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>> No.28677875
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>> No.28677885

What's the name of the bubble going to be?

>> No.28677908

>>28677885
The media will 100% call it the Trump bubble.

>> No.28677937

>>28677885
Red February

>> No.28677939

>>28677885
the corona crash

>> No.28677950

>>28677908
>>28677885
Isn't it already called the tech bubble?

>> No.28677955

If China wants to destroy the US economy, all they have to do is stop shipping semiconductor components to us and prevent war by saying the lack of shipments is a result of a shortage.

>> No.28678020

>>28677885
It is still going to be the everything bubble. There is not a single asset right now that isn't wildly divorced from all technical or fundamental indicators. Maybe commodities? Or maybe they are priced accurately and its everything else that is a euphoric bubble.

>> No.28678052

>>28677806
I actually saw a beautiful dog like that bounding through the snow on my walk today. It made me happy.

>> No.28678055

>>28677955
You mean silicone? That kind of semiconductor? Or are you talking about something else?

>> No.28678061

>>28677885
nigger

>> No.28678084

The Great Regression

>> No.28678097

>>28677955
you mean taiwan? china can't compete with US on semiconductor production, and can't make cell phones without Semis from taiwan. Do you read the news?

>> No.28678119
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Posted about this the other day. Any thoughts? Drop is due to PO. Seems like a good opportunity to me

>> No.28678133

>>28678020
Except my beautiful still undervalued GTE

>> No.28678154
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The COVID-21 Bubble

>> No.28678158

>>28678055
wafers (crystalline silicone)

>> No.28678162
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Buy DGTW open on Tuesday and sell by Thursday no?

>> No.28678178

why doesnt china owe us trillions of dollars for causing corona and ruining our economy?

>> No.28678179

>>28678097
He is being sarcastic as this is exactly what the US is doing to China

>> No.28678206

>>28678097
China is about to go to war with Taiwan. Once they've taken over Taiwan, they will control the electronics manufacturing industry.

>> No.28678215

>>28678162
Never trust pennies

>> No.28678234
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>>28678178
>ruining our economy
But the stock market's doing grea-
Oh you meant the poorfag economy...

>> No.28678248

>>28678178
because our country is blaming Trump for corona.

>> No.28678249
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>>28678052
Who’s a good boy

>> No.28678260

>>28678178
Why doesn't the rest of the world adopt an efficient state capitalist authoritarian system? Covid would have been eradicated by now

>> No.28678262

>>28678097
>>28678179
Taiwan is code for China since the early 2000's, it's true that China can use Tawian to fuck us up with semi conductors

>>28678206
not going to war, just making their control more obvious

>> No.28678282

NIO calls on Tuesday. Good idea?

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retail is way too bearish kek

>> No.28678297
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>>28677885
the big crab. it wont crash. markets will actually crab for 5 years

>> No.28678305

>>28678206
This is a legitimate risk if US puts PRC supply chains in Taiwan

>> No.28678317
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>>28677885
boobal

>> No.28678322

>>28678178
It was great for the stock market though. To the moon :rocket: :diamond: :hands:

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>>28678317

>> No.28678369

>>28678206
I don't think you know many taiwanese people.. They're pretty adamant that china will never touch them. Also, Taiwan is a strategic US asset. Japan and Korea would also never let it happen.

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Found another CRBP white pill. Waiting makes me pretty anxious though.

>> No.28678389

>>28678178
They do, which will become apparent when Biden n co decide to stop playing nice and demonstrate why China isn't even able to project power over its immediate neighbors. Ching-chongs have too many human rights and living conditions and aren't cheap enough any more.

The war is coming, and I cannot wait

>> No.28678403

>>28678369
True. Japan hates China. I mean really really hates them

>> No.28678404
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>Yuen Yofrenza's dead!

Who WAS Yuen? Why did the bank manager think the criminals would stop if they knew Yuen was dead?

>> No.28678430

>>28677885
SPAC bubble

>> No.28678440
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It's hilarious how much AMC has fucked up my portfolio. That was the stupidest decision I ever made but at least I learned a lesson from it.

>> No.28678461

>>28678403
lol wrong thread, we leave those tho

>> No.28678473

>>28678369
A friend of a friend who has friends at the Pentagon told me military brass considers invasion of Taiwan realistic possibility. I personally don't since it seems like mutually assured destruction

>> No.28678494

>>28678369
Something fishy is going on. Europe US ties are weakening and Europe China ties are strengthening. Wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the world is okay with the US being excluded from the semi market through tariffs or something.

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>>28678473
>>28678389
>>28678369
N-no, my semis... Half of SOXL products are made in Taiwan!

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>>28677885
Fuck off you're not getting my TQQQ. You crash this shit as hard as you want, I'm buying more.
It goes to $50 I'm getting a job and buying more.
It goes to $5 I'm taking out margin and buying more.
It reverse splits and goes to $5 again bitch I'm getting a HELOC and buying more.
Do you understand me you motherfucker? I'm buying more and in 30 years I will laugh at you from the top of a skyscraper shaped like my tired, unerect penis after a long day of watching line go up, because skyscrapers that point straight up are for poorfags.

>> No.28678561

>>28678494
The BRICs have always wanted to get rid of the USD as global currency reserve. It is only recently that Africa and Europe have gotten sick of importing US inflation. It basically undermines the "goals" of the WMF.

>> No.28678565

>>28678494
China's ties strengthen only when the money flows. They have no "friends" if they stop paying, and they cannot pay without the USA. They are dependent and desperately trying to hide it.

>> No.28678583

>>28678430

is CCIV GUNNA BE OK?

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>>28678556
based and tqqq pilled

>> No.28678588

>>28678389
Biden will be much tougher on China in much more painful ways than Trump was. Policy will basically be what folks in Foreign Affairs have been calling for the past three years. I don't think this is a good idea. But libs love trying to stay in power under the guise of human rights protections.

>> No.28678605

I bet you guys five grand that the price of SOXL craters in early March. Just too much bad news coming out.

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>>28678556

>> No.28678661

>>28678565
China doesn't pay anyone. They are the universal creditor.

>> No.28678664
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https://www.taiwansemi.com/en/contact/global-locations

do people that invest in this stuff do the research. check the locations, and you can do this with UMC too.

Taiwan Semiconductor (H.K.) Co., Ltd.

5F, Meeco Industrial Building
53 – 55, Au Pui Wan Street
Fo Tan, Shatin, New Territories
Hong Kong
China

Taiwan Semiconductor Co., Ltd. -Suzhou

Room 2808
No.33, Xing Gui street
Suzhou Industrial Park
Suzhou
215011
China

Taiwan Semiconductor Co., Ltd. -Shanghai

Room 2909 29F Enterprise Square
No.228 MeiYuan Rd.
Jingan Area
Shanghai
200070
China

Then you have other cities in China too, China can shut these down and fuck them overnight. The shortage is in production of Semi conductors, so they need foundries to do that. The foundries take a long time to build, so they are essential. If China denies access to these the brainpower won't matter because they just won't have the materials they need. I haven't gone far enough to find out where most of the foundries are located, because I'm not investing in TSM (UMC is cheaper). The thing is barely any of these foundries are in the USA. , which means we don't have as much pull with them. We have the designers and the brains, but not the production facilities. At the end of the day it was a mistake to underestimate chinese or even asian solidarity. it's slowly coming to a head.

