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Welcome to /ig/. Here we discuss the possibility of inflation, Federal Reserve game theory, and investing tips during the next 3-12 months.

Today's reading:
>Why stock investors are starting to really worry about rising bond yields
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/25/why-stock-investors-are-starting-to-really-worry-about-rising-bond-yields.html
>Less Than 1 Basis Point Away From Convexity Disaster
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/less-1-point-away-convexity-disaster
>Companies Are Successfully Raising Prices, But the Fed’s Outlook on Inflation Is Unchanged
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/companies-are-successfully-raising-prices-but-the-feds-outlook-on-inflation-is-unchanged/2021/02/25/74f3ac56-7767-11eb-9489-8f7dacd51e75_story.html

Other key points:
>U.S. home prices rise 10.1% in December, fastest since 2014
>Foreclosures and evictions postponed until June*
>Student loans deferred until September
>1.9 trillion stimulus deal ETA mid-March
>supply lines disrupted, unable to meet demand

>> No.29715480
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>The monetary base, which is the raw material from which dollars are made, has jumped over 50% in the past 12 months. The actual stock of money, counting paper currency and balances in bank deposit accounts, has increased 26%. Usually the relationship is one-to-one, but much of the monetary base is sitting idle as reserves that commercial banks hold at their Federal Reserve Bank. The extra monetary base is dry tinder or a ticking time bomb, choose your own metaphor.


>The increased money supply has not yet triggered inflation, largely because the money’s owners have chosen not to spend. Consumers have used their stimulus checks and extra unemployment insurance largely to pay down debt and to build up their checking accounts. Similarly, many businesses took Paycheck Protection Program loans not because they needed the money immediately, but as a buffer in case things got worse. Outside of leisure and hospitality, things didn’t get much worse. With the loans being forgiven now, the cash in sitting in business checking accounts.

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Bond, James Savings Bond

>> No.29716300

As a response to an anon in previous thread .. contracts on gold and silver are not a hedge to inflation

When you buy a financial contract its an obligation of the counterparty to pay. What if they become insolvent due to the effects of hyper-inflation on their balance sheets? They can't pay everyone out

>> No.29716505

>>29716300

What about oil stocks? An explosion in demand over spring and summer combined with shuttered frackers and overall increased energy costs. Surely bullish no?

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Inflation won't happen below the top percentile and for goods luxury.

Turns out Trickle Down Economics + MMT was the one true economy.

Praise be to JPOW

>> No.29716647

I don't understand why the threat of inflation is making things dump. I thought equities were a hedge against inflation. If inflation threatens to come along, and stocks and bitcoin just dumps, how the fuck is that a protection against inflation?

>> No.29716715

>>29716505
My point is that in the case of hyper-inflation, any FINANCIAL asset cannot be considered safe. Whether we see it to that extent is yet to be seen.

I'm just not convinced that MMT is legit.

>> No.29716735

>>29716647
Inflation has been priced in since September and inflation seems under control for now.

>> No.29716798

Jerome will save us. Relax everybody.

>> No.29716875

>>29716647
>>29716735

I'm just going to copy and paste from earlier

Equities aren't a hedge against inflation, equities are - at the end of a day - strictly a FINANCIAL asset. In a financial crisis the price of all FINANCIAL assets are devalued as the CASH that they are backed by also devalue.

Think of it this way, if you owe someone $50K, and then hyper-inflation were to occur, the money you owe him would now be worthless. You don't see Venezuelans rushing to buy bonds or company equity, right?

A devaluing of debt to that degree would completely fuck over company balance sheets

I'm not sure if hyper-inflation is going to occur - its not clear if modern monetary theory is sustainable. But if it were to occur, tangible assets such as real estate or similar stores of wealth would inflate along with the dollar

>> No.29716924

>>29716647
>how the fuck is that a protection against inflation?
smart money temporarily wants to be liquid so they can buy up assets initially. remember, for prices to rise, there has to be a bigger fool to pay the higher price. the smart man buys up what commodities will be bid up early and sells later at a much higher price, hoping to sell the top. market speculation dynamics don't really change--but prices do and wages dont.

