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Salary Reference: People of IT Careers, what are you making?

Been shocked at wage disparities between male or female and certain industries/companies. Can we start a reference to what reasonable pay for junior and senior positions are, and how we should all be negotiating for our next roles?

I'm 23M in CT, Technology Coordinator @ a public school, 5 years of IT job experience, $50,000 yearly + health benefits and 501c retirement plan.

Age, Gender

State/Country

Years of Experience

Salary (bonus etc)

>> No.26332738

>>26332693
what kind of tax free benefits do you get with your 501c3?

>> No.26332988

>>26332693
22, Male
London
0 Experience
Software Engineer - £33,000

Not awful as a recent grad during these shitty times, but definitely not great either. Hoping to move my way to at least £40k within the next 2 years and if not I'll have the experience to force my employers hand or lose me for a better paying role (youthful arrogance tells me I can do this but idk)

>> No.26333035

Worked in tech in an MSP for 3 years before moving to sales.

I now make $150K a year plus comms.

26 year old.

If you can talk and are not socially retarded - move into tech sales.

>> No.26333062

>>26332988
Not awful? Mate that's a really fucking good salary for 0 experience, especially in this climate. People are clawing at jobs right now.

>> No.26333061

24M
30 miles west of Philadelphia
5
75k base with about 25k in bonuses (cash and equity) plus benefits (full health, dental, vision, discounts on other shit, 401k matching, you name it really)

Site Reliability Engineer but really it's more like devops/sysadmin

I live at home and invest all the money :)

>> No.26333239

>>26332693

26, M

Michigan, USA,

4 years,

275k

>> No.26333478

I live in a fairly low cost of living area. I'm networking support for a university - 42k. This job is under my qualifications but I took it because it's omega comfy. I've got 10 years of experience at this point (started at geek squad in 2009 and have been a network and systems admin for a medium sized business for 4 years) I could try hard to make more but i'm letting the opportunities come to me because I love where I live.

>> No.26333509

UK
23K
2-3 Years experience

Yeah I have pretty bad luck because I never went University but I know how to pilot almost everything in Azure/0365/Server 2012 R2+2016 and etc

>> No.26333541

>>26332693
At 23 if you're already a systems admin you were where I was 7 ish years ago. Keep working up if it's possible - I lost my steam and started a family but I'm also very happy now. Either way you'll make it.

>> No.26333575

>>26333062
Yeah that is true, I know it's good for sure right now but I have a real issue with being hard on myself in regards to achievements/goals.
t. Someone that didn't celebrate graduating uni with a 1st as I only got 78% when I wanted 85% avg (which is actually borderline impossible unless you're a genuine mega autist). But yeah thanks anon

>> No.26333586

working as a software engineer in switzerland - 3 years of experience - i make about 94k $

>> No.26333642

>>26333586
whats cost of living like out there?

>> No.26333664

>>26333509
also I'm 22

>> No.26333701

IT Infrastructure Engineer

35, M

Berlin, Germany

11 years of experience

€100,000 + €30,000 stock in company

>> No.26333704

>>26333061
Nice. I'm in the Philly area at 65k.

>> No.26333721

I make about 200k in the financial industry. How hard would it be to switch careers if I had to and it all came crumbling down. I can build a computer and kinda find shit on PC and reset my router and link shit throughout my house with deco type signal boosters.

>> No.26333738

HOW IS EVERYONE EARNING SO MUCH I FEEL LIKE A POORFAG WTF

WHAT DO?? I wanna be a cloud architect

>> No.26333739

21
USA/Brazil
1 year experience with React/NodeJs
Salary: $0

Feels bad man. How the fuck do i land my first job? I understand that once you have 2-3 years of experience then tons of doors open. But my junior dev resume isn't impressive enough to warrant a decent salary over a pajeet

>> No.26333747

>>26332693
21, male
Germany
1.5yrs
309€/month (student)

>> No.26333749

>>26332693
amazon sde3

4 years experience

320k in seattle

>> No.26333762

>>26333035
Any tips for making the transition/what to look for or how to sell yourself?

I've got 5+ years in the field.

