/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.50269934]

>major in CS at decent uni
>maintain 4.0
>grind leetcode throughout
>intern
>make connections
>graduate with 4.0
>use connections to get FAGMAN interview
>use your knowledge to ace FAGMAN interview
>get $200k+ job
>live with parents, be frugal and invest
It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.50270061]

>>50269934
Nigga I don’t have that kind of money for bachelors, college is overpriced garbage.

[Anonymous No.50270095]

or you can not be a fucking nerd and do it like i did

>start working as a line cook after high school at 18
>work hard all day, party hard after work
>fuck cute waitresses
>put away a $1000 every month into crypto/stocks
>marry the waitress you've been fucking
>start your own food truck with her
>turn over $1000 per day

[Anonymous No.50270147]

>>50269934
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151252.htm
1.36 million jobs, 90th percentile income is $168k/year ==> 136k jobs in the entire country that pay that much money, and this is a blend of entry level, mid level, and senior level roles. i'd be surprised if there were even 5k roles for $200k/year entry level positions in the country.

[Anonymous No.50270349]

>>50270147
Let's not forget how most are reserved for niggers, spics, trannies and LGTVs people.

[Anonymous No.50270680]

>>50269934
4.0 in cs is very hard. the amount of effort and that gpa you would be better off going to medical school and being a heart surgeon. most software employers dont care for gpa anyways. getting the fang interview is not easy. you need exeprience. nobody wants to hire a bs in cs no experience. been there. youre better off going to hack reactor or some quick school like that for a software job. fang interviews are very difficult. Have you even passed one leetcode medium or hard on your own?

t. bs and ms in cs and work in software

[Anonymous No.50270763]

>>50270095
turnover is not profit.
200k+ is close to 1k / working day gross.
and that's just for starters.

[Anonymous No.50270816]

>>50270763
i have 0 student debt, had over 150k saved up before i even started my business and i'm my own boss.
also your income is capped if you work for a corporation.

take the business pill

[Anonymous No.50270846]

>>50270095
I don’t care what anyone else says. This is based as fuck. Good on you anon

[Anonymous No.50270852]

>>50270147
And I thought every american software developer walked home with 500k each year! Do those numbers contain stock compensation?

[Anonymous No.50270888]

>>50270763
Doesn't matter. He has the drive to become a burger empire, you don't. You will always be at some tech manager's beck and call.

[Anonymous No.50270918]

>>50269934
My plan back in 2004.
Needles to say it didn't work out.

[Anonymous No.50270948]

>>50270918
What exactly went wrong?

[Anonymous No.50270951]

>>50269934
you dont need the connections, just get a decent resume and youll get the OA. youd be surprised at the number of trash resumes out there
>t. 200k new grad fagman

[Anonymous No.50270972]

>1 post by id
none of you are real

[Anonymous No.50270992]

>>50270095
>marry the waitress
anon for real?

[Anonymous No.50271004]

>>50270680
medical school:
>triple the debt and length of a bachelor's, much harder to earn a scholarship
>can't work from home
no thanks

[Anonymous No.50271029]

>>50270992
yeah, we were dating while working at the same restaurant for a total of 3 years before i told her about my plans to open up my own spot. i asked her to marry me and work on this thing together and she said yes and it's been going pretty good.

[Anonymous No.50271075]

>>50270948
Low IQ. Many such cases

[Anonymous No.50271124]

>>50270349
>LGTV people

What did he mean by this? I'm a Samsung TV, do I have a chance at being hired?

[Anonymous No.50271126]

>>50271029
How long have you been married?

[Anonymous No.50271154]

>>50271126
2 years

[Anonymous No.50271176]

>>50269934
>just make connections bro
i know this is a bait thread but please apply yourself

[Anonymous No.50271180]

>>50271154
Hell ya. Good for you

[Anonymous No.50271211]

>>50271004
you absolutley can work from home. its called telemed. Half of the people I know who got a bs in cs dont even have a job in cs. nobody hired them and they do stuff that doesnt require a degree. cs degree is like a law degree. if you go to a top 13 school then maybe garunteed job but its worse because the degree is not required. md is required to be a doctor. jd is requried to be a lawyer. just go to a boot camp school like hack reactor get experience and stop it with this cs degree nonsense

[Anonymous No.50271231]

>>50271180
Thanks bud. I suggest anyone that is young to take a leap of faith as well, where ever they may be at in life.

[Anonymous No.50271236]

>>50269934
This is literally what I did and have one million liquid in the bank at the age of 30.
Yes, I should invest, I'll probably buy up Bitcoin once it drops to $10k.

