/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.23411716]

a few thoughts from an oldfag who has been in crypto from the start. We may truly be entering the next bull run, so don't fuck it up.

>if you're not beating BTC returns, it's like not beating the S&P; you're just wasting time and money. Don't get fancy or attached to some alt, and be honest with yourself about your true return
>if this cycle is like last time, BTC will provide the best and most consistent gains for sometime (~1 year), until new peak is reached (timing this is hard though)
>after BTC peak, alts will surge, move into these as we approach the peak (100k?)
>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet? this is not a rhetorical question. You need to answer this for yourself.
>take profits into your personal wallet(s) regularly, exchanges are still needed, but never to be trusted.

>BTC confirmed new phase if we close a weekly candle above ~13.5k
>There is still a chance we drop back down, especially if stonks crash, so don't go 'all-in' yet, there's plenty of upside beyond ~15K so avoid fomoing and getting chopped up at the current range

[Anonymous No.23411723]

haircomb token is the native token of the btc chain

[Anonymous No.23411735]

>>23411716
2013 oldfag here, can confirm

[Anonymous No.23411772]

BTC can't hold at this level for very long, I'd recommend you guys take your profits now, its gonna retrace quite strongly back to 10-something, if not now then around election time.

[Anonymous No.23411786]

Old fag but new to biz. What’s a reasonable website or exchange to use to buy some BTC? Keen for about $20k. Should I go all via one exchange or seperate into say 4x exchanges at $5k a piece?

[Anonymous No.23411795]

>>23411716
thanks for the advice oldfag, this is gonna be my first bullrun and i dont wanna fuck it up, when do you know its time to sell?

[Anonymous No.23411796]

>>23411716
Great post anon. 2012 oldfag here. This post is the real truth.

[Anonymous No.23411801]

>>23411716
How much faith do you put into stock to flow? Great advice on not getting married to an alt.

[Anonymous No.23411819]

Also how best to trade BTC futures?

[Anonymous No.23411824]

>>23411716
Oldfags already cashed out years ago and never returned good try tho

[Anonymous No.23411874]

>>23411716
2021 will be similar to 2016. Bitcoin will rise to a new all time high but it is not going to be anywhere close to the golden bull run. That will be 2022.

[Anonymous No.23411926]

>>23411772
If that's your theory, take them now. I think we break 12.5k at least though
>>23411786
>>23411819
I use Binance, but mostly because I'm lazy. Other exchanges can be good too, and spreading risk is probably wise.
>>23411801
It's a model, and therefore can't be perfect. My current thoughts are inline with lengthening cycles, but I try not to predict too much. It's better to have a plan for every possibility and be ready to adopt as new data comes in
>>23411824
This is objectively false, you can look at on-chain data to see old wallets that still have coins, but have recent transactions. Many of these are 'whales'
>>23411874
Absolutely a possiblity

[Anonymous No.23411985]

>>23411926
>If that's your theory, take them now. I think we break 12.5k at least though
I already have. Smart people are getting out way before election night.

[Anonymous No.23411997]

>>23411824
yeah because people who made money once dont want more free money

[Anonymous No.23412034]

>>23411716
I'm old fag as well and I can't wait for for the pink wojaks after we dump below 5k.

[Anonymous No.23412077]

>>23411716
What are good alts to dump into after the peak?

[Anonymous No.23412108]

>>23411716
Except you’re wrong, many many many alts significantly outperformed BTC, including ETH.

[Anonymous No.23412112]

>>23411716
>to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet
I too love getting liquidated after a 10% drop

[Anonymous No.23412113]

>>23411716
I keep taking profits as it gradually climbs but I keep thinking to myself
>Damn, if only I'd had this ride out I'd be up another 30%

[Anonymous No.23412116]

>>23412077
fantom
rsr
aave

[Anonymous No.23412136]

>>23412077
realistically you should be in your alts already

[Anonymous No.23412161]

>>23411716
bless you OP for dropping wisdom that took us painful years to learn in one post on these newfags

we're all gonna make it fren

[Anonymous No.23412170]

>>23412108
>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x
>with 10x leverage

[Anonymous No.23412208]

>>23412170
Holding a 10x long through a BTC 10x is literally just terrible strategy and nothing more than gambling.

