$140mil liquidity Vampired off Balancer to Value Liquid (YFV) to become 3rd Largest Dex :P

[Pepe Soros No.23093255]

12 hours ago YFV carried out it's vampire attack on Balancer to drain off $140mil of liquidity from Balancer.

This makes them the 3rd largest Dex by TVL - but still under the radar, not on defipulse.

If you give Balancer a P/E ratio of 40x (as some have) then using the same calculations you can give YFV (now I should say VALUE (2 tokens, both same with a 1-1 swap *expect YFV to be archived and all moved to VALUE soon) a P/E ratio of only 1.8x lol - this is because of a depressed token price now of $4.5 (an all time low).

Imo low due to being under the radar. Ill break down future value accrual and how it can/should be 10x+ higher in the future but in short: 0.05% trading fees from its DEX and 6.67% from farming/vault activities buying up VALUE to distribute to governance vault holders.

Balancer is stifled by ineffective governance, has no value accrual to BAL holders, whereas VALUE token is almost fully issued, have cut their farming emmissions down, and dropped the full circulating token amount from 15mil to 7.8mil.

Also a strong anon team (will get into speculation on this in the future too - but are they KNC devs (thats the rumor), or are they tied to Huboi (listed on Huboi in 1st week of launch lol) or Poloniex (Polo extremely responsive in listing VALUE on launch date and auto swapping all YFV tokens to VALUE)

TLDR: under the radar gem, 3rd largest dex, but not only a dex, a mix of dex + farms + vaults (YFI), and even within the vaults an ability to faster switch between farms to target highest yields. You're going to be hearing a LOT more about VALUE over the next few months...

valuedefi .io
t .me/ValueDeFi

[Amin No.23093493]

though I am a invester in this, wait for the dump to complete, it should stabilize around $3-$4 then jump in

[Anonymous No.23093553]

>>23093255
People who think Value/yfv is dead are mistaken. This thing will start flying like other defi coins.

[Anonymous No.23093709]

Thank you OP I feel better about my liquidity position now. It's pretty comfy.

[Pepe Soros No.23093789]

>>23093493
Thats what everyone is saying tho... so it won't actually reach that.

BAL has a $110mil market cap with circulating coins and $258mil cap fully diluted.

YFV + VALUE combined = approx $27mil cap circulating , and around $35mil fully diluted.

So, yeh, lol, they have the same range of TVL, but Value has 0.05% fees buying VALUE and 6.67% of all vault farming too.
I don't think it's going to hit $3 ;)

[Pepe Soros No.23094148]

[pic related] team would be known if not anon ;)

[Anonymous No.23094182]

>>23093789
>So, yeh, lol, they have the same range of TVL, but Value has 0.05% fees buying VALUE and 6.67% of all vault farming too.
Don’t forget about Flexible Farming. When Flexible Farming launches Value holders will even profit off liquidity that’s outside of Value Liquid. That’s going to be the real game changer here.

[Anonymous No.23094496]

Core looks safer

[Pepe Soros No.23094528]

>>23094182
Yes, theres a LOT of value coming to VALUE lol.
Not farming yet but they already have the flexible VAULTS, so right now they are farming KFC and GOLFF at decent profit, under the radar, benefiting vault stakers and governance vault holders with 6.67% of profit buying VALUE and giving it to them :)

[Pepe Soros No.23094536]

>>23094496
lol, imagine buying core near its top

[Anonymous No.23095231]

>>23093255
I hate this fucking coin, it's waiting for me to capitulate and then it will take off.

[Anonymous No.23095243]

>>23095231

I feel the same way and if we don't capitulate then it will just dump to nothing. It will literally only pump if I personally sell lmao.

[Anonymous No.23095612]

doesnt mean anything. you are all running straight into a honey pot. good riddance, based andre deanonymizing criminals and delivering their capital straight to the marshals

[Pepe Soros No.23095739]

>>23095612
^ he got rekt. buy his bloooooddddd ;)

[Anonymous No.23095749]

>>23093789
And yet the token price isn't going up. What's the explanation? The market doesn't know, or the market doesn't care?

[Anonymous No.23095854]

>>23093255
I cant even access the site, am at work. Do i have to do anything as a farmer?
> t. all in link all in farming value

[Anonymous No.23095904]

[Anonymous No.23096230]

>>23095854
ffrens?

[Anonymous No.23096475]

Can someone explain how the maximum supply got decided?
I remember there was a vote to limit to max supply to 2 million value?
It was being voted overwhelmingly in favour for.
Now the max supply is 7 million?
Why did token holders vote for a higher supply?

[Anonymous No.23096491]

>>23096230
hi fren, we're going to make it.

[Anonymous No.23097183]

>>23096475
7m is included with the yfv that will dissapear into value, so is 3m i think

[Pepe Soros No.23097257]

>>23096475
>Can someone explain how the maximum supply got decided?
>I remember there was a vote to limit to max supply to 2 million value?
>It was being voted overwhelmingly in favour for.
>Now the max supply is 7 million?
>Why did token holders vote for a higher supply?

