I'm 18

[Anonymous No.49624406]

And the world is nosediving. Do I go to college?

[Anonymous No.49624482]

>>49624406
Unless you want to party and experience that environment, don’t. If you just care about money go to a trade. College is such a blatant business designed to rip off parents and kids it’s insane.

[Anonymous No.49624525]

>>49624406
If you are a white male, you will have the opportunity to apologize over-and-over in every class for your privilege. Sounds fun!

But many men have decided that college is a ripoff. It is now 60% women / 40% men. So you will have lots of dating opportunities to go with your student debt.

[Anonymous No.49624588]

>>49624406
Same anon. But nothing has changed for us. College still provides the same benefits it did before everything got fucked. If your major isn't retarded, college still drastically increases your likelihood of being in the upper to middle class, which is the entire reason in going to college. It's not a guarantee but it increases your odds of success greatly. So, nothing has really changed for us. Everything is fucked, but how employers hire will not change after the bear market is over or anything. In fact, I'd argue that us youngins just going to college are actually in better positions than most. We will probably be exiting college around the time everything is getting better, so getting a job, if that's what youre going for, won't be so bad in 4 years, is my guess atleast. This is considering that we don't go to civil war, world war, or something super fucked like that, but I think that's unlikely. If we do however, everyone is fucked and it don't matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.49624673]

You need to join a program, internship or some shit. You need to become friends with professors and other serious students. 99% of people just take class and go home and do things they think is fun. But really just being around campus with those people is the biggest safety net you can setup for yourself. Your future financial status is w.e its easy to make money. But if you want to be around top shelf quality friend group college is where to start.

[Anonymous No.49624696]

>>49624406
the world was nosediving when I was 18 too. you're gonna live a lot longer than you're planning to. so at least make sure you're making progress towards some goal, you don't wanna realize one day that you got old and got nothing to show for it

[Anonymous No.49624703]

>>49624588

[Anonymous No.49624713]

>>49624406
See you in your dreams

[Anonymous No.49624721]

>>49624406
Can you go there for free?

[Anonymous No.49624758]

>>49624673
I'm so socially awkward. I don't know if that's possible. Do trades need a lot of networking as well?

[Anonymous No.49624762]

>>49624588
>upper middle class
Lol, lmao even. There is no middle class or upper class, you are either rich, or you are a serf. Welcome to the united states of corporations!

[Anonymous No.49624768]

>>49624588
After reading the others posts I wanted to add the following:
If you don't know what you want to go into, you don't know why you're going to college in the first place, and you or your parents are struggling with money, then don't go. If you're going to be 100 grand in debt by the end of college and realize "fuck, I really hate finance" then you just wasted 4 years and 100 grand, when you could have gone into a trade field and not wasted absurd amounts of money. Imo, college is way too pumped as a must do. If you have scholarships, rich parents, or even a modicum of a plan, and that plan relies on college, then I suggest stick to it and go. Don't change anything because of everything being fucked, which like I said in my other post, isn't going to affect the outcome of college.

[Anonymous No.49624796]

>>49624406
College is leftist hell on earth, and it puts you into lifelong debt slavery.

The only good thing about it is you can get a stem degree, but that doesn’t pay as good as a trade and starting your own business.
If you want to bang college chicks, just live near a campus and pretend you’re taking classes part time.

If I would’ve skipped college, I’d have hundreds of BTC because I’d put that money into DCA instead of student loans for my worthless degree.

[Anonymous No.49624802]

>>49624406
If it's I a rural area giving you a better chance of survival during the coming tribulation.

[Anonymous No.49624819]

Go to UoPeople and get a computer science degree. It'll cost you like $5k in total for 4 years

[Anonymous No.49624830]

>>49624406
If it's not STEM forget about it and just go to trade school.
The only super good degrees are electrical engineering and computer science.

[Anonymous No.49624831]

When?

[Anonymous No.49624854]

>>49624406
Kneepadding is considered an expensive skill to learn.