[Anonymous No.50271257]

>interest on unsubsidized federal loans is compounded DAILY
>so 4.5% interest isn't 4.5% interest
>if you take out 12500 in unsubbed loans you'd think it would be about 13100 at the end of the year
>but it can actually be like 19000 dollars
This is why the system is broken, why is the US government giving fucking AWFUL loan terms? 20% annual interest for NON-DAILY compounding from a private bank is better than this fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.50271274]

>>50271124
>samsung faggotry

[Anonymous No.50271285]

>>50271257
>4.5
mine are like 6% average. consider yourself lucky. kek.
t. 30 year old boomer

[Anonymous No.50271289]

>>50270951
Yeah but you're the guy on here who brags about how you did multiple internships in california while in school.

[Anonymous No.50271303]

>>50271231
You're 25, your whole business needs to account for declining demand during the recession. Leaps of faith are easy when free money floods the market.

[Anonymous No.50271317]

>>50271154
Congrats homie
You have my encouragement
>>50271211
This isn’t a bad take
You won’t work on new computer hardware or be the head algo architect, but if you have the ability to code, have a portfolio, and understand software design patterns, you have a pretty good chance of getting a job. Doubly so if you do something like tech support or whatever for experience while building your portfolio

[Anonymous No.50271322]

>>50271285
Daily compounding interest means those interest rates are meaningless, as the final money you have to pay back at the end of the year is exceedingly greater. It's literally jewish tricks by the government.

[Anonymous No.50271341]

>>50271257
4.5% APR with daily compound interest is 4.602% APY retard

[Anonymous No.50271431]

>>50271029
Every man digs his own grave I guess. Mine won't be a woman, but probably my lack of motivation and constant need for relaxing

[Anonymous No.50271532]

>>50271154
If you don't already have at least one child, you're failing.

[Anonymous No.50271589]

>>50271532
how am i failing.

[Anonymous No.50271613]

>>50269934
>Working for the most evil corporations in the world
>He thinks he's made it
You will regret what you've done for a buck come judgement day.

[Anonymous No.50271638]

>>50270095
Based as fuck, although turnover is vanity profit is sanity

[Anonymous No.50271788]

>>50270095
>marry the waitress you've been fucking
things codeniggers will never experience

[Anonymous No.50271849]

>>50269934
im adhd and my country has no good prescriptions for it, basically i need copious amounts of illegal adderall just to be focused enough to study without getting distracted every 5 minutes. what am i supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.50271869]

>>50271849
im reiging it in by overdosing on caffeine but this shit cant he healthy. adhd bros what do, the medicine prescribed for it here is useless. i need the strong stuff.

[Anonymous No.50271944]

>>50271849
Basically this when I was working from home. Was quite unreal at first, but gets out of hand real quick if you let it. Honestly only way I can stay focused on work is if I have a pushy boss, deadlines ..etc

[Anonymous No.50272290]

>>50271849
adhd doesn't exist. just be more disciplined

[Anonymous No.50272302]

>>50269934
you should have explained this to me when i was 12 and also kidnapped me from my parent's household and gave me a proper upbringing

[Anonymous No.50272322]

>>50271322
midwit

[Anonymous No.50272328]

>>50272290
lol i fucking wish

[Anonymous No.50272380]

>>50270147
That’s because that BLS data only counts salary, it doesn’t look at “TC” which is what software niggers brag about. They get a 120k salary and 800k in stock options which doesn’t show up

[Anonymous No.50272381]

>>50269934
>major in CS at decent uni
nope
>maintain 4.0
see above
>grind leetcode throughout
grinded it for about 3 months before my interview
>intern
nope
>make connections
YES. this is what i did in college, literally just hung out with nerds.
>graduate with 4.0
never graduated
>use connections to get FAGMAN interview
yes
>use your knowledge to ace FAGMAN interview
yes
>get $200k+ job
i wish. not for entry level atleast.
>live with parents, be frugal and invest
yes.

[Anonymous No.50272385]

>>50269934
Yet you did none of it

[Anonymous No.50272393]

>>50269934
>Buy chainlink when it was only .25 cents
>Have a 10k stack
>Just chill, smoke weed, watch anime, gamble on crypto casinos
>Staking comes out
>Make it
>Laugh at wagies while I'm traveling and banging.

It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.50272451]

>>50270095
Yeah have to agree this is pretty based

[Anonymous No.50272473]

>>50272393
>didnt sell at $50
>still holding
>waiting for staking
lmaooooo oh nononono

[Anonymous No.50272669]

>>50270095
well done, self employed chads will rule the world

[Anonymous No.50273029]

>>50269934
>be disciplined, have >100 IQ and study hard
If this was "simple" we would already be an interplanetary species.
I have a job where I basically see all levels of societies (maybe outside the mega rich) and most people can't even maintain a basic healthy lifestyle.