It was *wanted to be 2m . but at that point there was already 2.7m in existence / scheduled to be released. they kinda capped YFV to be the minimum they could - around 4mil, and then released VALUE with a 3mil supply.

think i have that the right way around but either way, combined there are 7.6 or so mil total (and expect YFV to just get axed and they have everyone move over to VALUE - it can do more, more flexible contracts, changing farming and pools quicker with it etc

So now, final supply mechanics are known , 7.6mil total supply (down from 15mil it was previously going to be, which is down from 21m where it started, there was a big 5mil burn)

.>>23095749
>And yet the token price isn't going up. What's the explanation? The market doesn't know, or the market doesn't care?

Under the radar - ^ like that with the supply with two tokens, it is confusing, only people really following the project know this. Same with things like not being on defi pulse yet etc, its just not on people's radars, yet there is $140mil on their dex and $30mil in their vaults/farms farming UNI and CREAM and others. This is where u buy ;)

[Anonymous No.23097343]

Does anybody know if okex will do automatic swap to value?

[Anonymous No.23097565]

>>23097343
Nvm just asked customer support myself apparently no plans yet for coin swap..

[Anonymous No.23097587]

Is it reasonable to expect at lest $25 for token again?

[Anonymous No.23097725]

>>23097587
Yes, yes it is. If it would be 25$ we would be around the same mcap as Balancer. And seeing as how they are trying to be a better Balancer, 25$ is very doable.

[Anonymous No.23097754]

>>23097257
I don't fully understand how this all works though
If you can swap YFV 1:1 for Value and people have also been farming the entire supply of Value for the past weeks
Then doesn't that mean the fully supply is all the current Value supply + the swapped YFV tokens?
If so isn't that 7 million Value tokens?
Seems like total bullshit that they ever suggested it could / would be 2 million total supply.

[Pepe Soros No.23097858]

>>23097587
>Is it reasonable to expect at lest $25 for token again?

yeh this is reasonable target to be level with Balancer. But then they are YFI too, can do everything they do, and they are, can move faster even. Their beta vaults are live and capped at $10m each and they are all full. Wait till they pull in a few $100mil too and 6.67% of all farming profits go to buy VALUE and distribute it to VALUE stakers in the governance vault... then sky is the limit.

[Pepe Soros No.23097893]

>>23097754
>I don't fully understand how this all works though
>If you can swap YFV 1:1 for Value and people have also been farming the entire supply of Value for the past weeks
>Then doesn't that mean the fully supply is all the current Value supply + the swapped YFV tokens?
>If so isn't that 7 million Value tokens?
>Seems like total bullshit that they ever suggested it could / would be 2 million total supply

Yes, full diluted supply when all live will be 7.6mil total - so 3+4 . and basically, it hasnt been said yet but I'd just bet that YFV will be archived off - all payments are in VALUE, this IS value now, they even rebranded now so it isn't even YFV Finance anymore , it is "Value DeFi" , so expect 1-1 swap to be heavily pushed and basically to the point where there is no usage for YFV so its all value - this is just an interim period where they both exist but VALUE can have a total 7.6mil supply then thats it.

Also emissions from pools/farming are slowing down now so less future emmission coming.

[Anonymous No.23097910]

Stupid gov pool has stopped emitting VALUE, we're going to $1.

[Anonymous No.23098064]

>>23093255
HAHAHAHHAHA i love how the new logo is representing how rekt all the holders became. Very apt

[Retard No.23098551]

>>23097910
Its a bug being fixed, those who exited during the bug will get VALUE as airdrop

[po No.23098906]

>>23093255
based, I unitonically bought 5k VALUE

[Anonymous No.23098966]

>>23098906
Based, I just bought more too at the 4$ bottom. We're gonna make it, our patience will be rewarded.

[Anonymous No.23099038]

>>23093255
Pretty og yfv holder here. Still have some value and a lot of veth/vusd, but I shamefully sold my yfv at around $8. Going back in big within the next few days though when vaults are updated to accept VALUE. Although it is a meme, few understand what the yfv team is actually trying to do here.

[Anonymous No.23099122]

>>23093255
is this anything like the payment options on fuse.io?

[Anonymous No.23099131]

>>23099038
You might not want to wait much longer, 4$ seems to be the bottom, I dont see it going much lower. But then again, I probably thought that 20x already on this coin.

[Anonymous No.23099168]

>>23099131
$0 is the bottom

[Anonymous No.23099169]

>>23099131
I don't and it probably is. My plans were kind of set back a couple days, but if I was in a position to right now, I'd definitely be buying

[Anonymous No.23099431]

Nice.

[Anonymous No.23100190]

Hope it keeps dropping and stays low so I have time to line up another buy.
t. Buying since $75, avg basis at $16

[Anonymous No.23100259]

>>23100190
same anon. starting buying at 16. accumulated a bit more at 8 and 6 but tempted to go in for more.

[Anonymous No.23100306]

You got any more information on this? Never even heard of YFV.

[Pepe Soros No.23100527]

>>23100306
Yes :P $163mil TVL in dex.
$3m trading today.

https://valueliquid.info/

[Anonymous No.23100577]

Yeah, I'm buying.

