Is being a doctor worth it?

[Anonymous No.49820496]

If you become a doctor in the U.S, you'll become a millionaire, that is a mathematical certainty, but 10 years of schooling is no walk in the park.

I am an 18-year-old zoomer, and if I become a physician, I would feel like I would have missed out on a lot by the time I am 30. What's the point of being wealthy if that wealth is acquired by the time I'm a 40-50-year-old bald fool, with nothing to show except a diploma and a lot of money in the bank.

[Anonymous No.49820542]

bump

[Anonymous No.49820555]

>>49820496
People become doctors for the status, not the money. You will be in too much debt to ever be really wealthy.

[Anonymous No.49820604]

People live longer now.

Age 40 today is like age 30 in our parents and grandparents generation desu.

[Anonymous No.49820629]

>>49820496
The opportunity cost of delaying work for 10 years for the med school debt is definitely not worth it

[Anonymous No.49820645]

>>49820604
cope

[Anonymous No.49820667]

>>49820629
>t. retard

[Anonymous No.49820669]

>>49820496
A general doctor in the USA does a lot of basic things some of which are disgusting.

Are you willing to look at diseased penises and vaginas? Are you willing to stick a gloved finger up a person's butt to check for hemorrhoids?

[Anonymous No.49820675]

>>49820555
That's not even remotely true. Many doctors chose to become doctors because they love helping people, it's a career in which you heal other people's problems. And many doctors trust fund babies. I do see where you're coming from though, someone without a wealthy family would be in a lot of debt, however, that debt could be cleared by working really hard for one year,

[Anonymous No.49820832]

>>49820496
You can be 30 with a medical degree or 30 without it. Which would you rather be?

[Anonymous No.49820836]

>>49820496
These are truly the words of a 18 year old.
Forget your fantasies about life. Your whole reasoning both ways. Nonsense created by an experienced and young mind.

Only real question: are you cut out to be a MD? Are you passionate about it? And can you afford it?
You are 18 so you propably have no clue who you are or what you want. What you think is you is just trash pressed into your brain by society and your childlike thoughts. Let me guess you figured it all out, you want: money and pussy… true child of neo liberalism…
Anyway, find out if you cut out for it. Otherwise you will drop out or be a miserable millionaire.

t. A 43 year old physician in Europe

[Anonymous No.49820865]

>>49820496
if you want to make a shitton of money there's better ways to do it than becoming a doctor. Are you a minority? Also "becoming a millionaire" is a very low bar basically anyone with half a brain will reach that status by their 30s and definitely their 40s.

[Anonymous No.49821264]

I'm a doctor in the US. It is a very difficult and time consuming career, particularly during training which you will finish around 29-34. You can make a lot of money but at the end of the day you're selling your time like any other job. If you can handle the rigorous training to become a doctor, you could probably make more money in a different field... but no guarantees.

[Anonymous No.49821269]

>>49820496
Doctors have shitty work life balance. Unless you like medicine don't do it.

[Anonymous No.49821387]

Be a dentist instead t. dentist

[Anonymous No.49821422]

>>49820496
Not a certainty, because gotta pay back the loans and if you are shitty, you don’t get the gwon.

[Anonymous No.49821449]

>>49820865
>Also "becoming a millionaire" is a very low bar basically anyone with half a brain will reach that status by their 30s and definitely their 40s
your inflated mortgage does not make you a millionaire dumbass. if you ever sell your home, you're going to have to buy a new one anyways.

[Anonymous No.49821541]

>>49820836
>These are truly the words of a 18 year old.
This. The sites required age should be >25 years old.

[Anonymous No.49821566]

>>49820555
This. Med school is beyond expensive and it’ll take an extreme toll on you mentally and you’ll barely have any time to enjoy yourself until you’re in your 60’s.

[Anonymous No.49821606]

>>49820496
a lot of competition to get into med school. then more competition to get the residency you want. best thing to do is this: go to a community college and ace every hard science class. take no more than 10 units a semester. do summer classes. now you transfer to a university after 4.0 gpa at 21. during your time in community college find some hot nerd pre med chick to be your gf. preferably older so u can get tests from her. alternativley u could audit classes before taking them. then transfer to a university that has an easy major. get all Bs at least. so now you have a 3.5-4.0 gpa at graduation. take time off to volunteer at a hospital front desk while u study for mcat. do well on mcat. apply and get into med school. once youre a med student just graduate. then join miltiary as a doctor in navy or army. for 2 -3 years youll be a flight surgeon or something basic. then you can get any residency u want: derm etc whatever. finish it out and then get out as a veteran making cash. remember though most women prefer guys their own age and max 4 years difference. dont expect to be banging 18 yr old sluts at 44 unless u pay for it

[Anonymous No.49821612]

>>49820629
>He never heard of those Carribean/South American island doctor schools.
They fast track it in those programs but the education is typically shit but if you past the test you past the test. Living in FL, I have peers and met 10+ people that did the island schooling.

