/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.51085273]

Literally who?

[Anonymous No.51085342]

>>51085273
The fact this thread is falling off the board with zero replies tells me we are deep in bear market territory. Getting comfy.

[Anonymous No.51085362]

oh shit

[Anonymous No.51085374]

>>51085273
He is the creator of solidity, and a member of the Ethereum foundation.

[Anonymous No.51085407]

what could it possibly mean

[Anonymous No.51085417]

damn....
now both him and tim beiko
vitalik still holding out

[Anonymous No.51085443]

>>51085273
Let me guess he cost 1 million

[Anonymous No.51085471]

>>51085417
Vitalik is speaking at a conference in SF run by Circle on the same weekend, but then again Stani is speaking at both.

[Anonymous No.51085518]

>>51085443
>>51085417
>>51085407
>>51085374
>>51085362
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[Anonymous No.51085545]

>>51085273
What’s the point anymore?

[Anonymous No.51085549]

>>51085471
kek they have like twenty speakers most of them are vc scammers

[Anonymous No.51085602]

>>51085273
Why does vitalik hate Sergey so much? I honestly think they most likely knew each other when they were younger and something happened. Both played WOW and it wouldn’t be crazy they’d meet and do a couple of quests. Something happened on one of those quests because Vitalik always down plays sergeys work. He can’t let something go for some reason.

[Anonymous No.51085704]

>vitalik not needed

[Anonymous No.51085744]

>>51085273
Solidity is literally useless in the 2022 blockchain development stack and being deprecated soon after the merge. Garbage

[Anonymous No.51085749]

>>51085602
Skelly v. Belly, a rivalry for the ages

[Anonymous No.51085758]

>>51085744
Imagine if the price went up 1 cent for every time some fucking retard desperately scrambled to move goalposts or cope with some bullish news.
We’d all be well retired by now.

[Anonymous No.51085797]

>>51085744
Didnt Chainlink retool for Go a while back?
Whats the significance of this?

[Anonymous No.51085878]

>>51085758
Dude, it's just sad at this point. This is not "bullish" news. Your mind is rotten from too much imagining of the price going up wen reality is the opposite. Who is coping now?
The only other time you've seen excitement over Christian Reitwiessner is form the Truebit Joobit macaroni queers.
Yes, yes, wasn't it so bullish for Truebit that Reitwiener coathered the witpaper with Joo Tuetsch? Wow! Just look at Truebit now. At these prices it's impossible not to accoomulate
Link will moon now too

[Anonymous No.51085906]

>>51085878
>inventor of solidity is attending smartcon
>this is not bullish
It is for me though, it’s bullish as fuck. Maybe not for you, and you are free to cope AND seethe to your heart’s content, but it’s bullish as fuck for me and I am PUMPED.

[Anonymous No.51085932]

>>51085906
If it’s so bullish why isn’t the price going up?

[Anonymous No.51085933]

>>51085797
it was rewritten in go, changing from rust, in 2017 and 2018 with the alpha go testnet release in march or april 2018. i don't exactly know why because i don't code but i imagine go offers some advantages in security/error prevention and modularity over rust given that those are probably the two most important things for something like chainlink

[Anonymous No.51085942]

>>51085797
I’ve been very critical of Chainlink and Sergey the last several days but you are a certified retard. Here’s the quick rundown. Chainlink develops the software for the Chainlink node, many years back their initial implantation of the Chainlink node was in Ruby (believe this is before/around pre-ICO days). After the ICO they switched over and started implementing the Chainlink node in Go. Chainlink nodes aren’t blockchain nodes, it doesn’t make any sense to comment on Solidity in this context because Solidity is the language used to write smart contracts on EVM based blockchains (like… Ethereum). The other guy is a retard. Solidity is still “the” smart contract language.

[Anonymous No.51085952]

>>51085932
Because you touch yourself at night. If all of /biz/ did nofap for a month we would be at $14k LINK by the end of it.

[Anonymous No.51085958]

>>51085273
i thought that pedo DOT guy created Solidity
who's lying?

[Anonymous No.51085987]

>>51085518
Holy shit, I'm not clicking any of that.

[Anonymous No.51085989]

>>51085933
I didn’t think there was any Rust in their codebase, I remember seeing bits around them maybe using it years ago but I thought it’s all Go + TypeScript + Postgres for all the Chainlink node stuff. Rust just doesn’t seem necessary for the stuff they’re working on (discarding all the ways you can meme on Rust anyway). Go is superior over something like Ruby because a statically typed language provides certain guarantees on the correctness of a program that you don’t get with something like Ruby. And besides that Go is kind of a “boring” language because it doesn’t really let you do the “clever” types of things you see in something like C++. It’s a relatively accessible language that still provides sufficient robustness for most people’s requirements.

