[Anonymous No.52631212]

>>52631179
I work at failure mart and our African American Friday was like 10% above forecasts, and forecasts were higher than last year's sales, plus record online sales. If it's at all representative then nigger Friday sales were huge this year

[Anonymous No.52631225]

i just want to have sex with anime girls

[Anonymous No.52631237]

>>52631212
Discount retailers are "inferior goods" in economic terms, so if they're doing well then that's bearish.

[Anonymous No.52631238]

>>52631194
Nah, looks like one of those special hot glue stuff innit.

[Anonymous No.52631239]

>>52631194
Could have just boiled your benis down to make budding

[Anonymous No.52631249]

>>52631237
The dog shit we sell is "inferior goods" by any remotely reasonable or objective assessment

[Anonymous No.52631255]

>>52631212
Bloomberg had a sales report today. Sales were up 2% but inflation was up 8%, so in the end -6%. The economy will continue imploding

[Anonymous No.52631257]

>>52631225
AI can create your 2d wife

[Anonymous No.52631267]

I bumped into an old female friend who I haven’t seen for 15 years whilst out for our work Christmas party, god she was pretty bros green eyes blonde hair mesmerising. She Hugged me when she left smelt amazing

[Anonymous No.52631277]

developing feelings for my childhood friend again
exit all positions

[Anonymous No.52631305]

>>52631277
I think you mean enter in all positions, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.52631340]

>>52631175
if im still bagholding amazon from earlier this year do i have to dca now?

[Anonymous No.52631357]

>>52631100
>up over 10%
>still 24 days left to lose it all

[Anonymous No.52631379]

Nigger

[Anonymous No.52631380]

>>52631100
>>52629449
You think there’s still room to get into this market? My friend is an amateur mycologist, we’ve been talking about starting a psych mushroom growing business for a couple years

[Anonymous No.52631390]

>>52631267
Jesus Christ this place is pathetic. I need to stop coming here

[Anonymous No.52631399]

>>52631267
why didn't you fuck her?

[Anonymous No.52631421]

>>52631122
if ur cute you could start an onlyfans

[Anonymous No.52631422]

>>52631399
I don’t think I even remember how to do that, it’s been a while

[Anonymous No.52631430]

[Anonymous No.52631443]

>>52631422
It's instinctual. Put your penis near her hole and it will come naturally.

[Anonymous No.52631444]

>>52631340
Pretty much yeah

[Anonymous No.52631451]

>>52631305
this animu artist is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.52631471]

>>52631430
FUCK, I'm always paranoid about this with lathes

[Anonymous No.52631478]

>>52631471
you should be. if you get complacent with lathes they will fuck you up

[Anonymous No.52631487]

>>52631277
>>52631267
who would win?

[Anonymous No.52631509]

>>52631212
Basketball Americans are also notoriously terrible at money management and probably don’t realize we’re heading into a recession. They just want a new TV to BE WATCHIN DAT HOOP BALL AND MUH HOMIEZ LEBRUNN JAMES.

[Anonymous No.52631520]

first for $SKYT

[Anonymous No.52631526]

>>52631487
everyone

[Anonymous No.52631605]

I'm up 4% this year despite the broader market being down 15-20%.
So why do I feel like a failure?

[Anonymous No.52631642]

>>52631605
You didn't adjust for daily inflation.

[Anonymous No.52631680]

WEEEEEEEEEEEE
AHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.52631701]

>>52631680
here have a relaxing song to settle down to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWjr7WuiRdY

[Anonymous No.52631730]

>>52631175
All billionaires get a kick out of scaring millions of people with their announcements. I disregard their opinions and fart in their general direction.

[Anonymous No.52631751]

>>52631194
did you make it?
what's the recipe?
also
>larping as a dead tranny

[Anonymous No.52631781]

>>52631194
Hi RKG, while you were gone I heard someone who was saying that futures don't mean anything and have nothing to do with the real market. Is that really true?

[Anonymous No.52631819]

I've never had sex with a woman.

[Anonymous No.52631841]

Jesus Christ

31:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVJVNloA7Ng

[Anonymous No.52631844]

>>52631819
Eventually it will be your turn

[Anonymous No.52631875]

Anyone else think google is a shitty stock
>indian ceo
>no innovations for 10 years, only acquisitions
>search engine getting shittier and shitter, will be useless with AI written SEO once they are perfected
>there can only be so many ads they can sell
>data protection getting stronger and stronger
>no dividend despite clearly having peaked
seriously, what the fuck does this company have going for it?

[Anonymous No.52631893]

>>52631819
Me neither. Instead I invested in a 1:1 pussy and ass. Cost me $150 and is doing fine for me so far. I don't want to create a family either, so I think I'm good.

[Anonymous No.52631910]

>>52631875
>seriously, what the fuck does this company have going for it?
You aren't long on it.

[Anonymous No.52631911]

>>52631605

>Dark Winter
>Threat to our democracy
>chilling
>It was a Dark and stormy night in a dark dark forest.

Too bad they over use the scary words

[Anonymous No.52631927]

you will own nvthing
and you will be happy

[Anonymous No.52631928]

>>52631430
https://youtu.be/zdJGKp1i81c

[Anonymous No.52631934]

>>52631910
i am actually, indirectly via broad market ETFs and TECH etfs. But I would never ever buy this stock individually. Same with tesla.

[Anonymous No.52631945]

>>52631875
Android
YouTube
Waymo
Deepmind
Quantum computer
Invest heavily into AI and AI chips

Everyone calling for big tech to become dividend boomer stocks are the same crying over Intel, IBM, Kodak, GE

[Anonymous No.52631955]

>>52631945
of everything you've mentioned android is the only thing that is cash flow positive.

[Anonymous No.52631964]

>>52631955
Then buy your garbage low PE shit that don't innovate or build for the future

[Anonymous No.52631969]

>>52631964
I bought meta at 10 p/e a couple weeks ago that is still innovating and building for the future

[Anonymous No.52631972]

Should I make new mail account before registering for broker? I am a complete newfag to this and am trying to make my first baby step

[Anonymous No.52631976]

>>52631969
>that is still innovating

[Anonymous No.52631983]

>>52631972
make it your secure safe personal email. i have two emails, one for my bank and brokerage and serious things. and other for online shopping, doordash concerts etc.

[Anonymous No.52631984]

>>52631972
nah just use your normal email, or really whatever email you want your broker to use to communicate with you. if you are an absolute newfren then i do want to say welcome, you're in for a wild ride if you stick through it long enough. we like to have fun here

[Anonymous No.52631987]

>>52631983
Do I use my real name or anything is fine? Since brokerage checks personal information I don't want to look untrustworthy.

[Anonymous No.52631991]

>>52631972
whatever you do, dont buy options

[Anonymous No.52632011]

>>52631987
you kinda *have* to use your real information since a lot of transactions are tax reportable and to open your account will require a tax ID number of some kind. otherwise the account might get tagged as fraud, locked up, and then you can't do anything (or having to go through tons of hoops)

[Anonymous No.52632016]

>>52631987
use all real info for your brokerage account, they will check who you are and phone you potentially too. i dont think the name on the email is important but make sure its secure and you can remember it ofcourse

[Anonymous No.52632106]

>>52631969
>He thinks it's a 10 p/e
>Earnings continue to drop

[Anonymous No.52632126]

>>52631194
Sounds fucking good, to be honest, but doesn't 20 pounds of beef bones also cost you majorly.

[Anonymous No.52632165]

>>52631194
Where do I buy it from?

[Anonymous No.52632169]

>>52631927
There has caught to be a class action lawsuit lurking in the wings over shit like that.

[Anonymous No.52632329]

Ok I am in. What do I do now.

[Anonymous No.52632351]

>>52631987
Just put in whatever you want man.
Ask the crypto guys, cash gang, or pmg. None of them give their real info.

Don't trust the glowies in the thread.
They are just IRS agents trying to tax you.

[Anonymous No.52632354]

>>52631927
Didn’t they already try this and people just jailbroke shit and overclocked

[Anonymous No.52632462]

>>52632329
you transfer money into the account, and you use that money to buy/sell things to make more money

[Anonymous No.52632463]

>>52631972
DONT BUY USE MARGIN AND DONT FUCK WITH OPTIONS IF YOURE NEW. BUY SHARES.

[Anonymous No.52632464]

Why does /smg/ fundamental analysis mostly boil down to the opposite of whatever Twitter is saying

[Anonymous No.52632483]

>twitter
99% bot spam by corpüo clowns trying to coerce other bots into positions
>/biz/
75% bots, they are ignored

[Anonymous No.52632509]

>>52632464
Figure out who you want to inverse.

[Anonymous No.52632530]

>>52631945
>Waymo
wat?
>Deepmind
wat?
>Quantum computer
lmao, like the D-Wave hoax?
>Invest heavily into AI and AI chips
oh, they're investing, are they getting anything out of it?