[Anonymous No.49821643]

>>49820555
Yeah, they spread all that vaxx propaganda for the Status

[Anonymous No.49821648]

Should I go to med school in my mid 20s? Could work in the US as early 30s with no debt.

OP go for it if you think its right.

[Anonymous No.49821680]

>>49820496
Healthcare is completely compromised now. They'll just rugpull you with mandated vax horseshit.

[Anonymous No.49821700]

>>49821648
the average age for 1st year med students in america is 24, so its not like you'd be behind. Unless you haven't done your bachelors degree or whatever the equivalent is in your country.

[Anonymous No.49821723]

>>49820496
>If you become a doctor in the U.S, you'll become a millionaire
100% wrong. Doctors and squander their money just like anybody else.

[Anonymous No.49821745]

>>49821387
Dentists have the highest suicide rate in medicine.

[Anonymous No.49821837]

>>49821648
no

[Anonymous No.49821883]

>>49821606
holy fucking based.

[Anonymous No.49821901]

>>49821837
give reasons nigger.

[Anonymous No.49821910]

>>49820496
it's not worth at all too much work with way too much debt

[Anonymous No.49821942]

>>49821901
in your mid twenties you should be done with most of your education. From here on out only an MBA or PHD are worth it.

[Anonymous No.49822092]

>>49820496
>be retard doctor
>have to literally grind through 90 patients/week
>get 40$/patient
>insurance constantly fucking you up the ass and lowering your visit payment
>insurance constantly asking for more paper work
>insurance constantly delaying payment, as much as 3 months later
>just do procedures and diagnostics, bro!
>patient comes in for upset stomach
>you diagnose it as constipation
>turns out it’s stage 4 cancer
>sues the fuck out of you
>nurses calling you every night till you’re 80 cuz your patient needs colace or lidocaine cuz he’s running 12-beat vtach (it’s random)
>but but you make 400k

Yeah cuz you’re a literal drug pusher and failed covid.

[Anonymous No.49822158]

>>49820645
It's true. I'm 39 and I feel about 25 or something. I still get asked for my id when buying alcohol or cigarettes sometimes. Only thing I've noticed is I put weight on a lot easier now

[Anonymous No.49822203]

>>49821612
good luck getting residency with these offshore schools. half dont match and most matches are to family med that pays half of what derm does and a fourth of what cardio surgeons make. only go to an offshore that garuntees residency match maybe ross?

[Anonymous No.49822244]

All doctors are psychopaths except some general practitioners.

[Anonymous No.49822249]

>>49822203
I dont think you can join military doc as new grad offshore MD and you cant be a weed doctor /prescribe without a residency if its an offshore school. if you have onshore u can be a weed doc and no residency

[Anonymous No.49822288]

>>49821942
average age 1st year in US is 24.
>in your mid twenties you should be done with most of your education.

Huh?
Also its still a good investment given one wants to work for decades in the field.

[Anonymous No.49822296]

>>49821264
>>49820865
Holy shit so many Pajeets on this board. We know only Pajeets Jews and Chinks are doctors.

[Anonymous No.49822298]

>>49821648
don't listen to that retard, if you have reasons to do it then do it, it depends on your objective. just think about the consequences of each action and also the alternatives, do you want a upper-middle class life? do you want to be rich? do you want status? pussy? do you want to do what you like? what is it?, there's no problem going for a med degree in your mid 20's if it fits with your goals

[Anonymous No.49822340]

Yeah you get to sniff and touch girls vaginas and buttholes

[Anonymous No.49822399]

>>49820675
lmao wrong. hardly any do it to “help” people. you must be a fucking doctor. go murder someone due to negligence and then sweep it under the rug. or go rape a nurse. most of them do one or the other.

[Anonymous No.49822445]

You could've had a healthy diet, exercised daily and taken care of your family but no you come to me to get a Brazilian butt lifting because youve seen my TikTok video. Docs unite <3

[Anonymous No.49822516]

>>49820604
Life expectancies are dropping. Our grandparents generation were probably the longest-lived humans. Unless you're uber-wealthy and have access to blood transfusions from children and shit like that you're going to rot from chronic illness and microplastics in your gut until you die around 70, if you're lucky. "muh life expectancies and medical breakthroughs" are a meme for the vast majority of people to help them cope with their garbage lives and the impossibility of timely retirement.

[Abe No.49822532]

>>49820496
You could be 30 having missed out on everything and be poor with no hope of retirement. Just go to med school Anon.

[Anonymous No.49822558]

you're going to be old regardless of what your job is, you might as well be a rich old man instead of a poor old man. Women are so fucking money hungry that they'll adore you just for being a doctor no matter what you look like

[Anonymous No.49822590]

>>49820496
Blowing money as a 20 something will get old very quickly. The point of wealth isn't to be a hedonist, it's to be free and to accomplish things.
You need more money as a 30-40-50 years old than as a 20 something.