[Anonymous No.23412213]

>>23412136
Is ETH an OK alt to stick with?

[Anonymous No.23412238]

Thanks oldfag anon. I've already messed up a few things from putting all my eggs into one basket early but I'll still turn over a nice profit within the next two years.
Best of luck to you in the coming year

[Anonymous No.23412247]

>>23412136
Bt they keep dmping, so if btc suddenly drops they would be completely deimated and so do i

[Anonymous No.23412266]

>>23412108
we're too late for that now I think. Mini alt bull is already over. You also need to consider the chance of picking the 'wrong' alt.
>>23412112
Of course that's a risk, hence my cavate. I should have mentioned that imo most of any portfolio should be spot, ideally in cold storage to help with strong hands.
I can't resist having some trading funds on exchanges for leveraged futures though. 'at your own risk' etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.23412283]

>>23411786
Swan to DCA is cheap
Otherwise just use coinbase pro they are the best and safe. A lot of people hate them because they are jews so if you’re not antisemitic they’re the best

[Anonymous No.23412414]

Getting a bit too bullish on this board. Calling it will dump back to 11k imminently

[Anonymous No.23412483]

Oldfag here.

>Stack sats (btc)
>be humble

the advice i've been giving for years. its literally all you need to do.

[Anonymous No.23412557]

>>23411716
>if this cycle is like last time, BTC will provide the best and most consistent gains for sometime (~1 year), until new peak is reached (timing this is hard though)
Maybe compared to shitcoins but XMR will do a 10x vs BTC just like 2016

[Anonymous No.23412593]

[Anonymous No.23412690]

>>23411874
Bullruns run upon a 4 year cycle.
2013. 2017. 2021.
This is closely related to the stock market, where it tends to rally at the same point, although stonks exclusively go up. Prices change, hats switch. But the cycle stays the same.

[Anonymous No.23412735]

>>23411786
bisq

[Anonymous No.23412736]

>>23412690
The 4 year cycle is actually because of the halvening. Which causes a supply shock about a year later which leads to an apeshit irrational parabolic pop then a hyper cynical multi-year bear market. Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous No.23412793]

>>23412483
correct, this 'boomer' strategy is the safest and will still generate tremendous returns
>>23412557
I like XMR too, certainly some coins will outperform BTC, but picking the right ones is daunting for a veteran, let alone newbies.
>>23412208
It's risky, but is the risk/reward worse than alts, most of which are down 90% from highs right now? Too complex to answer, but its worth a long think for any investor

[Anonymous No.23412820]

>>23411795
When there’s peak delusion about everyone becoming rich and you hear normies talking about it in person. That’s what it was like when bitcoin hit 18k and I sold that shit fast . It’ll probably be around 50-80k next run desu

[Anonymous No.23413435]

>mfw i did 500 ameridollars
>on a practice account

[Anonymous No.23413492]

>>23412820
This is actually tremendous advice. When CNBC and other networks start covering it daily it's time to sell part of your stack.

[Anonymous No.23413571]

>>23412820
The moment I have friends asking me about crypto, I sell. This has never steered me wrong.

[Anonymous No.23413827]

>>23411716
>>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet? this is not a rhetorical question. You need to answer this for yourself.
why do tards keep giving their money to exchanges like this lmao

[Anonymous No.23413845]

>>23411985
smart people dont sell crypto for dollars.

[Anonymous No.23413877]

>>23411716
China coin

And you all are going right in their trap

[Anonymous No.23413894]

Arthur Hayes in jail. Bitmex tamed. Paypal.

Gentlemen.....this is actually IT.

[Anonymous No.23413919]

>>23413845
I'm not "out" out, I'm in stablecoin until well after the coming correction slows down.

[Anonymous No.23414128]

is there any point in holding BTC if all I want from crypto is passive income?

[Anonymous No.23414531]

>>23414128
>Passive income
>Fell for the meme
There is no such thing as passive income. Not even jewish money lenders take their bussiness as "passive incone". They are constantly working, believe it or not.

[Anonymous No.23415251]

>>23414128

You can hold some of it in Celsius or BlockFi to earn decent interest on BTC... But then again you can get more interest from stablecoins.

