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>> No.50449196

fakest gayest pump ive ever seen in my entire life

>> No.50449198

This rally will fail.

Like the others.

>> No.50449205

I sware to Cramer we finish red

>> No.50449208

>>50449138
this market is ________ and ________.

>> No.50449210
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50449210

bobo status: heemed

>> No.50449214
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50449214

I took profit too early today

>> No.50449226

>>50449208
founded by Elizabeth Holmes and eligible for the monkpox vaccine.

>> No.50449228

>>50449166
>>50449133
>>50449113
>>50449096
>>50449187
Don't be fags and post the full versions

>> No.50449229
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50449229

I don't understand how the market has recovered the past couple weeks.

>> No.50449244

>>50449214
Nobody ever got heemed from taking profit early

>> No.50449246

>>50449226
uh, not exactly what I was going for bro.

>> No.50449248

>>50449138
>>50449196
>>50449198
>>50449205
>>50449208
>>50449210
>>50449214
>>50449226
>>50449228
>>50449229
PSA: all newfags, stop saying "kek" every other post. Thank you

>> No.50449254
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50449254

>>50449138
Time to slut out this market anal style. Should have warned you Bobo the bottom is priced in after all.

>> No.50449259

>>50449228
Can't you just search through paheal? https://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Lum/1

Also OIL?

>> No.50449269

>>50449248
newfag detected.

>> No.50449270
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>>50449138
APOLOGIZE

>> No.50449272

RKLB, ML, ADTX looking good today

>> No.50449274

Any thoughts on BRPM and how high it will go tomorrow?

>> No.50449277

Either 100bps hike this time and no more for a while so they can see the effects or 75 and probably another 75 2 months later

>> No.50449284

I literally bought the top of SQQQ
I can't even fathom how unbelievably stupid/unlucky I am

I don't know why I even bother trying anymore

>> No.50449285
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50449285

>nooooo you milkbreaths can't just buy SOXL and make money you're going to get CHOPPED

>> No.50449291

kek, hope you mumu's had fun, there's a surprise in store for you. kek

>> No.50449301
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>>50449228
Why? So you can coom? Is that what you wanna do little coomer?

>> No.50449309

Does anyone want to buy a put calendar spread on SPY with me for FOMC? SPY Stock Ladies?

>> No.50449315
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50449315

still shorting nflx

>> No.50449316
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>>50449153
100% sustainable and clean white power.

>> No.50449318

>>50449284
post the position

>> No.50449319
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>>50449291
Mmmhmm nothing better than a big cup of cope in the morning

>> No.50449323 [DELETED] 
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50449323

Clown town

>> No.50449336
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50449336

Get it together, coomers.

>> No.50449344
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50449344

What to buy?

>> No.50449354
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50449354

>crab getting boiled by mumus or bobos
>sudden spike in nerve system response akin to AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.50449356

Need my bag of HBAR to start pumping already. the foundation and the tech is taking this shit to the literal fucking moonz

>> No.50449358

Bros can I get your feedback on your favorite Unranium miners? Wondering if I should diversify outside my one holding: Denison.

>> No.50449359

>>50449344
Rope

>> No.50449360

>>50449323
kek our favorite big booty baby killing latinx got arrested. that's a top signal if i've ever seen one kek

>> No.50449362

Any commodity bros here sold the rip in WFG? I did.

>> No.50449369
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50449369

idc what you mumu's say
im gonna buy a shit ton of SQQQ at market close today
this scam-pump is gonna plummet back to reality tomorrow

>> No.50449372

The Trapdoor Spiders Will Crawl Back Into The SPX Options Complex On FOMC. Put Calendar Spread. Skew Flattens on Puts.

>> No.50449373
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50449373

>kek, hope you mumu's had fun, there's a surprise in store for you. kek

>> No.50449376

>>50449344
solar panels if you own a house.

>> No.50449379
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50449379

is the CHIPS bill passing or what

>> No.50449388

>>50449359 >>50449344
kek these green new deal energy policies are literally going to grind the economy to a hault.

>> No.50449397
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50449397

Anyone checked on bobo lately?

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>>50449323
What a bad ass. She's got me creamy.

>> No.50449404

will netflix shit the bed again?

