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[Anonymous No.29588232]

>just found out my dad used to be a commie in his 20s
The piece of shit is not getting a single cent off my stack when I make it.

[Anonymous No.29588279]

>>29588232
commies are right. the rich are too rich and the poor are too poor.

[Anonymous No.29588396]

If he was a commie out of choice, that's a good idea.

[Retiree No.29588872]

Okay?

Ungrateful faggot. You could have shown him the value of capitalism and how it's helped you achieve financial success.

[Anonymous No.29589501]

Dont you believe in redemption anon?

[Anonymous No.29589551]

>>29588279
facts

[Anonymous No.29589600]

Some of the most based people in this world are ex-commie boomers.

[Anonymous No.29589669]

Lots of people go through a commie phase. The point is that you grow up eventually.

[Anonymous No.29589684]

>>29588232
Your father probably raped your mother and you are the result

[Anonymous No.29589726]

>>29588232
Hyper-capitalists like you can only find self-worth through your capital. Re-read your statement, Anon. It is clear the only thing you value in this world is money, more than your own father. Unfeeling, uncaring, and no amount of money will ever make you happy.

[Anonymous No.29589988]

I'm the son of God, how do you think I feel?

[Anonymous No.29590096]

>>29588232

[Anonymous No.29590112]

>>29588279
this

[Anonymous No.29590207]

>>29589726

Communists are obsessed with money too. Obsessed with their own lack of money. People who don't care about money aren't extreme in any way, they just live, work, do things.

[Anonymous No.29590293]

>>29588279
no shit everyone knows this. but they think they'll solve it by turning everyone into trannies. actual retards

[Anonymous No.29590414]

>>29588279
This, fuck jews

[Anonymous No.29590485]

>>29588279
Commies don’t want to change that dynamic. They just want to be the ones on top.

[Anonymous No.29591001]

>>29588232
Being idealistic under 25 is fine, but after that age it's just pathetic.

[Anonymous No.29591121]

>>29590485
stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.29591900]

>>29590414
communism was created by a literal jew you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.29592092]

>>29588279
maybe they should focus on that instead of trying to turn everyone into faggy trannies

[Anonymous No.29592155]

>>29588872
Wouldn't have to waste time trading internet coins if we didn't have capitalism.

[Anonymous No.29592214]

>being mad at your dad for being a retarded 20something year old

[Anonymous No.29592286]

>>29588279
You can agree with that and still hate commie scum

[Anonymous No.29592352]

>>29588232
Why the fuck isn't het a commie anymore?
Marxism is based. Too bad people got brainwashed into thinking
>Muh Marxism bad

[Anonymous No.29592366]

>>29592286
If you agree with that and still hate commies you simply don't understand communism

[Anonymous No.29592430]

>>29590485
>they just want to be the ones on top
Who the fuck doesn't lmao

[Anonymous No.29592463]

>>29588232
So was Mussolini, what is your point?

[Anonymous No.29592494]

I am unironically a communist, been trading crypto since 2014 ama

[Anonymous No.29592565]

>>29590293
>>29592092
You've been mislead by literal propaganda but you will be too stubborn to see your way out of it

[Anonymous No.29592601]

>>29591121
>commies get in power and outlaw unions
>retards insist that it doesn't count and was not real communism
every time

[Anonymous No.29592616]

>>29588279
tf are you saying? poor people are filthy rich if you compared to 300 years ago.
the only reason their wealth started to decline is because of commies in the 60’ expanding muh gibs

[Anonymous No.29592652]

>>29592155
All time spend starving to death

[Anonymous No.29592701]

My dad was in the military police in his 20s and beat up communists when the military took over the government.

[Anonymous No.29592728]

>>29588232
Sorry bro, your genes are shit. Now you'll have to breed some woman right of Terry Davis or your kids will be gay like your dad.

[Anonymous No.29592729]

>>29588232
he was right faggot

[Anonymous No.29592736]

>>29592366
this.

>>29592286
maybe you can, but you can't praise economic liberalism or ancap if you believe that, because not having any interference on economy is just simply letting it be as it is, and as of now it is like that

[Anonymous No.29592739]

>>29590293
this
apparently right wing tards are more woke than leftards

[Anonymous No.29592765]

>>29588232
You should rape him to assert your dominance

[Anonymous No.29592828]

>>29592616
Marx actually agreed that capitalism would raise the living standard of the lowest classes at the expense of a widining gap of inequality between workers and owners

[Anonymous No.29592835]

>>29588232
My dad was a minuteman in the 60's.

