Monero and Bitcoin chad unification - Thread.

[Anonymous No.50745209]

They will not divide us

[Anonymous No.50745286]

>>50745209
Qrd?

[Anonymous No.50745290]

How is this supposed to be happening?

[Anonymous No.50745322]

>>50745209
how are atomic swaps coming along?
I haven't heard much about them lately.
I know the beta for it was released last year.
Do people like it, use it?

[Anonymous No.50745346]

>>50745209
based
so here is the unification plan, you sell the useless btc and you buy & use xmr instead

[Anonymous No.50745410]

>>50745322
XMR needed BTC to implement taproot to really make atomic swaps viable. last i heard was haveno dex was under construction for defi on XMR pairs.

[Anonymous No.50745438]

>>50745346
Not at all, we just use both..
Monero for transactions and bitcoin for long term storage and safe heaven..
Simple as..

[Anonymous No.50745452]

>>50745410
ah cool. I guess it's coming along then.
I definitley want to try it out in the future.

[Anonymous No.50745465]

Bitcoin maxi here

I think Monero-chan is a pretty cool girl

She hides transactions and doesn't afraid of anything

[Anonymous No.50746472]

>>50745209
I own both, both have their uses. Hate when Bitcoin or Monero maxis shit on each other, given shit like PoS is the greater threat.

[Anonymous No.50746523]

Anyone have the pic of the chick in the monero outfit?

[Anonymous No.50746563]

>>50746523
Monerochan.art

[Anonymous No.50746731]

>>50746472
This and only this
I suspect that there's some jew on the crypto market trying to create this divide and conquer "crypto battle"..

[Anonymous No.50746740]

>>50745410
Haveno devs basically exit scammed. Serai DEX is the new hotness.

[Anonymous No.50746833]

Why would you swap back to something inferior? That’s just greater fool theory; a bubble

[Anonymous No.50746943]

>>50746833
Sometimes I like to buy things from vendors that don't take XMR. Many of them take BTC. I believe that makes them the greater fool.

[Anonymous No.50746952]

>>50745438
Please, close you door when you pooping wagie number 1984

[Anonymous No.50746958]

>>50745438
>useless
>safe heaven
kek

[Anonymous No.50746970]

>>50746958
Do you understand that bitcoin has it's very much upside positive functions that monero itself lacks, Right?

[Anonymous No.50747000]

>>50745410
didn't they activate taproot in November?

[Anonymous No.50747102]

>>50747000
Checked.

[Anonymous No.50748243]

>>50745209
what wallet do people use to hold / buy monero?

[Anonymous No.50749011]

>>50746970
Name 1 besides the size of the network being larger than monero.

[Anonymous No.50749054]

>>50749011
monero's main flaw is precisely it's anonymity.
there are uses of money that are impossible to go forward if the economy is a black box.
question yourself: do you want politicians to have a black box wallet?

[Anonymous No.50749061]

monero still scrambling to maintain relevance it seems

[Anonymous No.50749134]

>>50745346
there's no point in hodling xmr, just swap it when you need to purchase something

[Anonymous No.50750082]

>>50749054
they already have. there is no way to verify how much anyone in a high position owns. Laws concerning this are meaningless, because they are not lawful people anyway

[Anonymous No.50750117]

>Use BTC to swing trade for more XMR
>Sell bonus XMR for WOW
>Wait for wow pump
>Sell wow for more XMR
>Wait for wow to bottom
>repeat process

Am I using these coins correctly?

[Anonymous No.50750133]

>>50749054
>>50750082
this

[Anonymous No.50750573]

>>50750082
>>50750133
> it's already slightly shit, let's make it completely shit
you're stupid; there is currently a lot of transparency; if you give "the jews" you so fear even more power to be anonymous: they will fuck you even more in the butt

[Anonymous No.50750668]

>>50750573
not at all, just gotta be 3 IQ digits and you will be able to use bitcoin anonymously, Many ways around this. Could even use monero for god's sake.
Also the "surface" markets are accepting bitcoin exclusively and none of them accept monero, besides that whore girl called "bellie dolphine"..
So I see the bright of both sides, and In the future I can even see bitcoin improving to become more private on second layer, besides that I think bitcoin is the top tier currency unit along side with monero.
No need to fight and claim one to be better than the other, why not use both depending on the situation you're requesting.

