When cashing out your gains don't keep it in fiat.

[Anonymous No.28294303]

This is a continuation of the thread yesterday. Biden will print tens of trillions of dollars and you'll watch your money become worthless as he gives it to minorities, illegal immigrants, and funding endless wars.
PSA graded cards (NOT BGS, CGC) are the superior store of value. A PSA 10 Blue eyes white dragon just sold to Steve Aoki for $85,000. Personally, I'm $50k into Yugioh. Whereas Pokemon is maturing, the Yugioh population who played the game as kids is only starting to reach their peak earnings potential within the next 5-10 years.
Thread is for discussion of all TCG but feel free to ask me about Yugioh. In general for YGO all the money is concentrated in old school cards (1st edition LOB-AST), 1st edition starter decks (Kaiba, Yugi) and prize cards (Cyber stein, Crush card virus). Condition, 1st edition and PSA slab are the key indicators of value.

[Anonymous No.28294381]

it's already too late for most YGO cards, ghost firsts went 10-15x in the past few years. all you can do now is insta-buy starlights and OTS ultis on release.

[Anonymous No.28294420]

>>28294381
modern product is trash and wont keep value

[Hobo Anon No.28294445]

As much as I prefer the yugioh cards I can’t see them becoming too much worth in the future, they reoriented the hell out of almost every card in existence, and collectors don’t want to risk paying a fortune for a card that gets reprinted tomorrow

Silent magician is fire tho

[Anonymous No.28294454]

>>28294381
to add to this, I get prize cards and 1st ed 10s, but the liquidity on those markets is miniscule. it's fucked

[Anonymous No.28294507]

>>28294445
key word 1st edition. unlimited editions (barring LOB) are worthless because they HAVE ALREADY been reprinted to shit. 1st ed stamp means everything in yugioh

[Anonymous No.28294526]

>>28294303
Idk about yugioh, but I wouldn't put it past wotc to reprint reserved list cards, especially in their current state

[Anonymous No.28294562]

>>28294381
You dumb ass you can still build decks around old cards so they all still hold value and so do packs.

Pokémon is trash people only want one set

[Anonymous No.28294627]

>>28294526
Thats why you collect 1st editions. How many times has Charizard been reprinted? But all the value is concentrated in base set 1st edition Charizards. Never buy unlimited reprint

[Anonymous No.28294636]

>>28294303
>cashing out your gains

NGMI

[Anonymous No.28294742]

Should’ve bought the games, resale of OG Pokémon DS/GBA/GB games are fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.28294767]

>>28294303
You will not make money from trading cards

[Anonymous No.28294790]

>>28294420
>>28294562
what are you dudes smoking? as long as you know a little bit about the anime and metagame it's fucking impossible to lose money on fresh ghosts and ultis, and they actually have somewhat liquid markets that aren't full of PSA grading autists. ex

https://www.cardmarket.com/en/YuGiOh/Products/Singles/Rising-Rampage/Apollousa-Bow-of-the-Goddess-V-2-Special
https://www.cardmarket.com/en/YuGiOh/Products/Singles/Astral-Pack-Four/Maxx-C
https://www.cardmarket.com/en/YuGiOh/Products/Singles/Astral-Pack-Six/Tour-Guide-From-the-Underworld

these cards literally do not dump in value and you can find a buyer within days if you price it below market

[Anonymous No.28294846]

>>28294767
thread is about your crypto gains safe not making money. Yugioh cards are 1000% better store of value than fiat.

[Anonymous No.28294852]

>>28294303
>USD
Hahhahahahahaha, dogshit currency

[Anonymous No.28294859]

>>28294303
just throw it into equities lmao

[Anonymous No.28294876]

>>28294303
What the fuck I’ve never seen a rainbow blue eyes

[Anonymous No.28294911]

>>28294790
Can I just buy boxes of shit that people like and when they stop selling them it doubles?

[Anonymous No.28294917]

Real estate is a much better store of value than faddish memorabilia. Hell even boomerrocks are better.

Personally I'm just gonna cash out into monero and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.28294979]

>>28294790
I'm not a weeb who wants to spend all his time opening modern product with so much volatility. Point of this thread is to STORE GAINS in a place better than fiat and forget about it. I'd rather buy a $30,000 Cyber stein and come back to $60,000 a year later than flip gay starlight rares to my locals. I have a fucking job

[Anonymous No.28295092]

>>28294303
>PSA not BGS
BGS has a higher grading criteria including centering. its harder to get a BGS 10 than a PSA 10. not sure why you would ignore them if going for higher quality.