[Anonymous No.49822591]

>>49821745
>dentist
>medicine
>the absurdlut state of biz

[Anonymous No.49822959]

>>49820496
Become a software engineer and you'll be a millionaire in 5 years instead of 15.

[Anonymous No.49823110]

>>49822959
doing what? OE with 20 jobs hiring subcontracting pajeets? because not even working at google for 5 years would make you a millionaire, unless you are living with your parents and literally using 0 money on anything

[Anonymous No.49823294]

>>49820836
this man speaks truth

becoming a doctor for the money is stupid. Do it because you like what doctors do: you like helping people.

You are going to see cancer patients, people dying, children dying, etc.

If you don't like medicine, you will make other people unhappy, and you will be miserable, but rich.

>>49821648

if pay wasnt that high, would you want to be a doctor? you only get one try at life. If you like medicine go for it.

[Anonymous No.49823461]

>>49823110
>unless you are living with your parents and literally using 0 money on anything
you already said the answer yourself

[Anonymous No.49823525]

>>49823461
yeah but getting into google is hard, you either have a CS degree from a top UNI and get redirected with your internship program, or you have a few YOE with a shitty uni degree and then leetcode like crazy to get the interview

[Anonymous No.49823547]

>>49820675
>Many doctors chose to become doctors Yeah, just like police officers and congressmen

[Anonymous No.49824791]

>>49820675
>doctors
>anything more than runners for the pharmaceutical industry.

[Anonymous No.49825489]

You can only become a doctor if your life is perfect and you have no interruptions. That means zero semesters where your grades slipped because of health issues, or a parent dying etc. The admissions committees are fucking brutal. They just don't give a fuck. If you're White, Indian, or some other Asian and your GPA/MCAT scores plus ECs aren't perfect - don't bother. These faggots refuse to build new med schools or increase their class sizes because they want to artificially limit the number of doctors in this country.

If you're black, then med school is for you because it's comparatively easy as fuck to get in, and you'll be handheld all the way to graduation.

[Anonymous No.49825758]

Yeah if you want to waste your prime years and then interact with idiots everyday and deal with the most disgusting things

[Anonymous No.49825774]

>>49820496
Go into pharmacy. You get a lab coat.

[Anonymous No.49825775]

>>49820555
You don't have any doctor friends do you

[Anonymous No.49825842]

>>49820496
yeah become a doctor I guess,doctors are ridiculously overpaid in the US because they don't have public healthcare

[Anonymous No.49825845]

>>49820496
i always liked the idea of becoming a doctor,
but you need top grades from grade 4 all the way up to your degree, so i never bothered with that

[Anonymous No.49826042]

I don't know why anyone who wants to go into medicine to make money wouldn't just go into tech...you're obviously smart enough and you can make 200k/year by the time you're 25, and 400k/year by the time you're 30 with no debt. You also generally work a maximum of 40 hours a week and you get amazing perks and a cushy office or work from home. You basically have a free Starbucks available to you all day and gourmet meals 3x/day. Also you generally get amazing benefits and are encouraged to nap and meditate at work and have fun
Compare that to a 30 year old doctor half a million in debt who gets 3 hours of sleep a day and has to work non-stop in some disgusting led-lit linoleum-floored hellhole and goes to buy some shitty sandwich from the hospital cafe for lunch every day and gets to chug water out of a paper cup
There are so many reasons why going into medicine or law for money is a bad idea. If you have the work ethic/smarts to do that then it's a fucking no brainer to go into software. Even a retard can understand Java and preparing for a Google interview is 1/100 of the amount of work that goes into studying for the MCATs. Oh yeah and even if you fail a tech interview you can just try again

[Anonymous No.49826097]

>>49826042
also if you're after status, saying you're an engineer at Google or Space X gets you more clout than being any kind of doctor except the crazy specialties like heart/brain surgery

[Anonymous No.49826251]

>>49826042
Working at a company like google is not guaranteed and work from home is relatively new. Before 2020, I doubt that top companies were okay with remote work to this degree.
>also if you're after status, saying you're an engineer at Google or Space X gets you more clout than being any kind of doctor except the crazy specialties like heart/brain surgery
kek most normies dont understand how good code monkeys at these companies have it yet. They are definitely not comparable in terms of prestige.

[Anonymous No.49826360]

If you aren’t super outgoing then your 20s are underwhelming and if I could go back I’d try law school or med school.

[Anonymous No.49826599]

>>49820496
am doctor in us. dont do it. i told my sister who wanted to go to medical school if she wanted to be in healthcare be a nurse or PA. she is currently a PA. I think best career choice is learn to code and work for google. my friend does that, works from home makes 700k a year.

[Anonymous No.49826710]

>>49820555
Retard alert.