[Anonymous No.50750695]

Not falling for your tricks xmr tards. You were seething 24/7 about bitcoin and now you try to act like nothing happend. Kek baggies.

[Anonymous No.50750853]

>>50750695
Bitcoin maxi here and you're being stupid my brother.
Think about this
Every shitcoin and their dog have had it's 1000x pump and they are completely useless shitcoins.
Why not give it one opportunity for monero to raise once in an lifetime too? at least it's not a shitcoin and it may actually bring awareness on bitcoin's community saying: Privacy is actually very important.
Same thing happened to litecoin back when bitcoin was super clogged and "slow" and look where bitcoin is at, it have the fasted transaction feature ever seen (LN)..
So, think about it..

[Anonymous No.50750906]

>>50749054
I'd argue that the economy has to be a black box so politicians can stop fucking with the money supply. Bitcoin proved that immutability isn't enough

[Anonymous No.50750957]

>>50750853
LN was a flop, even core devs admit it now.
Luke Smith destroyed btc maxis in his latest interview with crypto vigilante:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF2wfLDI7-4

[Anonymous No.50750969]

>>50750957
How is it a flop when it simply works? it truly does, ever used LN before?

[Anonymous No.50751017]

>>50745209
XMR doesn't need Bitcoin though.
Bitcoin needs Monero for privacy.

[Anonymous No.50751140]

>>50751017
It's not about needing, its about accepting.

[Anonymous No.50751148]

Tockens not needed. Please invest in WoWnero (ticket: WOW). Moon soon! Good day for you, sirs.

[Anonymous No.50751159]

>b-bitcoin has uses too!
cope

[Anonymous No.50751403]

>>50746731
>I suspect that there's some jew on the crypto market trying to create this divide and conquer "crypto battle"
I don't think Michael Saylor or Jimmy Song are jewish.

[Anonymous No.50751912]

>>50749054
Monero is optionally transparent. It is not a flaw, it is by design. Or you wouldn't have fungibility like bitcoin.

>>50750668
>you will be able to use bitcoin anonymously
No, you cannot. It will never be private because it isn't at the protocol level. Typical btc maxi with retarded takes.
Monero is simply better in every facet, due to this the increase in adoption is undeniable. Bitcoin will die in irrelevancy because it's not sustainable as it is. It is a failed experiment.

You saying unification or reconciliation, means it's the last resort of a bitcoin maxi to stay relevant. You're trying to hold on to something doesn't want to improve at the core level. It is like a relationship with a girl that you believe you can change, but deep down you know that you cannot. She doesn't want fixing, you need to let go and move on.

[Anonymous No.50752224]

>>50750969
It is a flop. Over half of all LN's capacity is now controlled by a total of 5 entities (~2,260 btc).
One of the key concerns with a network like Lightning is that it becomes more and more centralized over time, not less (unlike L1).
They have visibility into all those UTXOs and all payments through them, but they don't hold the keys for all the Bitcoin of course.

Truly the best surveillance system.

[Anonymous No.50752336]

>>50751912
Nobody cares about your criminal chuck-e-cheese token nigger. Bitcoin is the standard. Cope Seethe Dilate Burn in envy for 120+ years as Bitcoin progressively eats up the world.

[Anonymous No.50752410]

>>50752336

Good argumentation, sir. I see you love you bitcoin sacred cow.

[Anonymous No.50752455]

>>50752410
Thanks. yes.

[Anonymous No.50752504]

>>50749134
I WILL HOLD XMR
I WILL BUY XMR
I WILL USE XMR
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.50752512]

>>50752336
>Bitcoin is the standard
...except on the dark net.

[Anonymous No.50752549]

>>50752455

May Vishnu bless you.

[Anonymous No.50752651]

Come on everybody, Bitcoin and Monero is alright, no need to fight.. It leads us nowhere, and you know that..
Both have good and bad sides, gotta be smart and not emotional, sissy pussies.

[Anonymous No.50752666]

>>50752336
>Bitcoin is the standard.
The standard of financial surveillance lmao
Your religiosity is cope by the fact that btc's being replaced by the sound digital money that is Monero. Bitcoin will never reach its supply cap, it'll be severely unprofitable before that.