[Anonymous No.28295202]

>>28294767
my dream collection is this
>LOBE blue eyes
>BLS EOFB
>Full Windup set
>Full inzektor set
Im hoping after i make my first 200k to start shifting some of my assets into yugioh and poke cards

[Anonymous No.28295284]

>>28294790
Apollousa is meta relevant. If/when it gets power-creeped, it will crash. See 101: Silent Honour Ark/Dracosaak

Maxx-C is a meta warping card, that while banned, if becomes unbanned, will skyrocket in price. It's high in value due to speculation rather than long term value. If there's a major reset in the meta, making it so that you can only use cards competitively that were printed past a certain date, it will collapse in value.

Tour Guide is actually probably an okay store, but as the game goes on, I imagine it will loose value, though more slowly than the others.

[Anonymous No.28295321]

>>28295092
I'm not going for higher quality, I'm going for market value and ability to maintain market value, in these metrics PSA beats BGS.

[Anonymous No.28295345]

>global collapse
>fiat deemed worthless
>riots and rapes in the street
>shelves empty
>military shooting on sight
>no power
>government is handing out synthetically poisoned scraps of food to the lucky few
>times are truly at an end
>thank god I got my Duel Deck!

[Anonymous No.28295423]

>>28294979
Why not buy precious metals? Weapons? Land?

[Anonymous No.28295510]

>>28295423
>precious metals
why buy when they crab and barely grow in value?
>Weapons
not everyone's a burger
>Land
requires huge somes of money

[Anonymous No.28295582]

>>28294911
>>28294979
You're not supposed to buy boxes or open packs or flip and I never said you should. You order singles of max rarity cards on release. Anything that is a cute girl, anime-related or meta-relevant is only ever volatile in one direction. It's like buying ETH or LINK instead of BTC. I am 5 to 15x on almost every single ultimate and ghost rare.

>>28295284
Silent Honor Ark is not a cute girl though. And check the older Astral Packs, even garbage with zero appeal like Bujin Yamato is 3-4x from where I bought.

[Anonymous No.28295586]

>>28295423
rare PSA graded cards are worth more than their weight in gold.
Guns are for protection, just buy the few you need.
Land you have to pay tax, you have to worry about all sort of other shit that can happen to your property. If you want to build something you can buy land

[Anonymous No.28295603]

The Pokémon/MTG talk I understand but I never expected to see people posting YGO here, the hobby is still super niche and most cards are still trying to find they’re true value after the 2020 price spikes. I feel most of them are going to start dumping soon but some cards will always be stable.

[Anonymous No.28295609]

>>28294303
I collect videogames so I may be retarded

[Anonymous No.28295719]

>>28295582
I don't believe those have long term value. You can prove me wrong by buying them but I'd rather store my savings in tried and true 15-20 year old graded cards.

[Anonymous No.28295779]

>>28295603
If that's yours you should grade it ASAP. SDY 1st ed is undervalued and will only increase

[Anonymous No.28295985]

>>28294303
any cards or vidya can
a) be faked ("proxies"; "repros") and
b) are not liquid.
Good luck selling any of this for market value like on the same day
Unless you give out a way too good deal it could take months until you manage to sell
Exchanges market match instantly
Be smart

[Anonymous No.28296010]

>>28295609
Na dude sealed video games are a sleeping giant compared to tcg IMO. They are much harder to find than most popular cards, way more scarcity. And I’ve noticed over time as tcg collectors get priced out of card collecting many of them migrate to sealed game as an alternative because at the moment they’re more affordable. They provide the same nostalgia factor, and you can still obsess over the same autistic collecting qualities about it. Condition, print run, etc. lastly I think sealed games will become the tcg boom for the younger generation. Most kids in college/high school now didn’t play tcg, just video games.

[Anonymous No.28296078]

>>28295779
Already at PSA homeboy

[Anonymous No.28296157]

>>28295985
Boosters double in price retard

[Anonymous No.28296167]

>>28295582
>Silent Honor Ark is not a cute girl though
That is very fair. Do think that buying cards currently involved in the meta is a bad idea though. Would focus on stuff that has gaining value from outside of it, so you're not fucked by a sudden banning.

That, and I worry that, as time goes on, fakes will get far better plus get far easier to make.

