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One hour of work and I now have this. Anyone else making money from AdMob

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.discover.noisediary

>> No.412883

just cloned this and released it 10 times under different accounts.

thanks for the millions, retart.

>> No.412888

>>412883

And the problem is? If you need to 'make' you something different, why not ask. I'd be more than happy to help you.

Retard. The word is retard.

>> No.412908

How much u making?

>> No.412919

>>412908
this

>> No.412935

>>412868
>dem bandwidth costs

>> No.412949

>>412868
What exactly is admob?
A monetization of an app product?

>> No.412966

>>412935
No server/bandwidth costs at all.

Only put it in the Play Store today so at the moment: nothing.

Google AdMob

>> No.413001

1 hour of work? What did you use to make the app?

>> No.413014

>>412908
>>412919
>Get paid every time users click on ads in your app
Call me a cynic, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

>> No.413017

>>413014
How much do you get paid per click?
It's it possible to get paid on a download basis? I doubt many users actually click links.

>> No.413038

>Have every conceivable advertising domain in my hosts.txt file on my Android phone
>No ads ever load, not even on OP's app
Thanks OP

for anyone interested, here's a start:
http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
just replace all the 0.0.0.0 with 127.0.0.1 for Android

>> No.413114

>>413038
What exactly is this for, what does it do?

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>>413038
>http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
i want to know whats this for?

ANyone want to join the biggest adsense click eschange group to make $$ with google adsense

http://pastebin.com/yzRtByur

>> No.413803

>>413799
>>405271

forgot the link to the thread.

>> No.414728

>>413001
Phonegap/Cordova (HTML5/JS/CSS3)

>>413017
About 0.30AUD per click at the moment.

I think this has more potential than things like this...
>>413799
>>413803

>> No.415048

>>412868
I make $400-$600 a week from Admob from Android apps

>> No.415049

>>413017
>How much do you get paid per click?
>It's it possible to get paid on a download basis? I doubt many users actually click links.

Android always had a way to track ads to downloads, but for Adwords and Admob, conversions are now there even if an app doesn't have those broadcast receivers set up. My advertisements are based on cost per conversions. I've been paying 2-3 cents an install for Spanish language ads for one app, more money for other languages and apps.

>> No.415062

>>415048
Proof?

>> No.415100

>>415062
My aunt's roomate's grandfather's best friend's sister makes $700 a week on Admob from Android apps!

>> No.415129

>>415048

What kind of apps do you have? Just random shit or actually useful apps?

>> No.415130 [DELETED] 

What software did you use? Android Studio?

>> No.415135
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415135

I'm presonally making about 100-150 eur a month off completely random apps.

Does anyone else do that?

>> No.415138

>>415135
so.. you just program a card game app which shows ads at the start, random people from the internet download it and you get ad revenue

or what, why do you get money for these apps

>> No.415140

>>415138

basically yeah. Hopefully soon I'll get to expand on iOS. That will be a goldmine.

>> No.415173

>>415135
Those are the money from the ads or from the downloads?

>> No.415174

Well currently i am getting 1-2$ a day not much but i am not doing anything just clicking for 5 minutes
http://www.clixsense.com/?6579610

>> No.415204

>>415173

ads

>> No.415206

so i can basically make a lot of apps and get money from them?

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415223

>>415206
Yes

>> No.415244

>>415223

what kind of apps do you have online atm? And what platforms?

>> No.415266

Some fucking shit questions in this thread.

I am currently learning programming (python), how hard is it to learn to work with andriod SKD?

What are the types of ads google doesnt allow? I'm guessing porn, illegal things. What about grey areas like manga? I see there are serveral manga apps for buying but no manga viewer for sites like mangafox. Would an app for those sites be removed?

What if it was an app that provided links to view grey-area stuff?

>> No.415270

>>412868
OP Q for you: I can see that you have 15 apps and none of them are doing anything. Downloads are pathetic. No ratings.

You're just pumping shity apps out, are you making money of this?

>> No.415312

>>415266
Drop Python and learn Java.

>> No.415318

What language is required for this?

What hoops do you need to go through to put an app on the android play store and apple app store?

>> No.415370

>>415318

Check out Gamemaker, Construct 2. Best for simple games and shitty soundboard type of stuff.

For more serious apps, look up Android Studio, Eclipse, Phonegap etc.

Basically for Google Play, developer account costs 25$ and if you're in a country that supports Google merchant, then you can sell apps too.

Apple Store is way more tricky. It's 100$ a year and you need to physically have a Mac. Even if your developing on a PC. Plus they review each app before getting it online.

