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>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST OWN MORE THAN ONE HOUSE. YOU JUST CAN'T!!! OKAY??!

>> No.50929776

Is this Australia? Not California I know that much.

>> No.50929781

>>50929748
From an objective standpoint, house hoarders and landlords are bad for society. There is a reason they are usually the first to get strung up in a revolution.

>> No.50929788

>>50929748
There are two problems:
First, everybody is unaware of how cheap human life is, historically.
Second, we are fucking up capitalism super hard, and that lack of capitalism is responsible for literally all of the problems in the world.

>> No.50929918

when its a more sensible economic decision not to rent it out and just let it sit, then housing has indeed become a pyramid scheme, and that's bad. raises rent for everyone. prices people out of home ownership. but anything for that zestimate amirite housefags?

>> No.50929961

>>50929748
Why do I think "fair price" here means far below market value and the people complaining are just looking for someone to subsidize the lifestyles they cannot afford.

>> No.50929971

>>50929748
I really don't see the issue with something like an empty property tax. Being legally compelled to rent out your unused properties to renters shouldn't be a problem if the government compensates you for damages caused by tenants.

>> No.50929974

>>50929776
New Zealand

>> No.50929979

>>50929781
>house hoarders
why not simply build more? could it be because goverment regulations keeping houses artificialy scarce?
>here is a reason they are usually the first to get strung up in a revolution.
yes, the ordinary man is a jealous retard

>> No.50929985

You can, but I will squat it

>> No.50929986

>>50929748
If I can afford to buy up a ton of land and use it for whatever I want including sitting on it for future sales thats my choice and my business rights since I have the funds. nobody is entitled or obligated to get land or houses in life and if I have enough money to afford multiple than sucks for everyone else. blackrock amount of ownership is where I draw the line but me owning ten peices of land around me is not anyones concern and they arent entitled to that land no matter how much they think they are. get enough money and buy your own land and build a house than faggot

>> No.50929995

the faggot who wrote this should get a heli ride

>> No.50929997

>>50929781
I can see house hoarders being a problem but landlords are a necessity. Someone has to manage and repair the properties and all the financial administration that goes along with it.
The alternative is being thrown in a communist gulag.

>> No.50930005

>>50929979
>why not simply build more?
that's an inefficient use of resources and house hoarders will just buy up all the new properties.
You don't want a ghost city situation like in china.

Compelling unused property to be rented out is not a bad idea.

>> No.50930045

>>50929986
I would argue that if you buy property with houses on it in a populated area you should be compelled to rent it out if you are doing nothing with it (aka it's not a summer home). If you don't rent it out, you pay an unused property tax.
If the land is rural, or if there is no house or apartment on the land, then you don't have to pay an unused property tax or be compelled to rent it out.

The foreign investment in property in cities is becoming a real issue.
Houses in london are sky high and no one is living in any of them because they're owned by foreign investors.

>> No.50930056

>>50930005
>that's an inefficient use of resources

Someone elses property is not your resource. As far as how efficient it is let the people who own it worry about the efficient use of it. They were smart enough to acquire the wealth to buy it, I suspect they are far more equipped to manage their own money than you are.

>> No.50930061

>>50930045
Of course if you passed this law then all the investors in london houses would just knock the houses down so they don't have to pay taxes and London would be literally demolished by foreigners.

>> No.50930067

If rent is high, vacancy is low. Simple as.

>> No.50930077

>>50930056
Unfortunately, private citizens are not sovereign, and live in communities with other people. They can either be compelled and incentivized to rent out their unused properties, or they can contribute to a growing homeless population that will end up squatting their property or violently taking it from them

>> No.50930080

>>50929961
Because that's exactly what's happening

>> No.50930081

>>50930045
I live in a cabin hamlet area where I could buy up 2000 acres of land and there's almost nobody around to care. so me buying up 10 pieces of land = 2000 acres still makes that mine and some entitled zoomqueer or millial fag going but but but you're obligated to rent it out for a fair (read below market value) price you bad evil man! TO THE WALL WITH YOUR KIND!
pathetic entitled children.

>> No.50930091

>>50930005
They had ghost cities because THEY HAVE A FUCKING PLANNED STUPID FUCKING ECONOMY THAT EVERYBODY LIKES TO CALL CAPITALIST FOR SOME REASON BUT IT ISN't.
Socialism literally is the reason we don't have enough houses, and ironically is the reason we are starting to see the same corruption that gave China 40 million worthless appartments.

>> No.50930098

>>50930077
Private citizens have rights to private property comrade. If you want them to rent out their empty property maybe ask why they don't already instead of making vacant threats.

>> No.50930100

>>50930081
You didn't read my post at all.
I specifically said rural land would be exempt from rent compulsion.
I also said that the consequence of not renting out an unused property would be a high tax, not any criminal punishment.

How else would you address people from china buying entire cities out from the native inhabitants.

>> No.50930138

>>50930098
Yes, and private property is best for the functioning of the system that is human society.
But in the end all the laws are arbitrary and are based on what would render the most functional society for it's members.

>> No.50930139

>>50929748
enough people revolting can bring a change, especially when it is too costly to police. So good on the locals to do that desu.

>> No.50930152

>>50930045
I argue that you are a retard. You’re not using your car right now. Rent it out at a reasonable price to another retard and let them fuck it up cause they don’t care, cause they’re poor and can’t afford their own car. And when you’re not using your car you should be taxed. Please die commie

>> No.50930158

>>50929781
this. it's what happens at the end of playing monopoly in real life.

>> No.50930172

>>50929961
Seriously. Faggots think they have a right of beach side property to be handed over to them

>> No.50930174

>>50929971

>It's okay that we're taking you stuff because we're going to shit on your pillow in return!

If it's not voluntary it's not a trade. You don't get to arbitrarily decide what's worth how much to who. That's communism.

>> No.50930176

>>50930152
That's not a good argument.
Like I said, you could claim a property as a vacation home or some other use and not have to rent it out. You would have to somehow show that you actually used the property though. And this only applies to property with houses on it in an urban or densely populated area, not rural areas.

Honestly, I almost suspect you are Chinese and don't want to rent your London houses to Londoners.

>> No.50930177

>>50930152
You are assuming commies can afford to buy cars.

>> No.50930178

>>50929748
Prohibitive taxes on non inhabited properties. There, i fixed it.

>> No.50930185

>>50930174
the best part is the endless bureaucracy created to enforce these stupid endless fucking rules.
talk about a police state holy shit

>> No.50930195

>>50930174
There's no decision about value anywhere in my post. You are making things up.
I just said that the government would compensate property owners for damages caused by tenants.

>> No.50930201

>>50930045
id rather tear the house to the ground than be forced to rent to brown folx by some bolsheviks

>> No.50930208

>>50930178
So you crash the market in every vacation town and tank their economy as nobody comes there on vacation anymore. Good job.

>> No.50930211

>>50930178
look at Nova Scotia, they just tried to implement it. Literal fucking fishermen were opposed to it because that shit is fucking retarded.
You are literally never going to succeed in this life if you keep thinking this way.

>> No.50930217

>>50930195
that would literally incentivize destruction moron. you are clearly brown based on your low iq and inability to extrapolate more than 2 steps into the future.

>> No.50930224

>>50930201
lel I thought that might happen
>>50930061
It'd be funny because foreign nationals would literally bulldoze a nations cities to the ground.
Make the not so subtle economic warfare more opaque.

>> No.50930240

>>50930201
this... i'll turn it into private farm fields for myself and fence it all off with 10ft tall fences and private property signs and armed guards. fuck letting subhumanoids of any race rent MY land and property.

>> No.50930246

>>50930224
>>50930217
Of course you could pass a law that property bought as an investment in an urban zone must supply the same amount of living units it had when bought or supply more, for a total of ten years, or some other time frame, so that investors couldn't just knock down city housing.

>> No.50930263

>>50930240
This all takes place in the city so you're new farms would have to meet zoning regulation.

>> No.50930264

>>50930208
What is hotels? Lmao try harder

>> No.50930271

>>50930246
>sets the home on fire
or you can fuck off with your retarded ideas that all have loopholes that you try to contort more bullshit faggot jew ideas into band-aiding over like a true government worshipping jewoid.