[Anonymous No.49826742]

>>49820675
Pretty deluded and naive take, my guy. You have to be 21 to post here.

[Anonymous No.49826848]

>>49826042
I'm a FAGMAN software engineer married to a doctor and can confirm all my wife's doctor friends are jealous of how little I work and how much I get paid. All have occasionally voiced regret about not going into tech. Doctors absolutely get more respect than tech douches though. Nobody actually respects tech dudes, they're widely seen (rightly imo) as overpaid manchildren. Also working in tech kinda gets boring but you never lack for variety and growth as a doctor. I'd say tech frontloads its benefits but it is hard to make a satisfying career out of it unless you start companies in your 30s or something. But then you're just a businessman.

[Anonymous No.49826921]

>>49822591
Dentistry is medicine you retard

[Anonymous No.49826987]

>>49820496
Be a millionaire but you constantly have to check old people's buts for hemorrhoids and what not

[Anonymous No.49827289]

>>49825775
You don't know how much Indians/Chinese/Koreans value being better than their friends over anything else do you.

[Anonymous No.49827325]

>>49826042
doctors make more money than tech pajeets

[Anonymous No.49827396]

>I’m an 18 year old schizo zoomer


You will never be a doctor faggot. You’d be lucky to be anything in life.

[Anonymous No.49827470]

>median doctor salary
>208,000
>The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) reported that the median medical school debt among the Class of 2021 was $200,000, not including their undergraduate debt
So ~250k debt vs ~200k salary. Realistically they'd be able to put down 50k/year towards it after taxes and living costs. Lmao wtf. I could make more by joining a HFT firm being a C++ code slave and the cost would be just an undergrad education. Are doctors really this poor?

[Anonymous No.49827556]

>>49821541
applying to med school should also have an age floor. Teachers college as well.
WTF were we ever thinking allowing 21-26 year olds to teach, esp since they've never left the school environment

[Anonymous No.49827579]

>>49820496
My best friend in college went the medical school route. I went CS. Today, he's an emergency room doc working 80 hours weeks with a half million in medical school debt and a qt gf. I'm working from home ~20hr weeks with no debt and lots of freedom but zero social credit or friends. The choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.49827621]

>>49820496
no. if you want the doctor money with less school and less stress, take the anesthesiologist assistant pill. an MCAT that wouldn't even get you a DO interview would put you at the top of your class. just don't drop out like i did, kek

[Anonymous No.49827624]

>>49826848
I'm going to be interviewing with FAGMAN next year. What are your tips? I get angsty in tech interviews even though I'm a top tier developer in the workplace.

[Anonymous No.49827821]

>>49820496
>I would have missed out on a lot by the time I am 30.
No you won't. You will just have to work your ass off.
That said being a doctor is probably the closest to being a king wagie one can be, you are your own boss once residency ends, make bucks and take shit from (almost) noone.

>>49822516
People who are 90 today went through the great depression, WW2, grew up in asbestos filled buildings, smoked like chimneys and drank like hole.
If you're not a fat fuck, exercise and eat well you will almost definitely live up to 100 and most importantly be healthy in your 70s if not longer.
Oncology is probably the most studied segment of medicine with cardio-vascular diseases and it's highly linked to the study of aging.

You have one job which is to survive up to 2100 and if you do chances are some form rejuvenation will have been definitely figured out.

[Anonymous No.49828044]

>>49820496
Don't do it if you don't love studying biology or helping people. If you chose your career based on how much money you'll make you will quit at some point and try to do something else but it will be too late to change your path at that age. Trust me I've been through this.

[Anonymous No.49828101]

>>49820555
Based and trips of truth. Ex is at an Ivy League med school and it is completely about status. She gave up a full ride at a school one tier below just because she wanted the name recognition of the other school and bragging rights. 500k mistake. Kek. If your heart is truly a healer go for it, but don’t do it for $.

[Anonymous No.49828240]

It depends on what type of doctor.
Some doctors are millionaires but some are thousandaires.

Its a high risk high reward job. During residency you will be making what is pretty much minimum wage

[Anonymous No.49828250]

>>49820629
I did the math and I’d still make 8 million more if I gave up my 70k business job and it’s projected career growth and went back to school. If you can be a specialist like cardiologist or gastro you will have 12 weeks off a year and make 500k. Exes father did as a second career after the service and is a millionaire with a 5 million dollar house.

[Anonymous No.49828546]

>>49826042
Doctors don’t have to deal with modern AGILR bs. “How many patients you’ve seen yesterday? How many are you planning for today ?”

They are SME. Tech folks are not SMEs. They are glorified utilities. If you run a Insurance Tech deep with math, or Financial Risk Mgmt/quant, met be. Docs can eventually own a clinic (depending on cost; I’d rather fly to third world to open a clinic or health resort) and usually have no BS manager to micromanage them. Besides it’s recession proof. And if someone wants more excitement, once can specialise in a BioTech area, consult etc, along with holding a boring 200K GP job with lots of authority. Tech has no authority unless one owns a business, by then you are actually not into tech.