>> No.26333833

>>26333642
switzerland is hell. everything is expensive as fuck. however i am still able to save up about 4k a month. in times of corona even 5-6k some months

>> No.26333841

>>26333738
>Get LinuxAcademy
>Learn Python
>Learn Linux
>Learn Networking basics (ip, acls, gateways, Mac address)
>Learn AWS

>> No.26333874

>>26333841
What about Azure and Google Cloud Platform certificates?

>> No.26333905

>>26333874
AWS is like 4x bigger than both of them. Azure will grow but don't waste your time with GCP.

>> No.26333910

>>26332693

25M
Canada, ON
unemployed
1.5 years exp

2019 grad comp eng grad no internship, fell into a job at a local IT shop where i did some react and typescript work, Wordpress CMS, but then that slowed and all i was doing was installing windows updates, fixing outlook, or vpn issues. So mind numbing, so I quit in October.
Currently learning full stack TypeScript, React, Node, GraphQL, PostgreSQL to be a remote code monkey. Am i gonna make it bros?

>> No.26333933

>>26333739
improve your portfolio. work on side projects with various different projects. you won't get experienced without working on something. sooo...employers like to see guys that are having a hard time getting a job working on their own projects

>> No.26333938

>>26332693
15 yrs, avg. 100 gbp/hr. depending on the contract
quitting soon

>> No.26333993

>>26333739
I had 0 years experience, after 5 months applying I landed one.
Applying for jobs and going through interviews is experience in itself. Got to the point I treated the first few months as learning opportunities than expecting a job. Helped me nail down interview technique and common patterns in technical assessment style Qs.

In the meantime start some projects. They don't have to be huge things, but demonstrate your skillset. For me, one was a project for my dissertation at uni which was the biggest one, another was a portfolio site (which I had only a couple pages done for the frontend and none of the backend) and a scraping project which didnt even work properly. Point is 2/3 weren't finished and didnt need to be. The fact I had built them out enough to know how to talk about them was more than enough. Choose a few simple but useful projects you can crank out a skeleton to in 2-4 weeks and target relevant areas for your career. Then revamp your CV with them and make sure you send a fresh cover letter (not copy-pasted bs) for every application.

>> No.26334000

>>26332693
29
UK, Liverpool, North (cheap)
Service Desk Analyst

£25k

9 months experience

>> No.26334009

>>26333905
Thanks anon, how do you usually format your CV by the way? Mine has an intro then job responsibilities with job history

>> No.26334016

>>26333905
agreed
>>26333841
Azure is just Microsoft in the cloud. It's shit and very limited in scope. Google Cloud is used by like two major companies, and geared towards devs doing everything. AWS is where it's at.

>> No.26334098

>>26332693
37
110k/yr
ServiceNow admin
10 years in desktop support before getting SN cert
easiest job in the world, getting the cert is a joke, one of the best kept secrets in "IT"

>> No.26334178

>>26334009

>Name
>Certificates
>Keyword salad of skills
>Job listed by dates with brief bullets on what I did
>Education

>> No.26334199

28, m
Australia
3 years
$100k, sailor

>> No.26334217

I JUST STARTED MY BACHELORS IN UNIVERSITY AND RECRUITERS ARE ALREADY CONTACTING ME TO APPLY FOR INTERNSHIPS AND I’M SCARED TO FAIL

HELP

>> No.26334232

>>26332693
30M
Remote
7
600k TC

>> No.26334253

>>26332693
28M
ATL, USA
6ish yoe
110k + 15%

>> No.26334268

Glownigger data mining thread but dont care

>solution consultant
>23M
>Midwest U.S.
>2yrs
>50k + 5k bonus, zero benefits
Lost my dev job due to covid layoffs, hate consulting, want to get out ASAP

>> No.26334377

25m
Bay Area, CA
3yoe software engineer @ big tech
$280k + $9750 401k match and spot bonuses (got over $6k worth last year)

Made about 240k last year, 200k before that. Equity grants keep stacking over time and are bigger if you perform well, I expect to peak close to $400k in a few years.

>> No.26334408

>>26334199
forgot to mention 3 months of paid leave every year

>> No.26334414

>>26333738
Most people aren’t outright lying but they pad their numbers such as
>>26333749

>> No.26334466

>>26334414
true

>> No.26334501

>>26334217
If you never risk failure you're never going to succeed.