>> No.50930275

>>50930271
hmm, somehow everything you said makes sense and doesn't sound insane at all.

>> No.50930290

>>50930275
I agree with him. fuck you trying to come up with laws that force me to rent to people I dont want to nor am I obligated to. fucking entitled just seeps out in all your posts. you ARENT entitled to my land jew

>> No.50930293

>>50930275
yea i sound insane totally not you with your delusions of grandeur and control over your hypothetical lawmaking in your reddit brain make believe world where anyone gives a fuck about your opinion sitting here hypothesizing about what you will do to zoning law from your mothers basement

>> No.50930297

>>50930271
look man, I'm trying to help you.
You think these down and out people won't kill you for a house to live in but they will.
I want a system that doesn't constantly break down into chaos, that's all.

Humanity can't afford it's basic bitch instincts that lead to collapse and war anymore.
Our techs to evolved for serious conflict.

>> No.50930309

>>50930297
look rabbi you do not fit in as a goyim and your subversion tactics are glaringly obvious

>> No.50930310

>>50930263
I live outside of the city and thus your jew attempts to force me to rent to subhumanoids of any race is ignored and will always be ignored. As I said here >>50930290 I will tear it all down without the "city's" permission or ok. i'll buy the gear and equipment myself and oopsie poopsie all my buildings came down and its now all being converted to farmland. sorry jews none for you and your forced renting to subhumanoid plans

>> No.50930312

>>50930293
you sure are mad.

>> No.50930317

>>50930312
the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

>> No.50930321

>>50929781
>There is a reason they are usually the first to get strung up in a revolution.
Are they?

>> No.50930324

>>50930310
again, You are somehow accomplishing the immense task of ignoring what I'm writing in front of your eyes
>>50930100
>You didn't read my post at all.
>I specifically said rural land would be exempt from rent compulsion.

>> No.50930331

>>50930324
>argue with me over my retarded opinion that means nothing goyim

>> No.50930332

>>50930321
who are they?

>> No.50930335

>>50930324
there would be no forced rent anywhere jew. stop trying to force people to rent in your demented world in your head.
>>50930312
typical jew tactic to imply the victim is the bully

>> No.50930343

>>50930324
no one gives a shit what you explicitly said in your fantasy brownoid

>> No.50930354

>>50930331
you're disturbed.
I'm floating a hypothetical for anonymous discussion and your spouting off nazi memes and freaking out and accusing me of delusions of grandeur.
You may have a legit problem.
Do you know what the "Extremely Online Syndrome" is?
Might want to check it out.

>> No.50930359

>>50929748
> rent or sell your empty houses to locals
> 'ok im asking $1.4 million for this one'
> FUCK YOU IT HAS TO BE FOR WHAT I CONSIDER A FAIR PRICE

>> No.50930366

>>50930354
>I'm floating a hypothetical for anonymous discussion
you are disturbed if you think anyone gives a shit about your discussion

>> No.50930381

>>50930359
this is exactly what these entitled subhumanoids think. its worth 1.4mil? pshaw i'll pay 200k not a penny more! WHY WONT HE SELL! gubment pls force them to sell

>> No.50930383

>>50930366
You should also know that American law states the government can take any private citizens property at will so long as the citizen is compensated for it at fair market value.

How old are you?
Don't let the internet take over your brain.
Most people on the internet are morons.

>> No.50930401

>>50930383
>Most people on the internet are morons.
including myself.

I'd appreciate if you could debate my thesis rather than calling me names and screeching about jews.

>> No.50930415

>>50929748
why do these people feel entitled to live in that area? Being a homeless squatter does not make you "part of the community." Just move some place else.

>> No.50930458

>>50930401
Everyones a bad faith actor out for a quick buck.
lmao
Yall fighting over shit.
Humanity isn't going to survive AI.

>> No.50930464

>>50930401
>>50930383
i can literally tell you are a kike by the way you keep droning on and on like you enjoy the sound of your own demented kike thoughts.

>> No.50930476

>>50930464
ok bro

>> No.50930517

>>50930321
Wait and see. Wait and see...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Reform_Movement_(China)

>> No.50930685

>>50930005

In China they subsidized building empty buildings. Cities literally NEED to expand to get a budget which is insane. In a normal market, houses are upkeep money sinks so you either rent them out or sell them.

Just don't let foreigners buy your houses and the problem is pretty much moot like in Denmark. No more Chinese funny money investors.

>> No.50930701

>>50930067

This, the issue is certainly not births so it must be immigrants

>> No.50930707

>>50930100

Taxes are criminal punishment

>> No.50930712

>>50930176

Stop worrying about my stuff, my trigger finger is getting itchy

>> No.50930736

>>50930195

Why would someone spend their capital on something without value? If it has no value, why is the government getting involved or you for that matter? How would you determine the "fuck you we're stealing your house here's some spare change" amount without ascribing a valuation to the property? What about my emotional attachment to the property, how much is that worth? Do you commies even think about the stuff you write?

>> No.50930759

>>50930297

Just expell everything not white enough especially jews and make mortgages illegal again. Also abolish the income tax and basically all your problems don't exist.

>> No.50930775

>>50930354

You are mentally ill as fuck and you think life is a video game where you can program others through laws. Just Waco them if they resist lmao. Do a psychopath test please.

>> No.50930788

>>50930383

This isn't Israel where you can just steal someone's home

>> No.50930789

>>50930736
I'm not a communist.
I'm just saying taxing real estate investors in populated cities who leave properties vacant would dissuade foreigners from buying out city neighborhoods so locals have no where to live.
If your city is filled with empty houses and tons of homeless people, your system is broken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8XyavKqZr4

>> No.50930794

>>50929979
In the US, they haven't really figured out how to do city planning yet, so there is a bug in the system where in the next 50 years, no amount of extra building would mean cheaper homes.
The problem is, when we build, we build bigger and further away from anything.
If we want to make things cheaper, we should build a lot of small apartments right next to where we expect people to live. Like next to the university, shopping mall, etc.
This way, buying properties is a lot more expensive as you buy a large apartment complex instead of a duplex, which means less competition among investors and less rent for each individual person.

>> No.50930801

>>50930789

>I'm not a communist
>I'm just saying taxing

Bolshevik

>> No.50930810

>>50930789
>>50930794
Perhaps I can interest your tribal instincts in some foreigner housing investment leaving native people homeless?

>> No.50930811

>>50930794

Or just kick out the 170 million illegals. Racial replacement is genocide.

>> No.50930827

>>50929748
Bailout these homeowners!

>> No.50930832

>>50930794
>a lot of small apartments
Absolutely retarded take.
You should build commieblocks with 30 m2 apartments for singles, 45 m2 apartments for couples without kids and 60 m2 apartments for couples with kids, around 100 apartments per building.

>> No.50930859

What you are not taking into account is the inversion of value systems in western nations.
They've been so deluded by the variety of socio-economic ideologies floating around, that when they see a massive and growing homeless population, they become reassured of their own ideologies by way of them not being homeless.
Everyone now subconsciously thinks the more homeless people there are, the better. Thus the more homeless people there are, the better any one persons belief system is!

>> No.50930861
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50930861

>>50930794
Sorry, I was mistaken, I thought you proposed to build small houses.

To illustrate >>50930832 see picrel.
Just fucking imagine how much area you would need to fit all people if you built suburban houses.

>> No.50930927

>>50930861

These places are always drug and crime infested hubs of human misery. Society has a very simple mechanism against overcrowding. Things become more expensive, people have less kids and over time stuff becomes more affordable again.

This is why they want immigrants to keep pushing the births down. It's literally genocide. Get rid of the foreigners and things will balance themselves.

>> No.50930945

>>50930927
>These places are always drug and crime infested hubs of human misery.
Nope, it depends on the people inside. Of course, if you place niggers there you will get a ghetto, but then the problem is the niggers, not the commie block.

>> No.50931069
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50931069

I built my home last year after working 2 jobs for 9 years and saving for the deposit and have made 200k in equity doing nothing since the house prices have exploded.