>>50749134
Yeah bro, just lose money on fees and swaps because (of dumb) reasons.

[Anonymous No.50752758]

>>50752666
Bitcoin seems to be the standard though, It's the top 1 marketcap cryptocurrency out there and the reason for that is because trust their money on it more than Monero.

That's why monero's price has been 3 digits for over 7 years now.

As I said, no need to fight, if we truly want to win against the bankers we need to unite as a unstoppable team and not fight each other like retards going nowhere.

[Anonymous No.50752766]

>>50752512
>>50752666
Holy shit NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE DARKNET.
Literally only criminal, 6-months-life-span darknet markets care about monero.
Bitcoin secures trillions of dollars of value every year.

[Anonymous No.50752795]

>>50752766
True, let alone that in the surface everybody and website accept bitcoin exclusively some even accept lightning network.
There's none on the surface that accepts monero.
So we could put in perspective that bitcoin is still wildly used as a payment method + all the other things we know..

[Anonymous No.50752874]

>>50752766
>Holy shit NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE DARKNET.
Funny, they were saying the same thing about Bitcoin 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.50753044]

>>50752874
The darknet isn't the reason bitcoin is at 20k right now..
Maybe it was the reason it got to 3 digits in the first place, but that's about it.. if it were to stick ONLY to the darknet then it would've been to this day at 3 digits price, glad we moved to something else and further.

[Anonymous No.50753332]

>>50753044
Yeah no fucking shit.
It's called buying low. We are seeing Bitcoin being displaced in an economy it has ruled for over a decade. If you don't expect this to happen in other areas of use case you are retarded and don't understand trends.
We are already seeing transaction growth vs Bitcoin in regular markets and this will continue because of Moneros superior baselayer which guarantees low fees.

[Anonymous No.50753418]

>>50753332
Most of those transaction growth statistic are all bullshit some even fake their numbers with flood transactions, it doesn't matter.
Bitcoin has lower fees than monero and is faster too.
So monero will displace bitcoin? when? 7 more years? I will be waiting, the great flipping you guys.

[Anonymous No.50753440]

>>50745209
Or just buy and use LTC, skip the middle man and stop paying fees.

[Anonymous No.50753458]

>>50753440
The shitcoiners have arrived.

[Anonymous No.50753550]

>>50752766
>Holy shit NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE DARKNET.

See, the problem is that as the frontline in the war of Surveillence State vs Privacy Tech the darknet has considerable influence on setting best practices standards for general OPSEC-critical applications, people with their freedom on the line speak with a lot more authority than those with less to lose.

So the darknet's endorsement of Monero over Bitcoin will have far-reaching consequences in the near-future as privacy and fungibility become evermore critical in light of the Surveillence State's increasingly onerous regulations. See Canadian Truckers Bitcoin fiasco.


TL;DR: Bitcoin will keep losing real-world market share to Monero well-beyond the darknet as legalities and blacklisting make using/holding non-fungible coins the riskier proposition.

[Anonymous No.50753801]

>>50753418
>So monero will displace bitcoin? when? 7 more years? I will be waiting, the great flipping you guys.

The flippening of Bitcoin on the darknet started just 18 months ago and its already lost roughly half its market dominance.

So its reasonable to assume BTC will be completely dead on the darknet within the next 18 months or so, probably less now that the launch rate of Monero-only markets has started to snowball, literally 4 in just the past month.

Meantime, word will spread far and wide that Almighty BTC is getting its ass kicked by an up-and.coming alt-coin, some normies will start getting the crazy idea that Monero is on its way to becoming the next Bitcoin and FOMO in like crazy to get in early, causing the price to spike which will draw in the next wave of FOMOsexuals and spike the price even higher, rinse & repeat to the point people start selling their BTC to get in on the action and voila, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and there's your flippening.

[Anonymous No.50753892]

>>50753418
>Bitcoin has lower fees and is faster
Literally objectively wrong
>fake their numbers
We have metrics from websites such as coincards that show Monero is used more than Bitcoin
>So monero will displace bitcoin?
Retard, it is already starting to happen. We are seeing that with the dark net.

