/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.431909]

>tfw thinking about finance major

I'll make like $300K annually at 25, right?

[Anonymous No.431914]

no you'll be sucking your boss dick for more overtime so you can keep your job
>hurr I want to make big money
>finance sounds great, that's money right? :^)

[Anonymous No.431919]

>>431914
>mfw

explain..

also couldn't I start my own business with all of the knowledge i'd gain in school?

[Anonymous No.431926]

>>431919
no

[Anonymous No.431930]

>>431926
pls

[Anonymous No.431934]

thanks for the kek m8

[Anonymous No.431940]

>>431934
>tfw everyones laughing at you

[Anonymous No.431946]

>>431909
>not just settling down in the suburbs and working in a local bank as a loan officer making an easy $70k a year

If you manage to get into investment banking, then yeah you can make $300k a year eventually, but you'll also be working 60+ hours a week and free time will be a thing of the past.

If you work in a bank, you'll have a boring but easy job, decent middle-class income, and you'll be off work by 4 or 5 PM, have weekends and holidays off, and get to hit on qt3.14 bank tellers all day.

[Anonymous No.431952]

>>431946
Investment Banking was the plan.. major in Finance, go for MBA maybe... get internships along the way..

[Anonymous No.431995]

>>431946
But that is my plan anon. Do you have any experience with this? Should I apply directly for the job or try to work my way towards it from a teller position? Do they hire on directly for loan officers without experience?

[Anonymous No.432032]

>>431995
nigger fuck you this is my thread

[Anonymous No.432049]

>>431909

No, and you're naive the think so.

[Anonymous No.432053]

>>432049
but why

tell me best case scenario

[Anonymous No.432056]

>>431952
You're gonna have to be the top of your class at a highly acclaimed school to be considered for any real investment banking position job. After that expect 7 days/week workloads and being treated poorly your superiors. Sorry but majoring in Finance doesn't make you the next Carl Icahn...

[Anonymous No.432062]

>>432056
but how much do you make... obviously 650K a year right?

[Anonymous No.432087]

>>432062
so many reaction images...surely this is a real thread and not gr8 b8 m8 id rate it 8/8

[Anonymous No.432090]

>>432087
I'm just a stupid bitch from /b/ and always post them.

[Anonymous No.432091]

>>432062
I'm not an investment banker, I'm an accountant but I've known enough people who thought getting a Finance degree would make them the Wolf of Wallstreet to know you're young and delusional about investment banking jobs. They're very lucrative positions so they're only going to take the best, so unless you're a Type A top gunner don't bank on a six figure salary anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.432096]

>>432091
Also, they way you're conducting yourself in this thread leads me to believe you're not the "Type A top gunner" kind of person.

[Anonymous No.432102]

>>432091
I've never heard that... Type A top gunner.

I'm white, 6'0+ and apparently attractive, though.. isn't that a bonus?

[Anonymous No.432107]

>>431909
finance major is the biggest mistake you can probably make

unless you are in harvard and have already family connections to the large banks, otherwise, just forget it.

[Anonymous No.432108]

>>432107
why would anyone get it or recommend it if it's pointless..? What business majors are even worth it then?

[Anonymous No.432110]

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4uzNo_w9fc

[Anonymous No.432113]

>>432108
they are worth nothing cause they basically wont teach you any SKILL there. i majored aswell, I CANT DO SHIT and I cant find even decent job. And my college was way above avarage.

to learn some ACTUAL SKILL SO SOMEBODY WANTS TO HIRE YOU

[Anonymous No.432119]

>>432102
>I'm white, 6'0+ and apparently attractive, though
That mentality pretty much seals the deal that you're young, naive, and completely delusional about the finance job market. It takes magnitudes more than just being white and tall and it's the not the fucking 1920's anymore, get real. If you treasure your future, please don't study finance because you will end up jobless and impoverished.

[Anonymous No.432120]

>>432110
god dammit. i used to watch this guy.

[Anonymous No.432124]

>>432056
Not top of class, just 3.5 and up at certain schools like UPenn. Then you just do the usual networking crap and you get the job.

[Anonymous No.432125]

>>432110
apparently he doe this truthful consulting shit. maybe i should try it and ask him what the fuck I should do. probably bullshit though.

"asshole consulting" he calls it.

[Anonymous No.432127]

>>432124
The school i'm going to is Penn State...

[Anonymous No.432130]

I remember knowing a bunch of people in university who laughed at me when I said they won't be making more than 150k after school (they thought they were going to be making 300-500k a year easily). I said this after they got internships at top international investment banks, too. One was currency trading, and the other was involved in something involving IPOs. I basically just looked up the amount of money different positions in finance make (from analyst to senior positions I forget the name of now), depending on which bank, and showed it to my friends.

Turns out that I was right.

[Anonymous No.432145]

>>432127
You're fucked. They don't even look at your application. All the good places are filled with Ivy league grads who help their own.

[Anonymous No.432151]

>>432145
That's probably true.

God dammit, maybe I really should just go into engineering or medicine. My math skills really aren't up to par in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.432154]

The only way to make 300k right out of college is to graduate from Harvard with a 4.0 and have daddy give you a job at his hedge firm.

Nepotism rules the world....but that doesn't mean people haven't entered IB without any connections, it happens.

But there are many finance related jobs that you can get to 80k+ in less then 5 years. But without getting into IB your chances of high 6 figures is very unlikely.


>if you want 300k starting everyone knows you need a phd in math

[Anonymous No.432157]

>>432151
Engineering and medicine are both pretty math intensive. Medicine up to calculus not past that usually. But engineering can get very math intensive depending on the sub field

[Anonymous No.432158]

>>432151
>Math skills aren't up to par
>Consider engineering or biology as alternatives

LOL. Are you 15 years old, OP? Both those studies are extremely math and science heavy. Multitudes moreso than a finance major. Maybe do some research into the job prospects and requirements before declaring a major any time soon.

[Anonymous No.432167]

>>432157
>>432158
I know this. That's my point and my worry. I know that jobs in engineering and medicine are full proof, genuinely important and will always be needed.. so sucking/not remembering any math is annoying. I was okay at math in high school, but I haven't been in school for a year and college starts within a month. I never even took calculus in high school because I didn't go to 12th grade past three days (lel still got into Penn State branch and will transfer to main after 1 year)

[Anonymous No.432168]

>>432167
>never even took calculus

hahahah just kill yourself now. seriously don't even try anything remotely math-related

[Anonymous No.432171]

>>432167
It's "fool proof", and no they're not. The word you're looking for is "essential".

[Anonymous No.432172]

>>432168
you take calculus in freshmen year, though..

[Anonymous No.432173]

>>432171
I can't believe I typed "full" instead of "fool" fucking fuck I made fun of people on here for doing that before.

[Anonymous No.432177]

>>432167
If you weren't good at high school math what makes you think you'll survive college math for STEM courses? You need to stop considering starting salaries and start finding out what you're actually good at because you're gonna be a dropout trying to force your way through engineering or med school.

Source: saw way too many people drop out forcing their way through ME, IE, AE.

[Anonymous No.432180]

>>431946

I dont know..I work for one of the largest banks in the SF Bay area and its not unheard of for mortgage officers and financial advisors to be pulling in 150k+. Branch managers and Private Bankers can pull in closer to 100k..