[Anonymous No.23100643]

>>23093255
Really undervalued token at the moment, yield farming aggregation and DEX AMM with plenty of liquidity

[Anonymous No.23100687]

>>23095854
What a chad. I can't bring myself to go all in farming. 4K Link is enough, though I might put in another 2K Link to farm. I only planned on putting in as much as I'm willing to buy back the Link from the 2% swap, but now I'm convinced this project will blow up faster than Link so I can buy back and grow my stacks. It just took a while to come to terms with Impermanent Loss, seeing my Linkies get drained while farming hurts so bad >_>

[Anonymous No.23101010]

Whats the diff between YFV and VALUE? Which do I buy?

[Anonymous No.23101142]

I don't get it at all. Why has the tokens price collapsed so much?

[Anonymous No.23101218]

>>23101142
>VALUE
Because no new money is coming into crypto.

[Anonymous No.23101228]

>>23101218
So VALUE is just rebranded YFV right, and YFV will be swapped for VALUE 1:1 at some point? Which should I buy, or doesn't it really matter because they are both cheap?

[Anonymous No.23101467]

personally i am all in
100$ eom

[Anonymous No.23101548]

>>23101467
I'd be very happy with 25$ eom and 50$+ eoy

[Pepe Soros No.23101574]

>>23101010
expect them just to merge and yfv disappear, you can 1-1 swap. [pic related] - heres the full info article on the 2 tokens: https://medium.com/@valuedefi/faq-yfv-and-value-migration-af3a5a5c2190

[Anonymous No.23101692]

>>23101574
so where do i swap 'm... uniswap?

[Pepe Soros No.23102100]

>>23101692
there is liquidity on uniswap but there is an actual swap widget on the website to get full swap ("wrap") at any amount: https://valuedefi.io/wrap

[Anonymous No.23102769]

what happens when the value rewards stop for the pools? what's the reason to stay in the pools?

[Anonymous No.23102813]

>>23102769
It will transition to a liquidity provider system much like uniswap

[Anonymous No.23103034]

NO DONT BUY THIS, I ALREADY SOLD PLS DONT MOON WITHOUT ME NOW. I REFUSE TO DOUBLE DIP

[Anonymous No.23103075]

>>23103034
Lmao, you have plenty of time left.

[Anonymous No.23103431]

>>23097893
I think what happened was community voted to limit yfv’s supply at 2m but the team burned their keys so they could not implement the wanted change. Then they had to introduce value.

I think at some point they will get rid of yfv completely and have value with 2m supply max. That is the only way we can see a big pump. Otherwise it will be ridiculously difficult to see $80 levels again

[Anonymous No.23103722]

how many bottoms does this piece of shit have?

[Anonymous No.23103794]

>>23103431
I think that 25$ to 50$ range is realistic

Higher if it is a bull market again overall

[Anonymous No.23104405]

>>23093255

Its not under the radar. Everyone knows about VALUE. No one cares at this price. I will buy some at $1.

[Anonymous No.23104436]

>>23103722

Theres no such thing as bottom just holes

[Anonymous No.23104465]

>>23093255
why is apy tanking bros?

[Anonymous No.23105074]

>>23093255

[Anonymous No.23105189]

>>23103794
$50 would be nice honestly.

[Anonymous No.23105293]

>>23093255
I hold my yfv in huobi. Will they migrate them for me automatically into value or I have to do it myself?

[Anonymous No.23105350]

>>23105293
>>23105189
when is YFV liquidity to be switched to value?

[Anonymous No.23105557]

I love this project but I must call the Devs out on something.

This is the new sight.
https://valuedefi.io/

Going to anything that was connected to YFV.finance is a dead link.
It is actually quite difficult to find the new site https://valuedefi.io/

WTF havent the Devs set up an Auto redirect to the new site?
That is fucked up.
Id bring it up in the forum but thats a dead link as well.
Cmon

[Anonymous No.23105760]

>>23093255
How much is the roi for Link staking?

[Anonymous No.23105985]

>>23105557
yfv.finance redirects to valuedefi.io nigger

[Anonymous No.23106000]

I am financially justed

[Anonymous No.23106059]

>>23106000
Checked, rekt and kekked

[Anonymous No.23106066]

>>23093255
I'm farming on this and holding the VALUE tokens even through impermanent loss, I hope I don't get JUSTed.....

[Anonymous No.23106264]

>>23105760
Swings. Right now 50%. A week ago 110%

[Anonymous No.23106463]

Pic related.
In the middle box [YFV Price]
Today it is
$4.23(9.47 LEND)

yesterday it was
$YFV ($DAI)

Is this to do with seeking max yeilds?

[Anonymous No.23106494]

>>23106463
it's because 12h ago the migration from balancer onto native VALUE liquidity pools has been done. the YFV token is being phased out for VALUE, check the roadmap

[Anonymous No.23106529]

>>23106494
More asking about the DAI yesterday and LEND
today?

I am well aware of whats going on with the tockenomics.

[Anonymous No.23106557]

What do I do with my YFV on a CEX? Will they automatically transfer over?

[Anonymous No.23106708]

>>23106529
ah i see, i don't know about that anon, what even is the LEND token?

>>23106557
no they won't. stop using centralized exchanges like it's 2016, there are better options now

[Anonymous No.23107220]

>>23106529
refresh the page a few times, it changes. i think it just picks one of the currencies in the pools randomly. don't know why.

