/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.4781145]

ITT: yfw you realize that the next toaster you'll buy will come with sensors and bluetooth to feed the tangle.

>the tangle will grow like cancer, and there's no cure, because all your governments want them to IoT your ass
>there will be backdoors
>IOTA will become a part of your daily life, if you want it to, or not
>the internet of things will be everywhere, and it will be powered by IOTA
>if you want it to, or not. It doesn't matter.
>dont fight, accept your fate, join it.
>there will be intelligent cities for the refugees, if you want them to live there or not, it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to ask you in the first place
>the tangle will sample your poop and send the data to japan. no transaction fees!

[Anonymous No.4781172]

>>4781145
>buy toaster with this shit in it
Nope
>but what if you had to
Remove the device

[Anonymous No.4781189]

>>4781145

iota is trash

[Anonymous No.4781205]

>IoT toaster
nah, IoT is a horrible meme that will never catch on no matter how much it's forced. it's just pointless.

[Anonymous No.4781299]

>>4781145
Look at him and laugh. Could've bought IOTA at $3 but instead he's a bitter racist loser buying shitcoins.

[Anonymous No.4781328]

>>4781172
>>4781189
>>4781205
you people do realize that you sound like the plebs saying that trains aren't secure, will never catch on, and horses are just the best.
>Go ahead, and put steam into my horse, I'll shoot it.
that'll show em.

[Anonymous No.4781339]

>>4781328
except trains are useful, IoT isn't. it's a forced meme that serves no purpose.

[Anonymous No.4781348]

>>4781205
The toaster alone isn't that useful, but the only thing bigger than the combination of all these seemingly insignificant data points will be the internet of brains. It will make cuckbook look like fucking hieroglyphics

[Anonymous No.4781361]

>>4781348
what will it do?

[Anonymous No.4781402]

>>4781361
data collection on the nanoscale

[Anonymous No.4781407]

>>4781339
>serves no purpose
why do you think Mutti Merkel, the Doland, Maccaroni, and how they're not all called are so much interested in IoT (just do a quick "IoT G20" google...)? To give the economy a slight boost?

>>4781348
ahhhhh

[Anonymous No.4781409]

>>4781328
>trains aren't secure, will never catch on, and horses are just the best.

This is the weirdest fucking comparison

[Anonymous No.4781414]

>>4781402
what does that do though, how does knowing how much people use a toaster affect the supply chain?

[Anonymous No.4781432]

>>4781407
I don't care about all the tech companies that ran out of ideas and are trying to force the next "innovation", tell me what IoT is actually going to do

[Anonymous No.4781435]

>>4781414
Because it's not just the toaster, it's everything about how they use everything without needing to decipher retarded communications

[Anonymous No.4781446]

>>4781435
but what will it do? supply/demand already dictates the supply chain and profitability, how does collecting data on a nanoscale change this?

[Anonymous No.4781460]

>>4781409
He got cars confused with trains i think

[Anonymous No.4781462]

>>4781435
>>4781446

Also how the fuck does this make IOTA valuable? Doesn't seem like it's acting as a currency at all

[Anonymous No.4781506]

>>4781462
w-we need to monitor everything ok?

[Anonymous No.4781533]

>>4781432
>what IoT is actually going to do
it's going to make sure you're not going to chimp out. It's fucking perfect. "Opposition" in such a world will not even be able to emerge. Minority report is a joke, compared to what we're dealing with here.

[Anonymous No.4781559]

>>4781446
Working out what to supply for maximum demand

[Anonymous No.4781560]

>>4781533
can you explain? will my IoT guns stop working if I'm flagged?

[Anonymous No.4781567]

>>4781559
we already know that from purchases, usage isn't equal to demand.

[Anonymous No.4781571]

>>4781560

Time for MGS4 ID-tagged guns

[Anonymous No.4781591]

>>4781567
Obviously there is more to know unless all business agreed to just stop competing

[Anonymous No.4781601]

IOTA is the worst crypto meme ever

[Anonymous No.4781606]

>>4781145
CENTRALIZED

[Anonymous No.4781609]

>>4781145
>>4781536

[Hi I'm Chad, your mom's friend(...) No.4781623]

>>4781145
I think your tin foil hat is a little too tight. This is a new paradigm. Just buy some IOTA or cry yourself to sleep later. You can't stop the NWO, might as well accept the mark of the beast and get some GAINZ. That lambo ain't gonna buy itself, and being a doomsayer doesn't pay, you know? Besides, if you don't buy IOTA, someone else will. Then, when you finally FOMO over it, it will be worth 1000 times more. The same goes for BTC.