[Anonymous No.432186]

>>432177
You don't think I could study, remember everything and learn whatever I need to learn to hit the ground running? Going into engineering for only 4 years (maybe getting an MBA later) seems much easier than going to med school and studying all day for like 8 years straight. I picked Finance ITT because I don't have anything that I specifically want to do so I thought I might as well just make money and not give a fuck. I'm confused, now.

[Anonymous No.432196]

>>432186
You don't know what you want to do, you just want to make money?

Go work for a year keep switching between entry level jobs until you find an area you like doing/are good at. Like factory, machine shop, bank, or med staff. Or come work in the oil field but hurry up cuz no experience positions are going away soon.

[Anonymous No.432200]

>>432196
but i'll be frank, I don't want to do any of that bullshit. I want to do something that is mentally challenging and doesn't take a ridiculous toll on my body.

>mentally challenging

[Anonymous No.432215]

>>432200
Can't get something for nothing dude. Enjoy $10/hour for the rest of your life.

Also engineers who don't know what it takes to make what they're designing are terrible engineers.

[Anonymous No.432219]

>>432215
You're implying that all good engineers worked in the labor market of their field before going to college and getting a degree?

[Anonymous No.432220]

>>432215
>Also engineers who don't know what it takes to make what they're designing are terrible engineers.
what in the fuck does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.432222]

>>432186
>College math
>Simply "learning what you need to learn" and "remembering it"

Not even close. I'm done trying to convince you you're an idiot because you're much better at convincing yourself you're not a idiot. Enjoy your wake up call this fall on your first round of exams.

[Anonymous No.432225]

>>432222
You're really just being an asshole for no reason.

also nice quads

[Anonymous No.432236]

>>432225
Except he's not.
An undergrad in engineering is harder than premed undergrad (pretty much biology). After that medschool picks up and becomes the most intensive education out there.
Take it from me, no matter how smart you think you are engineering will whoop your ass.

[Anonymous No.432241]

>>432236
He is for presuming that I'm going to flunk out no matter what.

[Anonymous No.432243]

>>432219
Well I'd say most. But if you don't care about how it's made while you're learning, only getting the grades and "remembering the math" so you can get your paycheck, the people who have to machine 1000 pieces of your design are gonna hate you.

[Anonymous No.432246]

>>432241
It's a warning that's justified anon. Engineering is fucking HARD. I'm a junior computer engineer.
Many smart people flunk out and move to computer science.
If you want to have decent grades ( >3.0) than prepare to have very little of a life. You'll be doing calculus pretty much everyday for years.
But it's well worth it, an engineering degree will set you up for life. Good luck and don't fuck around much. Also, coops coops coops coops.

[Anonymous No.432267]

>>432246
It's not like I've said anywhere ITT that it's going to be easy.

[Anonymous No.432276]

>>432032
You're thread is stupid. Age and degree do not determine your salary.

[Anonymous No.432285]

>>432276
>You are thread is stupid.

probable b8.

> Age and degree do not determine your salary.
where is this coming from?

[Anonymous No.432358]

>>432110
>2014
>not selling your soul to the devil

[Anonymous No.432384]

>>432358
I would if he existed.

[Anne Erin !W1MmioNU0A No.432409]

What I've taken from /biz/ is that, in short, law, finance, med, science, architecture, education, engineering and arts are all one-way tickets to nojobz. So either they're all equally shit, and you might as well just take whatever strikes your fancy, or the real money is in a fine arts degree.
Right?

[Anonymous No.432431]

>>432276
Nah, I started to say something else but changed it. That was just a fuckup. I was referring to the OP which set the topic as a question regarding whether or not a degree in finance at the age of 25 guaranteed $250k/year.

[Anonymous No.432437]

>>432431
<$250k
Sorry, I am at work and distracted. $300k

[Anonymous No.432454]

>>432124

>Just a 3.5 at an Ivy League, no biggie

[Anonymous No.432460]

>>432409
>law, finance, med, science, architecture, education, engineering and arts are all one-way tickets to nojobz

So every subject taught at a university is a guaranteed "nojobz"? Lol.

I swear, nearly every fucking idiot on /biz/ is all like "hurrr do a trade durrr lol". Trades are a one way ticket to mediocrity and no respect. Enjoy being looked down upon by kids.

[Anonymous No.432474]

>>432460
And what pray tell did you earn your degree in?

[Anonymous No.432489]

HOW TO GET A GOOD JOB

1) be clever
2) go into anything quantitative (math, science, cs, eco/fin/acc, ...)
3) go to a good college
4) got contacts or have some fucking brains? disregard 2 and 3, just do whatever you fucking feel like
5) don't be a retard with computers
6) don't be a retard with your resume and in your interview
7) still fucked up? start your own business with your skills
8) fucked that up as well? then reconsider 1), you're probably dumb as shit
9) repeat if 8) was the case, enjoy life if it wasn't

[Anonymous No.432504]

>>432489

I fucked my interview for a meteorologist job :(

[Anonymous No.432509]

>>432180
Bank of Marin?

[Anonymous No.432512]

>>432489
That's probably the best advice I've ever seen on this board.

[Anonymous No.432516]

What about Economics?

[Anonymous No.432559]

>>432516
Bump

I'm wondering whether I should study finance, business or economics but I can't choose. I don't know what's the most valuable

[Anonymous No.432565]

>>432559
what do you mean by most valuable?

based on job security and selection, compensation, interesting, beneficial to society?

give me some more clarity

also are you purely interested in these fields because of money? (don't feel bad if your answer is yes, because practically everyone is in it for that) I just don't think they are going to be the most sure fire ways of making a lot of money and providing security and stability in the future

[Anonymous No.432568]

>>432565
Based on compensation and value to the eyes of investment banks and the like
Basically, if a recruiter had three identical resumes but one was a finance major, the other a business major, and the last one an econ major, which one would he choose for IB and why, and would this choice be identical in other similar environments like hedge funds

>purely interested in these fields because of money
Mainly yes.
However I'm not interested in anything else (I have no passion for engineering or whatever) so it's not like I'm compromising; and I'm truly interested in both macroeconomics, geopolitics and financial markets. So there's that

>don't think they are going to be the most sure fire ways of making a lot of money
What will be, in your opinion?
>and providing security and stability in the future
Honestly, I'm not really into that. If the job's not secure (high risk of losing it) and not stable (traveling a lot, bad working hours...) I don't care

[Anonymous No.432573]

>>432460
Go start a thread claiming you're doing any one of those degrees, and ask /biz/ whether you made the right choice.
One or two people will tell you about their experience in that field and how shit the job market is at the moment and how you won't be paid well and a wealth of other disadvantages.
When every qualification is shit, none of them are.

[Anonymous No.432587]

>>432180
that number is inflated cause your in cali

[Anonymous No.432619]

bumpingg. I slept on all of the advice and stuff I read last night.. still no clue what would be the smartest idea for me.

[Anonymous No.432624]

>>431909
how many years do you plan to stay the age of 25?

[Anonymous No.432633]

>>432624
3 months

[Anonymous No.432639]

>>432619

You're going to a shitty school that nobody in top tier financial positions will even consider.