[Anonymous No.28296177]

>>28295719
That makes you the YGO equivalent of Bitcoin maxi. Nothing wrong with that, but you're missing out. I can't find any single ultimate or ghost rare that lost to fiat, a lot of them have been around for a decade or longer. They won't collapse unless the entirety of YGO collapses, and then so will the absolute pimpest cards like yours for the most part.

>>28295985
a is wrong and b does not apply to all subsets of the TCG market

[Anonymous No.28296192]

>>28294767
Whatever you say retard

[Anonymous No.28296300]

>>28295510
>why buy when they crab and barely grow in value
Value.... in fiat? Right? Whether you like it or not that’s their purpose. They FREEZE your value, zero sum gain. You don’t lose but you don’t win. Much safer than your solitaire deck, no?

[Anonymous No.28296390]

>>28295609
Way way better, even more so if they are sealed with a manual.

[Anonymous No.28296407]

>>28295985
Fakes are the reason for grading and why graded cards carry a premium. The sports card market was and still is plagued by fakes but it became the standard to only trust 3rd party graded cards. No matter how good fakes get they will never perfectly match the card stock+ink dot pattern+resolution+anti counterfeit measures they put into cards. I.e the yugioh eye of Anubis.

[Anonymous No.28296484]

How are you guys going to handle counterfeiters? Scalpers? Look at what happened to baseball cards.

[Anonymous No.28296538]

>>28294917
Real estate is S-Tier.

After that, for me, it's guns and ammunition.

[Anonymous No.28296658]

>>28296300
why freeze your value in a assets that barley appreciates to inflation? Are you gunna show off your collection of shiny rocks to people or stare at them fondly?
if not then store your value in something you have fond memories of (for me its yugioh) but this applies to any collectable.
Everything has intrinsic value in it. From the looks of it, boomer rocks are falling and wont be seen as good stores of worth.

[Anonymous No.28296709]

>>28295202
>Im hoping after i make my first 200k to start shifting some of my assets into yugioh and poke cards
it truly is the current year

[Anonymous No.28296847]

>>28294303
Do you buy them already graded or do you try to find them for cheap and have them graded yourself? I'm sure the smart thing to do would be to hold onto them and let the value go up over time but is there any money to be had in flipping ungraded cards from ebay? Between the cost of having them graded and the inevitable lemons you would end up with it seems like you would have a pretty low profit margin at best.

[Anonymous No.28296892]

>>28296847
Hold booster boxes

[Anonymous No.28296931]

>>28296709
im trying man but its just so hard. I only have 20k so a 10x is all I need but I just dont have the keen eye for finding gems.

[Anonymous No.28297065]

>>28296167
I've been over it with a lot of my friends and we agree on the following conditions
>card must have either been or will be meta relevant in the very long run OR it is anime-related
>card cannot be purely archetypal UNLESS it is anime-related

even then it doesn't matter that much, pic related is a bunch of garbage or barely relevant cards that I found and most of them did 1.5-2x for me in the past 2-3 years. the two on the left are the only cards used in play and they have been stable in fiat so far.

[Anonymous No.28297206]

>>28296177
well we need modern product guys like you to keep interest in YGO booming. Keep at it bro

[Anonymous No.28297286]

>>28296892
I know that much, I'm never opening another pack or starter deck of cards in my life. I could have bought a new car with all the shit I opened when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.28297330]

>>28296192
>100 year old historical item that has copies in the single digits and left to deteriorate in people’s attics
vs
>mass produced anime cartoons from 20 years ago that were preserved in plastic cases from the day they left their packaging
Yeah same thing

[Anonymous No.28297333]

>>28296847
Buy graded to keep value/possible growth, buy raw for the gambling aspect (am I going to get an 8, 9, 10?) and possibly make huge gains. But mint raws are getting really hard to find now.

[Anonymous No.28297476]

>YuGiOh
Anyone else played the game? I took it pretty serious and had a good deck following all the tournament rules and such which I found on the internet. Then one time I meet with this guy and he was also into it. So my parent allowed him to come over at my place so we could play. Which was very rare, someone to be allowed to come over at my house. I like prepared my deck and shit and was very anxious on his strategy and theme of is deck .

And you know what fucking happened? He made up the dumbest rules of them all and pretended all kinds of shit which wasn't on the card. Like I had some effects or trap card or something and he pretend it didn't affect him because his monster could fly away from it. Shit like that. Or monsters which I was doing hitpoint damage to, he stil won because "no way this small bear can kill this dragon".