[Anonymous No.23415576]

>>23414531
Dropping the real red pill.

[Anonymous No.23415981]

>>23414531
Then how am I making 11 Algo a day rn

[Anonymous No.23416090]

>>23415981
You are either taking massive risks which will destroy you or you are not beating inflation

[Anonymous No.23416338]

New fag here, this is the top or near the top. Get out while you can, this shit it is gonna crash hard.

[Anonymous No.23416787]

>>23411716
old fag that bought bitcoin when it was £200.

we are going into the mass market.

wall of money is coming.

[Anonymous No.23417101]

What can be done about a crippling emotion that somehow I do not have enough

[Anonymous No.23417343]

>>23412593
Dad went for a pack of cigarretes, he'll be back soon, bobo

[Anonymous No.23417427]

>>23417343

[Anonymous No.23417438]

>>23416338
Thanks

[Anonymous No.23417765]

>>23412820
>>23413492
>>23413571
thanks anons, ill make sure i keep my ear out around my normie friends for keywords and headlines

[Anonymous No.23418432]

>>23412793
Worth a long think for a gambler, not an investor

[Anonymous No.23418645]

I have about $80k in boomer stonks and want to sell some to move into BTC, about $30k or so. Problem is, because of shitty AMT tax law if I sell now I eat about 40% in freedom tax. If I wait until Jan I can structure 2021 so that will only eat 15%. Sell and buy now or wait until January?

[Anonymous No.23418663]

memes aside, what's the consensus? is this thread clever reverse FUD, or the biggest sell signal of this year?

[Anonymous No.23418793]

>>23412034
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.23418834]

>>23411716
Anyone want to help a guy understand the cb pro leverage interface? I'm unsure of a few technicals and I'd pay two link for someone to spend like 15 minutes showing me some stuff and answering my dumb questions.

[Anonymous No.23418847]

>>23411716
Fuck bears

[Anonymous No.23418881]

If you compare the gold-silver dynamic to btc-alt, it actually looks like it’ll be alt season until btc reaches $20k. Then BTC will moon at the expense of majority of alts until a pull back around ~$50k. After that it’ll be alt mania until BTC reaches $100k. Sell everything then.

[Anonymous No.23419126]

>>23411716
shitcoiner blabla

[Anonymous No.23419730]

>>23412793

You're the only on this board that knows what they're talking about. You're right about XMR and BTC.

[Anonymous No.23419792]

Thanks for trying to help people Anon. Hopefully at least some will listen. I wish you all the best :)

[Anonymous No.23419937]

>>23412557
>Maybe compared to shitcoins but XMR will do a 10x vs BTC just like 2016
Some dark markets are transitioning into XMR only. I see this as huge catalyst. Only issue is the lack of fiat onramps

[Anonymous No.23420058]

>>23419937
which honestly, lack of onramps only bottleneck and could further spike price

[Anonymous No.23420094]

>>23411716
I have $12k worth of BTC and only $500 in XRP, I'm considering shifting maybe 25% of my BTC over to XRP. Dumb? Smart?

[Anonymous No.23420108]

>>23416090
>Taking risk = inevitable destruction

Stay poor moron

[Anonymous No.23420126]

>>23420094
I guess OP answered my question already. Sorry, I'm day drunk

[Anonymous No.23420296]

>>23420094
>I have $12k worth of BTC
That's a really lame way of saying "I have slightly less than one bitcoin"

[Anonymous No.23420911]

>>23420296
it's just an easier way to frame things when comparing 2 cryptos dude

[Anonymous No.23421236]

>>23411716
>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet? this is not a rhetorical question. You need to answer this for yourself.
This. I'm sick of shitcoiners who apparently have never heard of leverage saying alts are better because btc lacks volatility. Anyway, as someone who held through the 2014-15 bear market and capitulated near the bottom and wants to kms, I agree with you 100%. But I think buying xmr now is similar to buying btc back then so I'm not too concerned.
>>23413919
I think you'll be surprised at how little the market cares about the election desu, locking in profits is never a bad idea though.