>> No.26334509
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26334509

>QA at a mobile game studio
>0 experience
>WFH
>$45k CAD base salary with bonus and benefits
pretty smoothbrain job but I'm comfy

>> No.26334533

26m
uk
0
0
I only know python and front end, I'm learning web dev rn but also need a job rn that pays 20k+ and ideally in tech wtf does I do? im getting no replies from applying at ux/ui design, front end or even it support.

>> No.26334642

>>26333035
i just moved from insurance claims (absolutely disgusting) to tech sales. company i'm with pays $48k/yr no commission, it's pretty shit but they hired me during covid so hey

so far i'm just cold calling off lists. fucking terrible job for me because i hate annoying people, i'm not awkward it just hurts me to do. friend has been with this company for 5 years and is now making $100k and doesn't do any cold calling. probably gonna stick with it

>> No.26334641

>>26334533
Lie about your experience, it might take them a little bit to catch you if they do and that will be real experience. Just interview well.

>> No.26334652

28M
Midlands, UK
3 YOE
Software Engineer/SRE - £38,000

I think this is decent money considering where I'm at, but the work is really boring and there is tons of bureaucracy.
Not sure how long I can keep the effort up and I think I'd rather be working at a startup...

>> No.26334688

>>26333910
Out of curiosity why GraphQL and Postgres and not Mongo or MySQL? Aren't those kind of meme technologies?

>> No.26334767

>>26332693
25 M
GA, US
2 years
90k salary, 401k match, health care

>> No.26334920

>>26334641
Good stuff, this what you need to do at every interview. Bullshit but make it believable thing is you can learn it on the go quite easy and look up guides on things you don't know at home.

>> No.26335009

24M
Serbia
2.7 YOE (bit less than 1 year in strong companies each, 8 months in current job)
Level II backend (Go/PHP) engineer (will get III in May) - 27600 EUR

>> No.26335264

>>26335009
bravo brate

>> No.26335316

>>26332988
19
london
£75k intern pay
£90k starting with masters year paid off

don't be a bitch, learn leetcode and earn more then you're worth you faggot

>> No.26335663

>>26332693
29M
Michigan
6 years, software developer
$85k + standard corporate benefits

>> No.26335744

>>26334688
Postgres is good/legit. Graph is relatively new but picking up popularity within the javascript community.

>> No.26335773

>>26334688
I mean I should be learning a noSQL database like Mongo, graphql isn't a meme at least in my area and seems a bit better than REST for Greenfield apps. I didn't think MySQL vs postgresql mattered that much tho,

>> No.26335833

Look for sales jobs in Managed Service Providors.

I mainly sell Agreements for IT support and cloud space (Not hardware because that shit is dead)

>> No.26335933

>>26334688
Mongo is meme technology, MySQL is for boomers

>> No.26335935

>>26334098
Where do you live though? Sounds comfy.

>> No.26336083

is sysadmin the comfiest IT job?

>> No.26336085

28M
Toronto
Data scientist at consulting firm
$150k + bonus

>> No.26336200

>>26335935
Texas
Job is 100% WFH now, I do maybe 10 hours of actual work per week on a busy week. Otherwise it's just casual monitoring/updating/sitting in on boring change management & PMO Zoom meetings.

>> No.26336235

Question for all the dev bros out there (i'm not one, i'm a cisco / juniper networking guy) but I want to become one. Lets pretend you're me and you've got minimal python experience but decently experienced with linux and powershell. What do you do next to gain the most valuable skills? I feel i would learn a lot more if I had at least a vague goal in mind.

>> No.26336272

>>26336083
No

>> No.26336321

>>26336200
That sounds pretty excellent. I'm at a place now where my job is so comfy I'm ready to learn something again to level up.

>> No.26336420

>>26332693
25/M
Australia
3 Yrs Professional IT, 4 Yrs University
System Administrator
$120K Base, $140k w/ Bonuses (AUD)

Comfortable in this position given LCOL area, though this location prevents future growth. Would need to move to HCOL for a chance at higher growth.

>> No.26336499

>>26334098
I noticed that there are a number of different ServiceNow certs, which path did you take?

