/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.50824452]

>Sell something for $660
>Have to pay over $110 in fees
>Funds on hold until I hand over my social security number because the IRS requires it for sales over $600 even though I'm only getting $550
>They are still holding my money after two weeks to 'verify my information'
Incredible, fuck ebay man.

[Anonymous No.50824567]

>>50824452
The new ebay sucks since they split with PayPal. Fees are ridiculously high now and don't understand how big sellers are making money since Im guessing they are passing those extra fee costs to the customer ie price increase. My buddy sold his old iPhone a few months ago on ebay. Ended up having to pay a 15% sellers fee that eBay pulls as soon as you sell you item. Then they won't release the funds to you until 2 days after the shipping tracking status shows delivered. From what I was told, pre pandemic the listings were free with zero sellers fee. Selling shit on eBay is a headache now

[Anonymous No.50824806]

>>50824452
Mind sharing where this is anon?

[Anonymous No.50824848]

we need trump back

[Anonymous No.50824887]

I feel like trying to make it now I harder than it's ever been if you're starting from nothing.

[Anonymous No.50824923]

>>50824452
I’ve had an account for 3 years with 80 positive reviews. A buyer last week bought my item. He messaged me trying to negotiate sending him more free shit with it. I politely refused. He never even paid but he still was able to leave a negative review. Now they limited me to 1 listing and are holding my money on all recent sales based on that 1 review. What a fucking joke this site is. I just wish there was a better alternative for 1 off collectible items. Amazon is only good for mass goods and Mercari is still too small.

[Anonymous No.50825009]

>>50824452
You vil own nozzing und you vil be happy

[Anonymous No.50825202]

>>50824452
>2022
>selling on fleabay
you get what you fucking deserve

[Anonymous No.50825431]

Ebay sucks now.

[Anonymous No.50825460]

>>50824923
I've bought some collectables and shit off etsy but it was mostly just old cassette/vhs tapes, not sure how they treat sellers

[Anonymous No.50825509]

>>50824923
i had some dumb nigger leave me a neutral review because he bought something, changed his mind, requested a cancellation, and i granted it. thanks a lot, you fucking nigger retard faggot cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.50825564]

>>50824452
Definitely have to factor in all the costs you’ll incur, and at that point, risk not even selling. OfferUp and apps like that are not viable alternatives either.

[Anonymous No.50825577]

>>50825202
Nothin wrong with trying to make a couple bucks off of some old shit just lying around, anon.

[Anonymous No.50825894]

>>50824452
>He doesn't wait for the 80% off selling fees offer, or the £1 max fees offer
Not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.50826446]

You fucking Autist don't even know do you ?
You have no idea what's coming.
Imagine a selling platform that uses crypto and that crypto's seller's fee is paid out as dividends to the Token holders. Imagine mining crypto and spending it on a World Market Place where you can get goods.
>No Cuck Account
>No Cookies
>No Credit Card
>No IRS tracking you
>No Tax Man Tracking you.
V1 is online right now, I suggest trying it.
But when V2 comes online there will be an influx of Private sellers to this platform.
Its the only way to sell., I have some 20K of resell merchandise I am holding for Version 2 of this World Market Place.

Pic Related

[Anonymous No.50826819]

>>50825577
Making cash selling junk isn't the issue shit for brains. Using the worst online market to do it is. OP deserved getting ripped off for using ebay. The site is a joke on private sellers dumb enough to use it.

[Anonymous No.50826853]

>>50824452
>using ebay in 2022
holy fuck youre a retard

[Anonymous No.50826983]

Is Facebook Marketplace any better?

[Anonymous No.50827094]

>>50824452
I used to run the ecommerce department of an auto parts company that primarily went through eBay and Amazon. eBay became such a pain in the dick in 2020 that I was happy to be laid off when the place closed down because California's COVID restrictions and the owner's jewish tricks bankrupted us. We were doing a quarter million a month in sales, hundreds of packages a day. The sheer amount of niggers stealing our product and filing false claims against us made the job unmanageable. I swear half of every work day was spent on the phone with eBay trying to erase bad feedback and getting cases against us closed. This was right as they were getting ready to split from PayPal and I had accounting blowing me up everyday as well cause the numbers were off on everything.

Fuck eBay.

[Anonymous No.50827115]

>>50826819
Whats the alternative dumbass? Fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.50827175]

Sorry, it was probably because of all the fake gpu listings I made, I use to buy of eBay accounts on blackhat 400 bucks in BTC a pop ebay locked up 50k from me

SORRY CHUDS HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.50827197]

>>50827175
*OG accounts

[Anonymous No.50828031]

>>50825894
I've had these in the past but need them now. Any tips of hunting for promotions

[Anonymous No.50828080]

>>50828031
I don't know if it's any different in America or other eBay sites, but in the UK I get offers very regularly, usually every 2-4 weeks.
I've been selling on eBay for over ten years and have literally never paid the full fees. If I had to pay the full fees I wouldn't bother, because that is indeed a rip-off. But when it's just 2% of the sale price or £1, I think it's fine.
If you go to My eBay -> Account -> Communication Preferences -> Marketing Communications, you can turn on "Selling promotions" which means they'll email you whenever there's a promotion going. Otherwise, you can follow deal websites (I use HotUKDeals), or just manually check eBay to see if there's an offer available.