Sure Apple is more retarded, but you can make even more money there. And to all of you "passive income" fags who do Swagbucks or whatever the fuck you do, start making apps. Don't just pump out bullshit, put a little effort in it and it'll be worth it.

>> No.415438

>>415129
>What kind of apps do you have? Just random shit or actually useful apps?

One app I wrote is definitely useful, it's the only app on Play which can handle certain file formats on an Android. My version 1 took me 4 days to write. It's a niche market though only 80,000 downloads.

I have other apps that are varying degrees of useful.

>> No.415441

>>415266
Android sdk is one of the worst apis I've ever worked with. It's convoluted and bloated as fuck.

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>>415100
I actually make more money then shown because....
I also have ads on Millennial Media and Inmobi
I have another Admob account as well. The money the other one makes is a fraction of this though.

>> No.415460

>>415438
How much ad revenue have you made from the 80k downloads?

>> No.415483

>>415370
Do you have to buy the software such as gamemaker, construct 2?

If i were to pirate any of those programs would i still be able to put my app on the play store?

>> No.415489

>>415445
good work!

>> No.415508

>>415483
gamemaker goes on sale frequently for like $10.

>> No.415528

>>415460
>How much ad revenue have you made from the 80k downloads?

The formula is probably some mix of how many current installs you have, how active they are, and how many new installs you get a day.

The general formula that has held up for me is every month you get a dollar for every 650 active installs you have. But a more exact formula would take in more data points.

>> No.415657

>>415318
>>415370

Easiest way to get apps in quickly and easily: Phonegap/Cordova

>> No.415660

>>415657

But what software you Use?

>> No.415665

>>415660
Download the Android SDK
Download Eclipse and the ADT plugin
Download Cordova

http://docs.phonegap.com/en/3.5.0/guide_overview_index.md.html#Overview

>> No.415666

>>415665

Or try this one... A little easier

http://www.mobiledevelopersolutions.com/home/start

>> No.415667

>make an app where you have to click furiously and can lose very quickly
>on death occasionally a pop up at shows up, making the player accidentally click it
>make mad dosh

>> No.415668

>>415667

Sounds legit. What do you call it?

>> No.415669

>>415668
Piano tiles

>> No.415672

>>415667

Stuff like this is illegal now

>> No.415674

>>415657
Would you recommend one over the other?

>> No.415676

Is there smthng similar to MIT app creator? With coding blocks and shit?

>> No.415677

>>415672
Is it? Is there anywhere that I could read what would be "legal" in apps?

>> No.415678

>>415677

AFAIK google just changed its policies about ads like that

>> No.415680

and no one still downloads OPs apps.

>> No.415687

>>415678
So would it be legal on the iOS App store?

>> No.415694

Op. What did u use to make that you said what app?

>> No.415705

>>415694

This
>>415666

And some PHP. Unfortunately I dont have the php and havent deleted the app or tried to rewrite the PHP end

>> No.415749

>>415669
>Piano tiles
piano tiles?
PIANO TILES?
don't fucking tell me you invented piano tiles
no way, you copied it
no way

>> No.415795

>>415749

Waiting

>> No.415808

>>415749
>>415795
No, it wasn't. I was just giving an example. I wasn't even the same guy that made the idea.

>> No.415974

>>415441
Bullshit. Try Windoze...

>> No.416039

>>415974
C# is stupid easy to get up and running, you get to use the Visual Studio IDE to make your App which is stupid powerful and will hold your damn hand for nearly everything, and the WinMo SDK is clear and concise.

That being said, nobody bothers with it because nobody buys WinMo phones to begin with.

>> No.416074

>>416039

Its sad because nobody buys the phones because there's no apps and nobody makes the apps because nobody buys the phones

>> No.416110

>>415483
yes, if you pirate game maker with .apk export you'll be able to put your apps up

>> No.416114

>>416110

And it's sweet as fuck. The best part is that Gamemaker is so easy, yet powerful and even a baby can export apk's there.

Definitely gonna buy the Master Collection some day.

>> No.416163

>>412868

OP here. Just uploaded a newer version of Discover to the store and it should be there in the next few hours.

Hope you enjoy the changes that are made.

>> No.416208

>>416163
and if anyone wants to make suggestions for features etc let me know

>> No.416272

>>416208

>> No.417067

any more news on how OP is going with ad revenue?

>> No.417086

>>415667
That's that stupid cash swiping game

>> No.417092

>>415669
Stupid fucking game. Played it for 10 mins, fun... then.. Uninstalled.

