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>> No.23173056
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>>23173033
Good morning kneepad!

>> No.23173077

Good morning kneepad!

>> No.23173080

>Stimulus News: Pelosi sent this letter to Democrats
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-12ca-db77-abff-36da88140000
>"the Trump proposal is insufficient in meeting families’ needs"
>"A key concern is the absence of any response on a strategic plan to crush the virus"
>"Republicans are insisting on a tax credit for the wealthiest people in America, which is retroactive and therefore not coronavirus related, at the expense of tax credit for the families of our poorest children who are directly affected by coronavirus."
>"This proposal amounted to one step forward, two steps back"
https://www.reportdoor.com/trumps-hurdles-to-stimulus-climb-after-abrupt-tactical-shift/
>"It took 19 days after enacting the last stimulus, in March, to send out stimulus payments to individuals, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. analysts pointed out. There are now 24 days left until the election."
It's over. There's no way that it'll happen now - politically it doesn't make sense for either side; if the voters don't receive the check before election day it's better to wait til after.. (in their minds)

>inb4 no stimulus already priced in

>> No.23173085
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>>23173077
>>23173056
g-good morning

>> No.23173091

>>23173085
Do you ever sleep?

>> No.23173112

>>23173091
He has all the time to sleep when he's dead.

>> No.23173144
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If I queue an options contract order while the market is closed, are there any factors that could cause the premium to change before it executes?

>> No.23173145

i just watched Moneyball again

it was really good, you should watch it

>> No.23173149

my amd calls are going to print this month r-right guys?

>> No.23173155

how do I write contracts for lean hogs futures?

>> No.23173160
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Anyone on SPCE?

>> No.23173161

which one of you was this: https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/j8m13s/how_do_yall_feel_about_amc_stocks/

>> No.23173176
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>>23173144
Yes.

>> No.23173188

>>23173161
the only movie theatre stock I hold is HMNY

>> No.23173191

>>23173161
Movie theaters were already an unhealthy business before they had to close down for half a year.

>> No.23173192
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>50 hour EMA above the 200 hour EMA
>price gets at/near the 200
>buy some
>prepared to buy more at 4x/8x/16x the ATR below the 200

anyone else do this or just me? backtest it some time, it's amazingly accurate, especially on shit like QQQ or SPY etc, or just blue chips in general. you could say you'll exit if the 50 crosses below the 200 while in the trade but honestly even there i've found most of the time, excluding biblical shit like 2008 or the covid crash or dot com crash (once in a decade shit that will probably be extremely obvious if you don't live under a rock and actually check the news once in a while or talk to literally anyone ever), if you just fucking wait you can at least get break even or a small profit on a bounce because even during the covid crash you can clearly see there was still dip buying on the way down, it wasn't a straight line or anything. except under those extreme circumstances you can honestly just wait. you can do this on the daily time frame too, the 200 hour and 200 day MA's are extremely well respected by institutions, 50 to a certain degree too but 200 especially is a huge deal to tutes on those timeframes.

i also want to look into how well buying or shorting outside of OI walls works but i don't know how to get historical data on that, though i've been taking some screenshots the past couple of weeks so i have a bit of data i can look at. anyways, it's weekend /smg/ time finally, so, is anyone down to talk strategy in detail? i'm curious what ideas you guys have and how much success you've had with them so far.

>> No.23173211

>>23173161
>AMC copypasta
Even if a vaccine comes out..
It'll come out in stages - where it goes to the people who need it the most first, then 'medium' need, then young people - it's not going to just be "okay everyone you can go get your vaccine now"
Currently ~50% of the population is also refusing to take the first vaccine, wanting to wait & see how it affects other people / if it can be trusted.
After the vaccine is released, you're looking at 6-10 months before it actually would change behavior..
Furthermore, you're not thinking at all about the "chicken" of AMC (the "egg")
The chicken is movies - there are not new movies being made, especially anywhere to the level of blockbuster films that would revitalize the industry
Financing has also been crowded out, so it's going to be harder to produce movies
The new Batman movie already had to stop production because of Pattinson getting covid - it's going to take a lonnnnng time before the movie production industry picks back up
It takes ~1 year for movies to be made - so you're looking at 18-22 months before recovery..
Covid is spiking hard nationwide - it's only going to get worse this winter
I think that movie theaters will survive.. but it's going to be very messy for the next 2 years.
For these reasons, I'm out

>> No.23173215

>>23173191
But small number was once slightly larger number so it's a definite buy

>> No.23173220

I feel like AMC boys don’t know that other stocks will benefit from vaccine news far more.
They’re on the verge of bankruptcy.
This isn’t like GME. GameStop has had incredibly healthy financials.

>> No.23173233

>>23173176
So if I sell a put right now, on Monday it could give me a smaller premium? Trying to understand how my order would be affected.

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>>23173091
Hard to sleep when you are furiously fapping to ero guro all night.

>> No.23173261
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Anyone have any thoughts on the c-class shares of Brookfield stocks BIP and BEP? Or just BIP and BEP as an IRA investment?

>> No.23173267

>>23173211
Chad post

>> No.23173272

>>23173220
After news of that partnership with Mircosoft GME is basically a tech company, Azure with GME might just beat out Amazon

>> No.23173277

>>23173016
lmao LCI was shilled 2 months ago already and since then it has merely crabbed.

>> No.23173280

>>23173233
Set a limit order. It will hit or it won't.

I have a 17.5p for UVXY sold for next friday. I have been wondering what in the fuck is going on with it dropping so hard..

>> No.23173292

>>23173277
If I remember correctly LCI had a nasty lawsuit a couple of years ago and they just never recovered.

>> No.23173293

>>23173145

Seen it for the first time a week ago. Data and Analytics is now used in everything.

>> No.23173330

>>23173293
Autistic analytics are one of the reasons baseball is not only dying, but will die out completely. There is no human element to managing a team anymore.

>> No.23173342

GME COOM EDITION

NO MAS, NO MAS

>> No.23173364
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>https://www.marketwatch.com/story/think-your-nest-egg-is-safe-sitting-in-cash-think-again-billionaire-investor-explains-where-some-of-that-money-should-go-instead-11602081310?mod=mw_quote_news
>“I believe that increasingly there will be questions by bondholders who are receiving negative real and nominal interest rates, while there is a lot of printing of money, about whether the debt assets they are holding are good storeholds of wealth,” he said at the time. “I believe that cash, which is non-interest-bearing money, will not be the safest asset to hold.”
>So what’s an investor to do?
>Dalio said that China, where “almost everybody” is underweight, has fallen out of favor, but deserves more exposure, beginning with a diversified approach to investments in the region.
>“That means to achieve the right kind of balance of assets in China,” he told CNBC. “Our approach is, we call it all-weather approach, it’s a certain balance in which you achieve balance without lowering the expected return. From that, you want to make the tactical moves.”
>Read: Dalio says the world’s going to change ‘in shocking ways’
>The Chinese yuan CNHUSD, -0.00, he explained, could see greater usage outside the country as weaker global economies weigh on the the U.S. dollar DXY, -0.58% and other major reserve currencies. Dalio said that China’s interest rates are attractive, and the development of capital markets in the region has strengthened the yuan.
>“You’ll see more of the internalization of the [yuan], and it’s a natural consequence because as the dollar and the major reserve currencies are having the challenges that we are talking about, some element of void will be there,” he said. “But first… get the exposure.”

>> No.23173396
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I'm currently holding

>FNGU
>TSLA
>UPS
>TSM
>SQ
>GME

Any recommendations? I see that TSLA (so also FNGU) is forming a nice looking symmetrical triangle so I kinda want to see how that goes. Otherwise, the UPS and TSM are pretty slow movers, SQ is a sleeper surprise, and GME is my heaviest bag (bought at $14)

>> No.23173409

>>23173396
GME will pay off if you aren’t weak

>> No.23173415

>>23173233
I'm not trying to be rude here anon, as you're obviously trying to learn & better yourself, but your question is really, really dumb.
You're basically asking
>"If I sell something now when the market is closed, will it still sell at that price on Monday?"
It's totally dependent on the market on Monday & the stock you have the Put on
News could break over the weekend about your stock, analysts could start looking into your stock, outlook could be upgraded, it could be downgraded - we could go to war with China, an earthquake tsunami could hit the United States.
Literally anything could happen between now and Monday
All of these things will affect price
The stock will start trading at 4:00am on Monday - between 4:00 & 9:30am it's price could change radically from where it was Friday - this will affect the Put price
(on the most basic level, your Put will always be effected by theta decay + implied volatility too)

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>>23173364
chinese investing is the most risky due to them being the only beings on earth that could out jew the jews. theres a guy who buys debt from china and takes the huge gamble on the 10000% profit and getting fuck all from them just disappearing and never paying it back

>> No.23173438

>>23173364
not even an impressive schnoz like in pic related will get me invested in china.