>>28678473
Kissinger wrote that they the Chinese were bombing Taiwano n a regular basis but they never killed anyone. This was strange until they noted the dates on the calendar and found that China was only bombing Taiwan on even number dates (something like that, i can't remember) anyway, it was apparent they were giving a sort of heads up to the Taiwan army in an unspoken way.

>> No.28678678

>>28678494
Ofc true with the BRICs but I'm pretty convinced the yuros just had their panties in a bunch because of Trump. They'll get on board with whatever Biden and Samantha power and Blinken say

>> No.28678684

>>28678565
They won't need the USA anymore if they start trade with Europe.

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>>28678605
Anon, get over it. SOXS lost! After the founder split the family company, SOXL has steadily been eating their lunch.

>> No.28678713

>>28678020

Even among commodities, industrials don't always do well in stagflation, which we're likely headed into years of.

The only "safe" sectors I see right now are PMs, and maybe uranium. I'm skeptical even of green infrastructure spending actually happening before the Dollar eats shit and the dems are trapped just trying to stem the bleeding while keeping entitlements afloat so they can cling to power. It's gonna be fun watching them scramble when they realize the party's over.

>> No.28678720

>>28678461
Nah definitely the right thread. SPACs are the exact same as "IPO craze" being brought up every time news talks about 17 crypto run

>> No.28678735

>>28678473
There is a well established plan put out by china about the invasion of taiwan, true. But the local powers in the region ( japan, korea, india ) wouldn't let china do it. US has been flooding taiwan with billions dollars in weapons for years, and has US navy floating nearby. Taiwan is too important geopolitically, and the taiwanese have been preparing for a hostile china for decades. I live on the border of Alberta and BC, and work in a hotel, Taiwanese are EVERYWHERE(on work visas, etc ). i speak(amongst other things) to a lot of them regarding this subject. They truly don't believe china won't attack them.

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>>28678561
Who do you think controls the WMF?
>>28678588
I'm essentially a neo-imperialist and this situation is becoming better and better for me. The populace is incredibly divided with civil unrest increasing sharply. Think about it: what is the one thing that will unite all Americans behind the administration? War, of course, but only against a hated boogeyman such as Saddam or Bin Laden... or China.

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>>28678639
make retail retards sell me cheapies please please please

>> No.28678761

>>28678588

Dude, I highly doubt Biden will go after China at all. The establishment loves sucking Chinese cock

>> No.28678779

>>28678664
US is prepared to have supply chains moved from PRC to Taiwan if necessary. This was in FT several months ago

>> No.28678801
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Where my futures traders at? Y'all know we still on Sunday evening at 6:00 right? Futures opens at 6pm eastern then close Monday at 1p then reopen again at 6pm Monday. Virgin stock buyers BTFO as usual by Chad futures enjoyers

>> No.28678837

Any of you boys follow Peter Zeihan? Do you agree? i've been trying to eek out an investment thesis based on his work. Bullish USA, agriculture and natural gas

>> No.28678860

>>28678440
AMC bagholder here as well. It is the lesson that counts Anon.

>> No.28678872

>>28678741
China has nukes. Also the Demonrats hate Russia. It's the Republicunts who hate China.

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>>28678389
>>28678389
you are both going to learn the hard way how wrong you are

I'm just waiting for NIO to be sold in the USA, at least you are still getting that 2k.......er.......I mean 13........er.......i mean what was it again?

>>28678779
that was before they even announced the semi conductor shortage. We can see what happens but times have changed and a lot of promises are going to be broken.

>> No.28678879

>>28678779
SEA and India too. The Chinese are dependent on us, not the other way around. And before Chinanon shills about rare earth metals or something, China holds only a minority of world reserves - most of them are in US and allied nations
>>28678735
Taiwanese have also threatened to do crazy shit like blow up Three Gorges.

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>>28677806
I wish we didn't have to rehome our dog for medical reasons. :(

>> No.28678904

>>28678556
>I will laugh at you from the top of a skyscraper shaped like my tired, unerect penis after a long day of watching line go up, because skyscrapers that point straight up are for poorfags
based triple leveraged Chad

>> No.28678965

>>28678735
Yes the idea is that if and when US strangles Chinese access to Western finance and supply chains China has no choice to invade. Could just be US arrogance. Chinese backup plan is their own billion plus consumers (and africa er al) but they need semiconductors to operate and they don't have those without our permission

>> No.28678970

Whats with the crash larp in this thread?

>> No.28678974

>>28678735
>>28678879
>But the local powers in the region ( japan, korea, india )

At what point are you going to realize they ddin't do shit about Tibet, or HK, and they won't do shit about Taiwan. China doesn't do military invasions either, they just change the way maps are labeled and slowly take over the economy and culture of an area. It's how they have always done it.

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>>28678742
he has awoken, your time is over old man

>> No.28678992

>>28678879
>Taiwanese have also threatened to do crazy shit like blow up Three Gorges.
haha, i can't take that one seriously. Modi from India maybe. He's a based boy.

>> No.28679004

>>28678761
American companies love Chinese yen. You won't find anyone in DC with too much sympathy for China

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>> No.28679015

>>28678874
>expecting soulless, loyalty-free elites to continue playing nice with China after they've sucked all the power possible out of them
They have control. Time to create a client state and make the Boxer Rebellion look like a fucking joke
>>28678974
>China doesn't do military invasions either
And why do you think that is? It's because they are powerless and desperately hiding it.

>> No.28679017

>>28678872
Dems hate Russia cause they helped leak Hilary's emails. China is the real threat. Trump kept China at bay with sporadic tariffs. Biden won't create any manufacturing jobs. He was supposed to create manufacturing jobs in the green energy sector, but he has no idea what to do since everything can be made in China cheaper.

>> No.28679053

>>28678970
Bullish signal

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>>28678985
hurry up and do it you faggot

>> No.28679114

>>28679004
Diane Feinstein literally had a Chinese spy working for her for decades.

>> No.28679166

>>28679114
And Eric Swalwell slept with a super obvious Chinese spy.

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>>28679015
>And why do you think that is?
because it's what they have done throughout history, and tibet and hk are actually fairly recent. hk was a deal with the uk but those protests were about extradition. they just told the uk to fuck off with the terms of the handover and took what they wanted. using taiwan as a proxy to grab up our semi conductor foundries was a good play too, and this started in the early 2000's when they elected a pro china president bc the bush hate and iraq doubt was in full swing. Taiwan went to china around 2003, and it was clear when they did it. they are having the same problems HK did in the late 90s with textbooks.

As far as what China is willing to sacrifice, they would shut their whole fucking country down for 10 generations or more to become the ruling power. Doubt me all you want, in time you are going to see. This pandemic has given them free reign over asia, they are buying up real estate like you wouldn't believe, and that includes Australia.

