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Best strats to lower taxes, increase income and maximize neeting.

>> No.49369109

grüezi, do isch es bümpli für dr fade

>> No.49370020

>>49368910
Crypto: Switzerland can tax your gains as income if its above 50% of your net salary in any given year, if you hold it for less than 6 months. You then pay income tax + social security + pension tax on all your gains, in Zurich it could be up to 47%. Plus, if you make it, you'll pay 0.15% of your net worth in wealth tax every year based on EOY valuation. Oh your Chainlink tokens dropped 70% in value since Dec 31? Not our problem. Guess why Vitalik fucked off to Singapore.

In Germany crypto is guaranteed tax-free after one year holding (there is judicial precedent). Plus no wealth tax. Superior for crypto. Negative is all the Germans that live there with their low IQ and low-class arrogance.

>> No.49370030

Move to g

>> No.49370050

>>49369109
>>49370020
Schweizer sind ein deutscher Teilstamm.

>> No.49370148

>>49370020
Let's say you have 500k in Chainlink, and it moons to $5m. You sell all of it and live in Zurich. Unless you have a job paying you > $9m (net), you will pay
>0.47* $ 5.5m = $2.6m
in taxes, so you'll only be left with $3.1m of which you on top pay $12k p.a. in wealth tax, or about $1k per month on top of your $2k 60 m^2 flat (the wealth tax is actually higher than 0.15%, i forgot federal wealth tax)
https://swisstaxcalculator.estv.admin.ch/#/calculator/income-wealth-tax

>> No.49370162

>>49370148
moons to *$6m

>> No.49370175

>>49368910
Outside moving outside of Europe, your best bet for lower taxes is roping.

>> No.49370244

>>49370020
>In Germany crypto is guaranteed tax-free after one year holding (there is judicial precedent)
not only that, it got officially ratified, and became even more based actually
you can now also stake/lend and the period stays the same, the 10 year extension rule got abolished

>> No.49371724
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49371724

Grüß Gott leut. A.E.I.Ö.U.

>> No.49371908

>>49370148
Damn is Zug any better?
I wish I could move to Liechtenstein, since they got no capital gains tax.
Austria had the 1year rule too, but they got rid of it last year, maybe they reintroduce it for stocks and crypto.

>> No.49373284

>>49370244
Really?nThis was the main reason I did not stake so far, because I did not know if, +interest-taxes, I would come out on top.
I will look into this but hope this is true

>> No.49373449

>>49373284
Lindner der bratan hat geregelt

>> No.49373626

>>49373449
Scheint zu stimmen
https://blockchainwelt.de/news/kryptowaehrungen-haltefrist/

>> No.49375017

>>49373449
How can anyone dislike the FDP?

>> No.49375052

>>49370020
>have 5 BTC
>move 5 BTC somewhere
>trade with it on a DEX or FTX or bitfinex
>move 5 BTC back that you trade dto 25 BTC after 2 years
>yeah this is all my holdings, i just sold them after 2 years of holding
>20 BTC tax free now that you "won" in another forgotten wallet later

based

>> No.49375150

>>49375017
Just be poor and/or stupid

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49375314

>>49373284
>>49373449
>>49373626
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOW GREAT
NOW I CAN EVEN ETH STAKE

>> No.49375340

>>49375017
>>49375150
Be over 25 and remember how they betrayed everything they promised last time.
Or you know remember that they also want to abolish the Volk. Höcke for Kanzler.

>> No.49375647

>>49368910
work as a contractor and get an accountant.
i was ready to pay almost 50% in taxes this year, and for some reason i only have to pay around 12.5%