>> No.23173450
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This is THE best reddit post ever written. I spend the last hour trying to see the original but it's been scrubbed from the archives. Apparently the bitch's friend was like "erm maybe he's right bitch".

God i wish I could see the original.

>TSLA puts

>> No.23173469

Cloudflare vs Fastly?
Shopify vs Etsy?

>> No.23173473
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reminder foor teslafags

>> No.23173474

>>23173364
>Getting between a America/Chinese tradewar.

Lmao. Nah, I think I'll keep my savings in PMs and Miners thank you very much.

>> No.23173475

>>23173409
That's what I'm hoping, this is my third try with GME after getting burned earlier. I've been trying to recover my losses from September (down $800 overall on my portfolio) but this market has been so fucky lately

I have a feeling things are going to get kind of choppy into the election, anyone else feel similarly?

>> No.23173477

>>23173233
My biggest advice to you anon is to not be actually trading options (yet)
You clearly do not have enough of a grasp of them, and you (most likely) will only lose your $
Research options, read books, read articles, watch YouTube, ask questions here
Trade options on paper until you understand everything about them

>> No.23173499

>>23173474
Also I'm not pan man.

>> No.23173502

>>23173475
just stop taking overnight risk by the end of october then, pretty simple really.

>> No.23173507

>>23173475
How did GME burn you?

>> No.23173513

>>23173450
>God i wish I could see the original.
Look it up on ceddit?

>> No.23173524
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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Now wait just a minute.

GameStop spiked over 40% just because they will start using Microsoft software in their stores and they will offer an Xbox bundle??

>> No.23173552

>>23173513
Yeah I tried that.

>> No.23173557

I want to invest as an attempt to generate extra cash maybe eventually get to sustaining but obviously that'll be awhile

I have practical pocketchange to invest

What are my options and what would you do?

>> No.23173566

>>23173396
Check out these stocks:
>ICLN
>TAN
>NEE
>CARR
>NIO
>OLN

>> No.23173575

>>23173557
Take out a loan, borrow from family, friends, sell whatever you can, hell steal if you have to and go all in on NAK

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>>23173450
>telling anyone fucking ever about your investment profits
yeah suddenly it turns into "our money" or how are WE gonna spend it?"

>> No.23173583

>>23173557
i'd suggest going through the boomer investing 101 in the OP

>> No.23173588

>>23173557
>What are my options
>options
buy call options on tech stocks

>> No.23173589

Thinking of buying jan. exp hsbc puts. What do you think?

>> No.23173595

>>23173524
they're getting a cut of the xbox all access pass. it's another major revenue stream for them and also, a partnership with microsoft of all companies shows strong belief in the company being successful. that's why it's a big deal.

basically every day there are more and more reasons why the bankruptcy thesis is flawed and the revenue of GME is likely to keep increasing at least over the next year. the more this increases the stock price the higher the rates go for shorting the stock and the more hurt that is placed on the shorts as it is less and less likely to go down, let alone bankrupt which is what all of the shorts were expecting and why it was so heavily shorted in the first place, get it?

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I'm currently holding NCLH, CCL and PK long-term. I'm pretty much all in tourism sector betting on either a vaccine or normalization of customer behavior. Around 15% in profit for now.

>> No.23173601

>>23173575
Is NAK solid? How do I find indicators of things like this?

>> No.23173630

>>23173601
Read up on news articles anon
Make a wise judgement and gamble weather u think it’s gunna happen or not

>> No.23173636

So Moderns and Pfizer are expecting phase 3 results later this month for their covid vaccine candidates. I bought stocks of both hoping for good news. Do you think they'll moon?

>> No.23173641

>>23173601
Do you believe without a doubt that Trump will win the election?
>Buy NAK
Do you believe that he might lose?
>Don't buy NAK

>> No.23173644

>>23173192
>anyone else do this or just me?
Anon >_< ema trading like most done trading by everyone

you said it youself, it respected by institutions
but it more of MM strategy because it not really beat underlying indicines

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>>23173630
Can I get your opinion on this? Should I drop everything and move to NAK God help me idk what I'm doing

>> No.23173655

>>23173469
I was thinking about making plays on cloudflare and etsy next week

>> No.23173661

>>23173575
LOL YOU IDIOT
they are trying to pump and dump NAK and use a noobie like you to do it with. Don't buy something shitty like a penny stock with your money. At least learn how to invest first with blue chip before going crazy with a very volatile thing like penny stocks.

>> No.23173678

>>23173636
Maybe. Pfizer has that Upjohn spinoff supposedly in the works though, so that might put a damper on its value if that gets realized.

>> No.23173685

>>23173652
Btw I have only started to invest since Friday, I’m a noob. But yes drop everything go to nak before u miss out

>> No.23173693

>>23173595
The revenue sharing applies to other retailers as well. It's also concerning that the gamepass eat into what they earn from their used physical copies business, which has much high margins.

>> No.23173695

>>23173507
I bought in initially when it was around $6.90, then it tanked around September 11th and I got weak hands. Tried to buy back in and got fucked again. Overall just bad strategizing on my part but oh well

>>23173502
I mean yeah, simple if you can day trade. I was considering switching to a cash account so I could, but the unsettled funds shit seems like it would fuck me up. I only have around $4000 invested overall so I could only get one or two good swing trades in before I have no usable funds

>> No.23173709

Any eurofags? Or people into AEX and other euronext exchanges

>> No.23173710
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>>23173557
>maybe eventually get to sustaining
>>23173652
>$17 portfolio
you poor bastards are funny

>> No.23173714

>>23173661
You're fucking stupid if you think NAK is a PnD play and not a long term hold.

>> No.23173730

>>23173709
Bong here, we ain’t part of Europe no more, we are our own continent, called England

>> No.23173733

>>23173450
Kek. this is why poor fags stay poor. They get 30k and immediately want to spend it.

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>>23173595
i dunno about that
https://www.barrons.com/articles/gamestop-stock-slips-odd-rally-microsoft-deal-overbown-51602268441

more digitally sold games does mean less second-market sales and is that xbox bundle even gamestop exclusive?

i think gamestop should pivot more towards gamer hardware (VR, headsets, mouses/keyboards with testing setups) and services such as putting together a custom "gaming pc". on top of offering retro stuff, like used games and older consoles.

feels like this deal with microsoft haven't changed a thing in terms of the chain going out of business in 5 years

>> No.23173744

>>23173714
prove to me its a long term hold
how much do they think they will get from the mine? How much loss is the company in atm and how much more will it cost to get what they want out of it. If its such a big bargin wtf is not many investors jumping in on it?

>> No.23173747

>>23173566
Nice thanks for those, I've been looking for some decent clean energy stocks. Why CARR and OLN though? And do you think NIO actually has any legs?

>>23173600
Have you looked at HIBL? Its holdings include NCLH and all the big airlines, really good recovery play if you think there's good news coming

>> No.23173755

>>23173524
gamestop has good financials with little debt. any revenue steams they can find out them back in business

>> No.23173757

Reminder I would heem everyone itt

>> No.23173759

>>23173710
As if your rat ass has anything besides mommas purse

>> No.23173774

>>23173600
Nice. I may enter nclh again soonish. Muh second wave fears have been weighing on them though.