Some people don't get a good dad lol

[Anonymous No.29592844]

>>29588232
you dont know how communists work.
your dad will claim to be a woman.
file rape charges on you.
then sue you for everything you have.
then you'll go to jail where you will be raped about 10 times in 20 years..
forced to suck the smells off.

your dad will donate all your money to blm.
then marry a young black man.

then when you get out.
your fathers husband will demand you call him dad.
and you have to walk around with him in public and call him daddy.

[Anonymous No.29592870]

>>29592701
shithole country citizens are not allowed to post here

[Anonymous No.29592891]

>>29588279
>the rich are too rich and the poor are too poor.
People who think this should be shot.
Every single commie is just jealous and turns into a capitalist when they gain wealth.
If you live in a first world country and are poor it's your own fucking fault, the only people who really can't work their way up live in socialist hellholes.

[Anonymous No.29592981]

>>29592155
Yeah you wouldn't have internet.

[Anonymous No.29592982]

>>29592736
>and as of now it is like that
no it's not you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.29592999]

>>29592828
wtf gives a shit about inequality, poverty/living standard is the only thing that matters, and not in relative terms but absolute ones.

[Anonymous No.29593029]

>>29592155
yeah you would do whatever the fuck the state tells you to do instead
and I guarantee you will fucking hate it, it's not going to be nice

[Anonymous No.29593109]

>>29588232
Based, fuck commies

[Anonymous No.29593136]

>>29592982
This
>>29592999
Based

[Anonymous No.29593160]

>>29588232
dude my father was a commie aswell in his 20s, but he was government indoctrinated, it's normal.

Commies can change.

[Anonymous No.29593216]

>>29589501
This

[Anonymous No.29593248]

>>29592999
actually if you look a bit into historical periods of unrest, it is absolutely the relative terms which matter here. this is why places in Africa can be dirt poor and not have any revolutionary fervour but in America you have both sides larping at coups. historically inequality is a bear guarantee of unrest where as being poor has almost no connection

[Anonymous No.29593277]

>>29590293
>>29592092
>>29592844
Very sad that this is what Americans think communism is. The CIA subversion of the 1968 movement really fucked up your country. Imagine associating communism with blue hair rampant individualism rather than based gulags and Khmer Rouge death squads.

[Anonymous No.29593340]

>>29592999
>>29593248
if you want actual data on this look into metrics like the gini coefficient

[Anonymous No.29593363]

>>29590414

You have so much to learn it's frightening

[Anonymous No.29593424]

>>29592366
You simply don't understand communists. They are just as self-serving and greedy as anyone else. They just protest to the contrary.
>>29592736
>not having any interference on economy is just simply letting it be as it is, and as of now it is like that
still a million times better than any commie shithole.

[Anonymous No.29593492]

>>29592891
>If you live in a first world country and are poor it's your own fucking fault

you don't realize how insane your statement is. you can be a 12h/day wagie and still be poor. you are working as much or even less than someone with a higher paying job, which is 100% based on market offer and demand. this has absolutely nothing to do with hard work or merit.

[Anonymous No.29593502]

>>29588232
Probably wise, but commies back then were a lot better than the bots nowadays probably. Commies of today will call themselves anarchist while supporting the state, there's a little bit of a difference.

[Anonymous No.29593508]

>>29588232
my dad too
it was even more fashionable then than it is now
all the remotely right wing boomers in my country also were commies

[Anonymous No.29593540]

>>29592999
trips checks
poverty is more important than inequality
I prefer to be a middle-class american in the 50s than a king in the 1000s

[Anonymous No.29593582]