>> No.28679188

>>28678713
The "classical" assets for stagflation are energy, utilities, gold, and real estate. Maybe you are onto something there.
>>28678741
>Who do you think controls the WMF?
What really matters here is that the US is running out of soft leverage. This was one of the reasons the republican party was so hawkish starting in the 80s.

>> No.28679208

>>28677806
I dont hate women.

>> No.28679243

>>28678801
Sneak peak
> -----------------------------------------|/\_||_|/\_||_|/\_||_
> SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUE PM, MARKET OPEN

>> No.28679244

holy shit crypto really is a scam reeeeeeeeeee why didnt i stick to stocks

>> No.28679255

>>28679208
PFFFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

>> No.28679325

>>28679114
>>28679166
I don't get your point

>> No.28679407

>>28679325
the democratic party sold out and is owned by China.
China hates Trump
Democrats hate Trump
Coincidence?

>> No.28679451

Anyone holding BETZ or MSOS? I set up a weekly by for them.

>> No.28679497
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>>28679187
It would be such a shame if something were to happen that nullifies debts and foreign holdings. Such as, say, a lil war and installation of American puppet government.

The Chinese do these things because they know they can't get away with anything real. The USA does whatever it wants worldwide and the only power that realistically stops it is Russia. We replace their Ukrainian puppet with our own? They annex some of its territory and destabilize the fuck out of the rest. Meanwhile China's response to growing US involvement in SEA is to run away the moment we send a fleet into the South China Sea. They are the very definition of a paper tiger - attempting to strike fear in ways that you will see, and having no strength whatsoever to back it up.

>muh nukes
as if lol

>> No.28679547

>>28679451
>BETZ
An ETF without leverage is unsavory. What's the point

>> No.28679553

>>28678890
The dog's medical conditions or yours? Just get pet insurance next time. Not insuring your pet is retarded with how high vet costs are out of pocket combined with the fact that dogs are stupid and will inevitably need medical care at some point. I pay $35 a month and am covered for 10K yearly of accidents, illnesses, poisonings, cancer, fleas, or any other condition.

>> No.28679586

>>28679407
Fox news (or worse) has rotted your brain. Liberal press (actual liberal press that matters, not cable news nonsense) has been anti-china ever since Xi got aggressive. That Dems were being spied on is more reason for them to be wary of China. Undoubtedly the US has spies in the politburo but this doesn't make the politburo pro-US

>> No.28679599

>>28679553
Ours, unfortunately. Immediate family member developed medical issues with the dog that couldn't really be reversed.

>> No.28679638

>>28679599
...allergies?

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>>28679638
Yeah, but related to medication.

>> No.28679681

>>28678872

They hate Russia because they're rabid Zionists and Russia+Iran are constantly in proxy wars with Israel.

Well, that, and the old Jewish grudge they've held ever since Stalin's purges of his (((useful idiots))). They're salty to this day about getting cucked out of their own revolution.

Funny that they learned nothing and made the same mistake in China not long after. Lots of them STILL think they've got a leash on that particular golem... those 115 IQ geniuses. Although, there are some rumblings that corona has some of them realizing what a vulnerable position they're in after living so high on the Dollar system and hollowing out US manufacturing for fun and profit.

>> No.28679709

>>28679451
Weird that MSOS isn't just the big memes. Good find.

>> No.28679790

>>28677806
What's the play on semiconductor companies boys, are they going to pump or drop this week?

>> No.28679791
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INVEST IN STARLINK IPO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1a2K9ZgNA

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>>28679497
It won't be a war with China dude. The whole bash china shit is just a ploy. Politicians know they would get fucked up if they just straight up said they don't give a fuck about taiwan and they just want the Chinese money, but that is actually how they feel.

The Semi Conductors are just a start. If we were really going after China you wouldn't be able to shove your american money into 'chinese government backed companies, just think about that. Biden has already scaled back on a lot of the restrictions and if you pay attention to black berry it looks like they are giving huawei a backdoor into the US market. Try to find a drone manufacturer that isn't based in China. That's going to be more critical than firearms in the future.

>> No.28679843

>>28679791
I'd like to, but it's going to be a fucking overpriced Reddit fueled nightmare.

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>>28679586

>> No.28679878

>>28679670
That's even more confusing. Although I guess when my sibling was doing chemo the dog had to be kept from licking him because your skin sweats toxic chemicals.

>> No.28679887

>>28679791
I cant wait for the first day of starlink being publicly traded. Its gonna be fucking chaotic

>> No.28679937

How I trade snow?

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>>28679937
Invest in fossil fuels to short snow and other frozen water products such as ice. Invest in clean energy to make calls on snow and other frozen water products.

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I want the markets open NOW! I need my fix

>> No.28680128

>>28679790
I went with UMC, ACEV, THBR, and INTC on Friday. All cheaper plays. I think people are going to buy the news, not sure what comes after that though so I'm hoping I can take some profit on monday.

>> No.28680135

>>28680053
get a lil share of crypto like $10 to make your ticker keep ticking all weekend. It's the suboxone of stocks.

>> No.28680232

>>28679878
Yeah, I'm trying to not get into specifics, apologies. It was just unfortunate all around. Hope your sibling's doing better.

>> No.28680239

I recently came into some money and I want to invest all of it.
It's enough that I could realistically be a millionaire inside of a few years but not enough to even contemplate taking it easy.
However, the thought of investing it and losing any of it scares the absolute shit out of me. Enough to the point where I literally lay awake at night stressing, unable to sleep with the paranoia of losing it.
This is pretty much my potential "get out of jail free card" and I am terrified.
What would you guys do? I imagine some of you would be less of a bitch than me, but with all the talk I've heard of the market collapsing again it only adds to my paranoia

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>>28680239
crashes are buying opportunities.

>> No.28680331

>>28680239
well I hedge with shares of UVXY and longs, it's been really cheap lately cus of BRRR but it did me well to keep me afloat in the covid dump.

>> No.28680345

>>28680128
Thanks anon, take a look at AMAT, ON, and UMC as well. I'm thinking the price should spike this week and steadily rise over the next few months with the ongoing shortage.

>> No.28680365

>>28679843
>>28679887
JUST BUY IT.

>> No.28680367

>>28680239
Just hold some cash and dont invest all of it. Invest in companies that you think will bounce back quickly after a crash.

>> No.28680449
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Bros I think next week is going to be firesale

>> No.28680515

fuck I just had the sudden thought what would I do without 4chan? You can't have these kinds of high quality discussions anywhere else on the internet without instaban or soys telling you how "problematic" you are. I love(hate) you guys good night

>> No.28680528

>>28680449
nope, it's going to be neon green. look at this thread, way too bearish considering macro conditions.

>> No.28680594

>>28680449
I just don't see it. This was a TINA rally. This is a TINA rally. I don't see why it would suddenly stop being a TINA rally.
If the 10 yr spikes OR drops 1% in a day then I would start worrying. Both are bad news.

