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[Anonymous No.30371537]

how do people even live on minimum wage

[Anonymous No.30371563]

>>30371537

are you an adult? only college students and teenagers should be making minimum wage

[Anonymous No.30371589]

[Anonymous No.30371606]

>>30371537
how have no idea how people live in third world countries

[Anonymous No.30371647]

>>30371537
Shitty studio apartment outside of major cities, or less shitty apartment with roommates
Cheap groceries, no restaurants or delivery

[Anonymous No.30371658]

>>30371537
They did it to themselves and deserve no pity. How can anyone possibly be a cashier for 20 fucking years?

[Anonymous No.30371705]

>>30371537
ask mumsie for money

[Anonymous No.30371786]

>>30371658
Some people literally aren't smart enough for college or to get a higher paying job. You really think they deserve to suffer because they weren't born with the abilities other people have?

[Anonymous No.30371815]

>>30371537
I live on that amount, even less sometimes, but I'm incredibly stingy with my cash and don't give a fuck about appearances. What puzzles me is the amount of people with brand new cars, iphones all of that shit. There's no way they can afford it in my country, not even with higher than minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.30371840]

>>30371786
They aren't "smart enough" to even feel the suffering.

[Anonymous No.30371863]

can blockchain be hacked if so, what are the odds? maybe it already has been hacked

[Anonymous No.30371871]

>>30371537
Not everyone is a filthy amerimutt that needs to consume 20,000 calories and 1 terabyte of blacked porn a day

[Anonymous No.30371947]

>>30371537
I used to. Just ate less. Only saved for good laptop, headphones, screen. Barely had anything in apartment, horded all the money I could like a goblin. All I did was browse the internet and exercise and now I do the same thing, with a better computer and better exercise equipment and now I can actually order food if I'm too lazy to cook.

[Anonymous No.30372009]

>>30371537
It's easy when you don't save any of it. Let's say min wage is 20,000 a year net. Rent and utilities is 1k x 12 = 12k. Food is 300x12 =3.6k

So it only costs 15.6k to live on average in North America. Easily doable on full time minimum wage. It's crazy how people think they need these massive salaries, the problem is they want all this stuff like electronics, expensive clothes and new cars. And kids of course but you can probably raise a kid or two on two minimum wage salaries, especially because of child benefits

[Anonymous No.30372013]

Supportive families, which are rare in burgerstan

[Anonymous No.30372107]

>>30371815
It's called owing money, lots of it.

[Anonymous No.30372114]

>>30371537

They literally share a 1br apartment with 10-15 other wagies, they are usually Hispanic illegal immigrants. I’ve seen this firsthand, it’s disgusting. This 1br was renting for 1500 a month and had about a dozen people living there

[Anonymous No.30372157]

>>30371537

They go all in ZNN and look back at the serfs from their past lives with contempt in a couple of years

[Anonymous No.30372266]

>>30371563
have you ever left your mommy's basement?
In the real world there are EMT drivers working for minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.30372358]

>>30372009
Spotted the boomer in the thread. The fact that you are poor despite being a worker while back in the day you could afford a house, a car and sustain a family by yourself while you can't do any of that now is where it's evident the worth of money has decreased while wages have not gone up much. You can cry all you want that you didn't have internet or phones back then, but it's a minimum spending and you don't change your computers every day. All economic statistics point towards decay of economic and society ever since the 70s when we got off the gold pattern, so don't try to sell a story that we are all poor now just because we spend in modern tech the equivalent of what a boomer would spend giving tips to his shoeshine boy.

[Anonymous No.30372394]

>>30371947
Kek, same.

>>30372107
Dude, the average wagie in my country earns ~1400€ / month net. It's either they all inherited >50k or they're in debt for the next ten years.

[Anonymous No.30372427]

>>30372266

min wage in my state is $8.60, emts do not make eight fucking dollars an hour. you also only need six months of training, which saturates that market

[Anonymous No.30372439]

>>30371840
you’re so edgy man it’s actually really cool

[Anonymous No.30372505]

>>30372009
You re calculations are wrong. Stop your bullshit. You didn t factor in any emergency funds for medical or other kinds. Minimum wage (8$h) is ok for kids that lives at their parents. In that case yes it s enough to actualy even put money aside for investment in first appartement or a car. Otherwise it s slavery.

[Anonymous No.30372517]

>>30372266
ya, and only college students and teenagers should be EMTS. low skill cap profession can get a certificate for it in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.30372580]

>>30372358
The thing about making minimum wage and supporting a family is a meme. Nobody was working at McDonald's and had a huge house and two cars and kids

[Anonymous No.30372656]

>>30372505
I didn't imply it was ideal, just that it was possible when you cut out luxuries. You can also live much cheaper, those were high end estimates. You can rent for $200 if you have roommates

[Anonymous No.30372662]

>>30371537
What constitutes minimum wage? I take home about $2900/month after taxes which is really low in my country, $1000 of that goes to rent, around $175 on food, $300 on other stuff. Still leaves me with $1400 to invest every month

[Anonymous No.30372723]

>>30371563
then make minimum wage only apply to adults, and raise it to a living wage.