>>29593363
a lot of the revolutionaries were Jewish but they were purged under Stalin
>Antisemitism in the Soviet Union commenced openly as a campaign against the "rootless cosmopolitan"[3] (a euphemism for "Jew"). In his speech titled "On Several Reasons for the Lag in Soviet Dramaturgy" at a plenary session of the board of the Soviet Writers' Union in December 1948, Alexander Fadeyev equated the cosmopolitans with the Jews.[26][note 2] In this campaign against the "rootless cosmopolitan", many leading Jewish writers and artists were killed.[3] Terms like "rootless cosmopolitans", "bourgeois cosmopolitans", and "individuals devoid of nation or tribe" (all of which were codewords for Jews) appeared in newspapers.[26][note 3] The Soviet press accused the Jews of "groveling before the West", helping "American imperialism", "slavish imitation of bourgeois culture" and "bourgeois aestheticism".[26][note 4] Victimization of Jews in the USSR at the hands of the Nazis was denied, Jewish scholars were removed from the sciences, and emigration rights were denied to Jews.[29] The Stalinist antisemitic campaign ultimately culminated in the Doctors' plot in 1953. According to Patai and Patai, the Doctors' plot was "clearly aimed at the total liquidation of Jewish cultural life".[3] Communist antisemitism under Stalin shared a common characteristic with Nazi and fascist antisemitism in its belief in "Jewish world conspiracy".

[Anonymous No.29593650]

>>29593363
im pro-gun to the core, but this is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever seen

[Anonymous No.29593686]

>>29588279
>the rich are too rich and the poor are too poor.
Yes.
>commies are right.
No.

[Anonymous No.29593706]

>used to be
What are we making it for anon? Show him the truth.

[Anonymous No.29593711]

>>29588232
Lol and your son will say " just found out my dad was a /poltard I'm not....". He just wanted to be edgy as you do with your current state of mind.

[Anonymous No.29593778]

>>29593582
sure that's why there was a jewish oblast but none for christians

[Anonymous No.29593792]

>>29593650

[Anonymous No.29593812]

>>29589726
Also this

[Anonymous No.29593864]

>>29593778
Why would a Christian country need a Christan oblast?

[Anonymous No.29593909]

>>29593864
>the urss was christian

[Anonymous No.29594065]

>>29593248
matter to what?
inequality produces crime while poverty does not, but that’s because of envy and class resentment; a trait that early america rejected, thats why they got rich.

[Anonymous No.29594076]

>>29593277
>The CIA subversion of the 1968 movement really fucked up your country
99% of communists I see on Twitter are LGBT and/or trans. The only modern purpose of communism is as a refuge for society's dregs and genetic dead-ends.
And all it takes is for a heckin' corporationino to wave a rainbow flag and suddenly they're consoomers.

[Anonymous No.29594088]

>>29593248
We are talking in what system people can increase their standard of living, not how to fight inequality.

Maybe your shitty ideas can change things if you live in a literal feudal system (Zars) but in most places destroys capitalism and the only way people have to escape poverty.

[Anonymous No.29594122]

>>29593909
It literally was, and current day Russia still is

[Anonymous No.29594136]

>>29592616
Actually the decline started with neoliberalism and hating on the social state and stopping paying your fair share of tax (you still pay but the wealthy do not, donny made it even worse).

[Anonymous No.29594262]

>>29593909
Actually it was, while the Bolsheviks worked hard to expropriate church property, they never managed to destroy Christian belief in the country and were constantly having to try and clean up the messes caused by their persecution of Bishops and the like

[Anonymous No.29594407]

>>29594065
I don't know what this was supposed to suggest. Are you saying Americans altered their human nature to no longer feel resentment?
>>29594088
you have no idea what my preferred system of government looks like, I'm a communist, not a socialist

[Anonymous No.29594457]

>>29594262
the state is the ruling class not the goyim slaves

[Anonymous No.29594488]

>>29593909
>knows barely anything below surface level rumours and propaganda
>tries to shittalk
Never fails to make me laugh

[Anonymous No.29594525]

>>29593248
This. What people here don't understand is that you should aspire to have a country with relatively low inequality + generally decent education. This guarantees low crime rate and the highest economic growth. If you just fuck over the poor you end up in a hostile dangerous country and you're only save in gated communities. That's not really freedom anymore and the wealthy and the poor suffer.

[Anonymous No.29594541]

>>29593248
hmm. What if you took a group of people with an average IQ 1 standard deviation lower than a country's natives and put them in said country? Then, you could tell them the reason they are poor is because the native population is suppressing or exploiting them and their grievances are justified because all the other countries that have done this also have periods of unrest. Despite all the evidence showing multiculturalism leads to conflict, you can keep pushing correlations that are beside the point to convince native people in the middle of the curve that the upper middle class natives are exploitative and evil. I would say that's a recipe for acceleration wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.29594595]

>>29594065
>class resentment; a trait that early america rejected
It was a much different time and land was easier to come by.