[Anonymous No.4781640]

Your resistance only makes my network faster

[Anonymous No.4781682]

>>4781591
yeah, same reason phones take usage data and stuff. it's nothing extraordinary and probably will never affect consumers though.

[Anonymous No.4781684]

>>4781560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUf_8jyxbiM

Relevant part starts at 1:30

[Anonymous No.4781691]

>>4781560
everything will be full of sensors, you're whole life will be free to observe at any point in time. Can you hear Stalin/Mao/Hitler and company jerking off in their graves/somewhere in Argentinia? Or the faschistoid SJW/Neo-marxist fuckheads? This is blackmail/Hetze-Hetze-Hetze!! fucking paradise.

And that's only the political side of the IOTA coin. The other side is indeed economics. Think big data. Think a bit bigger.
>wow

>>4781623
>he hasn't noticed how deeply involved """international""" leaders are into IoT
right now they're preparing the laws that will allow them to put a sensor into your butthole. If you want it or not. You might aswell enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.4781699]

>>4781601
And Dash was a premooned scamcoin, either /biz was larping or missed out on 70x this year

[Anonymous No.4781717]

>>4781684
Internet of War has arrived

[Anonymous No.4781730]

>>4781328
Are you actually implying that a toaster needs to be connected to the internet? For what purpose?
>hey your toast is ready
Thanks I put it in fucking one minute ago.
>implying IoT's true purpose isn't surveillance

[Anonymous No.4781742]

>>4781682
You're really not comprehending the magnitude anon, this is like phone data on crack. Frictionless collection and trade of data on everything. Like I said the data on one thing might only be a little useful, the data on everything combined contains any answer you want

[Anonymous No.4781759]

IOTA is a broken technology with good marketing

https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/iota-is-problematic-miota-broken-internet-of-things-8f68f2bbd541

Someone will do it better and kill IOTA stone dead

[Hi I'm Chad, your mom's friend(...) No.4781761]

>>4781691
>Can you hear Stalin/Mao/Hitler and company jerking off in their graves/somewhere in Argentinia?
You know what's stranger than invasions of privacy and sensors up my butthole? At some point, you had to imagine this scene that you just described. Something is off with your mind and I think it's not just a tight tinfoil hat. Maybe the illuminatos really DID fry your brain with microwave weapons.

[Anonymous No.4781766]

>>4781742
I really don't, what usage of things data would be relevant at all?
>oh I used my toaster 3 times this week!

[Anonymous No.4781778]

>>4781560
There will be audio sensors everywhere
As soon as you shoot a bullet you'll have drone armies on your ass from the acoustic triangulation

[Anonymous No.4781779]

>>4781730
Wasn't that long ago that nothing needed to be connected, literal end of the world if you were to sever all those connections now

[Anonymous No.4781807]

>>4781742
>Frictionless collection and trade of data on everything.
Yes. We will all have universal basic income (IOTA holders will not be needing it). I don't see a problem... you're just salty coz you didn't buy lower. REKT You should've listened

[Anonymous No.4781824]

>>4781807
>We will all have universal basic income (IOTA holders will not be needing it)
Yeah after you install the curl hasher into your own brain and sell your own thoughts on the marketplace. Watch specially crafted thoughtmercials for extra IOTA!

[Anonymous No.4781831]

>>4781766
You won't be buying it, the data would all exist and (((they))) would buy the bits they want

[Anonymous No.4781840]

>>4781571
METAL GEAR SHOOTS NUKES... noo... it cant be

[Anonymous No.4781847]

>>4781779
I wonder why we haven't made connections to certain things yet? Is it possible they aren't necessary and - gasp - not wanted?
My toaster doesn't need telephony and I don't want it to have it.
If I found out an appliance like that was transmitting data it would actually dissuade me from purchasing it. I cannot believe you're willing to put what are essentially listening devices in your house simply to see higher prices with this coin.

[Anonymous No.4781854]

>>4781807
You assumed I give a shit, I don't, it's going to happen regardless of my feelings so might as well make myself some money from it.

[Anonymous No.4781868]

>>4781854
>spreads legs, bends over
>come and get it boys!
Might as well kill yourself because death is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.4781892]

>>4781409
>>4781460
fucking retards
go back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.4781894]

>>4781847
That's not how this goes. It creeps in everywhere until the internet toaster just seems normal. You might resist but the normies don't fucking care and are buying internet toasters for whatever gimmick. Maybe toasters have changed by then, your microwave can toasts and that uses internet to perfect toast.