IDK, any other profession that needs some specialist knowledge that’s defensible, recession-proof and gives authority. Hospital jobs are stressful though.

[Anonymous No.49828844]

>>49827556
This is a good idea as well. We're making some great breakthroughs here i think, sir.

[Anonymous No.49828953]

>>49820496
i was in the same position at your age, but i ended up just becoming a registered nurse. got all the reqs done in one year my local community college then transfered to a top tier nursing school. literally did everything in 3 years because i had some college credit from high school. started out at 35/hour before i decided to take the travel nursing pill and made 15k/month. this is during peak covid btw. stopped doing traveling because i got married and now i am a flight nurse (i get to ride a helicopter shit is awesome). nursing is fucking great, especially if you are a guy, and you only graduate with like 20k debt instead of 200k+ like a doctor does.

[Anonymous No.49829060]

>>49820496
You will have no life until 35, perhaps even further. Also enjoy 32 hour shifts with 0 sleep
I haven't had a day off in 9 years.
There are other ways to help people without ruining your life
Yeah, but maybe another time. I'll be investing in rope very soon

[Anonymous No.49829193]

>>49820496
This thread is filled with people that have no idea about being a doctor.
The reality is that if you can get into med school, it is absolutely worth it. In the U.S. you will easily earn 300k+ after residency, in Europe you make less but you aren't abused as much.
Don't be a fucking idiot and go into private practice the minute you finish residency and you make more money, work less and actually treat what you want to treat.
You will always have a high paying job and can move location easily. If shit hits the fan you can easily migrate to another country.
What else would you do? Go into fucking Tech when the bubble is bursting? Stem is already competitive as fuck nowadays, in 4 years you will be graduating into a dessert market.
Medicine is always needed and pays a shitload. If you don't want to be stressed about life and death situations or getting fucked by hospital admins, just go into family medicine and chill.
t. graduating medicine next year in Europe.

[Anonymous No.49829217]

>>49820496
Anything that requires selling your time is a waste of life. Don't go to college.

t. 19 year old zoomer

[Anonymous No.49829318]

>>49829193
You have no idea what you're talking about dude this profession will wear you down until you're a shell of your former self. Have fun kid

[Anonymous No.49829359]

my friends in med school strike me as idealist types who genuinely believe they are helping people. in reality 90% of their patients will probably be 300 lb landwhales that can’t move. imagine all that school just to extend fatty’s life for a few more years

[Anonymous No.49829382]

>>49829193
Get ready for soft landing, son

[Anonymous No.49829421]

>>49820496
actual doctor here, the real answer is it depends what you end up specialising in and where you work - if you're in the US and specialise in something that involves short procedures, you will make bank. The hours are long and work is rough when you start (i.e. residency) but when you're a consultant it is not like that, unless you want it to be. If you're in the UK then don't do medicine, unless you plan on moving overseas to work, as the NHS is fucked. I studied in the UK and work overseas.

[Anonymous No.49829441]

>>49829318
I am going into family medicine and will buy a boomer practice the instant I step foot out of residency.
Family medicine residency here is a chill 40-50h/week and you already make a good chunk of money during it. Once you finish residency and buy your own practice you easily make 150k+ working 40h/week and this is only the average income, not taking into account that most doctors are fucking idiots when it comes to business and want to "help people" instead of optimizing their practice to maximinze profits.
Yeah of course the job will wear you down if you are one of the idiots that goes into Emergency Medicine or Intermal Medicine working at the ICU or a surgeon constantly on call.
Family medicine is the based hidden gem that nobody wants to do.

[Anonymous No.49829449]

Medfag reporting in. I'm 33 and have $300k of student loans. Starting medical school now would mean finishing with like $500k lmao

I like it. I'm from an autistic workaholic family so it suits me well. In terms of normies, you will work a lot in a high stress environment for a long time unless you set out specifically to minimize these things with your specialty but also your workplace (e.g., private practice dermatologist versus trauma surgeon).

I'll be a millionaire when I'm like...early 40s which isn't much different than my cousin that's a nuclear engineer or my friend that's an electrician. I don't really know a lot of people that aren't also doctors so hard to compare.

[Anonymous No.49829504]

>>49820496
They're unironically going to be phased out within 20 years. Study something in engineering. Someone is gonna need to do maintenance on those
>>49822092
Kek. Machine learning algs are mogging the shit out of "doctors" in diagnostics. It's over for mds literally. You n*ggers are gonna have to compete to keep your jobs not just constantly half ass it coz "I deserve my big paychek coz I had to suck dick for over a decade"

[Anonymous No.49829526]

>>49825775
I work at a hospital and he's right. Doctors are often massive sociopaths who couldn't care less about your health.