>> No.29716965

>>29716735

they aren't even done with stimulus dude

>> No.29716989

>>29716875
I wrote a thesis paper on MMT last year (before COVID) that my professor practically jerked off to and I can't remember what my conclusion was.

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>>29715456

Inflation will come more like the 1970s then Weimar.

Interest rates won't rise though, people who think the interest rates will rise and the bond vigilantes can win are the weakest race. The fed can keep interest rates low even with 50% inflation a month.

>> No.29717074

>>29716965
Already priced in since June.
S&P is trading at like 40 times earnings in a recession.

>> No.29717158

>>29716989
Nice, that would be a good read. I haven't gone to business school, just been working at various funds for a while now. Writing a thesis sounds enjoyable

>> No.29717218

>>29717074

Inflation can't be priced in before it's hit the market you dummy

>> No.29717373

>>29717218
Clown market rules

>Stonks need to go up to keep fair value under inflation !
>Fed printing money
>Better buy stonks as a hedge!

>> No.29717479

>>29715480
And if people spend all this money, that is bad...why?

>> No.29717603

>>29716875
>he doesn't realize that companies are tangible assets

>> No.29717869

>>29717603
>people buying stocks as an inflation hedge are value investing
kek

But that was actually my first theory as to this recent selloff.
Technically an overlooked Wall Street pariah should do exactly as well as bubblriffic meme stonk like TSLA purely as an inflation hedge

I think that explains the disproportionate recent rises in non-Gold precious metals as well.

>> No.29717895

>>29717603
yeah companies are tangible assets .. backed by debt that is denominated in USD.. you are an absolute brainlet its disgusting

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Everything's fine. Don't worry about the trillions of dollars of debt either goy. The world still has faith in the US.

>> No.29718176

>>29717895
It's good to be a debtor during inflationary periods retard. Your debt remains the same but the money you're paying it with becomes less valuable. If I owe you $100 but we go full Zimbabwe and lunch costs $100 I still only have to pay you back that measly $100.

>> No.29718320

>>29718176
So where is the new debt going to come from? Who on earth would purchase a corporate bond if inflation starts increasing at a rapid rate?

Companies would NOT be able to issue anymore debt unless they offered insane rates.

>> No.29718395

I just got a bonus and i'm sitting on a nice pile of cash with 6 months of my mortgage already paid in advance. Where the fuck do I put this shit? I want to just throw more into BTC because I refuse to buy silver at 33$ an ounce.

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>>29715456

>> No.29718455

>>29717479
Circulation of money increases GDP, but because there's so much it's a fake show of spending power. Then, when there is so much money around and people buy buy buy, demand goes up beyond what produces, so prices go up.
This is a good summary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_1pwsm5LY&t=20s

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>>29718395

>I want to just throw more into BTC because I refuse to buy silver at 33$ an ounce.

Don't be a fool, anon. BTC won't survive hyperinflation. If you won't buy physical then at least become a silver-stock chad. >>29718414

>> No.29718530

>>29717895
So is my crypto going to get rekted along with cash? Only real estate, and pm’s are good safe assets to hedge against hyperinflation?

>> No.29718915

>>29718471
I literally just bought 100 oz's at 16$ an oz with my first stimmy check though. If I buy anymore silver i'm gonna need to buy another safe first.

>> No.29719061

>>29718395
>He took a loan

Pay your fucking loan off ASAP because your dont actually own anything.

>> No.29719127

>>29718530
We don't know. The only data we have is that in third world countries, when hyper-inflation occurred there was an outflow of cash to RE, PM, and even cryptos.

It's not 1:1 though .. nobody really knows for certain what would happen. It's unprecedented

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>>29715456
Whats stopping you guys from buying a home in full in a state that protects property assets from lenders?

For example, in Texas, its illegal for a secured loan to be fulfilled by taking the residence of person as payment. Whats stopping you from giving your car away to your best friend, who lets you drive it. Racking up over 200k in credit card debt and filing bankruptcy with your new found assets which you an violently invest into crypto markets?

