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Looking to read some intelligent and disparate opinions, including relevant data points if possible, as to why this is just the beginning, as opposed to it being the tippy top.

>> No.28577765

>>28577687
pee pee pee poo poo poo
this is just the beginning

>> No.28577803

>>28577765
This. OP BTFO

>> No.28577804

>>28577687
We seriously need a mass shitcoin die off, tons of useless "value" in the cap

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>>28577687

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>>28577687
here you go kiddo
Bout half way up so far

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I don't have anything generic to say to what you are talking about OP, so have some images. If you have something that feels more specific then I could talk about it.

>> No.28577969

>>28577687
Visa and Mastercard both planning to integrate crypto payments
Tesla just bought $1.5bn worth of bitcoin
Bitcoin ETP just approved in the U.S. for the first time
Grayscale fund still sucking up more than 100% of newly mined supply per month

>> No.28577997

MY thesis
>brand new sector, no tradition rules apply, besides human irrationality
>crypto flat until '17 at which point it moons and becomes volatile, rather than going back to post pump flat, indicated growing interest
>funds buying and celebrities shilling coins, either they are pumping to dump their shit on you, or they are literally the proof of incoming mainstream adoption
>everyone I speak to knows someone that dabbles in crypto, wait until it's everyone I speak to dabbling themselves!

THIS IS CRYPTO PRICE DISCOVERY BUY LITERALLY ANYTHING THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP THIS BULL IS THE INTERNET TURNING OFF

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what token is this

>> No.28578078
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28578078

You had 10 years

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/biz/ post rate with a btc price overlay

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>>28577969
On top of all that, Paypal opened up crypto payments to the US, and mid 2020 they're opening it worldwide. Mass integration and adoption is coming.

>> No.28578173

>>28577765
bullish af
>>28577803
imagine watching the biggest financial disruption in living memory, from the sidelines
t. hedged in PMs stocks fiat and business

>> No.28578178

>>28578024
STA :)

>> No.28578265

>>28578078
*AHEM*
Attention please
listen up gentlemen
FUCK BITCOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.28578451

>>28578078
>>28578265
If you sold at this point in 2017 you would have sold at 12% of the top, and BELOW the lowest point in the entire bear market that followed. BTC has not been that low since. Let that sink in

>> No.28578508

>>28578451
>Let that sink in
You need to go back.

>> No.28578720

>>28578024

Lol it's bitcoin you nerd

>> No.28578770

>>28577997
This. Its not gonna moon forever, there will be bubbles, there will be coins that dont take off, but in the end EVERYTHING will be higher.

>> No.28578783

>>28577687
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>> No.28578822

>>28577687
10d SF multiple is still divergent from 463d SF multiple after halving. Those values have always converged and that convergence has always been accompanied by rising prices.
>but I don't like this model
Good. This metric is independent of price. I know many of you consider this modeled as a price function to be a meme. Fine if you do. The tendency for SF to approach 1 is not. I've grown tired of spoonfeeding this desu.
You might also consider what the % change from the prior ATH to the next ATH was in each of the macro cycle tops. You might calculate a standard deviation of these values and then the probability that the price tops at the current level versus some other level. You might account for logarithmically diminishing returns in your calculation and still arrive at higher prices.
You might calculate the standard deviation of returns through any timeframes and the probability of whatever outcome you think will happen happening.
You might go to USGS and find the tonnage of surface gold in the world and then value it at the current spot. You might find the dollar value of bitcoin demand and the dollar value of gold demand for investment purposes over the past ten years and use them to forecast future levels. You might then combine this forecast with the expected decline in the rate of bitcoin supply expansion and come to a valuation. You might find out it agrees with the technical assessment.
Or you might do none of this and continue telling us how wrong we are.

>> No.28578828

>>28578508
Lurk more newfag

>> No.28578862

>>28577687
https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/2021/02/05/decentralized-finance-on-blockchain-and-smart-contract-based-financial-markets
>Posted 2021-02-05
>Early Edition 2021
also
>>28577765
fpbp OP BTFO

>> No.28578899

>>28578451
>Let that sink in
You have to go back

>> No.28578989

ok FAGGOTS, NEXT QUESTION. WHY THE FUCK SHOULD BTC DOMINATE WHEN IT IS EFFECTIVELY ANCIENT HISTORY IN THE MODERN TECHNOLOGICAL AGE, IT WILL FIGHT BUT WILL LOSE IN THE END

>> No.28579193

>>28578899
Mods are asleep you fucking newfag

>> No.28579241

>>28578989
The fuck are you talking about? there is nothing wrong with bitcoin, stop thinking about it as currency, it is gold.