99% of them are also cowards who wilfully remained silent or even endorsed the vaxx clownshow.

[Anonymous No.49830006]

>>49829504
IBM Watson sucks turbo nigger dick
It would go to jail 5-10 times in a single day. Medical practice has tiny margin for error and often requires swift decision
You can't meme buzzwords like in tech
Muh AI is surely on the way but docs are probably among the last to be replaced, excluding telemedicine, esp radiology and telesurgery

[Anonymous No.49830149]

>>49820496
Honestly don't do it unless you want to help people by medically healing them. The hours as a working doctor are insane.

[Anonymous No.49830164]

>>49820604
30 yo pussy ain't as good as 20yo pussy and it never will be.

[Anonymous No.49830172]

>>49820836
This

[Fwen No.49830197]

Ironically

Becomes

Witch doctor

[Anonymous No.49830209]

>>49822244
Based

[Anonymous No.49830230]

>>49820832
>You can be 30 with a medical degree or 30 without it. Which would you rather be?
As someone who just turned 30 listen to this anon. Chances are you will waste your 20s spending all of your time shitposting on this board, so it's not like you're missing out on anything. Once you're here, you're here FOREVER.

[Anonymous No.49830544]

>>49829449
I'm 32 and thinking about med school, were there any boomers like me in class?

[Anonymous No.49830545]

>>49820496
there are much easier ways to get rich than med school

[Anonymous No.49830578]

>>49820496
Who cares on missing out. If a doctor id what ypu want do it.

[Anonymous No.49830615]

>>49820496
US healthcare is almost 100% gov subsidized and protected industry, zero respect pill pushers

[Anonymous No.49830637]

Go for dermatology. My brother does it, he works 8-5 Mon-Thursday and has a salary of $700,000. That’s base salary, no ducking around with stock options or bonuses or whatever, he makes like 60k a month before taxes, like 17 grand every two weeks in his paycheck.

[Anonymous No.49830648]

My dad is an orthopedic surgeon, makes 1.5 million per year
He told me not to become a doctor
I got CS/math majors in school, worked as a software engineer making 120k-150k my first 3 years, will be going to UChicago next fall for an MBA.

[Anonymous No.49830688]

>>49830637
dermatology is the most competitive branch of, good luck with that

[Anonymous No.49830777]

>>49820836
Based. Zoomer btfo.
>Muh millionaire status by 23
Welcome to the absolute 1% of the 1%. The easiest formula for success in this day and age still is:
>Get a good degree
>Love below your means
>Invest aggressively
If you do that, you will most likely have a 7 figure net worth within 10 years of graduating college. As an older millennial, I can tell you that my peers who did this are the most well off, wealthiest, and most able to take advantage of things like crypto and the 2020-2022 housing boom. I work in tech as a second career, but the number of 22 year olds I mentor who are on path to hitting 7 figure portfolios by mid 30's is insane. All because they aggressively invest 2/3rd of their salary, drive used cars, and don't blow their money chasing get rich quick schemes.

[Anonymous No.49830789]

Do pharmacists really spend the same 10 years of rigorous schooling as other doctors just to chill at a cashier making 200 hr?

[Anonymous No.49830822]

>>49828250
If you're just in it for the money, why not programmer? My silicon valley friend makes 350k total and only has bachelor's and is 25

[Anonymous No.49830853]

>>49820675
Most doctors are second generation thirdworlders who's parents pushed them into it because it's a high status job.

[Anonymous No.49830899]

>>49820496
gf just finished residency, she became a doctor for the prestige. her parents are wealthy and run some construction company. theyve paid off her loans and paid in cash for her houses/cars.

ive met her coworkers, other residents from other hospitals, etc. its blaringly obvious everyone is there for the status first and money second. or money first for the point of using it as status when not working.

[Anonymous No.49830910]

>>49820496
If you're actually smart enough to be a doctor, doing it simply for the money is foolish, since you could make more pursuing a career a tech.

[Anonymous No.49830926]

>>49830197
FEELING GOOD MAN

[Anonymous No.49830930]

Why is medical school so expensive

[Anonymous No.49831053]

Just take the crimepill. Well if you want to be a medicalfag you could combine that with crimepill. You could be like fauci or NHS shill and make bank being a piece of shit chad rather then the whining medfags on here.

>muh stemniggers
Combine that with crimepill. Get some monero and engineer some weapons to sell or use your codemonkey skill to be the next scam artist piece of shit like sam fatass bankman or chingchong zhao and make a scam exchange.

[Anonymous No.49831107]

>>49830930
part of the racket to ensure compliance with the majority

[Anonymous No.49831139]

>>49831053
Did you challenge yourself to write a sentence with as much obnoxious incel jargon as possible?

