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Why are Native Americans so poor? The reservations get around 18 billion from the Federal government and their casinos bring in around 36 billion in profit.

>> No.51343143

>>51343121
Their leaders hoard the money for themselves. Same as Africa.

>> No.51343157

>>51343121
jews keep them down to keep their own victim status at extreme levels

>> No.51343173

>>51343121
they’re niggers.

>> No.51343193

>>51343121
You do research into the average cognitive level on a native, and tell me what you find.

>> No.51343213

>>51343121
Living off gubmint cheese destroys your incentive to do anything to better yourself. This is well-known.

>> No.51343232

>>51343121
Because we took fucking everything from them and then continued to exclude them from society for centuries. C'mon anon, this is literally taught in grade school. I'll paint it for you in /biz/speak

>Just landed on a new continent and there's people here already. How can I profit off this?

>> No.51343235

>>51343143
This

>> No.51343245

>>51343121
Part of it is because the tribes don't actually own the land, the federal government holds it in trust for them.
The other part of it is they're a bunch of lazy drunks.

>> No.51343251

>>51343121
Native Americans are like an endangered rhino. You're basically kept alive because the dominant group feels bad for you.

>> No.51343288

>>51343232
Oh boo hoo. Every other conquered people in history was genocided, Indians were given reservations where they're mostly allowed to govern themselves and an annual payout from the government.

>> No.51343302

>>51343121
the ultimate redpill is they are the joos

>> No.51343336

>>51343288
Seven centuries of torment reduced to a "boo hoo". When you get your drivers license and graduate highschool, I invite you to see more of the world.

>> No.51343398

>>51343336
Oh no! Poor indians! They've been given handouts for seven centuries after they were conquered instead of obliterated off the face of the earth like they did to each other and every race has done to the people they conquered for millennia! Oh no, how awful!
I invite you to stop being such a whiny little bitch.

>> No.51343407

>>51343121
Being on welfare destroys their drive to become successful and the casino money gets mostly eaten up by corruption.

>> No.51343419

>>51343336
Boo hoo!

>> No.51343420

>>51343121
Considering that race is a social construct, the only acceptable explanation is that they are still being systemically oppressed by white people.

>> No.51343461

>>51343420
people of all races are oppressed and exploited under capitalism comrade

>> No.51343565

>>51343121
They've been living a socialist utopia for a century and it drove them into complete annihilation.

>> No.51343592

>>51343121
In Canada they get free money and pay no taxes and do no work and just spend everything on alcohol and go on stabbing sprees

>> No.51343647

>>51343121
What tribe are these beautiful men? I wonder if there is porn of their women that I can fap to.

>> No.51343649

>>51343121
because they trade all their money for firewater and shiny beads

>> No.51343751

>>51343398
Your mom give me handouts

>> No.51343759
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>>51343336
>Seven centuries of torment reduced to a "boo hoo"
Welcome to the actual world anon, where no one gives a shit about your sob story because everyone's got one. From Ireland to India to Inca, there's one thousand stories about an ethnic group being oppressed going back to the dawn of fucking time. What i've noticed is that the ethnicities who bitch and moan about constantly are the ones who turned on their own brothers in petty, tribal disputes.
>>51343288
Is right (plus got dubs), natives could have easily been wiped off the earth but they are actually some of the luckiest motherfuckers in history.
>the native cries out in pain while he takes your tax money

>> No.51343830

Mismanagement by leaders. Also lagging behind in areas of established governance. The Comanche were basically an An-Cap society, and were truly free. I understand that some people here can easily reduce the conquering of natives to "rekt LMAO," but they have no idea how difficult it actually was. The Comanche were unfazed by the Spanish. It wasn't until their main food and trade supply (Buffalo) was eroded that their way of life began to be all about war and raiding. The Buffalo hunters were directly responsible for this.

>> No.51343858

There's an injun femboy at work with a nice ass. I've never been attracted to a dude so much before.

>> No.51343898

>>51343592
Reminds me of the natives in Australia, except they're too drunk and retarded to even pull off a good spree most of the time.

>>51343858
What are you waiting for fag? Colonise your new boywife.

>> No.51343902

Their family structure is messed up. Often times, the women will give everything in terms of aid to the sons. Even when firewater is ruinong their life. Its depressive on the outside witneszing it.

>> No.51343919

>>51343121
nigger mentality

>> No.51343979

>>51343398
ngmi

>> No.51343993

>>51343858
>Injun
Wtf are you my dead grandpa

>> No.51344036

>>51343121
This native guy I know is constantly asking me for money. I only loan him $20 at a time. He never pays me back in cash. Always bartering. The only time he has ever paid me back was when he gets his annual Indian check. This guy is so poor that every day he needs gas money to even drive his car. He has no reason to be poor. What is happening here?

>> No.51344118

>>51344036
Meth you fucking child do you live under a rock

>> No.51344174

>>51343993
Yes. Now get my shin jelly and get to rubbin', boy.
>>51343898
I'm already in a relationship with a real woman and do not want to cheat. Femboy asses are nice but tits are better. And femboys don't age very well.

