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[Anonymous No.51679146]

is pic related a good investment for a major

[Anonymous No.51679888]

>>51679146
My unemployment says no.

Last employer lost all their contracts.

[Anonymous No.51679909]

>>51679146
yes

[Anonymous No.51680106]

>>51679146
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.51680324]

>>51680106
why
>>51679888
elaborate

[Anonymous No.51680575]

>>51679146
no unless your dad works at raytheon and that's your career plans

[Anonymous No.51680662]

>>51679146
not an engineer but i would choose a traditional discipline (ME, EE, CE, ChemE, etc.) rather than this amalgamation. you don't want to be filtered by brainless HR roasties.

[Anonymous No.51680760]

>>51680662
I don't know

[Anonymous No.51680790]

>>51679146
No one cares about your engineering classes incel

[Anonymous No.51680808]

>>51679146
Soulless vocational training, not a real education.

[Anonymous No.51680832]

This isn't even real engineering. This is like touring what all the other engineers do. Utterly useless, I could do the same in one day's google search. Learn something valuable you retard.

[Anonymous No.51680879]

>>51679146
>engineering technology
lol
get a real degeee
t. real civil engr. making 80 k$/a after 5 years of working in state govt., while """engineering technicians""" make only 3/4 as much

[Anonymous No.51680880]

>>51680760
realistically what kind of job do you think you could do with this degree? you won't have the training to be a design engineer. you won't have the hands-on skills to be an industrial electrician / PLC tech. it's like some sort of weird industrial engineering or engineering management degree.

[Anonymous No.51680926]

>>51680808
>Why yes, I have a Bachelor’s of Arts in Political science. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.51680977]

>>51680880
plant manager
or manufacturing engineer

[Anonymous No.51681032]

>>51680926
Social science is pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.51681064]

>>51680977
>plant manager
i worked in manufacturing as a wagie. you're not going straight to plant or process management without a technical background or a lot of experience.
>manufacturing engineer
i don't see any coursework on static systems, dynamic systems, mechanical design, etc., but you know your school and immediate job market better than me. is this a common outcome for this degree program -- do you know where graduates of this program typically get jobs, and what type of jobs they get?

[Anonymous No.51681070]

>>51681032
>Get it right I actually studied Philosophy!

[Anonymous No.51681089]

>>51681064
they created the program with the input of automakers and other large manufacturers

[Anonymous No.51681100]

>>51681064
This is the real question. What is their placement rate, average starting salary for graduates, average after five years, and where they end up in five years. If the program cannot answer these questions with verification, it’s a bunch of bs

[Anonymous No.51681159]

>>51681089
that sounds promising. do some research and see if these employers do on campus recruiting for internships and full time work. i'd still recommend pursuing a traditional engineering discipline, but if employers are routinely seeking out interns and employees from your program, it might be worth it.

i'm assuming it's easier for cheaper/faster/easier for you to complete this program, rather than a traditional eng degree? if you face any career roadblocks i assume you could always go back for a masters.

[Anonymous No.51681162]

>>51680662
This. Don't fuck around. Get something you can get licensed in. Don't be a fucking dipshit majoring in a meme engineering degree. Mechanical will open as many doors. If I had to do it over again I would do electrical however

[Anonymous No.51681243]

>>51680879
I did ET. I started at 32k. After 2 years and some plc experience I job hopped and got 65k base. Around 90k after benifits/bonuses and overtime (a lot of overtime).

I have a 95k base job offer waiting for me when I decide to go back to work. That being said, it was super hard to break into the industry, but once you have 2-3 years experience the degree is irrelevant. Industrial engineering has been good to me.

I do controls engineering/commissioning and I love it. But I do think I've gotten lucky in meeting the right people.

[Anonymous No.51681274]

>>51680977
>manufacturing engineer
Shitty career and low paying for how high stress it can be. Oftentimes located in small rural towns. And if you want to do it then you're probably better off with an Electrical, Mechanical, or Chemical Engineering degree and learning automation & control systems and SCADA. You can always get a less Masters degree afterwards. Like MS engineering or MBA depending on your career path.

If you're high IQ and only want a good salary then manufacturing engineering is not the way. Only highly specialized fields like oil/gas or silicon pay very well. If I could go back I would have studied Electrical Engineering rather than Mechanical because it just seems more relevant in 202x. Just my 2 cents partner

>tfw automation engineer

[Anonymous No.51681275]

>>51681159
its free but traditional engineering would cost me like 80k for tuition/room and board

[Anonymous No.51681294]

>>51681243
Forgot to say I worked 1 year at the 65k base job. So 3 years total experience.
Decided to take a year off and travel since I know I have 2 decent job offers waiting for me and covid made me stir crazy only staying home.

[Anonymous No.51681334]

>>51681070
Physics & Mathematics double major. Philosophy is also a noble subject, though.