[Anonymous No.49831353]

>>49820496
Enjoy your vaccines faggot retard

[Anonymous No.49831383]

>>49830930
Being a doctor used to be a working class profession. It was only after jews injected billions into making drugs that they needed people to be heavily indebted to them, so they wouldn’t question their lies, because of the amount they paid for it

[Anonymous No.49831389]

>>49820496
Became a doctor by studying abroad (free or cheaper).

[Anonymous No.49831443]

>>49831139
Mad?

[Anonymous No.49831445]

>>49830789
It's just an undergrad

[Anonymous No.49831481]

Yes, it's worth it if you specialize. Otherwise, no. My brother makes $450k at age 34, and he will go part-time at 40, retire by 50.

Being a software engineer is not cool anymore. It was cool in 2010 when you were building awesome products. Now, there are literally zero cool products being built right now. No one even knows how tech stocks will perform this decade.

[Anonymous No.49831551]

>>49820496
I just feel like you really have to want to do it. That's why the medical profession is turning into a bona-fide caste system in the US. There are Indian and Asian families, and certain white families too, who prioritize this over all else. Parents who drill into their children that they MUST become doctors. I think it's crazy...but at the same time, I wonder if anyone would become a doctor without that intense familial pressure.

I am 31. There are people I went to school with in undergrad who are just now finishing residency and just now starting to be full-time doctors. They're also like 400-500k in debt if their parents didn't pay for their schooling. It's really quite insane.

What's unfortunate is a lot of doctors go through so much schooling, and they get so little sleep during their residency (working 8-12 hours a day plus school) that they completely lose their ability for critical thinking, if they ever had it in the first place.

My mother had to spend a few weeks in the hospital a couple years ago. Doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with her during that time. I figured it out by googling shit and doing my own research. I presented my findings to the doctor and he was like "oh wow great job yeah this is probably what's going on" and they completely changed her treatment regimen as a result and then she got better. After insurance the bill was still like 200,000 dollars.

I have respect for Surgeons and other medical professionals who do highly skilled very delicate and intricate work. But your average doctor literally just listens to your symptoms, makes an educated guess as to your illness (maybe runs tests) and then prescribes you a medicine, then they charge you a lot of money for that.

I guess it's the same with any high paying profession. Doctors and Lawyers make a lot of money...but they work their lives away. You have to really want to do it

[Anonymous No.49831661]

>>49831551
>My mother had to spend a few weeks in the hospital a couple years ago. Doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with her during that time. I figured it out by googling shit and doing my own research. I presented my findings to the doctor and he was like "oh wow great job yeah this is probably what's going on" and they completely changed her treatment regimen as a result and then she got better. After insurance the bill was still like 200,000 dollars.
Nice larp

[Anonymous No.49833290]

>>49822591
>branch
>specialty
>pick one

[Anonymous No.49833325]

>>49831661
most doctors are stupid and hospitals are more likely to kill you than save you

[Anonymous No.49833434]

>>49831551
I have 0 critical thinking skills is the first place how do I get that? Or a mediocre job that doesn't need that?

[Anonymous No.49833607]

>>49833434
By being born human.

[Anonymous No.49833678]

>>49831661
>>49833325
>Nice larp

I swear to God and swear on my mother's life I'm not larping. For rare conditions doctor's really don't know any more than you do. If they didn't study it for more than 5 minutes in medical school, they don't know it exists.

In my mom's case she developed a condition called Wernicke-Korsakoff sydnrome. It's usually only found in hardcore alcoholics but is sometimes found in people with botched surgeries and others. In my mom's case, she had ulcer's in one of her intestines which prevented her from absorbing enough Vitamin B1/Thiamine

The doctor's found the ulcers, they found out she had breast cancer too, but they thought her memory issues (she basically developed extreme dementia within a couple days) were the result of a folate deficiency caused by lack of nutrient absorption. They told us after a day or two of getting folate she'd be back to normal. Well...she wasn't, so I kept researching online. Eventually came across this korsakoff syndrome which matched all of her symptoms, and then when I finally saw the doctor I presented him this info and he literally said "wow good catch" and then changed up her fluids and put her on a vitamin b1 drip.

That still didn't really fix it, she had to go to rehab, and never fully got back to normal but at least recovered enough to go back home and live independently albeit with a cane. Her memory is not 100% but is basically what you would assume from a typical old person. If I hadn't found that info online, and the doctor's never found it, she might've just been in a nursing home the rest of her life as essentially a retarded vegetable.

Doctors know how to treat major conditions, but when they encounter something they don't understand they just throw various pills and treatments at it in the hopes that something works. When nothing works it doesn't matter, they still get paid. It's up to you to advocate for your own health and that of your loved ones

[Anonymous No.49834346]

this thread is scaring me
t. 1st year premed bio major

[Anonymous No.49834370]

>>49833678

[Anonymous No.49834394]

>>49833678
same thing happened to me. went to 4 different dentists/oral surgeons who saw these erosive white lesions in my mouth and were like yea that's this autoimmune condition, there's no cure for it and no one knows what causes it. I ended up doing my own research and found studies which implicated amalgam fillings as a possible cause. Went to a dentist to get them all removed and replaced with ceramic ones. Lesions disappeared within 48 hours. if I hadn't obsessively researched the issue, I would have still been living in pain. the vast majority of doctors are incurious retards who struggle the moment they have to deviate from the most common ailments they see in their practice.