[Anonymous No.50828108]

>>50827115
There isn’t one. I promise you he uses it too.

[Anonymous No.50828123]

>>50828031
>>50828080
I should add that the promotions are usually account-specific. From following discussion threads on HotUKDeals, there are some people that regularly get £1 max fees offers, while others usually get 80% off, and others get 70% off, etc. I imagine it probably depends on your activity as a seller. So if you want the best offers, simply refuse to accept subar promotions, and don't list anything for sale when you don't have a promotion active.

[Anonymous No.50828350]

>>50824452
> Selling on Ebay and not on Marketplace
LMAO. Lol even.

[Anonymous No.50829267]

>>50828080
>>50828123
Thanks bro
>>50828350
I use marketplace for local things anon, but for obscure antique objects I need a global marketplace to get the price I want

[Anonymous No.50829331]

You have to sell a lot and get the eBay high account seller status (forgot the name). If you’re just Joe Schmoe selling whatever he just found in his attic, you’ll get raped. Same as irl.

[Anonymous No.50829583]

Try paypal
> Customer for 15 years, one of the first integrations in the country (Non-US)
> Received hundreds of thousands of transactions
> Millions of dollars since intgergation
> Average basket size is ~200 but often get 2000+. Rarely more than 4k, never more than 6k.
> Guy decides to order 50k of TVs using paypal
> Long time customer, usually pays bank transfer or creditcard.
> His assistant decided to use PP this time.
> Your paypal account is frozen for investigation. No withdrawals but you can still receive funds. You cannot withdraw anything even though one large transaction caused this.
> You must submit shipping information for the last three months worth of sales
> You must provide web details for all these customers
> You must provide (previously supplied) Identification documents
> etcetc
> A month after submitting this and hearing literally nothing from paypal the account is "fixed".

Fuck them

[Anonymous No.50831203]

>>50829583
Paypal is absolutely horrible, literally absolute shit. It's scary how bad they are because they have the payment data and access to so many people's money. They are so incompetent its not even funny. My new bank account wasnt accepted and nobody could fix that, I eventually just gave up and never looked back, using alternatives that are in fact much less intrusive and dont have the balls to freeze youe money or steal it.

[Anonymous No.50831275]

>>50824452
>$110 in fees
Roughly 13% total in fees is the norm (final value and managed payments processing) and it's $82.50. Is the additional $27.50 the shipping? t. ebay seller

[Anonymous No.50831314]

>>50824452
i only buy used auto parts on ebay and nothing else. ive tried selling too and almost got fucked out of $2k. its like the k-mart of websites now. wont be long before it collapses or completely restructures.

[Anonymous No.50831349]

>>50824567
>From what I was told, pre pandemic the listings were free with zero sellers fee.
I've been selling on and off there since 2015 and there was always a 10% final value fee. Free listings are still around, you can get around 300 or so without an ebay store. Sometimes ebay runs promotions that lower the final selling fee on certain categories.
>>50825509
Thank god neutrals don't impact ratings. I hate neutral feedback with a passion.
>>50828350
>dealing with local niggers and crackheads
ew
>>50829331
Pretty much this. Top Rated gives you a major boost and Top Rated Plus even lets you withhold half of a refund in case someone tries to scam you.
>>50829583
>>50831203
Paypal combined with ebay was horrible for sellers. If a buyer tried to scam a seller and the refund request is closed, they can still do it through paypal and screw the buyer.

[Anonymous No.50831451]

>>50826446
This website will probably get seized by glowies if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.50831606]

I always love these cope threads by the NEETs who are too dumb/lazy to utilize eBay as an additional source of income

[Anonymous No.50832175]

>>50824452
literally why hasnt some faggot coder from redit made an ebay competitor site? its not rocket science, just copy-past the ebay site code but charge 10% commission instead of the 20% ebay does

holy shit you coder fags are fucking retards for not wanting to be billiionaires. if none of you faggos make an ebay site i will learn to code and make one myself next month, thats it ive had it. you fucking lazy faggots

[Anonymous No.50832184]

>>50831275
It charges fees based on the total you charged plus the amount paid in sales tax by the buyer, which is really fucking retarded. You're right though, I did fuck up and include shipping, it was about $95 in fees and then shipping pushed it over $110.

[Anonymous No.50832207]

>>50824452
Ebay has been fucked since that donahue fucker fiorina'd the company.

