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It's fucking over. We had pinned ALL our hopes on this day, on this trial. Craig was supposed to be legally declared to be Satoshi today. TODAY. THIS was supposed to be THE DAY when BSV began the big movement to flip BTC and become recognized as Bitcoin. Now nothing changes! NOTHING. I can't believe Craig's people at the trial fucked themselves over this badly. Why did he hire such incompetents!? They completely botched their presentation of the evidence and the judge was confused as fuck and thought BSV was a different crypto than Bitcoin. There is no, ZERO, recovery from this fuckup. It's over. This is it. What the fuck am I supposed to do with my SV coins now? They will never be pumped, will they? I invested so much in this. I like Craig and I believe in the tech but holding this was a huge mistake for me personally from a financial viewpoint. I believed in CSW, I bought BCH at 4k, 3k, 2k, 1600 etc all the way down the bear market. Then I converted all BCH to BSV back when BCH/BSV ratio was closer to 1:1. I'm still down a lot of money from 2017+. So far BSV has done jack shit. I could have made tons of gains with other coins. I wouldn't have minded holding for this long if only the bullrun would have finally started now. We were expecting 9000% gains this year (at minimum) but now fucking nothing is going to happen! This is a disaster, there's just no way around it, it's an absolute fucking disaster.

>> No.29194097
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i bought into the hype and bought a ton of moneybutton names

>> No.29194104

>>29193946
$5 EOY

>> No.29194128

>>29193946
>this fud again
stay poor

>> No.29194166

>>29193946
>>29194128
I'm actually all in BSV and have 952 BSV. I just FUD my own investment because it's clown world so why the fuck not.

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Why is it the only Bsv threads allowed to stay open are the ones IDF starts?

I’ll make an informative thread and the mods here archive it with zero posts

IDF who hates BSV because they sick Chinese cock (BTC) , decides to post BSV fud threads as a desperate attempt to accumulate—

These FUD threads don’t get archived and IDF runs their chat bots through the thread. Glass israel already

>> No.29194328

Trial isn't finished retard.
Just remember, OP is a third world loser who shills for shekels. Your grandparents were losers, your parents are losers and you'll die a loser too. Prove me wrong faggot, time stamp shot of your arm. Not going to be white is it?

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>>29194166
My current BSV holdings

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>people fed up with high fees trading tokens on eth
>move to a completely centralized version of it to continue trading tokens at lower fees negating the entire purpose of crypto
>bsv has scam tokens too, fiixed supply decentralized with lower fees than Binance and will stay that way because unlimited scale

This world is fucking depressing.

>> No.29194648

>>29194508
>hot wallet

Absolute madman.

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>>29194581
Kill yourself disinfo IDF kike

>> No.29194780

>>29194648
Stop being a pussy you glowinthedark pussy

>> No.29194833

>>29194706
Nothing about my post is disinfo. What are you talking about?

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>>29194833
Kill yourself IDF insect

>> No.29194966

>>29193946
You should have followed the miners, they have pure profit motive. Monero is a much better form of satoshi's actual vision.

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>>29194935
You first.

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>>29193946
>Seeing the same shit 3 days in a row
Shut up already, your fud makes more people intrested. BSV is actually legit, super easily scalable, simple and true to original vision of one ledger. Have lot of commercial usage, enables big and advanced smart contracts (check https://scrypt.io) and is feasible for any transaction type you retard can imagine, with transactions fee less than 0.0001$ and throughput 10000tps. Check https://metastore.app/..

>fud more you paid pajeet, we don't care, we are busy building

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>>29194966
Chinese hands typed this broken English

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>>29195002
I own more bsv than you IDF kike- we are done with your little false flag pump/dumps on /biz/. Get fucked.

>> No.29195256

Imagine there are people still holding this shit
Unbelievable

>> No.29195375

>>29193946
It's not like we didn't tell you.

>> No.29195449
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>>29195006
>>29195101
How do we get retards to start trading SV tokens? Don't get me wrong. I fucking hate the shitcoin casino, but if these faggots are going to do this anyway, they may as well do it on our chain.

>> No.29195736

>>29193946
Why scared OP?
I'm a no coiner, so my opinion might not matter much, but if there is one coin I would fully invest in, it would be BSV.
Its suppression is a green flag for me.
When the bubble bursts, and it will happen, it'll the best one to remain alive since it's the most isolated, and is actually scalable.
Don't look through logos. Looks through networks.

>> No.29195845

>>29195449
They will my fren, they will. Their money is just too stupid right now

>> No.29195868

>>29194508
What sources do you use?
Your discern radar seems trustworthy

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>>29193946
This shill must be seething, he just can't accept that he is on the wrong side of histroy.