[Anonymous No.49834562]

>>49823525
It’s not even getting the interview, it’s the actual interview. I studied leetcode for awhile, got decent at most of them, could solve mediums. Once you’re in the interview all bets are off, all it takes is one asshole interviewer who got forced to interview you and doesn’t want to be there to fail you. Or you get the algo giga nerd that has been doing algo interviews for five years straight and loves them, so naturally he expects you to be able to solve them on the same level as him.

Google is also known for a lot of graph and tree problems, which for me at least are the hardest types. Their onsite (if you make it) is 4-5 rounds, each immediately after the other, and I believe 4/5 of them are leetcode style algo questions in a google doc with no ide. It’s a fucking joke. After interviewing for awhile I realized it’s just a numbers game, you just interview at all the fangs until you get lucky and get fairly easy questions/interviewers that aren’t trying to fuck you.

[Anonymous No.49834649]

>>49820496
I don't think you should become a doctor for the money. I do think that you should consider money when choosing what type of doctor you'll be, however. Some specialists are bringing in high six-figures while family doctors can barely break six-figures. If you're just after money and you've got the brains for med school, do the sane thing and study comp sci with a minor in finance then get an MBA after a few years of working. It's a lot better from a work-reward perspective and you won't sacrifice all your youth doing it. The problem with doctors is that they guard the fuck out of the profession to create artificial scarcity to the point that they need PA's and NP's to do a lot of work doctors are supposed to do - which in itself proves that the requirements to be a doctor are needlessly inflated. If there were a bridge to go from PA/Nurse to Doctor, it would be something to consider, but on its face it's a horrible deal. Keep in mind that you'll probably stuff something unemployable like biology to get a high enough GPA. You'll have ivy league-tier competition to get into a medical school. Then you'll have hard, exhausting work to get through school and if you flunk out you'll be hundreds of thousands in undischargable debt and after all that you have to do a residency which makes waging at McDonalds look comfy so that you can finally become a doctor.

It's such a bad deal. Even if you do want to become a doctor, I'd start as a nurse, work up to PA, and go to med school in your 30's. This is a lot safer and financially savvy (employers in healthcare love to pay for you to get more education, and you'll start working very early on in your career). You also get to have a life.

[Anonymous No.49834754]

>>49834370
yes, your pic related is an accurate summation of the intellectual capacity of many doctors

[Anonymous No.49834781]

>>49834394
>Lesions disappeared within 48 hours. if I hadn't obsessively researched the issue, I would have still been living in pain. the vast majority of doctors are incurious retards who struggle the moment they have to deviate from the most common ailments they see in their practice.

glad you figured it out anon. It's just such a shame. All that research you did on your condition, that's what the doctor is supposed to be able to do. They're supposed to know more than you and have better access to information, but the truth is that they don't. Glad you figure this out for yourself but also sorry you had to go through all of that. If it's not a common ailment they are as retarded as the average walmart mart sharter

[Anonymous No.49835011]

>>49820496
>be me
>healthcare data scientist making $250k/year at 34 working no more than 35 hours a week
>work alongside physicians and directly influence patient care protocol and treatment regimen across the health system
>get to work with all different specialties and constantly learn new things, review cases, etc
barring you can deal with the social status difference (obviously being an MD is more respected), feel like my job is pretty awesome desu. great money and work-life balance. Great alternative to becoming a doc

[Anonymous No.49835077]

>>49830777
trips of truth

[Anonymous No.49835103]

>>49835077
dubs of truth, kek

[Anonymous No.49835121]

>>49820496
To become a doctor you engage in a system to profit banks and health care workers, in that particular order. You may think you are saving lives, and sometimes you do, but the entire process is there to indoctrinate you to become the least liability to the medical company, the biggest school loan debtor to the government/bank, and now that you're effectively enslaved for a few decades or so, you have no choice but to drown in self loathing for being a moron, defaulting, or continuing on with the game that was set as a trap. They no longer hire entirely on merits, but now also on gender, age, race, etc. Is that the environment you'd like to stay in?

[Anonymous No.49835645]

>>49834649
nursing is the least accepted major to med school. not sure why but it is. a bS in a foreign language has more acceptance rates

[Anonymous No.49835669]

>>49820496
Being a doctor is more of a calling. You will constantly be putting other people's lives ahead of yours. As a result you are compensated very well, because it takes a person motivated beyond just the financial freedom the career provides