>> No.50449405
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>>50449373
is it another green day, that would be swell

>> No.50449407
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>>50449200
VIX futures curve is usually in contango. You sell front month contract and buy longer dated ones to profit off the skew. Alternatively, you just sell/buy the SPX options that VIX is based on.

Occasionally though, you get a moment like Feb 2018:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI395YShGRQ

>> No.50449409

spy predictions for tomorrow?

>> No.50449410

>>50449323
AOC is so cringe. She was definitely the weird girl in school who was obsessed with horses. Now that she is in government she thinks she's cool.

>> No.50449416

>>50449376
Got industrial size PV array on my warehouse last year, saved easily 30k this year alone from double electricity prices
National power companies can suck my nuts

>> No.50449422

>>50449362
How is anything in the lumber space mooning when real estate is keeling over?

>> No.50449430
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>>50449323
>Oops we forgot the handcuffs!

>> No.50449432
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>>50449409
399.99

>> No.50449437

>>50449228
There's something subtly arousing about cropped porn, that you don't quite experience when viewing the full image.

>> No.50449446

>>50449344
sell. executive orders are unpopular and bearish.

>> No.50449447

>>50449422
Soon we will be burning their stock for heating fuel

>> No.50449456

>>50449407
kek, this nigga shorted natural gas

>> No.50449461

>>50449323
why couldnt the cops do the right thing and just fucking shoot this cunt?

>> No.50449466

MCCONNELL: AT THIS TIME, I WILL NOT VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHIPS BILL, I'LL DECIDE ON THE CHIPS

>> No.50449465
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50449465

power to the pumpers

>> No.50449467

>>50449344
Calls

>> No.50449487

>>50449410
Nah, she was the overachiever midwit that studied too much and crushed on the sports team captain. In college she was the poly sci chick that got a bf she could dominate but secretly wished the finance bro, coke heads would rough fuck her in their Porsche boxters. After graduation she was pulled into politics because she’s a useful dupe and in love with status. She’s convinced herself she’s a serious person while doing what she’s told.

>> No.50449490

Are you buying the real cheapies today?
Shitco puts?

>> No.50449493

bros what the fuck is going on? i just recieved a 24 hour notice to convert my russian ADR shares to DR.
why such a short deadline?

>> No.50449497

>>50449344
Oil

>> No.50449498

>>50449461
they couldn't shoot her because she isn't black kek

>> No.50449500

>>50449466
What did anyone expect? Isn't he married to a Chink?

>> No.50449509

>>50449487
This is probably dead accurate.

>> No.50449513

>>50449466
Does he want a chance to buy them too?

>> No.50449514
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>>50449466
Based Turtleman dunking on the fags buying NVDA/AMD.

>> No.50449523
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50449523

>>50449437
Wow this isn't porn, it's just a healthy relationship between a brother and his sister.

>> No.50449526

>>50449500
yeah i heard elliot rodger was their first born

>> No.50449528

>>50449514
>msi
nothing competes against my rx580
It now costs 4 times the price i got it for 3 years ago

>> No.50449533

Back in black on my boeing (BA) after the last couple months. My average is 155. Hold into profit or dump this stinker? I bought cheapies in 2020 but my faith in the company is basically zero after this last year.

>> No.50449534
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50449534

>>50449493
Which one? Also you already know why.

>> No.50449535

>get performance review
>Company is giving me another 70k in rsu
>Won't be assigned a stock value until next month
>Stock will probably jump up 30% in the time it takes to get assigned
Such gay bullshit. Whatever I'll take the free money I guess.

>> No.50449538
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....well, I will never try to short the market again, ever

>> No.50449539

>>50449466
Mark this day and see that pelosi husband sold. 10 minutes ago.

>> No.50449540
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50449540

>>50449498
They needed to make an exception.

>> No.50449543
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>>50449487
I still remember her crying after she got strong armed into voting for money to Israel. She thought she had power. She is just a puppet to the jews. Also I've gotten 3 emergency alert test texts on my phone in the last 2 hours. They are obviously planning something.

>> No.50449542

>>50449042
https://voca.ro/13NyuEEEt4Mu

front month has long tails put (low delta) to cap gamma risk. i dont think betting against short term risk is worth it unless you have strategic buffer like a long put that is farther OTM

structu

>> No.50449548

>>50449490
?