[Anonymous No.49624865]

>>49624762
Lmao you're just actually retarded. There are classes, and you're probably at the lowest one lmao.

[Anonymous No.49624877]

>>49624406
For STEM yes. God I wish I was 18 again.

[Anonymous No.49624883]

>>49624406
If you're getting a comp sci degree, yes go. Go somewhere in-state so you don't have 200k in debt. If you're not getting comp sci, think really long and hard about it because you could probably do better becoming an electrician or hvac tech or something. there are a few other degrees that do well besides comp sci I'm sure but I couldn't tell you which ones.

[Anonymous No.49624918]

>>49624406
Honestly I would go to a trade school (assuming you're an Ameri-faggot). I would recommend doing a job like electrician, plumber - something that you can maybe get a unionized job easily - unless you're stupid code monkey (good luck with that).
On top of this, or even right now, open up an account with a stock brokerage and buy some stocks, buy some BTC (for starters) and put that in a hard wallet. Learn a bit of personal finance and investing **right now** because now is a good time as ever now that stocks are selling off.
> the world economy sucks
I graduated high school in 2003 and the economy was not doing so hot either then because it was a situation of "gradual then sudden" with 2008, but what you did in those times was to work, save, invest, learn, and repeat. Most of the people I knew have done that and have done more or less well, some even are about to pay off their mortgage while most I know are still living by necessity with their parents. Good luck anon.

[Anonymous No.49625135]

>>49624406
No, wait until 24 and collect pell grant. Stash all your money on a crypto wallet that can’t be traced.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[Anonymous No.49625450]

Im 21 and still wondering the same thing as you, OP.
I feel as if the whole educational system has nothing to offer me and l'll feel as if it just going to be a massive waste of a good chunk of my 20's.
Or maybe lm the one who's scared of things changing, who knows.
I take a look at everybody around me and l truely realized how small of a minority people like me actually are. Nobody in a hundred miles from me will ever blame the jews for the fault of how the entire world is going. It doesn't matter how much money you spend on education, being based is a choice and not served to you though the dogmatic world view of western think tanks.

[Anonymous No.49625522]

>>49624406
become a copywriter

[Anonymous No.49625523]

>>49624588
Based.

[Anonymous No.49627006]

>>49624406
Unless it's free, skip it or do a degree part time whilst you work. Considering that you probably don't want to go into research.


If it's fuck you debt, then run to the hills, unless you min max your modules to graduate in three years and with a stem degree that has a high income entry position.

[Anonymous No.49627060]

>>49624588
Retarded zoomber take

[Anonymous No.49627121]

>>49624406
Go to a trade school. College is a scam. If anyone asks what college you went to, just say you went to *insert state* State University. Literally no one cares or will actually check.

[Anonymous No.49627132]

>>49624406
as long as you didn't get vaxxed your prospects are great

[Anonymous No.49627151]

>>49624406
YeH apparently there aren't a lot of men in college so you get the best chance at young prime pussy that you will ever have in your life

[Anonymous No.49627171]

>>49624482
only in Merica tho

[Anonymous No.49627193]

>>49624406
>Do I go to college?
Unless you have a very clear idea of what you want to do and that cannot be done without a degree, no. University is a joke largely thanks to the universally bloated administration.

[Anonymous No.49627281]

>>49624406
50+ here. Yes. No doubt about it.
I made it. Didn't went to college. Financial great for me. Still doing business. Several companies.
Still, each time i talk with people, women, and so, in my circle. Always this topic floating around. "Oh, you didn't went to college."
But I speak 4 languages. Employees.
Still, always a taint.
No doubt about it, go to college. It is not learn, it's the most close to a nobiliary title.

[Anonymous No.49627341]

>>49624406
>>49624758
every 18 year old is awkward. You won't internalize this for a few years but everyone around you feels exactly as awkward and insecure as you do. confidence is literally just not giving a fuck about what people think of you. Doesn't mean being an asshole either. for now just try to put yourself out there. it'll work out.