[Anonymous No.52632549]

Looking at AMGN and LLY, what did we miss? Why did noone predict that healthcare stocks will go up 20-50% this year while the rest of the market sunk?

[Anonymous No.52632571]

>>52632549
I remember Burry was in a bunch of healthcare stocks last year and everyone was wondering why.

[Anonymous No.52632594]

>>52632571
Don't recall it, missed this one unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.52632609]

>>52632530
Artificial Indians have been trying to shill their bags of worthless grifts now for a years on here, /g/, /wsg/ and /pol/ - all they managed to get out are shitty chat bots and diffusion images. Current AI approach is nonsense and esg grifting

[Anonymous No.52632610]

We are getting heemed tomorrow. I intend to panic sell everything on open. Seems like the most rational play.

[Anonymous No.52632613]

How tf do I check if my Alpaca account is activated

[Anonymous No.52632627]

does anybody have balls to buy creditsuisse? 100% gains in a recovery so far 3% dividend yield if the stock doesn't recover much but they pay the same dividend yield as in 2019 you will have a diviend yield of 6-8%

[Anonymous No.52632629]

>>52632609
desu making diffusion images is fun for making waifus, but also not something worth investing in.

[Anonymous No.52632631]

Credit card usage soaring, savings accounts at all time lows, massive lay offs, and inflation still might rise again...how much more can this economy take before it pops?

[Anonymous No.52632636]

>>52632629
>fun
outside of public fund grifting and tax evasion its generally worthless, like all art

[Anonymous No.52632677]

>>52632609
Yeah, current approach seems to be feeding more and more data into the models just so that they have more things to reproduce. Good example is AI that writes stories for you.
Might as well write an algorithm that does it for you, also using existing book excerpts as a data source like current AI models do. Noone ever did that though because there was never a monetary incentive to do that. But because current solutions are based on AI, they lure in investors. Kinda smells like dotcom bubble.

[Anonymous No.52632689]

>>52632636
>worthless
wtf did you just say about my Chechen AI waifu?

[Anonymous No.52632702]

>>52632613
Someone please answer. I confirmed registration and there is no indication whether account is activated or waiting for verification. I don't wanna put money in non-activate account.

[Anonymous No.52632717]

>>52632631
Forgot to mention railroad strikes might be happening in December. I'm gonna have to prepare for that shit to go down in case

https://youtu.be/aULRHXZz6ss

[Anonymous No.52632732]

>>52632677
In the end it has no value. It is neither creating innovations or real growth nor does it reduce costs for existing processes. Just a bunch of grifters that managed to find retards with big credit lines buying their pitches and funding their life styles.
Typical millenial bullshit

[Anonymous No.52632784]

I'm shorting airlines

https://youtu.be/r7KAbJk1Pck

[Anonymous No.52632798]

ai will enhance new innovations and reduce costs for many companies creating new processes and lower costs for film animation media even if what they pump out is bullshit. It might be overvalued but its not worthless

[Kai Goulter No.52632804]

You know the reason that your boss got gutted hedging on BTC as the "best" "storage of wealth" that turned out to be ye ol' snake oil of the modern age causing now 7% of intitutions is on +500BEPIS? Alameda Research.

>>52632226
>>52632226
>>52632226
Just as depicted in the Vuvuzela Scrolls...Caroline is getting BLACKED!

>Be comfortable with risk, Caroline. Enjoy the Big Black Mirror Walk of Shame. Baka.

[Anonymous No.52632873]

when small cap rotation bros

[Anonymous No.52632902]

>>52632873
after the true™ bottom

[Anonymous No.52632908]

>>52632902
are we there yet

[Anonymous No.52632915]

>>52632908
No, we're at the top of a crab market rally.

[Anonymous No.52632916]

>>52632549
>>52632571
>>52632594
>LLY
>P/E 54

[Anonymous No.52632966]

>shits on your CCP stocks

[Anonymous No.52632977]

>>52632916
Yeah, not sure what's going on. You'd think that in times when bubble is deflating, every part of the market would be affected equally.

[Anonymous No.52633022]

>>52632798
the only value artificial indians have is getting access to public funds. It is a pure grift on the same as all other transhumanist scams of the past 40 years, be it "renewable" energy, rna jabbing, mass imigration and other lanes of ideological corruption with 0 value

[Anonymous No.52633125]

>>52632549
Healthcare is recession resistant and Eli lily has an effective weight loss drug. I am not betting against that

[Anonymous No.52633161]

>>52631179
News is saying black Friday was a record high. ?

[Anonymous No.52633173]

>>52633161
That’s the online sales

[Anonymous No.52633247]

>>52632329
Transfer money into your brokerage account. when the market open on the weekdays 9-4pm, you can buy some financial assets like stocks. buy VTI

[Anonymous No.52633270]

>>52633161
People are spamming the shit out of their credit cards. Basically a buy now pay never strat. I'm telling you all, this fucking bubble is going to explode and the shockwave will be devastating.

[Anonymous No.52633296]

>>52633161
news is retarded
>despite inflation worries, black friday spending was up 14%! guess everything is ok!
holy fuck can they literally not put 2 and 2 together

[Anonymous No.52633304]

I have so much cash on hand. Thinking of buying a house in the spring but GIC rates just passed 5% and stocks I want are on sale still.
How do any of you manage to keep cash when so many great returns are waiting for us?
I want a house but I like getting paid for my cash more.

[Anonymous No.52633305]

Maybe people spent so much on Black Friday cause they wanted to save money on what they wanted for the year.

[Anonymous No.52633323]

>>52633304
i just try not to think about it, you could get a better deal in 6 months prob

[Anonymous No.52633344]

>>52633305
i looked but ended up not buying anything
nothing even remotely useful was on sale, just chinese plastic
I would have traded a 50% discount on that smart tv for a 50% discount on my grocery cart any day of the week

[Anonymous No.52633351]

>>52633323
Better deal on a house? Almost sure to be true. Already seeing nice stuff sitting up for months. One I was thinking of offering on got taken down without a sale. House prices in freefall. Gotta love winter in Canada.
Better deal on GIC's and stocks? Probably, but I'll also have more money to keep buying. Why not get some interests and dividends paying out now? No guarantee prices/rates will keep going in this direction.

[Anonymous No.52633369]

>>52633351
i’ve got a 500-600k lump sum coming in next year and i can’t figure out if i want to buy up real estate on sale or dump it all into USAC and just leave it there

[Anonymous No.52633375]

>>52633351
yea i meant house prices. i think rates may have peaked and have been seeing high interest savings account ads if ur in canada you can buy CASH.to its very liquid

[Anonymous No.52633382]

>>52631380
Mushrooms will be even cheaper than weed after legalization. A dose costs pennies to produce. Price will fall off the cliff in a legalized mass production environment. Only way to make any money will be hiring roasties with therapy degrees to do guided trips.

>>52631422
>wow you look great. It's nice running into you
>small talk
>want to grab a coffee or lunch sometime?
>give number or get rejected (ohh sorry anon I am seeing Chad right now)

Either way you get a conclusion instead of tard posting about it on 4chan and jerking off to 2d girls while you drink yourself to sleep

>>52631605
I'm up 25% this month but being down 10% last week made me feel like a failure. Trading is very emotional don't make emotional reactions. Riding all my puts that mostly just lost value to time and volatility while market price didn't even really change much last week.

[Anonymous No.52633428]

>>52633375
I do not understand how cash.to works. This is new. Thanks for the homework buddy. I can't keep being this ignorant.

[Anonymous No.52633443]

>>52633022
It's just a tool that can be used by anyone in multiple ways, not just corruptive narratives

[Anonymous No.52633467]

>>52631841
Anyone that actually touches grass and interacts with blue collar/lower class goys knows all of this is true. It blows my mind that the rich and tech fags don't understand most normies work 2-3 jobs or one job that offers a shitton of overtime just to barely scrape by every week with minimum payments on debt that keeps growing (and now interest rates/foos/housing/energy all continue to increase)

It blows my mind these faggots get paid God knows how much(6-7 figs) to do all these wordy reports about poors being poor and continuing to get poorer like it's some fucking surprise

>>52631875
I wouldn't long Google, apple or tesla. They are mostly just propped up by boomer 401ks that dca into sp500 every week no matter what. I really do think indexs take a massive haircut in the future and "bro just dca inflated bags" every week is going to be a less popular investment strategy in the future. Boomers are all cashing out in the next decade.. do you wanna long boomer bags? I know I dont

[Anonymous No.52633468]

>>52633428
it's just a money market fund
give me your money i will invest it for you (all in selling naked calls)

[Anonymous No.52633472]

>>52631422
Well find out what unit she works at and ask her to marry you. Most work places have a work phone book. Look her up. You can also ask coworkers if they know where she is so you can sexually harass her on the job. Women love that.

[Anonymous No.52633519]

Will goldbugs finally get to cum in the coming months?