[Anonymous No.51681367]

>>51681275
you could always do the community college meme for 2 years and then transfer. just BE SURE that the credits transfer -- get it in writing from your targeted transfer school.

[Anonymous No.51681399]

>>51681334
>Physics & Math double major.
No one cares. You will always be miserable. Have fun thinking you’re a superior specimen or something incel

[Anonymous No.51681417]

>>51679146
>Engineering Technology
This degree is essentially Engineering Lite for those who can't do calculus. You would be better suited by enrolling in a business major. Finance or Management is good. If you like tech, major in something like MIS or IT.

[Anonymous No.51681466]

>>51681367
still would be like 40k for two years of university
so like 50k total

[Anonymous No.51681542]

>>51681399
>projecting this hard
yikes

[Anonymous No.51681600]

>>51681542
see
>>51680808

[Anonymous No.51681729]

>>51679146
This was the major that everyone that dropped out of engineering programs went into. Basically either went into "automatation" doing PLC shit or "automotive" setting up machines on the line.
My friend I still keep in touch with did it now he works for some company setting machines in plants i.e.
>sets up a donut making machine
>sets up a croissant making machine
>company puts him up so he can stay on site for 12 hours and oncall in case they need something
>calls OEMs when things go tits up and gets no support on how to resolve issues
Think he makes 70k-80k, if that sounds like a good career then do it I guess.

Personally do a 2 year programming diploma at your local community college + AWS/GCP certifications to get a remote cloud job that makes 6 figs.

[Anonymous No.51681847]

>>51681032
>>51681334
please go back to /sci/ we like to make money here. Dont you have some topology midterm to study for?

[Anonymous No.51681892]

>>51681600

[Anonymous No.51681901]

>>51681729
Your friends experience sounds pretty typical from my experience in the industry. Not ideal but plenty of jobs like that.

If you get lucky you can get more into the design and programming parts of it. But most jobs are just dealing with shit on site and setting up machines.

[Anonymous No.51681923]

>>51681847
I graduated a long time ago, zoomer.

>we like to make money here
Could have fooled me.

[Anonymous No.51682124]

>>51681923
Then why are you still /sci/posting about your undergrad math degree? What did you even do with it?

[Anonymous No.51682310]

>>51682124
You are, not me. Time for your meds.

[Anonymous No.51682511]

>>51682310
>>51681892
>MEDS MEDS!
What did you do with your degree?

[Anonymous No.51682866]

>>51679146
Get a degree in a real established field instead of gimmick programs like muh AI, muh robotics etc, you won't get a job in any of these fields with a 3-4 year college degree. The thing is that, all of these sectors - Machine Learning, Robotics, Information security, High performance Computing are research related, only highly experienced professionals and researchers work on them. So you need to to do either of these things.
1. Become a Engineer in a company where a lot of R&D happens, try to get placed in a department which collaborates extensively with company's R&D department, try to get noticed and ultimately recommended by Engineers and Researchers in R&D, gain experience (4-5 years).
2. Complete MSc and PhD at some top 10-20 Engineering Research University, work on projects and complete your thesis under some Researcher who works on Industrial projects, get published in some Industrially recognised publication or journal, get PostDoc in some Tech Company where a lot of R&D happens or at University research group which works on industrial projects.
Any of the above will land you top level R&D roles.

[Anonymous No.51682934]

>>51679146
If your degree ends in "studies" or "technology" it's garbage and will be thrown in the trash.

[Anonymous No.51683063]

>>51682934
This kek

[Anonymous No.51683122]

>>51682511
He's fucking unemployed or under employed teaching Calculus 1 and 2 at a community college or just straight up lying. Most people who still latch on to their degrees like that are sad sacks of shit and poor, they're literally no different to jocks who peaked in high school and still talk about their sportsball championship that they won with the boys decades later. /sci/ is an excellent snapshot of people who were gassed up into believing they were too smart for everyone else and then become sad underachieving/underperforming sad sacks of shit in the real world. Get a practical degree or learn practical skills but most importantly of all learn how to get along with/communicate/network with others. The world isn't a meritocracy. It ends up being about who you know and not what you know when it's all said and done. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.51683212]

>>51679146
By the way, this degree seems practical and likes it's tailored for someone who wants to become a manager at an engineering or manufacturing firm. Someone who will literally be paid handsomely to do nothing at all and look over engineers or some such. Sounds good but it better be something you actually want to be doing for a long time and not just because you fell for the "I have to get a STEM degree or I'll be poor as fuck and end up working at a Starbucks". I

[Anonymous No.51683701]

>>51680760
>>51679146
>lean six sigma
>capstone green belt
KEK how much are they being paid to promote this garbage

[Anonymous No.51684323]

>>51679146
Looks like engineering shit. NGMI
Go invest in startup on MilestoneBased or go fucking fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.51684883]

>>51679146
Just trans and learn from YouLube anon.