[Anonymous No.51086053]

>>51085933
>>51085942
>>51085989
so it has more to do with ethereum announcing something with chainlink bullish as fuck vitamin not needed

[Anonymous No.51086076]

>>51085273
fuck they have invented their own programming language for cross chain smart contracts, haven't they?

[Anonymous No.51086156]

>>51086053
Would lower your expectations. It is almost certainly going to be nothing.

[Anonymous No.51086168]

This is a smart contract conference and not a chainlink conference

Why do you think every speaker will be announcing some chainlink integration

[Anonymous No.51086187]

so? You do realize Solidity is no longer valid in blockchain development? This is why LINK is a dead token, they bring the guy who made something that WAS useful once.

[Anonymous No.51086199]

>>51085933
Isn't Rust significantly faster than Go? Go seems like a more accessible and perhaps better supported language though.

[Anonymous No.51086203]

>>51086168
>>51086187
Your seething is like sweet honey on my tongue, it’s DELICIOUS

[Anonymous No.51086204]

>>51086156
>>51086168
>>51086187
give it a rest discord trannies

[Anonymous No.51086220]

>>51085273
I have to genuinely ask .. isnt the list of speakers getting a bit too big? Its what, 2 days? Like there are hundreds of speakers. If everyone speak for only 15minutes thats 12.5 of talks a day for 2 days assuming zero interruptions.

[Anonymous No.51086230]

>>51086168
Linkies don't want to acknowledge this. Some big announcements will likely be made, but just because someone is apoearing at Smartcon it doesn't automatically mean anythijg for Link.

[Anonymous No.51086231]

>>51086220
12.5 *HOURS* of 15 minutes talks a day

[Anonymous No.51086247]

>>51086220
It runs for a whole week, the public can only go to the weekend.

[Anonymous No.51086261]

>>51085471

[Anonymous No.51086272]

>>51086230
>every project has big announcements that dont involve link
>at smartcon
kek smell the desperation

[Anonymous No.51086306]

>>51086261
There’s really just one conference happening that weekend in three separate places.

[Anonymous No.51086314]

>>51086272
I'm not saying that. Any big announcements at Smartcon will obviously be pertaining to Chainlink. But not every company appearing there will have some news for Chainlink, understand?

[Anonymous No.51086324]

>>51086314
no, can you please enter different text into google translate

[Anonymous No.51086334]

>>51086306
>100k transactions per day
holy fucking shitballs, the future is here!

[Anonymous No.51086348]

Isn't this guy in Truebit
lol

[Anonymous No.51086369]

>>51086204
>give it a rest discord trannies

[Anonymous No.51086374]

>>51086348
https://www.apollo.io/people/Christian/Reitwiessner/55711afd7369641bcd580200

[Anonymous No.51086386]

>>51085989
They can just waste huge amounts of time and money rewriting their entire stack in whatever language is hyped at the moment while completely stopping to work on features until that's done. People give them money for nothing, it's a great position to be in for engineers that don't want to solve actual problems but yak shave all day. That also explains the snail like pace of development

[Anonymous No.51086494]

>>51086386
Not a valid criticism. They’ve been working with the same tech stack for years at this point. Their slow development is a result of other problems, not because they’re rewriting things in meme languages. I think Chainlink’s “slow” development speed is a result of a few key issues. First of all I think they announce too many things at once and they fizzle out and don’t really go anywhere. Think DECO, Mixicles, Town Crier (which is now completely irrelevant because of SGX issues I believe) and FSS. We hear a lot about these things that they’ve been researching and on paper it all sounds great. None of it has been implemented, though. So from our perspective we’ve got all these announces features that do sound cool, but it just seems like nothing has happened since the announcement. I can only guess why that is, but I’m guessing for the past couple of years most of their effort has gone into operational work around supporting and growing DeFi. This includes price feeds, supporting other chains and L2s etc. I’m guessing because they saw DeFi as their “growth” opportunity they got tunnel vision and forgot/deprioritized everything else. Now that DeFi in its current incarnation has pretty much plateaued/is declining, they need to go back to actually developing new features. And I guess it looks like staking and maybe CCIP is their main priority. But then comes the next problem: scaling the company. They’ve hired a lot, and I’m guessing it’s a mess internally and I know people will seethe but they’re a 100% remote company, I guarantee there are some lazy fucks working for them. It gets worse when you consider Chainlink is in an extremely niche, highly specialized field where pretty much everyone joining the company is going to be completely clueless, and so the time it’s going to take for them to start being productive will take a really long time.

