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So red pill we on who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?

Apparently the guys behind Segwit2X want to make mining less decentralised.

Blockstream seems to be against Segwit2X, some say because they love high fees.

which side are you on?

>> No.4236025

>>4236004
Segwit2X is a product of the Jews. That should be all you need to know.

>> No.4236084

>>4236004
The Segwit2X guys have no decent programmers.
S2X don't want to wait on the programmers to program things that makes bitcoin better, so they made an agreement to just go ahead and make the blocks bigger.
Programmers want more time, because this is important and don't want to screw it up.
The problem is basically trying to make BTC an actual currency.
Big blocks are good. I mean, it's a good idea, if you want twice as many transactions per second (a total of like 10, lol)
but programmers on Bitcoin want to actually make something that will actually scale. So things like second layer and lightning network and stuff is the only actual way to reach VISA levels.
Some people who don't understand how that works think that then you will lose money, or you will pay more fees, or that it will be more centralized, but it's just not that way at all.

some think that bigger blocks will make it more centralized, some think lightning networks will.
But then in both camps there are retards who are just taking this like a religion or something and go to extremes to insult the other side

>> No.4236103

1X = Christian fundamentalists
2X = big bang Jews
BCH = Chink coin

http://www.strawpoll.me/14347760

>> No.4236120

>>4236004
They are all friends behind curtains making a whole lot of money of these scams: bcash, bgold and b2x are made up forks designed to increment the amount of BTC after the splits.

bcash solves nothing, bgold solves nothing, b2x solves nothing.

>> No.4236136

>>4236084

It doesn't take any incredible programming talent to increase 1 MB to 2MB.

>> No.4236153

>>4236004
>which side are you on?
whichever one wins

>> No.4236172

>>4236084
>trying to make BTC an actual currency.
All i know is that it once functioned more like a currency than it does today.

>> No.4236204

From best to worst

Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin SegShit1x
Bitcoin SegShit1x Gold
Bitcoin SegShit2x

>> No.4236209

>>4236136
yeah, I never implied the opposite.
The thing is, if S2X became BTC, and traditional BTC programmers left, there won't be anybody to keep adding features to bitcoin

>>4236172
Yes, some miners are spamming the network so that fees are higher. (Just google for some proof)
While fees are indeed high right now, some of the problems come from wallets not calculating the fees correctly and overpaying

>> No.4236330

>>4236136
they are doubling the block 'weight', not the size.

The possible maximum size with segwit2x will be 8mb blocks (filled with segwit tx's)

>> No.4236364

>>4236172
As did gold

>> No.4236395

>>4236330
That forces you to use segwit transactions some people don't want to be forced to use segwit.

>> No.4236436

>>4236209
There's no shortage of programmers.

>> No.4236499

>>4236436
Yes there is:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/the-blockchain-developer-shortage-emerging-trends-and-perspectives-1477930838/

>>4236395
You can still use non-segwit. The rest of us will get cheaper fees and make more room in the blocks for you.
When LN is active then we can ALL finally use BTC with tiny fees and instant confirmations. But you can still use the regular bulky transactions if you like.

>> No.4236781

>>4236004
>Apparently the guys behind Segwit2X want to make mining less decentralised.
Wrong. That was the case for Bitcoin Gold. This fork is just to increase block size

>> No.4236885

>>4236781

No.
Those who are against Segwit2X claim it will make bitcoin less decentralised.

>> No.4236956

>>4236004
I'm just here to make some gains trading crypto. I'm not one of you fucking cultists, so I don't really care who's the 'good guy' and 'bad guy'.

>> No.4236979
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4236979

Will bitcoin cash ever be worth more than bitcoin?

>> No.4237030

Segwit2x is shit and just delaying the inevitable. Leave BTC alone

>> No.4237062
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4237062

Whats the difference between the lightning network and fractional reserves?