Going to use that equity on another home

>But House prices will crash!

They've been saying that for decades and it hasn't happened, if it does it will be lie 10 to 20 percent at most and im still substantially in the up on my loan regardless.

Rentcucks seething

>> No.50931093

>>50931069
if you have rental properties it won't effect you when the market crashes.
All it will mean is property is cheaper to buy.
You *literally* can't lose at monopoly.

>> No.50931132

>>50929979
>could it be because goverment regulations keeping houses artificialy scarce?
Landlords are pro land permit restriction, and pro immigration - Two factors that keep rent demand artificially high.

You're totally off base. It's NatSocs and libertarians that wanna string landies up on lamp posts, not commies.

>> No.50931197

>>50929781
They’ll just run back to China, easy.

>> No.50931209

>>50929748
based. fuck grockles

>> No.50931225

>>50931132
>It's NatSocs and libertarians that wanna string landies up on lamp posts, not commies.
no, it's commies too.
Everybody hates landlords.

>> No.50931234

>>50929986
This is where the government needs to step in. You are free to be greedy and do something that doesn’t benefit society. But you will need to pay for it. Any home that is not your main dwelling will be taxed at a quadruple rate. Same goes for commercial property. Most especially commercial property needs to be mega taxed if kept vacant.

>> No.50931243

>how do we solve the problem that government overreach created?
>with even more government overreach!

This is literally half the posts ITT

>> No.50931266

>>50931243
Basically this.
If there is such demand that the price skyrockets and yet no one steps in to reap the profit by providing the supply, then it's almost always the government who cockblocks it.

>> No.50931268

>>50931234
no it wont jew fuck off with your greedy ploys to punish me for buying land I can afford. its my land and you have zero business or concern what I do or dont do with my land. now run along and tend to your property and life and stop trying to stick your jewish nose in mine.

>> No.50931291

>>50931243
Government over reach and capitalistic pig overreach requires a fine balance to keep both in check. Libertarian concepts are fun on paper but much like anarchy you can’t trust sociopaths to do the right thing.

>> No.50931305

>>50930176
Londoners=pajeets
You’re right, I don’t want to rent it out to useless garbage

>> No.50931310

>>50929788
>lack of capitalism is responsible for literally all of the problems in the world.
what a fucking brainlet. i hate commies more than anyone on this board but cmon you are a fucking retard

>> No.50931324

>>50931268
That land doesn’t belong to you. Even now it belongs to your local county and country.

>> No.50931349

>>50931324
>jew keeps jewing

>> No.50931352

>>50931291
>Government over reach and capitalistic pig overreach requires a fine balance to keep both in check.
Too bad that USA is a perfect example of corpocracy where this cannot happen.

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50931387

>>50929781
No retard. Landlords are an essential service to society

>> No.50931407

>>50931310
Capitalism is the single thing responsible for lifting the mist people out of poverty in the history of the planet, and it's only been around for a couple hundred years.

Also, capitalism is responsible for the technological innovations that have consistently increased the carrying capacity of the world far beyond what the smartest minds thought possible in centuries pasts. The same old Malthusian arguments are still made today (not coincidentally, by commies).

As this anon >>50931266 pointed out, when there are economic rents to be had, but no one is moving in to increase supply for those easy profits, it's typically because governments are fucking shit up and disallowing the supply from meeting the demand.

>> No.50931445

>>50929781
Too many fighting aged men are gooning to HD 4K VR tranny anime bukkake piss vore stepsister cuck momcest vore futa porn for there to be any semblance of a revolution

>> No.50931483

>>50929748
>a fair price
I think a BTC fair price is 0

>> No.50931512

>>50929748
>>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST OWN MORE THAN ONE HOUSE. YOU JUST CAN'T!!! OKAY??!
Socialists in Norway are unironically calling for this because of they want to live in the city with all the immigrants who gets subsidized housing.. not realising that they are the reason the prices are high.
>Temporary workers
>Students
>Private companies renting out apartments
These are all reasons they have dreamt up as to why prices are high.
The state owning 90% of the rental appartments and continously buying to house rapefugees is however not an issue.

>> No.50931539

>>50931243
Landlords are the largest beneficiaries of government over regulation and land permit restriction. Technological advancements and exponential increases in construction technique efficiency mean that housing should be logarithmically becoming dirt cheaper as a function of time. Landlordism should be virtually impossible to turn profits in this day and age with our ability to put up middle class American cardboard houses in 24hrs. I've worked on these "pack up n go" homes, and the fact that these sell for $400k+ defies every sense of logic imaginable, and proves how fake and gay the entire housing market truly is. Landords aren't just innocently throwing their hands in the air while making fucking bank, It is exceedingly obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that landlords are one of, if not the largest lobbyists bribing politicians and governors to gridlock land building permits

If I were in the shoes of a greedy landfaggot, I swear, I would fund the ever living shit out of green movements, mass migration, open borders, and make sure that I restrict new buildings from going up with every single fiber in my body.

>> No.50931554

>>50929961
“Market value” doesn’t mean anything if you’re allowing billion dollar jew firms compete against first time home buyers for single-family homes

Fuck you you fucking kike rat

>> No.50931561

>>50931554
Didnt read
Never selling
House prices 30x by end of decade

>> No.50931565

>>50931407
and uncontrolled cutthroat capitalism is the reason you and your beloved ones will get cancer and get useless drugs from careless profit sniffing doctors instead of treating your problems. capitalism is killing the world and making the poor impossible to break out from poverty.

also anything you said is bullshit and had nothing to do with capitalism.

capitalism was at its peak when factory owners released thier own currencies and paid thier own workers with that usless shit and they could only spend it on factory owners run stores. they also slept in factory owners provided pods. capitalism also loved child labour.

capitalism only works for the top 1% and maybe another 15%. everyone else suffers.

you are an idiot, probably with a wealthy family.

>> No.50931575

>>50931539
based and truthpilled anon
>If I were in the shoes of a greedy landfaggot, I swear, I would fund the ever living shit out of green movements, mass migration, open borders, and make sure that I restrict new buildings from going up with every single fiber in my body.
yep thats exactly what is happening.

>> No.50931592

>>50931539
>it's actually the government regulations that the lawmakers were bribed into implementing and enforcing that caused this problem

I get a sense that you were trying to disagree with me, but just basically repeating what I said.

>> No.50931600

>>50930067
no lol, having a shit tenant is worse than vacancy

>> No.50931611
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>> No.50931612

>>50930517
>Blackrock is going to hung by leftists
lmao

>> No.50931626

>>50930091
states have been planning their economies ever since westphalian sovereignty 400 years ago

>> No.50931656

>>50930081
> 2000 acres
Enjoy spending all your time and money guarding your perimeter

>> No.50931729

>>50931554
this. fuck jews.

>> No.50931749

>>50931592
Nope. Unless your post was insinuating that landlords somehow suffer in any way from regulation

>> No.50931848

>>50931554
>billion dollar jew firms
And their get 'money' from gov printing presses

>> No.50931859

>>50929748
People just can't have civil conversations anymore can they?

>> No.50931871

>>50930794
>we should build a lot of small apartments right next to where we expect people to live

Go a step further.
Make living pods in workplace of the slave-caste

>> No.50931875

>>50929748
"but there are poor homeless people dying on the streets" ok but if xmr still allows me to buy 3 houses and charge people to live in them, then it means that homeless people are still poor because they want to be

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50931900

>>50929781
yeah but in America everybody and his brother has a couple of properties. it's a BIG minority consisting of many upwardly mobile, still with the stink of hard labor...and the ability to beat your ass. to stomp your fucking guts out.
>revolution
kek. pic related

>> No.50932696

>>50929748
Buy a cheap rust bucket car and park it in front of the house, when the owner arrives they'll have to call a tow truck to move it, then repeat the process until they get fed up and sell the house

>> No.50932794

>>50931565
>mixes a bunch of unrelated things and get butthurted this hard
>pretends to no be a communism but act like one
Statists should get the rope just for projecting their own incompetence in creating working economies and increasing economic mobility.

