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>We believe a 150 bps raise is appropriate at this time

>> No.51513491
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they cant even shrink their balance sheet on schedule
they have no balls to hike above 0.75

>> No.51513515

>>51513218
mute point
the dollar is hyperinflating anyways

>> No.51513541
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It's working. Gas is about to be back under $3/gallon and look at this -- lumber almost back to pre pandemic prices. Be a little more ahead of the curve, shit is actively deflating as the markets are. They don't do this for fun, it's functional.

>> No.51513612

>>51513541
I wonder what would happen if the FED continues demand destruction and supply issues get suddenly alleviated

>> No.51513669

>inflation is "flat," remaining at 8% so at this point we can become accommodating again.

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>>51513669
I mean I'm going to be really surprised if the fed keeps hiking rates past November. We are already pretty fucking high relative to where we have been since 2008. Wall street can recover from a higher fed rate with time but you know who can't? A blue government hell bent on gibs

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>>51513218
imagine the cheapies to slurp

>> No.51513819

>>51513218
Put it up to 8% MINIMUM you fucking cowards

>> No.51513905

>>51513612
bullwhip effect is playing out nicely, so we're on pace for a deflationary period

Anecdotally, I was going through the local shopping center yesterday and literally everything was marked down on sale. They're dumping inventory like crazy. I bought 10lbs of ribeyes at pre-pandemic prices.

>> No.51513939

>>51513491
>Line went up once
>ignores all the other times line went up on the way down
Please stay away from all markets

>> No.51513993

>>51513905
>pre-Pandemic prices
how long until we go back to pre-1971 prices when the quality of life was way fucking higher?
Never?
Oh ok, i guess we're still on track to get fucked.

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>>51513218
JK it's 300 bps

>> No.51514022

>>51513541

Exactly. It’ll take a few months for these changes in energy and commodities to reflect in goods. But they will. The job is more or less done. Oil only needs to fall another 20% or so for it to be in historically neutral prices

>> No.51514221

>>51513905
Yeah, I've noticed food prices easing up in my area too. My only real concern at this point for commodity prices is Europe for now.

>> No.51514272

>>51514022

It's basically the reverse of the inflation trend. While inflation was happening people didn't notice. Commodities and materials were surging in price and it didn't reflect on products for a few months.

Of course we aren't going to get right back to where we were but it won't be as ridiculous as the peak.

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>>51513218
Oops, I meant 15bps.

>> No.51514541

>>51513491
Six other times it went up less than it went down total.
Retarded faggot = (You)

>> No.51514563

>>51513218
put the rate at 75% total or you're a faggot

>> No.51514632

>>51513218
jpow would never. you must be new. the brrr memes are real

>> No.51515117

>>51514272

Nobody seems to have noticed the fed cha ged how they weight CPI starting from Jan 2023 either. It will average against the previous year of data instead of the average of the previous two as it has been. This is intentional as they likely predict some deflation themselves in many items. Also helps them to claim victory as prices for many items were very low in 2020 which really skews things.

>> No.51515182

>>51513939
>>51514541
theyre supposed to tighten by 95B per month
we're more than half way into the month
the only way to maintain what little credibility they have left is to shrink it MASSIVELY in the next 10 days

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>>51513218
>raise rates enough to stop inflation
>government goes insolvent
>don't beat inflation
>dollar hyperinflations

Must be real fun skating around the biggest bubble in history. Is there any other options lads?

>> No.51515486

>>51515367
Nothing ever happens

>> No.51515524

>>51515486
See, that's why this one is going to be fucking hilarious.
So many people have no clue what they're doing lol. They don't even understand that nobody gives a fuck if they live or die. You're on your own.

>> No.51515530

>>51513218
2%

>> No.51515616

>>51513491
zerohedge is saying this is a lagging effect from the combination of settling times and increased mortgage rates on mbs
they will post a long article about it soon, might be interesting

>>51513905
same shit is happening is europe as producer cant afford the bill to store food products it is being dumped on the market
only means we will see a major and long lasting uptick in the coming months

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>>51515486
Inflationary depressions do happen though, as do recessions*. Are you suggesting that they're going to kick the can down the road for another decade? I suppose that's a remote possibility but you must note that the can could be too big. real soon.

Recession being the unwinding of a bubble; using the Austrian definition, not MMT one here

>> No.51515717

>>51513218
not important, they can't go to 4%
it's always the same faggot bluff
>WE'LL DO IT, WE'RE GONNA HIKE ABOVE 4
>do it
>WE WILL, 2 MORE WEEKS, I WILL DO IT
>*lowers rates*

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>>51513218
>We believe a 1500 bps raise is appropriate at this time

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>>51515766
Can you imagine lol.
they would stop him, like people would physically interact with him and stop him kek and the market would explode

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>>51515822
>>51515766
double dubs. its gonna happen.

>> No.51515866

I believe he will somehow be removed and replaced by a money-printing demonrat fed chair before his mission is complete.

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>>51515866
>money-printing demonrat fed chair
You realize you just described Jerome Powell right?