>> No.28680642

>>28680528
>>28680594
I fucking hope so im over leveraged in Tesla calls

>> No.28680681
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28680681

Trump may be gone, but it's still Chinese Virus to me

Chinese Virus Bubble

>> No.28680705

>>28680284
>>28680331
>>28680367
I was thinking of going all in on TQQQ, SPY or something like that.
Maybe going half-in and reinvesting in a few months if it tanks.

What do you guys think about the market crashing again this year? Do you think it seems likely?

>> No.28680857

>>28680705
If you think a crash is likely, consider TAIL. It gives you decent downside protection but doesn't suffer from nearly as much decay as VXX or any of the inverse ETFs

>> No.28680945

>>28680705
Just hedge with a small part in long vola. 10-15% OTM puts on QQQ, SPY or DIA and 20% OTM calls both for, say, January 2022 expiry. If there is a big correction coming it will almost certainly be bigger than 15%. Turns them into winning lottery tickers. Or if retard TINA continues you get the multiplicative effect from the calls.
You could also sell deep ITM calls on the YOLO leveraged TQQQ plays but that requires quite a bit of calculation.

>> No.28680953

>>28680705
My guy, if you have enough to maybe make it as an inherence, just play it all boomery and safe.

>> No.28680995

Any good Asian stocks other than chink shit. The most notable one is SE

>> No.28680997

>>28680239
You know what they say, only invest what you can afford to lose. I'd think and read really hard and carefully where i decided to put that money. Knowing what you own, why you own it, and how long you intend to hold, is what will let you sleep well at night.

>> No.28681265

>>28680995
KORU

>> No.28681359
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>>28677885
the bull year bubble

>> No.28681705

>>28679547
I want exposure to those sectors without having to dig through the cesspool that is gambling companies and weed companies.

>> No.28681928
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I own 6000 shares of Corbus Pharmaceutical Holdings

>> No.28681949
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>>28677885
Bear Bubble Butt Bonanza

>> No.28682066

>>28680449
30 year yield just sliced through 2% no problem
10 year yield just crossed 1.2%
we're fine
congress attention will now be on more stimulus now that the impeachment is over

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>>28678162

>> No.28682141

>>28682066
ive heard some of the famous stock investors say just endlessly printing money might not work? im a newfag and not sure. i see a lot of people like buffet and burry pulling out everything and going defensive as fuck

>> No.28682289

>>28682141
oh, it will definitely not work
and the blow up will be epic, legendary
debt market will blow up, housing market will blow up, equity market will blow up
all 3 bubbles will pop simultaneously
but it's not happening yet
if you see 10yr yield skyrocket and also see DXY skyrocket, then get a little nervous

>> No.28682291
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28682291

To all of you defense stock fans.
>America is building a new weapon of mass destruction, a nuclear missile the length of a bowling lane. It will be able to travel some 6,000 miles, carrying a warhead more than 20 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. It will be able to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a single shot.
>The US Air Force plans to order more than 600 of them.
>On September 8, the Air Force gave the defense company Northrop Grumman an initial contract of $13.3 billion to begin engineering and manufacturing the missile, but that will be just a fraction of the total bill.

Pic related is the Northrop stock price. Notice where the news hit? Yes. This is what you get with defense stocks. the eternal crab.

>> No.28682420

>>28682289
if i get rich off stocks and pull out at the top will housing crash and then i can get a cheap house?

>> No.28682435

>>28682420
yep.

>> No.28682577

>>28682291
>America is building a new weapon of mass destruction
we do this all the time
>a nuclear missile the length of a bowling lane
so not very big?
>It will be able to travel some 6,000 miles
so not very far?
>carrying a warhead more than 20 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima
so a bomb less powerful than bombs that existed 50+ years ago?
>It will be able to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a single shot
a nuke in almost any city center will kill hundreds of thousands.

So your entire point is that a new weapon that is the wartime equivalent of a big shrug didn't moon a defense contractors stock?
color me shocked

>> No.28682617

>>28682420
the fact that you're asking that question should make you dought the "get rich" part

>> No.28682769
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28682769

BUY ROLLS ROYCE

>> No.28682784

>>28682291
How the fuck did you manage to get a negative amount of brainmatter? Dividing by 0 is bad and will crash the market bro

>> No.28682914

>>28682617
seething retard cant even spell

>> No.28682961

what are you doing on monday when the market is closed

>> No.28682967

>>28682420
>if i get rich off stocks and pull out at the top
Good luck timing that.

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>>28682066
Thank you fren

>> No.28683033

>>28682961
Trade on the Euro market.

>> No.28683074
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28683074

are 13f's always uploaded on work days? i guess that means because monday is a federal holiday we won't be seeing them till tuesday

>> No.28683075

I put a break-even sell order on my CLF.

>> No.28683206

>>28683075
thats sad man. i sold all my shit at a 30% gain and i got out right in time because it did nothing but bleed for a month kek.

clf anon was telling about his """girlfriend""" buy clf with him and she bought near the top kek. of course he doesnt actually have a girlfriend he posts here all day losing money

>> No.28683434

>>28680239
The safest investment you can make while capturing the equity premium is an ETF that tracks FTSE Global All Cap Index, VT.
>The index includes approximately 7,400 stocks of companies located in 47 countries, including both developed and emerging markets. The fund invests in a broadly diversified sampling of stocks in the index that approximates the index

Remember, in the eventuality of a crash, people pull out, but money goes back into the market somewhere. You just don't know where, it could be emergent markets, it could be Japan again (Japan represented over 50% of world's stock market capitalization in the early 80s), whatever it is, VT will capture it.

>> No.28683444

Buy -1x Tesla shares to hedge against TSLA crash

>> No.28683462

So are futures trading closed too?

>> No.28683496

Is the cloudflare dip worth buying or what?

>> No.28683691

>>28683206
I bought a really small amount. It's just any time I look at it in my portfolio, next to MSFT, TSM, COST, BLK, I feel ashamed, it's ugly and it stinks.

>> No.28683692

>work tomorrow
>burgers aren't opening the market
>football season is over so nothing to look forward to
This fucking sucks

>> No.28683718

>>28683434
>in the eventuality of a crash, people pull out, but money goes back into the market somewhere
You are implying that the money will flow into (or stay in) the equity market, but this is absolutely not the case. It might flow into precious metals, real estate, bonds, and other financial constructs.
And VT will plummet.

>> No.28683750

>>28683691
kek i just sell anything that loses at a loss and make it back on something better. i only invest in shit i understand and thats been working really good with me. im really good with retail tech and fintech and whenever i stick to that sector i always make money.

tsm sounds solid to me msft is solid if you hold for like 10 years i dont the rest tho sorry fren

>> No.28683759

>>28683444
You are joking, but TSLA puts are actually an extremely cheap hedge against The Crash™.

>> No.28683819

>>28683759
i wont bet on tesla either way but if i had to pick between longing and shorting i would short it. 1 trillion market cap is just way to huge for something that fast.

but its crazy it gets so much volume it doesnt really go down its been exactly like a blue chip. way too risky its already going under 800 i think people might panic sell and the tesla millionaires pull out

>> No.28683923

>>28678178
Because USA is China's bitch now.

>> No.28683934

What does WMF stand for? Re: that discussion earlier about the US, China, and inflation.