[Anonymous No.52633528]

>>52633443
no, as long as incentives exist that are basically risk free for the individuals engaging by socializing the costs and risks its an invitation for any tool or tech to become eventually just a grift vehicle and makes it not just worthless but a pure cost in and on itself

[Anonymous No.52633529]

i got a confession to make SMG, i called the early october bottom, i could feel it in my bones, just like oct 2020 oil... i just knew it. and like both times i loaded up half my net worth in my stock pics and FUCKING SOLD A WEEK LATER PAPER FUCKING HANDS
right now id be sitting on 20k gains
FUCK
that 20k would put me over the top too, im so close to having enough cash to pay off my jew mortgage and be debt free forever, oh well id better have a decent year wage cucking

[Anonymous No.52633542]

>>52631175
>Doesn't help that China is crumbling right now from protests, camps and other bullshit.

source? they got FEMA camps now over there or something? are there protests actually doing anything yet or are they still just being beaten by police? i haven't been paying attention sorry. i guess that's what they get for not having a 2nd amendment, though.

[Anonymous No.52633554]

>>52632549
Cuz anyone who invests in that shit is a scumbag. Just buy mrna and pfe then. Also buy those prison stocks and rub your hands together.

[Anonymous No.52633569]

>>52633369
USAC is gonna get heemed -30% when russia/Ukraine war ends.. housing is going to get heemed 30% too. Depends when you get the money and what the state of the market is at the time

>>52633542
They have had camps for the Muslims and undesirables for years.. but chinks are getting pretty uppity now about the zero covid policy not working and they have record covid cases. Foxconn factory that makes 50-70% of the iPhones in the world is basically non operational and currently paying people just to quit and leave instead of riot.

[Anonymous No.52633574]

>>52632627
Theirs and bank of America have the highest yielding investment grade corpo bonds at about 7-8%

[Anonymous No.52633584]

>>52633569
chinks and their fear of the coof are hiliarious, i have the wuhan flu right now and i'm not vaccinated, i've been completely fucking fine

[Anonymous No.52633608]

>>52633382
what do you do if your problem is that you love the aethetic of beautiful women and have an instinctual need to fuck them until you cum inside them, but at the same time you know how terrible women are especially in modern western society and hate women so much it's unreal? like, i seriously don't get why any man would want to be around a woman 24/7 and live with them, like they're just there, around you, all the time, being a woman. and you just have to deal with that shit, all the time. never ending. now you're married to one and you have a financial obligation to stay with them even if they're a bitch, even if they stop having sex with you and start gaining weight. seems like hell.

i guess my point is, it's sorta like that old adage: "You don't pay a woman to have sex with you, you pay them to leave afterwards." I wish they'd just legalize and regulate prostitution already on the federal level in the US. or at least make sex bots. the question really just feels like how do you get the experience of sex with a loving woman (or the closest thing to simulating that) without actually having to deal with women themselves, who are awful human beings i typically never want to be around? do you know what i mean?

[Anonymous No.52633615]

>>52633161
>black Friday spending up 3%!
>near zero in person spending
>when inflation this year is up 7%+
>when savings are at 2-3% on average

[Anonymous No.52633616]

>>52633584
It's about power and obedience. They will never stop the zero covid policy and they will use it to identify the few men in that country that still have a spine and kill them so only the most obedient bugs remain. Its insane to watch a country practice reverse eugenics for generations just to create human cuck meat robots that will put plastic bullshit together for other countries

[Anonymous No.52633634]

>>52633569
>They have had camps for the Muslims and undesirables for years..

oh, that's nothing. i thought that anon was talking about new shit, like they're putting rioting chinks in camps now or something. the muslim shit is old news and no one really cares, for better or worse.

like, my question is: are the chinks actually DOING anything that ACTUALLY MATTERS against their totalitarian government? cause it seems like they have it pretty well locked down over there with the boot on the chink peasants' throats. i'd love to hear of the People of China actually fucking shit up in some real way for a change instead of lightly protesting and then getting beaten repeatedly by the police until morale improves.

[Anonymous No.52633642]

Also for the tsm bros. Taiwan just had a silent coup. The anti mainlander party will be deposed of in 2024 presidential election.

[Anonymous No.52633648]

>>52633634
>are the chinks actually DOING anything that ACTUALLY MATTERS against their totalitarian government
are amerishits doing anything against theirs?

[Anonymous No.52633653]

>>52633642
Peaceful reunification when?

[Anonymous No.52633684]

>>52633634
At Foxconn they are doing something. Iphone14 is delayed and Apple should get heemed (which usually heems the entire US clown economy based off one phone company having a 2.5T market cap). They were down 2% on Friday.

>>52633608
>always sunny image
Great show

I've only had one relationship where we could live together and be around each other 100% of the time. I met her when she was 19 and I was 24 in college so I don't think I'll be able to find that dynamic again where a young genuine person thinks you are chad and shapes herself into what would make you happy.

Nowadays I don't take it too seriously man. If you didn't find one and lock it down when you were young it's just a bunch of parasites that want some or your money/status/entertainment in exchange for renting their holes. I just coom and try not to dwell on it too much.

[Anonymous No.52633688]

>>52633616
>Its insane to watch a country practice reverse eugenics for generations just to create human cuck meat robots that will put plastic bullshit together for other countries

isn't that a failing gameplan, though? isn't everyone pulling out of China now and will only continue to do so because no one trusts them and everyone honestly just hates them at this point? same deal with Russia. both Covid and the Ukraine war were major wake-up calls to the rest of the world, as far as i can see. people are making their own shit more and more, "Reshoring" is now a thing. Many companies are moving their shit to other asian countries and building new factories elsewhere. On top of this, China's population is in decline is gets more expensive every year. they're not the super cheap labor that they used to be nowadays. once their current population gets old and the demographic collapse really rapes them, they're basically done as a country. idk what happens after that, but i assure you they're completely fucked at this point due to demographic collapse alone from the one child policy, and that's not even getting into all of the other major problems they have (i could post some videos if you're interested).

i just hope i live long enough to see China's and Russia's chickens come home to roost. Hell even in the US, the pendulum is swinging the other way from chaos back to order. Hopefully that resolves itself peacefully and doesn't result in civil war, but SOMETHING is gonna happen as the pushback against the woke shit just gets louder and louder. They fucked around and now we're in the "find out" phase.

[Anonymous No.52633701]

>>52633648
we don't have a one party communist totalitarian regime in the US (yet).

[Anonymous No.52633712]

>>52632610
Godammit f you make me go to reddit to get the rest of this story...

[Anonymous No.52633718]

Jokes on you I'm only down 63%

[Anonymous No.52633724]

>>52632717
Burger of nothing.

[Anonymous No.52633736]

>>52633688
It is definitely a failing game plan. Apple and other companies are already starting to move their slave factories to India and you can see how the Indian markets are doing very well this year and Chinese markets are fucked. Anyone that thinks China is going to be a good investment or grow in the future is retarded. Their game plan doesn't seem well thought out at all I think it's just a few Chinese jews at the top trying to have all the money and power at the cost of their countries future. Most of the Uber rich Chinese long term plan seems to be just to leave China and move to other countries like Us/Canada where they send their kids to buy property and move money into safer economies

[Anonymous No.52633739]

>>52633701
what about le heckin election fraud?

[Anonymous No.52633746]

>>52633468
But why it saw tooth? How can you hold something that fluctuates so much?

[Anonymous No.52633752]

>>52633684
>Nowadays I don't take it too seriously man. If you didn't find one and lock it down when you were young it's just a bunch of parasites that want some or your money/status/entertainment in exchange for renting their holes. I just coom and try not to dwell on it too much.

this is basically what i figured. thus the hope for legalized prostitution. i just want something like a nice steakhouse restaurant that you'd go to at the end of a long week. except for sex.

[Anonymous No.52633767]

>>52633739
just adding more fuel to the fire. it's gonna take a lot to push the right out of their comfort zone but goddammit the leftists are trying their hardest, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.52633808]

>>52633684
>I met her when she was 19 and I was 24 in college
what happened?

[Anonymous No.52633817]

>>52632354
No point in buying a car like this anymore. If you hack your own car, I'm sure it voids any warranty. Or the dealer will refuse to preform any maintenance on it when you bring it in.

>Sorry sir
>We can't do any maintenance on your vehicle until we reset your entire computer
>That costs 12k for a proper reset

[Anonymous No.52633849]

>>52633467
Yeah. Also Peter Schiff brought this stuff up long time ago. Around month ago Powel said that people have biggest savings ever, when single look at Personal Saving Rate, published on St. Louis Fed website shows clearly that opposite is true. Saving rate is down, new credit card accounts are booming. No wonder unemployment is low when people are forced to work just to pay bills. Families no longer can afford one of the parents to stay home and take care of the kids.