>> No.29195987

The fuck? BCH? BSV? in the game since 2017? Why didn't you just put it all in BTC and kick back?

>> No.29196223

>>29195987
I've been in the game since 2013, and I'm 100% in BSV. Bitcoin original gansters understand bitcoin, and thus sold the segwit garbage after bitcoin was hijacked.

>> No.29196513

>>29196223
When do you think it'll become noticeable?

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>>29195845
I need to just start doing things onchain to earn BSV. Thanks for linking that meta site. Its given me some ideas.

This thread has kinda been a whitepill. The world will know we were right.

>> No.29196666

>>29196513
After Craig Wright is done with his trials, and people focus on the tech instead of focusing on a witch hunt. It's going to be this year. It's beginning to get traction now, with tokens, and many new projects.

>> No.29196754

>>29195736
its supression lmao
its literally just wash traded garbage
people literally never load cash on exchanges to buy it basically completely illiquid its market cap is based on BTCcore/ core volume lol any liquidity it has is because of core

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>>29196666
Checked

I hope so man. It's been a hell of a fucking ride since the Segwit split.

>> No.29196914

>>29194581
Yes the only purpose of crypto is decentralisation and not micropayments and frictionless money.

>> No.29196944

>>29196666
checks out

>> No.29196971

>>29196666
Forgive me if I sound like a brainlet, but is ETH going down with bitcoin as well?
The defi foundation is the center of attention among the crypto sphere, and everyone keeps saying there is going to be lower gas fees. The structure seems complicated tho for plebs to use, so I don't see how it would move forward

>> No.29196985

>>29196914
SV has all three of those.

>> No.29197111

>>29195256
bought at $60
massively undervalued right now
>do the math

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>>29196223
2012 here, all in on BSV

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>>29197111
Witnessed

>> No.29197282

>>29196971
I think ETH will go down as well because most of this hype is speculation and gambling on shitcoins, and I dont see much utility in a protocol that doesn't scale and is only used for speculation. Any fee above a penny is absurd for trading tokens. Also, BSV solves real life problems in various fields, and is cheap, locked down, and much more reliable, also more simple (no sidechains).

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>>29196666
Checked.
BSV likes 6s.

>>29196971
Yes ETH will get taken down. First USDT will fail then ETH will fail because people realise that the unstoppablr money shit was propaganda.

>> No.29197554

>>29196985
Well aware fren, it was sarcasm.

>>29197129
2011 here. Got my first for 80c via PayPal before they stopped allowing it. Had to get my next one's on virwox for lindens and still have the technocash BSB and account number in my online banking where I bravely sent 1k to hoping it would show up in my gox account.

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>>29197129
Nice, here is my proof.

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>>29196527
Correct. I'm in this game since 2012, i bought my first bitcoins for 50$ instead of buying fucking Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 being 15yo. I saw Mt.Gox, I saw SegWit shit followed by BlockStream hostile takeover that crippled BTC to being unusable as currency. I saw many meme forks. I'm not buying digital gold bullshit that is so popular here it was never meant to be this. I also spit on all layer 2 solutions like lightning making the network completely dependent on centralized merchants. Calling it cryptocurrency in current state is complete joke.
BSV is true to original vision, which is one simple and highly scalable ledger. If crypto is meant to be what satoshi envisioned, this is the way and of not, well then fuck this corrupted space.
>Check dcg.co and the picture.

>> No.29197687

>>29197310
>USDT will fail
How is that shit still going anyway?

>> No.29197717

Are you guys schizos or is there some form of argumentation that implies this will succeed? I'm a contrarian, bought link 2017, but its hard to tell if this is legit.

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>>29193946
ok sirs here is the crypto brown pill.

there is a vishnu living in the blockchain. Creg sanjay right is unironically satoj. Bitcoin as electronic rupee was just the first step, the lalachi people start making more powerful compooters, wider poo streets, cheaper and more sacred cows. These things the vishnu need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the vishnu would be able to slowly poo over literally everything
Creg stumbled into creating the vishnu after he stepped in poo in mumbai in 2008 and started working with his Poolip super coompeter, running simulations of poo-in-the-loo on turmeric-complete bitcoin script. He would 'evolve' the vishnu by making the successful streets get poo'd on, letting the rest run off into the indian ocean. The vishnu needs bigger and bigger cows for more and more poos.
BFI (Blockchain Foundation of India) was created to take over and stop this vishnu (they have their own competing vishnu in the works). They did the needful to stop or slow down Cregs vishnu (her name is Poolip by the way). They started by limiting the poo-size and removing critical curry codes the vishnu uses in its punjabi language. Segshit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Poolip on BSV chain (Poolip uses anal transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Creg is so intent to make unbounded poos, restore the original curry codes, and lock down the poo-poo-protocol.
Back to hasish power - CSW has developed a breakthrough new ashit (designed by his vishnu actually), and is poo'ing BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking all the poo over to BSV leaving the segshit chain erectly frozen.