>> No.23173790

>>23173469
NET fopr sure

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>>23173759
you should consider getting a job, it will earn you a lot more than your $17 portfolio

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which is the best crypto broker in the UK?
what do you guys use

>> No.23173841

>>23173695
>I mean yeah, simple if you can day trade. I was considering switching to a cash account so I could, but the unsettled funds shit seems like it would fuck me up. I only have around $4000 invested overall so I could only get one or two good swing trades in before I have no usable funds

day trading refers to trading intraday, swing trading implies holding overnight. you should be fine only taking trades intraday as long as you do proper backtesting on a good pattern or indicator setup and with a good risk management system. backtesting a lot is key. $4k should be fine, it's just that you can only take longs.

just learn something like the 3 bar play or breakouts, i can give you some videos to watch if you just want something simple and effective and don't want to figure out indicators.

>> No.23173852

>>23173810
I have a job, this is on the side.

We all start somewhere and not all of us got daddy's money from suckin his pipe

>> No.23173855

>>23173678
Why would they hurt them?

>> No.23173866

>>23173652
>2 shares of NAK

Even if the mine is approved you'd make like 20-30 bucks max

Is this just a for funsies account like you have proper investments/savings elsewhere?

>> No.23173878

Dutch bank ING was in the news again about money laundering few weeks ago, dropped from just over 7EUR to below 6. Luckily people don't care about Russian money laundering, comfy 11% up

>> No.23173884

>>23173747
CARR because short-term coronavirus = practically EVERY building has to upgrade / update their air filtration / A/C systems (HEPA filters etc)
Long-term global warming + rising incomes = air conditioning boom
'Recession proof' - everybody always needs air conditioning, refrigeration, heating

OLN makes ammunition, which is FLYING off the shelves - everyone is afraid of a Biden victory [and as long as the polls don't repeat 2016, it looks like he's going to win as of now] OLN also makes other industrial supplies - China's industry is essentially back to normal, while the rest of the world is still in lockdown; in other words, demand is the same while supply is lower = good for OLN
If Biden wins, it'll only accelerate the panic buying of ammunition as well

NIO because China announced they're going carbon neutral by 2060 (shocking everyone with this announcement) - this is why we saw the 'mooning' of stocks like SPI, CBAT, SUNW
When the Communist Party decides on a move like this, carbon neutral by 2060, it means HUGE subsidy & favorable contract money for clean companies - you cannot fail in business in China if you're tied to the CCP; NIO is in the best position to be THE electric vehicle maker for China, which will be essential to reach their carbon neutral goals

>> No.23173903

>>23173841
Sure I'd watch something about it, always looking for good strategies. What do you mean by
>$4k should be fine, it's just that you can only take longs

Is that in terms of having a cash account? I know I could play FNGU or NAIL or something with $4k and make $300 in a day but then I would have to wait a few days to do it again

>> No.23173920
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How many shares do you hold, anons?
This is the first time ever I have invested in a company of which I have no fucking clue what it is doing. Just once I want to taste those sweet tech gains...

>> No.23173930

Will NVAX ever go back to $180?

>> No.23173942

>>23173920
Number of shares doesn't say anything. I could hold 1000 shares or 1 share and the amount invested would be the same

>> No.23173948

Is Citigroup a good long term hold to rn. They are still down almost %50 from pre-covid

>> No.23173950

>>23173734
i don't think anyone here is really investing in gamestop for 5 years, anon. specifically the consoles releasing soon during the holiday season should cause a major short squeeze due to the short float being so absurdly high. the microsoft deal has nothing to do with this, it's just gravy, it's just one more factor that was a surprise that no one expected or bought into the stock for before. it's just one more revenue stream that makes it even less likely for them to go out of business any time soon and more likely for them to turn over greater and greater profits. i can only imagine how much the share price can explode if covid ends over the course of the next couple of months too with a vaccine, that's also a possibility.

the point is they aren't going bankrupt any time soon. 5 years is a long fucking time for shorts to hold a stock that is going increasingly against them in price and has increasingly higher interest rates to hold onto short. increasingly more difficult to not get margin called. imagine you shorted at 5 and it goes to 20, or even 50. at what point do the shorts have to cover, whether to avoid more losses or because they're forced to due to margin call? that's the big question.

in the mean time im just gonna keep holding half of my position and selling half on the pumps like this. i bought at 10 and sold half at 14.5. if it gets down under 10 i'll buy back that position, having already pocketed 4.5 in profit. then i'll do it again.

>> No.23173951

>>23173920
100 shares at $10. I can't fucking wait to APOLOGIZEpost once it moons.

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How long until AMD hits triple digits?

>> No.23173978

>>23173884
Okay good deal, thanks for some DD on those. I had a bit of CARR a month or two ago but its growth was disappointing me. I do think it's a good long term hold, though.

I've been skeptical of NIO along with all other Chinese stocks lately but I don't think you're wrong about it. Worth diversifying my portfolio even more for it, though? I don't really want to hold like 10 stocks in this market

>>23173920
20 shares @ $14.16. It's my heaviest bag right now but the smallest part of my portfolio. Really crossing my fingers on this one

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>>23173714
better off PnD on NAK then reinvesting when they are closer to actually doing something

>> No.23173997

>>23173920
I'm not investing because as a gay man I don't want anything to do with Peter Theil

>> No.23174002

>>23173855
Because Upjohn is not a insubstantial portion of Pfizer's business, and they will be a smaller company afterwards. When the spinoff actually happens, although we will get some shares of the new business, the price of the original business' shares will take a hit. I don't know when the spinoff is actually going to happen though. Last time I checked it was put on hold, but the matter is still left up in the air.

>> No.23174003

>>23173997
Hope you're joking anon

>> No.23174006

>>23173272
>Gamestop is a tech stock now
Hilarious. I love you guys.

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>>23173920
10 at 10.30

>> No.23174016

>>23173920
But
>230 @ 11.20 EUR
>70 @ 6.70 EUR
>18 @ 55,50 EUR
>55 @ 1.16USD

>> No.23174026
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>>23173652
Every single one of those purchases would result in commissions and taxes at least 3x the value of the holdings. In Europe this portfolio would not only be silly, but self-defeating.
How come Israel allows you Americans to have commission-free trading but not EU citizens when we are even gooder goys than you? I pay 50% taxes and can literally be jailed for "illegal opinions", just let me have commission-free trading god fucking dammit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.23174033
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23174033

What's the best/simplest US crypto broker? Noob here wanting to get some ground on crypto

Where do I start?

>> No.23174039

Why do people buy long-term holds and think how awesome it will be to reap 30% in 2 years when you can do that everyday pretty easily?

>> No.23174053

>>23173978
Imo, because it is such a 'scary' market, you want to diversify more (not less)
CARR definitely is a more modest growth company you're right about that; you're not going to see it go from $32 to $64 in a year or anything; but imo, it's a very safe, stable investment, with a really good trajectory
I would say continue to do your own DD on them, and evaluate for yourself if any of them are worth diversifying into
Imo, the ones you really want are ICLN / TAN / NIO; OLN is a bit more risky

>> No.23174057

>>23173903
note these are long videos but you should appreciate that as being a good thing because of how detailed they are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEjUd82NVVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_qgPGPTBEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbXenH6QHxk

these are also nice because besides the strategy, he also talks a lot about risk management and how people can fuck that up.

>I know I could play FNGU or NAIL or something with $4k and make $300 in a day but then I would have to wait a few days to do it again

i'll be honest i don't really know a whole lot about the cash settling thing. even then, $300 in a day every couple of days should be fine, 7.5% returns if you can do that consistently is extremely good if you can actually pull that off. still, at least it's better than nothing and you get to avoid overnight risk.

i've always felt like the better play is just to focus on your career first and save up at least $30k before getting into day trading but that's just me i guess. you're what we would call "undercapitalized". i feel like if you're making that much in a day you're probably risking a shitload as well which also isn't good and likely to cause you to lose your $4k at some point, but i don't know your strat or how effective it is.

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>>23174033
wrong thread fren

>> No.23174063

>>23174026
Because Idk what resources to look to because everywhere I look one article contradicts the other

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>>23174039
>reap 30% in 2 years when you can do that everyday pretty easily?