[Anonymous No.52633868]

>>52632915

[Anonymous No.52633886]

>>52633808
We were together for 7 years and engaged for two. Her family was very rich and mine is an absolute dumpster fire. Her family disapproved of marrying down was probably the biggest stressor but there were lots of variables. They bought her a house and car after we broke up so she wouldn't be sad lol. Both of their daughters are heading into their 30s now with no kids and unmarried so maybe they will get what the deserve in the end. At least they have good jobs or whatever.. since that's what life is all about.. her dad had a whole office full of participation trophies and certifications all over the wall he had paid for as some kind of cope that he wasn't a cringe fat alcoholic

[Anonymous No.52633890]

>>52633868
lmao brilliant

[Anonymous No.52633897]

>>52633886
So basically her family pressured her into not marrying you?

[Anonymous No.52633903]

>>52633886
based, sounds like in your case the parents did their job right.

[Anonymous No.52633908]

>>52633304
I have a fat stack of cash as well but I’ve just been DCA-ing stocks/btc. These rates are atrocious, I want a house so bad. I have ability to use a VA loan but still want to wait until mortgage rates go back down. I know JPOW lurks here. Jerome, if you’re reading this please turn on the printer so I can get a 2% fixed.

[Anonymous No.52633917]

>>52633886
Missed the bullet really. Imagine if you had to deal with her family and her mood swings caused by being torn apart by feelings towards you and her family.

[Anonymous No.52633926]

>>52633382
Is that batch yours? They look like Penis Envy’s. I love shroomies man, just did some a few weeks ago. What tickets you looking at for mushy legalization?

[Anonymous No.52633934]

>>52633736
A lot of these horrifically evil plans that evil people come up with rarely work out as planned. The human spirit is incredibly flexible but never breaks. Eventually when people are pushed far enough, they bounce back. I think it's possible we see a full scale civil war if china doesn't quit shitting all over their own people like they are. Even the United States government knows when to fuck off when it comes to fucking with their own people.

[Anonymous No.52633936]

>>52633917
>>52633903
>>52633897

We both knew it was over when we were on really nice vacations in Europe/Asia and staying in luxury resorts and I still wanted to blow my fucking brains out every day because of her cringe family.

[Anonymous No.52633940]

>>52633247
Convince me VTI is better than VOO

[Anonymous No.52633943]

How do you feel about Qualcomm? I bought at 65, it's my best performing stock. But of course all signs point to poor performance in the future
Should I take my winnings after it goes ex dividend?

[Anonymous No.52633949]

>>52633908
>I want a house so bad

just live with your parents lmao. i get to live in a nice comfy house in a good neighborhood i could never be even close to affording if i were on my own. wish things weren't as fucked up as they currently are but if that's the case im gonna survive, adapt, and overcum.

[Anonymous No.52633969]

>>52633926
Yeh that's an old batch I did. I don't have any money in mushroom legalization like I said I don't think it will be very profitable.. just like weed stocks.. the stuff is cheap and the market will be flooded

>>52633934
I dunno man the Chinese are so buck broken I don't even know if they can resist in any organized fashion. Technology is so advanced now governments can just identify wrong think and send you to the gulags in the back of a van within hours of you saying something against the ccp

[Anonymous No.52633982]

>>52633949
Living with your parents is soul crushing. That's literally why people want their own houses. Maybe you're young so it's no big deal but the older you get, the worse it feels. I don't know that I could ever let myself get to a position where I have to live with my parents again.

[Anonymous No.52634009]

>>52633569
imagine thinking i would buy before that happens
imagine thinking i’d hold USAC for the stock price

[Anonymous No.52634034]

not to be an insufferable faggot but SPY will tap 407-408, maybe on dovish Jpow Wed?

[Anonymous No.52634035]

>>52633982
im 32 and it feels great. we all help each other out and share our resources, and genuinely enjoy each other's company. try being white in a family of electrical engineers who actually love you, you fucking loser, lmao. i unironically feel bad for you anons who are like this, i know most people aren't as lucky as i am. but i guess im lucky and im not going to apologize for it, i'll just be thankful for it.

[Anonymous No.52634037]

>>52633982
Your wife will divorce you and then you'll be the 43 year old living on your mom's couch.

[Anonymous No.52634051]

>>52633969
I suppose that would be the counter argument and also why the WEF wants to exterminate the United States. Half of the United States is pissed and violent at any given time over the dumbest bullshit imaginable. The extreme shit china pulls would never fly over here. But you've seen the Chinese have started protesting this zero covid policy over there more and more and there are a billion of those bugs over there. Could get interesting

[Anonymous No.52634052]

>>52632702
jump in front of a train retard fucking annoying dimwit

[Anonymous No.52634057]

>>52633304
>buy a house when rates are just going to keep going up but home values are only down like 5% from the top
>'stocks on sale' when we're only 7% down from the top on the DJIA and things have about 10,000 points to fall from here
Things are going to become worse than anyone thought possible. I should have knocked up that feminist abortionist girl in 2017.

[Anonymous No.52634059]

Good morning. Sunday morning.

[Anonymous No.52634063]

>>52634035
good for you anon, honestly everything is fuckin great if you just remind yourself to stay thankful

[Anonymous No.52634072]

>>52634035
It shouldn't feel great. At the end of the day you are not a man you are still a child. You are supposed to leave the nest and carve your own path, instead you refuse to grow as a person. I have to hand it to you though, a 32 year old basement dweller calling me a "fucking loser" almost made me spit out my tea.
>>52634037
My wife literally can't leave me.

[Anonymous No.52634079]

>Pre-Futures

[Anonymous No.52634089]

Joined a third world country's stock exchange.
They have really low volumes (2-10k daily)
Any strategy i could use?

[Anonymous No.52634111]

>>52634072
>You are supposed to leave
uh oh here comes the morality police WEE WOO WEE WOO

fuck you faggot i'll do whatever i want and have a great life while your wife cucks you, kek. and yes, you're a fucking loser who's family hates them. thank God that's not me.

[Anonymous No.52634116]

>>52634034
i think we pump and then jpow rugs us
dovish and jpow don't belong in the same sentence

[Anonymous No.52634119]

>>52634072
>you have to be a debt slave to be a man

Post nose

[Anonymous No.52634140]

>>52634063
i know, and im very thankful for my family. and i know lots of people out there unfortunately have terrible relationships with their family. i just think it's kind of pathetic to act all high and mighty and morally superior just because your parents hate you. sad, really. that anon must be in a lot of pain right now. i wish him the best.

[Anonymous No.52634156]

>>52634111
I have great parents who I love very much. You can do whatever the hell you want with your life it's your choice. You never have to grow up if you don't want to, and you've clearly chosen to that path.
>>52634119
You don't have to take on debt. If you're in a position where you are stuck living at home, you should be saving all your money to purchase something cash or be able to make a massive down payment.

[Anonymous No.52634164]

>>52634116
yeah blood green tuesday + wednesday jpow rug feeling all too familiar

[Anonymous No.52634182]

>>52634156
Telling people to buy a house at 8% right now is the most Jewish shit I've ever heard in my life. You should be ashamed of yourself cohen goldmanbergbankstein. You really are cursed people and I hope hell is real

[Anonymous No.52634186]

>>52634164
if only you knew how bad things really are

[Anonymous No.52634190]

>people need to work to stay afloat
>low unemployment
>jpow mad that people are working
>when the fed literally caused the problem

Modern Economics everyone

[Anonymous No.52634192]

>>52634089
Probably trend following, I heard someone say the Mexican stock exchange has a few good domestic stocks and the price action is smoother.

[Anonymous No.52634200]

>>52634156
>I have great parents

no you don't, you fucking liar. is this how you cope with your shitty life? pathetic. now not only are you a loser, but a liar on top of that. it just keeps getting worse for you.

[Anonymous No.52634206]

>>52634182
Dod you just not read anything I just said? I didn't say you have to buy a house tomorrow. You are supposed to be saving. The housing market is going to collapse and there are going to be some once in a generation opportunities to buy a home in the near future. The mortgage business is dead.

[Anonymous No.52634209]

>>52634035
no gf tho right?

[Anonymous No.52634215]

>>52634186
this is the kind of technical analysis i come here for. i wonder what the winrate is if you just made trades based off of what the Fed is doing.

[Anonymous No.52634220]

>>52634200
So much projection in one post kek. Living with your parents has really done a number on you. I can tell you hate it.

[Anonymous No.52634228]

>>52631927
I'm just gonna hack my car. These fucking gay nerds wanna play hardball. I'll install Linux Computer.

[Anonymous No.52634250]

>>52634206
Obviously someone living with their parents should be buying thousands of shares of SQQQ instead of buying a fucking house that is about to lose 30% of its fake value based entirely on low interest rates.

Shit all in DRV and bet against the housing market and use the gains to buy a house.

No one said he shouldn't be saving/investing. You David silverberg are the one that told him to hurry up and buy a house. I'm tired of you fucking moloch worshipping baby dick sucking faggots

[Anonymous No.52634253]

>>52631927
>locking acceleration behind a paywall
RIP Mercedes. You literally just heemed your own business.