>> No.50449550
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50449550

>>50449410
>>50449487
Both of these can be true you know.

>> No.50449560

>>50449533
I prefer the cruise industry.
>NCLH

>> No.50449566
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50449566

>>50449543
Kek what a paranoid bitch

>> No.50449568

>>50449487
You can gut every polsci student alive right now and the world will be none the wiser

>> No.50449569

>>50449528
>msi
FEAR THE DRAGON

>> No.50449571

>>50449523
I heard that she wasn't even supposed to be related to him before they did a last minute change.

>> No.50449576

>>50449456
Unfortunately I don't have any good memes saved for the actual XIV blowup. Rogue wave is the closest I have.
Technically it blew out in the Jan expiry anyway, although all the short VIX ETFs were delisted in early Feb.

>> No.50449582

>>50449430
She’s mimicking Bernie Sanders. She’s there to replace him to be the “for the people” candidate.

>> No.50449591

>>50449539
They should have to report their purchases immediately. In fact, they should have to buy their positions on a government exchange with up-to-date data accessible to everyone. Either that or not be able to buy stocks at all.

>> No.50449592
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50449592

Hmm

>> No.50449595
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50449595

any other conservative investors in the thread?

>> No.50449601

>>50449533
BA is exhibit A for how corporate welfare ruins entire sectors. They were one of the earliest and unironically too big to fail despite trying harder every time to. Expect CHIPS act level corporate welfare in the near future. And shitcos getting such subsidies to survive is considered bullish now.
>>50449548
BYND for example. Absolute pile of shit co. Puts are on fire sale today.

>> No.50449608

The bond market is pricing in a recession and a pivot. Who here has enough experience to tell me how likely it is that the bond market is wrong? My base case is 3.5 on the 10 yr EOY but who am I?

>> No.50449611
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>>50449571
Honestly that just makes it better. They obviously knew what they were doing.

>> No.50449625

>>50449543
Oh fuck, how could they make things worse? Hopefully it’s bullish for me…
>>50449550
Yknow, you’re right. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

>> No.50449644
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50449644

>>50449576
i saved this one, kek

>> No.50449655

>>50449534
all of those that were delisted
and the notice came with no documentation or clear instruction on how to actually initiate the transfer

>> No.50449656

How much of a portfolio should be in nat gas in these turbulent times?

>>50449595
Congrats. I'm waiting for single digits

>> No.50449661

>>50449200
>so I'm not sure how you'd profit off a drop in IV.
IV too high still....look at where RV has taken us for these things when the parity is this wide.

>> No.50449666

>>50449608
>The bond market is pricing in a recession and a pivot. Who here has enough experience to tell me how likely it is that the bond market is wrong?
It is basically "The Fed chickens out and has to pull a 2018 all over again". If they are right, then the Fed ceases to have any credibility and you should just go balls deep leverage on absolute shit like Bitcoin.
If that pivot doesn't happen because they still to their strategy policy papers from 2019 you will get one hell of a correction.

>> No.50449667

>>50449595
God I wish that were me. I just have 100 shares, hoping next drop I can pick up more

>> No.50449681

>>50449644
Do zoomers know about George Z?

>> No.50449686

>>50449666
>the Fed ceases to have any credibility
It's 2022, the fed doesn't even have legitimacy, much less *credibility*.

>> No.50449701

>>50449644
Oh fuck I forgot about TVIX. A lot of good money died buying TVIX calls.

>> No.50449702
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50449702

>>50449301
yes

>> No.50449713
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>>50449681
One can only hope they do.

>> No.50449724

>>50449601
>Expect CHIPS act level corporate welfare in the near future

Corporations are niggers. I want out of this system so badly.

>> No.50449725

>>50449138
Siga people, be real, should I sell now or nah

>> No.50449735
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50449735

Good lord this volume is so thin. Pump is powered by fairy tales and make believe.
>>50449430
You'd think she would have learned the lesson after that fence crying picture backfired.

>> No.50449740

>>50449611
>They obviously knew what they were doing.
They sure as fuck didn't later on though. Damn shame.

>> No.50449751

>>50449725
yes

>> No.50449756
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>>50449702
I hope you are good with image search then.

>> No.50449758

Sour half hour?

