CSGO Case Investing

[Anonymous No.50450373]

Considering that crypto is pretty much the same thing, might as well talk about it here.
Case investing is business and finance related (yes, it is.) What cases are you investing on? Are you even into case investing? What are your projections for the coming years?

I personally started piling up on this bad boy. People say the skins and the knives on this case suck with the exception of the Asiimov but someone bought ~2MM cases of these and moved the market a cent, not to mention that supply can't keep up with demand. The 12c barrier lost around 10k offers and the 11c floor started growing like crazy. You'd be a fool not to throw at least ten bucks on these.

[Anonymous No.50450692]

bump

[Anonymous No.50450790]

>>50450692
Well, since we're the only ones so far, which cases are you invested in fren?

[Anonymous No.50450833]

Bought 35000 different cases for $0.01-0.03 each years ago. Haven't sold any, might for steam deck. Easy 10x-30x so far depending on the case

[Anonymous No.50450897]

>>50450373
Don't invest in cases wtf, it's value is always capped by the content because availability gets too high each new case released. It's only worth investing in old cases like Brave cause that one is not dropping again.

What you want is to invest in skins. I bought Midnight Storm deagle for 0.34 and it's worth almost 8 within 15 months or so.

[Anonymous No.50451051]

>>50450373
Every month I sell off some old inventory and load up on as many of the cheapest cases as I can. Then I sit on them for a few years and sell off small amounts to keep rotating through my inventory. I've been doing this since 2012 and my inventory is so built up I never have to put money into steam to purchase games. I could sell everything off and cash out a few grand but I'm just using it as a way to get free games for now. I might sell it off some day.

If you want to do the same, buy $10 worth of the cheapest cases each month over the span of the next two years. Then sell a few cases from the first batch you purchased to make your next buy on month 25 without putting anymore initial in. Keep repeating the cycle and your money and inventory will grow exponentially over they years. Some cases will skyrocket in value while others only go up 2x-3x in value. I have yet to see a case that has dropped in price after holding it for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.50451082]

>>50450897
>It's only worth investing in old cases like Brave cause that one is not dropping again.
If you really believe this, please ask someone in your family to administer your finances because you're one step away from fucking your life up.
What you just said is the complete opposite. You don't want to invest on cases like Bravo because the ROI is not there anymore. Why would I go and spend like, 40 USD on one case when I can buy 400 of these 10c cases and hope they go up as they get discontinued and moved to the rare pool?

Only exception perhaps being Breakout maybe but unless you're willing to burn the amount of money necessary to make a life changing profit, it's already a tad too late. And if you have that amount of money, you'd be investing on something else like crypto, metals, stocks or real estate.

Contrary to popular belief, cases don't stop being dropped forever, but rather, they're moved to what the community call the "Rare Drop Pool." This is where decommissioned cases go in order to give way to new cases in the Prime Drop Pool. Cases and capsules from the Rare Drop are given to players in a chance as little as 1%. The Danger Zone Case was moved to this pool back in January.

[Anonymous No.50451084]

>>50450373
>Considering that crypto is pretty much the same thing, might as well talk about it here.

I agree with you, but only to the extent that "investing" in either is simply putting up your own capital for street cred amongst a group of teenagers while money launderers use you as cover. Nothing of value is ever created with either asset and the end game is a complete loss.

[Anonymous No.50451164]

>>50451084
Money is money, at the end of the day. If we have to be moralistic about it, we'll be talking about how Capitalism is evil on Twitter through our refurbished iPhones under the highway in Cali.
As long as someone is willing to shell out more money for my bags and cases, I won't complain.

[Anonymous No.50451182]

>>50450833
Nice. Hold on to those cases until you see it fit. No case will ever go to those prices ever again now that the Chinese are into this game as well.

[Anonymous No.50451254]

>>50451082
What I meant was investing in Brave long time ago. I don't invest in CS market at all, but I've had bigger gains in skins. All I see is that cases keep dropping prices since the date they are released. But you are right, my life is already fucked up.

[Anonymous No.50451266]

I only trade up to covert items, last one I got an AK-47 Bloodsport with min wear, worth about 70-80 so can't complain, think I put in about 10-15 bucks for it.