>> No.28683943
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hello /smg/. are there many decent diversified mining companies listed on the US markets? ive got a bunch of exposure to metals used in EV but id like at least one blue chip company that will benefit from the EV boom

currently interested in BHP, rio tinto, south32 and mineral resources limited

>> No.28684036

>>28683819
You are correct. In the current market, I wouldn't go near it. It can literally go any which way. I wouldn't short it, that's for sure.
But you can be sure as fuck that once The Crash™ comes, TSLA will be one of the stocks that will plummet to $200. The other zombie companies (like AQB, BB, GEVO, PLTR and UUUU that seem to be popular here) will follow shortly.
Until the crash tho, buying puts on any of these is just burning money.

>> No.28684149

>>28678384
Lol. CRBP milkbreaths. Our time will come soon.
>it's 3:30 AM on a Sunday early morning on a long weekend and CRBP unironically is keeping me up from excitement

>> No.28684173
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28684173

how’s my portfolio, /smg/?

>> No.28684197

Who else IRDM gang?

>> No.28684266

>>28684197
Nah GSAT

>> No.28684302
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How big will be the crash? I am all cash waiting for cheapies right now. I want to gamble on stocks and shitpost on /smg/.

>> No.28684340

>>28678289
It's just newfags that are afraid of losing their $1,000.

>> No.28684341

>>28683750
you're not wrong it's not 100% safe but it still has, in my view, greater risk-adjusted returns than any of those options
precious metals don't generate cashflow, it's always a matter of time before people drop the greater fool theory
there are reits in the s&p500, a tiny amount, but there is some real estate exposure, and if people flocked to that market, the index would reflect it somewhat.
bonds, specifically government bonds, are expected to have negative real returns in case of a crash, just standard central bank policy at this point.

>> No.28684372

>>28681928
Holy fuck. Why? Why Corbus? Why did you choose CRBP?

>> No.28684380

Bros, I cant find a 10-Q or 10-K for PVG on SEC's database. I have never seen this up until now, why is that? Wouldn't they get punished/removed? They have all of these on their own websites tho, but I would assume there is a risk involved in that.

>> No.28684389

>>28683934
My guess is they were talking about the International monetary fund. Its also called World monetary fund sometimes.

>> No.28684395

Does all the anti-tanker talk apply to CTRM, i.e., primarily a dry goods shipping company that's diversified with two (2) tankers?

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I swear you guys just make up holidays to stop us Euros from traditional on markets that are ACTUALLY profitable.

>> No.28684409

>>28684302
>I am all cash
Lel, enjoy losing 3% of your money every day due to inflation
>it doesn't stop on weekends

>> No.28684483

>>28684407
Look buddy, I’m not happy about it either.

>> No.28684511

>>28684372
because it's an easy 2x at least

>> No.28684513
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Buy BABA

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>>28684407
>markets that are ACTUALLY profitable.
>what is Thyssen Krupp
>what is Bayer
>what is Richter Gedeon
>what is ERSTE
The euro market as a whole is a fucking crab, but there are some awesome picks there too.

>> No.28684532

>>28684511
What will it 2x off of?

>> No.28684637

>>28684532
A pain medication for lupus and some other supposed drugs for autoimmune diseases. They did not publish any efficacy results yet, which is pretty sketch.

>> No.28684682

>>28684532
hype and organic gap fill alone as it already did.. if the lupus study p2 results this month are positive it might go higher in the short term but im jumping off at 5.5

>> No.28684698

>>28684637
>They did not publish any efficacy results yet, which is pretty sketch.
Lol.

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>>28684409
>daily inflation rate
I forgot about it. Compounded in 2 weeks will be 63418% loss. But when the market crashes 63418%, soon, I'll be at the same point, so no loss nigger

>> No.28684795

>>28684682
Yeah, be warned that in typical biomeme fashion, it will pump considerably before the results, and jump off a cliff when the results come out negative.
And looking at phase 1 "results", I see more than 50% chance of them failing phase 2.

>> No.28684865

>>28684682
>but im jumping off at 5.5
Lol.

>> No.28684894

Anyone else in the CLBS pump for next week?

>> No.28684901

>>28683718
here >>28684341

>> No.28684955

They are going to exit their positions at 5.5 for CRBP because they think p2 systemic lupus and the systemic sclerosis results will be bad. They think the researchers working for institutions loading up on CRBP know less than they do.
Institutions can be wrong when they load up on pharma stocks, but they know a lot more than you do and generally have a reason to keep results off the radar while they load up.

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>>28684511
>Reddit niggers are already shilling CRBP along with GTE
Ngmi

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>>28684513
>buy baba

>> No.28685093
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28685093

>currently all in on PLTR
good move or am I a retard?

>> No.28685113

>>28684955
no, im going to exit my position when i doble my money on this stock and look for another undervalued stock. i also believe it might higher than that short term and more power to you if you hodl longer but im sticking to my strategy that has worked for me so far.

>> No.28685220

>>28684901
I think you have it backwards. The crash will be caused by a rate increase, and they will kepp the rate non-negative for the same reason they increased it in the first place.

One of the scenarios I can imagine (and it is super scary) is that the Fed increases rates to curb inflation, while simultaneously start buying actual equities to not let the equity market crash as a result.

>> No.28685222

>the return of biomeme shilling
Running out of things to buy. Buying some puts for next week.

>> No.28685279

>>28684955
>They think the researchers working for institutions loading up on CRBP know less than they do.
Well, the reason for that is the past biomeme pumps. Like VXRT for example. Were the institutions stupid there? Yes.

>> No.28685312

Lads, help me out here.

I'm new to options. I bought 100 shares in a shit stock for 70c each (so initial investment $70). I sold a covered call Feb19 at a strike of $1 and made $7 making my initial investment $63. If the option executes I also make +$37, but if i "roll" the option to Mar19 at the same strike I'd get paid $16 now making my initial investment $47.

What is the downside to this? Other than having $47 locked in and waiting til Mar19 for an extra $100? I can't really see a risk to it if I believe the stock will go up in the long term I can just keep selling covered calls or even rolling them?

Should I let the option expire (its been floating around 90c-$1.10) and hope it expires worthless and sell another covered call for more money or just lock in the goodness now?

>> No.28685372
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>>28685093
What's your average price?
Do you think they're worth 60$B right now?

>> No.28685445

>>28685312
only EVER run the wheel on a stock you actually want to hold.
A stock under $20 is almost never a stock you want to hold.
Worst case scenario you get rugpulled and the stock tanks. Best case scenario you made $16+ in your situation.
Save more money and run the wheel on a stock that isn't complete shit.

>> No.28685530

>>28679497
How the fuck does the US even want to start a war? You have over 100% debt to GDP, your economy is extremely overleveraged, your private debt is extremely high. These are not the early 2000s anymore, you simply can´t afford a war.

>> No.28685554

>>28685312
the risk is getting assigned if the stock soars and missing out on the gains from just holding the 100 shares.
if you roll out your call and the premium is more then what you got you're losing money.

>>28685445
he's doing covered calls on a pennystock

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hmmmmmm

>> No.28685584

>>28678801
futures trading general when?

