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Talk about Hedera Hashgraph here.

Realistic EOY prediction: $50

Points.
1. Fastest TPS (not just wallet to wallet but 10000+ tps in non wallet transactions). Bitcoin is 10 tps just lol.
2. Fixed fee of $0.00001 USD. Eth maxis on suicide watch.
3. Has big corps like Google, Dentons, IBM, Boeing, EFTPOS Australia on their governing council. They serve term limits and are eventually replaced.
4. Recently partnered with the biggest bank in South Africa who will be running a node.
5. EFTPOS Australia will be running a node this year and they hope to install a micropayment solution for ALL Australians who will eventually hold a Hedera wallet.
6. 50 billion supply to be released over the next 15 YEARS. Xrp has 40 billion in circulation right now just lol.
7. Leemon Baird the ceo talked about how the market cap has to be well into the trillions so no one individual or Corp can own 2/3 of the network and control it.

A lot of you talk about eth killers etc but this is the TRUE blockchain killer.

Patented Hashgraph technology that nothing compares to.

Enjoy your millions if you invest in this coin.

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>> No.29824132
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IS IT ON BINANCE

>> No.29824148

>>29824132
Binance US

>> No.29824178

>>29824010
uhh this is a ADA board

>> No.29824235

I have like 8k of this. How much is a make it stack? Also I think this is a longterm hold, 5 years min

>> No.29824290

Ya, I'm eyeing this one too. I'm not sure now is a good entry though?

>> No.29824309

>>29824010
They need to come up with something for us to do over there. I have a bag, but the days of buying something you park in a wallet for years are over. I need staking, yield earning, and something to buy trade or otherwise play with.
Nobody is going to pump this up to top 10 just to have.

That being said, I'm going to double my stack as an insurance policy against the literal fucking bilderbergs that run this thing taking over all of crypto.

>> No.29824413

>>29824235
30k

500k is billionaire stack in 10 years

>> No.29824505

>>29824309
It’s coming this year.

By that time the price will be at least $20 though

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29824561

Yeah this has the right feel to it now

Just brought 10k

Note i called Doge, Xrp and BNB right before moon this year.

>> No.29824692

>>29824561
$50 EOY

enjoy your early retirement

>> No.29824873

>>29824290
It’s extremely cheap imo

>> No.29824930

>>29824010
The centralised decentralisation nice work. Why not just hand your money over to the Jews now

>> No.29825020

>>29824930
Stay poor

>> No.29825185

>>29824930
If the hebrews are gonna elbow bump their way into crypto, my take is, I might as well profit off their intrusion.

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>>29824010
This is a stinky poo PnD, post hand to prove otherwise

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>>29825303

>> No.29825502

>>29824010
I really wanna buy this, but its only on chink exchanges.

>> No.29825518

>>29824873
look up what merketcap is

>> No.29825522

I know this coin will eventually be big, but when? $20 EOY seems ambitious when it has nothing going for it in the eyes of most people right now

>> No.29825527

https://youtu.be/-GBoMP1KCRc

Companies saving 99.8% on fees from switching eth to hedera just fucking lol

>> No.29825547

this platform is pearl
>pajeets try to shill rubbish on /biz/
>they can’t learn how pos and pow algo works on enecuum
only clever guys will get it and have profit

>> No.29825561

>>29825502
Send me your funds and I'll hold for you darling

>> No.29825574

>>29825522
You joking? Every Australian is going to have their own hedera wallet this year lol.

$50 is low ball estimate by EOY

>> No.29825579

Also 50B coin circulation, even at eth's market cap that's only $5 per coin

>> No.29825677

>>29825579
Youre joking right?

Comparing eth to this coin that crushes it in all aspects and that all blockchain projects are migrating to?

It will have a market cap that you can’t even fathom

>> No.29825704

>>29825574
See market cap>>29825579 how is this possible? That would put it at BTC's market cap. I don't doubt eventually it will become a top 3 coin but it seems like a multiyear hold

>> No.29825730

>>29825574
350+ billion dollar market cap by end of year. Sounds legit.