[Anonymous No.23107721]

>>23105350
They already stopped issuing rewards for gov vault for yfv. Gov vault v2 will be available this week as per their October roadmap. https://link.medium.com/AfGdC3gDoab

[Anonymous No.23107769]

https://spherum.org/

The High Yield Farming protocol
What you see is what you get: there is no premine, no admin minting powers, and no backdoors.

[Anonymous No.23107986]

>>23093255
>If you give Balancer a P/E ratio of 40x
why?

[Anonymous No.23108352]

>>23107721
It’s unironically over.

[Anonymous No.23108407]

Is buying the farming token a mistake? Should I farm it with wEth instead? I am only putting about 2 eth in. Buying the pure token it could do an easy 2x-3x if the project improves couldn't it?

[Anonymous No.23108454]

>>23108407
There’s no reason to hold this token now after the roadmap updates. Nobody can give me one reason VALUE has any value right now. V2 gov rewards are getting cut, you’re better off farming and dumping.

[Anonymous No.23109777]

I dumped this shit boys, sorry.
Feels good to not wake up every day and see my money being syphoned away by vampire bots.

[Anonymous No.23109921]

>>23109777
Same here anon. I gave them up till they dropped the October roadmap, it’s clear they have no direction though.

[Anonymous No.23109949]

>>23109921

what do you mean no direction. Its clear after the Oct road map they have more direction and are looking far into the future to retain their TVL

[Anonymous No.23110057]

>>23109949
Yes all this TVL that’s great, but what’s the value for holders of the actual token? Gov v2 pool is getting slashed for no reason. There’s no plans for vUSD and vETH so they’re just delaying the inevitable of further farming till this token approaches zero. I’m still going to farm and dump because they made it the most viable strategy instead of supporting the holders.

[Anonymous No.23110252]

>>23108454

Wait, is it just me or it is hard to see that VALUE is even valuable now?

Check this out on just WETH Vault farm
Once they remove the cap, as long as more people are trying to farm VALUE with weth
The 6.7% profit goes to buying back of VALUE and redistributed to the Value gov staker

Doesn't this add in Value?

Followed by a USDT based balancer they created
Balancer listed USDT as bad erc-20
Its fine because Value Liquid will do it
People might say, they are new, how would they get volume?
Dex aggregators
They are talk in progress with 1inch and some sneak peak, they are building their own dex aggregator and the fees will be profit for Value gov staker too

Doesn't this add in Value?

If that's not enough, check this out
>Profit from farming strategies will be auto-compounded

>Locking VALUE in the vault for an extra period of time will boost VALUE yield

>Governance Vault v2 will support multiple strategy farming as well, our state-of-the-art farming innovation

Not sure if i am being biased, but their October roadmap is a detailed plan and journey
Me and my friend literally bought $5,000 worth of VALUE on the roadmap update

[Anonymous No.23110290]

>>23110252
Based and IYKYK-pilled

[Anonymous No.23110364]

>>23110252
I have no doubt from a platform perspective they’ll find success. But why hold this token today, right now? It’s clear it’s going lower and will continue to do so until inflation is done.

[Anonymous No.23110381]

>>23110364
I personally bought at 4$ today because I felt it was the bottom, its 4.30$ now so my instinct was right, for now. If you think it will go lower you can wait until Value is completely farmed, sure.

[Anonymous No.23110413]

>>23110252
based af

[Anonymous No.23110483]

I think they will continue extending Value farming "due to popular demand" to prop up their tvl.
Token holders will be relentlessly JUSTed, I can see it already.
>heh just another 4 days
>1 more week, seriously
>2 more weeks, I promise
>just 1 million more, think of the tvl goyim
Yeah, these cunts can get fucked.

[Anonymous No.23110641]

Don't think I'm some paid fudder either, I bought this shitcoin all the way down from $12 to $5.50
They will justify the "popular demand" by demonstrating where most of the money is locked farming Value. Holders will be JUSTed beyond belief, this will go below $1

[Anonymous No.23110644]

>>23110483

But Isn't the total emissions of VALUE still same, just the period of farming became longer

The changes definitely benefits VALUE staker and it reduce selling pressure from farmer (bad for farmer unless price went up)

[Anonymous No.23110696]

>>23110644
They will keep extending it

[Anonymous No.23110735]

>>23110644
They will change that, I bet you my left nut anon. They couldn't give a shit about holders of the token.

[Anonymous No.23110800]

>>23110735
They really don’t. Trust me I’ve been holding a while, the main play was to integrate vUSD and vETH and I thought there was a plan there. But it’s clear it’s going to get delayed until 2021 when VALUE is completely diluted.

[Anonymous No.23110873]

This so called vampire attack left us with less TVL than the day before LMAO.

[Anonymous No.23110874]

>>23110800
Kek I even tried using their shitty value liquid swap to cash out my worthless vUSD & vETH
It took my vUSD, I never received the Value I swapped it for, and I couldn't do anything at all with the vETH.
So anything you get from the Gov Vault is totally fucking worthless, and Value itself is going to $0.20

[Anonymous No.23110946]

I lost around 40 eth buying this shitcoin all the way down, if any anons have been duped by that cocksucker fonzie, you will kiss your eth goodbye aswell unless you get out while you still can.