My advice: If you don't know if you want to go to college, DON'T. There's no hurry. Seriously. Despite the doom & gloom the world isn't going anywhere. Spend a few years working odd jobs and try to figure out what kind of person you are. Venturing out of academia and into real life might sound scary but the earlier you do it the more natural it'll be. Make some money for yourself, meet people, live life etc. THEN, once you have done that, if you want to go to college, if you have a plan and there's an actual material purpose you need college for, you should go.

t. got GED in 2012, dropped out of 3 colleges because parents pressured me into it, then I became a self made artist and live off my work which has nothing to do with anything I went to school for. I'm okay now but I incurred a lot of pain and a lot of debt through college. Not a path to follow lol. No matter what you do, there's no reason it can't wait a couple years. Figure out the you part first.

ALSO do your absolute best to avoid becoming entangled with women at all costs, you can thank me later

[Anonymous No.49627383]

>>49627281
any advice to make it? running businesses?
I'm 27, 50k to my name and running 2 businesses including a web3 startup. we raised 3mils but unsure about the future. would appreciate any insight.

[Anonymous No.49627436]

>>49624406
The fact that you are posting on 4chan at 18 means that you’re atleast somewhat past the filter

All the over socialized kids are very self depreciating and indifferent. Be aware that you have to master their spiel otherwise it’s a hellhole for you.
There are also over socialized types of guys that are interested in business and entrepreneurship like us, but they are very few so be prepared to stand out and don’t give a fuck

[Anonymous No.49627548]

>>49624406
Yes because it's not really any worse now than before, don't let these doomerfags bring you down.
Btw, kill yourself nigger.

[Anonymous No.49627575]

>>49624406
join the Two Moms Army

[Anonymous No.49627607]

>>49624406
If I had my time again, I would get a trade first in an area where I had an interest which required a degree. For example, if I wanted to do electrical engineering, I would become an electrician first, then do engineering after. We are going to be working till we're 85 minimum if we dont make it off meme shit or create a business where people want to buy your shit. We have time to study, no need to rush.

[Anonymous No.49628231]

>>49627607
You can definitely get a head-start that way. I went to trade school (electrician) for two years before starting my electrical engineering degree and those 20 year olds who applied straight out of gymnasium didn't know shit about how that stuff works in practice. I was top of my class in every lab course.

[Anonymous No.49628346]

>>49624406
Ok kid listen up because this will be the easiest way for you to get ahead of your peers but it will take some sacrifice on your part pick out of these options
1) go get hired in a big corporate call centre, stay doing that for 4 months and immediately once you hit that mark apply for better roles internally or externally. Rinse and repeat. You are aiming for a manager gig where you tell everyone else what to do while being a useless fuck or a government role being a useless fuck
2) go get a trade and hustle. Eventually you are going to want to go public sector and be a useless fuck there making bank

College is an utter waste of money. If you do the above and be a good little wagie and invest your wagie bucks you will make it

[Anonymous No.49628490]

>>49624406
Yes. But do not expect too much of the wage labor society.

[Anonymous No.49628582]

>>49624406
if you want to meet girls, hostels are much better. go traveling to a country without covid rules. it will be much cheaper and more educational than college.

the only reason to go to college is if you're hellbent on becoming an engineer. if you want to start a business, it's better to get a job at a business like the one you want to start, and build money and experience.

[Anonymous No.49628618]

>>49624406
also, don't go into debt to go to college. save up money and then pay it up front.

[Anonymous No.49628626]

>>49624758
Read 'The Courage to be Disliked'. Learn to change your negative intrusive thoughts into thoughts that build your confidence, this will require you to perform actions everyday that improve you as a person. Build yourself up.

[Anonymous No.49628654]

>>49627281
You might speak 4 languages, but English isn't one of them

[Anonymous No.49628693]

No. Economic reccession means it will be difficult to find a job and that money won't be worth shit. Do a trade and save money and supplies because it won't stop here at all.

