How Decentralized is Web 3.0

[Anonymous No.50209594]

Is Web 3.0 fully decentralized? What do you think differentiates it with the Metaverse of Zucker's Meta? Because there are some loopholes in Terra Luna, Solana and so many others out there were exposed? Can we trust Web 3.0 to be really decentralized? If you don't have facts and figures, get the fuck out of here, boomers.

[Anonymous No.50209700]

>>50209594
Everything that’s in the bundle of web 3 applications is not web3. You still are using centralized cloud services and can’t even put full applications on those chains. There’s only one chain that performing actual web3 development. I don’t even need to say the name since you faggots are in denial

[Anonymous No.50209702]

>>50209594
Web3 is still in its early stage, in fact, it's still web2, the main web3 is yet to be implemented, but for how long are we going to wait for it?

[Anonymous No.50209733]

>>50209700
Exactly my point here>>50209702

[Anonymous No.50209745]

>>50209702
By saying that, are you telling me Bitcoin, Ethereum and the rest aren't Web 3.0 based? How can you clarify that, pleb?

[Anonymous No.50209811]

>>50209702
>in fact, it's still web2, the main web3 is yet to be implemented,

>>50209702
Polkadot and its parachains, Kusama. These are powerful Web 3.0 projects enabling other technical projects such as Subsquid, the graph and others to index the Web 3.0 data. You can say Web 3.0 is just starting and it's in its early stages yeah, but you've lost it by saying otherwise, you little pajeet.

[Anonymous No.50209849]

>>50209811
Do any of those currencies you mentioned use centralized cloud hosting services? To my knowledge every single one of them does and any app developed for those chains aren’t even 100% on chain. Therefore not web3

[Anonymous No.50209878]

>>50209745
Well, yes and no
BTC & ETH are not the only crypto, so if they both occupy 30% of the overall market, others that have over 70% makes them less web3, that'w why you need more hands on deck to make it to the real web3

[Anonymous No.50209879]

>>50209700
who, which

[Anonymous No.50209902]

>>50209849
That's another angle

[Anonymous No.50210014]

>>50209594
It's facts and figures and I'm not going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.50210030]

>>50209700
Polkadot

[Anonymous No.50210061]

>>50209849
So name your shitcoin

[Anonymous No.50210065]

>>50210030
See>>50209849

[Anonymous No.50210077]

>>50209811
The data indexers are one of the major determinants of the reality of a full web3.

[Anonymous No.50210079]

>>50209700
Say it you coward. Say it let's hear it.

[Anonymous No.50210100]

>>50210061
I literally don’t have to and won’t since most of biz is in denial about it. You should know what it is anyway. There’s literally only one coin that offers decentralized cloud hosting and offer complete on chain development. If you don’t know what it is then tough shit faggot

[Anonymous No.50210135]

>>50209849
What the fuck is Web 3.0 then? Give an example and shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.50210138]

>>50210079
Nah go fuck your self

[Anonymous No.50210145]

>>50210077
Yes, but only few project offers such services, I know of grt & subsquid, but can the two handle the matter on ground?

[Anonymous No.50210146]

>>50210135
Web 3 is a decentralized internet you fucking twat.

[Anonymous No.50210168]

>>50209878
But they are Web 3.0. Is anything wrong in saying that?

[Anonymous No.50210197]

>>50210077
Data indexing services need to be fully decentralized though. In order to fully offer Web 3.0 services in my humble opinion

[Anonymous No.50210210]

>>50210146
That's the fucking twat asks you to give a fucking example. What's difficult to understand.

[Anonymous No.50210225]

i already dont trust google etc with my personal data

why the fuck am i going to trust a bunch of techbro browsers who fall for crypto ponzi schemes and use any service these retards create?

almost as fucking embarrassing as metaverse and crypto gaming

[Anonymous No.50210243]

>>50210146
I don't believe there's a decentralized Internet. It doesn't exist. Take 4chan for example, my IP is enough to get me exposed.