[Anonymous No.23421359]

>>23421236
>capitulated near the bottom and wants to kms
You made it this far so keep going man. Also you're right about locking in profits, exactly what I did.
Now that you know better these days, wait for those cheap bags in about a week or two like all the smart /biz/raelis are. Disregard the newfags who are going to be that person you were in 2015.

[Anonymous No.23421393]

50k link but I'm being held back by 320k xsn. Will they, cancel each other out or will link outpace the justing from xsn? Should I dump now and get more link or do you think xsn still has one more facemelting pump left for a run to like $0.2 or even $0.3? Am I going to make it? Just want to cash out less than a third of link and 100% of XSN to vanguard for the 4% draw meme and ride the rest of my stack to alpha centauri.

[Anonymous No.23421402]

>>23421393
>xsn
Trash. Go all in on Link.

[Anonymous No.23421450]

>>23411716
>>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet? this is not a rhetorical question. You need to answer this for yourself.

probably the alts offered on paypal, if we assume that paypal will actually buy the crypto they need to back their user's crypto.

normies hate early adopters and don't care to make them richer. other coins are also better from a technical standpoint and users will consider this. litecoin is under $100 and owning a whole unit of something is more psychologically appealing than buying a slower coin for more money.

paypal is facilitating betting. and right now bitcoin is both the most expensive and the slowest racehorse. it's a no-brainer. ltc and bch are more likely to cope with the additional load if paypal allows users to effect transactions on the block chain.

[Anonymous No.23421484]

>>23421236
>This. I'm sick of shitcoiners who apparently have never heard of leverage saying alts are better because btc lacks volatility.

it doesn't matter now, paypal has endorsed all four.

[Anonymous No.23421503]

>>23411716
>>23411716
>Taking advice for a person who clearly didn't make it in 2017, which was the most brutal bullrun in the history of any asset to date.

Yeah, no bro.

[Anonymous No.23421548]

>>23411716
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.23421629]

I'm a complete noob when it comes to crypto. I have a coinbase and want to buy btc and xmr. I have about 5k to my name and I can invest it all since I have a steady job to pay the bills. should I do 50/50 and just hold? how long do I hold? any guidance would be appreciated, thanks.

[Anonymous No.23421633]

this also puts paypal in a position to nudge their users toward one or the other currency. they definitely would not have included bch unless they wanted people to second guess bitcoin and make people aware of the concept of a fork.

[Anonymous No.23421654]

>>23420911
except USD is worth way less

[Anonymous No.23421677]

>>23421629
40% BTC 40%XRP 10%XLM 10%ALGO

[Anonymous No.23421688]

>>23421393
>50k Link
You’ll be one of the richest people on this board within a year. I’m a humble 13k stacklet with several boomer coins as well I’m debating buying more BTC or Link. Tough decision

[Anonymous No.23421926]

Set your stop losses, we're going down. Paypal hype has peaked and next support is <11,500 lol

[Anonymous No.23421946]

>>23421677
Never hold ripple

[Anonymous No.23422084]

>>23411786
Use coinbase and binance to buy, store it all on a ledger nano x

[Anonymous No.23422191]

>>23421946
That's why you're never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.23422215]

My portfolio is 90% BTC, 10% staked HEX

[Anonymous No.23422264]

>>23421946
>never try to make it

[Anonymous No.23422408]

>>23412116
I have LEND should I migrate that to AAVE? As of right now my LEND is actually worth more.. soo why would I not just sell it and buy AAVE separately?

[Anonymous No.23422514]

>>23422084
desu, a more balanced strategy would be half and half on and off exchange

[Anonymous No.23422842]

>>23411716
>>compare your alts 20-100x, to a BTC 2-10x with 10x leverage, which is actually a better bet? this is not a rhetorical question. You need to answer this for yourself.
KYS GLOWNIGGER

[Anonymous No.23422843]

>>23411716
Based oldfag

[Anonymous No.23422850]

>>23422514
Why would you ever suggest keeping anything on an exchange? Trolling or are you just an asshole?