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>>23173950
the company making money during the new consoles being released isn't what makes the stock go up, people having faith in the future of the company is what makes stocks go up.

if people think gamestop will die in 5 years they expect the stock value to diminish during 5 years, then they don't buy in and the diminish prediction comes true.

>> No.23174094

>>23174039
Because those easy 30% gains could also be easy 30% losses, and not everyone can take the time out of their day that is needed to monitor their stocks closely to be cognizant of everything happening.

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>>23173415
>>23173477
Sorry my question was asked badly. I wanted to know if the order would cancel or if it would go through with a different premium when the price changed. Say I wasn't watching on Monday and something drastic happened before the order went through

>> No.23174118
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23174118

What do you niggas think about PLTR? Gay or nah?

>> No.23174126
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I would like to clear the air on some GME spam that has been going on. I will repost this every now and then, just to counteract the FUD going on.

1.) The partnership with Microsoft relates to GME getting a slice of all Gamerpass profits and revenue. This is obviously huge. In return, GME will become the largest promoter of Xbox and Microsoft exclusives. Both sides benefit from this partnership, MS because it fucks over their competitors, and GME because it is a steady stream of revenue.

2.) GME is being bought up by large players. Cohen is one of them, but many financial institutions have dumped in tons of money. They know the stock is undervalued as fuck and that it does have a future. GME should be priced around $30.

3.) There are rumors floating around that Microsoft might buy out GME down the road. It would become their "Apple Store" of sorts. It wouldn't make them money, but it is an important part of marketing their tablets, entertainment consoles, games, and other physical products.

4.) GME has been held so low because people thought it would be going out of biz. That is obviously not the case, they have EXTREMELY healthy financials, and those will only improve as time goes on.

5.) GME is insanely shorted and shorters are desperate to keep the price as low as possible. That won't happen anymore. Non have covered yet, and when they do, it will be a race to see who can cover first. The short squeeze will come eventually and will likely drive the price to insane levels.

There are many more fundamentals at play, like the launch of a new console cycle (95% of all consoles sold online are disk related), and the closing of unnecessary stores (GameStop has like 2 stores in every fucken mall), but this is a taste.

>> No.23174127

>>23173957
better question is how long till they hit $50?

>> No.23174130

>>23173261
I bought BEPC months ago and have no regrets. They have a great business and so much money in renewables right now, hop on board bro.

>> No.23174148

>>23173920
100 @ $9.70. I wanted to buy at $9.30 but fucking work got busy and I missed the chance.

>> No.23174151

>>23174039
Well right now things are just wacked. So normally your lucky to get 10 - 15%. Also the risk involved/tax hits is another factor.

>> No.23174153

>>23173233
Dont trade options (or anything for that matter) if you are this clueless about what you are actually doing.

>> No.23174163

>>23174118
you crazy, don't just use the palantír like that

>> No.23174169

>>23174087
anon...
a company making more money is exactly what gives most people faith in the future of the company......

>> No.23174174

>>23174118
Its a long-term hold but it stands to moon like crazy

>> No.23174177

>>23174118
Just get a couple shares anon. J-just a couple. What can go wrong?

>> No.23174197

>>23174039
post those results of you doing 30 percent everyday ?

>> No.23174212
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>>23174118
Be prepared to hold for a year or more. But the long term gains are very nice possible

>> No.23174220

>>23174177
Yeah I think I'm gonna put a band on it on monday

>> No.23174239
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23174239

I mean hell I'm not the smartest dude (I suck at math and I've no fancy college degree either) yet so far this year I've done damn good.. But I've got no debt either other than a house and I can retire in 11-12 years so there's that.

>> No.23174260

>>23174118
Put a cheeky couple of hundred $ down and watch it increase over long term without sweating every day, what’s not to like?

>> No.23174269

>>23174220
Wtf is a band? That some nigger speak?

>> No.23174285

>>23173744
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-protecting-domestic-mining-industry-critical-minerals-supply-chains/

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1306417824471175168

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-environment-mine/trump-administration-plans-to-block-alaska-mine-project-bloomberg-idUSKBN25J00R

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/news/northern-dynasty-final-eis-pebble-mine/

https://www.mining-journal.com/feasibility/news/1391677/northern-dynasty-gets-pebble-final-eis

TL;DR: It has a low stock price because they've been fucked by environmentalist and China dependency for a long time. Now they're close to getting the approval for Alaska. Just on that summer news alone the stock went up past $2 before they got fucked by a hit piece claiming that Donald Trump Jr convinced his dad to block the deal.

It went to sub $1 after that but now it's slowly climbing back up because Trump is signalling he wants to go all in on Alaska and for US mining to counter China dependency but the price isn't moving as high because a Biden win is being priced in and thus the chance of the mine taking off getting neutered.

>but debt
Just throw a $100 into it and see what happens. At worst you lost $100 and you feel smug about being right on a chinese honeypot forum.
Or you make profit and realize this clown market doesn't give a shit about fundamentals anymore when the President can single handedly pump or dump everything with one tweet.

>> No.23174288

>>23174118
I said previously I would dab on everyone when it moons but realistically it's a long hold. I expect it to crab down to around $7.50 in the upcoming months but afterwards I can see a bullish few years.

>> No.23174294

>>23174039
Hurr u can make so much if u day trade hur hur.

Compound interest mate. That’s how you make it. Not by taking on huge risks.

>> No.23174307

>>23173450
Unfathomably based

>> No.23174321

>>23174039
r u an trillionaire?

>> No.23174323

I just mean, like... I keep seeing people saying they've been holding GME, for example, through this last spike. Why not sell after it breaks the first resistance and then gets towards the next resistance. Obviously it's probably going to have trouble with the next resistance so why would somebody hold through all that? Why not just sell it and rebuy it when it comes back down to test the previous resistance to see if it is now support?

>> No.23174330

>>23173247
>kneepads + guro
absolute patrician combination

>> No.23174332

>>23174239
craziest thing is, a +50% gain this year is really fucking terrible

this was the year where there were so many picks that went +500% or even +5000% without having to play options, just because corona made people think so many shit was going bankrupt even after corona bux (e.g. CARES act) basically guaranteed most of this shit would be fine

instead I stuck to trading with fundamentals and only had a +50% (tech/semiconductors) through summer. Fuck, I basically outperformed those gains in a month already thanks to GME, didnt know there were ways to successfully value pick like this and far outperform shit with actual fundamentals

>> No.23174355

>>23174323
Because the whole point of GME is that one day it won't come back down.
Do you really want to miss out on that just because you wanted to be extra greedy.
It isn't that simple anon.
Imagine the pain you would feel if you sold "the top" except it kept going.
Look at what happened Thursday. Many anons waited for it to go below $9 to buy again.

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23174357

Who are the cutting edge defense companies?
Those who will build Terminators and Metal Gear.

>> No.23174365

>>23174126
>5.) GME is insanely shorted and shorters are desperate to keep the price as low as possible. That won't happen anymore. Non have covered yet, and when they do, it will be a race to see who can cover first. The short squeeze will come eventually and will likely drive the price to insane levels.

it's like a reverse stock market crash. i can't wait to see all of the panic buying by all of the people leveraged to their ears on shorts.

>> No.23174372

>>23174321
Well no, obviously you can't do this after a certain level of capital. But most people here aren't millionaires trading with millions. And perhaps 30% everyday is an exaggeration. But 5 to 10% certainly isn't. Maybe some days are just black. But wasting months sitting in some stock watching it go up and down without making a transaction is pointless.

>> No.23174374

>>23174323
This is what I’ve been doing, annoyingly mistimed the dip yesterday and sold too early at around $13.

Gonna buy back it when it stabilises, just gotta think when that will be. Any of you guys think it will go much lower?

>> No.23174376

>>23174026
>In Europe this portfolio would not only be silly, but self-defeating.
Depends on the country. Stop pretending Europe is one, Hanz.

>> No.23174388

>>23174127
How does never sound?

>> No.23174394

>>23174355
But I see your stance as the greedy stance period you want to try to get all the money possible out of this even when that's simply not smart. It's very risky because a lot of things could go wrong period whereas getting five to 10% every day in channel flipping is extremely conservative and very easy to do. Being willing to leave money on the table and missing out on huge runs is actually the discipline in doing this period it is greedy to not be able to do that.