[Anonymous No.4781918]

>>4781807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VIL7x6L1I

FUCK IOTA IS GOING TO START THIS

[Anonymous No.4781934]

>>4781894
I will simply remove the connectivity devices
I refuse to be cucked

[Anonymous No.4781936]

>>4781868
I'm buying the coin not the fucking toaster, I'll have the option of going comfy off grid with a harem of whores while you microwave your fucking toast and are eternally BTFO

[Anonymous No.4781940]

uninronically, i have been waiting for this my entire life. dystopian films are my favorite genre.

[Anonymous No.4781947]

>>4781934
Yet you are still posting

[Anonymous No.4781977]

>IOTA holders are literally telling us their coin is going to help bring the ultimate surveillance state for government and corporations, and that this is fine because it's gonna happen anyways

[Anonymous No.4781998]

>>4781868
oh really? what are gonna do about it, tough guy? you know it's gonna happen eventually. the illuminati gonna rape us all. might as well add some vaseline to easy it up a bit. Owning IOTA is the equivalent of putting vaseline up your butt and living an easier lifestyle in futureland. don't you want to be an elite, anon? do you think the members of the illuminati didn't have to spread their cheeks for some higher up? one dick polishes another, this is just the way things are. that's what you get for allowing european illuminati freemasons stay in power for so long. you're all slaves now. "the things you own end up owning you" - tyler durden. IOTA will be the next big thing, so you may as well just buy it. lol

[Anonymous No.4782064]

>>4781742
You short sighted beast! This feeds the ANI which feeds the AGI which leads to our holy apotheosis.

The Galaxy rise is upon us, brothers. The time of the post human cometh!

Nay shall we be bound by the prisons of bone and sinew; uplifted shall we be in polymers, bathed in graphene, and clothes in alloy!

Our thoughts shall be woven in rivers of light, far exceeding that of the shells in which we inhabit. Our birth shall be the true beginning of our destiny and the first of our history.

Fear not! Join us!

Give us your data, and bear witness to the creation of divinity!

[Anonymous No.4782085]

>>4781339
>No purpose

You mean like cars that can automatically pay for gas, electric charging, parking, and tolls?

You mean like solar panels that can instantly sell unused energy back to the power company or your neighbors?

You mean like smartphones that are able to pay for data as needed instead of having cell phone plans?

You mean like smart fridges that can order food from you're preferred grocery store when you start getting low?

Or maybe you mean like smart electric meters that can pay for your household power as you use it?


Yeah, you're right anon, it's pretty useless.

[Anonymous No.4782095]

>>4781977
It has been in motion a long time anon, the exponential rate is just becoming more noticeable as with everything else, resistance is already futile

[Anonymous No.4782101]

>>4781145

>tfw IOTA will mindlessly take over the world like that universal paperclips game

Feels cozy in a dystopian kind of way desu

[Anonymous No.4782112]

>>4782085
we can already do all that, it's called a "bill"

[Anonymous No.4782119]

>>4782064
>This feeds the ANI which feeds the AGI which leads to our holy apotheosis.

Not gonna argue anon, this is truth

[Anonymous No.4782122]

>>4781145
S&R

[Anonymous No.4782136]

>>4782112
How fucking long have you been alive?

[Anonymous No.4782168]

>>4782136
34 years

[Anonymous No.4782191]

>>4782112
>We can already get from one place to another, it's called a horse.

[Anonymous No.4782207]

>>4782191
topkek, anon

[Anonymous No.4782218]

>>4781761
How old are you? Not because I'm implying you're a stupid kid. To the contrary, my guess would be that you're too old and comfy, only remembering the good times, to even imagine only a fraction of what will become reality (if you like it or not). Do you have any kids? Go ask them what they think about it.
We're living in a world where you lose your job, and get shunned by your social circles in an instant, should you dare to cross some imaginary line (a line that is further and further to the radical left, if I may add...). Ask that google guy. Ask a student. Are you even in touch with any of this?

[Anonymous No.4782267]

>>4781145
No one is forcing you to capitulate to the sodomization of IoT. Tell your braindead wife and kids to get some constructive hobbies.

[Anonymous No.4782305]

>>4782191
it's really not much of an advancement

[Anonymous No.4782310]

>>4781778
>There will be audio sensors everywhere
They don't even need something you'd call an audio sensor. Much simpler sensors are sufficient to reconstruct anything you say, or where you are, or what/who you're doing.