[Anonymous No.50451287]

>had thousands of breakout cases that I sold for 5 cents each
>tfw I learn the case did a 100x and could've been made for life today
>instead waging my soul away flipping burgers
I want to go postal

[Anonymous No.50451367]

>>50451254
I really doubt anyone actually made it hoarding Bravo cases today. Back then the investing scene just didn't exist with the exception of skins and the Trade Up casino. It didn't extent its reach to cases until Perfect World rolled around. Also, the dropping system was very different and extremely more generous than it is today and the concept of discontinued cases wasn't a thought on anyone's minds.

But I know there has to be a very few percentage who did this probably. For those very few out there who were ahead of their time, I tip my hat off to them.

[Anonymous No.50451372]

>>50450897
Russian people were jokingly shilling many years ago to invest in DC hook from dota. It was a famous meme. It was around 20 bucks at that time. Now its 160 lmao

[Anonymous No.50451442]

>putting money into steam
pretty fun
>pulling money out of steam
good luck

[Anonymous No.50451493]

>>50451442
You can sell cases on third party markets like BitSkins, you know.

[Anonymous No.50451515]

>>50451493
can they hold my bitcoin keys for me too?

[Anonymous No.50451584]

>>50451515
Compared to things like Celsius which promise fairy tale yields, the services who survived Valve's purge are legitimate sites.

[Anonymous No.50451661]

>>50451584
Yep, opskins got fucked because of their nft bullshit and making their own coins

[Anonymous No.50453278]

>>50451442
>he thinks big whales trade on the steam market
lol
lmao even

bump btw pretty sad that /biz/ is not exploiting this pretty much untapped market in their favor. been stacking breakout and glove cases like silly. comfy days ahead

[Anonymous No.50453717]

>>50451051
but selling them in large quantities is cumbersome. for every sold case you get also a spam mail from steam.

[Anonymous No.50453746]

This shit is dead why even bother, just go buy NFTs if you want to trade items.

[Anonymous No.50453839]

I have a friend that started with 8cent skins and ended up with a few knives and gloves.

[Anonymous No.50453909]

>>50453746
Not buying your jpegs, rajesh.
CSGO skins are unironically more useful than NFTs. At least you can use them and look at them in game.

[Anonymous No.50453950]

>>50453717
if you're working with large quantities it's always better to sell them privately for a price averagely better than market price.
everyone wins. market isn't bothered. you get the money. some other idiot gets the items.

[Anonymous No.50454014]

Now, how about this bad boy. So many questions.

Will it be the new Glove case? Or is it destined to be eclipsed by a new case with the same gloves and fade into obscurity? The Red's aren't that good - MP7 Bloodsport, are ya bloody kidding me?

That's the what, how about the when? It seems destined to be in the active drop pool for eternity. Will it even drop in price any more at this point? It seems to increase in price no matter what, despite its extreme age compared to every other case in the active drop pool. Stock up now, when it hits rare, or not at all? Is it too expensive already to make ludicrous gains on a risk/reward level?

Fuckin' clutch cases man.

[Anonymous No.50454157]

>>50454014
I'm pretty sure Valve knows that the value of the Clutch Case is solely because of the glove skins that can drop, which are unique to this case. Most surely they want a repeat of the Breakout and keep them secluded to this case exclusively.

I personally haven't seen a Clutch Case in ages dropped on servers. The ones I see dropped the most now are Dreams & Nightmares after Recoil went live and Fracture cases. This could explain why this case is able to hold such price tag. It's in the active drop pool, just not as high a chance to obtain it as the other two.

I would reckon that this case is the next to go once the next case/operation goes live, whichever comes first. If the Danger Zone Case managed to get into the rare pool, it's not a matter of if, but when at this point.

[Anonymous No.50454492]

>>50454157
>The ones I see dropped the most now are Dreams & Nightmares after Recoil went live and Fracture cases. This could explain why this case is able to hold such price tag. It's in the active drop pool, just not as high a chance to obtain it as the other two.

This is actually an interesting point, because as far as anybody is aware, there is not any difference between the drop rates in the active drop pool. So, technically, the odds should be roughly 19.8% each for the 5 active cases, leaving 1% for the chance of a rare drop. But anecdotally it does seem that the latest case seems harder to get from drops, which would also explain the inflated price they generally hold. I dunno how Clutch case fits into all of this, but if what you say is proven true and it does indeed have a lower drop chance, then that would go some way to explaining its relatively high price to age/supply ratio.