[Anonymous No.50210259]

>>50209702
we need anonymity in smart contracts. hopefully secret network don't fail this.

[Anonymous No.50210264]

>>50210225
Metaverse is under Web 3.0. Believe it or not, it's your stupid opinion

[Anonymous No.50210266]

>>50210210
I literally gave you the whole description of the example of the coin. It’s fussed here all the time he’ll there’s at least 3 fud threads on it right now. I don’t need to say it since you have the means to easily figure it out

[Anonymous No.50210286]

>>50210243
Already being built but you faggots will deny and ignore it until 3-5 years from now

[Anonymous No.50210289]

>>50210264

nobody gives a shit fag, it will not be adopted by anyone except the aforementioned snake oil salesman and idiots like you who hope to be early adopters to the next big thing so you no longer have to work at mcdonalds

[Anonymous No.50210310]

>>50210286

this delusion is so cringe LOL

[Anonymous No.50210360]

>>50210259
Yesterday, one pleb was arguing with me on this board that railgun is a better privacy project than your fucking secret, how true is that anon?

[Anonymous No.50210390]

>>50210360
It's a secret

[Anonymous No.50210450]

>>50210197
Don't you think that subsquid is decentralized enough?

[Anonymous No.50210482]

>>50210390
Can you prove me wrong?

[Anonymous No.50210483]

>>50209594
web3 is the future but not just yet

[Anonymous No.50210516]

>>50209700
>>50209733
>>50209879
>>50210030
>>50210079
Its Avalanche (ticker $AVAX)

[Anonymous No.50210540]

>>50209702
I think a few projects are developing for developing for web3 , i so many on them in Polkadot decoded, finally it happened in my city

[Anonymous No.50210549]

>>50209702
What do you mean? Web3 has started, and many folks are talking about web35 as we speak. I agree that web3 is still growing though.

[Anonymous No.50210563]

>>50209811
I heard about this one when they helped Kusama to scale

[Anonymous No.50210568]

>>50210450
It is IMO. That's one good web3-based scaler I know.

[Anonymous No.50210599]

>>50210077
I think this is what excited me about web3, projects can scale a lot, not fucking slow

[Anonymous No.50210600]

>>50209811
Data Indexing is such a big deal in the web3 space but I will take The graph over the others in your list anon.

[Anonymous No.50210625]

>>50210516
No it’s not. Avax is a roach coin and is hosted on centralized cloud hosting platforms. You can’t even put full applications on chain for avax either. So nope try again

[Anonymous No.50210627]

>>50210600
I would prefer the new squid engine ov er them , is just they are doing it multichain at the moment

[Anonymous No.50210638]

>>50209700
its ICP, isn’t it

[Anonymous No.50210647]

>>50210516
they must be enjoying from the money they rug pulled and called it hack, shitload project and I have lost so much coz of them

[Anonymous No.50210700]

>>50210135
You stop fucking being Elon musk, I will be pushing some solid sperm dirt on you

[Anonymous No.50210785]

>>50210627
I think moonbeam and moon river is banking on them, they have one of the fastest engines around.

[Anonymous No.50210809]

>>50210568
Yea, I know it to be so, therecent launch of their firesquid is going to be a huge success to web3 projects because of the data speed and low cost of maintenance

[Anonymous No.50210827]

>>50210638
Yep

[Anonymous No.50210828]

>>50209594
why don't you stick to BTC and eth anon, it is still the best way around.

[Anonymous No.50210882]

>>50210225
They have breached so much data already, This is why I think decentralization is the way out

[Anonymous No.50210916]

>>50210145
when are they going to have TGE, I have been waiting for a while now

[Anonymous No.50210931]

Web 3 is the new buzzword shitcoiners use to justify their existence. Before it was smart contracts then defi, all promise decentralization and world peace and deliver nothing more than jpegs on the blockchain

[Anonymous No.50210969]

>>50210145
There's also Oracle, it's doing a good job.