>> No.23174413

>>23174374
If it doesn't bounce back up from this current support line monday, and it is a major support, then I would get out of it and wait for it to collapse before the selloff.

>> No.23174428

>>23174394
Nobody who bought GME a while back planned to sell for anything less than $20. This isn't greed, this is sticking to the plan, the numbers, and knowing that you are right no matter how many idiots try to convince you that you are wrong.

>> No.23174430

>>23174394
idk why it is so hard for people to consider just selling half on big pumps like what happened thursday. that's what i did. i still have half of my position in case it goes higher and if it comes down i can buy back in, im good either way. it's like risk management is completely beyond you retards, idk man...

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>>23174220
I think you have a little time to contemplate, for now PLTR is flatter than my wife desu.

>> No.23174455

>>23174430
When did you buy GME?
How long ago?

>> No.23174457

>>23173747
Oln manufacturers ammo that is is getting very rare and expensive at times like this
Plus they manufacture ammo for the military which would still need ammo in case of strict gun laws passed by Biden.
Nio actually exist unlike nkla.

>> No.23174460

>>23174430
I mean, this is much more along the lines of what I am suggesting is smart to do. Anyone just sitting in a stock for months while it goes up and down is doing it wrong.

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>>23174126
take me out of this SS

>> No.23174473

>>23174376
>Europe isn't one
For now.

>> No.23174480

>>23174323
hindsight 20/20 and lesson learned, I thought it was the infinite squeeze but it obviously wasnt now (real public float is 117 million shares after all)
lost out on thousands in unrealized gains but there was no way I was going to take profits so prematurely with record-breaking volumes and the potential of more afterhours news that Friday given the history

Unless next week is as obvious, I'll stick with my original exit strategy and price target. Still an overall gain in the end especially since no one was expecting Microsoft for the GME play. It has all but confirmed that Gamestop is going to be safe for a long time, like some anon pointed, what Hasbro wished it did for Toys R Us
Xbox game pass was basically a HUGE threat to gamestop since it's basically Netflix of videogames (how oddly appropriate for blockbuster), and I really have a lot more faith in the current board for pulling this off. Ryan Cohen is just a bonus to me now, i'm not going to ditch even if he reduces his position anymore, MSFT is a bigger deal than him

exit strategy = trim position at $20, Q3, and Q4, and whatever else happens. People are so wrong thinking this will be anything like the 2013 speculation rally

>> No.23174484

Is there anyone on here that daytrades european stocks?

>> No.23174501

>>23174428
But that's only one variable to this equation. Any stock worth flipping on the way up to a point you know it will reach is the perfect one to do what I am suggesting to do. Even if you don't nail down a flip correctly you still know you'll make it up anyway. But to just sit there and watch volatility happen and do absolutely nothing on a stock you know will eventually be up is just insanity. The ONLY reasonable reason to sit and not do anything would be anticipation of keeping over a year so you only have to pay 10% capital gains. But I don't think anybody here is planning on holding more than a year.

>> No.23174504

>>23174484
No not really, just short and long term holds here. AEX fren, you?

>> No.23174505

>>23174469
Which one was you senpai?
I'll consider it.

>> No.23174515

>>23174504

Im asking because i can't daytrade american ones due to work.

>> No.23174520

>>23174455
bought at $10 a couple weeks ago. actually originally was in at around 7 before the last ER that dropped it to 6, someone said it was dumping around 8 so i sold there but i wish i had held. bought back in at 10, sold half at 14.5 in the after market on thursday, still have half at 10 right now. even if it goes down i already make a nice chunk of change. if it goes up i can make more. if it goes down i can buy more. you don't have to do some all or nothing shit, this shit is really obvious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJBmVhefMeE

>> No.23174534

>>23174372
if you start out with $1000 and make 5% a day (250 trading days) you will end up with $198,000,000 at the end of one year

>> No.23174535

>>23174323
>>23174480
that said, yeah i really regret not swing trading
basically still be in the same position overall with GME, but with a $5K bonus for doing a few clicks intraday

again. hindsight 20/20 though, I was personally expecting to swing from Monday given those massive volumes
I really need to revise my strategy more, like maybe swing with a quarter of my position if I'm not that confident to do half for example

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.23174540

>>23174520
Then there you go. My point exactly. You can't time something like this properly.

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>>23174505
this one

me had make bullish dope for GME TA chart
and said GME had big chance for break 12 and maybe even hit 15 for long time

>> No.23174559

>>23174480
>Infinite squeeze
Ahh ok this makes sense then period the reason people are sticking to this is because they're under the impression that regsho numbers show a short position and not just artifacts from market maker transactions on unusually high volume stocks that every stock gets. There is no infinite short squeeze here that is a common tactic by people who have agendas and convince noobs of period everyone goes through the phase where they think infinite short squeezes are defined by regsho numbers. They're not. Don't get taken in by that. GME is a good stock but don't think it's going to spike to some infinite squeeze because of regsho short numbers.

>> No.23174576

>>23174534
Well no, because as I've already suggested you can't do this with multi-millions. You can do it with smaller blocks every day. You're creating a straw man by implying one's entire capital should go into a flip every day.

>> No.23174581

>>23174520
>this shit is really obvious
no, man you dont understand

this shit was so well setup for afterhours news to really start a squeeze
SSR triggered, massive amounts of retail short sellers jumping in cluelessly, no one was actually covering yet (just margin calls)

BUT THEN
i forgot I was trading GME, not OSTK with a CEO who's actively screwing over short sellers

Fuck I bet Gamestop never even did share buybacks on the Q2 dip with their remaining $101 million authorization

>> No.23174590
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Is GME fucked now?

>> No.23174627

>>23174540
the big payoff is supposed to be earnings around the holidays most likely after the consoles release and christmas happens. i feel like you'd be a fool not to scale out some after such a huge pump, it's obviously going to drop back down some more you just don't know how much though. so you can and can't time something like this properly, you should just know if it spikes like crazy you should take some off the table to protect your investment but still hold on to some in case it keeps going up, and if it goes down you can buy more. if it gets back down to 10 i basically have my same position as before except i made 4.5 on half of my position for free. the FA is still the same and the event hasn't happened yet.

idk what you mean by "can't time something like this properly" exactly. i don't necessarily know when precisely things will happen, but i have a general timeframe and conditions on when/where i buy and sell at. and i have a strong case for believing that those conditions will occur in a relative time frame. there are specific timings i know as well such as christmas and earnings dates too which would be more specific.

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>>23173080
OH NO MUMU

>> No.23174639

>>23174590
only if you FOMO'd in at $14
original play to sell with hype by Q3 or Q4 has only gotten better

this is just about being sad and salty for not scalping easy profits with the volatility

>> No.23174661

>>23174581
like i said. you sell half or hell even a third and you protect yourself, yet you still have skin in the game in case it really does squeeze and keeps going up. it's called a hedge, anon. scaling out. making gains is nice, but protecting against losses is far more important.

>> No.23174667

>>23174581
If Cohen wants to take over or even take it private, he wants the price to go DOWN, not up. Same with a Microsoft acquisition.
The short squeeze was a popular movement, a coalition of small investors, nit a big biz plot.

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>>23174639
Good think i FOMO'd at 13$ : - )

>> No.23174696

How bad will the hyperinflation be with the stimulus packages?

>> No.23174713

>>23174639
>only if you FOMO'd in at $14
No, I FOMO'd at 10.30 back when.

>this is just about being sad and salty for not scalping easy profits with the volatility
This, and I am hella salty. But also scared now, I thought this was THE big one, not 100% sure we have a second shot.

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>>23173080
>republicans want gibbs for rich piggies
>democrats want gibbs for niggers
>i don't want either of these, though
>meanwhile the middle class continues to die a slow painful death

i fucking hate this political system

>> No.23174735

>>23174696
Inflation is good for the stock market. You think companies take losses on inflation? No the people do. They pay for it. That is to say we will in the end, but will be able to because our investments will keep up with inflation due to the stock market. Theoretically.

>> No.23174743

>>23174696
thats not what hyper means.
usa outsources inflation, the whole world buys dollars to trade oil with. well be fine.