>> No.29719549

So if I know that there's going to be no way for me to pay off my student loans in the next decade or two, would my best option be to stock up on tangible assets now in the hopes of selling them off as the money inflates to pay that loan long term thru the storm?

>> No.29719687

>>29719260
Lenders wont be the issue. It will be the gov and the hordes of angry peasants you need to worry about.
Lenders haven't caught on yet to adjust their rates and will be repaid in devalued currency, no need for you to go bankrupt anon.

>> No.29719914

>>29719061
Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the amount you pay fixed? It is only the interest rate that shifts around?

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>>29718915

Better to ride the Basedhorse with the rest of your money for the potential 1000x than dump it into an inevitable black hole like BTC.

>> No.29720121

>>29719549
Yeah, but that was true 6 months ago too. Student loan interest is a joke, not to mention the floating possibility that it'll get cancelled the second the Biden administration needs political capital.

>> No.29720132

>>29716505
railroad stocks maybe? trucking infrastructure that takes food and hard goods across the country?

>> No.29720245

>>29716875
>I'm not sure if hyper-inflation is going to occur - its not clear if modern monetary theory is sustainable
Of course it isnt sustainable. Do you really think J Powell cracked the code to free money that noone else discovered for 3000 years?

>> No.29720319

>>29715456
If you’re scared of inflation buy commodities and oil stocks

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>>29716647
>"hold my bags so I can buy some physical assets"
>you're left with bags no one wants to buy
The eternal boomer was right all along

>> No.29720500

>>29717479
Lots and lots of money chasing goods that are not available is not a desirable situation at all.

>> No.29720520

>>29718414
Fuck off with the shilling of this PnD already.

>> No.29720536

>>29716875
So if you believe so passionately about inflation then take out as many loans as you can and get a big mortgage while you can. Low interest rate loans are the best hedge against inflation

>> No.29720778

>>29718176
>>29718078
Oil is traded in US dollars. The petro dollar reigns supreme. All inflation will be off set with high oil prices and those dollars spent on high crude prices will pay national debt and be recycled. Get ready for 5 dollar gas and more wars

>> No.29720848

can you explain to someone who is retarded why hyperinflation would happen here?

>> No.29720850

>>29718395
Unironically buy some land. Make a down payment on other property. Low interest rate is hedge on inflation. Or buy oil stocks

>> No.29721012

>>29720848
A better question would be the opposite case, why wouldn't it happen here and now? There's absolutely no reason it wouldn't happen here, fiat currency has survived exactly zero (0) times throughout history

>> No.29721155

>>29721012
Petrodollar. 150$ oil offset the money printing during the 2008-2011 recession. The same will happen again soon. JP Morgan is estimating $190 oil by 2023.

>> No.29721538

>>29721155
I don't understand, is a set amount of oil the peg for the dollar?

>> No.29721878

>>29721538
I think the reasoning is this:
Oil is only listed in USD. If you try to list in anything else, the Navy kills you.

Printing dollars increases the price of oil, which in turn increases global demand for the dollar.

This means that the rest of the world sucks up the extra dollars the US prints purely because they need oil to function.

>> No.29721948

>>29721538
All you need to understand is sell everything in your portfolio and buy oil/energy stocks

>> No.29721991

>>29718320
>Companies would NOT be able to issue anymore debt unless they offered insane rates.

Privately, this is correct. This is a huge part of the problem. You can't convince private individuals or corporations to willingly lose money buying debt that will be inflated away.

Many modern corporations REQUIRE continuously cycling debt financing to operate and must be able to issue corporate bonds or they go bankrupt and shut down. Shutting down leads to lost productivity, jobs, wages, and ultimately tax revenue. Lost tax revenue means the governments deficits are larger, which requires either straight up printing (inflation) or cutting services which leads to lost productivity, jobs, wages, and ultimately again less tax revenue, continuing the cycle. The alternative is that the government (central bank) buys those corporate bonds (which has been happening in the US and all over the world since COVID lockdowns started) despite knowing that the bonds will be a net loss due to inflation. Those bond purchases are fueled with tax revenue, or in the case of a deficit they are fueled by printing, in either case creating feedback loops where deficits lead to more deficits and printing leads to more printing.