>> No.29825738

>>29825677
Disregard my other comment, thanks for answering.

>> No.29825749

>>29825704
It will be the only crypto standing in 5 years.

It will work with governments and due to its speed and security and feeless operation no other coin will be necessary.

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> HBARs, son.

>> No.29825814

>>29824010
>$50 EOY
>50b supply
OP: lmao marketcap wtf is that

>> No.29825918

>>29824692
$50 would be, assuming they even retained the current supply, what, a 400 billion dollar mcap? Might be a little optimistic....

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Read the economics whitepaper and I don't understand one thing.
Why is Hedera so protective about people running their own nodes? Hedera Treasury is in control of the most coins, so there is almost no way to attack a proof-of-stake model.

>> No.29825995

>>29825814
2.5 trillion lmfao

>> No.29826001

lmao
what are you waiting for?
still don’t know about fucking amazing Jul??
>how dare are you? how can you use staking on ERC?
Check modern yield farming on Binance Smart Chain

>> No.29826056

>>29826001
Okay pajeet.

>> No.29826106

>>29825918
try 4 trillion.

>> No.29826145

>>29824010
>Realistic EOY prediction: $50
c'mon man

>> No.29826312

>>29825502
You can trade it on Bittrex and Exodus.

>> No.29826493

>>29824235
>>29824413
>>29824505
>>29824561
>>29824692
the way you talk is so inorganic. that's why nobody is biting buddy. you are literally just talking to yourself on different vpns. not sure what is the point of this nobody has enough money on biz to actually pump your bags.

I would suggest you put your effort into finding a lower cap coin. hbar cant moon because the team will dump on you before you dump on biz. atb pajeet

>> No.29826548

>>29826493
Complete bullshit.

So many people on biz are invested in this coin

>> No.29826711

>>29826493
Also team can’t dump without full council permission and it’s a process that can take years.

The devs coins are just their reward for developing the network and it’s non inflationary.

You invest in eth which has unlimited supply or in xrp which has 40 fucking billion ALREADY in circulation.

HBARs coins will be released over 15 years but you think it’s just a pump and dump? Checks out dumb ass.

>> No.29826729

can we get a high IQ (not pajeet or chink) anon in this thread please

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>>29826548
I'm invested but that usually means it will tank if you look at my past choices XD

>> No.29826979

>>29826729
Just read the white paper and look up it’s use cases.

It’s the elites coin of choice

>> No.29827174

I'm thinking of buying in the region of 8 cents, which we might visit soon if BTC tanks a little. What's a realistic EOY price on this?

>> No.29827214

>>29827174
$3

>> No.29827220

>>29827174
$50. Not joking

Screenshot this right now

>> No.29827309

Buying Hashgraph is like taking the Corpo start in cyberpunk 2077

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>>29827220
>your mother dies in her sleep 12/31/2021 11:59:59pm if you are lying to me asshole

>> No.29827416

>>29827220
it's less than a 5x you stupid nigger

>> No.29827708

>>29826751
kill yourself

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This coin is a long play, folks. It's for businesses and mass adoption which doesn't happen overnight. They are releasing the supply over 15 years which is what I'm expecting it to take for a "make it" result in investment maturity.

Set aside what you can, buy a bag and forget about it.

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feeling bullish about this and LTO
normally i choose based on the logo and HBAR gets me so fucking hard

>> No.29827799

SEX SEX SEX

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>>29827777
the quads of truth

>> No.29827969

>>29827708
Do not for even a second believe that I haven't though long and hard about doing that, over and over and over and over for years now.

>> No.29828023

>>29827777
brainlet

>> No.29828090

>>29827793
This is one of my biggest fetishes RIP.

And girls sitting with their bare asses on cakes.

Search up videos of it you won't be disappointed.

>> No.29828101

>>29826548
Yeah but the early posts sound like one guy talking to himself.