Youre fucking around on a taiwanese claymation forum.

You seem to have no real skills or interests.

You want a quarter of a million dollars each year in return for a skill that you think you'll possess by the time you're 25? Ok, tons of people can trade their skills for that much money.

OP post high school education's purpose is to help you develop skills based on your interests or to help you find an interest and then develop the skills needed to receive compensation for those skills.

There are music majors, history majors, fuck probably even women's studies majors who make millions of dollars a year. There are people who have no college or even high school education who make millions of dollars a year, whose names are more renowned that yours will probably ever be.

Interpersonal skills, drive, and passion are what you will need. Connections, a constant watch for opportunities.

Nobody from IB will give you a job, OP. Youre not cut from the right cloth.

I think your best bet is using college to find something you have a genuine interest in and then giving your time and energy to reaching the top of that field.

[Anonymous No.432647]

>>432633

Basically OP if you major in something finance related then corporations, businesses, peers, firms, etc will laugh at you and you won't be able to get a job that isn't a wage under $25/hour.

[Anonymous No.432649]

>>432647
What do you do?

[Anonymous No.432653]

>>432649
or more like: Why would it be wise to believe anything you're telling me?

I'm really not even considering Finance or business majors now. I'm looking more at engineering, medicine.. shit like that. Accounting is always possible but probably too exciting for me.

[Anonymous No.432654]

>>432649

I shovel elephant shit and make cute little girl figurines out of molded fired elephant shit and then put on cam shows where I eat them

Who gives a fuck OP

[Anonymous No.432660]

>>432654
Anyone that wants genuine advice gives a fuck you stupid fucker.

[Anonymous No.432661]

>>432653

Just get the fuck out, go study accounting at some second rate school and get your 50k salary and if you're lucky when you're 30 it will be 70k or something

[Anonymous No.432664]

>>432639
>>432647
>>432654
>>432661
>obviously buttmad anon trying to take it out on me
is there something you want to talk about?

[Anonymous No.432667]

>>432661
>just get the fuck out of the board that i don't own and have nothing to do with
>GET OFF MY BOARD

at least I now know you're a bitch faggot IRL and haven't done anything useful in your life. thanks for letting me know, anon. I appreciate you being open with me.

[Anonymous No.432674]

>>432649
>>432649

I worked in IB for 7 years after an education from Columbia University, now I volunteer at different nonprofits in my community because Im set. I'm happier doing this work making connections with people, forming relationships and gaining public respect than I would be continuing in a financial path

That shouldn't matter OP because it makes you seem like the type of person to put all your money in a certain fund or stock or whatever it is because you read it in some finance magazine or saw it on some tv program. If you can't use your critical thinking skills to evaluate my advice on your own without these extra considerations such as my own occupation or life path, how the fuck do you expect to be the kind of person to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year?

>>432664

I'm upset with you Anon because you seem to get wet over these lucrative salaries and you seem like you think it's something you can get. It definitely is, pretty easily but not with the way youre doing things now

[Anonymous No.432677]

>>432667

Coming from a person with no goals or aspirations backed by anything resembling a plan of action, attending a shitty school with again, no idea what they want out of life. If you can't be open to the fact that this is what people see when they look at where you are, then yeah I really don't want you to be on this forum. It's not like I'm regulating it, I just don't want you here because you literally just asked for advice and haven't been open to *any* of it seemingly

[Anonymous No.432684]

>>432674
Why should I believe you?

I went to MIT and came out with a degree in EE. I work for Tesla and Google, now. What's your point? I can probably bullshit advice better than you being that I've said I'm an EE from Tesla and Google that graduated from MIT at a 4.0 GPA.

I want to believe you because that'd be cool to be getting real advice from someone that went to an Ivy League and went through all of that shit and was also in IB. That'd be great, but I have no reason to believe anything you're telling me. You're presuming so much about me.

>inb4 you don't know me

[Anonymous No.432687]

>>432684

Did you not read the thing about critical thinking

I'm done trying to give you advice

[Anonymous No.432689]

>>432687
You haven't given any advice. You're just shitting on me. You're telling me that i'm never going to have a job that makes past 25/hr and that I'm going to fail no matter what I do.

[Anonymous No.432691]

>>432689

If that's all you got out of >>432639 then you are absolutely right my friend

[Anonymous No.432694]

>>432568
Bump for this

[Anonymous No.432696]

>>432568

Depends on what position

[Anonymous No.432697]

>>432691
If I had the time or money to go to college and just try a grab bag of different things then maybe I'd do that. Fuck, i'm not even paying. My grandma is. I don't want to waste her money. Everyone on this website says to go into STEM or to not even bother. I have no choice. I have to go to college, so I don't want to waste my time. I play guitar, but who gives a fuck. I'm not going to be the next Hendrix.

[Anonymous No.432700]

>>432697
>inb4 not with that attitude you wont

[Anonymous No.432703]

>>432696
Sales makes the most money. Is this still too broad?
Could you elaborate on which positions require what? I'm assuming front desk, since that's where the interesting things happen.

As for the other anon saying that finance is not the best choice anymore if one wishes to make money in the future, do you agree with this?
If so, what's your take on what's going to become the next ultra-competitive, high paid industry?

As I said earlier, I'm interested in econ and markets, but I see so much contradicting advice on here that I don't know if I should try to get into that anymore.

[Anonymous No.432706]

>>432697

If you had the time? How else do you occupy your time? Apparently not making connections or networking, going to local events or exploring opportunities that would eliminate this problem of yours.

> everyone on this website says to go into STEM

Gee then maybe try and learn and then use those *critical thinking* skills you apparently didn't quite get in high school and try and see if a STEM degree would work for your own skill and interest set. Then you can start looking at how much you want a job in the field, how much you're ok going into debt for school, how many years of school you're willing to go through, all the other shit.

> I have to go to college

No you dont.

> I play guitar, but who gives a fuck

Obviously you do, so maybe if it's something you're interested in try and go to local bars, shops etc to see if there are any opportunities for you to *monetize this skill*.

> if I had the time or the money to try a grab bag of things

OP unless you live in rural Nebraska or something (you dont) there are tons of free local opportunities for you to try new things and expose yourself to more than you thought possible. You're setting limitations on yourself that aren't really there.

If you don't want to waste your grandma's money then don't. Is it a waste to broaden your horizons and explore opportunities and try new things? If you say yes, >>432661

Do you see what I'm getting at Anon?

[Anonymous No.432710]

>>432703

> sales make the most money

Do you have what it takes to be a valuable asset in sales? If so, demonstrate that to an employer and be hired. If not, figure out what you lack and decide if the end goal is worth the acquisition of these skills you don't have.

> I'm interested in econ and markets

How can you monetize that? What is your optimal end result? Is it achievable? What do you need to sacrifice? Are those trade offs worth it? How do you know? What skill do you want to trade for compensation, do you have that skill, etc etc. There's so much contradicting advice wherever you go. You need to decide what is right for you all on you own. If you need to look at data, stats, job growth and opportunity, etc then do so and judge it on your own. Don't ask here unless you're ok with the contradictions. Take every thing you see here and ask yourself if you can use it, and if so how.