>>4781847
>My toaster doesn't need telephony and I don't want it to have it.
Maybe not just yet. But you will want to have a "smart home" like all the other plebs too. It's not only suuuuper comfy. It's a fucking status symbol. AND YOU WILL WANT IT AND YOU WILL LIKE IT (if you want to or not).
>be woken up in the morning by "smart light"
>the coffee and toast(!) is already ready for consumption the very moment you step outside the "smart shower" that also analyzes all the dirt on your body (health insurance will call you later to inform you about a raise...)
and so on, and so on... It's actually much easier than the diamond scam you idiots and your idot parants fell for. Now those are fucking worthless.

[Anonymous No.4782316]

>>4782218
>We're living in a world where you lose your job, and get shunned by your social circles in an instant, should you dare to cross some imaginary line
To be fair this has happened throughout all of history but for even more inane reasons.

[Anonymous No.4782321]

>>4782218
I'm not too old. I'm not too young. You think I want reality to be some 1984 dystopia? I want freedom. What I am trying to say is that if we're going to have to grind in the future just to get some MIOTA and have some basic conditions of living after the USD collapse, we may as well just buy our freedom now for cheap. It's too late for being a rebel now. THE BABY BOOMER GENERATION caused this. Just look at the higher ups of society, the ones with power. They are mostly Boomers who want to have control over everyone and everything. There's nothing we can do about it, because everyone else just goes along with, playing their sick games. Buy IOTA or cry later.

[Anonymous No.4782348]

>>4781934
>I will simply remove the connectivity devices
No, you won't. And you fucking know it. Sure, you wont agree or admit it. Only the most autistic fuck could really resist such social standards. And their hermits. Living an isolated life. There simply aren't that many autists this sever out there. Chances you're one of them are virtually nil.

[Anonymous No.4782366]

>>4781977
:D :D :D

[Anonymous No.4782384]

>>4782310
this is how i imagine it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXH2K2ZlrjQ

[Anonymous No.4782484]

>>4782267
>No one is forcing you to capitulate to the sodomization of IoT.
It's called social pressure. We are social beings. Sever autists not included. But they're really an outlier, and trapped in their own timeline anyways.
This concept might be new to some of you, but if you think really hard about it, even you might come to the conclusion that "social studies" aren't all just utter trash.
>muuuh individualism
>muhh 87 genders
top fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.4782495]

>>4782316
Yes. And currently it's getting worse again. Rather rapidly, if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.4782501]

>>4782168
Then you will know (((they))) are never going to give up an opportunity to make it more convenient for us to give them our money

[Anonymous No.4782532]

>>4782384
oh yeah, people will fucking love it. Neighbours will be so fucking jelly all over the country.

[Anonymous No.4782813]

>>4781977
Grade A post...

[Anonymous No.4782887]

>>4781328
>The only way this analogy works is if the horse's eyes are actually cameras linked to the CIA
>or that the whistle from the steam tells your name and location to every spy government on the globe
>even North Korea

[Anonymous No.4783022]

>>4782887
it might be a bit far fetched, but there are just so many examples you could take, guess I was a bit choice-paralyzed there... But for real, some education in contemporary history might adjust the point of views of some of you in here... all that stuff we take for granted nowadays... the introduction of these things were very exciting times
>the introduction of the fridge
>a telephone, right in your own god damn home. fucking amazing.
>a connection to everlasting energy/electricity (or steam if your a fucking hippster)
>electric gardening tools
>a personal fucking computer
>the NES home entertainment system, show me the family that didn't have on of those...
>a fucking iphone
so many examples, from super useful to not at all. They all have been life-changing. First ignored, or feared. Then accepted by everyone. Oh look, here comes yet another new, shiny thing!!! Watch out!

>implying people don't want IoT
top fucking kek. No seriously.

[Anonymous No.4783126]

>>4783022
checked.

[Anonymous No.4783198]

Think about cars 5 years ago, did they have wifi?
Nahhh, now they do though. Measuring your speed and braking.
How about smart watches? Just gotta check your heart rate!

Imagine the marketers wet dream of being able to track and purchase data about you on the fly with instant transactions and no fees. You kids are fucking retarded if you don't think this is going to blow up.

[Anonymous No.4783207]

>>4783198
>Think about cars 5 years ago, did they have wifi?
>Nahhh, now they do though.
what the fuck cars are you driving? I never saw one with wifi before

[Anonymous No.4783238]

>>4783198
>You kids are fucking retarded if you don't think this is going to blow up.
tfw retired because of IOTA

[Anonymous No.4783254]

>>4783207
in america, they're pretty common

[Anonymous No.4783294]

>>4783207

My last two cars have had Wifi built in.

Almost every car GM makes these days has it. Watch others follow suit. Maybe...VW?