>I would reckon that this case is the next to go once the next case/operation goes live, whichever comes first.

Everyone keeps saying this and every time they rotate out one of the cheaper, newer cases. Clutch has been in the pool since Feb 2018, which is approaching 4 and a half years ago.

Every time they rotate out the current cheapest case, last time it was Prisma 2 and this time, if the theory is correct, the next to go will be the Fracture case.

[Anonymous No.50454598]

>>50450373
I bought €400 worth of prisma cases at 0.10, danger zone was the other option I was considering

[Anonymous No.50454663]

>>50450373
cs:go skins are only good for money laundering. I used to collect and trade skins because I was bored and love the game, then when cs:go became available to china, my modest skin collection rose to around $150k, something like this will never happen again. It's better to invest in crypto, it's a waste of time and money, but if you like the look of skins go ahead

[Anonymous No.50454691]

>>50454598
Well here are the latest case opening statistics for June 2022, I'm sorry to say Prisma probably wasn't the best option but it will still likely make some money for you.

>>50454157
Clutch case still the maximum juicer for Valve btw, see graph, 4 years on, I really don't think they will remove it next. Only scenario I see them removing it is if they replace it with a case that has duplicate gloves to keep the juice flowing for them.

[Anonymous No.50454732]

>>50454691
It is not that bad tho, I bought them because they had lower supply than danger zone one, I don't care if I lose since I got the money by selling my old inventory

[Anonymous No.50454758]

>>50454492
I have this theory where numbers never add up. With the exception of those cases in the rare drop pool, cases that are in the active pool get an arbitrary percentage chance of drop dictated by Valve. If the chances were 19.8% like you said, it would make no sense that Recoil is not dropping as frequently, or how all of a sudden everyone and their dog has a Dreams & Nightmares, or I have an ungodly bad luck to have never encountered a Clutch Case for almost a year of playing continuously after a sabbatical break.

Traditionally, newer cases have a drop chance higher than those in the rare pool, but lower than their counterparts in the active pool. This is to bring people into the game and score some hours and keep player count high. At least that's my two cents on the matter because it just doesn't make sense that they rarely drop during the first couple of weeks until the price is already well in on the market. Inside job manipulation from a couple of Valve employees? Who knows.

The Danger Zone case is almost as old as the Clutch case, just a couple months ahead of it. Again, it's a matter of when now. If that case made it into the rare pool, Clutch will certainly follow any moment now.

[Anonymous No.50454762]

>>50454732
You won't lose money, just there were better case investments. Prisma isn't unboxed that often.

[Anonymous No.50454865]

>>50454663
I believe skins are more like Bitcoin in the sense that they're seen more as speculative assets rather than a stable, Fiat currency. Unless you're trying to move a huge amount of money all at once, skins are very floaty in terms of value against 1 US Dollar. Laundering schemes prefer an item that is recognized to have a fixed value rather than speculative, not to mention that you'll hardly find people willing to buy Sand Dunes every second of the day.
This is where keys played a major role in money laundering schemes until Valve ostracized them from the market. Since they were fixed at a price of $2.50, people always believed them to be worth that price. Any more or any less would be either a daylight robbery, or a steal respectively.

[Anonymous No.50454942]

>>50454758
>If that case made it into the rare pool, Clutch will certainly follow any moment now.

If that's the case, now is the time to buy Clutches, 100%. If that's what you believe stock up, fren.

But check out what I posted in the other comment. Clutch completely dwarfs Danger Zone by openings. I just don't see them removing it, which is why I'm torn on whether to buy them.

Danger Zone's price was the lowest in the pool when it was removed.

[Anonymous No.50455106]

>>50454691
I just don't understand this picture. I get behind the clutch case being opened so many times because of the gloves, but why are the prisma 2, snakebite and d&n opened so frequently? checking the prisma 2 and it has perhaps the worst roster of skins of the bunch, including the knives. are people just opening it for the sake of getting something expensive at this point? to feed their gambling addiction?