>> No.29828129

>>29827777
Nah. It's already going mainstream this year. The price will be much higher in 15 years you're right but it will be so much higher by EOY.

>> No.29828237

>>29828101
They don't sound like the same person at all? You sound schizo asf.

>> No.29828572

>>29827416
He's not wrong IMO. Anyone who thinks $50 is an underestimate needs to research the project more. Everyday we're hearing about big projects migrating from eth to Hedera.

I have bags in many coins but I'm most bullish on HBAR. Life changing gains to be made.

>> No.29828602

lol, what are you talking about, trash boy
>these niggers took all your money
don’t be so dumped and believe in every scam on forums
eat a cake and go to JustLiquidity and their julswap
any token can give you benefits from farming

>> No.29829158

>>29824010
Why is she sticking her tongue out? What is she trying to imply?

>> No.29829714

>>29829158
She wants Leemons cock

>> No.29829818

Suicide stack on this? Selling half my ADA and don't know where to put it

>> No.29830171

>>29829714
This makes sense

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Should I add $10k to my stack or use the $10k elsewhere to make a bit more money then throw it back in HBAR? Not sure what the best play is for timing. I'd plan to hold it for a long time.

>> No.29830851

>>29830693
Go 5k in and 5k in any other shit coin

Basically every coin is shit compared to Hedera

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>>29830851
I actually just pulled $10k out of Algo and put it in NU, not sure why, my gut told me to.

>> No.29831050

>>29829818
30k

500k is billionaire status in 2030

>> No.29831201

I don’t like the excessive shilling of OP but I do think this coin has a future.

>> No.29831229

>>29831201
Not shilling if anything I’m understating

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>>29824010
16 nodes run by giant cooperation's
>sorry anon we had to close your address because we found racist tweets from 5 years ago

no thanks

>> No.29831423

>>29831323
Why did you make racist tweets, anon? : /

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See you guys in 5 years when I’m doing raw anal with hookers like this

>> No.29831597

>>29824010
Get dumped on by Boomer VCs who bought this dead garbage 2 years ago.

>> No.29831650

>>29831323
kek money is money to corps. they could already blacklist you from buying or owning ANYTHING because you provide your info when you make a purchase. you're already in that boiling water anon.

>> No.29831671

>>29831423
Why do you think, anon?

>> No.29831708

Based OP. Thanks for continuing to educate biz on HBAR.

>>29825967
https://youtu.be/QTNNYeSks-s

They will ultimately get to a point where anonymous nodes are possible. The reason why they are protective (from what I've researched about them), and is they don't want the network to potentially go the way of EOS, or even recently Fantom, or BTC, where validators/miners are up to fuckery. Whether it's collusion, validators going down, or one day a validator decides to go validate another network.

Cosmos tried to address this by saying their validators are publically known. This way, there is a sense of accountability. Hashgraph took it a step further and got massive companies to validate it. These companies are legally required (they signed agreements), to validate the network for up to two 3 year terms. And they can't all just host it in a cloud provider. Only Google right now hosts their node in GCP.

Once it is secure and enough supply is released, they'll extend it to mirror nodes, and finally full anonymous nodes, where anyone can spin one up.

Obviously I'm biased since I hold HBAR, but if this Texas startup managed to get all these massive companies to legally sign on board, clearly they've looked under the hood and their tech is legit.

>> No.29831740

Where do you guys buy Hedera?

>> No.29831776

>>29826979
Nigger Mike Maloney bought this in the early investor rounds for .1 cents per token

>> No.29831799

>>29831740
Jerusalem

>> No.29831804

>>29831595
lmfao same here anon. wgmi

>> No.29831826

>>29831323
Can't the teams of other tokens and such also ban you when they decide to?
From latest Hedera Community Town Hall (timestamped at 17:50)
https://youtu.be/eq8NB09mQYs?t=1070

>> No.29832053

>>29831776
>Mike Maloney
that boomer faggot will be dead long before the coin reaches any value, hahahhaha

>> No.29832173

>>29831826
When did they speak about banning anyone on that timestamp? If you go back on that vid they briefly talk about ponzi scheme shitcoin tokens and they said they cant do shit. They just provide the network. Why’d they say this but then be able to ban anyone?