>> No.417416

>>417067

op is millions in debt lel

>> No.417439

>>415312
provide reasoning

>> No.417444

If any of the app writers are still watching the thread, could you post a brief summary of the proccess of getting your apps to the android marketplace?

I assume google wallet is needed, and someone mentioned a fee. Is that it?

>> No.417450

http://www.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/1ueork/how_much_does_the_average_private_developer_make/
http://app-promo.com/wake-up-call-infographic/

I've seen threads here claiming they make $400-500 a week, how realistic is that? Really interested in putting in the work to get good at this, just not sure if its worth it. thoughts?

>> No.417452

I know Visual Basic (lel) which I was told to learn before I could move onto the big things, I can make a good programme with VB too, would I be able to make an app with it though?

>> No.417467

>>417450
pee pee desu

>> No.417470

>>417450
Interesting reads. So all in all, the OP has given us a link to his app. He is promoting it? This is illegal?

Why should I download OPs app and help him make money?

>> No.418036

>>417470
Thinly veiled attempt to promote his app. Downloaded it. Deleted it.

>> No.418182

>>417452
no just download eclipse w/ the android dev stuff and get going

>> No.418210

>>417450
>I've seen threads here claiming they make $400-500 a week, how realistic is that? Really interested in putting in the work to get good at this, just not sure if its worth it. thoughts?

I make that. That's after three years - but not three years dedicated just to this. I have been pursuing my CS degree and have consulted during this time as well.

>> No.418222 [DELETED] 

>>418210
What do you blog about? I remember starting a blog years and years ago, but I've long since deleted the associated Google account.

>> No.418319

>>418182
ah ok thanks

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>>417439

maybe because Java is used for Android development dumbdumb. If you want to make mobile apps, learn Java (Android) or objective C (iOS). however, I believe Swift is going to be the new language for iOS. I'm a Java guy so I can't really say much about that transition

>> No.418367

wait, you need a website to upload your app on the android store? I dont have a website, I just want to see how this app goes...

>> No.418400

>>418367
Where does it say that?

>> No.418401

>>418367

And what app do you have?

>> No.418472

>>412883
i'm telling my dad!

>> No.418630

>>418472

naughty boy he is. taking someones hard valued work and doing something like that. I bet he came from /b/

>> No.418668

>>418367

Yeah, the website is required, but you can just make a quick tumblr or a blogger and set it as your website

>> No.418711

>>418668

never thought of that. too simple

>> No.418712

>>418711
So has anyone used OPs app yet? OP are you making money with this shite?

>> No.418723

>>418712

he prolly makes few cents with it.

>> No.418726

>>418723
has anyone else got apps they want to share with /biz/rael

>> No.419519

>>418726
no thanks, don't want my app to be banned for advertising

>> No.419531

>>419519
I still don't understand why the rules on advertising your shit on other sites are so strict.

>> No.419665

>>419519

Can you provide info on this?

>> No.419731

I want to make apps under a fictitious developer name (Sole Proprietor). Do I need to use the same name for the AdMob account? I was just going to use my full name + SS for AdMob. Same for AdSense, AdWords, and anything else I can use. But if a name is going to be public (like the developer's name), then a fictitious name it is (while still keeping it legal)

>> No.419759

How does tax work with this sort of thing?

>> No.420812

and the thread is dead

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http://pastebin.com/yzRtByur

Here some information about the group

>>403872

>> No.421096

How much money do you actually get from making apps and put adds on it?

>> No.421112

>>417450
>linking to plebbit
Fag.

>> No.421154

>>421112

boo hoo

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421358

>mfw
>According to the documents King Digital Entertainment filed recently, Candy Crush Saga generates not $100,000, not $200,000, not $300,000… but a brain exploding $3.5 million EVERY DAY.

>> No.421694

>>413038
10/10 list, ty

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>>415445
.. and i make more fixing arcade games for CEC...


thank goodness i didn't pursue mobile development....

real apps give out tickets you advulture

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cec.skateuniverse&hl=en

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>>421358
>mfw

>> No.421729

>>421714
they won the lottery

you win more often as an app developer, sometimes you only win a few $100, sometimes you win $10000s before it grinds to a halt, a few win millions, there is some skill involved of course, people with less scruples have an advantage, but concerning the proportion that is due to chance the principle is the same

>> No.421768

>>415672
> illegal

There's that word. Are you really sure you know what it means?

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421771

What kind of shit apps do you upload to make easy money? What's the best strategy?

One strategy I could think of is making 9001 shitty apps that don't require a lot of programming (max 5~10 hours) and basically flooding the Play Store.

Another strategy might be making 3 or 4 nice apps that actually do something useful and spending about 25 hours on each app.