>> No.50932796

>>50929748
You can in Dubai. Even The Great Living Estate in Switzerland and Fortera in Portugal will help you get more houses with cryptocurrencies like BTC USDC UTK.

>> No.50932907

>>50932794
>OHH NOOOO YOU CANT CALL OUT THE CRIMES OF CAPITALISM
>DUMPING CARCINOGENS IN WATER SUPPLY AND INTO THE FOODCHAIN IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION
capitalism really works out well even nowadays, fucking grocery stores are price gouging in a recession and used cars cost over 15k. wow capitalism works so nice.

kill yourself. capitalism is the downfall of our civilization, thats why we are ruled over by corporations and healthcare is no longer about treating patients but keeping them in a loop of comsooming harmful 'medicine'.
Only people at the top 20% praise capitalism as they are the benefittors or this madness.

and no you ugly cockroach, hating capitalism doesnt mean I support communism. thise polarized 2 party thinking is a sure sign of idiots and shills.

>> No.50932916

>>50932794
also nice stagnating wages for the past 50 years you nigger but atleast the rich gets richer every year and a 50 year old house costs 500k you double nigger

>> No.50932956

>>50932916
Way more to home valuation than the age of a house . 50 years old house ain't shit btw

>> No.50933014

>>50932956
Not where you live...
Obviously lot depends on location. In buttend of nowhere in villages far away from civilization, infrasturcture and job opportunities are relative cheap.

>> No.50933016
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>>50932907
>dude it's not fair that people are gouging the price of scarce products because everything should be free and infinite during a crisis
>i live in a subsidized shithole with the state distorting incentives and creating unfair advantages for corporations
>everything is wrecked even more by a centralized currency with a central bank obsessed for MUH STIMULUS DUUUUUUUUDE, INFINITE GROWTH because muh stronk economy and "let's bail out every retarded incompetent parasite"
Yes bro, we're truly living the dream of free market capitalism in a country that loves the symbols of freedom more than freedom itself.

>> No.50933024

Op doesn't own even one house

>> No.50933045

>>50929961
I suspect that you are 100% correct

>> No.50933077

>>50930061
That’s basically a physical representation of the economic impact of foreigners buying prime real estate and leaving it empty for capital gains speculation.

>> No.50933089

You can have all the houses you want..
> but you
> can't rent them
> can't sell them @ more then what you paid for it

what would happen?
> wink wink

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>>50933016
>dude it's not fair that people are gouging the price of scarce products because everything should be free and infinite during a crisis
you argue like some typical far right 80iq loser. the far right doesnt need you you only paint us in a bad picture.

food is anything but scarce you idiot. same goes for gasoline. or housing, we have lots of land but its forbidden to build on it. we have the technology to build cheap homes fast yet construction work is kiked to no end.
also used cars as scarce products?? you are a fucking halfwit dude.

If you knew anything about the world you would know food and other products are thrown away just to keep prices artifically high. Ive seen it with my eyes. Funiture, food, plants, toys. Doesnt matter it will go into a dumpster or a grinder so no one can use it.

Uncontrolled capitalism is madness. You eat microplastics because its cheaper that way, fucking goy.

>> No.50933187

>>50932696
>they'll have to call a tow truck to move it
More like they'll have to call a police to witness the trespassing of their private property and to check the house in case someone is hiding inside.

>> No.50933213

>>50933103
>you argue like some typical far right 80iq loser. the far right doesnt need you you only paint us in a bad picture
Oh you mean the same faggots bitching about kikes and then getting kiked by supporting a kike worshipping president, that far right?

How cute, you're gayer than what i thought.
>food is anything but scarce you idiot. same goes for gasoline. or housing, we have lots of land but its forbidden to build on it. we have the technology to build cheap homes fast yet construction work is kiked to no end.
If it's not convenient to exploit that kind of resource, nobody cares about your fertile land, and commiefornia should be an example for that, if you pay more for importing water than anything, thank fuck in a free market no one wants to have anything to do about it, it's too inefficient and you're sucking money from others to fuel your subsidized activity in constant losses.
>also used cars as scarce products??
Yes? What is not scarce in this world, do you want people to just buy used cars ready to get thrown into the junk after 5 years or so?
>If you knew anything about the world you would know food and other products are thrown away just to keep prices artifically high
Whatever faggot, next time try to not create a legal monopoly for that.

>> No.50933262

>>50929748
The biggest wastes in society are lazy entitled shits wanting handouts. If there's something you want, get a job and earn it. The world owes you NOTHING.

>> No.50933285

>>50929997
Why cant everyone be their own landlord?

>> No.50933342

>>50933103
You’re fucking retarded and don’t even understand what the term scarcity means. Typical low IQ retarded communist shit skin faggot. Kill yourself.

>> No.50933402

>>50933342
>pajeet lashes out in his defeat
Im whiter and more right leaning than you. I would gas you brown ass if given the chance.
>>50933213
eat the mircoplastics, the xenohormones, get jabbed and shut the fuck up while you grow tumors, shrivel up and die.

>> No.50933427

>>50929974
>>50929776
This is in Cornwall, UK. I Live in St Ives and the second home problem is a bit more complicated than simply owning another home.

>> No.50933462

>>50933402
He's right, you don't even know what scarcity means and you want to debate economics with me?

As a technician i can tell you the longer any machine works, the higher its failure rate over time, why the fuck should i use a car costing me more in maintainance over time than buying a new one?

>> No.50933500

>>50933462
gypsyface I learned economics for 4 semesters
I know what scarcity means you negrid. everyone knows.
just because your ape hands googled the (((textbook))) meaning 20 minutes ago doesnt mean you know shit.

Scarcity is artifical, its non existent. Its fake.
Is it reddit day on biz today? Its like im arguing with those smug shitskins.

>> No.50933513

>>50933500
you’re degrading into that one homeless guy that yells at people when they walk out the bar

>> No.50933549

>>50933402
The only thing whiter than me is the semen I ejaculate from my dick into your mother’s vagina

>> No.50933563

>>50933500
>gypsyface I learned economics for 4 semesters
And you're still an extremely retarded faggot that knows nothing about it, and without any real argument beside bitching about dah capatalism, lol.

Far-righters are as economically retarded as commies, statist whining bitches who don't understand the underlying reasons to make certain economic choices.

>> No.50933576

>>50930098
These people who own 15 houses usually aren't even citizens. Your argument boils down to this: rich chinese thieves deserve to hold multiple homes vacant as a store of value while letting the buildings rot

>> No.50933596

>>50930195
>the government would compensate
Commie retards must die

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Btw i'm done here for now, if you want to sperg out more and tonguing my ass further, this is your time to shine.

>> No.50933633

>>50933103
all resources are scarce, retard. everything requires human effort to produce, and everything produced is at the cost of something else not produced.
your politics aren't welcome, they don't change the basic facts that all serious economics schools share, go back to whatever reddit shithole you came from.

>> No.50933643

>>50933549
the only thing you ejaculate into is the palm of your hand that that banana peel you use as discount pocket pussy
>>50933563
yeah yeah more blah blah blah you contributed nothing to this discussion except some strawman bs

>> No.50933671

People who think second or holiday homes aren't a problem have obviously never experienced it for themselves. There are entire towns / large villages in rural England that have essentially become ghost towns because the moment a property there goes up for sale it is bought up by some rich cunt as a getaway they'll use for one week a year. Not only does it mean nobody can buy a house to live there any more, but it also means there are no workers. Restaurants have had to close because there's simply nobody living nearby that can work there.

We'll see how much these twats enjoy their holiday when the entitle local community has collapsed from a lack of the working class.

>> No.50933699

>>50930056
It could be argued that every citizen has the right to a place to live. If you are wasting land, you are infringing on that right and need to make up for it in some way.

>> No.50933718

>>50929781
>There’s a reason
Jealousy and brokenness, both diseases.

>> No.50933721

>>50933262
the world doesn't owe you a life. hand over the property or i'm going to cut your eyelids off and cannibalize your wife, just for fun.