>> No.23174763

Thread theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6rP_HS0ox4&ab

Horsechads rise up!

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>>23174559
im not talking about short volumes on fintel or something which obviously involves that market maker shit. Official data is out. If you're wondering why the short interest is massive, it was more like ~50% back then which is totally reasonable for a dying company, and the ~100% today is a result of massive sharebuybacks that GME did (pic related)

People are just delusional thinking a short squeeze is inevitable when institution can hold through a squeeze and just cover eventually, but that doesn't change the fact that they will want to cover eventually. It's just too bad GME isn't actively screwing them over like OSTK did

>> No.23174773

ABEO - Walked out with over 30% gains on this so fuck I can't complain (almost $4000 extra). Just like AMRN, I walked out with almost 4000 extra on that one to. But now that the election is close and the 2nd check bill is dead (22 days till election; unless they move at warp speed it's dead and big fat maybe after the election) the better play is to move over into safer harder hit areas (banks/industrial) and ride out the recovery. Once the vaccine is out people will be blowing money and whatnot like mad.

>> No.23174776

>>23174735
But you'd have a significantly reduced purchasing power since everything will be more expensive.

>> No.23174779

>>23174722
>Rich gets more money
>Buybacks increase
>Stocks blast

>> No.23174788

Wow, robinhood really is dog shit. Top kek @ all the Pajeets.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-09/robinhood-users-had-accounts-looted-say-there-s-no-one-to-call

>> No.23174810

>>23174779
i don't want stocks to blast, i want to be able to have a nice stable job that allows me to afford a house and a family and a decently early retirement and good healthcare. i do this stock shit because the system sucks and im forced to gamble because the world is a fuck.

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>>23174696
>hyperinflation
no

>> No.23174835

>>23174743
I'm sure anon, I'm sure.

>> No.23174836

>>23174763
Wow there really is an anime for everything isn't there?

>> No.23174853

>>23174810
Well that's how the world is, so use the advantage of knowing that the system is flawed instead of bitching about it anon. Also..
>i don't want stocks to blast
Take that back or leave /smg/ right now

>> No.23174855

>>23174830
And yet, prices continue to steadily rise.

>> No.23174856

>>23173747
I'll take a look at HIBL, never knew there was such an etf

>> No.23174870

>>23174788
KEK

>> No.23174914
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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.23174918
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>dividends
>mutual funds
>treasury bonds
>dollar cost averaging
>roth IRA
>401k

>> No.23174922
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>>23174853
what i mean is i wish i just had what the boomers had. but yes, considering the bad timeline we're stuck with, yes i still want stocks to blast, because that's all i can rely on. but i wish it wasn't this way, know what i mean? but since it is this way obviously i want stocks to blast, i just wish i didn't have to worry about that in the first place like boomers didn't have to.

>> No.23174944

>>23174550
15?
Idk that still seems like FUD to me

>> No.23175017

>>23174323
Ultimately I would love to swing trade GME but the poomps are so unpredictable.

1 was RC filing a 13D AH
2 was sudden halting for news in the middle of the day then suddenly we were at $11

And yeah there were pullbacks on both poomp, but thats because shorts are doubling down. When the shorts finally do start to cover... well if you miss it then what was the point?

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>>23174944

>> No.23175034
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>>23174918
Everything but Tbills is my investments...

>> No.23175054

>>23175022
Checked
It’s too late as others have the image but I’ll honor you properly in the next one

>> No.23175076

why do I keep F5ing my portfolio even though I know nothing is happening

>> No.23175108

>>23173033
Lol nice pixels on a screen you fucking idiots. Why don’t you invest in real money like gold and silver

>> No.23175125

>>23175108
Post stack

>> No.23175153

>>23175108
If you have to use gold to trade properly, you’re better off hoarding ammo

>> No.23175155

>>23175108
I do, I have EQX as 10% of my portfolio

>> No.23175157

>>23175108
If precious metals are more than 1% of your portfolio you don’t like making money, you like slowing losing value just below inflation

>> No.23175178

>>23173524
>GameStop spiked over 40% just because they will start using Microsoft software in their stores and they will offer an Xbox bundle??
No. What it did was trigger a bunch of short sellers to finally cut their losses before it gets any worse for them, basically.

I mean make no mistake, this *is* obviously good for them, but under normal market conditions that would look more like a 10% swing, not a fucking 40% one. What's really going on is short sellers getting FUCKED, and it's great.

>> No.23175185

Thursday close: up $2000 for the week
Friday close: down $2500 for the week
Thanks AMD/xilinx leaker for the thursday night report.

>> No.23175191

>>23175178
Except it’s because they are sharing revenue with MS because they get a slice of all gamerpass subscriptions

No shorts have covered yet

>> No.23175206

>>23175157
i'm at 3% gold just in case china and the yuan take over, but i do consider selling it fairly often

>> No.23175220

>>23175178
i feel like part of it also is algos reading the headline and buying. kinda makes me want to look into other headlines mentioning major corporations making deals/partnerships with some other small company and seeing what sort of correlation there is with at least a temporary spike in stock price.

like they just saw "Gamestop Microsoft Partnership" and activated the buy program. no idea how i could get a live feed of news sources like that coming up though.

>> No.23175227

>>23174559
>regsho numbers
This fucking moron again.
First off regulation sho does not mean what you think it means. Yes it has a provision in it exempting MM from naked shorting penalties for a longer period of time (t+6) if its due to market making duties, but nobody calls intraday short volumes "regsho numbers".

Second off nobody here is working off thr intraday short volume. Go look at the exchange reported SI. We got 9/30 yesterday. 68 M short off 65 M outstanding.
Actual experts in the field like Ihor from S3 of Thomas Barton from Whitrock admit the situation is highly unusual and prime for a squeeze.

>> No.23175256

>>23173981
This guy understands. They're going to have a long period after their permit goes through where they're not really doing anything. Bear in mind that they still need to get permitted on a state and local level, but those are peanuts compared to going through the USACE.

So realistically, you probably have a good 3 PnDs (one major, aka this Fall, then a couple littler ones), then a long lull of crabbing until it starts producing, prone to manipulation due to random tweets or kike journalist headlines, and then it will start producing and go to 30-50x its first quarter, more likely than not.

>> No.23175258

>>23175157
>metals
>losing value faster than inflation

>> No.23175264

Did TSLA have more retail shorts than GME?

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>>23173473
so what you're saying is i can still make a huge return before the ship sinks

>> No.23175272

>>23175178
If a stock is undervalued 25% and a announcement is made that increases NPV by 5%, a +30% move over 2 days makes sense in this context

No shorts have covered. They continue to double down

>> No.23175314

>>23175227
see >>23174667
Nobody wants it to squeeze. Gamestop is primed for acquiring, not squeezing.

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looks like there's a lot of bagholders in the 14's now, kek.

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Do you think theyre gonna spike to 250-300 again?

>> No.23175321

Another hit piece by shorters
https://apple.news/AxaizShyfQ5GRG6KTTYStaQ

>> No.23175346

>>23174788
Alright thats it, opening up a webull account. I could stand the shitty interface, I could tolerate the faggot limited market hours, but that's absurd.

>> No.23175347

>>23175314
They own or rent the land their stores are on?

>> No.23175353

>>23173820
Interactive brokers

>> No.23175362

>>23173473
>To generate income, in 1713 the company was granted a monopoly (the Asiento de Negros) to supply African slaves to the islands in the "South Seas" and South America.[4] When the company was created, Britain was involved in the War of the Spanish Succession and Spain and Portugal controlled most of South America. There was thus no realistic prospect that trade would take place, and as it turned out, the Company never realised any significant profit from its monopoly. However, Company stock rose greatly in value as it expanded its operations dealing in government debt, and peaked in 1720 before suddenly collapsing to little above its original flotation price. The notorious economic bubble thus created, which ruined thousands of investors, became known as the South Sea Bubble.

>The Bubble Act 1720 (6 Geo I, c 18), which forbade the creation of joint-stock companies without royal charter, was promoted by the South Sea Company itself before its collapse.