[Anonymous No.23111063]

>>23110252
GTFO pajeets! This anon RULES this thread! Buy now or piss off!

[Anonymous No.23111139]

The value I earned in the gov pool is gone...

[Anonymous No.23111254]

>>23110252
This post makes me jelly AF, wish I could buy in right now

[Anonymous No.23111256]

Anyway, I am not gonna FUD. Good luck anons, I hope you don't make the same error that I did.
I thought it would turn around soon aswell.

[Anonymous No.23111511]

>>23110735

They do, sincerely
Look at what is being done

BEST PROJECT FEATURES:

- Native DEX and Liquidity pools. Compared to UNI and BAL which pay you nothing; VALUE gives you a piece of the action. Phase 4 brings monopoly on all trades across all supported dexes. You hold VALUE, you get % provision of all trades.

- Vault strategies automatically select most secure, highest APY% farming pools to give you better fees/rates and saving on gas than UNI or BALANCER or chasing high apy by moving from project to project

- Governance Vaults gain a share of the other vault rewards, incentivizing staking over HODLing on centralized exchanges, which can drastically reduce the circulating supply, use of our own DEX over CEXs and drive up VALUE token price.

- Buyback and distribution of Value from Vault rewards further incentivizes staking the governance vault and reducing the available circulating supply

- All contract changes have 24hr Timelock for safety and trust

- Devs have proven their accountability in the early days of YFV by restoring lost funds that had been exploited, completing numerous additional audits and furthering the goals and value to the community by expanding the project into VALUE and separating from ‘yf’ clone

[Anonymous No.23111522]

>>23111139

Bro you gotta read the updates the Gov 2 is coming.

[Anonymous No.23111763]

>>23111511
Should all be ready by 2022 when the price hits 15 cents.

[Anonymous No.23111893]

>>23107220
>>23106708
Thank you anons.
No idea what Lend is. Will look into it.

[Anonymous No.23112106]

This project suffers from being so tecnical, and bad at explaining what they are doing with each update, that almost no one knows what exactly its happening other than a few very techy people. You can read all the medium articles and updates and check the discord and telegram and still not know WTF is happening exactly, or how this will affect that.

[Anonymous No.23112150]

>>23111511
>>23097501
Are these bots affecting the project?

[Anonymous No.23112220]

>>23112150
Yes

[Anonymous No.23112251]

>>23112150
And I believe the latest victim of these bots is Core. Watch them grind that down to shit too

[Anonymous No.23112350]

Cant unstake without penalty. Staked more yesterday.
Shouldn't they allow penalty free unstake when they make changes without notice?
Also the value rewards that I already accumulated are gone. Like the protocol took them away.
Will they be returned?

DaFuk is goin on with this project?
Yes Ive read all the medium articles.

[Anonymous No.23112535]

>>23112150
all those bots are affecting is the tokens traded on uniswap. so it's affecting the project in a way that it's draining money from VALUE tokens traded on uniswap, if there are any
VALUE's own DEX doesn't suffer from the same bug as uniswap's and such bots can't drain from the VALUE DEX

[Anonymous No.23112610]

>>23112535
Be careful with Value liquid.
I tried to swap some vUSD for Value and got cucked. Took my vUSD, still haven't received the Value, I cbf going into the telegram and getting a headache over it.

[Anonymous No.23112627]

>>23112610
sure kid the blockchain stole your lunch money. go cry about it on plebbit

[Anonymous No.23112672]

>>23112535
Is it possible to delist from Uni once on a few exchanges?
Make all the purchasing / swapping / wrapping of Value internal to Value Liquid protocol

[Anonymous No.23112697]

>>23112672
you can't "delist" from a DEX, on a decentralized exchange as long as anyone(i.e an ether address) provides liquidity the pair can be traded, it's done via smart contract
what can(and probably will) be done is that it will be ensured that it's more profitable for liquidity providers to move on from providing liquidity on UNI to VALUE

[Anonymous No.23112702]

>>23112610
Dis you add the Value contract to your wallet?
as it is different from YFV

[Anonymous No.23112746]

>>23093255
>s vampire attack on Balancer
what's the meaning of this?

[Anonymous No.23112771]

>>23112697
This makes sense.
This project is so frustrating.

The vision and what they are doing / have done is pretty epic.
The growing pains are fooking rough though.

It is shitty to be stuck in a reward-less Stake / cant remove tokens without the 1.92% penalty.

Ill get over it but......................... you know what Im sayin.

[Anonymous No.23112786]

>>23112746
VALUE liquidity was migrated from balancer to VALUE's native liquidity service.
it wasn't really a vampire attack since that liquidity on balancer was the pairs used for YFV/VALUE liquidity, so it was VALUE liquidity all along. they were just using balancer as a service for their liquidity but now it's been moved to their own native solution

[Anonymous No.23112795]

>>23112702
Yeah, I checked.
It didn't steal my (worthless) vUSD, just registered that it had 0 balance on the ui, I was charged for a failed transaction though, and the ui is riddled with bugs. But who cares.. Value liquid is the next big thing.. ri-right

[Anonymous No.23112805]

>>23112771
what do you mean? the new governance v2 vault is coming out later this week and it's gonna have rewards

[Anonymous No.23112898]

Imagine getting so rekt you come up with theories on how this coin is gonna moon somehow

[Anonymous No.23112935]

>>23112805
Just frustrated.
The team is clearly working hard on this project.
and have delivered. Community is involved. Is a lesson in following your investment.
Not just buying a token and holding it in a wallet.