[Anonymous No.52634260]

>>52634220
i accept your concession :^)

[Anonymous No.52634268]

>>52631340
Kek. that’s exactly what this means.

[Anonymous No.52634367]

Can I get TA on this chart? I just find it weird.

[Anonymous No.52634375]

>>52634057
What do I do with all this cash?
Dividends are about to push me back to positive for the year. Dry powder is stacking up.
Canada money is nearly worthless. Maybe I should put a bunch of it into JPY? Seems to be at a peak vs CAD

[Anonymous No.52634381]

>>52634367
>2 million dollars of volume
we call that the shitcoin pennystock chart

[Anonymous No.52634391]

>>52634367
Gap up, fill the gap, continue uptrend.

[Anonymous No.52634397]

>>52634375
hodl because the recession+fed tightening will cause deflation to offset the nearly double digit inflation QE money printer has caused
>CAD
buy usd
the bank of japan literally doesn't know how to do anything other than QE, the only reason USD/JPY isn't at 200 is because the BOJ has a huge amount of dollar reserves to dump

[Anonymous No.52634398]

So what's the plan for monday. Me, I'm just gonna go into the office and do "nothing" as normal. Come to think of it, about all I've done the past four days is visit family,ate good food, spent time with my wife and done "nothing" for the rest of it. So hey no mater what I get to do nothing.

[Anonymous No.52634408]

>>52631927
>>52634228
https://nostarch.com/carhacking

[Anonymous No.52634466]

>>52634408
Jesus

[Anonymous No.52634471]

>>52634408
>open up!!! It's the consoomer police, we understand you're resisting consuming!!!!

[Anonymous No.52634472]

What's up with last week's KOLD shilling? Did I miss the thread where everyone agreed to write KOLD instead of BOIL?

[Anonymous No.52634493]

>>52634367
Sure, fren.

[Anonymous No.52634496]

Google's image search engine has gone downhill big time. Used to be I could upload some hentai image to find largest resolution/size possible of it. Now it's a 50/50 deal on if it'd even pull up anything. Also it'd used to tell you the resolution of the image right in the results. So anymore I use yandrex. It works.

[Anonymous No.52634523]

>>52634472
Not everything is paid shill. Some of us made good money on KOLD anon.

[Anonymous No.52634526]

>>52634472
Gas to $5

[Anonymous No.52634538]

>>52631100
I'm a newfag. Should I invest more in Apple and Microsoft? Or should I invest in VOO? I read we are heading to a recession. Does that I mean I should wait first?

[Anonymous No.52634545]

>>52634538
Invest in oil refiners like PBF DK PSX VLO MPC

[Anonymous No.52634555]

>>52634538
I would recommend diversification between assets classes. Definitely VOO, but also consider throwing in some bonds and commodities

[Anonymous No.52634606]

>>52634555
>but also consider throwing in some bonds and commodities
What would be the safe option? I'm not a genius trader and I didn't my have the time so I plan on buying and forgetting it. I have liquid 10k I'm willing to lose.

[Anonymous No.52634648]

How do you guys decide how to enter trades? Are you just a "the trend is your friend until the end" type of trader? do you scalp? what sort of risk management do you use? how do you decide which sorts of stocks to trade? do you day trade or swing trade or position trade?

why don't we share more with each other? fuck the shilling pennyshits stuff, how about we talk about our actual strategies for making money in the markets for a change? the reasoning behind our decisions and how effective that has been? i know im probably gonna get meme'd on this topic but i actually sincerely would like to talk about trading strategy with other people and i don't know where else on the internet i could go besides here.

[Anonymous No.52634662]

>>52634648
I’ve been trying to spark discussion on this for the last few weeks, good luck anon… this weekend has been pretty much the best smg I’ve seen and it’s been nearly no actual stock discussion

[Anonymous No.52634664]

>>52634648
>why don't we share more with each other?
zoomer smartphone niggers that gamble options took over the threads, if you mention fundamentals or TA they seethe and screech, it isn't worth it

[Anonymous No.52634671]

I got your "natural gas" right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBFaCS_PV4

[Anonymous No.52634698]

>>52632915
>>52633868
nom nom nom

[Anonymous No.52634713]

>>52634538
All-in drip calls

[Anonymous No.52634724]

>>52633467
In Canada people are already having problems affording their mortgage payments, and we aren't even done with rate hikes, and people haven't lost their jobs yet

[Anonymous No.52634740]

>>52634606
Wait for the next market pullback and just buy JEPI. I'm hoping for another chance at it under $50. Its safe boomer shit and pays a monthly divvy and should track the same as voo or vti or maybe even just straight up outperform them. I think the markets are going to get heemed soon though so I wouldn't buy any longs right now

>>52634648
Autism. Swing trade with week/month time horizons for trades. Try to time tops and bottoms even if you aren't exactly you can get very close. I'm not a 6-7 fig fag so going long with 5 figs is retarded. Mostly stock or etfs instead of gambling on a particular ticker.

Have a directional thesis and stick to it. Commodities trade cyclically they don't just moon forever (especially when the fed is trying to get them to come down).

Kold/drip/sqqq/drv

>>52634523
>>52634472

I'm not a paid shill but that would be nice. Glad some of you frens made $. I'm long 400 shares of KOLD to $18-20 atleast and willing to double down if KOLD goes to 9-10. Already bagged $700 in premiums on covered calls

[Anonymous No.52634748]

>>52632702
Check your spam folder

[Anonymous No.52634768]

>>52634648
My best timed moves are when I feel it. Not FOMO, just when I feel like something is gonna go in a certain direction almost for sure. And not based on just looking at a chart, but based on factors like current levels, events that move things in a guessable direction (opex, earnings). My worst moves are when I think "medium to long term this should go in this direction" and enter the trade as soon as I come to this conclusion, then I'm bagholding for a while.

[Anonymous No.52634777]

>>52633305
Classic scam. Convincing people to over spend now in the hopes of saving money in the future.

[Anonymous No.52634800]

>Invest in MTCH
>Get a gf

Do I sell?

>>52631701
pretty sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5wsT9StFS4

[Anonymous No.52634801]

>>52633529
>May I touch your stock and honor it?
Fixed it

[Anonymous No.52634810]

*ahem*
I have an announcement to make.
Poop.

[Anonymous No.52634827]

>>52634713
Honestly a solid play if you have enough time.. my DRIP calls are for February

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/26/world/americas/venezuela-chevron-oil-us.html

Oil is going back to $60 and people that bought the all time high of oil stocks are going to get fucking heemed

[Anonymous No.52634841]

>>52634662
>>52634664
where do i go to discuss this sort of stuff seriously, then, unironically? is there no other choice than some fucking r*ddit sub?

[Anonymous No.52634877]

>>52634648
I draw up a story in my head of how things are going to go in the mid-long term using broad fundamental facts. Temper it a little for realism. Then I look at a spread of established companies that conform to that narrative and diamond hand long-term because I'm too stupid to properly trade at a profit.

[Anonymous No.52634883]

>>52634777
Based Bullish Trips. consoom and pump my fucking bags you poor pieces of shit

[Anonymous No.52634897]

>>52634471
Is that a McDonald’s patch on his arm? Kek. Don’t fuck with the clown police.

[Anonymous No.52634901]

>>52634841
I’ve heard there are AAII meetups irl for people who are interested in investing, never been myself. Assuming you’re American. If you aren’t you will never make enough money for investing to be relevant so I’d move

[Anonymous No.52634910]

>>52634901
there are non-Americans in these threads? gross.

[Anonymous No.52634921]

Why is it bad to invest in dividend stocks? I can use the dividends to invest in other stocks

[Anonymous No.52634944]

>>52634648
I just start buying slowly and adjust from there. Try to avoid Analysis Paralysis. I buy dividend stocks mostly and adjust positions so I get about the same amount each month.

[Anonymous No.52634947]

>>52634921
lol

[Anonymous No.52634963]

>>52634944
seems like DCA'ing into good companies and either also DCA'ing out or just hodling forever is the easy mode way to invest.

[Anonymous No.52634983]

>>52634921
The dividens come at a cost of having a lower stock price, they have to get the money for divvis somewhere. Also reinvesting the dividens into the same stock would be better. Although having some dividen stocks/ETFs in your portfolio is never a bad idea

[Anonymous No.52634986]

>>52631194
Could make some good Phó with that.

[Anonymous No.52634990]

>>52634921
ever single the epic ZIRP there has been very little in the way of low risk sources of yield
assuming the fed actually protects the dollar eventually bond yields and dividends will start to beat inflation even as the stock market gets completely crunched
The total lack of risk free yield since 2009 is one of the main reasons the stock market pumped so fucking hard. Instead of holding bonds (which produced negative yields) investors have just been dumping everything into index funds.
That paradigm is well on track to being done for.