[Anonymous No.432714]

>>432703

Here is a basic idea that I think you may need to hear again or hear for the first time. In order for you to have more money, you need to give something for it. Money comes in for services and services only. Find out how your interests and skills can be useful to another person or group of people, and then you'll start making money.

[Anonymous No.432715]

>>432706
>If you had the time? How else do you occupy your time? Apparently not making connections or networking, going to local events or exploring opportunities that would eliminate this problem of yours.

guitar, 4chan, nothing ever since i left prep school.

>Gee then maybe try and learn and then use those *critical thinking* skills you apparently didn't quite get in high school and try and see if a STEM degree would work for your own skill and interest set. Then you can start looking at how much you want a job in the field, how much you're ok going into debt for school, how many years of school you're willing to go through, all the other shit.

I'm not going into any debt, but I don't want to be a fucking asshole to my grandma and have her pay like 200K just so I can "explore" opportunities there.

>No you dont.

Unless I come up with some crazy business idea and get really lucky, I'm going to be working in a fucking warehouse making like 15/hr maybe. So, I really do. It depends on where you live. I live in Butt-Fuck, Nowhere USA.

>Obviously you do, so maybe if it's something you're interested in try and go to local bars, shops etc to see if there are any opportunities for you to *monetize this skill*.

You have to be amazing to get $$$ out of it.

>OP unless you live in rural Nebraska or something (you dont) there are tons of free local opportunities for you to try new things and expose yourself to more than you thought possible. You're setting limitations on yourself that aren't really there.

>implying you know where I live

I get everything you're saying but I've been NEET for the past year after dropping college prep boarding school and turned into a wash out playing guitar for the past year. Maybe I'm just fucked now. I was surprised that I even got accepted to colleges after dropping and getting a retarded GED.

>inb4 excuses for being stupid

[Anonymous No.432721]

>>432715

If you spend your time doing nothing then nothing is what you will get!

You don't need to go to college to make millions of dollars lol. It might make it easier but like I have posted before all you need is a skill or service to trade for money. People pay hundreds of dollars to pay for a seat 300 meters from where a really good guitar player is playing. If that's really what you want to do then get good enough skill wise, do the networking and small gigs you need to do until you get to the top. It can not be more simpler. Apply the same sort of steps to literally anything else.

Fuck, you could be a day trader with no formal education for example. Learn enough, start a simulated portfolio and work enough until your returns are average or above average for a day trader, and go in and demonstrate that you are qualified to an employer. People want the services an educated person can provide, not the knowledge they have.

Just find something you want enough and work at it.

[Anonymous No.432737]

>>432721
I just don't know what else to do. College seems like an easy way to learn everything and I live in the middle of nowhere. There really aren't any opportunities where I live. College is my only genuine option to move or meet other people etc.. actually have opportunities. I don't have money to move and jobs around here are bullshit. I don't even want to go to Penn State but I have no choice.

[Anonymous No.432739]

>>432737

You're right bud you've got it really tough. I'm sorry to hear that. There definitely aren't any opportunities for you anywhere nearby and you won't be able to learn anything useful outside of college, nobody ever has in your situation because it's just so tough. Youre just unlucky is all, I'm sure your kids will understand when you tell them you couldn't save for a college fund for them because there just weren't the kind of opportunities around where you were that you needed. Don't sweat it. You're just a poor little thing.

[Anonymous No.432741]

>>432739
That's not what I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.432743]

1) Convert to kike religion.
2) That is all.

[Anonymous No.432761]

>>432710
>Do you have what it takes to be a valuable asset in sales?
People skills? Yes. Apart from that, I have little to no experience outside of retail and I have to go to college.
>demonstrate that to an employer and be hired
Could you be more specific? Apart from general "people skills", what are you thinking about?

>How can you monetize that
The questions you're asking are a bit disconcerting since up to now I've thought about the whole thing as a path that required a degree, knowledge and efficiency, that's all.

Furthermore, there aren't a lot of ways to make a real lot of money. Either way, I'm going to have to sacrifice something, be it my social life or other things (I don't mind that) for a period of time.
I don't have enough knowledge about what actually happens in that industry since I'd have to work there to get a good idea. So the only thing I can do is look around, ask people, and see what it consists in broadly. Which is not enough to figure out if I'm cut for the job.

>>432714
>In order for you to have money, you need to give something for it
I never implied the opposite. I know that if I want to make the kind of money I'm talking about, I'm going to have to be extremely talented and efficient in a competitive and cut throat environment. So be it
>how your interests and skills can be useful to another person or group
Wouldn't that kind of advice only be useful if I was extremely specialized already, like PhD level? In which case yes, I could have a talent that nobody else has and that I could monetize. But I'm a student.

[Anonymous No.432773]

>>432761
This guy hits the nail on the head to how I feel when >>432739
>>432721
>>432714
>>432710
>>432706
>>432696
>>432691

is trying to give advice. It's really confusing and doesn't seem to make sense for a 19 year old going to college. it's all very presumptuous. If we had realistic ideas on how to monetize some 'skill' we have, why the fuck would we be asking about college degrees?

[Anonymous No.432777]

>>432773
I had no intention to call him out and those aren't rhetorical questions; I'm really wondering how I should go about all this.

[Anonymous No.432840]

poor kid ;_;

There's like zero chance that you'll be making 300k in IB at 25 with what you've said so far. It requires a pedigree, a certain mindset and a strong interest in the field.

Just learn computer science, faggot. Coding is fun and if you're smart, it can be extremely lucrative. You can make like 100k starting out of school if you do well and do projects on the side.

Good luck :3

[Anonymous No.432843]

>>432091
>Type A top gunner

What would you consider a type A top gunner? I'm pretty confident in myself.

[Anonymous No.432849]

>>432154
I've got an uncle making 500k+ per year in London with some big bank. does that count for anything? I'm not even living in the UK though

[Anonymous No.432850]

>>432840
>6 figures starting out of school a bachelors in anything but maybe petroleum engineering for the next ten years maybe

right. I'll be sure to make 100K before the indian takes my job for 20K a year.

[Anonymous No.432853]

>>432489
I tick all these boxes except I'm autistic so I have 0 contacts

[Anonymous No.432854]

>>432850
Well with that kind of mindset, you're going to be lucky breaking 6 figures by 25!

[Anonymous No.432857]

>>432854
It doesn't really matter what I think. If that mattered then I'd be a millionaire already.

[Anonymous No.432862]

>>432857
What a retarded comment.

And what makes a kid who hasn't even started his first year of college an authority figure on job opportunities?

Your attitude is garbage.

[Anonymous No.432863]

>>432862
What do you do?

[Anonymous No.432882]

Op, you're a human waste. People are genuinely giving you advice, calling you out on your bullshit, but you just stay closed and don't hear anything because you feel insulted ( for a reason ). The only thing you can do really is take your head out of your vagina, hide your retarded ego, and listen, listen, listen.

[Anonymous No.432886]

>>432882
Nobody is giving any advice.

[Anonymous No.432897]

>>432862
Im somebody else anon, asking a question

What do youthink about this comment?>>432661

What is he trying to convey here?

[Anonymous No.432899]

>>431909
Goddammit, I hate how people thinks these days.
I would hate myself if I had chosen to be an employee rather than starting my own business. There is no thrill in being an corporation slave, not mentioning the better income you earn. Starting a business is very easy, I don't know why many people just stay at being an employee all their lives.