[Anonymous No.50455256]

Any other such games with a market as prolific as CSGO? Dota2 used to be big years ago.

[Anonymous No.50455257]

>>50455106
Essentially, yes. I made this same realization not so long ago as well. Namely: your average CSGO case opener is expecting to open a gloves knife primarily, and buys cases based on this logic.

Same reason Breakout is ridiculously expensive, yet Wildfire, Shadow Case, and Falchion Case are the absolute cheapest cases relative to their rarity.

[Anonymous No.50455383]

>>50455257
if I'm not mistaken, breakout is stupid expensive because of the butterfly knives. I think it's the only case where you can get gen1 butterflies from (crimson web, fade, etc)
checking right now and the wildfire just doesn't have any right to be this expensive. no skin worth unboxing and it features all bowies. same for falchion. that knife is the worst of them all alongside the daggers. that hyper beast is doing all the carry.
shadow is okay I guess. with the exception of the daggers, most covert skins are somehow respectable. this market's economy is the equivalent of japan and argentina. no rational economist theories work here.

[Anonymous No.50455473]

>>50455383
Breakout is expensive because Butterfly Knives are the most desirable knives in the games, compared to Wildfire, SHadow and Falchion which are guaranteed "bad" cheap knives. Bowie, Daggers and Falchion are considered to be some of the worst knives in the game. This explains the price difference.

Same with Glove Case/Operation Hydra case being ridiculously expensive. Most desirable 1st gen gloves.

Same reason Spectrum cases and D&nightmares are expensive, because you can get Butterflies out of them.

Red's (Coverts) only have a marginal effect on case price, it's mostly the knife/glove content that matters.

Of course supply/demand has a huge effect as well, with old cases being absurdly expensive because of rarity or the ability to get high-end Case Hardened skins in rare patterns.

See pic rel. Case price correlates with chance of getting "good" knives or glove (butterflies, dopplers, etc) more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.50455782]

>>50455256
Nope. All companies too stupid to capitalize on what Valve did.

[Anonymous No.50455936]

>>50450373
Falchion Case is the next bitcoin.
Both red skins are good-looking.
Fuck you knife is good as well.

[Anonymous No.50456598]

>>50454014
you picked a great time to get into CS case investing in you have a few years time frame, esp the clutch case because the shit has to leave the main pool eventually and you gotta already have the shit when it does

[Anonymous No.50456671]

>>50455936
Ever since Gen1 and Butterfly Valve has been pumping out shit knives. They couldn't even bank on the nostalgia bandwagon with the cs1.6 knife.

[Anonymous No.50456689]

>>50454691
a clutch 2 with good skins would be hype as fuck

[Anonymous No.50456700]

>>50451051
Same here, recently splurged on a Valve Index and still have enough for 15k cases.

[Anonymous No.50456725]

>>50450373

Old third world niggers (see: brazillians, russians, spics) still play this game.

[Anonymous No.50456745]

>>50456725

only**

[Anonymous No.50456783]

>>50456725
>>50456745
Nice business and finance perspective on the matter.

[Anonymous No.50456900]

>>50456783

It is a relevant perspective when it comes to business. See, why would you invest in virtual items of a game that's only played by poor people? There is only so much that Dmitri can afford with his 16950 ruble salary.

[Anonymous No.50457214]

>>50456900
You do know there's actual Chinese, both millionaire and degenerate, playing this game, right? There's also a lot of Western Europeans and Americans.

[Anonymous No.50457874]

Hi op. I spent $9 on cases last year for 0.03 each. I sold them all this year for $80. Takes a while but they always go up. Free games as far as I'm concerned.

[Anonymous No.50457912]

Also for anyone saying it takes too long to sell all the cases you are wrong. If you login to steam on the browser and have certain parameters in your address bar you can mass sell all the crates at once. No third party browser extension needed.

[Anonymous No.50458310]

>>50456725
Truly. Matchmaking is so broken these days I anticipate item prices will fall like they did in TF2. The game isn't even worth playing competitively, you will not be matched with anything close to your skill level. There doesn't seem to be care paid to the game any more. Of ten ranked games in a row played, every player on the other team was 10 ranks higher. Google "shroud's shocking low rank"

[Anonymous No.50458341]

>>50458310
Game died after sound update

[Anonymous No.50458361]

i have a csgo guardian elite badge nad pin for sale on ebay right now for like $5k. anyone wanna buy it pls? is it worth that much or moar?