[Anonymous No.4783313]

>>4783198
It isn't even just the marketers, it goes way beyond targeted cuckbook ads, it's everyone along the chain. We'll even be surprised ourselves by the information uncovered about our very own shit. Even at a very simple level, like what does it cost me every time i open my fridge door

[Anonymous No.4783354]

>>4781407

Shit just look into the UN. Seriously. Iota and ethereum are posied to do big things. Horrible, shitty things I'm home but I'ma try to get rich off it.

[Anonymous No.4783391]

>>4783354
yeah... they fucking mean it.

[Anonymous No.4783462]

The unabomber was right

fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.4783533]

>>4783207

My car has a wifi hotspot, bluetooth and voice recognition that actually works.

[Anonymous No.4783548]

>>4783391
And eth will be used to transfer funds between countries. UN has already done PoC trials...
Putin has met with Vitalik.
IOTA has sponsered events for UN.

Nobody looks at the big picture anymore.

I fucking hate it though. I like privacy.

[Anonymous No.4783636]

>>4783548
>I fucking hate it though. I like privacy.
I don't know. It's kind of hot if people are watching while I'm fapping.

[Anonymous No.4783679]

>>4783548
>implying there won't be privacy exceptions for the wealthy
everything is for sale

[Anonymous No.4783727]

>>4783462
Jesus. You aren't kidding.

I'm well read, but have never actually read that. Wow. Spot on.

[Anonymous No.4783731]

>>4783679
you think a faraday cage could replace the lambo meme?

[Anonymous No.4783793]

>>4783731
I've thought about it, I think it would feel comfy

[Anonymous No.4783982]

>>4783731
i need a faraday cage for my hw wallet

[Anonymous No.4784008]

>>4781145
>the tangle will sample your poop and send the data to japan. no transaction fees!

why does my shit need to be sent to Japan? SHUT THE FUCK up you shilly poo poo in the loo sandnigger pajeet.

[Anonymous No.4784017]

>>4781205
I think Alex and google voice are pointless amd creepy but normoes eat that shit up

[Anonymous No.4784073]

Microwave without IOT crap in it
$50
Microwave with IOT crap in it
$199

Automatically orders tendies when it senses you're running low!

[Anonymous No.4784114]

>>4784017
Exactly. Its already started. There is no reversing it.

So get rich and move to the woods?

[Anonymous No.4784163]

>>4784073
And that's where you're wrong:
>produce and sell 500 microwaves wo. IoT crap
>produce and sell 6000000 microwaves with IoT crap
And now think again, Mr. Rockefeller.

>>4784114
Don't look at me, I don't know either.

[Anonymous No.4784172]

>>4784017
>normoes eat that shit up
do they? I've never met anyone who got one.

[Anonymous No.4784202]

>>4784172
>posting on mandarine imageweaving boards
>never meeting anyone
you think there might be a correlation?

[Anonymous No.4784207]

>>4781742
Even if this is true, what makes you think iota will emerge as such a big winner? Copycats will spring up and companies will do their own shit in house

[Anonymous No.4784242]

>>4784202
I have lots of friends, nobody owns these things. Are you sure you aren't only know 25 year olds in tech industry?

[Anonymous No.4784249]

>>4784207
it's really simple. Once """they""" have that shit backdoored, I mean, legalized and stuff, you're hired. End of the story. You really don't need to look too far for similar examples. You're sitting right infront of a computer, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.4784256]

>>4784172
Alexa and google voice are really popular Christmas gifts right now. Its more for rich yuppie faggots but if you watch tv youll see how hard theyre pushing it, amd theyre getting pretty cheap

[Anonymous No.4784284]

>>4784256
Theyre also pushing it as an office/work to to eliminate routine tasks like ordering things

[Anonymous No.4784293]

>>4784242
just kidding. Neither I've ever seen an alice cube in person before... but I figure those are still baby steps. I mean, voice recognition is pretty much solved, but all the services around it are still lacking. Not much IoT and Amazon to buy from around, where I come from... But this will change quickly enough, no doubt.
>alexa do this..
>alexa do that..
>hahahahaha so funny alexa
fucking commercials

[Anonymous No.4784320]

>>4784256
>Its more for rich yuppie faggots
Pretty much all (modern) innovations are for rich yuppie faggots at first. Yep, even your fucking cancer medicine. They become a status symbol quickly, so normies need one too, and all of a sudden everyone has all the popular gadets.

[Anonymous No.4784357]

>>4784320
I dont know how people got so stupid. Its like the faggot yuppie sheep gene spread because theres no selection for toughness anymore