>> No.29832722

>>29831708
Motherfucker you are OP using several different vpns LMAO. Your reddit spacing gives it away.

>> No.29833205

>>29832722
take your meds schizo.

I'm a different person.

Do you like my reddit spacing now?

buy HBAR

>> No.29833571

>>29831776
and?

>> No.29833708

schizo hbar frens when can we stake this?

>> No.29834520

>>29833708
Soon, it's on their website, but there's also a 25k stake mininum

>> No.29834612

>>29824010
>fixed fee
Sounds retarded when the dollar is going to shit

>> No.29834661

>>29834612
sounds perfect for exactly that reason, abandon dollar embrace hbar

>> No.29834803

Ħello Future.

>> No.29835723

OP, u r scaring the hoes with this ridicolous copy pasta convos in all ofthe last weeks Hbar threads. I was rdy to throw money, but know im not sure... change your shilling strat plz is what Im saying

>> No.29835827

I want to buy but don’t know how to buy on exchange and isn’t leaving stuff on the exchange risky I only use crypto.com to hold my tokens

>> No.29836218

>>29835723
Due diligence by OP scares you?

>> No.29836366

I can't buy any more right now how long do I have to accumulate? I want atleast 50k

>> No.29836471

>>29831708
Thanks anon, I will research HBAR more.
>>29831776
Mike is a comfy shiny rocks boomer, but not necessarily an cryptocurrency expert.

>> No.29837053

>>29836218
No, but if he's so sure, why there's 20 ids saying same shit in every thread. I can see a couple ppl doing it to shill their cojn of choice, nothing wrong with it. But this Hbar threads are a one man theatre, and this man is saying that its a 100% coin.. then why would he do the shit above? Also i feel tingly about coins logo, US military intelligence connected founder, "hedera" meaning ivy, and Hedera being 1 of the first Zionist cities on the Holy land. For all I know those old money ppl actually like to duck around with the symbolics

>> No.29837789

>>29831826
>How do you you we can trust you?
>"Err....just trust us bro"

JEW
COIN

>> No.29837819

>>29835723
>change your shilling strat plz is what Im saying
Do you think any of the ones saying they have 40-100k will post their wallet addresses to verify they actually hold any? They're afraid to post wallets to very on explorer. They only post edited images. They're also afraid people will see on explorer there's only ~300 unique wallets in 24 hour period that do anything. You need a registered wallet to buy or sell.

>> No.29837967

>>29837053
I'm not a shill, but the things that make you feel tingly are the same reasons I buy this shit. If big business is really going to switch to crypto - and they'll have to if they want to move forward - then this coin is the one most likely to make the boomer money bags feel most comfortable. And that will just help to spread it's use. I'm open to diff opinions but they need to contradict the above to sway me.

>> No.29837984

>>29824010
How does one acquire blonde white cuties like pic related?

>> No.29838073

>>29831201
Same

>> No.29838219

>>29837984
Chloroform

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so what is realistic price EOY considering actual market cap size?

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We're making it boys n non boys

>> No.29838391

>>29838248
.80 to 1.50 realistically.

>> No.29838432

lol

>check how they are trying to shill that trash project on /biz/

looks like this thread is already dumped with scammers
hope I am clever to forget about it and don’t come to hell

>my wallet has been connected to Bot Ocean platform and I wait for full open to use their bots for trading and analysis

but you can follow them and buy this trash

>> No.29838754

Reddit

Spacing

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>>29825303
Look at all these scammers running nodes! London, Tokyo, Helsinki, Toronto.... And created by a genius. Once this thing takes off, don’t say we didn’t warn you.

https://hash-hash.info/hedera-council-explorer

>> No.29839081

>>29834520
Where did you hear the minimum?