[Anonymous No.23423059]

>>23411716
>>23411735
>>23412161
>>23412690
>>23422843

fucking 'tards
you will stay poor
crypto and stock are now synced
look at Nov 2019 to March 2020 as evidence
all institutions are into crypto as a hedge
the golden bull run already happened
future bull runs will be muted due to institutions
you missed out 3 years ago
greater fool theory

[Anonymous No.23423110]

>>23418645
wait until Jan

[Anonymous No.23423741]

just buy Geeq and OGN and you 30x your stack with no effort under one year

[Anonymous No.23423770]

>>23411716
is 10 BTC enough to make it?

[Anonymous No.23423956]

Anyone consider Paypal making their own crypto whatever it may be and airdropping it to Paypal users? this would pad their wallets and force adoption.

[Anonymous No.23424006]

It's over

[Anonymous No.23424392]

>1 btc
>1k link
will i make it?

[Anonymous No.23424594]

>>23412820
you mean like now?

[Anonymous No.23424718]

>>23423059
>a world changing technology and it's returns are now synced to the DOW
I'm gonna say no.

[Anonymous No.23425095]

>>23421450
i got my bet that normies will flood into LTC once retail is priced out of BTC

[Anonymous No.23425243]

I will just accumulate my favorite alt all throughout the BTC bullrun because it will be super cheap. An alt that I think will 100x in its lifetime.
Then when the BTC run is over and alt season starts, I will be fucking rich

[Anonymous No.23425389]

>>23425095
That is what happened in 2017, but that was when coinbase only offered 3 coins. LTC isn’t even top 5 anymore, so I’m not sure that will be the case again.

[Anonymous No.23425460]

Some pretty fucking bad advice ITT but I won't correct it because others have to fuck up for me to win, right?

Which is why people are giving bad advice, of course.

[Anonymous No.23425507]

>>23422850
There is a chance you'll lose crypto any place you keep it. I wouldn't put it all on a ledger x nano.

Its called concentration risk, dumbass

[Anonymous No.23425795]

>>23414531
My dad rents out land and has solar panels and would like a word with you

[Anonymous No.23425947]

>>23423956
I don't think they have any intention on doing crypto sends and receives, they just want to do paper gold, but for crypto

[Anonymous No.23426025]

>>23411716
I mean with long isn't it risker than just holding alts? Because with alts you can just cash out early.

[Anonymous No.23426467]

>>23411735
2017 new fag
can confirm these are both trash

[Anonymous No.23426494]

>>23411796
>>23411795
>>23411735
>>23411772
>>23411716
anyone trying to convince you to sell before $420,000 is a jew

[Anonymous No.23426596]

>>23411716
Is link an alt or is it blue btc?
Also can't sell my link since 3 years of cult like brainwashing made me emotionally attached, plus if I sell now to ride btc's pump I'll feel stupid for not selling at 20$ for >100 btc
TLDR:DRNS

[Anonymous No.23426625]

>>23425460
terrible post. everyone on /biz looks out for each other. consider this debunked.

[Anonymous No.23426757]

>>23425095
Not a chance. The only reason it ever pumped in the first place is because it was one of the only coins on coinbase. Now there are dozens and most of them are “cheaper” than LTC. Probably the least pumpable coin I can think of.

[Anonymous No.23427533]

>>23411716
bump

[Anonymous No.23427982]

bump

[Anonymous No.23428060]

>>23423770
god i hope so

[Anonymous No.23428160]

>>23411716
Why would alts pump after bitcoin drops? Alts seem to closely follow bitcoin

[Anonymous No.23428404]

>>23411716
Is there any worthwhile literature on crypto investing you would recommend for newfags?

[Anonymous No.23428861]

>>23411824
Nobody ever cashes out permanently or cashes out 100% Why would you? Bitcoin’s STILL HERE after 11 years still doing the same shit. Why would you EVER get completely off the ride.

[Anonymous No.23428902]

>>23411772
Sure thing moshe

[Anonymous No.23428949]

>>23411801
App?

[Anonymous No.23429010]

>>23428861
Quantum computer

[Anonymous No.23429069]

>>23411716
1. Buy 1 bitcoin.
2. Setup some kind of trust / time capsule for 2030.
3. Give yourself amnesia.
4. 2030. the lawyer or w/e contacts you and gives you the capsule.
5. Be among the most powerful people on earth.

That’s it. Don’t pay attention to any shit that happens its just there to make you act irrationally and sell.