[Anonymous No.52635006]

>>52634841
Just read as much as you can. You will eventually know what is BS and what is relevant to you. Then you will be able to filter out all the shit posting that goes on. Have you chosen a basic strategy yet?

[Anonymous No.52635015]

>>52631730

[Anonymous No.52635019]

Things look overbought, correction down soon?

[Anonymous No.52635028]

>>52634921
It’s not bad but it is a longer game. Divvy anons are the minority here but we do get monthly cash flow. It’s pretty comfy fren.

[Anonymous No.52635036]

>>52631100

I realized 500% of my OIL gains.

Techtrannies eternally BTFO

Pic related me in Vegas next weekend with a baddie

[Anonymous No.52635040]

>>52634921
Nothing wrong with divvy stocks. A lot of people fail to grasp the simple concept of compound dripping x time. Take KO and VZ. VZ forks out 6%+ yield @ $2.6 annually per share. ($39.xx per share at that). Do you think they'll cut that divvy anytime soon?. Fuck no. People would have to give up their enslavement device (smartphone) and brainwashing tether (internet) first. In the case of KO they'd have to give up soft drinks,juice,coffee, and mixed drinks.

[Anonymous No.52635049]

>>52634963
DCA etfs with decades long time horizon is the easy mode way. Picking good tickers is still a gamble.. plenty of people absolutely raped on blue chips thought to be untouchable this year that may never return to their ath (amazon, tesla, netflix, meta). Either way retail usually isn't prepared when an eventual 50% drawdown of their life savings hits and they panic sell their bags at the bottom and seethe

[Anonymous No.52635065]

>>52631175
so what, cash out? I got a bunch in stocks now. hold me bros

[Anonymous No.52635066]

>>52632571
He liked BMY. I had it at $50ish. I need to stop selling things so much. What’s wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.52635087]

>>52634963
DVC’ing is ok but I don’t do it anymore. Getting fractions of a dividend from from partial shares is kind of ridiculous. I take the cash and add it it to what I deposit and buy as much whole shares as I can afford.

[Anonymous No.52635104]

>>52634983
A dividend stock is worth less right after the payment date because they have less cash on hand but this is when you buy the stock. You don’t really want to purchase it right before payouts.

[Anonymous No.52635125]

>>52635019
I hope so. I can’t buy at these prices. I am looking at FREL right now. 3.9% yield real estate ETF. Still down 25% YTD. What do you think bros?

[Anonymous No.52635134]

>>52634921
>just buy shit stocks dude
>they have divvies, that's like free money bro

[Anonymous No.52635137]

>pre-futures

[Anonymous No.52635150]

>>52635125
I'm new to this, and retarded. So I put my cash into 95% short term treasury bonds in an index fund... waiting for a good moment to buy into some shitty Goldman or Vanguard etfs (VOO). I'm trying to read chicken entrails by looking at the 200 and 50 day moving averages. I'm going to be wrong, miss my buy-in chance and loose out on a great opportunity aren't I?

[Anonymous No.52635158]

>>52631927
Holy kekoli I'm really starting to hate technology.

[Anonymous No.52635160]

>>52634841
I'd reccomend learnings tools, maybe read Security Analysis book, watch Peter Lynch lectures so that you know what pitfalls to avoid.
DCA is quite boring form of investing, but at least I'm not sitting everyday in front of the charts screaming at them and claiming that it makes no sense because market didn't move the way the straight lines I drawn predicted it.
I learned to avoid depending on DD of other people. Quite often those are scams or just misrepresentation of facts. So yeah, I come here just to post and read memes really and talk about macro situation. Sometimes people drop some interesting YouTube channels as well (I learned about Patrick Boyle thanks to /smg/)

[Anonymous No.52635163]

>>52634921
https://www.tipranks.com/tools/dividend-calculator.. Here you go. Nice tool to get you started. Plug in your divvy stock(s) of choice and have fun.

[Anonymous No.52635170]

>>52635150
>So I put my cash into 95% short term treasury bonds
if you keep doing this you'll be up 5ish percent
while shit and piss will be down ????
the next decade will not be great for stocks. braindead dca and hold forever is not going to work. just fyi

[Anonymous No.52635197]

>>52631927
The value of used cars will be increasing. I would never want to buy a subscription for an option the car already has installed. If you don’t have a mechanic your trust best to start looking for one now.

[Overseer of Clowns No.52635218]

>>52631212
>>52631379
>>52634664
>>52633736

[Anonymous No.52635231]

>>52634983
The counter point to that is that people who invest in dividend stocks always get returns, while you can expect 0 retuns from your speculative stock if it's price drops to original value in 10 years.
This is effect is especially strengthened by the fact that speculative stocks often get overpriced. People price in future earnings, and when it turns out that we have difficult times ahead, those assumptions must be priced out resulting in sharp drop in value. Dividend stocks on the other hand are judged also based on dividend yield and payout ratio, which help with estimating reasonable valuation, and thus make it harder for such stock to become overpriced.
It's comfy way of investing, but I wouldn't expect 100% every 5 years doing this.

[Anonymous No.52635249]

>>52635015
kek

[Anonymous No.52635272]

>>52635231
You can sell covered calls on anything which can function similarly to a divvy it is just less brain dead and takes some active management/timing

>>52635218
Post ytd

[Anonymous No.52635275]

>>52631927
How to the fuck is this even legal. You buy car with x feature already there. You've paid for it already. What's there to "unlock"?. What's there to "update", aside from maybe the navigation maps and the software in the computer. A car is not the same thing as a software application where you try it and if you like it, then you pay for the whole thing.

[Warlie Bunger !!+spP+Mrujsp No.52635283]

>>52634921
A lot of people failed to mention this:
You have to pay taxes which prevents compounding. If the company's return on assets is 20%, and it can reinvest new cash at 20%, you get n*1.2^x where n is the amount of capital invested and x is the amount of years compounded. When you pay (let's say 20%) taxes, your after-tax compounded return is 20*0.8=16%. Therefore dividends are bad, unless you're a net seller of equity and dividends are taxed equally or less than the sale of the equity.

[Anonymous No.52635287]

>>52635272
> it is just less brain dead and takes some active management/timing
You can do the same on your dividend stocks if you are able to pull it off with little errors. I'm not good at timing anything though, DCA works the best for me so far.

[Anonymous No.52635291]

>>52635150
The first lesson of making it in this crab market is: don't be optimistic, and don't be pessimistic either. If things just went up for a while and current price minus sma200 is relatively high, don't buy, maybe short, if it's low, don't short, maybe buy. It's hard to swing such a market, but if you wait long enough you get to points where things are back to being fairly high (like when SPX > 4000) or fairly low (like when SPX < 3600) which can be good opportunities to take advantage of the crabbing.

[Anonymous No.52635295]

>>52634648
We're in a bear market so for the time being it's good to buy itm long dated puts on SPY. Add some basic TA,FA and eventually you'll be profitable

[Anonymous No.52635300]

>>52635275
Legal because esg friendly.

[Overseer of Clowns No.52635350]

>>52635272
Jesus fucking christ anon. Do you ever stop fucking typing?

[Anonymous No.52635357]

>>52635275
Intel disables features, then release CPUs with them enabled, the price jacked up and a K at the end of the name all the time. This is no different.
Anyway I'm never buying an electric car because the feds can just decide to ram me into a tree one day after I call someone a nigger.

[Anonymous No.52635358]

>>52635283
Yeah but it depends on your income. By the time taxes on divvy stocks really start to put the "hurt" on you you're close to retirement anyway and soon will be in lowered bracket so the hurt won't be as bad.

[Anonymous No.52635365]

Huh, so Chevron made some deal with Venezuela and oil bears are dancing and saying oil is going to $60, but I own Chevron stock, is this actually based for me?

[Anonymous No.52635423]

>>52635283
No fucking clue what you just posted. Yes you pay taxes on your dividends depending on your earned income tax bracket. What is not taken out of dividends are all the extra crap that it taken from your pay check.

[Anonymous No.52635424]

>>52635006
oh, i already trade successfully and mostly just use moving averages and momentum. but i'd like to actually talk about this shit more seriously with people, but i have no one to really talk to without feeling like im giving out way more than im getting in return. me just explaining my whole strat to a bunch of freeloading anons who just take and don't give back feels like shit.

[Anonymous No.52635443]

>>52635028
most anons don't have the capital to generate more than pocket change from dividends

[Anonymous No.52635449]

>>52635424
You just explained why so few people talk about things seriously in your own post whining about why nobody talks about things seriously.

[Anonymous No.52635467]

>>52635449
i feel like it's a cultural problem though. it would be different if everyone was regularly sharing and talking about this sort of stuff, and that was just the norm. the culture here is just shidding and farting it seems. reacting to line going up or down in the moment without any understanding of why.

[Anonymous No.52635482]

>>52635424
Welcome to /smg/ fren. I come here as well to discuss things that I can’t talk to IRL normie friends. Just be aware that people won’t always want to discuss what you want to talk about. If you need validation, likes, and upvotes, best go somewhere else. We’re all quite mad here.