[Anonymous No.29594596]

>>29594457
no, when we talk about a countries religious demographics we are explicitly referring to the people

[Anonymous No.29594645]

>>29594122
>It literally was, and current day Russia still is
Ahh guess that's why I don't live in a western country because my ancestors had to flee persecution and the older members at the church I attend also never left.
Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.29594956]

>>29594541
oh man anon, you are so far gone lmao. first, if you look at well integrated multicultural counties like Canada you can easily tell that the problem is class not race. Canada only brings in rich, easy to assimilate, economic migrants who take up jobs like doctors and engineers. It's not a coincidence that it is poor, underclass immigrants who cause social issues. Also, Marx wasn't pro immigration faggot try again

[Anonymous No.29595037]

>>29594596
oblivious to the point
the kikes, a group in theory discriminated against got their own safespace
christians, a group actually prosecuted did not

>>29594488
>>>/r/history

[Anonymous No.29595040]

>>29594525
You should aspire to have a country that's racially homogeneous. You've been duped and brainwashed your entire life to believe racial nationalism is evil so you come up with a bunch of complicated ideas involving inequality and class struggle that don't address the root cause.

[Anonymous No.29595194]

>>29591121
stupid shit talking about comminusm with a seattle reference, go get yourself together before the hungarian communist lynch mob gets to you

[Anonymous No.29595275]

wow, who told you about these alts? This is shit man, don’t believe those niggers
if you wanna get pump use your IQ and follow yield farming
I participated in metalex and they made a new system, a guarantee of triple APY

[Anonymous No.29595299]

>>29595037
I recently finished Kropotkins second volume on Stalin, how many books on USSR history have you read? Also, my family were Dukhobors who were also expelled from Russia so don't give me the sob story lmao

[Anonymous No.29595390]

>>29594407
If people can acumulate capital without the state and a central bank robbing them with taxes/inflation, in a few generations they can have decent wealth, suddenly there is no reason for resentment

[Anonymous No.29595486]

>>29595299
Kotkin** not Kropotkin lmao

[Anonymous No.29595519]

>>29594956
I don't care about Marx. He offered a post industrial philosophy that doesn't apply to modern countries that have economic systems based primarily on financial services rather than manufacturing. And Canada has fewer issues than the US because you have fewer African and Mexican immigrants so I'm not really sure why you threw that in there.

[Anonymous No.29595640]

>>29588232
He didn't even know what a commie was at that point probably. Neither would you without internet access i would imagine
Besides, can you blame him with all the free puss?

[Anonymous No.29595681]

>>29595390
Uhhh anon you are sounding a lot like Marx right now, careful

[Anonymous No.29595797]

>>29595040
No matter how racially homogeneous the country is if you're poor and don't see a fair chance of becoming at least middleclass you're gonna revolt aswell, aka crime and uncertainty. You should stop visiting /pol and start to think for yourself + find the real cause of the hate inside you and get rid if it (not it's not what pol made you believe, I mean your real issues)

[Anonymous No.29595893]

Your putting politics above family which makes you no better than a communist yourself dickhead

[Anonymous No.29595997]

>>29595519
>I don't care about Marx
That's fine, refrain from discussing political theory though because you will just end up embarrassing yourself like itt

[Anonymous No.29596017]

>>29595797
how often do racially homogeneous countries have issues with both poverty and inequality?

[Anonymous No.29596109]

>>29593492
>you can be a 12h/day wagie and still be poor.

If you can't think of a better way to make money than to work 12 hours a day for below minimum wage, then you belong exactly where you are in life.

[Anonymous No.29596175]

>all of these unironic soulless, ambitionless collectivists on the fucking business and finance board
where did all go wrong?

[Anonymous No.29596247]

>>29596175
no one itt has argued for collectivism you schizo lmao

[Anonymous No.29596338]

>>29588279
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.29596340]

>>29595997
Why are you projecting this hard? If you're just going to bring up a bunch of non-arguments I'll just let you keep raging.