Still see tonnes of potential here and will HoDL
Patience.

[Anonymous No.23112951]

>>23112898
I must give the shills credit, they had me fooled for a while.

[Anonymous No.23113025]

>>23111522
It doesnt say anything about the value I earned from the gov pool disappearing though.The vUSD and vETH i earned is still there, as well as my YFV tokens, but the VALUE is accrued is gone.

[Anonymous No.23113061]

>>23112350
My VALUE rewards are gone as well. I still have my vUSD and vETH. WHat about you, anon?

[Anonymous No.23113062]

>>23112951
WTF? you have 13 posts samefagger! IRONY?

[Anonymous No.23113069]

>>23112935
Sometimes a good idea isn't the best investment. If they're trying to be the next Balancer, you don't make good money holding a ton of BAL, you make it from liquidity pooling. I don't have any reason to keep holding this.

[Anonymous No.23113093]

>>23113062
I am aware of id's cunt, I just hate this shitcoin, not gonna lie.

[Anonymous No.23113177]

>>23113069
it will be more than BAL

[Anonymous No.23113198]

>>23112350
>Cant unstake without penalty
so when can you withdraawn?

[Anonymous No.23113292]

>>23113061
Same

[Anonymous No.23113338]

>>23111139

this. wtf happened to my accrued value tokens? they just vanished?

[Anonymous No.23113374]

>>23113198
There is a time lock when you stake in Gov. Cant recall how long it is; 24hr give or take. 1.92% penalty if you withdraw early.

Appreciate the heads up on The Uni Bots. am pulling out all liquidity from Uni right now.

[Anonymous No.23113556]

>>23113338
the governance pool is getting migrated to V2, you will get your accrued tokens in a few days when it launches

[Anonymous No.23113615]

>>23113556
Will it automatically migrate to GovV2 or does staker have to do manually?

[Anonymous No.23113723]

>>23113615
says in their telegram group it's gonna be automatic

[Anonymous No.23114319]

>dumb retards buying the farmers' bags once again for the 5000th time
Just go to sub $1 and fucking die off already

[Pepe Soros No.23114737]

October roadmap: sexy , read it, your life changes today. https://medium.com/@valuedefi/value-october-roadmap-d3e8db5c86d3

[Anonymous No.23115333]

Farm, then sell. Not hard.

[Pepe Soros No.23115372]

>>23115333
Not going to be possible for long. inflation rate and emmissions dropping, this isn't just a farm, its a combo of FYI and Balancer with the profits going to VALUE holders. Realise this difference and know how massively undervalued it is.

[Anonymous No.23115454]

>>23113723
Thank you Anon for answering those questions; I go on the forum but haven't jumped into the Telegram. Is it worth it?
Decent honest discussion in there?

[Pepe Soros No.23115693]

>>23115454
Discord more civilized than telegram lol. Take a knife if youre going into tg.

[Anonymous No.23115741]

>>23115372
Farming is the only reason to hold this shit coin let’s be real, and the devs need to keep delaying the inevitable end with zero plan of what’s next.

[Pepe Soros No.23115874]

>>23115741
feel sorry for u bro. all this alpha, literally spelled out for you and u still missed it lol.

[Anonymous No.23116068]

I'll probably do a write up of the new changes. On paper the team is carefully solving new issues before they become a problem. The entire ecosystem they are creating is incredible and this will probably be the only yield aggregator project that survives long term as its profits don't come solely from minting new Gov tokens. Right now VALUE suffers from the same thing EVERY farming token suffers from which is the yield is generated primarily from minting/farming the Gov token. They have considerably more revenue streams of actual profit whereas every other project has 1 if not 0. Once everything is online the others will die off over time but VALUE will probably live.

[Anonymous No.23116479]

>>23116068
Unironically this. If this project thrives , it will be because it will outlast almost all its competitors. May take a while unfortunately

[Anonymous No.23117609]

bumping for no reason

[Anonymous No.23117712]

Bump

[Anonymous No.23117822]

>>23117609
thanks for the bump anon.

>>23116068
agreed. the team is really impressive and one of the smartest I came across in the crypto space. I believe the community driven rebranding was a great idea, and this will differentiate it from many other YFI clones out there.

[Retard No.23118006]

First things first, what is the make it stack?!?

[Anonymous No.23118707]

Guys, why do you cope so much since ath. Move on bros... Its not healthy holding a token you can farm...

[Anonymous No.23119070]

People banned for posting pic related. They don't want us to know value. Wtf they banned for this jannies?