[Anonymous No.432902]

>>432886
Alright OP I just read up to the point of you saying that you go to PSU.. I'm main campus right now, and I was formerly going to Smeal, not IST. Gonna be a sophmore this year and I can tell you that unless you make it onto the Nittany Lion Fund, you won't get a decent job.

[Anonymous No.432905]

>>432902
Shit *now IST.

Anyways, PSU is a shithole that boasts being the "number one ranked school for recruiters" which is true, but that doesn't at all mean that the jobs will be GOOD. The high, high majority of jobs that people get (whether that be from engineering, business especially, or science) are just for huge companies where you will have a cubicle and will have absolutely no way to move up the food chain.

[Anonymous No.432909]

>>432886

Good, then listen up you stupid faggot.

Stop talking people down randomly. Everyone has been giving you TONS of advice. We can't make your decisions for you. Everyone wants someone to take that burden from oneself so we can blame them instead of ourselves if we hate what we're doing, or fail at hit. That's the wrong approach, unless your career goal is ending up as a sad lonely faggot.

There's this IB guy and from what he's writing I fully believe him and you should as well because his advice is good, regardless of what the fuck he's doing.
This board is too inactive to have people randomly, for their enjoyment, talk you down (there's /fit/ for that, and trolls are too busy shilling their shitcoins).

Now, first: schools don't mean shit, unless it's one of the really big ones (Ivy, MIT, Oxbridge if you're EU). Seriously, they don't mean shit. You don't automatically make money by going to Harvard. Hell, if your family has the money, just go there as a freemover for exchange; they supposedly take everyone who can pay.

Now, you wanna go into finance? What the hell does an investment banker even do? Do you even know that?

Go and do a gap year if you don't and think you still wanna do that. Fuck university, travel around in Oz or something. It will clear your mind.

If you really have to study right now: go into something quantitative. I'd suggest business so you can still back out if stuff's too hard for you.

[Anonymous No.432912]

>>432909
>they supposedly take everyone who can pay
Harvard?
Anyone who doesn't ask for financial aid gets a place? The fuck? Where did you get that information?

[Anonymous No.432918]

>>432897
Yeah, really.. he's just being a cock for no reason. It's really unnecessary and doesn't help.

>>432899
You need to have a good idea, right?

>>432905
What a drag.. I really don't know what to do now.. I had the chance to go to a Pitt branch but the costs were ridiculous.

>>432909
>If you really have to study right now: go into something quantitative. I'd suggest business so you can still back out if stuff's too hard for you.

I really DON'T.. but I'm not getting any younger and I don't have anything else to do. My mom says that I don't have to, but she'd be angry if I didn't. I don't have any specific reason to not go.. i'm not going to get into any other schools unless I go to my local community college instead.. but what's the point? I'm not even going to the main campus until 1-2 years in my major. I'm starting at a shitty local commuter branch that will only cost me like 4K a year.

[Anonymous No.432920]

>>432912

I'm talking about exchange as a freemover only, not generally going there.

I know some guy who went to a decent European school and as a freemover to Hardvard and told me just that. I've read it recently in some forums while researching some other stuff as well.

This might only apply to their business school though. Feel free to correct me if I'm totally wrong here (of course they won't take someone with horrible grades, etc., but your school doesn't need to be another Ivy, etc.)

[Anonymous No.432921]

>>432167

>full proof

[Anonymous No.432924]

>>432409

/biz/ is all multi-millionaire small business owners

[Anonymous No.432925]

>>432921

yup >>432173

[Anonymous No.432927]

>>432918

How old are you? I guess 18/19?

You would be 19/20 then when you start college and 23/24 when you finish with a masters degree. Pretty much average.

[Anonymous No.432928]

>>432920
Oh so this only applies as an exchange student or for HBS.

Do you know if being able to pay full tuition at least gives you an edge in undergraduate admissions?

[Anonymous No.432929]

>>432927
i'm 19.

[Anonymous No.432930]

>>432918
>you need to have a good idea, right?
of course not, that is what average joe thinks, and is the reason nobody likes to go for it.
you don't even need the money, you can easily loan from banks or people you know.

If you work hard enough for the business to work, it will work

[Anonymous No.432937]

>>432930
I really doubt this. I'd do it right now if it really was that simple.

[Anonymous No.432940]

>>432928

I guess it doesn't matter. I have no direct experience with their application process though, nor do I know someone who graduated from Harvard.

Still, you should try if you wanna go there bro.

>>432929

Then just do it. See the world, get a clear mind, bang some oz girls, forget about /biz/raelites and silly IB for a bit.
Learn what you want to do. You will see that, if you have a passion for something, then your school doesn't matter much.

>>432930

You need to be able to sell your idea. A decent professional background can't hurt as well.

[Anonymous No.432943]

>>432460
Who the fuck cares if kids look down on you if you're making 6 figures a year with zero debt. Trades are very very good if you want money. Most uni grads will never catch up after they pay their debts off

[Anonymous No.432946]

>>432930
What kind of business do you run?

[Anonymous No.432947]

>>432940
>I guess it doesn't matter
Fuck.

>you should try
I have pretty much no chance of getting there considering the applicant pool. I'm an international from an under represented country but unless they've got quotas, which is highly unlikely, I'm not getting in.

Do you think places like Dartmouth, Cornell (second tier Ivies basically) and good but not top schools such as NYU are still valuable in such competitive environments?

[Anonymous No.432950]

>>432940
>You need to be able to sell your idea.
You can copy the idea of other business and improve it, most successful corporations did this.
> A decent professional background can't hurt as well
I am not saying it does, but normalfags think majoring in BA immediately grants them a business, or the skill to begin one

[Anonymous No.432970]

>>432946
I am third generation of a fashion industry, (I have 39 POS and a factory where I produce most of my stock)
My grandfather started this business with my grandmother when they were employees of a similar factory.(they both didn't pass third grade) My grandfather learned all he needed and started to make his own clothes to sell in bulk. After that they afforded to buy a bigger factory and they lived in there with my father and his siblings. The business grew and they started to buy retail points in malls. After decades of running the business, I dropped highs school and began working in another factory. I learned and began making some improvements in our own, which catapulted all the sales and made the business grow even larger. Now we are thinking of trying new markets in other business,(right now we are evaluating some restaurants and cafés) the thing is that you can easily make a business, you just need to go out of your shell

[Anonymous No.432974]

>>432970
Neat, so you didn't start anything and you're simply taking daddys business just as your dad did. Not everyone has that luxury.

[Anonymous No.432978]

>>432974
its not that easy m8
i just had the right education for it
now i can start one of my own easily

[Anonymous No.432979]

>>432947

Sorry bro, I'm from Europe and don't know any of these schools besides NYU (which is considered pretty good here, but I don't know its exact brand value for, say, IB).

>>432950

I was referring to the whole "sell" thing mainly, not the idea itself.

Still, there are businesses which monetize and specialize in this process of copying. Don't know if you heard about "Rocket Internet" (big venture capitalist from Germany, think Zalando, Jamba, Foodpanda, ...), it's literally their business model.
The problem is that they have a huge advantage in the process since the main thing that matters here is resources and how fast you can set up all the infrastructure needed. Even bank loans can't keep up with that.