>> No.28685616
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28685616

BIOPHARMA NERDS

Say there was a conference/phase2-3 results planned a week from now for some hype bio-pharma company, would you buy before or after said conference/results? Should you approach both differently?

>t. newlet to the crazy volatile biopharma market

>> No.28685650

>>28678801
Of course fren :D

>> No.28685678

>>28680945
this only makes sense if we have a crash like in March. If we have a steady decline like the dotcom bubble you will lose a lot of money

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Holy fucking shit why there is no 3x leverages WCLD ETF?

>> No.28685777

>>28685554
>he's doing covered calls on a pennystock
right, which are notoriously the most volatile thing second only to crypto.
Why go through the effort of locking up liquidity for a month to make $16?

>> No.28685820

>>28685616
If you are pretty sure the results will be positive, hold through the conference.
If not, hop on the ride and sell before the results. Keep in mind that sometimes they release results early, either early morning or the previous day.

>> No.28685857

>>28685312
the two downsides of covered calls are:
- putting a cap on your returns. Stock returns are asymmetrical, there are days that they shoot right up 10% while most days they stay in the -3,+3% range. Missing out on the best days can greatly diminish your total returns.
- your underlying may bleed, you bought a right risk penny stock that could fall 50%, just so you can sell covered calls for +10%. Simulate covered calls over IBM for example. It's not a good look.

there is no free lunch. Compare BXM to INX

>> No.28685863

>>28685093
it's going below 30 before the 19th I don't have the copypasta

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>>28677806
This is not financial advice.
I just hope you brought your oven mitts baby. But don't invest in the companies that you don't understand
and don't believe in because if they dip you're not gonna buy the dip and then you gonna sell low and be right
back here crying to me and I'm not having that. So if you can't handle the heat of these hot stocks then stay
out of the kitchen and consider investing in the Index Funds.

>> No.28685987

>>28685863
I sure as fuck hope so. I bought some 28 strike yolo puts for next friday just to spite the PLTR bulls here.

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>>28677885
Everyone says we're in a bubble and the crash is just around the corner which has me convinced we have at least another six months.

>> No.28686087

Thanks for the replies so far

>>28685445
>>28685777
I don't want to own it and I don't care if I lose it all. I'm just playing with pocket change to try to understand options as best I can before putting real money into it. I've got 800 shares in another broker for Palantir that I do want to hold long term, but I don't want to start fucking around until I've got a good grasp. Any good sources to read up on the "the wheel"?

>>28685554
But my problem previously investing has been not knowing when to sell. So realistically if I only sell covered calls at prices I'd be happy to walk away from in profit (+30-50%) I don't see getting assigned as a downside? I'm trying to move away from the feeling of missing out on extra profit by locking in something decent.

>>28685857
>Simulate covered calls over IBM for example. It's not a good look.
What do you mean by this? I don't care if I lose my initial, I'm just trying to learn the mechanics in a real world scenario without putting any proper money in.

>> No.28686237

>>28678178
Because Trump, no matter your opinion on him, was literally the last Western Leader to criticize China. People in Hongkong cheered for him in the streets. With Biden in office and the EU becoming more like the CCP every year there's literally nobody to stop Xi.

>> No.28686246

How to hedge against the major correction? Buy leaps or calls for SQQQ, puts on TQQQ or just simply own SQQQ?

>> No.28686265

Someone explain the 3% daily inflation rate

Isn't the inflation target 2% ANNUALLY at least in the UK.
So how would that work out to 3% a day? Can't you just make it annually with boomer stocks and not worry about it

>> No.28686331

>>28686265
money printer
it goes brrrrr

>> No.28686346
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how does investing in the sp500 and shit not sound like the riskiest thing you can possibly do? im a degenerate gambler and i only gamble on meme and high risk shit and pull out my money with a profit and just get in and out fast

index funds look like the riskiest thing in the world to me and i literally vomit in my mouth thinking about putting one penny in. i was looking at them and if you bought in the late 90s you would be bag holding for 20 FUCKING YEARS. how is that not the scariest thing in the fucking world? the stock was negatve for like 6 years and then got back up in 2007 then crashed again. literally every person was bag holding from 1999 until 2016. how the fuck does that not scare the shit out of everyone?

and if you check berkshire hathaway and sp500 it took like 16 years to get 300% gains KEK what the fuck is the point in that garbage?

>> No.28686366

>>28685678
The Fed has immediately backstopped any credit and liquidity crunch in the system with ever increasingly desperate and extreme measures. The Fed put just keeps having to be stronger and stronger.
March was not "the crash" , that was just a liquidity crunch from banks desperately trying to find cash for customer deposits. There was no real fear. No capitulation. No rotation of assets or even rotation between sectors. The next big correction will not be a slow decline because the "big one" will only happen when there is an end to the Fed put.
>gay bobo
Quite the contrary. This is the mother of all asset bubbles and I realize that it is a generation defining TINA bubble that could take months or even years to implode. People were calling the dotcom bubble 3 years before it "popped" and now almost everything is a bubble. The best money to be made is near the top of it but it strikes me as suicidal to not hedge against that.
The stock market bubble is nothing. NOTHING compared to the bond market bubble. The 3 month, 10 yr, and 30 yr yields are the only indicators you need. You see those make 1% moves in a day up OR down you need to have insurance.

>> No.28686398

>>28686265
its 3% per day... it compounds to around 9000% a year. you are fucked. no matter how much you invest it wont do anything. you have to turn $100 into a billion by the end of the year for your $100 not to be inflated. no one here can beat inflation.

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>>28678206
>China is about to go to war with Taiwan.
Ufathomably Bullish for ACEV.

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>>28686265
3% is a meme.
However, due to BRRR, stock prices are by definition inflated. You should see a 10% YoY return on Nasdaq100, and we are already past that this year. Every other percent is literally inflation. So it is somewhat correct to say that "Inflation on Friday was 0.5%".

>> No.28686523

>>28686398
>>28686331
Ok yeahso it is a fucking meme

Why did i hear that stockguy on twitch talking about it seriously

>> No.28686531

>>28686346
I made like 40% holding VOO for a few years while jerking off to kpop videos most of the day and not looking at my bank account once.

But ya it's scary at this particular moment.

>> No.28686554

>>28686346
You'd understand if you weren't a retarded frogposter

>> No.28686565

>>28686346
If you drip feed in along the way you've made money. You can't just look at an entry and exit position for indexes and ETF.

>> No.28686588

>>28686346
Just sell when they start going down lol. Rebuy when they start going up or when it reaches your original sell price. It's not that hard.

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>>28677806
One of the stonks which I hold(Fiverr) went from $17 to $325(nearly 20x) in 1.5 years lads. It was $20 in March. I made $40k which is a lot where I live

>> No.28686699

>>28686398
>$1B EOY
>The price of a cheeseburger with fries

>>28686411
Achronix is fabless. They manufacture all chips in Taiwan, by TSM.

>>28686523
They were being ironic, or clinically retarded.

>> No.28686798

>>28686366
Aren´t there 2 possibilities?