[Anonymous No.29596463]

>commies
fucking tourists

[Anonymous No.29596575]

>>29596340
What do you mean projecting? You admitted you are ignoring the political theorist chiefly responsible for communism, I don't need to project anything into that lmao

[Anonymous No.29596700]

>>29596463
Been here a while anon, lost all my 2017 gains on Obsidian. You were here last bullrun.... Right?

[Anonymous No.29596713]

>>29592616
>poor people are filthy rich if you compared to 300 years ago.

>be a serf 300 years ago
>wake up whenever you want
>your crops are doing okay
>literally no worries
>you eat a delicious meal made by your faithful wife
>you only have to pay a small tax to your Lord

>be a wagie today
>have to work 50 hours a week
>have to be on time at McDonalds everyday
>can’t afford a house
>can’t afford a wife
>die in misery drinking cheap alcohol

[Anonymous No.29596814]

>>29593277
the gulags are now the major democratic cities. step out of line in the city and you will be yelled at by the death squads of pink n purple trannies.
now we cant even have a fair election.
America is becoming a communist country

[Anonymous No.29596938]

>>29588279
cool it with anti semitism lad

[Anonymous No.29596954]

>>29588279
>this many commie replies
This is who I take financial advice from

[Anonymous No.29596960]

>>29588232
my dad is a card carrying socialist
all his children (3 sons and 2 daughters) are all successful capitalists

[Anonymous No.29596986]

Communism is literally just the organization of society so that free time is maximized.

[Anonymous No.29597113]

>>29596814
>communism is when the election is rigged and I'm not allowed to say nigger
okay but Marx said nigger all the time, you are angry at tumblr and twitter faggots with a hammer and sickle in their bio, not communism

[Anonymous No.29597253]

>>29595997
>here's how Marx can still win!

[Anonymous No.29597334]

>>29596700
Communist anon stop being a communist as a former communist I now understand its a ideology for failure. Think about it Slavs and Chinks were barely able to salavage it, it failed everywhere else instantly and its reasoning is circular. Its useless within relations to how we think of class today in a post industrial society and its historical outlook similarly is outright wrong and those who say otherwise are on total cope mode. Try reading non-political philosophy on top of that and you’ll see Marx’s metaphysical foundation (Hegel) is also BTFOed by Kant.

[Anonymous No.29597376]

>>29588279

This.

[Anonymous No.29597432]

>>29596960
based.
i honestly enjoy reading about the history of all the political factions. and their ideas.
it's very enlightening to the way people are.
same with religions.
they say "dont talk about religion and politics!"
but if you really study both of them..
the world begins to make sense...
how the game is played.

[Anonymous No.29597449]

>>29588279
Economic leftism only empower those who have social and sexual capital. Everyone else gets shafted.

[Anonymous No.29597475]

>>29595681
Marx would have been Ancap unironically

[Anonymous No.29597505]

>>29596017
I know you mean Japan but they're literally devoting their life for the greater good of society which is the opposite of individualism and personal freedom (it's also in every anime. Its the commies wet dream). Also they never say no and wagecuck 16h a day. Also very high suicide rate

[Anonymous No.29597555]

>>29596954
Incorrect, this is who you sell your heavy bags to.

[Anonymous No.29597611]

>>29588279
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.29597716]

>>29597334
If you read Marx, communism is defined as the real movement by which the present state of things are abolished, not totalitarian socialism a la Stalin and Mao. I have read Kant and Hegel, I'm a /lit/ philosophy fag

[Anonymous No.29597730]

>>29588232
Ha, I’m a commie now. Still going to make it. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.29597776]

>>29596017

Gilded Age ring a bell?

[Anonymous No.29597779]

>>29596017
Quite often, I don't believe there is a particularly strong correlation between racial homogeneity and economic stability.

[Anonymous No.29597821]

>forbes during the nineties
>random guy is worth 10 billion
uh nice
>forbes 2000
>random guy is worth 40 billion
eh well still nice
>forbes 2010
>random guy is worth 90 billlion
>well um
>forbes 2020
>random guy is worth 200 billion
Well fuck

[Anonymous No.29597827]

>>29597475
Much much closer to ancap than whatever they follow on twitter

[Anonymous No.29597831]

>>29596986
Sounds fun, but life is suffering unironically

[Anonymous No.29597839]

>>29588232
read blackshirts and reds

[Anonymous No.29598041]

>>29589600
This

[Anonymous No.29598117]

>>29597821
You need to go back

[Anonymous No.29598160]

>>29597831
>the real movement
Yes, because a significant amount of it is spent in unfreedom.