[Anonymous No.50458386]

what happens to the csgo economy when a new CS game comes out?

Or hell, when a TF3 comes out, I imagine money will flow from csgo into it

[Anonymous No.50458585]

>>50458386
I really doubt a sequel will ever happen. CSGO skins and cases are unironically the reason why products like the Index and the Deck exist. All of these endeavors have been probably financed exclusively thanks to the 15% cut from all the marketplace sales.
Telling people to move on to another version of the game would create a lot of internal issues, not only economical.

[Anonymous No.50459733]

bampf

[Anonymous No.50459912]

I just remembered that i bought a battle pass during operation broken fang, farmed 20-30 cases and now they re worth around 1.6£ each.... Wow this market seems really interesting might begin to look into it
I should probably keep holding them no? Operation cases are extremely limited and should only start to get rarer and rarer

[Anonymous No.50460344]

anyone invest in stickers? seems like an easy market to corner on certain foils

[Anonymous No.50462078]

>>50460344
I had several Katowice 2014 stickers worth several thousand dollars. My girlfriend applied them to my weapon when I was in the bathroom. She wasn't my girlfriend after that.

[Anonymous No.50462189]

>>50450373
This is actually the game you play when you finish crypto.

[Anonymous No.50463284]

>>50450373
remember when we all thought it was hilarious that people were trading WoW loot for real money

[Anonymous No.50464526]

>>50459912
Operation cases now get discontinued instead of moving to the rare pool ever since shattered web so yeah, keep on holding them.

[Anonymous No.50464808]

>>50450373
You do understand that you can’t cash out right? That graph now represents “steam bucks” ever since the trading bots and websites were banned. Wtf you gonna do with hundreds of dollars in gift cards?

[Anonymous No.50464931]

>>50464808
Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.50465390]

does anyone buy stickers? I have a bunch of battle scarred stickers because i think they are one of the better looking ones, but I realize they don't have the gambling aspect of opening a case so maybe i should trade em for something else?

[Anonymous No.50465440]

>>50450373
My friend had hundreds of the first Katowice sticker capsules and then sold them after a few months

He also had howl factory new and someone scammed him for it

Lmao

[Anonymous No.50465510]

>>50450373
I used to play csgo nonstop through high school and college and had a shit ton of cool skins that were all together worth around $50. I sold them after college and haven't touched csgo until recently because my bros and I are getting back into it. My shitty $50 assortment of skins is now worth almost $1000 lmao

[Anonymous No.50465577]

I bought Dragon Lore, Sapphire Butterfly, Emerald Butterfly, Ruby Butterfly and Wild Lotus AK47 all with 0.00 Float last year and im up 40% already

[Anonymous No.50465604]

>be around in 2013
>Get Deagle Blaze just by playing the game (dropped after match)
>I don't like skins as they ruin the aesthetic
>one day someone messages me out of the blue asking if I can give them the blaze deagle
>At the time it's probably worth like £0.40 so idc
>Yeah dude have it
>Fast forward 10 years
>It's worth £500
>If this guy got 100 people to him their deagle at the time, hed have £50,000 right now

Fuck my life. I play runescape before so I'm not a stranger to the concept of rares
why couldn't I have seen this as an investment opportunity

[Anonymous No.50465626]

>>50463284
They still do, WoW classic is a shit show everyone buys and sells gold

[Anonymous No.50465687]

>>50451182
has anyone considered this game will die completely at some point

I mean it has been a gradual decline and after playing it for a couple of years it really does get stale and boring

it's at its worst point that ever has been

I think it is only propped up by the Chinese players who recently flooded it when a new game comes out to capture that market this will die off and the prices of skins will plummet

[Anonymous No.50466489]

bkvuil lgytlyio/bpo

[Anonymous No.50466781]

yeah CSGO is the closest thing to an actual esports P2E kek
Till Time Raiders releases and takes the cake

[Anonymous No.50466801]

>>50450373
You are a fucking stupid dipshit boii

[Anonymous No.50466898]

>>50451442
buff
>>50450373
the most opportunities are when operations drop, that's all i gonna say

[Anonymous No.50467138]

>>50465687
The game is pulling around 1MM concurrent players daily. Been topping the charts for time immemorial except during PUBG's launch.
>>50466781
>>50466801
>people actually fudding case investing
Guess there's peas for everything lol

[Anonymous No.50469113]

>>50450373
Investing in USDT has been saving my ass, the rewards might not be so outstanding but i think it's fair considering I get to diversify my portfolio based on Spool strategies.