Not arguing this can't work out, but you need to know what the hell you're doing.

>>432974

Man the fuck up, this self-pitying bullshit hurts to read.

[Anonymous No.432988]

>>432979
>you need to know what the hell you're doing

>work in any business you have interest/like
>learn what they do and how they do it
>make your own, but improving it
>??(work)??
>SUPER MEGA profit
there is a market theory that if you sell a product near similar other products, you have a 20% guaranteed sales.

[Anonymous No.432993]

>>432979
Self pity? Who the fuck do you know whos parents own businesses that are going to be passed down? I can count them on one hand. Shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.432996]

>>431909
That's mathematics major you dickshit.

[Anonymous No.433004]

>>432120
Why not anymore? Did the quality diminish or something?

Just found out about him and after a few vids seems based.

[Anonymous No.433020]

>>433004
He doesn't really have good perspective. You start to notice. His books suffer the same.

[Anonymous No.433027]

>>432993

>baaaw my dad doesn't own a business he can pass down to me

Seriously, why do you care? You wouldn't have posted this if you didn't care.

Your dad doesn't own a business, so? Can't hold up to that guy you replied to? Think you're gonna be shit compared to him for life? Is that what you REALLY want to think, to be?

If you're really fine with this, deep down, being an inferior faggot who's gonna sit in a cubicle for all his life and copypaste shit in Excel for people who got lucky and/or got ambition, then go and join that college now, throw a dice and pick whatever major comes up because it doesn't even fucking matter with you, keep living like you do, keep that mentality, and die without having done anything meaningful with your life around the year 2060 something.

If not, then go and join a gym, in case you don't want to do the gap year thing I suggested to you before. It's a great way to get out of that "I didn't start life with X/others have it soo much easier than me" mentality.
Work hard, figure out what you love, try out shit (coding is something you can do for free, finance is kinda possible with Bitcoin nowadays as well, there's tons of great math resources on /sci/, ...).
Protip: it doesn't matter where you started if you can get your ass up and get good at something. If >>432970 didn't have talent, ambition and/or was clever, he wouldn't have done shit for this business.

[Anonymous No.433033]

>>433027
Why do you give so much of a fuck that I'm saying something that is totally worth mentioning. Fuck off. You're putting way too much thought into the point. It's not really applicable to most people. How fucking stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.433041]

>>433033
stay slave faggot.
My business needs people like you anyway

[Anonymous No.433046]

>>433041
It's not your business. It's your grandfathers.

[Anonymous No.433051]

>>433046
I proudly say my grandfathers founded this. My father and his father are too old to manage this as they used to do. I run this and have improved it since the day I began working. When they die, they will rest knowing the thing they created and the time they invested is not going to waste. Hope someday you make your ancestors that proud.

[Anonymous No.433055]

>>433051
Hopefully you don't fuck it up.

[Anonymous No.433063]

>>433055
I have passed the challenge
hopefully my son won't fuck up

[Anonymous No.433072]

>>433063
He probably will, considering how much of a faggot he his.

[Anonymous No.433076]

>>433072
lel you ran out of arguments


see you next time /biz/

[Anonymous No.433096]

>>433076
old faggot detected. doesn't even read post ID

[Anonymous No.433169]

>>433096
You sound like a faggot throughout this thread. And I dislike you.

Just get ready to campaign for Hillary/Gore2016, and collect your welfare checks until you die of diabeetus.

[Anonymous No.433174]

>>433169
It's not nice to dislike people. I don't dislike you.

[Anonymous No.433212]

>>433174
>It's not nice to dislike people
Silly boy....IF you ever enter the real world it is going to eat you alive.

[Anonymous No.433281]

>>433212
This isn't the real world.

[Anonymous No.433294]

>>432899
you must handle billions in assets.

[Anonymous No.433300]

>>433294
kek

[Anonymous No.433302]

>>432947
if your grades are good apply to all ivy league schools, push your probability of getting into one, youre from an under represented country, they might take you in just because of that. just apply

[Anonymous No.433314]

>>433300
OP, move to NYC, work a shitty retail job where you have to make commission, learn to sell, make money. live with roommates, apply to a cuny (any major because no one really cares) and financial aid, if you really need money from your grandma only use if you really need it. after 25 credits and banging gpa apply to ivy league as transfer student, intern with what ever intern opportunities they have if you make it to any ivy league. ill stop there because by then you will figure it out on your own.

[Anonymous No.433329]

>>433314
I don't have any money to move. Why can't I just go to my local Penn State branch and do the same damn thing? I honestly would be surprised if it was ever possible to transfer from Penn State branch after one or two years to an Ivy League simply because I have 4.0 and awesome extracurriculars. If that's even possible, I'd be surprised.

[Anonymous No.433331]

>>433314
>>433314
make sure you read up on everything related to the business, finance, economy world. learn all that shit. youll find something you like. i.e. went to kkr for a "job visit" the investment club at my school was able to organize (apparently one of the guys recognized a kkr bag on a lady that happened to work at the firm itself and happened to be the managing director [she didnt attend any ivy league], they were taking the train), ok so one of the associates that attended cornell, got a degree majoring in hotel administration and minored in real estate. magna cum laude tho. so what im trying to get at is that you should have an idea on what you like major it research it, youll find your way eventually. its up to you to take the first step. everyone here gave great advice but yeah be aware, get prepared to eat shit and ask for seconds.

[Anonymous No.433333]

>>433329
>>433329
ok then do that!! and yes you can its all up to you to actually achieve the high gpa and do extracurriculars!!

[Anonymous No.433336]

OP, current IB intern from Vanderbilt. It's not an Ivy League school, but I make up for it with personal connections (Both my parents work in wall street, I live in Manhattan).

You're a fucking wimp. Everyone in this thread has been giving you great advice and you keep on brushing it off, which is probably what you're going to do when you read this post.

Before you even say it, I'm going to address it.

>You have parents who work on Wall Street, so they got you a job, not everyone has the luxury you have.

Man the fuck up. It's the real world, not kindergarten. The world isn't fair, and if you keep on blaming the world for your failures, then you might as well give up now, because the world sure as hell isn't changing for you.

Everyone in IB is smart, personable, and they take care of their own shit. We don't have patience for people who can't own up to their own mistakes or spend their time whining. There's a line of unemployed people knocking at the door--some of them with Harvard MBA's or resumes you can only dream of--and they still can't get a job.

And here are you, claiming that the world did you wrong. You're infinitely curious about why the world hasn't come to your doorstep and presented you with a job offer from BAML or Goldman.

It's because
1) you don't have any fucking credentials
2) you seem like a massive bitch
3) you make excuses for everything

also, fuck your "college prep boarding school". I went to Choate. Quit pretending it's something.

Fuck reading this thread made me angry.

[Anonymous No.433337]

>>433281
You don't live in the real world. You live in your mothers basement, are 18 years old, and your only life problem is "IDK what to major in guise please halp".

This thread has proven that you don't understand how to accept criticism or guidance, and you come off as just another "entitled millennial".
>thinking a ba in finance will give you a $300k annual salary

Should you ever enter the business world it will chew you up and spit you out.