>In Great Britain, many investors were ruined by the share-price collapse, and as a result, the national economy diminished substantially. The founders of the scheme engaged in insider trading, by using their advance knowledge of the timings of national debt consolidations to make large profits from purchasing debt in advance. Huge bribes were given to politicians to support the Acts of Parliament necessary for the scheme.[5] Company money was used to deal in its own shares, and selected individuals purchasing shares were given cash loans backed by those same shares to spend on purchasing more shares. The expectation of profits from trade with South America was talked up to encourage the public to purchase shares, but the bubble prices reached far beyond what the actual profits of the business (namely the slave trade) could justify.[6]

neat. also reminder this was the stock that financially ruined isaac newton.

>> No.23175368

>>23175314
An acquisition would *trigger* a squeeze because it would require a share recall for voting.

Do some research and stop talking out of your ass

>> No.23175386

>>23175017
that's why i also held in case there was a 13D Friday afterhours

i mean in the end, we're all up massively, guess there's no sense in crying over the +20% scalping opportunity any longer

>> No.23175399

>>23175346
Webull is shit. High margins and limited trading time too. You want Interactive Brokers if you want pre 7am pre market trading.

>> No.23175402

>>23175347
Long term rent mall space, but that's more of a liability.
They have a large list of high spending gamers members of their programs, you want to "buy" these customers.

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anyone else comfy?

>> No.23175410

>>23175368
microsoft buys out gamestop. imagine it for a second. it would be beautiful.

>> No.23175421

>>23173033
What’s the story of the Rothschild using Napoleons defeat at Waterloo to massively increase his wealth?

>> No.23175436

Someone here shorting January no deal brexit?

>> No.23175445

>>23175386
>that's why i also held in case there was a 13D Friday afterhours

Me too fren, I really thought there would be another 13D and/or that shorts would panic and close out to avoid holding overweekend with the potential of a 13D

Ah well, Im honestly in awe of the shorts. Happy not to be on the side with unlimited risk.

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>>23173477
>You clearly do not have enough of a grasp of them

>> No.23175466

>>23174169
anon... not if people think it's temporary

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>>23175362
>>23173473
Imagine the local bulletin board

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>diversification

>> No.23175477

>>23175316
Yes ;_;
there more people bought GME than in its previous peak of 57 dollars

fact that so many people bought and it only moved up 3 dollar kinda....

>> No.23175493

>>23175468
>should have put a stop loss retard

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I’m thinking about switching to using tick charts. What number of ticks would replace 1m, 5m, 15m, 30m, 1H, 4H charts?

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>>23174126
>GME

Not if I have anything to say about it hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehe

>> No.23175550

New strat for me:
Buy the rumor, sell the news, wait a day and buy again because the stock was oversold by "buy the rumor sell the news"-traders.

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Anons, I bought WKHS at 26.22 yesterday, feeling comfy at the moment. My question is though, after learning my lesson re: "buy the rumour sell the news" all the time, how much should I offload on monday before close, if any? It seems reasonable it might pump another 5% regardless of contract outcome, but I need to get better at managing my risk, and this USPS thing is gonna be hella binary. Would prefer to walk away with 10% in a couple days than to get bogged. How certain are we that they're gonna win?

>> No.23175587

>>23175477
you'd be insane not to take profits on an unexpected pump like this, it's only natural. the only question is how low will it drop before it goes even higher, because it WILL go higher it's just a matter of when.

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>Biked a to a forest last night, chugged a shit ton of rum, wait a few hours and then went home so I could get in trouble with my parents and they'd think I went to a party and have friends.

My stocks went up a lot friday tho so I count friday as a win.

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23175667

Accumulate PLTR

>> No.23175689

>>23175511
you post this cunny too much, I know you have other stuff on your coom folder

>> No.23175697
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I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe

>> No.23175722

>>23173473
BASED

>> No.23175734

>>23175697
I hope coom cat becomes something bigger than just GME related, otherwise it's just gonna die.

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>>23173473
>he's mad he hasn't profited from TSLA

>> No.23175834

>>23174505
dont do it

>> No.23175843

>>23174767
>>23174581
>i forgot I was trading GME, not OSTK with a CEO who's actively screwing over short sellers
Someone should shoot the (former) OSTK ceo an email or tweet him and let him know what is going on

>Imagine a 13D AH from Patrick Byrne

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All of the virtue signaling, silicon valley soiboy FUD has actually made me interested in Palantir, like pic related. Peter Theil is one of the few VCs there that isn't part of the arrogant liberal tech herd and he's been ostracized for being "controversial".

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>>23175587

Why do these anons have to be so greedy. I just can't understand it for the life of me. Many of you got lucky and made a 30 or 40 percent profit and didn't sell when the stock was dropping like a rock.

It makes no sense. None of you had any justification behind the trade except for memes. The stock jumped 60% on news that all of you know essentially comes down to them using tablets and office 365 products. The profit sharing value is estimated to offset around a 3rd of the cost, its tens of millions but wont get them net positive.

You all should really read the news articles at the time about the revamping of JC Penny. These re-imagining are a speculators play ground but they almost never work long term. Ackman tried it with JC Penny, people attempted it with Toys R Us (which has arguably much higher value of intangibles), even at one time people were talking about it with Radio Shack.

It never works out. There is a world of difference between Cohen taking on a spin off digital native company and making it huge, and transforming and aging retailer in the most easily digitizable market and making it internet based.

Their whole sales model is aincent, power up rewards, game informer magazine, trade in of physical disks, etc. You would struggle to find a less valuable biz model in the current marketplace.

GME, its assets, and the company are worth less than nothing, and I really hope anons don't lose an opportunity to take some profit after a once a year lucky break.

>> No.23175886

a

>> No.23175891

>>23175866
t. shorter

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the only things i have shares in are

>AAL
>KR
>SIRI

r8 my meme stocks

>> No.23175917

>>23175855
all those tech co are beyond fucked, massive anti-trust is a done deal against FB, GOOG, AMZN, and TWTR

>> No.23175936

>>23175866
>2 posts by this ID
>It makes no sense. None of you had any justification behind the trade except for memes.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i wonder who is behind this post

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>>23175697
Coom with me~
and you'll see~
a world of pure ejaculation!

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>>23173473
>red wojacks

>> No.23175974
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Carl has really cucked himself out in the last few months. He used to be based

>> No.23175979

>>23175936
Not a single person has given me a justification behind holding GME. Please go ahead, I'm waiting. Tell me why Cohen will keep acquiring the longest of long shots when trades like this have burned veterans left and right. Even if he pulls it off, what does he have left to make, 2x, 2.5x ? Why wouldn't he also want to sink it back down to 3$ before he starts buying in again?

>> No.23175985

FUCK TRUMP

>> No.23176004

>>23173160
I bought 55 shares at $16.16. All I'm willing to risk on it, right now.

>> No.23176026

>>23175974
you cannot deny that the white house has a shit ton of covid cases

>> No.23176040

>>23175979
im not spoonfeeding you anymore you lazy retard
i already shilled the DD so much the last month

stay OBSESSED over gamestop lol

>> No.23176051

>>23176026
We got the greatest covid cases, we got covid cases like you wouldn't believe, they're fantastic, the best, covid cases like you couldn't even imagine

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>>23175974
i noticed that as well and unfollowed him on the tweeters. squawk box with Joe is my favorite show on tv.

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>>23175985
I voted for trump

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>>23176026
>>23176051
>When you notice the media and headlines stop shilling "covid deaths" because the fucking flu has bigger numbers and transitions into "covid cases"

>> No.23176080

>>23175985
Did he post a bearish tweet again?

>> No.23176081

>>23175979
>>23174126

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>>23176071

>> No.23176102

>>23176040
Exactly.

You can't. Whatever hold IDC. The second that it dips on monday, everyone will dump it anyway. Godspeed GMEtard. You got too greedy.

>> No.23176105

>>23176071
the flu did not have more cases than covid in america

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in: 39 to 56 million illnesses. 410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations. 24,000 to 62,000 deaths

>> No.23176116

>>23175368
Short covering can raise share price above the offered buy out price. This obviously is a disaster and whoever is buying will try to not squeeze.