[Anonymous No.50469154]

>>50462078
Oh shit anon, what weapon was it? a p250 sand dune?

[Anonymous No.50469186]

>>50450373
if Russians get banned from this game or connecting to it how will that effect business? I hear CSGO has a major Slav player base.

[Anonymous No.50469513]

>>50458361
Risking $5k on some badge, wondering if it would be more profitable than just staking the USDT for good yields via spool.

[Anonymous No.50470198]

>>50469113
Can those diversified portfolio make the APY up to say 80% ... If not for the reduced gas, I'd say that it doesn't worth it ... Don't scold me .

[Anonymous No.50471611]

>>50466898
>that's all i gonna say
NOOOO WE NEED YOU
TELL US MORE, PLEASE

[Anonymous No.50471782]

>>50465390
there is no point in buying stickers like that, only stickers of popular teams
tho they usually are expensive already

[Anonymous No.50471783]

>>50469186
Valve would never do it.

[Anonymous No.50472757]

>>50465687
>has anyone considered this game will die completely at some point
even if that happens Valve can release and updated CS and people will flock there

[Anonymous No.50472786]

[Anonymous No.50473119]

I have 150 operation riptide and 200 operation wildfire
will i make it?
I also bought every other case aside from anything above 5 dollars
I sold a knife I got from a gambaling site and invested it
I am assuming when csgo goes to the new engine everything should moon

[Anonymous No.50473395]

>>50464808
retard.

>>50465687
>released in 2000
>goes through several iterations
>considered THE esport
>virtual skins worth (ACTUAL TRANSACTIONS) $50k++
>new autistic bug people player base with tons and tons of cash
>bro this game will die some day!!
consider kys

[Anonymous No.50473752]

>>50473119
>150 op riptide
Yes.
>200 op wildfire
Will take a bit longer but yeah, you're made for life.

[Anonymous No.50473845]

>spent over £600 opening cases when I was younger
>never even got a knife
I shoulda jsut kept the cases kek

[Anonymous No.50474028]

You just made me check my Steam account for the first time in ages, but I only found ~100€ worth of cases. A friend found more than 500€.

How come everything went up so much in price? I bought him a Deagle Cobalt Disruption for like 5-10€ back then, now it's 60€.

I had hundreds of Breakout cases that I sold for cents, what happened since I stopped playing to move the market this much?

[Anonymous No.50474084]

>>50474028
supply and demand
they cut off those cases ages ago
the skins are in demand within the case
fewer people are selling or dont have any since theyve been opened throughout the years
just like bitcoin 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.50474108]

>>50473752
Yeah I bought or used my stars on op riptide
and I bought op wf
hopefully one day theyre worth 10 dollars each
will never have to buy games again

[Anonymous No.50474191]

>>50474084

Fuckin hell, who would have thought

I specifically remember buying like 400 Cologne 2014 Capsules after those first Katowice ones flew up in value.

But these didn't move for like 4-6 months and I sold all of them cause I was poor as fuck and wanted to buy some games.

Shit would have been worth $20k now lmao

[Anonymous No.50474199]

>>50474028
>what happened since I stopped playing to move the market this much?
Unironically China.

[Anonymous No.50474309]

Just a suggestion to ignore all price action and all info about trading before China entered CS:GO if you’re just now considering it. I don’t know what would ever increase the prices like that again, it all seems like a shot in the dark now.

[Anonymous No.50474414]

[Anonymous No.50474681]

>>50474028
>I bought him a Deagle Cobalt Disruption for like 5-10€ back then, now it's 60€.
Cobalt Disruption is food for trading up to Coverts. The more used in that process, the less supply available. It's also from an older, more expensive case and not many are opening it anymore.