>> No.50933725

>>50933633
>all resources are scarce
cool story bro
>everything requires human effort to produce
wow interesting. really? everything?
>everything produced is at the cost of something else not produced
another idiot just spitting out some bs with nothing of value or substance, just to feel intelectually superior.

you had your moment now move along.

>> No.50933753

>>50933671
Had there not been rich people buying those homes the people who would buy them would be poor people who couldn't afford to live anywhere where there's actual jobs nearby. Over time the entire town would be nothing but worthless shit houses that falls further and further into disrepair.

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>>50933721
based.

>> No.50933820

>>50933699
No it absolutely couldn’t be argued. Rights are given by God not the government you stupid fucking retard.

>> No.50933879

>>50933820
I'm sure your parents love you anyway, maybe give them a call instead of posting on 4chan all day?

>> No.50933890

>>50933753
What a load of absolute shit. Shut up.

>> No.50933930

im about to buy my second home. I dont even plan to rent it, it will just sit empty for most of the year. my parents and siblings also own multiple mostly vacant properties. We earned our money and can spend it how we please. Stop the envy and earn your place

>> No.50933939

>>50933890
Just look up what happened to the rust bt in the US. Once the jobs go and nobody is willing to up the homes, the places literally fall into ruin. You seriously think people want to live permanently in qn area without any jobs for shits and giggles or something?

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>>50929748
That's why I'm supporting what Elon is pushing when it comes to leaving this Earth. So many haters. Imagine someone doesn't want you to pwn more than one house.
That's another reason to also go decentralized and make these power and control mongers go powerless, especially if you're into a layer 1 blockchain with programmable privacy so that they can't trace the fuck you're on to

>> No.50933960

At a fair price too? LMAO. Godamn it anon when my matic bag makes me a millionaire I'm buying all of y'all at least one two bedroom apartment.

>> No.50933976

>>50933930
Go ahead and do it. Try to also go private in whatever you are doing. It reduces the rate at which you'll get all this hate. Do whatever you like

>> No.50933978

>Buy second home so I have somewhere to go on holiday often
>I should be forced to rent this out and therefore lose my holiday home because .....................??????????????
fuck commies

>> No.50933993

Just allow the construction of denser housing where the market ask for more supply even Quebecers can do that. Just build more housing even red states that don't like multiplexes understand that by at least letting urban sprawl go wild.

>> No.50934021

>>50933978
>80iq in action
no problem you understood the underlying problem well.

see? this is why money, wealth =/= intelligence or hard work/effort.

>> No.50934057

>>50929971
There is an empty property tax already. My primary house is classified as homestead, and cabin in the woods where I like to spend the weekends can be classified as recreational, therefore taxed higher than of it was my primary property. I planted some strawberries out there though so I can classify it as agricultural land though and pay pretty much nothing.

>> No.50934060

>>50934021
>bro just implement policies to soft prevent the working and lower-middle class from being able to have multiple homes this will definitely stick it to the 1%
inherited property is the #1 way for poorer families to move up the ladder and you want to take that away
die

>> No.50934063

>>50931407
a 300 year massive leap forward but at what cost? We've irreversibly poisoned every living thing on earth for the rest of time.

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>>50929748
Hypothetically, if I were to own a second home like this, would it be legal to install automatic firing guns all around the property? I'd love to install all kinds of creative defensive machinery or dystopian robots that automatically dispatch wave upon wave of anti-personnel rounds into any low-life squatter or woke hippie that dares to set even a single toe on my property.

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ITT pic related

>inb4 i'm not a commie!
Don't care.

>> No.50934135

>>50934124
you left out the part where the captialist is jewish and he also controls local, state, and federal government.

>> No.50934158

>>50933993
I LOVE MY BEAUTIFUL COUNTY AND GREEN LANDSCAPES THAT I HAVE A BIRTHRIGHT TO BEING USED TO BUILD SHITTY COMMIEBLOCKS AS THE HOUSING THAT ONCE WAS AFFORDABLE IS NOW BEING BOUGHT BY RICH BANKING JEWS

>> No.50934159

>>50934135
>the solution to jewish influence in modern capitalist societies is to turn them into communist societies where the local, state and federal government are more powerful and are also dominated by jews

>> No.50934170

>>50934159
yes, the solution is to return the power to the people who actively participate in society 40+ hours a week and "make the world go round."

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Without landlords these poorfag homeless wouldnt even have a home.
Do they really think that if multi-house maintainers sold their property, it would somehow end up in their hands?

>> No.50934184

>>50934135
As if the amount of faggots in this thread pretending to control people like puppets otherwise "i kill u, i do le hecking revilution/day of the rope XDDD" are not jewish enough.

>> No.50934186

>>50934170
>the solution to jews is more jews
antisemites ladies and gentlemen

>> No.50934194

>>50934170
>DUUUD, POWAH TO DAH PEEPOO

>> No.50934197

>>50934060
who said that. nobody cares about your working class family
we live in a profit oriented feudalism.
couple big families and factory owners rule over whole counties like medieval lords, undermining the interest of many and thier quality of life etc.

all those people aka the 1% and thier families can get the guillotine and the state of humanity will improve significantly.

>> No.50934204

>>50930359
If it burns it will be way lower. Just saying

>> No.50934230

I had a vision of the future where squatting in empty houses went viral
and it became so widespread and popular amongst the general public that it became a “finders keepers” sort of thing

>> No.50934235

>>50931310
>what a fucking brainlet. i hate commies more than anyone on this board but cmon you are a fucking retard
.gov meddles in every level of markets and there twaddling about creates distortions, huge ones.
you are the retard.

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>>50934197
>DUDE JUST KILL THE 1% BRO, THE 1% YOU KILL THEM EVERYTHING IMPROVE
>FUCKING 1% I'M GOING TO KILL U ONCE I FINISH THIS HAPPY MEAL MY MOM BOUGHT FOR ME, I DO LE DAY OF THE COPE I DO LE COPELUTION

>> No.50934249

>>50934194
there's a breaking point in every civilization. you might want to read about peasant revolts throughout time. like i said, i make six figures and am fairly comfortable. but i spent years grinding shitty jobs to get where i am. i understand how fucked everything is, and i also understand how i got lucky -- it's not purely a function of hard work.

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>>50931387
I'm going to post this to reddit
See what the rentoids think about it

>> No.50934263

They shoould be allowed to own as many homes as they want.

But the fed should also allow this entire fucking market to bomb out and crash into oblivion. The entire global economy is being propped up by them buying up shitty mortgage bonds and eating Ls.

You think these guys would buy more homes when they take a 50% loss with no hopes of pumping back up? They buy these homes because they know the fed will do everything they can to protect their value.

>> No.50934296

>>50934249
>LIKE BRO, ONE DAY THE PEEPOO WILL RISE UP AND KILL THE ONE PERCENT AND EVERYTHING IMPROVES LIKE MAGICK!
>BECAUSE I KNOW DAH PEEPOO IS A 300 IQ MONOLITH FOLLOWING THE BEST PATH POSSIBLE
>also i make six figures, i am smart and brave and my cock is long 1 mile and i kniw everything

>> No.50934325

>>50934296
>childishly indignant all caps response
>also thinks six figures is a lot
ask me how i know you're poor (and will remain poor.)

>> No.50934346

>>50934325
how do you know he's poor and will remain poor

>> No.50934356

>>50934346
for one, he thinks six figures is a lot of money, and not just the new middle class.

>> No.50934389

>>50934356
I'm mostly shitposting but realistically six figures(lets say post 300k) can last you a long time if you actually have that amount liquid and decide to move out of the city. Which to be honest you should be immediately looking to do (if you have 6 figures saved in cash but for some reason decided to stay in the city because muh restaurants and muh diversity)

>> No.50934393

>>50933285
>be wealthy enough to build and maintain property and you want return on your investment
>be not wealthy enough to build and maintain property
It's that easy

>> No.50934394

>>50934240
ignorance is a bliss. I actually envy stupid people like you.

imagine a slave being grateful for his shackles. fucking kek.
me as a simple pleb Im in contract with society. we have a set of basic rules agreed upon(+a bunch of kikery) and Im punished hard when I break those rules.
Time to hold the 1% to the same standards.