You shouldn't be worrying what major guarantees you the highest salary right now. You need to enter the workforce and learn how to behave like a man....

I don't mean that as an insult, but from what you've posted so far you seem rather juvenile for 18 years old. Perhaps you didn't have a father figure growing up, you need to get out there and work with older guys.

[Anonymous No.433338]

>>433333
Would it really be that beneficial if it was even likely that I'd get in? I guess connections.. also nice quints.

[Anonymous No.433348]

>>433336
Is this true? The whole "my parents work in wall street" is probably the only reason you got the internship, so trying to be some big swinging dick ITT telling me what's what falls flat on its face for me.

>>433337
The OP was really a joke and I was curious about a degree in Finance. If I thought it was possible to make that much money from a BA or even MBA, I'd do it in a heart beat.

and I actually didn't have a father figure growing up. It's interesting that you guessed that.
>feels

I've had one job and it was at a country club that my cousins friends mom managed.
>connections

my cousins and I all worked there. I've never had any other job. College for me starts in about three weeks so I don't think I have the time to just jump into construction and grow a beard or some shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.433352]

>>433338
hell yeah it would be, because the big banks all recruit from top schools, and even if you dont, dont worry not everyone goes to a prestigious firm straight out of college, all the ppl at kkr worked at banks (credit suisse, jp morgan, etc with postions as all types of analysts) first moved around in different positions yeah they all went to ivyleague except for two which went to emory and the managing director which went to university of rochester and she told us about how she pushed and kicked to get interviewed by kkr when she first applied, and its because of someone she knew. blah blah blah all in all take everyones advice here, yes they all talked you down, but thats whats gonna happen when you get into that industry. you have a luxury i dont. TIME. youre 19 im 23, i joined the military as a reservist (DONT FUCKING DO IT), so for me i have to take a little longer to do shit. at least im eating shit with all the nuances already im sure itll be worst in the financial world but hey who the fuck cares. suck it up move on. its not what the shit they talk to you its what you can prove. work your little ass off get good grades meet people, A LOT OF PPL. and youll get somewhere, youll find what yourself eventually.

[Anonymous No.433357]

>>433348
http://www.businessinsider.com/5-tips-for-a-wall-street-internship-2014-7

[Anonymous No.433359]

>>433348
http://www.careers-in-finance.com/ib.htm

[Anonymous No.433368]

>>433357
>>433359
>>433348
read these OP this is the basic idea you should get from all of this and the trash talking you got.

[Anonymous No.433369]

>>433348

This is insane. You can't even fucking read. You posted the exact reply I stated in my original post.

I'm sorry you didn't have a father figure, but it doesn't excuse the atrocious way you act. I know 8-year olds who are more mature than you are.

I'll make it easy for you because pity seems to be what you want.

You're right. I only have this internship because of my parents. I'm riding off their coattails.

But you don't have parents who work on Wall Street, so by your logic, you'll never get a job there.

Enjoy your poverty.

[Anonymous No.433374]

>>433348
ohh and youll never make 300k a year youll make like 120 + bonuses. Warren Buffet's annual income is 100k..

[Anonymous No.433377]

>>433368
Thanks man. I'm reading them right now.

[Anonymous No.433426]

>>432761
>>432773
Holy fuck you're both so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. Literally everyone who has given you advice spelled it out and you both just go on asking the same fucking questions over and over.

This is all it comes down to kids. USE YOUR HEAD. THINK for YOURSELF. No school can teach you that skill. If you WANT to do something, search for the path and work at it, fucking google it for fucks sake, you DON'T NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL IF YOU HAVE DRIVE. No matter the job, no matter the business, no matter what.

The tricky thing about school is it will make it *easier* to learn the things having to do with the field you want to go into. You NEED to know WHAT that is. If you DO NOT have DRIVE in the field you want to go into, you will not succeed. With that being said, if you don't have the mind to pick up whats been said here and use that drive and start finding that path to what YOU WANT TO DO (Not what in theory will make you the most money in the end and that's a MAYBE) then obviously the fields you are thinking of going into are simply not for you/may not be as prosperous as you seem to think.

[Anonymous No.433430]

>>433426
take out all that trash talk and take the positive things out of it OP >>433377 , hes right

[Anonymous No.433435]

>>431909
maybe if you went to an ivy league school for your MBA and was top of your class, and aggressively interned during your entire time, you might be able to scrape out a 150k + commission (which can be a lot).

[Anonymous No.433438]

I'm just reading a bunch from careers in finance from >>433359 and holy fucking shit is this normal? That seems insane for a first year with a bachelors. I'm starting to understand why this shit is so competitive.

[Anonymous No.433440]

>>432186
>2014
>mba
just get a masters in psychology if you want to piss your money away, it's easier

[Anonymous No.433442]

>>433438
>>433438
thats why you have to bust your ass working, like i said, be prepared to eat shit and ask for seconds.

[Anonymous No.433448]

>>432850
>petroleum engineering
>what is a price crash
>what is the 1980s price crash
enjoy being out of work cyclically, faggot

[Anonymous No.433457]

>>433442
Yeah, It's a bit clearer to me now.

[Anonymous No.433460]

>>433457
anything else fgt

[Anonymous No.433464]

>>433460
I'm just trying to figure out how I could possibly transfer into an Ivy League from a Penn State branch. Is it really just perfect grades.. awesome extracurriculars?

[Anonymous No.433469]

>>433464
>>433464
look up the requirements on their websites. and yeah basically high grades not necessarily 4.0 but aim for it and lots of extracurriculars, join the investment club, accountants club, stock trading club, etc. get positions in each and everyone of them, if not just aim for it. meet ppl trust me. Ken Mehlman was there when we went to KKR he told us that his best year as an undergrad was when he joined the fraternity at his school. he got a crazy gpa that semester made it into his fraternity, and played sports if im not mistaken, show that youre a hardcharger and overachiever at everything enjoy it. because youre gonna be giving up on your social life as you know it. and thats not a bad thing because you should make it your social life to 3work hard and interact with those hardworkers as well, surround yourself with hardworkers and those that take initiative. itll rub onto you trust me.

[Anonymous No.433471]

>>433469
*work

[Anonymous No.433472]

>>433464
internships, lots and lots of internships.

also, don't be afraid to take a break in between graduating and doing your mba.

get some more real world experience first, it'll make your application to a top tier business school much more competitive.

[Anonymous No.433473]

>>433464
>>433464
ivy league schools are not good just because of their endowments or because mommy and daddy can pay for it. its because every single student that makes it worked their ass off.

[Anonymous No.433474]

>>433464
>Is it really just perfect grades.. awesome extracurriculars?
>just
Most people fail to meet those standards, don't assume it's simple. I can reduce many complex ideas to a simple statement like "X is just Y and Z," but it doesn't mean it's easy to get Y or Z, nor does it mean you truly understand them.

I'm not saying this to put you down, but to make you aware that it's not simple once you get to dealing with it.

[Anonymous No.433477]

>>433472
>>433472
yes this too!!

[Chris No.433478]

dude email me if you want ill be willing to give you advice, and learn with you along the way no homo.