>> No.51344281

>>51344036
Does he have a job?

>> No.51344780

>>51344118
*Booze

>> No.51344835

>>51344281
No job. He hangs out at Goodwill looking for junk. Now he wants me to fix his car. He wants to work out a “deal” He doesn’t even own wrenches. I can’t even figure out how someone is so helpless.

>> No.51345250

>>51343232
>Because white ppl
Ironically correct. But for the wrong reasons. We should have just given individuals the right to sell their land without permission from chief.
We also shouldn't haven't made them dependant on state funding like blacks are on welfare. Good intentions create the worst outcomes.

>> No.51345298

I don't get it.
So who exactly is like ... preventing them from moving to a major population center and starting to work there?
What exactly is the obstacle here?

People act like someone is preventing them from leaving the reservation and they have to live there like in a zoo or something.

They can pick up and leave any time they want.

>> No.51345383

>>51343232
>we
Fuck off kike

>> No.51345388

>>51345298
>What exactly is the obstacle here?
They would have to compete with hispanics and actual Indians if they left.

>> No.51345412

>>51345298
>What exactly is the obstacle here?
It's actually really complicated and differs from state to state and reservation to reservation. It is also complicated in the sense that all government gibs is complicated. It's also complicated in the fact that your purity can dictate how much gibs you get. Typically you have to have a permanent residence on a reservation to receive your Indian gibs. You also have to go through an insane amount of paperwork and legal work to get in on the Indian casino gibs where the real money is. If you move off the reservation you are still a part of the tribe, but you don't reap the rewards from it since you are no longer "paying into" it. The white man doesn't hold a monopoly on the oppression. What we normally see around here is the kids get their lump sum payout once they turn 18, waste all that fucking money on booze and meth since there is nothing else to do and they are literally children still, then get trapped in a vicious cycle of being too poor to move away and stuck in place because the money is just good enough to live.

>> No.51345696
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51345696

I'm an injun, I was in upper management for a small tribe for about 5 years, not the big boss, but one of the bigger ones.
Our biggest problem is corruption. If the leaders are corrupt the tribe is fucked. That's why there are some tribes with jew-tier wealth and tribes that can't even manage to get fresh water in the wettest country on the planet when some redneck in arizona can get it just fine. My tribe was fucked over early on by corruption, and it took a lot of care to cut it out, our paperwork was a huge pain in the ass to ensure a tribal councilor or head accountant couldn't embezzle. Even then most of our elected officials got suspiciously wealthy for only getting a $50,000/year stipend.
Another problem, our boomers (and gen xers) spent their childhood getting abused and raped in residential school. Childhood trauma drove them to drinking and pissing away all their money on the firewater. I would say 5% at most have the wealth that a boomer should have accumulated if they weren't retarded, a race without generational wealth will always fare poorly.
The worst problem and the most blackpilling, our population is very dysgenic. The people that have the most kids are drunks and junkie losers that get their kids taken away at birth. The other problem population is the sheer amount of incest. Normal non-related injuns have a kid or two at most, inbred drunk junkies usually have a dozen if they can survive that long. I have personally heard a mother that angrily said if they took her 3rd kid away she'd just make another, many such cases. We are swirling the drain, unless chinks or whites make crispr viable for normies, we will be nothing more than another pack niggers within 3 generations.
On the brighter side, not paying taxes for gas, booze, and GST is very dank, but unfortunately it only works if you stay on reserve.

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51345811

>>51343143
That's the long and short of it, there's a bit more nuance but I would peg that as problem number one.
>>51343193
Injuns are plenty smart, IF we're sober, we passed the winter filter and taught you whites how to live here when you couldn't hack it. That's a big IF though.
>>51343213
This is a big problem too, look at the Canadian maritmes if you want more proof.
>>51343232
>excluded them from society
Hardly, you incentivized us to stay in our areas, quite clever actually.
>>51343245
If a tribe has its shit together they can usually sue the government for its land back. It's a lot easier if most of the natural resources were already extracted.
>>51343251
Most of us know that, we were extremely lucky it was whites that conquered us, although I can't really think of who else could have.
>>51343302
Not too far off. If we all converted to islam and made booze haram we would give them a run for their money. We had an actual holobunga happen, not a fake one.
>>51343407
I've heard of some casino nigger tribes that get unfathomably, giving monthly gibs in the 1000s to every single member, but without a strong culture and society wealth just makes it easier to OD on the good herione.
>>51343830
Buffalo only disappeared because the prairie nogs hunted them to extinction to sell pemmican to fur traders.
>>51345298
We are encouraged to stay on reserve, anyone who works on a rez is encouraged to stay by not having to pay income tax. Poorfags can't afford white housing prices off reserve while only getting welfare. Only the very rich or the homeless actually bother to go to cities. That's why you don't see too much native americans shitting up the neighborhood, but you'll see tons of niggers shitting it up, niggers don't have financial incentives to stay around niggers.