[Anonymous No.50211004]

>>50210969
what about web3? and powerful APIs

[Anonymous No.50211019]

>>50210450
>subsquid
I was at the just concluded Polkadot Decoded and saw the amazing cutting-edge tech these guys presented, I think they call it Firefly.

[Anonymous No.50211058]

>>50210225
I think this is the whole reason for decentralization.

[Anonymous No.50211083]

>>50209594
dont know a single one of those faggot logos. nope. seems pretty shit
seems like linux. you know, complete garbage. nothing specialized, all generalized, no real focus nor anything actually working in any of them, but there being a lot of them. good job w/ fucking up the internet. you should and must you are a cancer you are yes?

[Anonymous No.50211100]

>>50210264
with the prospects of global adoption that the metaverse holds, if it is not made decentralized, it will be way worse than this existing data breach we are suffering.

[Anonymous No.50211115]

>>50210145
Subquery as well. They are literally very few. But that's a tough question that needs to be answered

[Anonymous No.50211186]

>>50210627
What's up with their new engine? Something to watch out for?

[Anonymous No.50211247]

>>50211100
The metaverse is dieing. You better wake up to reality.

[Anonymous No.50211739]

>>50211019
It's called Firesquid dummy, The data indexing speed numbers are quite impressive if they deliver.

[Anonymous No.50211750]

>>50210030
It is fair to say that Polkadot has been more active when it comes to web3 events and its development.

[Anonymous No.50211793]

>>50210600
Probably because it is well known? You might be making a big mistake

[Anonymous No.50211803]

>>50211058
Yeah, if it is held by many then it cannot be easily stolen.

[Anonymous No.50211816]

>>50210563
Indexing Kusama in 15 minutes with up to 50k blocks per second is a powerful task

[Anonymous No.50211836]

>>50210931
At least people are coming up with cool ideas on how to use the jpegs.

[Anonymous No.50211851]

>>50211750
This is so because of its interoperabilty features. And Cosmos as well. Massive ecosystems there

[Anonymous No.50211855]

>>50211019
That conference showed that Polkadot will definitely be a big player in web3.

[Anonymous No.50211857]

>>50211739
Indexing Kusama in 15 minutes at 50block/sec was mind-blowing to me. Why is everyone on biztard not talking about this yet?

[Anonymous No.50211867]

>>50210916
Sit your ass down and wait for the market to recover dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.50211903]

>>50211857
Because everybody is not a retarded dev like you.

[Anonymous No.50211921]

>>50211855
Will be? Polkadot is already a driving force in regards to web3 adoption, the ecosystem boost of strong web3 protocols. Get your head in line and stop thinking like a dummy.

[Anonymous No.50211940]

>>50211857
You won't like it when everyone starts talking about it. Most people in the biz do not value it and just want to make money. They don't look out for shitcoins.

[Anonymous No.50211984]

>>50211867
I don't think it is wise to launch anything now. The ambassadorship program has kept the community quite busy at the moment.

[Anonymous No.50211987]

Syscon's ZK-rollups are being perceived as one of the most promising scalability mechanisms, pushing the industry to new heights

[Anonymous No.50212267]

>>50211921
That is if the government doesn't shut down the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.50212286]

>>50211984
Only a few of these ambassador programs actually are fun.

[Anonymous No.50212306]

>>50211984
Only a few of these ambassador programs actually are fun desu

[Anonymous No.50212383]

>>50210540
Ou, how come you couldn't attend?
Subsquid team where there, that was where they unveil their new product; 'firesquid'

>>50210549
What proove do you have that web3 has started when many projects are still suffering from decentralization?

[Anonymous No.50212699]

>>50209594
>facts and figures
Fuck off I'm not spoon feeding you.

>Is web3 fully decentralized?
This is a nonsensical statement. It's like asking, "is this water fully hot?". Decentralization is a pseudo metric. You can define it as something like a node capture measurement, 'how many independent nodes of this system would I need to capture in order to attack it'.

>Terra/Luna loopholes
They were basically unregulated and uninsured banks. These are actually good things, and eventually you will have smart and talented actors forming financial dynasties out of these systems that are capable of competing with our current gay nationstates. Hopefully the winners wont be faggots themselves.