>> No.50449765

SOXL credit spreads?? too illiqiud

>> No.50449768
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50449768

FUCKING FUCK MY FAVORITE MOON MISSION TOOK OFF WITHOUT ME

>> No.50449769

>>50449686
>It's 2022, the fed doesn't even have legitimacy, much less *credibility*.
The bond and stock market moves of 2022 are implicit impacts from the Fed still having credible "threats". Jawboning is very much part of the "toolkit" and they have talked about it many times over the past decade or so. If the Fed put has to exist despite inflation then you really can and should be buying only leveraged shit stocks and realizing gains in hard assets.

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>>50449538

>> No.50449784

>>50449595
based. whats your price per share?

>> No.50449792
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I solded. Will see what happens tomorrow :)

>> No.50449799

>>50449784
16.97, literally says right there

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>>50449740
I'd like to think the porn made in the end redeemed some of it.

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The only thing that can save bobo now is if powell comes out next fomc with a 200bps hike, and says they're gonna dump the entire balance sheet in a week.

>> No.50449823

>>50449805
I'll have sold my puts for losses by then... I can't keep doing this

>> No.50449843

UP $45,000 ON SOXL CALLS

LETS GET TO $50,000

>> No.50449847
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50449847

>Missed the generational bottom for SPY

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50449856

>>50449843
Bro, take some off ffs

>> No.50449864

wow they want us to buy so bad right now

>> No.50449868
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50449868

>>50449354
why do people pretend that crabs can't feel pain just because we do not find them aesthetically pleasing.

>> No.50449886

prices have literally been oversold for the last week lets be honest, did earnings even come in yet?

>> No.50449887

I feel like what is happening to bobos is the finance version of George Floyd. Institutions are kneeling on their neck and we're all just watching. We know it's wrong just like the Ukraine invasion, but we're powerless.
It's so heartbreaking

>> No.50449893

>>50449843
how do i get to be like you no meme shit

>> No.50449896

When will the chip act go up for vote again?

>> No.50449900

>>50449887
but Floyd was a worthless crackhead that got what he deserved?

>> No.50449902

>>50449843
Godspeed, madlad.
>inb4 you get cucked by congressniggers

>> No.50449914

>>50449725
No, wait till at least the 28th for it to get in the media again. They are having a meeting that could make it a global health crisis.

>> No.50449920

>>50449113

>> No.50449925
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>>50449864
>If you don't let us wipe you out in a market crash inflation will go up forever the public has too much money reeeeeee
kek

>> No.50449924

WHAT THE FUCK
I STEP AWAY FROM MY ACCOUNT FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND IM DOWN 10%

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FAKE AND GAY PUMP!!!!!

>> No.50449933

so what we thinking tomorrow i already solded my calls but im thinking it melts up a bit more tomorrow before eventually dumping.

>> No.50449942

>>50449920
>>50449113
Source?

>> No.50449945

>VOL EXPANDING
>EVERYTHING PUMPING HIGHER

oh boy we red af tomorrow

>> No.50449955
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50449955

>>50449924
Are you not in OIL (ticker: PUTIN)?

>captcha: GG MRK

>> No.50449960

Netflix earnings? Go all in on puts?

>> No.50449966

>funds hit brokerage
>won't let me buy calls or puts
thanks schwab, I have lvl 1 let me position ass faggots

>> No.50449972

>>50449945
>MMs hedging
that is their job yes

>> No.50449975

AOC is my big booty latina queen

>> No.50449984
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50449984

>>50449933
Mirin' those digits
But yeah we're dumping like a motherfucker tomorrow.

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50450007

OOOOOOOOO THAT PUMP INTO CLOSE
(((THEY))) LAUGHING AT (YOU) BOBO

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https://tos.mx/5eToRAh

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50450012

OOOOH YEAH. Fucking POOMP EET

>> No.50450019

>>50449868
Just feeling pain isn't the problem. Even single-cell amoebas feel 'pain'. Doesn't mean they're self-aware or capable of suffering in an anthropomorphic sense.

And if crabs can suffer, they deserve it anyway

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50450029

Might actually beat inflation today.

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50450035

>>50449942
Just do a search already guys. No need to be such desperate coomers about it.

>> No.50450037

>>50449960
Depends, how low are expectations? Banks lost 25 to 50 percent in profits yet they pumped since they "beat" earnings.