>> No.26336531

>>26334641
>>26334920
shit lads I'm really gonna have to lie if I want a job. but they'll ask for past experience or projects, I can make those up too but I won't have anything to show for it if they ask for proof. no junior jobs near me at all either

>> No.26336532

Question, I know it's acceptable to bullshit on your work experience to a certain extent, but what about a degree (in the US)?
If I say I have a Bachelor's on my resume and I'm convincing in an interview, is a standard medium-sized company ever going to find out that I actually don't?
(don't judge me, big dogs gotta eat)

>> No.26336545

>>26335316
Imagine being so insecure you larp this hard

>> No.26336709

>>26336532
I dropped out of college and I just put my major and the years I went there. I didn't say I got a degree lol

>> No.26336975

>>26332693
hey I have that 960

>> No.26337110

>>26332693
23 M
BURGER
$200k including signing/stock
2.5 yoe at same company - started at $140k with 0 yoe
Software Eng focused on ML and data eng
Quit last month tho , needed a break while investing and looking for other opps. Might go startup route or apply for darpa grants

>> No.26337248

>25
>Krakow, Poland
>6 years of experience doing Java backend stuff
>$4k US a month

>> No.26337293

>>26336272
then what is?

>> No.26337385

>>26336709
Well funny you should mention that then, the reason I ask is that that's exactly what I did.
I actually have an interview tomorrow, and I imagine that my education will come up (which on my resume is listed as: "Name of School", 'Studied Information Technology', *Years Attended*).
I suppose what I should ask is, how do you present that if/when it comes up? Do you lie and say you completed the degree, or explain the situation tactfully?

>> No.26338164

Recommendations for a 20yo NEET who had good grades but never really cared about the normie garbage taught at schools. Very much appreciated. My folio btw is 40% rari, 30% LOCK and 30% YFDAI.finance.

>> No.26339125

>>26333749
>amazon sde3
>4 years experience
>sde3
>4yr
Yeah, I call bs

>> No.26339262

>>26332693
23 m

NYC

0.5 yrs swe

155k tc

>> No.26339435

>>26337385

you talk around it and pretend that it is expected that they understand what you talk about. They dont want to feel dumb so they avoid the topic for you.

>> No.26339715

>>26337385
If you're going to be a liar then just be a liar

>> No.26339793

Network engineer
£30k + bonuses
26 yo
1 year in the job 0 previous experience
got a promotion and wage bump coming in feb
Went to uni

>> No.26339855

>>26339793
Forgot to say I know more than most people in my team and I'm getting rimmed wage wise, plan is to do aws cert and move job

>> No.26339882

>>26333749
Any specialty? Ic or manager

>> No.26339945

>>26333239
pretty sure i know who you are if not just larping

>> No.26340070

>>26333841
So ... How long to start and become employed with basically 0 experience?

>> No.26340144

>>26339435
this is how i get around telling thots i'm married

>> No.26340245

am i coping for only making 70k in dakota because i dont want to be away from my family

>> No.26340543

22
Male
2 years of experience as a front end developer both in Vue and React
Brazilian
My salary? The equivalent to 400 dollars a moth.

Just end my shit, seeing all your salaries will make me kms myself

>> No.26340572

>>26334688
Postgres is way better than MySQL and will get you in a better job since MySQL sucks to work with in comparison.

>> No.26340616

>>26333239
bitcoin id, its a sign

>> No.26340731

I make 80k$ as a Data Analyst but am super bored of it. I’ve done a decent amount of work in Python, R, js, and C++ but never as a professional dev. Thinking about making the switch even though I’d hate to be even more tied to a dumb ticketing system though.

>> No.26340804

>>26336532
They won’t check if you present yourself well. They just check criminal history

>> No.26340830
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26340830

>>26332693
23M, Java/Scala dev, 2 yrs professional, GA, 55k per annum, no bonuses. Help me I don't like piping data into spark.

>> No.26340832

>>26333993
Thx fren

>> No.26340989
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26340989

24M
fullstack dev
2 yrs prof
northern virginia
75k
my job boring/easy but i keep messing up my interviews for FAANG corps so i guess ill be in this hell forever.