>Web3
Vague as fuck. Means different things to different people. Is IPFS web3? It is a protocol and not a system of nodes. I would call it web3, just like ICANN and autonomous systems are web2.

There is a stupidly large amount of work yet to be done to fully realize an internet that is not coercible and censored. We probably are going to need totally new physical routers, hopefully self hosted like the helium network half-scam. We are probably going to need to fork QUIC and adjust it for pubkey systems and put in some anti ddos measures. We need a new namesystem, which thankfully is being done now with ENS and SNS and friends. There is a huge explosion of data storage protocols and servers, still not even close to what we need yet. I am bearish on stuff like arweave and filecoin, I dont think it has the potential to actually scale. I am bullish on smart sharding designs, I think that a chain designed with state sharding in mind can serve as both storage and server. We still need actually private communication and packet metadata obfuscation that works better than TOR, otherwise we are dead in the water. Just a fuckton of work that only a tiny portion of people are even thinking about or working on.

[Anonymous No.50212850]

>>50212306
But I think this particular one is cool, my friend joined the program last week, and he's yet to qualify, and they are promising rewards for those who participate

[Anonymous No.50212950]

>>50212383
It has started not that it has come to its full actualization. Web3 is just a baby.

[Anonymous No.50212969]

>>50211903
The only person that's retarded here is you. You can't even identify a good tech when you see one.

[Anonymous No.50213030]

>>50211940
This is not a shit project you faggot. Do yourself some good by making good use of the internet.

[Anonymous No.50213067]

>>50211857
how many megabytes is a "block"

[Anonymous No.50213229]

>>50209594

it's going to be a long fucking time before full utilization. BNS aren't even standardized yet. Not enough participation from normies to get paid to validate and secure a network. The sad part is that Web3 wont be decentralized because of the previous point I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.50213461]

>>50213229
What's your previous point? Are you talking about regulation? You just a post here anon.

[Anonymous No.50214123]

>>50212286
Yeah! But ambassador's programs are fun and a good way to keep projects alive and running.

[Anonymous No.50214717]

>>50209594
Polygon will have a good run long term senpai.

[Anonymous No.50215312]

>>50209594
the difference between web3 and web2 is that web3 is completely fucking useless and a waste of time. its only good for making retards rich by scamming bigger retards

[Anonymous No.50215421]

>>50209594
Unironically the only decentralized option for web3 and corporate usage of this tech is ICP.
ICP's protocol itself isn't yet as decentralized as some would hope, but in practice it is more decentralized than everything else for a simple reason, everything else runs on AWS. If you understand that centralization is a spectrum and some points in the spectrum are better than others you should have no issue understanding web3's value proposition, it's more centralized than BTC, it's less centralized than AWS.

[Anonymous No.50215550]

>>50214717
It's polygon and Polkadot for me. Their structure has been amazing and I don't see them stopping anytime soon. lots of projects on them like MustCometh, Acala, Subsquid, and Moonbeam are doing great.

[Anonymous No.50216035]

>>50215421
ICP is dying and retards as you will likely go down with it if you don't wake to reality. Many other good projects like Graph and Subquid are now more innovative than the rest.

[Anonymous No.50216509]

>>50212950
Yes, more development is needed, that's why Subsquid are playing their part to offer data indexing services

[Anonymous No.50217887]

how many storages is a "block" though
because indexing is already VERY quick. "every page on the internet every 0.3s quick" quick i mean

[Anonymous No.50217985]

why arent you fucking retarded faggots answering the simple question you con-artist fucks bitches and snakes? you really know nothing and youre just shitting out buzzwords arent you? i bet you say "decentralized" 20 times a day. you should kill yourself and make the world a better place in doing so you worthless fuck you total and utter cretin and nothing else but bad things in trace amounts but largely just scummy scammy stupid degenerative fucks huh

[Anonymous No.50218471]

fucking degenerate cockroaches