>> No.29839118

>>29832722
>only 1 person on /biz/ can type paragraphs and spaces!
skitzo. also pull screenshots of 4chan from 2008 and they tore with "reddit spacing". only retards think paragraphs originate from reddit because of hitting enter twice.

>> No.29839132

>>29837819
No you don’t. You can keep them on Binance. I only recently pulled mine off to add to my ledger.

>> No.29839245

>>29826711
>team can’t dump without full council permission and it’s a process that can take years
That's what they said but there's nothing to prevent it from being bs. Even with dozens of corporations involved they could probably finalise it in a month.

>> No.29839605

stop creating threads about this for another month or 2 ffs

>> No.29839762

Hashgraph is superior to blockchain on privacy security, efficiency, and speed. In the timeline blockchain has a big adoption advantage, the possibilities of Hashgraph are only now being explored and realized by global banking, corporations, defence/national security. If Hedera pans, now is the early.

>> No.29840514

>>29839081
It's on their website docs, they have an image of staking examples that said 25k minimum.

>> No.29840663

>>29840514
I read the token economics paper and didn’t see anything about a minimum. I’m only 20k but I’ll be over 25k after Bloody Sunday

>> No.29840754

>>29825579
Correct, this hopium is annoying, BUT 5 dollars is still what a 50x ish?

>> No.29840775

>>29825375
Gib sauce

>> No.29841128

>>29825375
how many hbars do I need to have sex with a woman like that?

>> No.29841432

They got a beautiful office they lease and the entire team can be researched. This is a sure bet! Unlike all the other shit I’ve researched that operate out of an apartment, townhouse, or P.O. Box and anonymous team

>> No.29841544

>>29841128
not many. that's just another $5 whore enhanced with $100 in makeup and a $2k camera.

>> No.29841584

>>29837967
This. Say what you will about these censorious lefty technology companies, but they definitely make sophisticated technology on a global scale. If there are partnerships with the likes of google and ibm, I think that is a good sign for the technology and future of the coin/network. Not just in terms of the tech itself, but to get adoption and proliferation into the norman sphere. Ant pajeet can go fork some shit, make a coin with spaghetti code and shill it, at least this particular coin has some technical experts involved in some way. I like what I've read so far about it, I'm a cautious hbar stacklet, but I think the prospects are good.

>> No.29841686

>>29841584
yeah but do we profit off of holding hbars? ibm, google, from my understanding they just use the tech, but will we profit off of coins? it's not us after all owning hashgraph, so lemon bard profits off of ibm and google, but do we?
thanksfor clarifying this in advance

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>>29824132
yes - not only US

>> No.29841966

>>29841686
You will profit from the inevitable gigapump and you will be able to stake when they move to the permissionless node stage. Start accumulating now for when that happens.

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Early

>> No.29842092

>>29839132
Post binance deposit address then faggot. You can't, because you don't own shit.

>> No.29842195

Can these assholes fix their abysmal wallet system? why the fuck would they force you to go ask some random hedera holder a favor just to create your own wallet? how fucking dumb is this

>> No.29842415

>>29841686
I'm treating this like a buy and hold. I think the price of each coin will go higher if/when the adoption of the technology becomes more broad. I think those partnerships give it some perceived validity or legitimacy which would help in broader adoption imo. If I needed to source some DLT for a mission critical or vital service for my business, I'd jump on this before something else with less backing or technical vetting. That doesn't mean it will be successful, just speculating on this because of those reasons. This doesn't seem like a high volatility, +/- x100 per day coin to me, so I don't think this coin is right for that.

>> No.29842480

>>29842092
Lol bro why are you even here? Why the fuck would be posting about a coin I don’t own?