Still pisses me off to this day because there was literally nobody to play the game with in the village I lived in, everyone was just collecting the cards or not that into it. I even had a big mat, where you could put the deck and stuff and with positions of the game layout. Still get mad about it when I think about it. I was so glad when his mum picked him up.

[Anonymous No.28297493]

>>28297330
collectors of baseball cards from those old days will die out soon and not as many collectors today to replace them. I expect prices of these to plummet in 20 years when no one knows who the fuck he is anymore. You can make the same argument about YGO but that won't happen in the next 70 years making an LOB blue eyes the superior store of value

[Anonymous No.28297673]

>>28297476
Did he wear a duel disk too?

[Anonymous No.28297768]

>>28297476
Yeah I play competitively irl and online from time to time. You can head to Duelingbook and play for free on a non-automated client or download Project Ignis if you'd like an automated client. Irl can be a bit lame because most players are sweaty autistic losers.

[Anonymous No.28298218]

>>28297673
no

>>28297768
Yeah this was years ago, like 15 or so so I forgot most of the rules and everything. Not sure if it's fun to get back into. My cards are probably still in the attic of my parents house last time I checked. Do you think they are worth anything? I had some pretty good cards, but a lot of wear on them. Or they need to be like pristine state? One of my most valuables was "Magic Cylinder" from a booster and everyone recognized it from the anime and wanted to trade because it didn't come in a starter deck

[Anonymous No.28298321]

>>28294303
Rudy does this mean we get YGO videos soon?

[Anonymous No.28298449]

>>28294303
>PSA graded cards (NOT BGS, CGC) are the superior store of value

No lmfao it's Tesla stock and real estate. In that order.

[Anonymous No.28298546]

>>28298218
Most of your old cards are probably worthless, especially if they're in worn condition. But there could be some value in ace anime cards, esp if they're first. Check out https://www.cardmarket.com/en/YuGiOh/Products/Singles

YGO is really fun to play imo, but it's really explosive and the basics are very fucking hard to master, so it's not for everyone

[Anonymous No.28298688]

>>28296847
Buying opened product and hoping you'll grade into 9+ is typically a meme unless someone has taken fantastic care of their collection. Your best bet is to buy prolific cards graded or unopened product (booster boxes). Besides being seen as an investment, people will pay out the nose to get the experience of opening packs from their younger days. It's an incredible feeling of nostalgia if you didn't go through it yourself.
>>28295603
Even if they dump, they will then climb again. YGO has the Pokemon appeal where even though the cards have no more play value for the most part, they carry heavy nostalgia. Hell, in some cases old YGO cards do pull play value again, take Blue-Eyes. Konami gets weird with how it wants to work archtypes.

[Anonymous No.28298812]

Hope this is a PSA 9.

[Anonymous No.28298921]

>>28294303

The absolute state of 4chan

[Anonymous No.28298969]

>>28294303
Can't wait to drop 1k on this

[Anonymous No.28298978]

>>28297476
Lol I saw a kid pull that shit on a boomer at a chess tournament. You should’ve just shut him down fucking hate faggots like that.

[Anonymous No.28299346]

here's another gem for non-maxis like OP
https://www.cardmarket.com/en/YuGiOh/Products/Search?idCategory=0&idExpansion=0&searchString=world+championship+promo+set&idRarity=0&perSite=30
easy 2-4x from release even on the cheapest envelope

[Anonymous No.28301284]

>>28298921
this

[Anonymous No.28301945]

>>28295423
>not having all three
cringe

[Bond burger A burger that's bo(...) No.28302066]

>>28294303
Literally picked up an original sealed joey and pegasus deck a few days ago, feeling maximum comfy rn

[Anonymous No.28302079]

>>28294303
good, then i can pay my debt with pocket money and dont need crypto for it

[Anonymous No.28302242]

>>28297065
what is cyber stein

https://youtu.be/32bFiUVK0MQ

[Anonymous No.28302501]

>>28302066
these are actually going up. don't open sealed product, people pay a huge premium for sealed.

[Anonymous No.28302725]

I have about $100k of pokemon, ygo, and mtg cards. And like with crypto my fundamental goal is to take something I have autistic knowledge of and profit off of it so I can buy property and develop it how I want. The only cards I still want for my own collection are more mtg Arabian Nights graded cards and a graded Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale. Also thanks for reminding me I need to sell more Pokemon shit tonight, it's easy to get lazy.