Read about Japan's Lost Decade and zombie corporations and zombie banks.

>> No.29722275

>>29718176
Not if your interest rate on debt is variable.

>> No.29723033

what do i do as a leaf im hearing we r fucked. put in spy and crypto? or gold and pm stocks?

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>>29715456
Are Chinese equities and/or currency a good hedge against hyperinflation in the U.S.? What about Chinese government bonds?

>> No.29723427

>>29723103
China is the largest holder of US treasuries, they're about to be the biggest bagholder of them all

>> No.29723546

>>29723427
Hasn't China been accumulating pm, especially gold for a while tho? Like from canada, wouldn't they be the best of in this, or better than canada and us?

>> No.29723680

>>29723546
Russia is in a much better position than china on the PM's i think

>> No.29723778

>>29715456
Buy every non dividend paying stock out there. AKA tech

>> No.29723912

>>29715456
>All currencies hyperinflate, losing their value, and new currencies must be created, erasing all personal fiat assets to 0, but because Banks and Boomers own houses, they will come out on top (again) and wealth will be concentrated even further.
I this the gist of it?

>> No.29724061

>>29723680
Yea Russia will survive remember Russia has fucktons of oil. China does not

>> No.29724324

>>29724061
Russia will be fine, they always make it. China, on the otherhand, we will see large scale chink cannibalism again in just a few years

>> No.29724531

not worried about inflation because my money is safe in Dogecoin

>> No.29724700

Canada will collapse before USA. When it does you have weeks not months before the usd collapses.

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>>29716875
This is so dumb. If I own 10% of Tesla, tomorrow if the dollar is worth 10 times less I will still own 10% of tesla, and I'll charge you more than I was charging yesterday for it.

>> No.29724847

>>29717895
Company ownership is backed by shares which don't inflate.

>> No.29724907

Anybody have Burry's doomtweets?

>> No.29725052

>>29716875
Let's say you own 100 of 1000 total shares in a company. Suddenly inflation happens and the company is selling widgets for twice the price but twice the cost to produce. The value of your shares will double. Yes it is a simplified example. But as demonstrated unless the company cannot adapt and goes under your shares will retain relative value.

>> No.29725060

>>29718176
Just pointing out that your analogy is more accurate to some South American country rather than Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe would be like lunch costing $170,000 one week, then $550k, and then for silver pennies only

>> No.29725098

>>29715456
We are entering a deflationary period actually. Rates are spiking, dollar is strengthening and its all working out just fine.

The people in charge of this have multiple doctorates in the field and have been doing it at a high level since before you were born; who the fuck are you?

>> No.29725184

>>29721878
until other countries say fuck that and trade oil outside opec (which they already are), then all the USD that's been shipped out to offset inflation comes rushing back

>> No.29725313

>>29725098
and they still can't stop it because deflation hits before inflation

>> No.29725318

>>29717895
Yes average company debt is near historic highs. Lots would benefit from increased inflation.

>> No.29725370

Why do midwits always appeal to authority?

>> No.29725400

>>29725098
>guys look the water's lower than ever before what kind of retard thinks this means a tsunami

>> No.29725412
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Argie here, lived 2 hyperinflations and over 10 years of 30%+ yearly inflation, ask anything you want about inflation and how it fuck up everything.

>inb4 not white
i'm too black to be white and too white to be white, too european to be spic but too brown to be european, fuck my shit up.

pic kind of related, it was the foreign currency exchange rules back from 2011, now it's only 200 USD/month allowed for regular adquisition (otherwise you need to do it thru bonds, crypto or other methods)

>> No.29725441

>>29715456
OP you are doing gods work making /IG/ keep it up

>> No.29725502

>>29720778
This

>> No.29725580

>>29720850
Would be a good idea if home prices weren't up 10% this quarter.

>> No.29725607

>>29725412
In hindsight, what day to day items would you stock? I read a post about living in an eastern european warzone and butane lighters became gold

>> No.29725632

Would it be a good time to go long on commodities? Or get call options on things like beef and timber?