[Anonymous No.50754126]

BTC style transparent ledger has auditability and can be used as a source of truth for other systems.
For example high bandwidth low latency PoS systems can push merkle roots to the btc ledger periodically to prevent nothing-at-stake style chain reorgs. Very inconvenient for basic use as a medium of wealth, though.

XMR is fantastic at what it does but cannot scale, no payment channels means negative utility for wider adoption; the more people that use it the worse the UX, which is the opposite of what you want.

People are gonna rage at me for this but it's all true. Both XMR and BTC need L2 style solutions to work as intended, as a world scale payment network and distributed ledger of record.

[Anonymous No.50754305]

>>50750906
>>50751912
Transparency is a crucial ingredient of any sane civilization. Only desperate bagholders pretend it's otherwise; it's like saying closed source is great; or saying your government can hide everything from you.

Also using view keys is nothing; a criminal politician could just send to another black box; then poof: his money is gone again.

Philosophically: it's satanic to want information to be a black box; the satanic pentagram symbolized knowledge trapped in a circle; it's why positive religions always symbolized knowledge projected to the world as the sun's rays projecting outwards.

[Anonymous No.50754381]

>>50754305
Okay cool post a picture of yourself holding a government issued photo ID and a timestamp

What? It's just transparency bro.

[Anonymous No.50754432]

>>50747000
yes. the haveno exit was news to me, but work looks like its still going. if it is a bisq-esque executable I'd stay far from it. hopefully serai will work.

[Anonymous No.50754495]

>>50749054
>question yourself: do you want politicians to have a black box wallet?

Yes. Especially since currently ONLY politicians have those. Monero is just simply giving power back to the people. Every should have freedom of finances.

The patriots act was pased on a flase flag and an unrightful war.

[Anonymous No.50754500]

>>50745438
if everyone stop using bitcoin and just hodl its going to die

[Anonymous No.50754515]

>>50752758
>the reason for that is because trust their money on it more than Monero.
There's multiple reasons as to why it's the first in market cap, not just that one.
>That's why monero's price has been 3 digits for over 7 years now.
Because it's not an investment like bitcoin turned to. Therefore it's much more stable and a store of value, since that's an inherent property of money.
>if we truly want to win against the bankers we need to unite as a unstoppable team
How the fuck are you going to win the war with bankers if you already lost before even attempting to win. All of Bitcoin is public, everyone and see everyone else's finances. Btc is less private than banks lmao. You already lost the war without even fighting.

>>50752766
Bitcoin's popularity started with the darknet. It has been replaced by the superior choice in those markets.
You're an utter fool.

[Anonymous No.50754520]

>>50754381
>>50754495
The gist is: if I want to govern your country because I'm supposedly better than you, I can't have a wallet that is totally a black box.

The meme of your culture is that you supposedly take power away from "the jews"; you think "the jews" have power now; wait till you give them an 100% airtight way to work in the shadows and therefore make the conspiracy theories actually become true.

[Anonymous No.50754643]

>>50754520
You're advocating a position. Show us your face, why are you anonymous?

You just said transparency is literally a religious good, and working from the shadows evil.

Admit you're a retard and a shill, or actually live by the principle you just professed and show us your face.

[Anonymous No.50754651]

>>50754305
Private, anonymous currency = no taxation
This reduces the governmental role & control and puts it onto its people. How can you tax people if you don't even know how much money they have in the first place?
The people demand transparency or the governmental funding is ended, simple as. Because that same funding is from the people's choice, not an obligation or you'll be arrested.

[Anonymous No.50755460]

I'm typically a fan of diplomacy and cooperation but quite frankly I do not want Bitcoin, its team, the massive, greedy corporations that have sprung up around it and have intentionally crippled the protocols development over the past several years (so they could sell people a solution), or its moonboys to come anywhere close to Monero.

There is yet liquidity to jump ship, take that opportunity while it lasts because we're all self-custody. Exchanges can only lie about their books for *so* long.

[Anonymous No.50755486]

BTC hate is bad for XMR imo, Monerochads need to take the high road and respect the first Cryptocurrency.

[Anonymous No.50756989]

>>50750668
the absolute state of maxi cope.