When cutthroat capitalism and contaminated water and food will give you butt cancer you might think about it.

>> No.50934406

>>50934325
Becase i have nothing else to talk about with mongoloids like you, because if we want to be honest no paesant revolt helped society improve, 90% of the time it becomes a bigger shithole than how it was.

And let's be realistic, you will never do shit just like the other faggot i'm mocking, because you're pussies just like commies are pussies nowdays and will only riot for drugged niggerinos and not for better living conditions.

>> No.50934430

>>50934393
prices are bullshit and opportunities are locked behind regulations and other kikery.
artificial bs to make the rich richer and keep the poor where they are = as wageslave untermensch class.

>> No.50934436

>>50934389
i grew up in a rural town of 3k people. rural areas aren't much better than urban areas. you're trading niggers for meth/pill/fentanyl addicts, severe brain drain, no single/childless women under 200 pounds, and a complete dearth of employment prospects. there's a reason why these areas are cheap.

>> No.50934437

>>50934394
YOU WILL DO NOTHING (because we no you will do fucking nothing, bunch of larping losers)
>DUDE WE GOING TO KILL THE 1% GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NAW!!11!!

>> No.50934461

>>50934436
>rural areas aren't much better than urban areas
If you have 300k cash in the bank then they're monstrously better. Your quality of life will skyrocket because you'll actually be able to afford basically anything you want and your over head for living will drop by like 75% . You'll go from needing 50k+ to live to sub 10k and actually have the option of being able to purchase assets instead of renting and mortgaging them

>> No.50934462

>>50934406
>muh gommies
if a communist uprising will never happen, why has anti-communist rhetoric ramped up to levels not seen since 1950s mccarthyism?

>> No.50934469

>>50929748
YOU CAN'T EVEN USE MORE THAN ONE ROOM AT ONCE SO YOU CAN'T HAVE MULTIPLE HOUSES!!! REEE etc
If I wasn't a failure I'd have multiple houses, just so I'd have a fun variety of places to wake up in
And I'd never rent them out, because I hate people

>> No.50934477

>>50929961
>the people complaining are just looking for someone to subsidize the lifestyles they cannot afford.
Exactly. These goyim should just accept material reality and go rent a pod. Maybe if you work your butt off and eat the bugs for a few decades (and quit it with the damn avocado toast) you will have earned yourself the privilege (but not the right) to bid on a 1 a little fixer-upper in the diverse areas of town.

Implying that rich people are abusing this system is antisemitism.

>> No.50934479

>>50929781
I know, let's put all the people into a single environmentally conscious block and that'll solve all problems whatsoever! yay

>> No.50934482

>>50929979
>its the goverment regulations keeping houses artificialy scarce
You are a fucking moron.

>> No.50934501

>>50934461
i'm pretty sure i will end up buying a home in a rural area (i wfh and don't want to be a mortgage slave for 30 years) but it does come with significant tradeoffs.

>> No.50934503

>>50934462
>why has anti-communist rhetoric ramped up to levels not seen since 1950s mccarthyism
Cry more faggot, the left is unironically castrated while not being actively persecuted, you will do nothing because you're a faggot.

>> No.50934507

>>50933753
What an astonishingly stupid argument

>> No.50934540

>>50934503
>that left/right niggerbrain
"both" sides are pro big business

>> No.50934547

>>50934501
The only real trade off is you'll have to drive more. Everything else is a plus unless you enjoy overcrowded areas, pollution, loud noise, crime, high prices for everything etc. Sure you won't be able to walk out at 3AM and grab a bite to eat but nothings stopping you from cooking something yourself at 3AM. Of course if you don't have a lot of savings or can't work from home then you're actually at risk of fucking yourself over I'll grant that.

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>>50934540
And your side is a huge inconsistent larp with 6 gorillion sub-ideologies, i'm going to call you fags LARP-wingers just like the other far-right retard.

>> No.50935452

>>50930945
if you put nice people in shitty living conditions, the people adapt to the living conditions, not the other way round

>> No.50935994

larp wingers lol this cockroach is a microdick loser still living with his parents.

you should shut the fuck up when adults talk you idiot nigger. die

>> No.50936133

>>50929748
Op just raging about an injustice is meaningless. Discuss solutions. Everyone should get get one home (up to one million dollars, or soros would get a 500 million dollar home tax free)

One home tax free, for life, then for the Richtards and corporations who want to own hundreds of homes and farms, let THEM pay an increased property tax on everything they own after the first million dollars of their first home.

This solution would ease the tax burden on IRL working people, at the same time force the mega rich (and only them) to pay more if they want to get over on the system and own dozens or hundreds of properties.

>> No.50936164

>>50931132
Checking in. Not necessarily a commie and not necessarily a NatSoc. Just wanted to let you know there is at least a third group that would also like to string you up.

>> No.50936184

>>50929748
Every time they say "fair price" or "fair share", you can spit in their faces. It's only fair.

>> No.50936210

>>50931310
he's right. Government interference at fucking every level of business does not a free market make. We do not exist in a free market, and a free market doesn't exist on Earth. It may have for a vanishingly brief period relatively recently, but that's not what we have now.

>> No.50936211

>>50931132

libertarians support land ownership retard

>> No.50936268

>>50933427
could you please elaborate? I've visited your beautiful region in the past. Very little immigrants if I recall correctly.

>> No.50936274

>>50932916
do you actually know why that is?
do you even know what one dollar represents?
it really doesn't seem like it
everything in your post is due to the kiked money supply and increased labor force (immigrants, illegals).

>> No.50936280

>>50936274
should have included women there

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>>50930005
brainlet alert
>>50930794
brainlet alert
>>50934482
brainlet alert.

i have to share this earth with these utter retards. they can probably excel in computer science, but somehow they can't grasp the most basic of things. perhaps because its related to economics, which is influenced by people's decision making, and anything related to people they can't understand because they're autistic.
is 4chan the microcosm of the world today? highly technological, yet completely illiterate in any other facet of thinking?

>> No.50936376

>>50930208
>vacation town
formerly known as towns where regular people lived

>> No.50936461

>>50930794
>If we want to make things cheaper, we should build a lot of small apartments right next to where we expect people to live. Like next to the university, shopping mall, etc.

we do this. some boomer real estate developer is trying to do this in my nigger shithole town. it's called gentrification. they build a lot of small apartments. except they're always (and in my case) luxury apartments owned by jewish investment firms, and they rent for $2200/month minimum. i guess it's a good thing that negroes are driven out -- and it only cost an arm and a leg to live there! remember when discrimination used to be free?

>> No.50936475

>>50934063
>We've irreversibly poisoned every living thing on earth for the rest of time.
If humanity vanished today, there would be no visible (without archaeology) traces of it in 10000 years, probably earlier.
>>50935452
> shitty living conditions
Dude, everywhere outside USA it is called either normal living conditions or premium. You have no idea what is "shitty living conditions".

>> No.50936504

>>50936274
so your argument is that we not live in 'real capitalism' like redditors argue 'true communism' have never been tried before?
crazy.
capitalism choose corruption and greed above all. immigration , money supply, companies too big to fail bailed are all part of the capitalist hellscape.
migrants keep wages low and housing demands high, the rich always bought up land and properties. they only win.
the money supply and planned inflation only supports the rich as they are the ones getting low interest loans with friendly conditions. basically free money for them as the inflation is higher than thier interest rates.

idc what we call the next system but I know it shouldnt be like the one we have now.

if you and your family are high in the socioeconomic ladder good for you, keep 'working' as the rewards and services society provides for you are acceptable but for the majority of people living conditions are hellish.

I also like how none of you touch the subject of food/water/soil quality and neither talk about the obviously jewed corrupt money hungry shithole that is western healthcare system.

>> No.50936518

>>50929748
I could fix all the problems but we'd have to kill 30,000,000 idiots to get it done. The problem is at this point the parasitic political and media class have tens of millions of hysterical zombies at their beck and call. No meaningful reform can be accomplished without fighting through their idiot army. You quite literally cannot fix the state of western civilization without a war and not just a war but a war of genocidal scale and intent. The urbanite has to be culled like the Mongols culled Bahgdahd.