1. People sell their bonds because of the anticipation of inflation and another trillion stimulus. Bond yields are rising and at a certain level the economy and the US as a whole can´t afford the debt.

2. The fed keeps purchasing bonds and caps the yield curve at a certain level, but the dollar will lose its value and the US might lose the reserve currency.

These are possible scenarios that can play out over a longer period

>> No.28686837

>>28686699
At least they'll have $15 minimum wage though

>> No.28686868

>>28686699
thats nothing. wait till next years inflation. YES a small fry at mcdonalds will cost 9000 billion dollars.

>> No.28686898

>>28686485
They took on trillions in debt to pump the economy, but a huge chunk of the money ended up in the markets. You have to pay back the debt at a certain point. The market is pumped with future profits in a sense

>> No.28686929

>>28686565
>>28686588
i thought the whole point was to just hold it and not check it? either way it doesnt seem worth it to me

>> No.28686934

>>28686868
Dumb doomer

>> No.28687000

>>28686934
>>28686554
why are you people such angry bitter incels? cant even make a fucking joke here holy shit. i went to jail for a weekend and people were more pleasant in jail. yes literallly jail.

>> No.28687035

Anybody else loading up on semiconductor calls this week? I think the shortage is going to make this stocks explode.

>> No.28687062

>>28686346
>if you bought in the late 90s you would be bag holding for 20 FUCKING YEARS.
only the amount you put in 1999. If you continuously bough between 2000 and 2010 you'd be making bank

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>>28686934
>not reading the thread before posting a kneejerk response
>not having the mental capacity to recognize an obvious joke

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28687158

Can't wait for Palantir to be 20$ next week.

>> No.28687169

>>28686346
From my understanding indexes are more for savings. So yeah maybe you make fuck all in over 10 years compared to successful short term risky trades, but that's not the point.
So long as the returns from investment are higher than the inflation rates in that time the boomer who's saving for retirement doesn't really care.

>> No.28687185

>>28686929
>i thought the whole point was to just hold it and not check it?
Well, that does not work in the current economy. Just stay in cash or in fixed govt bonds. Maybe euro bonds if you're afraid of the USD inflating.
(E.g. in Hungary they have a bond based on the HUF that has a 3% + inflation guaranteed YoY yield)

Also, why would you visit /smg/ if all you want to do is passively invest.

>> No.28687199

>>28687035
The shortage is already priced in. Someone bought 6k $155 calls for march though

>> No.28687214

>BTC almost 50k

With more institutions getting in the stocks around this are only going to up. Probably not too late to get in, sad I sold my MARA calls at 37. Made a lot of money but that 250% IV making new calls retarded.

>> No.28687222

>>28687062
this. You don´t buy index funds with 1 time purchases (unless they crash), you buy index funds with savings plans every month until you retire.

>> No.28687226

>>28686237
>China promotes education drive to make boys more 'manly'
Now is starting to make sense why China infiltrated the US's education system and started pushing all this faggotry shit through academia. We gonna live to see the Western world be obliterated by China while our retarded media can't stop blaming everything on Russia and distracting us from the real enemy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55926248

>> No.28687268

>>28687158
you honestly think they would have released the IBM partnership before earnings if they thought they was going to be bad news at earnings? Wowza

>> No.28687284

>>28678473
The US has kept a carrier group floating in the South China Sea since 1945, the second those dirty chinks make a move towards Taiwan/Korea/Japan it's World War 3.

>> No.28687297

>>28687185
just asking. im only in meme etfs

>> No.28687301

>>28687268
This jabroni >>28687158
thinking the lockup isnt already priced in lol

>> No.28687325

>>28687000

checked. In jail if you disrespect someone there might be consequences. In here there are none. So go dildo yourself, faggot. Also, go back to plebbit. its clear you are not used to being here and dont like the freedom of speech.

>> No.28687331

>>28686237
>EU becoming more like the CCP
I wish that would be true

>> No.28687368

>>28687325
can you go outside and talk to people so you get your ass kicked?

>> No.28687400

>>28687297
If you want to be fire and forget, the usual strategy is a healthy mix of equities, bonds and some other stuff, and this is for a reason. Investing only in ETFs is, as you have noticed, very risky.

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>>28687284
like a carrier does shit vs a developed military

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>>28677875
https://youtu.be/d7xMgJedN2s

>> No.28687463

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

>> No.28687497

>>28687199
Which stock? Also how do you know the shortage is priced in, the shortage is expected to continue for months.

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>>28687268
>>28687301
You have been baiting into Palantir discussion, thanks. Do you think the surge in sales from increasing the sales force is going to be sustainable? Playing Devil's advocate, in some ways it seems like they're trying to pump the valuation as high as possible for when the lockup period ends.

>> No.28687563

>>28687400
nah im hoping i can hop out of the bubble at a good time. been making a lot of money with this place got in gme around 20 and sold at 350 and now im in comfy gainers making more than i ever did working

>> No.28687667

>>28687497
Sorry, somethings wrong with me. TSM

>> No.28687758
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28687758

>look up PLTR
>operating expense is greater than the companies revenue for the last 12 months

am i missing something here?

>> No.28687782

>>28687545
AFAIK the insiders are mostly Peter Thiel and friends, and they will probably not jump out unless they see something extremely rotten.
Things are not that bad (yet), based on GlassDoor reviews, but it IS getting bad. As you said, now they have all the meme contracts, I would say way too many contracts, their support and maintenance will increase at least linearly, and that kills most companies.
The best case scenario is they get bought by an incumbent defense contractor. Worst is they simply get kicked out by incumbents.

>> No.28687786

>>28687497
People talk about the shortage for a long time now. That’s what makes me say that it’s priced in. But I wasn’t being so serious. I like the meme. But it’s true that it just recently hit the attention of the broader public.

>> No.28687812

>>28686798
Yes. In short, eternal QE leads to either the death of the dollar (once YCC have to be implemented in function if not in name) or credit has to be tightened dramatically to prevent the collapse of the debt markets. March 2020 was a liquidity crunch NOT a credit crash. The bond market is the most terrifyingly bloated thing right now with junk bonds hitting 4% yield (because they are frontrunning Fed purchases). Stock market crashes generally leave the bond market unscathed, sometimes even stronger historically. But a bond market collapse would bring down the stock market in flames. With a correction much larger than the March crash. Will that happen soon? Who knows.
I don't even bother looking at the overall market indicators anymore. I just watch the DXY and 10 yr yields. if either one of those goes violently up OR down that is cause to secure some profits, hedge positions, or exists depending on severity. I think the "big one" will be heralded by a sudden violent move in the 10 yr and DXY in the SAME direction.
Disclaimer: I am balls deep in leveraged bull ETFs with vola hedges and gold/crypto positions.

>> No.28687850

>>28687758
tech companies dont need to make money lol idiot

>> No.28687876

>>28687758
Last ER they would have been profitable had it not been for the stock sells. This quarter will almost certainly be profitable.

>>28687545
Their sales team just grew by 40x because of access to the IBM network. The real sales of Foundry hasnt even started anon...

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Did anyone else score big on WNW?