>> No.29725681

I have lefie frens who actually think that cancelling student loan is basically like a gubmint tax cut. They think the money was already printed and handed to the colleges, and our repayments land directly back in the treasury. They also think that raising corporate taxes will help any loss of revenue the gov might incur from said tax cut.
How to redpill?

>> No.29725718

>>29724907
Bump

>> No.29725732

>>29720536

where is this dude going to get the money to pay back the loans? your wage slave salary stays the same, unless you sell goods directly or contract.

>> No.29725767

>>29723103
No. China is notorious for nationalizing things fully or partially. They also change the rules on companies and equities in ways that for example. Alibaba stocks could become worthless to non Chinese citizens.

>> No.29725869

>>29718471
Tell me, are precious metals the only good asset to protect yourself against inflation? Aren't there any better assets? I think (((they))) are fucking too much with precious metals.

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So where should I put my money in a hyper inflation scenario?

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almost all the printed USD due to qe has been deposited into bank loan collateral accounts that banks can do nothing with except cover loans. there is no inflation because the fed doesnt actually want inflation. when there is real inflation, the fed will increase interest rates and crash the markets with no survivors. until then (2022) the party continues
buy the dip

>> No.29725980 [DELETED] 

I’m an American in dire need of a good Christian brother to extend a helping hand, if you can spare anything you will be saving my life and faith, thank you and God bless America.
0xCa088F11d4a8eB171297366E23bef988017DB12c

>> No.29726055

>>29725098
Lockdowns caused short term deflationary pressures. The worry is what comes next. I suspect that since virtually every currency in the world is under the same pressures the worry over US inflation is is over stated and more likely to be high 5-10% but far from hyperinflation.

>> No.29726124

>>29715456
>emptybrain-meme.jpg
durrrrr
huuuurrrr
the fed says there isn't enough inflation
inflation is only less than "2%"
the fed told me that
so where's the inflation, idiots?
durrrrrrrhurrr
DHURURURR
>drooling all over myself like a retarded retard
WHERE'S THE INFLATION I DON'T SEE ANY AND THE FED SAYS THERE IS NONE DURRHRURRR

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Reminder that nobody thought the Mark could ever inflate because it was considered the unofficial second reserve currency.

>> No.29726138

>>29725732
Are you stupid? You could sell the house to pay the mortgage and profit too
You could instabuy goods like food, or hygiene stuff, wait for the hyperinflation, sell them and profit too

>> No.29726235

>>29725925
Can someone answer this, I am a brainet and don't know either

>> No.29726317

>>29725980
Fuck of Pajeet.

>> No.29726417

>>29725980
You forgot to include what coin that address is

>> No.29726418

>>29726137
Holy shit, history does repeat itself

>> No.29726441

>>29725925
>>29726235
A lot of people say pm and commodities but in reality if *hyper* inflation happened, land would be a good bet. Also if it happens you could buy A LOT of personal hygiene products, and resell them

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Book is banned on Amazon

>> No.29726522

>>29726441
How about real estate funds?

>> No.29726524

Right now inflation isn't glaringly obvious because all of the new funny money hasn't ((((trickled down)))). But within a month, those big stimulus checks will put right into the hands of people who won't save it or invest it, but spend it all. I believe this is when the CPI will go up and inflation will become evident.

>> No.29726529

>>29726124
People don't just hold cash today though without investing it somewhere.

>> No.29726576

Everything is going to crash soon. Unironically, hold a large cash position. Wait a few months then buy the dip. But its not going to be a sharp recovery, were in for years of suffering. Good luck lads save your money

>> No.29726623

>>29726235
$ROPE

>> No.29726690

>>29726524
Inflation will only come when people are allowed out again. Then it will be a rush to spend whatever you can as fast as you can before the next person does. A crash will come right before that, though, to wipe out the speculators and the overleveraged, i.e. everyone. Then the real money printing begins. The government will make sure it gets paid before everyone else, and this requires an exponentially increasing amount of money.

Every single German Mark in existence in 1922 was not enough to buy a German newspaper in 1923.