>>50270680
Lol a dev works NOWHERE near as many hours as a surgeon, the liability isn't even close either, neither is the freedom.
Btw surgery isn't hard at all to get for a med student, thr most competitive specs are the "lifestyle" ones aka opthalmology or dermatology where you can do a fuckton of money with little work.

[Anonymous No.50273071]

>>50269934
>make connections
>graduate with 4.0

[Anonymous No.50273125]

>>50269934
Okay but what do I do if I'm a 37 year old college drop out?

[Anonymous No.50273279]

>>50271869
Reduce caffeine intake. ADHD symptoms can sometimes be triggered by anxiety or schizoid thoughts, personally I find smoking a 50/50 CBD hemp/tobacco spliff once a day (no more) can help level me out. If that doesn't work try ordering Modafinil from india, much longer-lasting and less addictive than Adderall.

[Anonymous No.50273348]

>>50273029
>Lol a dev works NOWHERE near as many hours as a surgeon
this isnt true. Ive been working 14 hours a day for the past 3 weeks straight to meet a deadline. work from home means you are always in the office. doctors can negotiate their hours easier than an easily replaced dev can. surgeons make easily half a million to a million a year

[Anonymous No.50273419]

>>50273348
surgeons work the longest hours of any medical specialty, in professional practice and ESPECIALLY during residency. residency programs cap it at 80 hours a week averaged over a 4 week period (i believe) but most surgical residents routinely violate this rule "under the table" because it would shitcan their medical career if they spoke up. you have no idea what you're talking about.

t. med school dropout

[Anonymous No.50273521]

>>50273419
sure I agree during residency they get a ton of hours for low pay. But after residency and full blown surgeon status they have negotiating power between hospitals to get thier hours down. they can become a part time surgeon if they really want to

I did all the pre med requirements and CS. I have a bs and ms in cs and now a dev. I have doctor friends. so I do know the better path and its doctor. Just choose the right specialty. If you dont get the residency you want then go army or navy and be a generic flight or sub doc or whatever until you get your residency of choice

[Anonymous No.50273672]

>>50273419
why did you drop med school? too difficult?

[Anonymous No.50273866]

>>50270095
extremely based

>>50270763
he owns his own business his income can scale
while you are maxed out on earnings potential unless you play the office politics game
owners will always outperform wagies on average

[Anonymous No.50273942]

>>50273348
You are dumb if you are working that many hours unless you work for a hedge fund or something. Or you you lack the confidence to push back on things.

[Anonymous No.50273955]

>>50273672
realized after one semester that I hated it and it was dreadfully boring, difficult, and that it wasn't going to get any easier or better or less time consuming. undergrad cell/molec bio was cool as hell. memorizing thousands of powerpoint slides per month wasn't.

[Anonymous No.50273969]

>>50273521
Grass is greener fallacy.

The right path depends on a persons interests.

[Anonymous No.50274049]

>>50272381
Are you a woman or URM or tranny?

[Anonymous No.50274064]

>>50270095
Of course you married her because you had nothing to lose. Us codenuggers for the most part aren’t in debt and in fact have a good savings. I’d say average one of us has about 50k their first year or two after hard drugs at uni. That’s the number ifor those of us who don’t invest. I’ve had friends my age reach 100-250kz not me though, but some especially women get to that easy. So like I said, of course you married her. You have nothing to lose. One day she will find a Chad regardless if you ever get comfortable and she sees that. It starts with her trying to make you feel beta or stupid any chance she gets-when you see her start to justify her negative actions or feelings that’s when you know it’s over and should move forward accordingly before she knows you know what’s up. Good luck on the marriage tho bro.

[Anonymous No.50274376]

>>50273942
when I stopped working so hard at my last job and did 40 hours a week I got laid off. devs are easily replaceable

>>50273955
are you gonna get a PhD then? Pathology residency after MD could of been for you

[Anonymous No.50274406]

>>50274376
i went back to school for accounting and now im an accountant. boring but it's easy and pays a tolerable wage for 20-30 hours a week of real work.

[Anonymous No.50275087]

>>50274376
>I stopped working so hard at my last job and did 40 hours a week I got laid off
You’re probably a midwit and not efficient at working. How many YOE do you have in industry? How long have you been programming for and what is your aptitude for the subject? What tier company do you work for? Are you’re coworkers super try hard?

[Anonymous No.50275308]

>>50269934
you are missing out one thing. Coding and especially leetcode is the most miserable shit on this planet. Its why they get paid so much.

[Anonymous No.50275341]

>>50271788
>get cheated on by the ex-waitress whore you fucked casually a few times before marrying
>get divorce raped
things programmers will never experience

[Anonymous No.50275399]

>>50270095
This is more or less what I did but with crypto
Haven't quite made it yet but I encourage you guys to do the same, don't be a doomer

[Anonymous No.50275438]

>>50275341
>Programmers will never experience divorce rape
Uhhh have you met any of them?