>> No.51345990

>>51345696
So whats the solution then, prohibition? Would enough natives support it (on your rez at least?) for it to work or would it be like forcing Paddies to go dry?
As far as I understand it while shit for agriculture most rezs have decent mineral prospects(The Navajo are sat on top of NA's biggeest Uranium deposit IIRC?) and other rez could be mini tax havens for the Whiteman if he could prove some ancestry and get a bullshit membership for a fee? Could that work?

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>>51345990
Most of those are just cheap get rich scams, a casino would be easier and less effort, since apparently the mob takes over the casino. You can't buy culture and honor, so none of it would be a permanent fix.
The only solution is the final solution. My last cope is maybe the great reset will cut off all the gibs and only the strong and smart will survive and learn from our mistakes.

>> No.51346095

>>51343121
A lot of them aren't. It depends on what tribe you are in.
I had a roommate in college who belonged to one of the wealthy tribes with a bunch of big casinos, he got a 5 figure check every month.

>> No.51346146

>>51343407
depends on what tribe.
people talk about natives like they are all the same group, it's typical liberal racism.
but yeah if you are in a meme tribe like cherokee then yeah you're fucked.

>> No.51346400

>>51343121
Handouts keep people poor by destroying incentive to be productive. The income-based welfare scheme makes this even worse because the moment you start to work, you get cut off from gibs so you actually become poorer.

>> No.51346492

They aren't poor retard.

They get like $3,000 a month from the US government paid for by white people.

White people are literal slaves working 40+ hours a week to pay for lazy low IQ Indians to sit around all day and smoke weed.

White people are an absolute joke.

>> No.51346561

>>51343232
>believes this entire continent was untouched and unbothered until some religious exiles came over on a few wooden ships

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51346681

>>51343121
How much for long haired prairie nigger waifu?

>> No.51346719

>>51344036
Does he have cool shit to barter or crap? Any cute daughters?

>> No.51346734

They ran around talking shit and generally being subhumans, then they got cursed for messing with the master race

>> No.51346763

>>51345811
That was a huge mistake helping white people. Shouldve let us starve. Look at what we've turned this place into. Its an absolute Fucking nigger concrete nightmare.

>> No.51346779

>>51346763
Agreed, but can't change the past, at least whites returned the favor to some extent.

>> No.51346783

>>51345696
What does it take to be the big boss? You sound as if you could take a tribe and make it profitable for everyone involved.

>> No.51346862

>>51343830
Natives were also sexually uninhibited. Mothers would ferry their daughters to fishing/hunting camps to be passed around by the men. STD's and similar afflictions were common and uncontroversial.

>> No.51346898

>>51343121
victim culture

>> No.51346965

>>51343121
They are a facade for the powers that be. The overlords are below the indian reservations together with their military golems and private mercenaries. But then again their lairs stretch thousands of miles below the cities and national parks, from Europe to Asia to Middle Easy and back to America.

As for the money, that is always siphoned from various schemes like Red Cross, Climate Change, Religion and countless others, but it essentially feeds and cares for all their golems, mercenaries, zogbots, puppets, that operate below and above the ground.

>> No.51347245

>>51343121
My brother do you believe there is any incentive whatsoever for the American or Canadian governments for Natives to have

>wealth
>education
>knowledge of business practices

>> No.51347721

>>51345811
Yeah I know. I'm injun myself. A coastal native.

>> No.51347728

>>51343121
I look white as fuck but my grandmother was half Native American (not sure which one) which makes me 1/8. Which puts me above the threshold to be recognized by some Native American nations. Is it worth it? Will I get government benefits? I think I have to do one of those dna tests but free money from the government sounds nice

>> No.51347898

>>51347728
If you're not sure which one then it doesn't matter. You have to actually know which tribe to recieve benefits. And a lot of tribes aren't too keen on enrolling people they don't know. It's also not guaranteed that the tribe you can claim makes a ton of money. I'm from a relatively poor tribe that offers no per cap and has no casino.

>> No.51347999

>>51347898
I see, thanks native bro. I figured it was more trouble than it’s worth

>> No.51348029

>>51343121
blacks get all the benefits that should be going to the natives, and there isn't much opportunity living in the desert.

>> No.51348126

>>51343751
you have to be 18 to get any handouts, kid.

>> No.51348227

>>51347898
Still worth for tax breaks that makes Jews salivate. Bonus, you might get the one cute indian girl by nature of being white

>> No.51348359

>>51348227
Usually tribes vote on adoptions. He most likely wouldn't make it.

>> No.51348586

>>51348359
Sure, but you can try. Can't win the lottery if you don't play

>> No.51348966

>>51343398
Punching down is bad karma

>> No.51349003

>>51343461
This is the black pill
>why are so many different ethnicities except Indian, Korean and Arabic and Jewish that don’t make up the majority of homeless?

>> No.51351039

There are 5 million native Americans remaining. Just give them each individually whatever we would ordinarily spend on them.