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4237118

sure are a lot of psyoped corecucks in here
>muh lightning network
>implying it won't just be a huge blockstream cash grab
desu I hope their greed finally kills core this fork

>> No.4237164

what happens to my legacy btc once the forkening happens?

>> No.4237212

>>4236004
2x is a Jewish Trojan horse sabatoage attempt from Rothschild to destory BTC and turn it into centralized pay pal 2.0

Srsly though, fuck 2x

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4237229

>>4237212
>>4237118
I am reading that BTC2x is trading at ~15% of BTC core on futures markets; does anyone know where these quotes come from? The majority of hashing power is still signaling 2x, right? Which coin will take the BTC ticker?

>> No.4237248

>>4236979
If Segwit2x wins then yes

>> No.4237258

>>4237229
Bch will

>> No.4237458

Can someone just spell it out for me? Is this a hard fork? As in, will my bitcoin get converted into two different coins at the time of the fork like it did with BCH?

>> No.4237467

>>4237229

Its about 19% of a Bitcoin.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/

Most exchanges are saying the current Bitcoin will remain BTC

>> No.4237505

>>4237467
So why does anyone think b2x will become the main chain? b2x is supposed to lower transaction fees even more, all the miners have to do is stay on the more profitable chain and b2x is dead.

>> No.4237521

>>4237458
You'll have two different coins but there's no guarantee that you'll be able to spend one independently of the other.

>> No.4237583

>>4237505

Well miners are still signally support for Segwit2X, nothing binding though.

>>4237521

Even without replay protection you can manipulate your transaction that prevents it from being replayed on the other chance.

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4237733

>>4236004
Having an IQ of over 140 and a PhD in computer science, I'm obviously on the side of Bitcoin Core.

>> No.4237742

>>4236209
>The thing is, if S2X became BTC, and traditional BTC programmers left, there won't be anybody to keep adding features to bitcoin
all these wonderful features like RBF, segshit and so on? Do you really think that NO programmers will be interested in developing on btc1?

>Yes, some miners are spamming the network so that fees are higher.
It has nothing to do with spamming. Fees are higher because blocks are full because people use bitcoin more.

>> No.4237760

>>4237733
This alone tells me to be in BCH then.

>> No.4237763

>>4237248
The opposite. If 2x wins BCH has less of an advantage

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4237772

>>4236204

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4237802

>>4237760
Huh, I didn't expect this kind of reaction. Why though?

>> No.4237809

>>4236979
BCH. Max 8% valuation of Bicoin. It has been scam fuded so much the last couple of weeks, it will crash immediately pre segwit ala Link.

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4237852

>>4237760

>> No.4237892

If SWX2 is successful it will kill Bitcoin and crypto in the process.

>> No.4237906

>>4237852
S2X will replace Bitcoin Cash. That is why the futures are trading so high, and why Barry is dumping Bitcoin Cash. Do you Neets even look out of your basement window?

>> No.4237916

>>4237892
no it wont, it will make bitcoin usable again for other things than speculation

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4237982

>>4237892
Idiot. Mongoloid. IQ Challenged Retard. S2X, as admitted by the script kiddie developer, has fatal flaws, even though he petulantly blames it on core 14. therefore, S2X will have to limp along on core 14 for about 6 months, until he sorts his shit out. It WILL eventually replace Bitcoin Cash, but will NEVER 'replace" or "Kill" Core Bitcoin. Repeat after me NOTHING WILL REPLACE BIUTCOIN. NOTHING WILL KILL BITCOIN. I AM A DUMB FUCKING SCAM FUDER WORKING FOR TWEEKA AND TONE DEAF, TWO FELON SCAMMERS BARRED FROM TRADING SECURITIES WHO SHORTED BITCOIN."

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4237996

>>4237982

>> No.4238028

>>4237982
dumbass

segwit 1x has already replaced bitcoin

>> No.4238059

>>4238028
Do everyone a favor, and put that extension cord in the corner to good use.