[Anonymous No.49628705]

>>49624406
Take my advice.
Take a couple of years, get some experience working a full time job, get a feel for what you actually want to do while building a strong foundation for a work ethic.

THEN after you have a taste of what adulthood and working is like, if you decide you want to go after a specific career that requires a degree, then go to college and use the money you saved while working for the last couple of years to pay for it upfront.

Going directly to college at 18 was the worst mistake I ever made, it cost me thousands and wasted years of my life because I didn't know what I actually wanted and was just going because "that's what you do if you want a good job".
This is a decision that will affect your entire life, don't rush into it, take some time to figure out what you actually want first.

[Anonymous No.49628791]

>>49624406
I just had a kid. Our plan is to home school him programming at a young age. Then send him to a coding bootcamp after high school. Coding bootcamps are a cool way of saying "6 month coding program"

Both my wife and I work in tech. College degrees mean nothing today. Go to a good bootcamp and start working on projects at home. Once your GitHub looks good you can work anywhere.

[Anonymous No.49628841]

>>49628791
Adding to this. I hire programmers. The majority of all my latest junior hires only have bootcamps on their resumes.

If you want a real cheat code. Every company is looking for programmers or designers with "accessibility" experience. Adding that to your resume puts you on top of the pile. >Accessibility is making sure deaf and blind users can use your product.

[Anonymous No.49628876]

>>49624406
you are fucked zoomie
I would definitely take a gap year and volunteer around tho
rushing for a degree is only sensible if you want to a lead a normie npc lifestyle

[Anonymous No.49628927]

>>49624406
Fuck off its nosediving, you fucking weak pathetic Zoomer fool. This is fucking nothing. I've seen interest rates at 18%, inflation at 20%, unenmployment triple what it is now. Strikes paralysing the country. What the fuck are you crying about? Big Mac going up 5% in price. No wonder you zoomers are full of shit.

[Anonymous No.49629034]

Thanks anons, I didn't think this thread would survive to the morning. My grades aren't great and my parents just want me to get any degree at any college but I know that's a bad idea. My only hobby is drawing but I'm mediocre and missed out on the patreon train. I think I'll find an odd job and try to figure out my path.
>>49628791
People on /g/ and other boards say not to get into programming unless you loved it since childhood otherwise it is soul crushing and those people with real passion will take all the spots. What is your opinion?

[Anonymous No.49629152]

>>49629034
You are still young enough to get in to it. Your 18, you are a baby.

If you want to get in to tech. Go to either a programming or UX bootcamp. It's rare to learn these things on your own. That's 1% shit. You need someone to teach you hands on. Start googling for bootcamps near you.

Fuck college, unless your parents are rich and you aren't taking out loans.

[Anonymous No.49629192]

>>49629034
>My grades aren't great and my parents just want me to get any degree at any college but I know that's a bad idea.
No that's not. Worse than a wage slave cuck, is a wage slave without a degree. Bottom of the ladder.
Drawing sucks if you are mediocre. However, there must be some other things that you like, and with what you can do some money. Do you like to eat? Get a degree in the food industry (chef). Do you like to travel? Go in hotel business. Do you like Spanish a little bit? Learn spanish. Do you like psychology? Learn psychology etc...
Doing something you do not like will catch up with you.
There must be something that you quite like, even if it's not your hobby.

[Anonymous No.49630328]

>>49624406
>the world is le nosediving because le inflated prices
You're probably too retarded for STEM anyways, go become a wagecuck like all the other drones here

[Anonymous No.49630536]

>>49624406
the end is near

[Anonymous No.49630815]

you zoomgroids are so fucking lucky you weren't born as early as even 30 years ago. back then your choices for a career would be the mom and pop stores in your town.

[Anonymous No.49630846]

>>49624406
If you can afford it yes

[Anonymous No.49630929]

>>49624406
Community college. Go for cheap. Move to NY and go to a CUNY or SUNY. College increases your ability to get a "decent paying" white collar job. If you want MONEY asap and don't care about physical labor or being outside, go into a trade. Electrical, steelworkers, sanitation, plumbing, etc. Could be making close to 6 figures with all the OT but you'll be busting your ass.