[Anonymous No.30372724]

>>30371537
2 jobs, welfare, and low-income properties/ghettos. It is as bad as it sounds.

[Anonymous No.30372737]

>>30372266
there's nothing quite as depressing as seeing old people work entry level food service/retail.

[Anonymous No.30372848]

>>30371537
They don't that's why it needs to be raised. You mutts are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.30372855]

minimum wage is to protect stupid people from choosing to work for too little money. it’s also to protect iq 100 wagies from having their salaries undercut by the actions of the stupids. if you hate stupid people and everyone with an iq below 120 that much, just say so.

[Anonymous No.30372872]

>live in midwestern shithole
>mcdicks starts at $11/hour
>target $15/hour
>belle tire I drive past everyday start at $14/hour

I legitimately don't know why the fuck people are getting paid $8/hour. I wouldn't even go to work at that point, just collect food stamps and free health insurance and find something better to do with your time. Anything, really.

[Anonymous No.30373059]

>>30372872
>just collect food stamps and free health insurance and find something better to do with your time. Anything, really.
Most people work so they have a roof over their head, anon. Granted, I actually do kind of agree that their quality of life would probably be better if they just fucked off innawoods and built mud hut shelters for themselves at that point.

[Anonymous No.30373316]

>>30371563
i work as an engineer and make minimum wage
I fucking hate europe, and unions.

[Anonymous No.30373349]

>>30372656
Luxuries like what? Going for a drink with friends? Buying clothes?
Life is not that simple.I have a good paying job now but a few years back i had a teeth problem and i had to spend 2k just for a mouth guard. Also glasses at one point witch were 600$. If you can t put aside money for unforseen events then you are just setting youself up for homelessness.Also mental breakdown from the stress.
Lets factor another thing in a 15$ minimum wage,crime.
A decent paying job would drastically lower crime. People would be less desperate.
Wanting people to be able to afford a better life is not a weakness. People on top want to normalize wageslaving. It s stupid. 8$h for the past like 25 years in the usa... without adjusting for inflation. Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.30373439]

>>30373316
What min wage there?

[Anonymous No.30374116]

>>30371537
A lot receive entitlement payments from various government agencies. Your tax dollars help the various corporations that employ these people to continue to pay them these wages without fear that their living conditions will become so bad that civil unrest occurs. And there will always come along another fool who is willing to work for less and to live a more abject existence.

[Anonymous No.30374136]

>>30371537
I’m happy with just a room and weed

[Anonymous No.30374199]

>>30371537
>he thinks minimum wage means least amount to live, not least they can get away with paying people

[Anonymous No.30374306]

>>30374136
>this

[Anonymous No.30374359]

>>30373316
you're not a real engineer then dipshit

also you might be a pajeet

[Anonymous No.30374417]

>>30374116
American drug policy and insatiable demand for hedonistic pleasures empowers Mexican and Central American drug cartels, leading to the flight of millions of emigrants from these countries to the United States, where they will subject themselves to all the indignities that would perturb the average American worker - things are bad for them and their children, but at least they don't fear for their lives on a daily basis. Immigration suppresses wages, and the destabilizing effects of American foreign policy encourage immigration. To cast blame on individuals caught up in this milieu is to miss the forest for the trees. Politicians and the heads of major international corporations should be made to be involved in Minecraft self-defense situations whenever possible.

[Anonymous No.30374440]

>>30372737
There is, I worked in a factory one summer and it was the most depressing shit seeing these old people break their backs for 9 hours. I lasted like 2 weeks before i landed a co-op job.

[Anonymous No.30374488]

>>30372517
They're literally the difference between life and death.
The ambulance ride itself costs thousands of dollars.

But you're right. I learned not to work. Working hard never got me anywhere. You know what did get me somewhere? Gambling on magic internet money. When the wagies figure out how to milk this scam, we won't have anybody to scrub our toilets or serve or tendies. You might call 9-11 and nobody answers the phone, because hard work was the real scam all along.

[Anonymous No.30374531]

>1 post by this ID
When will you idiots learn that this is bot spam designed to make 4chan uninteresting to new and established anons?
These bot posts are all three same
>puzzled green pepe
>stupid question
>1 post by this ID and no replies
Stop replying to this shit

[Anonymous No.30375026]

>>30371537

> pretty comfy
> it's like you have already make it but your are playing vidya games and shitposting all day

[Anonymous No.30375234]

Flatshare. Don't eat out ever. Spend almost zero on clothes. Basically, do nothing but maybe go clubbing once in a while. Clubs are all closed, so don't even do that.

It's kind of like a low-security prison. I did this for at least 5 years, with some unemployment thrown in. It's better than living in Haiti I guess, but still uncomfy.

[Anonymous No.30375484]

>>30372009
>So it only costs 15.6k to live on average in North America.

[Anonymous No.30376125]

>>30372266
https://www.banmilleronbusiness.com/cbs-radio-reports/senior-fast-food/

>And it’s a pretty sweet deal for the seniors as well. Most say they are bored after retirement and looking for something to do; and in many cases they aren’t in it for the money.

fucking clown world

[Anonymous No.30376323]

>>30372872
11 and 15 dollars an hour might as well be minimum wage. anything under 25 is poverty