[Anonymous No.51086533]

>>51086494
And I can’t help but wonder about the influence of Schmidt. If he’s not just a guy they paid to rubber stamp some bullshit statements and he’s actually pushing Chainlink to scale and grow as a company, then he’s probably pushing them hard on releasing new products and services. Go watch or read about Schmidt’s time at Google and what he did then. So if Schmidt is a genuine advisor and told Sergey the company needs to get its shit together and start delivering new products then maybe that explains the v0.1 release of staking. I just can’t get over how stupid v0.1 is as a release and the only thing I can really explain it is Sergey doing the absolute bare minimum to show that he’s delivering a new product/service. I understand the concept of MVPs in software development, but v0.1 seems like they’re really, really stretching the limit on “MINIMUM viable product”.

[Anonymous No.51086542]

>>51086494
>>51086533
>wall of text concern troll who still uses soijaks
the absolute fucking state of discord, I swear

[Anonymous No.51086564]

You fags think way too detailed. Jesus. You seriously take away from this that they want develop in Solidity?

Its more likely that this man is going to he announced to work for Chainlink or something.

[Anonymous No.51086566]

>>51086231
most will overlap with eachother in different sections of the conference, with keynotes having fewer if not 0 overlaps

[Anonymous No.51086574]

>>51086542
I don’t even know what to say to people like you at this point. Your brain has been completely fried. Discord this, tranny that. Or maybe it’s the Bulgarians? Pajeets?

[Anonymous No.51086583]

Has Chainlink announced their annual revenue yet?

[Anonymous No.51086587]

>>51086494
They didn't develop Town Crier, they bought it from Ari Juels way back when. And Ari has been around ever since.

[Anonymous No.51086589]

>>51085797
Go is a high performance back end language, solidity is what you use to write smart contracts

[Anonymous No.51086590]

>>51086574
Aren’t you the faggot that sold everything at $30, anyway?

[Anonymous No.51086596]

>>51086590
Am I? Why does that even matter?

[Anonymous No.51086605]

>>51086587
Yeah you’re right, but hopefully you get my point. Town Crier used to feature pretty consistently in early Chainlink presentations and never went any further than that. Why bother with buying it?

[Anonymous No.51086639]

>>51086605
Lots of times corporations buy things so other groups can't get at them. The world was still years out from uncovering the troubles with SGX, so it made sense to snap that shit up at the time. DECO obviously being a replacement for TC in a post-SGX environment was always going to slow down product launch. I have a different take on Mixicles than most as well, in that I think it's already done but there's no point in launching it without staking being live. Mixing is described as a job type for nodes, but there are no nodes.

[Anonymous No.51086677]

>>51085744
>Solidity is literally useless and being deprecated soon after the merge
Nigga what?

[Anonymous No.51086678]

>>51086639
Fair enough, valid points to consider.

[Anonymous No.51086700]

>>51086678
Thinking about minimum viable products a bit too, the MVP here isn't just staking or privacy or throughput, it's all of those things probably plus a bunch of other features. This data network is supposed to replace almost all of the old financial plumbing, and they seem to have been greenlit by the old financial plumbing itself.

[Anonymous No.51086723]

>>51086700
It’s why the doomlords and naysayers are all retarded. You can’t understand the true scope of what Chainlink is trying to do and expect it to be done quickly. If these faggots followed NASA instead they would have been demanding trips to Alpha Centauri by the 70s and then whining every day that it didn’t happen.

[Anonymous No.51086748]

>>51086723
People have absolutely been whining at NASA since 1969 lmao. Its just how people are: short-sighted, except for some. It's going to be an agonizing hold though, because the people who want this to go off will not hit the button until everything is in place, because they have trillions under management, quadrillions even. And those assets (which they have and which we desire to have) mean they can wait until everything is in place.

[Anonymous No.51086756]

>>51086700
I guess this is the part where I’m not so convinced of that part yet. What signs do we actually have they’re being greenlit by the old financial world? Something beyond the breadcrumbs. I just say that because it’s been years of posting breadcrumbs and pretty much none of them have resulted in anything.

[Anonymous No.51086762]

>>51086756
Signs are just breadcrumbs, anon. What there is is what there is.

[Anonymous No.51086951]

>>51086639
What made SGX bad? I always thought it was sketch either way from the beginning, but why specifically is it considered obsolete now?