[Anonymous No.433481]

>>433473

[Anonymous No.433482]

Fuck, looking at these requirements for transferring into Harvard.. it's a pretty heavy shit. Is Harvard really the only way to have a realistic chance in IB from a huge company or is it any Ivy League? i'm presuming that Harvard is easily the best school for business, though.

>>433481
I really doubt that being the president is easy.

[Chris No.433495]

>>433482
i mightve been too broad on the topic, but i know i didnt mentioned any specific ivy league school... there are so many firms out there that handle billions in assets where you will get the salary you mentioned above granted you work as hard you can. in kkr the only harvard alumni was ken mehlman everyone else went to columbia cornell dartmouth the wharton school (upenn) the only ivy league that doesnt accept transfers is princeton. that being said its not necessary but you should strive for it. the newest guys that were in the talk with us at kkr were from emory in GA, just try to get to the best school you can, it doesnt have to be an ivy league. and yes it would be nice to go the the best business school you deem "the best" theyre all good. but its up to you.


>>433481
this guy. see it all goes hand in hand, youre talking about a member of one of the most prominent families in the US his family has been involved in politics for generations. that being said, not all C average students will have the chance to become president.

[Anonymous No.433498]

>>433481
>haha bush is so stoopid
>we libtards now

[Anonymous No.433500]

>>433495
Alright, well that makes it a bit easier I guess.

[Chris No.433501]

>>433498
exactly what went thru my head

[Chris No.433503]

>>433500
its easier than you think, its just not that easy when you go in blind, you just have to put up with all the bullshit, but basically thats any path in life.

[Chris No.433505]

>>433500
did i answer all your questions?

[Anonymous No.433507]

>>433505
I guess so.. nothing else that I can think of. I'll keep your email. I appreciate the advice, really.

[Anonymous No.433512]

Am I retard for going to school in Arizona?

Apparently ASU has become quite the school for Finance

[Anonymous No.433513]

>>433507
you got it. i mean im all against the trash talking but you need that shit to weed out the weak and undeserving.

[Anonymous No.433515]

>>433513
It makes sense now.

[Anonymous No.433516]

>>433512
i might be talking shit, but any Division one school is a top school but you can always google any graduate schools that are the top for finance.

[Anonymous No.433522]

>>433482
Yale, Dartmouth, Stanford, etc etc.
Ivy league or bust.

[Anonymous No.433529]

>>433515
>>433522
see what i mean by taking the advice here with a grain of salt, stanfords not an ivy league, and its not "or bust". just work hard, be the best at everything get known NETWORK MOTHERFUCKER NETWORK.

[Anonymous No.433581]

>>432110
People always say "you will never be challenged in the workforce." Well no fucking shit, they make college hard as hell nowadays. By the time you're out, everything is easy.

[Anonymous No.433588]

>>432157
Medicine isn't anything math. Well, it depends on what your specialization is. But then again, I think Doctors only have to use stat after they graduate and are on the job.

[Anonymous No.433591]

>>432840
I agree with this, go CS or learn a trade.

Fuck Engineering. Nobody really likes that shit.

Medicine is fine if you're okay with working your ass off.

Better yet, become an Entreprenuer. The only true way to get rich in America.

[Anonymous No.433625]

>>433063
you son WILL fuck it up if not you.

it goes like this. Grandfather make business, son improves it, grandson spend it all on stupid shit, because they are spoiled by living in such wealth, like in Hilton family.

It was described in some book.

[Anonymous No.433631]

I have to get in on this, if only for a couple mins.

For one thing, a finance degree is not a guarantee of anything, not even some shitty job at a bank or whatever. The guys who make (real) money ask the other people who make money how they made money.

Answer? They took risks, typically by way of either participating in long-term or short-term investments. Either of which you can get involved in, should you decide that's your scene.

But a job? Nah, jobs making $300,000.00 a year are held by people who (almost literally) kill the competition in the company. And you'll be lucky to get there by 30.

Cut out the middle man, create your own income.

[Anonymous No.433661]

Just go join a hedge fund bro. You'll have a driveway like my 30 year old friend here in no time.

[Anonymous No.433688]

Hey OP you will make it!
dont listen to these fucktards they just want to take your money
most of //b/iz/ trades stocks and they dont want to go bankrupt with finance majors getting in the game

[Anonymous No.433764]

>>432943
>muh debt
We're not all American.

[notop No.433833]

Is it wrong I would rather have a critical strike career that either nets 30 k or 1m annum than a solid 100k annum for the rest of my life? The thing I think I would love about finance is being able to financially capitalize on global trends and always having your annual income increasing, regardless of how much your job pays?

[Anonymous No.433865]

>>433661
I'd be afraid of my Lambo getting keyed by a poor socialist.

[Anonymous No.433930]

>>432267
man, don't mind them, just work hard, fucking pessimistic faggots

[Anonymous No.433946]

Know your technicals and don't be socially incapable and you can get in. Toughest part is getting the interview op and you just need to hustle like fuck for that.

> As in US BB corp fin team

[Anonymous No.433947]

>>433946
Also by 25/26 you can hit ~$250k gross if you're top rated, firm is having a good year and you start at 21 + stay on promo track

[Anonymous No.433991]

>>433947
I'd be starting at 23. Honestly, working like 100 hours a week for 200K a year doesn't even seem that great. I know you make more the longer you're in but jesus I don't know. Doing this would be tougher than getting struck by lightning twice.

>get in the zone all year at PS branch
>start application at Ivies beginning of second year (grades, interviews, SATs, essays, clubs, etc)
>somehow, the planets aligning and the forces of the galaxy formulating inside of me, I'm accepted to one
>go last two years at say dartmouth for example while getting internship at investment bank
>get job at investment bank at 23 making 200K a year after bonuses maybe, working 100 hours a week

Fuck, I sort of became motivated from this thread to try to get into an Ivy anyway.. not even for IB connections.. just to see if I could do it. It'd already be insanely hard to do that, let alone get into some crazy IB like Goldman Sachs.. that's crazy. It seems like that'd be a one in a billion shot.

[Anonymous No.433996]

>>433991
do you honestly think its that hard?

[Anonymous No.434001]

>>433996
I've never done it so I don't know how hard it truly is. I looked at a lot about goldman sachs last night and saw that it's like 3% chance of getting in and that the people that had internships there are most likely to get it. That's for all highly qualified people that went to Ivies and other good schools. It just seems like i'm going to have to jump through so many more hoops just to get a shot.

[Anonymous No.434010]

Going to an ivy league for finance will ultimately mean nothing if you

1. Are fucking retarded with business and finance
2. Aren't a good people person

If any of these things apply to you, you might as well just give up now. Don't think your boss/supervisor is going to give a shit about you going to an Ivy if you don't fucking produce results after a certain amount of time. Something like 50% of Harvard grads go to Wall Street so its not like you're going to be given super special treatment if you get there

[Anonymous No.434019]

>>434010
I think I'm a fairly okay people person. I usually make friends without trying. I don't know about #1 being that I've never owned a business/not in college for finance yet.. I just know that I want to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. That's really the name of the game, right?

[Anonymous No.434029]

>>433764
Damn right you ain't.

[Anonymous No.434513]

>>434001
just jump into it youll learn along the way youre young and have the whole world ahead of you you got this bruh

[Anonymous No.435416]

>>433625
I am the grandson