>> No.28687883

>>28680945
>Just hedge with a small part in long vola.
So you buy and keep say UVXY with something like 1% of your entire portfolio, eat the time decay and try to time the bottom/top to sell it? Am I getting that right?

>> No.28687889

>>28687782
I don't understand how they are a product company. They are more of a service company and must be priced as such. Their costs scale with revenue

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>>28687850

>> No.28687934

>>28687035
Do you guys even know about the nature of the shortage, or are you operating on yahoo finance news?

The shortage is very specifically about old parts mainly for automotive use. What happened is that the corollavirus spooked automotive OEMs and Tier1s, and they cancelled orders for all the 10yo or older parts they still use for new cars.
Chip manufacturers subsequently jsut shut down and even disassembled the old assembly lines, because it was a pain in the ass to maintain them anyway.
Now that automotive realized that their sales are not actually crashing, they again want their shitty old parts, but now noone makes them.
This does not affect cutting edge chip sales even a bit.

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28687948

It's nice being able to read the whole thread for once.

On topic, I sold OTM covered call at 500% strike price expiring in a week, for a stock I expect to go up 50%. Have I made $5 for free?

>> No.28687997

>>28687889
>how is PLTR a product company
They are absolutely a Data Science outsourcing company. They just try to position themselves as off-the-shelf for that sweet 1000x P/E ratio. Idiots are buying in, so it's working tho.

>> No.28688072

>>28687331
Structurally, not ideologically. The Chinks get based Confucian Communism while Europoors get homosexual Jewish Communism, unfortunately.

>> No.28688078

>>28678440
I TOLD you bro! I WARNED you about AMC!

>> No.28688085

>>28687889
>>28687997


They are a SaaS company. Their only physical service they provide is their field integrators. Not sure why anon is so angry about PLTR success. He obviously can't see their full use case and didn't watch demo day.

>> No.28688096

>>28677885
The Tesla bubble, because you just know it's going to be the trigger for it all coming down.

>> No.28688116

>>28687883
No. UVXY doesn't even perform optimally under the conditions you would want it. Backwardation bleeds you out quickly.
I do long strangles on the indexes. Better liquidity. Better positioning. Rolled over every month. You can do something similar with selling deep ITM calls on the indexes but that tends to lock up more capital.

>> No.28688155

>>28687997
What's with the "off the shelf" meme? There's a whole 3 paragraph pasta about it that gets posted regularly but it's just word salad.

>> No.28688174

>>28687850
yeah afterpay is a good example of that, if you would call it "tech" though

>>28687876
>stock sells
im not familiar with this, tell me more. would it reduce the effect of their insanely high operating expense?

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For me it is cokedupoptions and thestinkmarket

>> No.28688196

>>28677885
the everything bubble

>> No.28688210

When are you guys going to realize oil is the next sector to have a meme bull run? Get your suncor shares while they're still on sale.

>> No.28688213

>>28682291
>It will be able to travel some 6,000 miles,
That's inferior to the minuteman III

>> No.28688216

>>28688085
I watched the demo day. It was flashy. Who's obviously clueless is you, if you don't realize that they build a different product (albeit from premade parts) for every different customer. It comes with a shitton of development and support costs.
I'm not angry at all. I'm jut trying to caution all of you that PLTR's success is virtual and will be short-lived.

>> No.28688226

>>28688116
Can I replicate this without options somehow? All I can get are knock-outs and warrants.
tfw europoor

>> No.28688277

>>28688189
for a literal pump and dump pajeet on the ASX you cant go past bhavdip143

>> No.28688279

>>28688155
> "off the shelf" meme
What meme? I didn't see the pasta you're talking about. It's just what we call products that can be used as-is by the customer. I'm sure as fuck that Palantir's stuff cannot be used as-is.

>> No.28688294

new thread when

>> No.28688358

>>28688096
This, or the Covid narrative shifting. Medically, Covid has been over for like half a year because there's various treatments now and it's become Basically impossible to die from it if you're not literally 80 years old and live in a country that has hospitals. As long as Covid "continues" stimuli must be passed and line goes up. The moment there's talk about lockdowns ending for good and the economy (including gastronomy and entertainment) being completely reopened, that's when you sell everything and go full BOBO. But that might take another year or more.

>> No.28688367

>>28688216
Are you invested and what is your play? I'm 90% out at $60

>> No.28688368

>>28688216

They make no more of a custom product for their clients than Salesforce does. Spoiler: They don't.

Are Foundry and Gotham different... yes. Are you confusing the difference between those two products? One is DoD one is commercial.

>> No.28688406

>>28688210
when did buffet dump is suncor? that was years ago... if it corresponds to that meme chart anon spammed ill buy
>>28688294
ill make a new one but it's early rn

>> No.28688434

>>28686398
Kek

>> No.28688515

Someone make an another thread. I remember a time when /smg/ was slow af. Wtf happened?

>> No.28688529

>>28682289
Youtube
Doomerism

>> No.28688532

>>28688367
I bought some puts on Friday for shits and giggles. I'm pretty sure they will expire worthless though, because clown market.

>>28688368
Salesforce is a good example, do you know how many engineering hours goes into a Salesforce installation? Many.

You are obviously only reading the PLTR investor prospectus and do not work in software development. Otherwise you'd knew better than say such silly things.

>> No.28688548

>>28686265
There are indexes that "measure" inflation and sometimes they reach 2-3% a day. This is clearly an inaccurate reading as my bag of doritos didn't cost over 2x what it did last week but it's become a meme.

>> No.28688552

>PLTR options attract a high premium

oh their ER is literally next week, that would explain it

>> No.28688571

new
>>28688562
>>28688562
>>28688562

>> No.28688578

>>28688406
Buffet hasn't dumped any suncor, he might have even bought more. We will find out about that feb 22

>> No.28688601

>>28686523
>Why did i hear that stockguy on twitch talking about it seriously
Because he's retarded? These "day trader gurus" are con artists who use google to make you think they know shit.

>> No.28688610

Buy Physical silver

There are a few whales from pmg and plebbit that are trying to take delivery of a slv contract. They are finding it impossible to do and getting the run around. You want paper silver futures, ya no problem. You want physical? Oy vey goyium must not need such a thing. I give it another few weeks, these whales aren't giving up. The fiat system is coming down

Buy Physical.

>> No.28688677

>>28688610
You're two weeks late with the physical silver meme.
You cannot outjew JPM.

>> No.28688822

>>28688532
Yes I do, we used Salesforce Lightening at my old work. Salesforce never once sent an Salesforce field rep to our office. Do you employ at Salesforce Admin to work on it? yes. That's why we are seeing companies like AT&T and Facebook hiring people with PLTR experience so they have inhouse admins.

You are forgetting that the competitive advantage of PLTR is the fact that they us AI to speed the integration of Foundry.

>> No.28688878

>>28688822
>they use AI to speed the integration of Foundry.
This is such a fucking marketing bullshit oh my god. Do they also use blockchains, or that's too 2017?

>> No.28689163

>>28688548
cool ranch anon

>> No.28689422

>>28688878
You make the decision everyday to be poor.