[Anonymous No.23119136]

FUCK JANNIES:

- Value vaults uncap increasing TVL (completion of pending audits by well known auditors)
- Defi pulse listing almost finalized; 1inch and paraswap is in discussion
- Increase partnerships in the defi ecosystem
- Pools begin to accept VALUE tokens
- Farming rewards exhaust from pools and reduced emission from governance vault so less inflation of VALUE supply and farmers dumping
- Team finishes product updates (phases 4)
- Provide clarification to the vUSD and vETH tokens and rebase mechanism initiated
- Complete the major updates to the site(s)
- Accelerate the marketing aspect and promotion once major project developments are complete

FUCK JANNIES:

- Native DEX and Liquidity pools. Compared to UNI and BAL which pay you nothing; VALUE gives you a piece of the action. Phase 4 brings monopoly on all trades across all supported dexes. You hold VALUE, you get % provision of all trades.

- Vault strategies automatically select most secure, highest APY% farming pools to give you better fees/rates and saving on gas than UNI or BALANCER or chasing high apy by moving from project to project

- Using vUSD/vETH as rewards once VALUE rewards exhaust creates a non-inflationary reward ecosystem in which token price can not be as easily manipulated by large account holders

- Governance Vaults gain a share of the other vault rewards, incentivizing staking over HODLing on centralized exchanges, which can drastically reduce the circulating supply, use of our own DEX over CEXs and drive up VALUE token price.

- Buyback and distribution of Value from Vault rewards further incentivizes staking the governance vault and reducing the available circulating supply

- All contract changes have 24hr Timelock for safety and trust

[Anonymous No.23119304]

>>23119136
Nice. Gonna keep holding then.

[Anonymous No.23119352]

How are they able to take away accrued Value rewards?
Ive being DCAing into this since 20$.
Value rewards are legit gone.

Cool if they will come back in Gov2. Disappearing without warning / notice or addressing it is rather weird.
This isnt FUD. Honestly want to know Why / When / How dis happen.

Reasonable ask imo.

[Anonymous No.23119390]

>>23119136

FUCK JANNIES:

In less than 2 month this team constantly delivered more than any other DeFi bubble bullshit YFI and FOOD clones.

FUCK JANNIES:

ALL the FUNDAMENTALS are here, they are building a solid massive project, they have LONG TERM plans.

FUCK JANNIES:

There will always be, in every project, the retarded buyers/sellers that only look at the price action:
- Holders who bough ATH (or near) that look only at the fuckingNumber, they don't even read the updates and try to understand what's going on (when $100? $1000 possible!)
- Ex-Holders who sold at loss, angry (because the not angry ones don't give a fuck about fudding a project, they just go on with their life and other investments), they talk shit about the 'bad project' that made them lose money when it's in reality their own fault, and are totally biased


>>23119352

My VALUE from governance vault is gone, what happend to it?

- The VALUE is not gone. It's a UI bug, it will be handled soon.
- Please don't claim/exit your staked YFV from gov vault now.
- People who already claimed their rewards (or exit) and got 0 VALUE, you will get the VALUE rewards airdropped to your address at the next epoch. Don't worry nothing is lost.
- Sorry for the inconvenience.

How will transfer to Governance Vault V2 go?
- There will be a transfer button or you could manually unstake and restake.

The next time please use the fucking search function in telegram/discord, and if you're not in telegram/discord, join and stay updated ffs.

[Anonymous No.23119463]

Can someone explain this like I'm an idiot

Where does the APY come from? If it's from creation of new VALUE, farmers will continue to dump so what's the point of hodling the token?

[Anonymous No.23119466]

>>23119390
Thank you for the thorough answer. Respect.

This team is doing incredible things I agree.
Thank you Devs and Mods. Respect.

Still in it because of what the team has done and are doing.
Respect.

[Anonymous No.23119479]

>>23119390
>FUCK JANNIES:
>In less than 2 month this team constantly delivered more than any other DeFi bubble bullshit YFI and FOOD clones.
>FUCK JANNIES:
>ALL the FUNDAMENTALS are here, they are building a solid massive project, they have LONG TERM plans.
Fully Agree.

[Anonymous No.23119495]

>>23119390
Fucking BASED. Good time to get into crypto if you don't have your head up your ass. Speaking of, I myself am about as green as the spring pastures on a rolling prairie hillside when it comes to all of this and even I can plainly see this is smart money. Wish I had more than 3-500 to toss in desu but really no worries, what a comfy hodl for a rookie like me.

[Anonymous No.23119509]

>>23118006
You need a bigger stack every day to hedge against the dump..

[Anonymous No.23119560]

>>23093255
except now they're going to be sued and criminally investigated, and YFV wont exist in a year, lol.

[Anonymous No.23119577]

>>23119136
Audits by The Arcadia Group?

The Devs aint fucking around if this is true. Anyone in the know?

[Anonymous No.23119582]

>>23119560
Can I join in? For all of the pain and suffering.

[Anonymous No.23119597]

How did they steal uniswap liquidity? Redpill me on this please, I keep trying to conceptualize

[Anonymous No.23119601]

>>23119560
Why?

[Anonymous No.23119606]

>>23119577
Arcadia just finished CORE's audits, pdf report out tomorrow am

[Anonymous No.23119672]

>>23119606
>>23119346
and Value according to this post.
Most people cant afford core. YFV is great for the average person.