>> No.50450046

God help me. My money just keeps disappearing.

>> No.50450051

>>50450035
Does she have some kind of skin disease?

>> No.50450055

>this pump
YOUR MONEY VILL BE VORTH NOHZING AND YOU VILL EAT ZE BUGS GOY

>> No.50450060
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Suffer the wrath of Heaven

>> No.50450066

>>50450051
Yes, that's only treated by some kind of cream. You see it in later panels.

>> No.50450076
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>>50449864
It's like Ben Graham said: don't get trolled.

>> No.50450087

>>50450037
yeah, everything is in pump mode, i don't know, gotta decide in a minute, having shit luck as of late

>> No.50450095

digits and i double down on my aapl puts

>> No.50450098
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Sitting on 7/29 nflx 150 puts. Bought with unsettled funds by mistake so now I can't sell or i'll hit my GFV on webull.
up 25% but i'm betting after ER i'm going to watch it melt to nothing.

>> No.50450122

>>50449942
It’s Gwen from Ben10. Search her name on the cartoon porn sites you freaks visit and you’ll find what you want. Goddamn coomers.

>> No.50450121

>>50449595
I have 425 shares

>> No.50450123
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>selling calls with limit orders
i've ascended

>> No.50450135
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>>50450051
More like a coom disease

>> No.50450136
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50450136

>Cramer doesn't open
>green
We should have known

>> No.50450144

>>50450098
>he doesn’t have a margin account

>> No.50450156

>>50450066
>>50450123
I'm just wondering what's causing those growths on her shoulders.

>> No.50450162

>>50449542
Sorry bro. Didn't mean to upset you. The play is honestly solid and I'm sure you'll do well.

Personally I'm too focused on the impending commodity shortage to pay much attention on those sorts of short term derivatives speculative plays so I'm just projecting and assuming that active traders pricing these derivatives would know at least as much as me regarding the rate hike schedule.
The world is short oil and gas and no one seems to care anymore. Why bother to do anything else when you can just sit in coal stocks and make 100% returns, you know?

Hoping you'll get out of this phase soon and come back down to earth, but you seem to be drifting more into the abyss that is analyzing underlying market plumbing. But if you're actually making money with that shit, I suppose I can't blame you.

>> No.50450164

>>50450144
I'm too big on the double down, with margin I would eventually ruin myself financially instead of this where I just lose profit money only.

>> No.50450165
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DVN BROS

>> No.50450168

>>50450035
Search failed >>50450037

>> No.50450170

nflx 150 put for friday???

>> No.50450173
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50450173

I am inevitable

>> No.50450185

TOO POOR TPOR Bros..

>> No.50450186

just a friendly reminder to be on your guard ahead of big-boy earnings next week. eps compression is coming sooner or later.

>> No.50450193

>>50450173
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.50450199

>>50449214
Be happy that you profited.
We might dump tomorrow.

>> No.50450204

>>50450173
Let my crude go, you evil crustacean!

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>>50450168
Keep trying, try harder! Search deeper!

>> No.50450213
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50450213

*FLICK*
Ah, the start of consumer earnings.
ALEXA, pull up NFLX, 1 min candles, zoom in, max my margin and use my cubs college fund account.

>> No.50450225
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AND THEY DON'T STOP BUYIN
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>> No.50450229
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50450229

STOP POSTING PORN RIGHT NOW!

>> No.50450233

Buying some long term Netflix calls. I own all this streaming shit through my girlfriends family and they're still far and away better than anything else. No way it's gonna be as bad as forecasted and the market is just recovering in general. Easy bounce to $400 in the next few months. Gonna try some Dec OTM.

Also they're about to debut the first Ryan Gosling move in like 5 years he's literally me.

>> No.50450243

>read news headline
>it says market pumps due to upbeat earnings
>look at earnings
>they’re less than last quarters earnings and was less than last years earnings
>shit guidance as well
>market pumps because earnings beat “estimates”

Lol. I’m so sick of this market

>> No.50450249

Scaramucci's fund suspended withdrawals

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>>50450229
Why?

>> No.50450258

>blogpost meant to make you buy this fake rally for faggots so institutions can dump on your face overnight

>> No.50450269

>>50450205
You would think a redheaded tomboy would be motivation enough for them.