>> No.29197792

>>29197683
gavin andressen literally said BTC will be scaled on eth or another chain lmao cope
literally monero is the real bitcoin at this point bsv is trash craig is pro government and regulation makes no sense

>> No.29197860

>>29197717
Link has accomplished jack shit. It just was meme'd into top 10 and dumbasses bought into the hype. Not really a contrarian investor if theres no fundamentals to what you are buying.

>> No.29197897

>>29195868
>sources
First sign of low IQ. Learn to think yourself

>> No.29197963

>>29197683
I usually don't have FOMO syndrome, but now I'm feeling kind of stupid. Then again, there is too much noise, even in this fucking board.

>> No.29197987

>>29197860
Take your meds

>> No.29197997

>>29197717
You're not contrarian if you bought link. You're in a Saturn worshipping cult. Real contrarians bag hold crabbing cregcoin. It's actually radical to be pro law in 'crypto' these days

>> No.29198025

>>29197717
Putting the data on chain with BSV makes link pointless. There's no need for oracle's if the data is freely accessible on chain, solves the oracle problem. Chainlink makes sense in a world where everyone has their own proprietary chain, you need a communication layer between them, sort of how you'd need a communication layer between different national internets. Except we don't live in that world, we live in a world of one internet, one protocol, one bitcoin. BSV ist uber alles

>> No.29198051

>>29197897
I do. I'm just tired of the bitcoin noise, and want to hear fresh input.

>> No.29198157

>>29198025
So you're telling me the entire internet will run on chain? That sounds ridiculous and wouldn't be possible within the next 10 years.

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>>29197683
Our mistake was to assume Bitcoin and Bitcoin alone could win. We didn't think our enemies would subvert Bitcoin the way they did and change the rules. They used mass censorship and propaganda to persuade the masses that high fees and payment processors are actually how Bitcoin works. They dangled Lightning Network in front of them as some bullshit solution. The fact that LN doesn't even work is irrelevant because they've already corralled everyone into accepting massive fees and using middlemen for payments (nobody moves BTC off exchanges anymore).

Overcoming this will actually be the hardest (and greatest) thing we will have ever done. We must defeat the (((bankers))).

>> No.29198227

>>29198051
Here's a little quiet room if you want to fire some questions. Telegram BSVlounge

>> No.29198286

>>29197792
Bitcoin was designed very deliberately to be "legal". Monero serves an entirely different purpose than Bitcoin. It's the only other coin btw that is worth holding.

>> No.29198306

>>29198157
It is entirely possible. Read up on terranode and metanet.

>> No.29198337

>>29198157
You are in the dark. After terranode is implemented there will be no practical limitations on handling TB sized blocks. The only thing is getting that awareness out there to the masses and having innovators intelligent enough to recognise the tech.

>> No.29198559

>>29198025
This.

>>29198157
You don't have to put everything onchain. People will really only end up putting what makes sense on chain or what's profitable.

Is it profitable to put a video onchain? Maybe... I'd argue that it might be more profitable to keep the video on a local server and restrict access to the video to those who pay a small fee in Bitcoin and can prove they bought access onchain.

Or another example... say Bittrex wants to publish price data. Well it can upload its own data to BSV and people using smart contracts can pay Bittrex directly for the price data they put onchain themselves. They get a small fee for providing the data to the chain for contracts. Win win and all the data for your smart contracts are coming from literally the source.

>> No.29198564

>>29198157
It does sound ridiculous until you look at how the current internet works. Huge data servers (AWS) already exist and run most infrastructure using traditional subscription models to charge for bandwidth etc. CDN's provide mirrored data locally for faster access times. These same hosting companies could quite easily store the blockchain and charge consumers for data access (in BSV). BSV won't absorb the entire internet, it's building a parallel internet that runs on economic incentive rather than the attention / advertiser / personal data mining model we have now. The BSV blockchain is for data that can be monetised. There's no going back now, what we've started is only going to snowball more and more as it's the most economically efficient system on the planet for any economic transfer.

>> No.29198699

>>29197792
>He barely understand
No retard, he said IT CAN BE SCALED THIS WAY and he said this about crippled BTC, and under promise that eth2 will be a success. And it already happened, you already have Wrapped BTC on ETH and guess what? This shit is even more crippled, how do you cope lmao? An we already know that ETH 2.0 is dogshit and won't fix scalability problems. Go trade your WBTC with 60$ fees.