[Anonymous No.50832246]

I had someone recently win an auction for a shirt. Doesn't pay, but doesn't respond asking if he will pay. Block him and relist it. He bids on the item with the same retarded name and changed one letter. Blocked again and the next auction goes for less money. Fags will be fags

[Anonymous No.50832254]

>>50824923
I sold used ASICs to people and one dude bitched about his. I stated in the listing the hashrate to expect and that 1 of the hashboards would/could be bad per device. One buyer predictably complained about not having a perfect device (1 hashboard was dead). I gave them a new hashboard just to get a positive rating and eBay did the same shit. Held all my money for 90 days despite tracking (through their program) showing everything delivered and feedback being received. I missed out on re-investing in Kadena at $0.30 before it went to $22 because of lack of funds (they were holding around $7k total of my money). I never got a reason why, and they later suspended my account permanently. Fuck eBay, I hope those Jews die.

I've had much better experiences on Mercari. Fees are still high, but not as bad as eBay, and when a buyer tried to screw me on a purchase he didn't win by default with no explanation given.

[Anonymous No.50832307]

>>50832175
It not a problem of code or infrastructure. It's the network effect. As a seller, I know I'll make more money on eBay vs competing sites. For example, I could sell a gtx 1080ti for $350 on eBay awhile back but might only get $280 on Mercari for one because less people use Mercari. So despite the lower fees on Mercari I still earn less. And for obscure items there might not be any buyers. The situation seems to be improving but that's the problem I've noticed.

[Anonymous No.50832432]

>>50832184
Oh yeah I forgot they did that to the sales tax, that's greedy.

[Antique Dealer No.50832457]

>>50832307
Antique Dealer here- eBay is still the main go to for many collectables and will be for some time despite its many problems, which I also have been through during their various policy changes.

Facebook market place has taken a lot of the lower end items though as its easier than ever for normal people to offload them online. Etsy has taken a part as well, not sure how it will be in 10+ years as I know many people left in the last 3 years.Not sure what a possible solution would be.

[Anonymous No.50832798]

>>50831451
Anything that uses its own token is just a sad scam.

[Anonymous No.50833239]

>>50828108
I do not use fleabay you meatheaded implying fuckwit.
>>50827115
Selling locally for cash obviously. Did this really need to be explained to you? Are you clinically retarded?

[Anonymous No.50833315]

>>50827115
Alternative: not being a poor nigger who needs to sell trash for scraps

[Anonymous No.50833336]

>>50824452
This isn't eBay, this is America. Every website is the same

[Anonymous No.50833407]

>>50831349
>Paypal combined with ebay was horrible for sellers. If a buyer tried to scam a seller and the refund request is closed, they can still do it through paypal and screw the buyer.
Paypal is no longer combined with ebay in the way it was. As a seller you get paid out after sales in bulk, no longer get access to the individual transactions etc. Its a total shit show.
>>50831203
My personal account had issues at one point and I told them to get fucked and it started working for no reason a week later. Totally bizarre.

[Anonymous No.50833652]

>>50832457
Based fellow dealer anon
We are stuck with the devil we know..

[Anonymous No.50833775]

>>50824452
Do you lose like 20-40% of your profit as income as well?

[Anonymous No.50833806]

>>50829267
Yeah its worth it for obscure too bad ebay sucks though. I miss the pre 2005 days.

[Anonymous No.50833807]

Timely thread - Fuck eBay
I just started selling again after a hiatus and am shocked at the bullshit now you have to go through & the fee increases - blown away that they can hold your money at their own whim - fucking bullshit

[Anonymous No.50833814]

>>50824452
nice blogpost anon. 2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.50833819]

>>50824452
eBay constantly do offers where you only pay $1 in fees. Just wait for that. Not hard.

[Anonymous No.50834245]

>>50824452
>>50824567
It's not just the fees but how difficult they've made it to use, I went back to it after a few years and couldn't believe how shit it had gotten. The only logical explanation is that it is being run into the ground on purpose

[Anonymous No.50834268]

>>50826446
When does version 2 come out???

[Anonymous No.50834312]

>>50834245
It got bought by a woman

[Anonymous No.50834641]

i'm glad i scammed ebay and paypal for 50.000 with different fake accounts

i got my revenge after some thief used my credit card to spend 30$ and paypal refused to refund the money after i complained i didn't make the purchase, also they suspended and banned my acount for life

I was able to buy nice things and invenst in my future


feels good man

fuck kikes

[Anonymous No.50834663]

Yep, it's a shit show. I just keep everything now, it's not worth the pain.

[Anonymous No.50834788]

>>50824567
>pre pandemic the listings were free with zero sellers fee
kek this isn't true ive been selling stuff on ebay for years it has been 15% for forever, also they dont lock your funds at all once youve sold a certain amount of things, the 15% is cancer though. I think you can get around the paypal fees by doing the payments directly through ebay now also

[Anonymous No.50834802]

>>50834268
You're not gonna grow nothing on the old Simpson place

[Anonymous No.50834830]

Glad I sold all my junk around my house before eBay became too pozzed.
Still had all sorts of niggers scam me though.
Ruined some guys granddaughters birthday apparently because item didn't turn up and he wanted a refund plus compensation on top lololol

[Anonymous No.50834837]

>>50824452
cryptobay projects were there in 2017 but not enough people want to use it yet.