>> No.29726749

>>29726690
>The government will make sure it gets paid before everyone else

You mean the central bank

>> No.29726768

>>29725400
Enjoy holding your metals as they crater over the rest of this year and into the next.

Buying physical metals is retarded with the premiums so high combined with the high price. If you really think they will moon buy LEAPS in the futures or ETFs. I myself am stacking Bayhorse right now, partially for the aforementioned reasons, partially because I own more physical than I’m comfortable storing already in my house at prices half what they are now, but primarily cause I like the style of the boomer who owns it and it’s cheap as fuck.

>> No.29726804

>>29726749
There's no real difference anymore. The Fed is completely beholden to the Treasury.

>> No.29726825

>>29726441
PM sounds good, can't afford land myself and buying daily usage items sounds like a good plan too. I'd be scared to get robbed though since you can't legally own guns here.

>> No.29726904

>>29726804
No. It’s entirely the opposite

>> No.29727136

>>29726904
>the fed is slowly monetizing the entirety of the US national debt, which is issued by the treasury
>the fed chairman is selected by the President
>no chairman has ever gone against US policy since Volcker, the last good one
>Powell has done whatever donald told him to do
>Yellen's last job was Secretary of the Treasury
>now she's going to be Chairman of the Fed
I'm genuinely curious as to why you think the Fed controls the government instead of the other way around.

>> No.29727294

>>29720778
Wars that benefit Israel of course.

>> No.29727361

>>29727136
those governmental figures are chosen by the central bankers.

>> No.29727482

>>29727361
That's not true. Yellen was replaced because Trump hated women.

>> No.29727534

>>29727136
Also note that the banking act of 1935 lengthened the terms of office of the members of the fed Board to 14 years. Meaning these directors of the nations finances, although not elected by the people, hold office longer than three presidents

>> No.29727556

>>29725925
>>29726235
real estate
guns
ammo
water
canned food
lighters
a strong community

>> No.29727628

Any of you richfags wanna help a fag in a country with constant hyperinflation? Cause I reeaaally need help

>> No.29727645

>>29727482
The adults are speaking child.

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>>29715456
Stock up on guns, ammo, and water purification methods.

>> No.29727741

>>29727645
That was literally the reason.

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>>29724907

>> No.29727886

>>29727741
Putin sent him a snapchat telling him to do it retard

>> No.29727916
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>>29726460
What is it really? I just read the entire thing today, I had it on pdf for a few years and finally found some time. It’s a good read. I can tell people could easily dismiss it as anti Jewish because of the way the descriptions of history sound. Everyone must realize that an entire group of people are not responsible for its evil and powerful individuals who exploit even their own brothers.

>> No.29727943

>>29727482
>pointing to fed chair
>doesnt know about the fed shareholders
This is why its so easy for them to manipulate everything, you get distracted by the big show. People with real power dont reveal themselves

>> No.29727962

>>29727886
Nah she just looked too much like Rosie O'Donnell + Hillary Clinton

>> No.29727972

I’m thinking buy as many masks as possible

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>>29727916
>Everyone must realize that an entire group of people are not responsible for its evil and powerful individuals who exploit even their own brothers
They can when even brothers they've fucked over will get back with them to fuck over anybody who isn't one of their own brothers

>> No.29728088

Ridiculous question: anyone know if stamps held their value in other hyperinflation scenarios? Some ppl have mad stamp collections...

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>>29726460
Based and History of Central banking pilled.

Mandatory reading for /IG/

>> No.29728133

>>29727943
Exactly.

>> No.29728252

IF there is going to be a hyper inflation, shouldnt you take out a loan to buy assets like gold, silver, land, etc right now?

>> No.29728280

>>29727916
>Everyone must realize that an entire group of people are not responsible for its evil and powerful individuals who exploit even their own brothers.
read the protocals of the learned elders of zion.
damn thing reads like a newspaper. Jews are parasites and just because they have some good goys running around does not mean they are not holding his leash. this occurred because after napoleon beat prussia he emancipated the jews allowing them to get back into money lending causing them to become the powerhouse they are today. This occured with the rothschilds and allowed modern banking to occur. The jews with their new found wealth were able to infest and destroy the monarchies leading to the shitfest we have today.

basically the TL;DR of the situation is if you reject the Catholic church and its strict moral laws for governments you will be enslaved by Jews who hide behind democratic rule of the proletariat but control them through propaganda and a sea of shabbos goys hiding the real rulers.