[Anonymous No.51086995]

>>51086951
Multiple serious vulnerabilities. Look up SmashEx and I think Meltdown was a name of another.

[Anonymous No.51086999]

>>51086951
Pretty sure there were security vulnerabilities found with SGX which kind of invalidated the entire thesis to use SGX as a TEE.

[Anonymous No.51087034]

>>51085906
Duuuuuuude sick breadcrumbz!!!!

[Anonymous No.51087071]

>>51086583
>ZERO

[Anonymous No.51087092]

>>51086723
HAHAHAHAHAHHSAH so Linkies are comparing their project to NASA now!?!? I guess the amazon comparison (which had zero similarities other than the pricr crashing) is getting a break

[Anonymous No.51087111]

>>51085602
Vitalik was a human warlock. Sergey played a orc shaman named Sergor and camped his corpse in the Arathi Highlands. The only time Vitalik was able to beat Sergor was due to drain life not being groundable by Sergor's totem. Vitalik literally respeced to affliction because of him. When he finally thought he cam up with a strategy blizz nerfed drain life. All of this is biblical, happened once, and will happen once more.

[Anonymous No.51087611]

>>51085273
wtwttt

[Anonymous No.51087682]

>>51087092
NASA make sense more than Amazon. Since both nasa and chainlink don’t make money but loses money

[Anonymous No.51087950]

>>51087682
Chainlink is just like NASA which is Hebrew for "to deceive"

[Anonymous No.51088056]

>>51086533
>>51086494
All valid points.
I just don't believe Schmidt is doing much. Too wealthy, too old to have drive to coach a Fintech company seriously, even if its just as advisor.

I think a huge problem is Chainlinks treasury. Too much money made the company lazy. Not as lazy as other blockchain companies, but seriously needing years to a couple of product extenions is just embarassing, quality control my ass.

[Anonymous No.51088196]

>>51088056
>seriously needing years to a couple of product extenions
Most of it is already tested and finished for quite some time, Sergey is literally just waiting for moneyskelly to go on with the damn Merge already,

[Anonymous No.51088205]

>>51087111
checked and based and wowpilled

[Anonymous No.51088224]

>>51087111
Kino

[Anonymous No.51088274]

>>51088056
Your second paragraph is not that good. How did the become lazy when they've been massively expanding? Both in scope of what they're doing, and the size of the company itself.
And you say it's taken them years to release products/features. They already have multiple operational features (price feeds, VRF, Keepers, etc). Or do you say it's taken "years" for the Chainlink 2.0 features to come out? Chainlink 2.0 was announced in 2021 right? So because they didn't release CCIP, which is a gargantuan task, in <2 years, they're being lazy? lmfao. You've got zoomer-tier patience.

[Anonymous No.51088332]

>>51088274
>How did the become lazy when they've been massively expanding?
They have been massively expanding precisely because of their large treasury. They don't need to be fit and sexy to attract people, they just tap the market for more daddy money.
>And you say it's taken them years to release products/features.
Features. They have one product, the chainlink oracle, which has different features like OCR, keepers or staking. And that's all in-house developments, theres no connectivity required to another third party system which is what usually makes real world production take ages.
>Chainlink 2.0 was announced in 2021 right?
And thats when most of the heavy lifting has already been done. Once the theory is setup I build a prototype in 2 weeks, an MVP in 2 months and fine-tune all the edge cases during the next 4 months (4 months not because it takes so long, but it takes time for users to even create such edge cases).

[Anonymous No.51088435]

>>51088332
>And thats when most of the heavy lifting has already been done. Once the theory is setup I build a prototype in 2 weeks, an MVP in 2 months and fine-tune all the edge cases during the next 4 months (4 months not because it takes so long, but it takes time for users to even create such edge cases).
your products are not the next gen backbone of tradfi are they?
also >>51088196

[Anonymous No.51088446]

>>51088274
Also dont forget their software runs in a fucking console. Its simple logic they need to implement. They dont need to produce hardware like Apple, it doesnt even need a fucking front-end like Facebook or Google. Its a simple CLT.

[Anonymous No.51088544]

>>51088446
based retard

[Anonymous No.51089625]

>>51087111
orc resto shaman's best spell is Chain Heal, it all adds up

[Anonymous No.51092445]

Ivelin Mollov
Software Engineer
HackBG

[e-mail]
52 Pop Bogomil str. Sofia 1202, Bulgaria

The Bulgarians are gonna hack Chainlink. It's ogre

[Anonymous No.51092779]

can I get countdown link for sirgay talk?