>>23175667
PLTR is a $10 stock. Perfectly evaluated, need news to move. It may crab for years.

>> No.23176125

>>23176105
deaths*

>> No.23176132

>>23176081
Same shit different day. Re read the JC Penny and Toys R Us case studies and news articles. Do that, then tell me GME is any different. Good luck to you all.

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>>23173661
Volatility is the point, I went all in with a stop loss on my avearge if shit goes maxium south I will be down around 6k if shit goes maximum north 1 million in 5-10 years is not entirely imposible. With NAK's aprooval/Trumps re election could send it past 5 hell NAK has been up to 3 because of Jewish pump and dumps enlighten me on why this isnt a good investment for a degenerate gambler such as myself?

>> No.23176153

>>23175974
>a senior Republican official said
>"which Republican official?"
>"just, you know... one of them... they said it, really they did. just trust me bro."

i don't get journalism these days. feels like they can say whatever they want and no one can really stop them.

>"Trump actually sucks dicks", a senior Republican official said. "Of course he's going to wear a tutu while doing it. 'It's okay as long as i wear a dress, im a girl!' Meanwhile, i touch little kids every day."

>> No.23176164

Right I've downloaded Trading212 and I've never invested or bought shares before. Is there a go-to for absolute beginners?

>> No.23176165

Apple’s time has come again.

>> No.23176166

>>23174428
I’ve made quite a bit flipping it for 10-20% every time it spikes and buying back when it goes down but I understand anons who are holding as well. At this point my real cost basis is absurdly low even if I buy at 11$. At some point I will retain at least a portion just in case it actually gets squeezed buy I’m usually a bird in the hand kind if guy desu.

>> No.23176168

>>23175979
Why would I sell?

GME poomps like a hot air baloon on every piece of good news, and this stock has nothing but good news in the pipeline until at least december.

Sure the shorts are holding on for now, but one of these spikes is gonna be the straw that broke the camels back.

And whats my risk? My cost basis is $8. $5 is bankrupcy pricing for gamestop (net cash/book value). Its the most assymetrically based play ever

>> No.23176177

>>23176100
>>23176105
Now do the one where you tell me why shoveling old people into a retirement home together with other covid cases and listing every cause of death as "covid" even in cases where the dead individual was shot with a fucking gun for months straight did not artificially inflate the dead count.

>> No.23176187

>>23176102
>Exactly.
can you blame me? why would i give a shit about someone who blatantly omits certain info
it's just hilarious how obsessed you are over gamestop

post proof of a postion in Gamestop and i'll answer you seirously.
if you can't do that, then surely you can understand why im poking fun at you because it's pathetic to be obsessed over a pick when you don't even have a position for or against it
Like are you just jealous some retards on /smg/ got lucky and made +100% gains?

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>>23175985
ebin post

>> No.23176223

>>23176116
It doesn't matter. Its a math problem at this point. Shares have to be recalled for a tender offer and there are more shares short than outstanding (let alone the public float)

Plus a common point of speculation is that Ryan intends to use squeeze profits to finance his acquisition. Thats why hes gone oh so close to 10% but not reached it - to avoid the insider clawback rule

>> No.23176243

>>23176105
Arbitrary classification; who cares. If you can't determine numbers have been elevated for funding even when covid cases are counted because of deaths on ladder falls and motorcycle accidents, you're beyond help.

>> No.23176267

>>23175153
texas is building/allowing gold backed grouped accounts if someone wants to take the risk they could start a bank backed by gold audited by the texas comptroller and protected by texan state troopers and private security

>> No.23176268

>>23173652
Dude russle up around 5-10k that you can afford to lose and try again. Also lurk before posting your just going to get laughed at.

>> No.23176288

post new thread

>> No.23176301

Long as you bail with your bags stuffed before the shit hits the fan why should you care what happens after... (GME - chapter 11). Take your profits and jump on something else. Greed is good. Excess greed can cause pain. Which is better a 30% or more gain or a 50%+ loss...

>> No.23176320

>>23176267
Based
Although you’d probably get assassinated

>> No.23176329

>>23173091
Who are you people talking to? I have that post filtered.

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23176354

How do I invest in a Negative Interest Rate environment?

Canada is going that route like in Japan and Europe. Someone please help me out. I'm getting very spooked after hearing the news today.

>> No.23176359

>>23176177
Im simply just pointing out that "the media and headlines" wouldn't stop shilling "covid deaths" because the flu has bigger numbers since official death rates show that covid is deadlier than the flu. Which is what the post I replied to claimed.

>> No.23176377

>>23176329
iHazMillions

>> No.23176381

>>23176359
>falling for goalpostmoving
lmao the guy obviously doesnt give a fuck.

>> No.23176400

>>23176354
what's the news?

>> No.23176440

>>23175967
Shamelessly stolen.

>> No.23176486

>>23176354
Get a mortgage and you gain money on the money the bank loaned out to you.

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>>23176440
make sure to put a watermark on your epic memes before you post them. Here's a good one for you.

>> No.23176516

>>23176301
The newer buy ins seem to actually believe all the fundamental stories they post over at SA. If you were in this trade from the start it was always a gamble until January latest, nothing more.

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>>23175908
weak

>> No.23176552

>>23176528
what should i add

>> No.23176578

>>23176516
December latest, even. Not sure the holiday sales reports are worth waiting on.
I was in on November squeeze, not sure anymore. But even fundamentally GME is a $10-$12 stock. Nobody will be holding heavy bags here.

>> No.23176588

>>23176400

https://youtu.be/LhOjXVOVVhA?t=653

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-08/bank-of-canada-keeps-door-open-to-possibility-of-negative-rates

>> No.23176693

>>23176588
kek

>> No.23176712

I think the plan with GME is to buy every dip.

>> No.23176715

>>23176187
>Like are you just jealous some retards on /smg/ got lucky and made +100% gains?

They haven't made anything until they have cashed out (but you would probably call them idiots for doing so), and a lot of people bought above $12.

I'd say, unless you got in early and have already cashed out, GameStop has burned you.

>inb4 average buy-in at $5

>> No.23176728

>>23176578
my plan is to only trim by Q3 if the short interest is still massive, i really doubt it will squeeze by November since it's very clear institution is not going to cover from hype rally alone
The MSFT partnership has made longing GME even safer, waiting for a surprise Q4 earnings might be worthwhile considering the expecations are so low given the previous Q4

share buybacks and re-introducing dividends is what we need. Problem is, GME doesn't give a shit about taking advantage of short sellers at all, probably much to Burry's dismay which is why he fucked off and trimmed his position

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>Pelosi dismisses latest White House coronavirus aid offer

>> No.23176808

>>23174776
No he wouldn't because he's hitching his car to the tow truck that is the globalhomo megacorporations, who will beat inflation.

Inflation kills the purchasing power of the average normie who doesn't have money in tangible assets or stocks. Your federal reserve notes are less valuable, so as long as you're turning those federal reserve notes into items of actual value as soon as possible, you're fine.

>> No.23176810

linking this faggot's thread because he's too lazy to do it himself apparently
>>23176612
>>23176612
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>>23176805
*teleports behind you*

psssshhhtt nothin personnel kid....

>> No.23176830

>>23176510
I hate watermarked memes and go out of my way to remove them or find one that isn’t watermarked. I will never post a watermarked meme honestly. So if you ever want a chance for your meme to be posted by me, I’d opt to not watermark it.

>> No.23176917

>>23176715
>inb4 average buy-in at $5
nah my buy-in is more like mid $7 because I averaged up. Who gives a shit about FOMO retards who only bought in after a fucking month, that doesn't invalidate the play

either way I have my price alerts at $11 to see if I need to reassess the situation, gap was between $9 and $11. Why wouldn't I just ride the wave up at this point when I'm so comfortably green in my position? It's not like GME will go down to its liquidation value $6 overnight, that's fucking retarded. The MSFT news only make the bankruptcy possibility even more minuscule

im not against scalping, frankly im tempted to start doing it, but it's easier for me to just move on with the rest of my life and just set price alerts instead of babysitting GME. I have an exit strategy I already decided on from the beginning, it's a matter of gambling between making a small profit vs big profit now