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Gold, Silver and Bitcoin seem to me the easiest ways to protect your wealth in a hyper inflation.

>>29728252
Yes.

>> No.29728393

>>29724907
https://twitter.com/BurryArchive

>> No.29728635

>>29727995
>falls for 2000 yr old memes
dank

My /biz/ heroes are the Medici's and Rothschilds.

>>29727916
Jews are the unfortunate result of a bad PR. Its no wonder they stuck together. Their religion allowed them to speculate, and the world hates speculators.

Just people are financially retarded (throughout all of history) don't understand what speculation is so its easier to just say jews because then you can rally the huddled masses against them using religious pretext without explaining the concept of speculation.

Any time speculators appear in history they get the same treatment as jews.

>tfw fully expecting to be hung for being a wealthy speculator within the next 20 years

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>>29728635
Fuck off kike

>> No.29728763

>>29728635
Would you speculate hyper inflation is coming? What kind of moves would you make if you only had 50,000$ to your name on this day?

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>>29728635

Some people just need to die friend.

>> No.29728825

>>29728694
ngmi

Work in finance. Jews give great Christmas presents.
You ever notice how Neo-Nazis live in squalor? Its cuz they're not very good at making money by being anti-sematic.
I like making money. What do you like?

>> No.29728913

>>29728825
Spreading awareness of jewish dominance in the US

>> No.29728969

>>29728635
>T. ever more nervous kike realizing his cousins are doing the same antics that has gotten all of them kicked out of over 100 nations
,
Usury, promoting sexual immorality, war profiteering, child abduction, child sacrifice, coin clipping, aiding a nations enemy, undercutting markets, the list goes on and on and you rats seem to always assume its because the races who you infest and welcomed you originally are intolerant. there is no Anti-Semitism without Semintism.

Mark these words, you kikes have an actual holocaust in your future and no one is to blame but yourselves.

>> No.29728979

what am i gonna do with physical silver once there's hyperinflation. how am i gonna find someone to buy it?

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>>29728825
Neo nazis are poorfags for the same reason communists and libertarians are poorfags. It is because they are ideologues that spend more time thinking in a ideological framework instead of making money.

You seem like a philo semite, perhaps you would like my Waifu Negev?

>> No.29729044

>>29725098
>appeals to authority
Brrrrr

>> No.29729155

>>29728969
>Usury, promoting sexual immorality, war profiteering, child abduction, child sacrifice, coin clipping, aiding a nations enemy, undercutting markets
>bad

Its like you hate making money?

>> No.29729261

>>29729155
The literal mindset of a parasite

>> No.29729318

>>29721878
>Oil is only listed in USD.
didn't Russia and China open their own Oil exchange denominated in gold or something?

>> No.29729414

>>29728825
>makes an ideology criminally punishable by law
>at worst you spend your life in jail for pointing out jewish activity, at best you lose your job.

Kike anon you do realize many goyim hold extremely anti-semitic views of you and aren't allowed to voice them openly because of organizations like the ADL and b'nai brith or all the other kike organizations that exist?

You also do realize you are heading directly for another shoah and the dollar collapsing will cause you yids to be universally hanged with no where to run with only jewish activity to blame right? or are you kikes that incapable of self reflection that you just constantly do this to yourselves and conduct mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that the races you infest were just jelly or something along those lines?

>> No.29729465

>>29728979
I'd rather but crypto and oil

>> No.29729479

>>29729414
>or are you kikes that incapable of self reflection
It's why vampires can't see themselves in the mirror

>> No.29729561

>>29729155
>Why do they persecute us?