>> No.26341012

>>26332693
I left.
Partly because I was doing janitor job for a comp sci degree and most of the jobs are like that. I worked at NVIDIA. I was offered a more senior post but the chores were similar. Chrunch every iteration. Read stuff, implement, test, forget, repeat.

Trying to run tech business in finance and real estate. I could become multi millionair one day but I work alone and don't trust people, so can't say how long I can keep up. But then, I have narrow focus and autism. Haven't stopped doing it and things are good.

>> No.26341052

>>26333701
Does you wife swallow?

>> No.26341075

>>26340830
>GA, 55k
You are getting fleeced raw, anon

>> No.26341139

>>26340830
This anon >>26341075 is right.
Start interviewing elsewhere and leave that company far behind

>> No.26341190

>>26333749
impressive if true, but how do you cope amazon sucks

>t. inferior amazon sde1 150k , 22

>> No.26341249

>>26336531
The perfect candidate is bullshit so why pretend you’re honest if they never are? It’s the eternal struggle between artist and managers. Just realize they don’t need to know how the sauce works and keep moving king.

>> No.26341332

38m
Director of IT
6 years prof
CA
165K
Easy job, business runs pretty easily, slimy people make it harder. Simple training issues become nightmares and old people hate new things...

>> No.26341374

>>26332693
26M, Charlotte area - can't even get an interview for almost a year now, just get thrown out of all ATS systems.

>> No.26341381

>>26341075
>>26341139
I have been looking into CO as it reminds me a lot of Jefferson, look further into that region?

>> No.26341420

>>26340543
Apply for a visa so you can escape. Believe dude.

>> No.26341577

>>26334199
Fuck same but America. Subs?

>> No.26341618

28 Male

California

<1 year

170k TC

>> No.26341644

>>26341618
What are taxes like for you? How much do you take home after it all?

>> No.26341665

>>26334509

Which studio? Curious if it’s in Toronto.

>> No.26341680

27M , New Zealand
Systems Engineer
90K + perks (car, internet, mobile) & bonuses

started from the bottom (phone monkey) now we here!

>> No.26341693

>>26341644

Taxes fuck me pretty hard, but I still take home over 8k a month if I don’t put any into 401k.

>> No.26341733

26, Ohio, Software Developer
3.5 years experience
$76k

How y’all making so much? Glassdoor claims I’m above average for my area and position

>> No.26341790

>>26341733

Also I barely do anything at my job so I can’t say I’m complaining much, how much work goes into a $130-200k software role?

>> No.26341797

I'm finishing my CS bachelor's in two years, what should I expect from the market? I'm currently part of a research project from the uni and the next year I'll try to get in an internship. But I'm afraid that 1 year of experience won't be enough for the application...

>> No.26341807

>>26341733

You have to live in Silicon Valley, LA, Seattle, or NYC. Look at levels.fyi to find out how much we make at even entry level. I went to a 3 month bootcamp my class’ median salary is 115k.

>> No.26341845

>>26341790

Not much, I work with complete retards that work at an abysmally slow speed and somehow they’re “senior level” making 200k+. Not sure how any of them got into FAANG either.

>> No.26341898

>>26341807
>>26341845

Thanks for the insight. Have been considering going for a remote role as I really like the low CoL here but I know those are competitive.

>> No.26341921

>>26341797

It’s enough, just make sure you’re good at algorithms and understand basic system design.

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26341940

>>26332693
Responding to data-minding threads

69

Dubai

3 Years in role

$900,000

>> No.26341950

25, Male Software Engineer
(Remote but employer in CA), US
2.5 years experience
92k with performance bonuses so closer to 95-96k

>> No.26342091

I have ~3 years in basic networking/IT experience and I’m currently beating my brains out to learn A+ in my program at Western Governors University. This program has about 6 other certs along with the magic piece of paper. Hoping to get into cybersecurity someday. Is this a good plan or am I just a hopeful brainlet?

>> No.26342157

>>26341921
thanks for the feedback bro, good thing these topics are almost full covered by the current semester I'm in

>> No.26342176

>>26340245
Family always comes first, you're doing the right thing and still making good money.

>> No.26342472

>>26333910

What was the pay for that job?