[Anonymous No.23429080]

$133,000 is the next target.

[Anonymous No.23429091]

>>23413877
this is such an underrated post.

fuck /biz/, you're dumb as all shit if you don't realize btc is a cold war 2.0 weapon of mass bankruptcy, and china owns well over half the hash power.

it's going to zero, just ask dan pena :)

[Anonymous No.23429217]

>>23412208

So it's just the same as holding random shitcoins, retard

[Anonymous No.23429298]

>>23411716
>a few thoughts from an oldfag who has been in crypto from the start. We may truly be entering the next bull run
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.23429349]

>>23428949
CB pro

[Anonymous No.23429379]

>>23429091
>dan pena
The memes write themselves

[Anonymous No.23429380]

>>23429091
muhh Chinaa Fud

[Anonymous No.23429394]

>>23411716
unironically 2M a coin by 2030. Hold forever frens and you will be rewarded

[Anonymous No.23429464]

>>23429380
>Dan Peña claims he knows the person who created bitcoin, and according to him, it is Russian President Vladimir Putin. He believes that bitcoin is a Russian conspiracy to mess up the Western economy. According to Peña, bitcoin will inevitably go down to zero.

It's pretty funny desu

[Anonymous No.23429473]

>>23429091
As opposed to what XRP? USD?
Take your kike-controlled shitcoins somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.23429514]

Can I get a quick TL;DR on these 5: LIT RSR PNK ALGO REN - are any of these worth throwing 0.1 ETH at?

[Anonymous No.23429520]

2017 me is so fucking happy. I missed out on 100x returns being a fucking noob.. told myself another cycle qould come.. and here we are

Stay calm, use your head. We all gonna make it boys.
Make sure you long the run up, and short the dump. Theyre easy to predict if your happy.miaaing the top and bottom by roughly 20%. Use leverage wisely, and you will make it Anon

[Anonymous No.23429587]

>>23429091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYJH3li2zgQ

[Anonymous No.23429610]

>>23412113
Better to take profit then watch it all go away when it drops.

[Anonymous No.23429625]

What do I do with my bitcoins to make it more?

[Anonymous No.23429857]

>>23411716
daily reminder to keep taking screenshots and adding them to the collage we shitpost at 100k

[Anonymous No.23429875]

>>23429069

It's true

[Anonymous No.23430321]

This thread is bait to make you sell. Fuck you cunt your Jewish tricks won't work on me. I'm laughing at all the retards in this threads though.

[Anonymous No.23430361]

>>23412077
OGN

[Anonymous No.23430370]

>>23421393
>xsn still has one more facemelting pump left for a run to like $0.2 or even $0.3? Am I going to make it? Just want to cash out less than a third of link and 100% of XSN to vanguard for the 4% draw meme and ride the rest of my stack to alpha centauri.
Fuck you're a retard. First you better own some linkpool. Second dyor into xsn. $1 xsn is only 100 Million marketcap, let that sink in. Also why the fuck would you cash out any link for any reason much less for boomer stocks? Seriously re-evaluate your plans.

[Anonymous No.23430377]

>>23411716
DON'T. TRADE. EVER.

[Anonymous No.23431044]

>>23411926
>12.5k
Broken

[Anonymous No.23431084]

>>23429625
Buy LINK for BTC

[Anonymous No.23431591]

>>23411786
Coinbase is safest

[Anonymous No.23431750]

>>23412034
Let's see here...who could be right...this brainlet anon, or Paul Jones, MicroStrategy, Square, etc?

It will take a black swan event to send BTC that low ever again.

[Anonymous No.23432001]

>>23428160
I'd say not so much after it "drops", but rather the consolidation period after this current run-up.

[Anonymous No.23432008]

>>23411716
The answer is a balanced portfolio with a good sharp ratio comprised of BTC, ETH, maybe LINK and a little XMR. Moreover you're not an oldfag because every oldfag who used margin at 10x is in a gutter chainsmoking by now. You cannot predict the market like that, or, if you can, you wouldn't be posting here.