[Anonymous No.29598178]

>>29588232
You should beat his ass

[Anonymous No.29598274]

>>29592352
Marx was a jew so his political and economic ideas are inherently bad.

[Anonymous No.29598319]

test

[Anonymous No.29598494]

>>29595194
I love when anticommunists talk about communist being violent baby eaters when they're the ones who literally can't stop masturbating to violence

[Anonymous No.29598506]

>>29598160
>commie talking about freedom
not allowed to start a business
not allowed to buy low sell high
not allowed to raise your kids on your own
not allowed to leave the country

Very based and freedompilled indeed.

[Anonymous No.29598594]

>>29597716
>also /lit/fag
Okay curious then are you Marx inspired or an actual communist? Because most smart people I know that like Marx claim the former while its LARPers who claim the latter given I think issue with Marx’s dialect Materialism and class relations are just impossible to solve.

[Anonymous No.29598820]

>>29598594
>issue with Marx’s dialect Materialism and class relations are just impossible to solve.
The proletariat will abolish itself once labor becomes obsolete, as it is already rapidly becoming.
>>29598506
You are allowed to do whatever you want, the whole idea is simply to sever the connection between consumption and the sale of labor.

[Anonymous No.29598848]

>>29590293
kek /thread

[Anonymous No.29598967]

>>29592565
>commie talking about propaganda
Ironic

[Anonymous No.29599008]

>>29598820
I'm talking about actual communism how it was implemented in various countries, not your textbook definition which nobody cares about.

When retards say they want communism what they eventually get is what I listed.

[Anonymous No.29599180]

>>29593277
>Imagine associating communism with the only people you ever see advocating for it

[Anonymous No.29599202]

>>29599008
>I'm talking about actual communism how it was implemented in various countries, not your textbook definition which nobody cares about.
Irrelevant, history does not move in circles nor is it able to move backwards.

[Anonymous No.29599335]

>>29598967
99% of americans still believe tianamen tank man got run over and turned to pulp
99% of americans think winnie the pooh is banned in china
shut the fuck up about propaganda

[Anonymous No.29599351]

>>29598494
Communism is an offshoot of Judaism
Jews engage in blood libel ( Simon of Trent)

Do the math, golem.

[Anonymous No.29599360]

>>29599202
>reality is irrelevant
Okay retard

[Anonymous No.29599383]

>>29592616
wow that'd be cool if it was still 300 years ago but unfortunately it is today and by today's standards poor people are too poor and rich people are too rich

[Anonymous No.29599492]

>>29598820
>connection between consumption and the sale of labor.
Literally impossible since humans will grow to fill any resource surplus, thus creating scarcity once again. This scarcity of resources and time preference of acquisition of said resources is what compels people to sell their labor to those who possess economic capital.

[Anonymous No.29599536]

>>29588279
Commies are on the side of degeneracy. They always support shit like LGBT and BLM. Commies will never be a friend of the white man

[Anonymous No.29599545]

>>29594076
you're fucking clueless, dude
there are plenty of freaks that are communists for obvious reasons, but most tankies on twitter are constantly dunking on the liberal deceit of putting rainbow flags on drones and hiring gay black people to lead the pentagon

[Anonymous No.29599812]

>>29599383
"Poor" people are wealthier than ever and they will continue getting wealthier unless they vote into communism and get actually poor. See what happened in Venezuela

[Anonymous No.29599891]

>>29598967
I'm not even a commie I just think it's funny that people buy into that "cultural Marxism" shit, "cultural Bolshevism" lol

[Anonymous No.29599918]

>>29599545
I rather have a gay gibs-ocracy than tankie that'll send me to die in war and have guards beat me up to work faster. That's just a meme.

[Anonymous No.29599995]

>>29594136
>hating on the social state and stopping paying your fair share of tax
Why should I pay tax to a state that doesn't fill or support my needs? As a single childless male, I'm compelled to pay for a single mother and her child. Why is this and won't this eventually distort society?