>> No.50450270

what time do nflx earnings report

>> No.50450275
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50450275

>sqqq and soxs at the same price
it's over bobo

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>>50450270
1 minute

>> No.50450283

I panic sold everything, VIX not going down is spooking me.

>> No.50450286
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we will crash so ha-ACK

>> No.50450287

all the ponzi schemes are collapsing, and the market is rocketing up ward. none of this makes any fucking sense.

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50450292

>ranfag returns to SMG after nearly a year gone
>SOXL immediately reverses and goes from $11 to $17 over a few weeks

he's like an inverse signal or something

>> No.50450296

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ud0Hi8yeI&ab_channel=Parvu

>> No.50450300
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50450300

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

>> No.50450303

>>50450243
It's so pointless to even look at earnings. I've had plenty of calls drop even when the stock beats estimates, because the real expectation was they'd beat estimates by even more.

>> No.50450308

>>50450243
This, what a load of shit

>> No.50450311

>>50450300
I'm down 75%

>> No.50450313
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bear market fucking CANCELLED! Outta my way, you bobo fucking shits.

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>>50450282
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>50450300
-1.14%, after daily inflation.

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>>50450300
kek. The only significant volume of the day was an ass load of selling in the final 60 seconds. Still /cashgang/.

>> No.50450324

>>50450287
My utterly unsupported theory right now is people are moving back to stocks as real estate stops rocketing.

>> No.50450330

WHAT'S HAPPENING IT WAS UP 12% WHY IS IT GOING DOWN

PUMP FUCKER PUMP

>> No.50450331
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50450331

>he sold the bottom

>> No.50450332

>>50450300
+44.67%. I sold my calls too early though :(

>> No.50450333

>>50450243
It makes sense that it would correct to some level. Priced in now though, the time to make that bet was yesterday. Now those who bought are searching themselves for a reason to hang on for more gains, hold, or take profits while they can.

>> No.50450338

If you're down right now and you've ever said "you're losing a lot of money right now aren't you," then I'm glad you're down, and fuck you. Asshole

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>NFLX
LMAO rip in peace bobos

>> No.50450352

>>50450287
nothing makes sense because you have a room temperature iq

>> No.50450359

>>50449315
>>50450098
LOL

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>>50450300
Comfy +0.5%

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50450368

Alright so today summed up.
Lost a lot on SPX puts
Lost a lot on NFLX puts
Won small on QQQ

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

>> No.50450370

>>50450300
great sold my calls that were super negative yesterday for a small profit. timing was horrible but diamond hands won today. bought a put for tomorrow just cause it was the obvious thing to do. trying to fucking overthink this market has fucked me so im taking the simple route.

>> No.50450381

>>50450300
I’m such a fucking fuckup
Keep selling bottoms and buying tops and I FUCKING HATE IT

>> No.50450383

NFLX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.50450387

Lol my NFLX puts are destroyed. My bad luck continues.

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>>50450300
4.87% up! Made a little over $6k today

>> No.50450393

>>50450359
well you win some, you lose some.

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>>50450300
+3%

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50450406

NVAX was at double volume and went up 11.6%

>> No.50450410

completely irrational

>> No.50450412

Sold my calls for a $44,000 profit

also I kept a chart of every ticket SMG recommended the past year and they are all down lol, I pretty much just inverse what people do here and its looking a little euphoric for my taste

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N-FLX bros????????

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now this is some clownmarket

>> No.50450420

gotta be honest feels like a bulltrap I am selling all of my calls tomorrow

>> No.50450428

any interactive brokers bros tell me how to show MY PERSONAL PERCENTAGE % P&L from the time i initiated the trade? All this shit does is some faggy from last close bullshit

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>>50450300
+7.95%

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>>50450300
>literally crabbed all day and it was beautiful because I sold covered calls. So this is what it feels like to be a theta Chad.

>> No.50450441

netflix earnings were shit. it will be red tomorrow. i own calls so i'm not even fudding like a retard. fuck me.