Help me out here.

>> No.421804

>>421771

use both strategies and make separate accounts

>> No.421874

>>421804

>separate accounts

So two developer accounts and two AdMob accounts? It's Google, wouldn't be surprised if they threw a fit about multiple accounts under one AdMob account.

>> No.421936

>>421771
>One strategy I could think of is making 9001 shitty apps that don't require a lot of programming (max 5~10 hours) and basically flooding the Play Store.

IIRC, at one time one person was responsible for almost half of the apps in the blackberry store. :D

>> No.422227

OPs app - HTML, a little JS and CSS. Phonegap. Cordova. Call it whatever.

Would of taken all of 10 minutes to make.

>> No.422242

>>422227
>would of
And it would have taken you less than a second to not make that mistake.

>> No.422253

>>414728
>>414728
how good is phonegap? it just creates a webapp using html and JS into a mobile app right?

is Java required at all?

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>>421771

Is this too shit? It was definitely way to easy to make.

>> No.422471

>>422418
What the fuck is that? You can't be serious, mate. No one is going to download that crap.

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>>422471
It's quantity over quality m8. 30 Minutes per app max.

>No one is going to download that crap.
Is it the pukegreen background or the fact that any 5 year old with a brain can figure out the percentage of two numbers so nobody needs this app?
Because I can fix the shit background...

>> No.422485

>>422478
Haha

>> No.422747

>>422478
>or the fact that any 5 year old with a brain can figure out the percentage of two numbers so nobody needs this app?
everyone has a calculator m8

>> No.422782

>>422747
I know but there are enough idiots on this planet that don't know how to use it.

But I guess apps with a single shitty functionality aren't good enough to make some ad money.

>> No.422815

>>415676
>Scratch
Are you 8?

>> No.423355

>>422418

And you have the right idea. You create something small. Stick some advertising in it. And leave it there. Repeat the process.

Surely someone will download it.

I seen that OPs app now has had between 50 and 100 downloads.

>> No.423434

I made a couple of game apps. Impossible to get them ranked in Google Play. Pretty much a waste of time except for experience and portfolio.

http://readwrite.com/2014/07/22/app-developers-middle-class-opportunities
"According to the survey: “The revenue distribution is so heavily skewed towards the top that just 1.6% of developers make multiples of the other 98.4% combined.”"

>> No.423490

>>423434
>every avenue in life is closed off

so do we just kill ourselves or what

>> No.423611

>>423490
No, but I really need to think about other muses than making apps. It feels fucked up to work your ass off for months and then see €0.05 daily income. Fuck that shit.

>> No.423616

>>423611
We need to see the next big wave coming in the distance and ride that bitch to the top.

>> No.423619

>>423616
>We need to see the next big wave coming in the distance and ride that bitch to the top.
Any ideas? It pretty much depends on what Google editors put in the top lists for Google Play. Pick one of those apps, clone it, stuff it with keywords and hope for the best?

>> No.423622

>>423619
That's pretty much my gameplan right now.

Although, if you clone it, maybe you could put just one tiny improvement. Could make all the difference.

>> No.423631

>>423622
>Although, if you clone it, maybe you could put just one tiny improvement. Could make all the difference.
Sure, make it dont 'tap the pink tiles' instead of 'dont tap the white tiles'

>> No.423733

>>421696
>.. and i make more fixing arcade games for CEC...

I really can give a shit about comments like this any more. I do not do this full time. I am going to school and also doing consulting gigs. I also work out, go to dinner with friends and such. I also spend some time on apps. It makes me $400-$500 a week currently. That will be pushed up to $600 a week with more effort, then $700 a week, then more. It will probably take a few years (since I am not doing this 24/7/365) but eventually I will be making $2000 a week.

I'm sure at every point on my way to $2000 a week people will be telling me I am making nothing. I really don't give a shit. I make an easy $400-$500 a week now and am happy with it. When I was making $300 a week on apps people told me I wasn't making anything, when I made $200 a week people said the same, when I made $100 a week people said the same.

I can bank the CEC money plus the app money. That's the beauty of it, I make my consulting fees plus my own personal app money.

>> No.423747

>>423733
Meh, idk why those people even come to /biz/, all they do is shout down every idea and never offer help. Fuck 'em. Hopefully I can get to your level and beyond. I'll race ya.

>> No.424227

op has made the app different to what is listed. looks better now op.

>> No.424457

>>415687
I think apples more lenient but not very sure. I definitely know google will either just block ad revenue from coming in and/ or take your money

>> No.425467

>>424457

They will def do both. Been there.