>> No.29842576

>>29842195
You can create an account through atom or exodus. Check out 3c

https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002155878-How-do-I-set-up-the-Ledger-Nano-S-X-for-use-with-HBAR-cryptocurrency-#breadcrumb

>> No.29842594

I bought at .1490 and I am now financially ruined

>> No.29842641

>>29824010
This picture makes me miss her. I’m ngmi

>> No.29842717

>>29842594
You are good desu. Long term hold, at a dollar you are still 7x

>> No.29842784

>>29842717
Should i buy more. Conoy have 6,700

>> No.29842837

>>29824010
So I understand that it supposedly takes 600,000 to run a serious tier node and that nodes are great for staking, but what happens to these staking nodes after 15 years when everything is released? I'm super fucking new to Crypto and HBAR is the first crypto i've ever bought. Is there anything else HBARs will be able to do so they aren't all in circulation?

>> No.29842860

>>29824010
Michael I will find you

>> No.29842906

I got about 480 NU I can change over. Kind of hoping it would go back up into the 90s at least before I move it however. Im down in like everything

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>>29824010

>> No.29842938

op is a faggot

>> No.29843015

>>29842784
I’m DCAing on dips under .12 my avg is .135 so not far off you. The last few Sunday’s have been brutal so could drop again. TPS will sky rocket in few months with Australia rolls out the debit cards. So prob a have a little bit before it takes off

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>>29842938

>> No.29843116

i got 6k tokens just to play and there is nothing going for this, I had to verify my identity with passport on mainnet and could not do so. I failed the identity verification for some reason.

Also, it is centralized and hence price is completely controlled by the creators.

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I only have 5k, I thought I wouldve been happy to sit and wait it out when I bought a 250 stack... these threads keep making me buy more.

That and the fact that this all makes so much fucking sense. I better not be getting fucked over with a ten year crab coin... I want the country house. And maybe a choppa

>> No.29843191

corps own most of the supply, why fucking bother retards

>> No.29843241

>>29837967
they don´t have to switch to crypto. Why do they have to switch to crypto?

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>>29843241

>> No.29843451

Hedera doesn´t have google and such as partners. It´s all lies lies and lies. Show me where google and boeing said they use hedera? show me

>> No.29843467

>>29843116
The control in the beginning is by design and Leeman is very upfront about it. Decentralization is the goal, but it can't start out that way because he wants to make sure no one can gain a monopoly. The dude wants HBAR to be worth so much in the future that it's impossible for any one (or group) to own even a third of all HBARs.

>> No.29843534

>>29830693
put into coti and some ada.
ADA is gonna rise 1st march and coti riding on the back of it. Coti has big things happening on 31st march.

>> No.29843713

>>29843451
https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/public-datasets/working-with-hedera-hashgraph-to-support-the-next-generation-of-distributed-ledger-technology

>> No.29843726

>>29843451

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/public-datasets/working-with-hedera-hashgraph-to-support-the-next-generation-of-distributed-ledger-technology

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-fis-global-join-hedera-180509120.html

>> No.29844065

>>29824010
casual anon hbar group in telegram
telegram/HBARanons

>> No.29844977

>>29843713
tl;dr
>Google Cloud will operate a Hedera network node... bolstering GCP's position as the cloud provider of choice for DLT networks and decentralized applications
Google is behind only Amazon and Microsoft as a cloud provider.

>> No.29845123

>>29824010
i told you that i bought your hbar tokens two days ago. i m very disappointed. iota is bound to perform much better.

>> No.29845320

>>29830693>>29831595

based! that a boi with a solid plan for the future. you re GMI.

>> No.29845549

>>29843534
I've only got 2k ADA so I could beef that stack up a bit but I wasn't sure how much further ADA could go up.

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Bow down blockchains

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>>29838344
Based OP. Laughing at those trying to FUD this project then go stock up on fucking pancake tokens.

>tfw reddit spacing cost anon his future

>> No.29845985

>>29842576
Thanks anon. So if I lose or break my ledger nano, I can use the ledger's 24 words on a new device and hedera wallet will be restored?

>> No.29846822

>>29845985
Correct, just need your seed phrase. The wallets are kind of mess but that’s bc we are so early. Leemon said they didn’t put much into the wallets bc an eco system will develop around hbars. So just buy and hodl for now. I plan on keeping for years.