>> No.50936739
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50936739

>>50936211
They don't support landlords bribing politicians to implement fuck tons of land permit regulations, fucking everyone else though the tyranny of the state.
(which is currently what literally all of them do)

>> No.50936790

>>50929748
All those words painted on the home and not one offer to buy. Pathetic!

>> No.50936856

>>50929918
It only make economic sense to leave the home vacant when the local courts have made it too expensive or almost impossible to evict a bad tenant. You have to weigh the risk verses reward.

>> No.50936902

>>50936475
industrial chemicals do not break down

>> No.50936972

>>50936856
The reason homes are left vacant is because they're bank owned. Banks get to print money out of thin air BUT they have a single constraint: capital requirements. They must have sufficient assets on their book to justify their overall leverage. Let's say Wells Fargo owns 400B in empty homes. This is all fine and dandy so long as they can keep these 400B counted as capital reserves. But they can't sell them for cash. No. Why? Because it'll crash the market and suddenly their 400B capital reserves are only 300B capital reserves. That 100B loss is 10X leveraged so it means 1T less lending power. That'll further crash the economy, sending them into a deflationary and de-leverage spiral of doom.

Do you get it yet? Banks are playing this stupid bullshit game because of the fucking retards bullshit way our banking laws are written. They're holding enormous amounts of empty property just so they don't have to write it off as a loss and can keep pretending it's holding value so they don't have to de-leverage.

The entire thing is fucking retarded and everyone involved in conceiving it and propagating it should be killed for gross idiocy.

>> No.50937305

>>50929918
>its a more sensible economic decision not to rent it out and just let it sit
And this stems from the fact that property taxes are so tiny compared to taxes on actual value generation (income, payroll, sales, etc.). Why would I run the risk of trying to turn a profit if I only get to keep half of the value I generate? Instead I'll just sit on my assets and cough up the 2% per year while it appreciates due to inflation and steadily increasing demand.

>> No.50937343

>>50937305
not to mention renters can absolutely destroy a property. you undertake a lot of risk renting.

>> No.50937379

>>50931612
That's the entire reason for their extremely left leaning ESG score system. That kind of pandering can actually delay the day of the rope by years.

>> No.50937387

>goto bed and get some sleep
>wake up
>jews still trying to jew in this thread about other people's property and their entitlements that they think people should have over it
>muh you must rent it out cuz jew logic

>> No.50937443

>>50937379
>by years.
try forever. with power of mass media and deracination they can delay the day of reckoning forever. the only final arbiter of truth is defeat by a foreign power. unironically China and Russia are the only hope for humanity. not because they're good. but because they can free the West by dismantling the West's ruling class.

>> No.50937496

>>50931848
This is the real problem

>> No.50937591

>>50937443
Nah, it will eventually come to a head when saying the right words hasn't made a difference and they all realize it was lip service alone.

>> No.50937596

>>50936902
>industrial chemicals do not break down
Yeah, just like oil. Guess what happens with them after 10000 years? That's right, it is buried under the thick layer of sediments.

>> No.50937638

>>50934158
Then Tricon residential will gladly take $1500/month from you.

>> No.50937691

>>50936972
Hate to say it.... but... New law single family homes can not be used as capital reserves after Dec 2023.
I would add. If a bank sells to a first time home buyer no corporate taxes.

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50937858

>>50929781
their impact on house prices and lack of affordable houeses is minimal. who the fuck cares if a millionaire own 2 or 5 houses, its banks and big real estate corpos (with the help of the govt) who own MILLIONS of homes and they are buying even more.

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50937893

>>50929748
In all seriousness let it accelerate. Ether NIMBY fucks off and builds more starter homes. Or we get Brazil style slums and inforced diversity in your naborhoods.

>but muh boomers
Sorry, the homeless and renters can vote and they are outgrowing home owners quickly.

>> No.50937898

>>50937596
you're retarded

>> No.50937997

>>50937691
Doesn't matter because at this point they're just sold to Fed or Blackrock.

>> No.50938100

>>50929781
>There is a reason they are usually the first to get strung up in a revolution
Yes, people are retarded. Hungry and angry people are even more retarded. Have you read history? It almost always gets way WORSE after the revolution, not better.

>> No.50938275

>>50938100
this dude is afraid he will get the rope and we will throw his kids off of high cliffs and kick his mother's head in

>> No.50938546

>>50929748
Hahahahahahahaha... eat shit fags

>my beach house is mine to use how and when I want

>> No.50938869
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50938869

your day will come landkikes

>> No.50938986

>>50929961
t. triple digit iq

>> No.50939004

>>50938869
>>50938275
if you're too poor to buy land, how are you going to organize a revolution? lmao. the rich own all the guns dogs and private security.

>> No.50939038

remove property tax for homeowning residence; double property tax for landlord properties

problem solved

>> No.50939127

>>50930383
>>50930401
>>50930458
Look at this schizo samefagging

>> No.50939176

>>50939038
I don't have a problem with this.

>> No.50939270

>>50939038
That's fucking retarded if anything most homeowners should pay more taxes.

>> No.50939469

>>5093450
You know how detroit got the way it is? The jobs went away and everyone who could afford to move did. The result is literal ruins and a city with massive poverty. The British countryside has been dying ever since the industrial revolution for basically the same reason. The only reason those "ghost towns" exist is because of the vacationers keeping the buildings up.

>> No.50939474

>>50939038
this is extremely antisemetic.

>> No.50939484

>>50930061
itd be cheaper to pay the tax or rent it out than the damage to the value of the property that demolishing would cause

>> No.50939491

>>50939270
you sound like a kik

>> No.50939498

>>50939038
Don't you pay tax on the rent and the land lord tax on the profit.

>> No.50939607

>>50939498
Either way being a owner occupant will be cheaper than being a renter.

>> No.50939678

>>50939004
>private secutiry lol
>guns lol
when we will outnumber them 8-10 to 1 they will start running like usain bolt and hide in the gutter like saddam hussein.

>> No.50939730

>>50936739
That's a failure of government, not of the free market. How would you bribe a politician if there were no politicians, dumb faggot.

>> No.50939826

I have a second home. When I bought it, it was a run down shit hole. Now that I've fixed it up and I rent it out, I'm having the same problems as in OPS picture. These ''locals'' had the chance the buy this property too, it was fucking dirt cheap, especially for the nice coastal area it's in. But I'm guessing that sounds like to much hard work for commie fucking millennial faggots. ngmi

>> No.50939914

>>50939678
>we will outnumber them 8-1
more like 10000-1. if people really got angry they could drown these fuckers by running up to them naked and pissing on them

>> No.50939942

Unironically they need to set up a flat 100% tax on any profits made selling or renting out a property. Once houses stop being an investment mechanism and start just being houses again their price will actually start reflecting their value.

Honestly most of the modern world's woes are caused by things that provide passive income. Having money not just being a thing to track and manage worth but also being a means to make more money just results in the current situation, where an ever larger share of the money is being hovered up by people looking to make more money. I know having a passive income is probably the ultimate goal for everyone here but any fool can see it's eventually going to reach a point where you have not enough people doing actual work and too many trying to live off of a slice of their efforts.

>> No.50939962

>>50929748
If you can't protect it, you can't own it. Simple as.

>> No.50940127

>>50939942
The ultimate goal is to make capital do all the work via AI and cull the retards masses.

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50940216

>>50929979
>He thinks the bureaucrats who keep housing supply artificially limited and the cartels of speculators who own it are under separate management
top zozzle

>> No.50940424

>>50936268
Great location attracting tourists, many are wealthy enough to buy up all properties and gentrify it so that the locals who work for and rely on tourism industry can't afford to live anywhere near their workplace and in many cases their hometowns.
In US I read Aspen has similar issue.

>> No.50940482

>>50939730
Landlords would defend against any attempt to implement an ancap society, or a true libertarian state, therefore landlords get the rope.