>> No.50450444

All of Netflix top shows released last quarter and u retards shorted HAHAHA REST IN PISS BOBOFUCKS

>> No.50450455

Sorry bears no cuming today

>> No.50450466

>>50449666
wasted satans on powell gossip post

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50450490

>Pivots on you, drives the lane, and dunks on your shortfolio

>> No.50450496

nflx confirms we green tomorrow again
unironically 410

>> No.50450507
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>>50450352
kek you're calling me retarded. well guess what, i'm not retarded because this post is dubz

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>>50450300
Big basket: +1.68484% (not repeating)
Smol basket: +0.20555% (not repeating)

...pathetic, I am

>> No.50450523

For anybody who doesn't understand why we're not going down: The ECB is bragging about rigging the entire European market, you can bet your ass the FED is doing the same.

>> No.50450529

>>50450300
8.8%
How long till the fed does the next rate hike % announcement?

>> No.50450532

>>50450470
Bears confirmed piss drinkers. S&P 5000 EOY

>> No.50450538
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>>50450523
Wrong

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ASMB stock ladies!

>> No.50450542

>>50450412
Do you think the. cHips act will pass today

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>>50450287
>>50450324
>>50450352
Bo-bros...
Never forget that the market exists to part you from your money. What's happening right now is multifaceted, but essentially the market is just sprung the trap on inexperienced bears who couldn't identify an incoming headfake.
Now the market is in the process of trapping the bulls for the n'th time. We'll probably have another legdown starting sometime next week.

In the meantime, don't fight the market. Being perma-bearish is just as retarded as being a perma-bull.

>> No.50450564

>>50449248
kek

>> No.50450567

>>50450541
Is that a new lady?

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50450573

Hourly ES futures since 4am this morning.

>> No.50450584

>>50450098
i've gotten burned a few times, it happens. tho i decided to stop gambling and it's been better for my account.

>> No.50450603

Gonna either crab or dumb tomorrow. There’s no fucking way this euphoria is going to continue on “muh 1% retail growth in June” for long. Also, no way QT or recession is remotely priced-in.

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50450604

do i short netflix at open

>> No.50450605

>>50450098
HAHAHAHAHA HOW'D IT WORK OUT FAGGOT

>> No.50450607

We get a pivot in September but I still think its going to be choppy trading with pumps and dumps until then. Rn is low volume pumps, dump calls and buy puts for next week, then do the opposite after FOMC. Repeat until the big long starts in September

>> No.50450619

>>50450573
Eventually the stock market will be solved, and it'll be just a totally vertical green line going up followed by a totally vertical red line going doing in perpetuity every minute of every day.

>> No.50450624

>>50450603
Because we're not tightening and there isn't a recession retard lmao you shorted the bottom LOL.

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>>50450098
>you and your NFLX puts

>> No.50450635

>>50450603
Low volume + Fed swap shenanigans = markets fucked up and don’t care about logic

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>>50450605
I said I was going to end up watching it melt into nothing? I just wasn't paying attention that I bought $1 worth out of unsettled funds and webull won't let me sell without risking losing my account.

>> No.50450646

>>50450607
>We get a pivot in September
Not saying I disagree, just curious how you came to that conclusion?

>> No.50450652

>>50450635
*the main culprit here is the yen. Holding up the whole god damn market rn.

>> No.50450667

>>50450607
>>50450646
Clueless literal niggers

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up bigly today but still bought the store brand refried beans for my burritos tonight

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looks like it's time for you to head back into the wagie cagie bobo

>> No.50450676

>>50450561
Oh, I'm not concerned, I learned my lesson years ago and do a reasonable amount of hedging. I just also don't take estimates seriously

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Bitcoin is up 7.5$
We are going down, right?

>> No.50450704

>>50450624
kys retard. it will be the worst recession your ass will ever see

>> No.50450708
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50450708

Watch this stock with your eyes ears mouth feet

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Bobo YET AGAIN thought he was Michael fucking Burry.

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>>50450708

>> No.50450744

>>50450722
bobos idol is unironically some twitter troll that larps as a woman. let that sink in.

fuck bobos.

>> No.50450747

>>50450646
we get a 75 bps hike next week, then a 50 in august before the fed stops hiking since none of these hikes are helping with inflation and will create a negative feedback loop of higher interest costs = higher prices and discourage production increases.

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KEK these calls are a rollercoaster

>> No.50450788

>>50450747
Stocks up, oil goes up. Simple as.
Oil will break out by EOD Friday to $110+. Fed will freak.