For all the other anons.
It's not FOMO to get in right now. Even if it drops from here. You should have been DCAing for 2 years but if you haven't getting at 13K still provides better returns than getting in at 15K. If you've "waited for the dip" this long it tells me you'll still be doing it at 20K. Don't be that retard. Buy in and don't look at crypto till next summer. You don't have the luxury of slowly buying in anymore if you haven't already. Target is 100-250K by 2023 for BTC and 4K to 15K for ETH. Don't fucking day trade.

[Anonymous No.23432028]

>>23411716
>hurr durr pump my bags goyim

Gonna put my money into alts, ride the wave, sell before it hits the shore and then dab on the pink wojacks who thought "maybe it will go higher" and then got memed on.

Then I'll do it again in 2024.

[Anonymous No.23432193]

>>23432008
>It's not FOMO to get in right now
this thing dips every month, anon. Yes, it grows in the long run, but waiting a month for it to cycle back down will save you thousands of dollars. It's not gonna moon tomorrow and you'll have missed your last chance.

[Anonymous No.23432270]

>>23432193
You can't predict the market on that short of a timescale and will be left behind eventually if you're not averaging in and out based on a risk metric of some sort. I specifically said this for the people who have been watching on the sidelines and are not positioned because they keep "waiting for le dip." If they're waiting for the dip this late in the accumulation phase they're probably going to be waiting for it at 20k too.

[Anonymous No.23432447]

>>23423059
This anon gets it.

>"it's gonna be just like the last times, the patterns will repeat themselves, in what is now an absolutely and fundamentally different market environment than it was during those times!!!"

[Anonymous No.23432451]

>>23411716
You bullish on Bonded Finance, """""oldfag""""?

[Anonymous No.23432604]

>>23411772
Get liquidated bobo

[Anonymous No.23432627]

>>23411716
>claim to be an oldfag
>green text wrong like a first day redditor
>get 100+ replies
It's not even summer, /biz/ is fucked.

[Anonymous No.23432630]

>>23411772
"can't hold this level" wtf does this even mean lmao

[Anonymous No.23433003]

OP here, glad some people found my perspective insightful.
I don't really care if anyone believes me or not, but to lend some credibility and discredit the trolls, see pic showing my first coinbase purchases in 2014.
I actually mined myself even earlier but don't have any proof of that

[Anonymous No.23433587]

>>23433003
nice. it's crazy to think there are quite a few anons here with 100 btc from the old days who will have ten million dollars worth in a few years from now.

[Anonymous No.23434002]

>>23422215
Basado

[Anonymous No.23434017]

>>23429069
What the f*** is wrong with you guys buy HEX it's a crypto CD.

[Anonymous No.23434104]

>>23433003
Bought around that time too

[Anonymous No.23434128]

>>23433003
oooooooo OP thinks posting some random coinbase screeny is proof. Take a picture of a piece of paper with your ops ID next to your coinbase account page showing the transaction.

[Anonymous No.23434500]

>>23418645
>I have about $80k in boomer stonks and want to sell some to move into BTC, about $30k or so. Problem is, because of shitty AMT tax law if I sell now I eat about 40% in freedom tax. If I wait until Jan I can structure 2021 so that will only eat 15%. Sell and buy now or wait until January?

borrow money with you stocks as collateral

[Anonymous No.23434880]

>>23434128
that wouldn't be a better proof, press F12 in chrome then you should know what I mean

[Anonymous No.23435131]

The Average Bitcoin Transaction Price Jumps Over $150,000

https://www.coincurb.com/news/the-average-bitcoin-transaction-price-jumps-over-150000/

[Anonymous No.23435154]

>>23418645
Borrow money with your stocks as collat. Or wait until 2021 if debt is cringe.

[Anonymous No.23435612]

>>23429520
Youre fucking champ man 2-3x coming from last high, basically best move is if you moved into other coins from the profit you made even if you didnt sell

[Anonymous No.23435711]

>>23429520
I'm not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.23435766]

>>23411716
RWS is where the real moves will be made

[Anonymous No.23435846]

shit, i ditched bitcoin and got married to an alt just like you said. I wanted better gains but with less risk, i don't have enough money to make good gains from a possible 10x from BTC. I just hope what I have moons to fuck

[Anonymous No.23436035]

>>23429514
ALGO and REN: YES

Others: suicide.