Why UBI is a bad idea: What do prime-age ‘NILF’ men do all day?

[Anonymous No.28702518]

Economists and other social scientists often use “leisure” and “free time” interchangeably, but this is a mistake. The “leisure” activities that NILFs (not in labor force) and NEETs indulge in are generally not the sort of higher pursuits that, for example, Josef Pieper had in mind in his classic Leisure: The Basis of Culture. The overwhelming majority of this “leisure” is screen time: television, internet, DVDs, and all the rest. NEET men reported an average of over five hours a day in front of screens—nearly 1,900 hours a year, almost equivalent to the time commitment of a full-time job. ATUS does not ask specifically about video games; if it did, even more NEET screen time commitment would almost certainly be recorded.

To go by the time-use surveys, prime-age men without work who are not looking for jobs and not engaged in training spend almost three times as many hours in front of screens as working women and well over twice as many as working men.3 Strikingly, they also report over 300 hours more screen time per year than their unemployed counterparts—men likewise jobless but who want to get back to work. And the reality is even more disturbing than these time-use numbers can convey on their own. According to a 2017 study by Alan Krueger, almost half of NILF men reported taking some form of pain medication every day. The fraction for NEET men would likely be higher still. The rhythms of life for a great many of the prime-age men in America currently disengaged with the world of work is defined not simply by days and nights sitting in front of screens—but sitting in front of screens while numbed or stoned.

[Anonymous No.28702658]

>>28702518
Didnt read, would smash

[Anonymous No.28702761]

>>28702518
All those unwilling to work or participate in society should get recycled into protein for those willing to work.

[Anonymous No.28702781]

>>28702518
UBI is a bad idea because a negative income tax does everything UBI does but more efficiently

[Anonymous No.28702914]

stop posting cute asian men on my board you faggot

[Anonymous No.28702935]

>>28702761
i already do that by pumping my protein-rich semen into your mom's mouth every single night anon

[Anonymous No.28702995]

I'm a NILF. A neet I'd like to fuck

[Anonymous No.28703145]

>>28702518
How much “screen time” a day do working women have if we count smartphones and non-work related apps?

[Anonymous No.28703267]

>>28702518
Fuck Josef Pieper with a name like that you almost don't even need to look him up to know he had communist sympathies.

Most people not in the labor force are out on disability because they got fired in 2008 and needed to get income quick, so they got pain diagnoses, opiate scripts, and now sit stoned out of their mind in front of the TV.

UBI is a bad idea but it's also inevitable. It's the only way money printing can continue to stimulate the real economy given that all other forms of money printing now go straight into inflating the mother of all asset bubbles. Central planners need to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.28703292]

>>28702518
nigger i'd like to fuck?

[Anonymous No.28703451]

>>28702781
>negative income tax
so, the more you earn the more money you get from the state? the poor pays the rich extra salaries? very based

[Anonymous No.28703881]

>>28702518
but yeah the thing is, if someone REALLY wants to do fuck all, they can already do it. maybe they need to put in a tiny bit amount of work on some occasions, or maybe they need to fake some autism/aspergers/mild schizophrenia, but the point is it's very much possible to survive without a job for someone who is really determined to break out of the cycle. UBI would downright encourage it and make people for whom jobs are (unknowingly) very helpful and a necessity in their life to loathe, be "forced" to sit at home instead and contemplate over things they aren't really meant to.

[Anonymous No.28704750]

>>28702518
>but sitting in front of screens while numbed or stoned
Fucking BASED I say. We are getting fucking rich staring at our screen, we have each other for social interaction, and we have the best porn in the history of mankind to fulfil our sexual needs. Life is good.

[Anonymous No.28705173]

>>28704750
>and we have the best porn in the history of mankind to fulfil our sexual needs

[Anonymous No.28705832]

It starts with N & S

[Anonymous No.28706299]

NILF: Neet I'd Like to Fuck

[Anonymous No.28706487]

>>28702914
You should see what he looks like with no makeup.

[Anonymous No.28707042]

>>28702518
How much screen time do office workers have? My gf works remotely and spends at least 8 hours a day on her PC and 2 on her phone.

[Anonymous No.28707531]

i would rather die than work

[Anonymous No.28707982]

>>28707531
idk anon im going kind of crazy being stiuck inside the house with little money

[Anonymous No.28708360]

>>28702518
Humans are status seeking creatures (facebook, instagram, twitter, etc.) and UBI is the fastest path to creating an American caste system (second tier citizens).
UBI is also the fastest and most direct path to outright socialism. A slippery slope that never ends.