[Anonymous No.52635487]

>>52635424
There are people like me who read and learn, and don't reply much because lurking is better for someone without anything to say besides "thanks, I'll try this out and see if it helps". Anways, thanks for any posts of yours I may have read. I wish I were better at reading MAs (looking at 200 and 50 mostly) but I think I'll get there. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.52635507]

>>52635443
That’s why I always say it’s a longer game. When I started my divvy plan years ago it was pocket change as well. Now I am up to $16,000 a year.

[Anonymous No.52635520]

>>52635467
>i feel like it's a cultural problem though. it would be different if everyone was regularly sharing and talking about this sort of stuff, and that was just the norm
So are you going to be the one to start or just keep bitching until someone else fixes it for you?

[Warlie Bunger !!+spP+Mrujsp No.52635523]

>>52635358
This is a logical fallacy. You are compounding at 4% less. Calculate your CAGR and subtract 400 basis points. Now look at your new results over time. It's a lot of money.

>>52635423
While that may be true for the US, dividends are taxed differently worldwide. My point is that non-dividend paying companies tend to reinvest capital at an attractive rate or buy back stock to leverage the current business at a fair price. By doing this, shareholders defer the taxes they owe on profits which means they can compound these untaxed profits at a higher rate.

[Anonymous No.52635525]

>>52635507
16k a year is still pocket change
you really need a 500k-1mil stack to create significant value

[Anonymous No.52635532]

>>52635350
I'm going to the gym in a little bit and I'll stop typing while I'm there. When I'm watching handegg later today I'll probably go back to 40 post by this id autism though.

>>52635365
I was thinking about this.. longterm it should be a boon for chevron to outperform competitors but short term all of oil is going down. The valuation of oil companies is all based on Jewish lies of some type of oil squeeze and reserves depletion that was going to push oil to hundreds of dollars a barrel which was just Jewish lies and scams like usual. Oil continues to become cheaper. Venezuela pumping will drop the price, Russia shit will end eventually and Saudis will have to compete with Venezuela cheapies. Oil is down from 93 a barrel to 76 and falling and oil stocks are still crabbing all time highs. If I owned oil stocks I would be taking profits

[Anonymous No.52635564]

>>52635467
I would love to get more people to do what I do outside here. People would be more fun to be around if they weren’t always complaining about money. That’s not they way the world is. It seems the more successful I am the more people resent me. It’s what I like about this place. Kind of keeps me somewhat humble.

[Anonymous No.52635571]

>>52635523
you get taxed on dividends and bond interest way less than normal capital gains tax
the downside is the tiny yield but the economic environment is changing to make bonds attractive again since the fed can't do the ZIRP autism anymore
so in the nearish future bonds, especially corporate bonds, will give decent real yields

[Anonymous No.52635587]

>>52635525
how much div can you get from 1m a year?

[Anonymous No.52635598]

There’s currently 97 posters in here, I should probably be combative and withholding of my trading ideas and strategies- I don’t want to let 96 others know of my secrets and ruin the entire stock market opening on Monday.
t. 50-50 mutual index holder

[Anonymous No.52635599]

>>52635587
most divis including reits hit around 3-4% so $30,000-$40,000

[Anonymous No.52635618]

>>52635587
higher risk yields can be around 10% right now so 1 mil would net 100k, like going all in JEPI
but your gains will be retarded by losses on the shares during the bear market
same issue with dividend stocks in general, they either crab or are gonna get rekt in the recession, depending on the stock you could easily make a net loss
risk free yields are around 5% like 6month treasuries and AA corporate bonds.

So 100k except not really because your principal is likely to decline, or around 50k except inflation is technically eating almost all of that gain

It'll get better in a year or two and it was way worse last year, but yeah.

[Anonymous No.52635623]

>>52635532
I remember one anon who was sure that it's the end of the Oil when it dropped from $85 to $65 last year. Damn was he wrong. You're missing lots of things about it, i.e. the fact that Opec countries are now cooperating with BRICS (Belt and Road Initiative goes through all of Opec countries and Saudis are already cooperating with BRICS).
It's not just matter of speculation, but continuation of price wars.
Also, I wouldn't expect new exploration projects looking for Oil. Western policies want to get rid of Oil in 10 years. That's about the time for Oil drill site to repay for itself and start making profits. Oil will be becoming more scarce, not abundant in my opinion.
I wouldn't make a mistake of judging the oil demand just based on travel too. Majority of it goes towards transport (around 65% from what I recall) while the rest goes into manufacturing.

In the end, I don't know how the price will behave, all commodities are very volatile and slightest retarded news can move them in any direction. I just think you're oversimplifying the subject by blaming it on Jews.

[Anonymous No.52635626]

What a hideous and oversized pair of pants. What does 4chan mean by this?

[Anonymous No.52635627]

>>52635525
It’s an extra $1333 I can invest each month. It’s a monthly raise of pay I didn’t have to kiss ass or suck dick for. Also I am nearing the 500k goal. Two years and I should be there.

[Anonymous No.52635642]

Here is my super advanced "bro zoom out" TA on oil prices. We are at a new 6 month low and trending down. Oil princesses are still trying to pump the ATH of their oil stocks. The last time oil was this price DRIP was over $25 share. Oil capitulation is soon and my DRIP will print for me again

[Anonymous No.52635646]

>>52635618
Don't forget a lot of Div stocks and ETFs can be value traps. International reits return an absurdly high amount of yield, sometimes over 10%

But over the long term it's completely crabbed even with reinvesting div payouts

[Anonymous No.52635648]

>>52635618
Is there an ETF I can buy for treasuries and bonds or do I have to actually buy the bonds. Isn’t there like a $3000 limit or something? So for my wife and I, I could do 6k? What is even the point? I only trade stocks. Help me.

[Anonymous No.52635649]

>>52635627
I suppose that's true. My stack isn't that large and much riskier plays have worked better for me. If I had a several hundred k stack I would be holding mostly 6month treasuries right now.

[Anonymous No.52635668]

>>52635648
Anything related to bonds make sure you read what the boglehead boomers have to say. But I'll help the best I can.

How old are you and your wife? I'm assuming you're investing for your future.

[Anonymous No.52635678]

>>52635648
>Isn’t there like a $3000 limit or something?
its 30k for the iseries bonds which were like 9% but have gone down to 6+% so honestly they are hardly worth discussing considering you can't redeem it for 12 months, and if you redeem before 30 years you lose 3 months of the interest
so if you buy a 6% ibond right now you are missing out on comparable or slightly higher yields with fewer asterisks. I expect treasuries to be outperforming those i bonds by next year as inflation declines and yields continue to rise

[Anonymous No.52635687]

>>52635668
38 and 36. We have retirement accounts through work. I keep around 100k in cash at all times. I have about 20k to play with and I don’t know what to do with it.

[Anonymous No.52635699]

>>52635648
JEPI is an ETF with pretty good yields
it holds SPY and sells covered calls, which is a really great strategy in bear markets like this where it's just slow bleeding forever.
JEPI's share price will go down but the yield has more than made up for it this year and I expect that to continue. Although considering inflation real returns are probably still net negative after you consider the share price decline. Like I said the yield situation is pretty bad right now but it is improving.

[Anonymous No.52635705]

>>52635487
reading MA's isn't hard. faster above the slower? uptrend. faster below the slower? downtrend. price below the faster in an uptrend or above the faster in a downtrend? pullback that you should probably be looking for a reversal of, back to the trend. after that it's just risk management.

>>52635520
i've posted here about this stuff many times in the past already, anon. that's the point.

[Anonymous No.52635709]

>>52635648
TLT for treasuries
VCLT for corporate

Longterm both super safe plays. Short/mid term I think we have another leg down and there will be a better entry

[Anonymous No.52635714]

Guess I'm spoiled. Due to my govt job. I'm under an inviolable contract. Means my benefits are set in stone and cannot be fucked with and will be kept coming till the day I die. So you know out the door at age 54 w/all things at the max living the laid back life till I hit oh I dunno mid 90's. With a separate fat 401k, brokerage, and cash in the bank all just "there" for grins.

[Overseer of Clowns No.52635718]

>>52635532
kek.
some of plays I've seen are so garbage that my interest has actually grown over the years.
Same thing with jumpster hoops.

[Warlie Bunger !!+spP+Mrujsp No.52635719]

>>52635571
Again, that may be true in the US, but there are several countries where capital gains are taxed lower than dividends. Belgium being one example from the top off my head. (0%gains & 30%div)
If you are not a net seller (aka retired) then you will compound at a less attractive rate than a non-dividend paying company with an equal return on invested capital.

[Anonymous No.52635737]

>>52635719
if you're retired then the point of holding yield is to stave off inflation

[Anonymous No.52635758]

There are some real stinky bonds out there if you wanted yield.