>> No.29729571

>>29725370
The midwit is intelligent enough to understand instinct exists but trys to fight them, and he understands that he is not really that intelligent
He arrives at the conclusion that its better to follow the most intelligent, and really thinks that this is the authority
The genuine stupid just exists on an instinctual level, he doesn't ask why something is, he just is one with the natural world and doesn't care for the opinion of others
The truly intelligent understands instinct exists and also why they are good, he may try to analyze them but not to suppress them like the midwit
he notices that authorities are either less intelligent than him or blatantly corrupt, so he doesn't care for the opinion of others as long as they dont bring good arguments he understands

>> No.29729663

>>29729479
The parallels between Dracula and jews are so astounding that at this point I think the story is just a fable explaining Jews to young children.

>> No.29729733

>>29728979
People dive in sewers in Venezuela to find pieces of silver. 1 oz will buy you 6 months of food there. You don't exchange it for worthless currency if hyperinflation happens, you trade it for valuable goods and services.

>> No.29730352

>>29728979
>see something you like
>show owner silver
>is shiny
>exchange silver for what you want in a trade between two parties
>no third party needed
>this kills the fed
>???
>profit

>> No.29730372

>>29715456
Alright so far oil stocks, crypto, and silver(because I'm a poorfag who cant afford gold) are all buys. What else should I buy? Would any of you recommend canned foods? Also what type of inflation are we gonna see here 2008 or absolute germantier

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Looks like a faggot ass doomer thread with no meaningful discussion. You should all do the world a favor and kill yourself. Youre going to die alone in your barbed wire shed with your useless silver rocks anyway

>> No.29730718

>>29730569
No you don't understand.
We are all going to die.
Repeatedly.

>> No.29730818

>>29715456
So collectables such as pokemon cards, yugioh cards, etc will be good to have incase of inflation

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>>29730569
The Bible is very accurate. It has staked its claim to truth by repeatedly predicting future events. No other religion has done this. It has time and time again been completely accurate in those predictions. There is coming a point when 25% of the world dies. And then after that another 33%. Repent. The Kingdom of God is at hand.

>> No.29731324

>>29725412
We're people actually purchasing things with precious metals or is this a meme that PM holders (like myself) like to larp about?

What is a low effort lucrative business venture to get into now so that we can thrive through the inflation?

>> No.29731407

>>29730974
And yet no one knows the hour.
Best to live a virtuous life.
This ain't our home anyways so no need to worry overmuch about the apocalypse.
Not saying being prepared is a bad concept but you shouldn't go full nutbar either.

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>>29725607
You mean this post?

I'm going to pull the trigger on a bulk case of lighters because of this.

>> No.29731469

>>29726138
You need a buyer to sell to.

Nobody's buying your shit shack for ten billion dollars when they're still making pennies.

>> No.29731797

>>29718176
debt is handled differently. after a currency reform debt to new currency has a different rate than deposits. thats what happened in germany several times.
taking out huge loans wont be a good strategy.

>> No.29731856

>>29731409
Yes thanks, where'd you buy the bulk pack? I see a 50 count on amazon for 44

Anybody have recommendations on a cheap Pelican case alternative?

>> No.29731909

>>29731409
Nevermind fuck bic, they're 100pack for 15 of the off brands

>> No.29732404

>>29731909
Exactly. $30 for 200 lighters. Worst case scenario I'm out $30 and never need to buy a lighter again in my life. Lol

>> No.29732451

>>29731409
wow.

>> No.29733141

>>29730569
>haha all these Tech stocks make me feel so ALIVE haha I love buying meme stocks on robinhood.

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>>29724907
This is really interesting.

>> No.29734547

>>29734212
In don't get it.

>> No.29734581

>>29734547
me neither someone explain pls

>> No.29734829

>>29734547
>>29734581
I'm not sure I understand IOER fully, but it seems like the yields of the 2yr/10yr bonds have decoupled from the IOER(Interest on Excess Reserves(Which I think is just sitting money in financial institutions/banks)).

So I guess the interest rates on the banks have to come up at somepoint to meet the bond yields.

I dont know if that would violent or if it's suppressed by some other financial mechanism.

That's my take from reading this article though, If anyone knows more. please clarify
https://twitter.com/BurryArchive/status/1365174401457680386
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/excess_reserves.asp