[Anonymous No.49630957]

>>49624865
Seethe.
>>49624865
Of someone of the same supposed Class, the UMC is one of the most delusional smug groups in the country - and a large amount of stress in my life is planning to how to keep my family from getting killed by this smugness when things get bad.

[Anonymous No.49631069]

>>49629034
/g/ is right in that you're never going to make it unless you have a passion for it (coding itself) and building things. The age factor isn't an end all. I work in industry and hire people and some of the best programmers I've met didn't start until their freshman year of college. I've also met several talented programmers who switched careers later in life (I'm talking late 20s and early 30s). But again, all of them focused their time and attention into learning the craft and getting good and it helped a lot that they thoroughly enjoy coding and building things. You can't just go into programming because of the "learn to code" propaganda and "muh money" (tech has been in a massive bubble these last 5-7 years and ain't no one going to be earning 100k+ as a junior dev in the next decade, believe me). It would be like people who studied finance and went into investment banking or private equity because they wanted to be Wall Street hot shot hedge fund managers and burnt out after only 3 years and never made it past lowly Analyst (I have run into so many insufferable finance fucks in the last decade who made a jump to the tech sector because they couldn't cut it in high finance only to realize that tech isn't a walk in a park just because we dress casually and now they're stuck and miserable with nowhere to go).

>t. Didn't write my first line of code until I was an 18 year old freshman during the Fall of 2010 for a Computer Science 101 course taught in Java. Went on to develop early Android apps as the market began taking off the following year.

[Anonymous No.49631679]

Don't fall for the 'college is a meme' meme
Don't fall for the NEET meme

You need a degree to get any job
NEET is just brainwashing trying to make a generation be lazy

[Anonymous No.49632216]

>go to community college for two years
>go to university for two years and get the piece of paper

Its that easy. College is a liberal hellscape but you still need the piece of paper to be upper middle class.

[Anonymous No.49632267]

>>49624588
>upper to middle class
Retarded redditor

[Anonymous No.49632292]

>>49624406
yes, nothing has changed. go to college, get a job, save and invest most of it
be a lazy mf = die poor

[Anonymous No.49632500]

>>49624482
>Learn a Trade
fails to elaborate on the entire truth

[YOUR COOL FRIEND No.49632627]

>>49624406
Absolutely do not go to college if you’re asking yourself if you should go.
It’s not necessary. I’m 32, a homeowner with a wife and kids, hobbies, etc. No college.

Develop marketable skills and be self employed.

[Anonymous No.49632635]

>>49624877
I went to STEM university at 23 and failed it bad (booze, weed and League of Legends). Now I'm on gubament bennies, because I got diagnozed with schizoaffective disorder.

[Anonymous No.49632643]

>>49624406
Dont get loans out for it.

[Anonymous No.49632687]

>>49624406
Nah fuck that shit be a plumber. Also buy an AR-15.

[Anonymous No.49633576]

>>49624406
No. Learn something useful for BarterTown so you don’t get sent to the Thunderdome. Master Blaster was a huge PITA for Auntie, but she had to put up with his antics and power trips because he knew how to harness methane to power the generators in BarterTown. Everything you need to know can be learned from Beyond Thunderdome, young Fren.

[Anonymous No.49633830]

>>49631679
You could be making more than most Upper Middle Class Men your first year out of high school by getting a used pickup, trailer, zero turn mower and weed wacker and providing groundskeeping services. It is near impossible to find a decent groundskeeper nowadays. All of them suck balls and do as little as humanly possible as fast as possible. To stand above that crowd would be an easy task. Up to you however. In hindsight, I never would have gone to college or would have only gone on an OCS Scholarship or something. Self-employment is the answer you are looking for, even if it’s being a car retailer that goes to the client or starting a tree care service. Anything besides corporate rainbow vision statement inclusion bullshit.