[Anonymous No.52635768]

>>52635134
imagine insisting on losing money…

[Anonymous No.52635791]

>>52635687
Okay so first of all nice job on having an emergency fund. I'm assuming you are just holding that in your checking account. Make sure your bank is giving you a good return on that. Most of them are like 2% but some banks will screw you over with the APY. Either way, holding this emergency fund is already fucking amazing.

Second thing you need to do is read what the bogleheads say. They have a fantastic forum and community which would love to help you.
>https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

You are new to investing. You could spend a lot of time trying to research what good stocks are. You also could just pay someone money to do it. Or you can just buy everything. I'm serious. Bogleheads follow the philosophy of "don't try and find the needle in the haystack, just buy the whole haystack". You want to invest that $20,000 into passive index fund that includes the entire american and international stock market.

Ideally you should be trying to take advantage of retirement savings, mostly your Roth ira. You and your wife will have a $13,000 yearly limit, but any money put into this is forever tax free. Hence why the government limits it to $6500 per person. And sometimes employers will even match your investments.

That comes out to about $1000 per month if you want to start maxing this every year, which I heavily suggest you do. Most people can't have the discipline to pull it off. Now if you want to start doing that AS WELL as invest this lump sum of $20k, then you just open a brokerage account. Fidelity tends to be the best one, that I use, because they have no fees on literally anything and great customer support.

Now what do you want to buy? Again, you're young so stocks. VTI is a very inexpensive ETF that covers the entire American stock market. And VXUS covers all international investment.
>https://www.schwab.com/research/etfs/quotes/portfolio/vti
>https://www.schwab.com/research/etfs/quotes/portfolio/vxus

[Anonymous No.52635838]

>>52635758
CCC bonds at below inflation yield doesnt sound great

[Anonymous No.52635839]

Can I just buy BRK.B and feel superior to y’all

[Anonymous No.52635848]

>bond posting

[Anonymous No.52635850]

>>52635791
>buy stocks
>right at the beginning of a stagflationary bear market
>when the usa's pop growth is practically 0 and diving
line always goes up though right?

[Anonymous No.52635851]

Guess this is it...

[Anonymous No.52635864]

>>52635850
time in the market beats timing the market
also I just told this man to also invest monthly anon
if he really wants to dump a fat stack then buying everything is the best bet

[Anonymous No.52635865]

>>52635848
>short term bonds anywhere near the top
have you seen the yield curve?

[Anonymous No.52635874]

>>52635838
thats why they are so cheap if you want to baghold until expiry and expect them to maintain pay and not go bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.52635884]

>>52635864
>time in the market beats timing the market

[Anonymous No.52635885]

>>52634035
Same, about to be 32 and staying here for at least another 2 years to finish my masters. Gf for almost 3 years now, totally fine with it, parents love her. Extremely comfy living over here

[Anonymous No.52635891]

>>52635884
>price
>not total return
shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.52635901]

>>52635891
>just go back in time and invest in 1894

[Anonymous No.52635911]

>>52635901
anon even with this bear market bogleheads are still up

[Anonymous No.52635916]

>>52635839
Yes, you can even short an index as a hedge to truly dab on us all because even SPY is being mogged by BRK.B.

[Anonymous No.52635918]

>>52635911
>bogleheads
so boomers that started dca'ing in the 90s
aka the best bull run ever than 20x the stock indices in 20 years because of the dot com boom

[Anonymous No.52635931]

>>52635918
>coping this hard
>ignoring the 2008 crash or the post 2000 crab
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggy diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggy

[Anonymous No.52635943]

>>52635709
doesnt price of these etfs go down as yields rise? why buy etf instead of actual bond where you can lock in the div for the entire time you have it?

[Anonymous No.52635946]

>>52635884
>NEED MORE TIME

[Anonymous No.52635955]

>>52635943
the summary is that they are generally the same
getting into long term bond etfs while they are low will pay off just like buying long term bonds now

[Anonymous No.52635958]

>>52635931
wow bro what a devastating crash
completely wiped dca boomers out
oh wait no it just fucked over young people just like everything else

[Anonymous No.52635969]

>>52635946
yes eventually M2 expansion and inflation will drive the indexes up
or will it?

[Anonymous No.52635975]

>>52635943
>>52635955

Yes. If rates keep rising they will go lower. They pay a monthly divvy and whenever the bottom is in they will moon for the next 5 years so it's just a guessing game of what the max bond yields will be. I don't think us treasuries will ever go over 5-6%

[Anonymous No.52635976]

>>52635931
Why does it annoy you so much I wonder? I know we have tons of option trading geniuses who made lots of money in past few months due to huge volatility, but what's wrong with DCA? You know that bear market is great because it's a great opportunity to accumulate more right? Also you're forgetting about dividends and power of compounding I guess.

[Anonymous No.52635992]

>>52635791
reddit-tier answer

>>52635687
OP with 20k what you should be doing is seeking out aggressive, leveraged plays in order to multiply that stack. Unironically. Do the math, you are already near your 40s, conservative boomer investing won't save you.

[Anonymous No.52635993]

>>52635976
bear/crab markets can last for decade+ timespans
all the dca boomers here think that we'll just crash and v shaped recovery to all time highs within the next 5 years LOL

[Anonymous No.52636001]

>>52635626
They fit just right

[Anonymous No.52636005]

>>52635993
Ok so for 5 years you simply get dividends, reinvest and keep buying cheap shares. What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.52636012]

>>52636005
>simply get dividends
check the yield on index funds retard

[Anonymous No.52636021]

>>52635993
ATH's wont happen for awhile until the fed drops rates back to zero.

[Anonymous No.52636039]

>>52636012
I don't expect to become millionaire by investing. My plan is to retire early with stable income from divvies. Majority of my income comes from my salary, not gambling.
I guess the problem is that you make so little money you feel forced to gamble to ever make it, as you have no chance to accumulate enough money to live off dividends alone.

[Anonymous No.52636043]

>>52636021
yeah exactly welcome to the 70s bitch
high, sticky, recurring inflation, and rates that bounce up and down but never go low enough to propel stocks to ATH
and on top of that we have massive government debt paralyzing fiscal stimulus in the near future and USA pop has peaked
its over for DCA boomers

[Anonymous No.52636052]

>>52635649
Best thing about the market is there is no one set way to make it. Many paths and strategies that can be combined to fit the individuals tastes. I know my way is slow but it works for me.

[Anonymous No.52636055]

>>52636039
sub inflation yields don't help anyone regardless of income level
stock indexes are geared for stock price growth not yields stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.52636071]

>>52636055
Yeah keep barking. It's sad that someone having stable life and income angers you so much, but oh well.

[Anonymous No.52636079]

Baking.

[Anonymous No.52636083]

I baked

>>52636075
>>52636075
>>52636075

[Anonymous No.52636084]

>>52636071
That bubble kind of looks like the Wu Tang logo

[Anonymous No.52636087]

>>52636071
>epically owning me by holding stock indexes that are crashing and give .5% yield
yeah enjoy being down 40% before inflation retard

[Anonymous No.52636101]

>>52635884
looks a lot more interesting when you actually apply even just some basic TA to it, doesn't it?

honestly in general it feels like you can be incredibly profitable on a lot of stocks or indices just by buying at and maybe below the EMA(50) incrementally based on ATR multiples of some sort. 50 day, 50 week, 50 month, whatever.

that said, this is why i day trade. it's literally the same shit except it takes minutes for a trade to complete for me rather than months or years. but good luck to those of you who do this.

[Anonymous No.52636110]

>>52635992
I don’t only have 20k. I have around 250k in retirement accounts, 100k cash, 3 paid off cars, and about 600k in home equity.
The 20k is play money that I want to grow by trying to take advantage of the current situation. About 12k of it is house money I made from trading 8k of my own money. Admittedly 8k of it was from catching dogcoins, the other 4k from swinging shit like SBE (now Chargepoint), PLTR, SIGA, and other stuff that took off in the short term.
I asked about bonds and treasuries because I’d be happy with a guaranteed 5% on that 20k in the next year vs. god knows what the market will do.
I’ve considered inverse leveraged ETFs but I’ve seen many people get wiped out on those.

[Anonymous No.52636136]

>>52636110
buy 6month bonds
if the fed pivooots they will moon
if the fed keeps raping just hold to maturity

[Warlie Bunger !!+spP+Mrujsp No.52636583]

>>52635737
The point of financial retirement is to not depend on someone else for your livelihood. With your logic, everyone with over a few million dollars would be buying bonds. This is not the case. Inflation is trailing, yield is forward looking. If you are confident that you can make more money in equity markets than in bond markets then there is no point in buying bonds.

[Anonymous No.52637119]

>>52633542
>not having a second amendment means literally anything
Whites in america have let themselves become a minority without a shot being fire, you will unironically, and I mean this in the most sincerest way, do shit with your gun except end your life with it when your son comes out as trans.