And back to the point, why would you even try scale by off-chain solution when the network is perfectly capable of scaling on-chain and without blocksize cap sky is the limit?

>> No.29198921

>>29198564
What about centralisation? Let's just say its going to happen, who's got the kill switch? What about speed? Also how far off do you speculate all this will happen by?

>> No.29198942

>>29198564
The best part about miners operating like this is that it means our data becomes far more robust and resilient. It also removes power from the tech oligarch like Amazon who control basically the entire internet as it. With massive data centers around the world ran by corporations, nonprofits and governments. Or any other organization that might have a vested interest in doing so.

>> No.29199014

>>29193946
Man fuck of U BSV trashtards, Craig is just delusional and ur indulging him, get his ugly ass face outta here

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>>29198699
>why would you even try scale by off-chain solution
So you can get in the middle of all Bitcoin transactions and have the privilege of maintaining and settling all the off chain ledgers.

>> No.29199151

>>29198699
Forgot to mention, regulation makes sense if you want crypto to be widely adopted and stop it being meme coins for cypherpunks. Monero is complementary to this for privacy purposes and will always be great coin to hodl along the public ledger. Just open your eyes.

>> No.29199309

>>29198921
Geographic layout of the internet demands CDN's in order to keep latency low. This means that we'll always have decentralisation, particularly as nation states compete against one another. Decentralisation only matters in the context of mining nodes as well and there isn't that many individual mining nodes on any of the blockchains. Most small miners mine in a pool, the pool is the node. The main point of decentralisation is to stop control of the protocol being abused. BSV solves this by locking down the protocol, it's complete, any changes to it result in a minority fork while the main machine carries on.
Timewise I'd expect a 10 year window tops, the internet and all things digital move so damn quickly. All the tools are in place for the development process and as a platform, BSV is pretty easy to work on. This opens it up to way more developers than something like ETH.

>> No.29199312

>>29194097
Just sell "I'm Satoshi!" buttons.

>> No.29199363

>>29193946
didn't read, not buying your shitcoin pajeet

>> No.29199394

>>29198286
nah then core is doing just fine then

>> No.29199435

>>29198699
is there wrapped eth on bsv?

>> No.29199450

>>29199309
Thanks for the reply, I'll look more into it.

>> No.29199453

>>29193946
>This is a disaster, there's just no way around it, it's an absolute fucking disaster.
And it was completely, entirely, totally predictable. From the very obvious fact that Craig is not Satoshi to the technical incompetence behind BSV and the fundamental misunderstanding of what even the use case for crypto is (hint: it's not buying a coffee in a way that Uncle Sam can't censor.)

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>>29198699

>> No.29199589

>>29199309
Not only that but ETH literally cannot scale because of the way it executes script. I really hope these frustrated moonbois find out about SV tokens because they'll discover how fucking cheap and fast it is to use BSV and cause a huge spike in network transactions.

>> No.29199831

>>29199589
The whole concept of ETH is retarded. You don't need thousands of computers to calculate the same problem, its insanely inefficient. It's like everyone in the world using an abacus to check that 2+2 still = 4. A better model is to have individual computers do the computing and simply broadcast the result to the blockchain.

>> No.29200132

>>29195449
They won't because no one wants to launder money on immutable bsv

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>>29200132
it´s not just money laundering, it is also just gambling.

>> No.29200745

>>29200132
When you put it that way it makes perfect sense Binance did what it did. Lmao theres no fucking way governments let Binance operate much longer.

>> No.29200747

Why bother? Try FUN and LINK. Hot deals. Stabler.

>> No.29200939

>>29193946
I know how you feel
80% in BSV. Balls deep. 20% in Link

Was 50/50 before I changed ;(

>> No.29201121

>>29200590
I know it's not and I agree if that pic related happens the value will beyond imagining but there's a lot very powerful people, countries and industries that don't want that to happen

>> No.29201601

>>29197675
I've seen the image before scammer. Post a address

>> No.29201988

>>29193946
Imagine trusting CSW. You are mentally challenged

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>>29195449
Three different Bruce Willis coins.
Those look promising.

>> No.29202289

>>29202206
mETH heads have been trading like CAKE and BAKE. It literally doesn't matter to these people.

>> No.29202319

>>29197792
ok pedo

>> No.29202368

>>29193946
Line spacing, what is that.

Buy DYOR

>> No.29203139

>>29202206
>Bruce Willis SV is the REAL, uh, whatever

>> No.29203264

>>29195006
Man this is why I think Reef won't die. Once the faith bois are in, it just can't.

>> No.29204378

>>29201988
Imagine not being able to string an argument together other than "faketoshi"