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JANNIES FUCKING GAVE ME A BAN FOR POSTING GWEN FROM BEN 10 AND SHE ISNT EVEN FUCKING NAKED WTF!!!

>> No.50450805

>>50450727
heh. You'll regret it.

>> No.50450811

>>50450747
The Fed is trying to put people out of work and increase unemployment, until we see unemployment rising their won't be a pivot

>> No.50450814

>>50450722
Kek not even Michael Burry thinks it's going to go lower.

>> No.50450839

>>50450722
And you areYET AGAIN an unfunny faggot posting the same unfunny shit day in and day out -- basically spam at this point -- just to be an extremely boring and abrasive asshole.

>> No.50450841 [DELETED] 

>>50450789
The janny has no fucking idea what NSFW means.

>> No.50450844

laugh not at our ursine brothers, but shed a tear

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>>50450844
Team mammal!

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Am I seriously about to get fucked in a single fucking day?

>> No.50450869 [DELETED] 

>>50450841
>>50450789
At least you weren't banned for posting off topic, when your post was about rate hikes.

>> No.50450870

>>50450863
post positions

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>>50450789

>> No.50450877

>his entire contribution to the planet consists of spreading a "crab bucket full of backbiting face-saving dickheads" vibe

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>>50450722
Mumu, your time will come. Bears hibernate, bulls get slaughtered.

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>>50450814
burry doesn't think it's over by a long shot

>> No.50450896

>>50450567
Yes

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>>50450857
>you just know

>> No.50450905

Seriously why don't you slither back down into your cave full of grabby, sniveling rat people

>> No.50450909

>>50450882
yea uh-huh, can I get some large fries with my order.

>> No.50450914

>>50450788
stocks will just crab with extra volatility, oil is going to keep pumping for now.
>>50450811
Layoffs and hiring slows have already started, despite the 9.1 inflation reading they're not even considering a 100 bps hike. The pivot to neutral is happening.

>> No.50450937

>>50450869
Don't feel too bad. Every real /smg/ poster suffers through at least one false ban. It's part of the initiation.

>> No.50450939

We have actual spirits up here, and your constant social vying [which doesn't even actually get you anywhere, you incompetent and lazy faggot] is no longer welcome.

>> No.50450956

holy fuck we're still pumping

>> No.50450958
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50450958

SPY, you've been called back to Top Gun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh0SPkqZFDs

>> No.50450961
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reminder not to think anything

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>>50450937
>False ban
>Lose 10s of thousands of dollars
What else?

>> No.50450984

>>50450961
the message is that not anything is as simple as you want it to be not to not think at all

>> No.50450994

>>50450984
i knew it, he's bullish

>> No.50451021

Crude 1.860MM vs 4.762MM, Est 0.333MM
Gasoline 1.290MM
Distillate -2.153MM
Cushing +0.523MM

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1549492649656287234

>> No.50451026

>>50450994
if he switched to bullish now and is right his performance this year must be godlike

>> No.50451041

>>50450961
I work close to procurement in a company and purchasing patterns have not changed. There's no such thing as rationing or buying more now before prices increase again

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futures traders are having fun in after hours

>> No.50451050

>>50451026
He's still expecting an earnings compression so no, he's bearish.

>> No.50451055

>>50451021
Dammit, I want to see what happens when Cushing hits tank bottoms.

>> No.50451057

>>50451050
>this one didn't get the message

>> No.50451072

YITWB

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>>50450839
Aw poor whittle baby crying he lost money, take your meds

>> No.50451091

>>50451021
looks bearish oil fags

>> No.50451106

>>50451091
I hope, sold an otm CC on lardeo petroleum for 1800 bucks clean

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one more day, a thousand more kills

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>>50451043

>> No.50451131

>>50451124
>>50451124
>>50451124
NEWW
>>50451124
>>50451124
>>50451124
NEWW

>> No.50451177

>>50451073
>take your meds
It really is just spam at this point. Literally go back to rebbit you boring faggot.

>> No.50451285

>>50450412
The entire market is down you goofball

>> No.50451298

>>50450523
google yield curve control
Japan is probably doing it too

>> No.50451301

>>50451177
Only you are responsible for your financial decisions little bobo, don't take your pain out on me, I didn't tell you to take those positions, if it causes you this much rage and turmoil consider another hobby :)