>> No.50940537

>>50929781
Go to your local Walmart, take count of the staff, and tell me if even 5% of them are in any physical capability of fighting in an organized “revolution”. Because them, along with any other minimum-wage peripheral workforce, are the only “proletariat” spiritually viable of enacting such a fantastical scenario.
This isn’t the 20’s or some Woody Guthrie song, the “working class” leftoids love to tout as being invaluable to society overwhelmingly vote republican, and probably watch Fixer Upper with their wives when on leave from their Rigging jobs.
Having extreme political views in America is literally on par with being a superfan for a football team: you think you’re making a difference, but you actually look stupid and obsessed to average people (and are just lining someone’s pocket in the process).
The United States was built to be a money/value machine, the political “dichotomy” just proves that. People who believe anything otherwise and haven’t taken advantage of what this country offers are just literal goys.

>> No.50940574

>>50936972
Your premise was wrong and it just got worse from there. My vacation home is not bank owned. It’s paid off. I hold the title. Homeless fags can seeth. I’m not renting it out.

>> No.50940648

>>50929986
this anon is kinda right

life is a game in which money is the points you collect, you get no money means you suck at the game, there is no virtue in studying some shit if it doesn't make you money etc, get that money, play the game

>> No.50940711

>>50934095
autonomous lethal force weapons are internationally banned, even auto-aim sentry guns and drones the military has need operators to approve the kill

>> No.50940842

>>50934095
It was illegal before the technology even existed to do it. Boobytraps as home-defense methods have been outlawed at common law for centuries and the principle carried over into statutory criminal law. It's literally just murder.

>> No.50940925

>>50936504
I am not high on the socioeconomic ladder, I simply understand what a dollar represents.
>idc what we call the next system but I know it shouldnt be like the one we have now.
if you opened and stayed with that, you could rally a lot more support than dipping into any of the typical memes. I don't think many would disagree with that.

>> No.50940935

>>50929748
/biz/ has been infested with poorfag neet commies for years

>> No.50940974

>>50940648
peak hylic

>> No.50941031

>>50940574
My premise is right and verifiable so and your single anecdotal vacation home means nothing compared to the massive bank owned inventory sitting empty.

>> No.50943509

>>50934393
what
>>50934430
said

If I lived a thousand years ago, I would have an easier time just building a house in the wilderness than now, even though we have all this technology. But it's only used to line the pockets of mr schekelberg.

>> No.50943679

>>50939914
>>50939678
try it faggot. crowd control will wreck your shit.

>> No.50943725

>>50934095 illegal but no one could stop you. what are they going to do, visit your land?
>>50934124 kek
>>50934170 start a commmune. then.
>>50934182 the kikes and niggers riling up the smoothbrains view them as useful idiots.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/blms-patrisse-cullors-admits-using-6m-mansion-for-parties/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04/black-lives-matter-6-million-dollar-house.html
https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/black-lives-matter-spent-at-least-12-million-on-mansions/

>> No.50943740

>>50941031
put your money together with other homeless and rent it out, then. or buy one and share a home.

>> No.50943992

>>50930811
checked and true

>> No.50944348

>>50933671
You're right, the lack of local shops is a bit dull but then we can just jump in the Range Rover and drive to the nearest town which has Waitrose, Marks etc on the outskirts. The only downside is going out for drinks but there's never any police on the road so we usually just risk the drive back.
We let friends use the place too so it's normally occupied during the school hols and xmas etc. NOt sure about renting it to locals. Where would they go when we wanted to pop down?

>> No.50944398

>>50940537
based

>> No.50944402

>>50929748
>fair price
I wonder what that is in the commie minds

>> No.50944433

>>50931310
Without government we would long have all the internet infrastructure for thinking people. Now we have nothing because of its not corpos then it’s hate speech shit

>> No.50944455

>>50943740
I own several homes. I'm just explaining how the system works for benefit of thick headed illiterates like yourself. Given this is how system works you'd have to be dumb not to play the game if you can get in. Its still a total disaster for society though. Id vote Hitler in on a land reform platform if I could.

>> No.50944470

>>50929986
>If I can afford to buy up a ton of land and use it for whatever I want including sitting on it for future sales thats my choice and my business rights since I have the funds.

you landlords are like that until noveau riche chinese come in and outbid you. then you complain and lobby about foreigners buying up the land to park their ill-gotten mainland gains, despite them doing pretty much the same thing as you.

you parasitic fucks are all the same hypocrites.

>> No.50944480

>>50931554
>>50934477
Then go directly after kikes and not random people you faggosgoys

>> No.50944499

>>50929748
The problem is not owning more than 1 house, the problem is owning more than 1 house while others are struggling to afford rent.

>> No.50944506

>>50934482
Literally is retard

>> No.50944513

>>50940216
>he thinks every house owner is a kike

>> No.50944543

>>50944455
> not to play the game
How do I play without money?

>> No.50944590

>>50944470
There’s a difference in buying property in your country and foreign countries

>> No.50944645

>>50934430
>>50943509
Weird that no one has figured out the common denominator yet - population. This planet is not fit to live for 10 billion people. You can try that and end up with overpopulated polluted shit and plethora of economic issues. Go down to one billion and it’s beyond comfy

>> No.50944700

>>50936133
80% will lose their homes in three generations. replace npcs with robots instead

>> No.50944728

>>50944645
>This planet is not fit to live for 10 billion people
You're just parroting what you've heard on TV by idiots. There;s plenty of room.

>> No.50944729

>>50940842
>just murder someone who tries to break into your house
And what’s the fucking problem here bleeding heart vagina?

>> No.50944800

>>50944728
Unironically you’re the one parroting a dumb view that doesn’t take into consideration how much area on Earth is devoted to farming. Also, if we increase the population further there’s gonna be humans squeezed into every corner of the planet. We already live more concentrated than is healthy for the human psyche.

>> No.50944853

>>50944645
>This planet is not fit to live for 10 billion people
Under the current socio-economic regime, no. different system are possible

>> No.50945084

>>50944590
>There’s a difference in buying property in your country and foreign countries

what exactly is the difference between an opportunistic "citizen" landlord and a foreigner buying land/housing supply purely as investment commodities? the effect is the same, lower income demographic (both citizens, green cards AND illegal immigrants) get priced out. except with foreigners, lower income "landlords" also get priced, and that's when they start bitching and moaning about protecting the house-owning democracy which should have been their right to sell out. fuck them for ruining things for people and fuck you for being a stupid cunt.

>> No.50945423

>>50930927
Yup. Communal areas always stink of piss and every hall looks like a prison block because that's basically what it is.

>> No.50946541

>>50929748
Having three or more houses isn't unreasonable and really not impossible. Especially with the huge range in American prices depending on where you go.
>main home
>vacation home near mountains/lake or beach
>home for your kids to live once they're old enough
People are just mad their boomer parents never did it for them or they're too dense to see how they could do it.
If someone or an LLC owns more than 15 or 20 livable residential properties, then maybe it'd be good to have some special option for renters to buy the home if they've rented there for 3 years.
But it shouldn't be a compulsory sale. Maybe a special tax credit or deduction based on the value of the house they sell. Could also be dependent if they made upgrades in the last 5 years to keep money flowing in the local economy.
It should be mutually beneficial to the seller, renter, and local businesses.
I just pulled that out of my ass, but it's 100 times better than what hipster left fags bring up.
Libs are too stupid to think of anything solution that would actually make it appealing for an owner to sell property well helping incentivize local biz.
>>50929979
The red tape and time it takes to get anything done in cities is horrible. I know this from experience. There are things that can be done that doesn't sacrifice safety of buildings.
Expedite the bureaucracy and that alone would help a lot.
>>50931234
>quadruple tax any home that isn't your main dwelling
>especially commercial property
Don't bring childish reasoning into the real world. Your plan would make it harder for parents to help their kids get established.
Also
>implying every state has property taxes
Did you even think before you said this? lmao if you mean well and this isn't a troll, just think of the follow:
Imagine what the average home costs in maintenance alone on 5 year average—without quadruple taxing. Now look at the housing market in Texas and imagine quadruple taxing second homes with Texas property taxes right now.

>> No.50947044

>>50930152
I actually do this with Turo. It has worked out okay so far.