>> No.28579373

>>28578822
>this is all about btc
WRONG!

>> No.28579437

>>28579241
IT COSTS TOO MUCH LEARN SUPPLY AND DEMAND CHEAPER ALTERNATIVES ARE BEING DEVELOPED BTC WILL BE DETHRONED.

>> No.28579466

>>28578989
Bitcoin has more than 1 layer, you ain't seen nothing yet fren

>> No.28579502

>>28578989
Markets are positive in nature. You supposition is normative. There is no "should" but only a "what is." Bitcoin is dominating because the market currently values it greater than all other crypto assets. Reasons why this happened could be that it's older than the rest and has had longer to capitalize and is more familiar to people.
>>28579241
Case in point. Before anyone says muh whitepaper understand it doesn't matter what the whitepaper says. It matters how people interpret the product. Computers were invented to perform calculations. Now you use them to watch brazilian women get railed in the ass.
>>28579373
>Or you might do none of this and continue telling us how wrong we are.
Amazing

>> No.28579658

>>28578024
Total crypto market cap

>> No.28579776

>>28579437
You can buy like 20 whole satoshis for 1 cent?

>> No.28579842

>>28579502
100% right now it is all about human emotion and perception of value, hence why the oldest shittiest coin is the most valuable, and since corpos are only now buying in, this perception will continue to the foreseeable future. HOWEVER my main argument is that btc will not dominate for the LONG RUN, and the shift is already happening.

>> No.28579940

>>28579776
FUCK MAXIS YOU'RE ALL AGING GEN X/YERS THAT THINK THE PAST 10 YRS PREDICTS THE NEXT 10, DON'T MISS THE FOREST FOR THE TREES FREN!!!!

>> No.28580060

>>28579842
Model it in numbers and your posts will be taken more seriously. I don't mean hash rate vs other hash rate. I mean valuations derived from observed and forecasted demand for services. The total addressable market for such services. Economic characteristics of whatever tokens will take its place. Etc etc

>> No.28580397

>>28580060
JFC, yes I could do that, but I was hoping some autistic neet anon who has the time had already done it. RN I'm looking for data on how many new users xchanges are adding per d/w/m but can't even get that... need AUTISTIC HELP

>> No.28580700

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>> No.28580756

NEW USERS = NEW MONEY, SOMEONE FIND OUT HOW MANY NEW USERS ARE BEING ADDED WEEKLY PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.28582034

>>28579842
There will be thousands of products all with different yields in defintech and emerging technology and all assets will be tokenized. People will diversify their portfolios and keep some reserves. What will they keep their reserves in?

>> No.28582168

>>28582034
Something cheaper to maintain than btc, that is my only 100% certainty at this point

>> No.28582673
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>>28582034
precious metals

>> No.28582888

>>28582673
yup if you aren't 10%+ in PMs you're just plain irresponsible

>> No.28583051

>>28582168
Nah the industry is being built on top of bitcoin. It will be propped up by all those under it even at 10% dominance.

>>28582673
precious metals are for preppers

>> No.28583069

>>28579502
you sound like you know your shit anon, question from an ultra noob: what's the point of the stop-limit? Why does it matter WHEN the order is entered in the books? Why not just putting a limit?

>> No.28583284

>>28583051
>built on top of bitcoin
there's a fucking massive difference between, following btc lead, and literally building on btc network. No serious project is investing in btc and the RnD is pumping into alts, yes ALTs are trailing btc lead because of MASSIVE first mover bonus in a virgin sector, but that will change BIGLY.

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>>28582888
>>28582888

>> No.28583420

institutions that haven't adopted yet will manipulate it down soon, the floor will happen very quickly, just enough for them to accumulate a position

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>>28583338

>> No.28583655

>>28583420
ok, interesting, how exactly will they depress price from current levels if they haven't bought in yet though?

>> No.28583913

HEY DID ANY OF YOU FAGGOTS NOTICE VOLUME GO TO ZERO YESTERDAY FOR AROUND 90 MINUTES ON EVERY COIN WTF WAS THAT

>> No.28584418

>>28578024
ETH

>> No.28585094

>>28584418
nigger