>>50270888
Checked

[Anonymous No.50275466]

>>50271589
cuz you're larping on 4chan
wake up
you don't have a gf or a business

[Anonymous No.50275477]

>>50269934
I tried this, got my bachelors around 2015, interviewed at a few different companies like robinhood, microsoft, amazon, google, failed all of them in the 1st or 2nd round. I'm shit at algorithms and data structures and leetcode but that's all they interview for, I'm pretty good at hooking up libraries and doing business logic and maintaining code over time which is 99% of the job.
Eventually I got a job at mid tier tech company for $72k/year because their interview wasn't hard, got promoted within my first year and after a few more years worked my way up to senior developer making $94k base plus benefits and something like 4% retirement matching.
It's shit compared to the industry and it sucks because I know I'm too low IQ to get $200k+ positions.
I have one coworker and his wife works at microsoft and she makes something insane like $250k+ base salary for basically just traveling around and talking about their product, it's retarded.

Maybe I can transition into some kind of management role and get into a high paying position that way, but I'm socially autisitic as well. I have pretty low base stats and I'd probably be working a grocery store or something if I didn't put them all into computers. c'est la vie

[Anonymous No.50275808]

You chuds are doing the 2005-2012 meme of going into CS
It's about data science and cybersecurity now

[Anonymous No.50276762]

>>50275808
>You chuds are doing the 2005-2012 meme of going into CS
I'm 6 years deep in the coding meme. 10, if you count the degree.

I'm about to parlay over to product manager meme land. What stands out to you about DS and cybersecurity. DS seems less defined than SWE (in a good way); I don't know what a cybersec person would actually be doing in most companies.

In our company, they just seemed to run some fairly basic trainings, internal phishing attempts, etc. Seemed easy
Any coding at all? or what?

[Anonymous No.50277028]

>>50269934
I did the CS meme degree and got an entry level job but it is soul crushing, I always wanted to do something in the arts, had my eyes on being a concept artist for video games but my entire family pressured me into STEM. I have a job that pays below the average but don't have the motivation to job hop and keep lying between my teeth about how much I enjoy the work. How do I not kill myself in the next 5-10 years?

[Anonymous No.50277063]

>smart enough for software eng but got memed into boomer engineering
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.50278480]

>>50277028
>How do I not kill myself in the next 5-10 years?
Do what I'm doing: switch to product management.

Are there less roles? ya, but I figure it's worth it and once you're in the club, you're IN

[Anonymous No.50279907]

>>50269934
i see you mention no boob touching

[Anonymous No.50279917]

>>50278480
PM are very stressful roles.

[Anonymous No.50280029]

>>50278480
PM has to work with people and those people will hate you and laugh at you once they realize you have no proper programming experience and know jack shit about things you are trying to reason about.

[Anonymous No.50280077]

>>50270349
Theres no niggers earning that much unless they are sportsball player. Spics are lucky to earn more than 20k a year. Trannies dont work.

[Anonymous No.50280083]

>>50269934
So basically
>just be born rich and smart bro

[Anonymous No.50280133]

>>50279917
>PM are very stressful roles.
Not at every company. I've seen some of this for sure, but my PM mentor at my last company said it barely felt like working

I'm also way more interested in engaging in the activity of managing a product strategy/execution than coding. I actually wouldn't mind doing more of it per day. Right now, I produce legitimately nearly zero code

That is, I'd rather "improve the airport experience" than "make sure the metal detector works really quickly"

[Anonymous No.50280161]

>>50280029
>PM has to work with people and those people will hate you and laugh at you once they realize you have no proper programming experience
Not sure where you got this idea.

I have a ton more experience with hands on experience with coding than many product managers I've met. At any level from startup to Google, you have PMs with zero technical skills/coding experience. They don't even pretend to, as it's not necessary for the role.

PM doesn't need to know how to code. I've been around teams for 6 years and know what development looks like at least; I know what's possible and how to hang out, even if I'm not a strong IC myself

[Anonymous No.50280448]

>>50270095
I'm a 27 years old ricecel KHV NEET, I've never talked to women (aside from my immediate family members) more than 30 minutes in my entire life. At this point I just think that I'd better not reproduce and stay single for the rest of my life. I just can't imagine myself working with a woman, let alone spent the rest of my life living with one as my wife.

[Anonymous No.50280949]

>>50275477
>I have one coworker and his wife works at microsoft and she makes something insane like $250k+ base salary for basically just traveling around and talking about their product, it's retarded.

Sales-Stacies are the pinnacle of post industrial human evolution. Don't hate the player, hate the game.