[Anonymous No.28708740]

were already in UBI (light) right now with the never ending unemployment.

[Anonymous No.28708857]

>>28708740
We have had UBI since the early 1960s.
It's called welfare.

[Anonymous No.28708895]

>>28708857
you gotta be black to collect that though.

[Anonymous No.28709056]

>>28702518
So fuck if people want to sit on their ass and do nothing.
Sooner or later they’d get bored and find something they wanted to do, then they’d ultimately be happier. Or they’d figure out they can’t live on 1k a month and go find a comfy little job somewhere and not have to work anywhere near as much.

[Anonymous No.28709096]

>>28708895
Hmmm... school failed you.
There are more whites receiving welfare in the USA.
UBI instantly creates an American caste system.

[Anonymous No.28709118]

>>28709056
this is what id do. id just work like 2 days a week or something.

[Anonymous No.28709221]

>>28707982
i work one day a week and its comfy desu. i have 6 days to "recover" from my shift, i get to talk with coworkers, staying fit. i can imagine doing this even with a 7 fig folio
if i live modest i can basically pay my bills w o cashing any of my crypto
i will probably never work full time as a employee NEVER

[Anonymous No.28709490]

>>28709096
>says school failed others
>clearly does not comprehend proportionality
is being this retarded painful or pleasant?

[Anonymous No.28709597]

Men who are unemployed spend all day unproductively because the stream of income they may receive is hardly enough to get by, still not enough to motivate self actualization. Whereas males who are given a stable flow of income are more likely to volunteer and interact in their communities as mental health improves. Whereas we see a reduction of a single standard deviation of IQ among large amounts of the overworked population due to the amount of cognitive resources that are spent on thinking about stressful financial decisions. Whereas the average worker, scarcely scraping by, is cleaning diarrhea off of the floor at Walmart or folding T shirts, and not putting their self on a pathway to self improvement.

There will not be enough jobs and there will either be not enough, or too many skilled workers to fill the jobs that do exist = Elite overproduction. As robotics reduces 30% of the labor force over the next 3-5 years, this will lead to worse problems than people watching Netflix all day.

You could pay people to interact with their communities in a positive way, but this would be impossible to monitor without something invasive like China's social credit system.

[Anonymous No.28709637]

>>28709490
Read more before responding, anon. Read more.
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.28709717]

>>28709597
that's a lot of whereas

[Anonymous No.28709825]

>>28708857
Welfare isn't universal and is restricted to certain government programs. It isn't UBI in any sense.

[Anonymous No.28709852]

>>28702761
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGIIIIIIIIIIIIIE!
It's getting dark, wagie! Best not drink anymore coffee today, you don't want to get no sleep again tonight and be tired for work tomorrow, do you? What would Mr Shekelstein say?
LOL

[Anonymous No.28709874]

>>28709597
>Men who are unemployed spend all day unproductively because the stream of income they may receive is hardly enough to get by

imagine being so cucked in your mind that your whole purpose revolves around "being productive" in the eyes of a rotten, despicable society

[Anonymous No.28710059]

>>28709717
Wherefrom, whereas should indicate thenceforth becoming, henceforth whereas, heretofore, there should be a contrasting circumstance, thereafter we preface with whereinish in which.

>>28709874
Being productive is when you piss in the coleslaw bucket at KFC and clean the fecal matter from the hoverounds at the grocery store.

[Anonymous No.28710120]

>>28702935
Based

[Anonymous No.28710131]

>>28709637
He’s right though faggot

[Anonymous No.28710201]

unironically true
i'm pretty much a neet and i'm just wasting my days away

[Anonymous No.28710264]

>>28709637
You think he can read?

[Anonymous No.28710458]

>>28702995
based

[Anonymous No.28711001]

>>28709637
>doubles down on his mistake
>>28710264
please migrate back to plebbit or twitter, nigger

[Anonymous No.28711245]

>>28709852
this guy probably works at mcdonalds or some shit.

[Anonymous No.28711599]

Do you really think that the leisure we do when waging is the same leisure we'd do with UBI?
Not all leisure is equal anon, I can't believe you're too retarded to understand this.

Look, is your free time for celebrating life or for coping with it? Get with the program

[Anonymous No.28711692]

>>28702518
>NEETS spend 5 horus a day in front of screens

meanwhile wagies spend 14 hours a day in front of screens

[Anonymous No.28711824]

there is literally no reason for a white man to contribute or pay taxes in 2021