There have been tonnes of rugs in the last few months. We just learned about the Uni bot issue. Which is eating away at Core and many other projects.
Doesnt appear that the bot issue is affecting the pools within Value Liquidity.

Should I buy 1 Core at 2k+ when known Bot issue is a factor
or
or 450+ Value for roughly the same 2k where Devs are able to and willing to adjust the contract to mitigate said issue?

>>23097501 doent sound lie team Uni is able to fix the bot situation.

[Anonymous No.23119740]

>>23119672
>Which is eating away at Core and many other projects
No, it's not eating away at CORE. That's now how the exploit works. CORE is paired with eth and only eth. No re-routing necessary.

[Pepe Soros No.23119821]

This guy gets it - follow for alpha: https://twitter.com/SeikatsuIO/status/1314118792679763968

[Anonymous No.23119824]

>>23119740

UNI is cool; the whole decentralized exchange idea.
Anyone can list a coin; many have and the rugs have been insane.
Decentralized is cool but there has to be some sort of governance around listings?

Could xDai or Buidl set up governance around this.
This industry is going to get crushed by regulators if there isnt accountability around listings.
Bad look for heavy investors / Hedge money. Ya know?

[Anonymous No.23119847]

>>23119821
>https://twitter.com/SeikatsuIO/status/1314118792679763968
Based

[Anonymous No.23120021]

>>23119672
>Most people cant afford core. YFV is great for the average person.
What the fuck are you talking about? What does it matter if you own "1" or something? If Core goes up 10x and YFV doesn't, you'll make 10x your money even if you could only afford 0.1 CORE.

[Anonymous No.23120661]

>>23119824
minus the Buidl idea
>>23120087

[Anonymous No.23121364]

Bump

[Anonymous No.23122238]

Pls no hurt jannies

[Anonymous No.23122832]

satoshivalue: we already pulled the adapter request for DeFipulse. They are integrating us into their website soon

Source: Discord

[Anonymous No.23123059]

>>23122832
Lawl, now who is satoshivalue?

[Anonymous No.23123345]

Dis shiet gonna flyyyyyyyy to the mooooon

[Anonymous No.23123382]

Comfy farming this and holding VALUE, it's gonna moon so hard in 2021

[Anonymous No.23123420]

>>23119463
>Where does the APY come from?
>If it's from creation of new VALUE, farmers will continue to dump so what's the point of hodling the token?
Can someone explain for this retarded anon?

[Anonymous No.23123507]

>>23123420
do research by yourself instead of begging people to spoonfeed you. https://medium.com/@valuedefi/

[Veins !lFYPm1Syns No.23123622]

>>23123420
>>23123507

Anons. Look here at this response. See? They tell you to DYOR but reality is holding VALUE has NO USE CASE.

Here's what to do if you wanna make some money from this. Read closely, you get your stable coin or something relatively secure like LINK, you buy a SMALL SMALL amount of VALUE and you farm the fucking shitcoin VALUE. Then you market dump once APY drops too low. Tjat's how this game is played. It's not even that worth it but since you guys are desperate to fkin shill this coin hopefully I can save some of you from losing too much.

TLDR - VALUE is a shitcoin. High chance of burn.

[Pepe Soros No.23124120]

>>23120021
>What the fuck are you talking about? What does it matter if you own "1" or something? If Core goes up 10x and YFV doesn't, you'll make 10x your money even if you could only afford 0.1 CORE.

Youre sort of correct, but missing one element - here you can buy an under the radar project rather than one that everyone has discovered. A bottomed project rather than a top (even if not a final top), and importantly you can acquire a LARGER % OF TOTAL SUPPLY. i.e. you can buy 0.1% of Value or only 0.01% of core kind of economics. 3 weeks ago on CORE people were buying in early like this and now 5x up (imaginary numbers) when it 2xes from here you buying now get the 2x, but this previous buyer is on 10x - so there is less room for it to grow until early supporters get SUPER profits and create sell pressure against you. With VALUE , YOU are the early whale here.

[Pepe Soros No.23124305]

>>23123622
lol at this guy taking time to write this up, when i know project has no value i move the fuck on. this guy is FUD, buying your fear and dumps lol. So easy to see through lol >>23123420

>Can someone explain for this retarded anon?

There IS utility, VALUE, literally as it's name suggests accrues value from the network activities. Namely 2 main ones:
VAULTS: let anyone deposit weth/wbtc/stablecoins and Value Defi puts them to work for you farming cream, uni, curve, etc etc and takes 6.67% of the profit and gives it to governance VALUE token stakers. It IS yfi / farm.
2. Through 0.05% fees across the DEX (the vampire fork of Balancer, today it is near $2m volume, within the next week it will be integrated through the aggregators (talking to 1inch now) for even more volume and fees earnt.. I could keep going on this - they will allow any coin to launch a farm/project and they save time on not having to fork snx, and comp, and curve to get all the distribution contracts, the contract is inside Value Defi and all tested and safe and proven, and their buyers also know they are legit and cant RUG - so all trading and farming value accrues to VALUE holders from there too... i could go on... then they vampire liquidity from Uniswap (which is possible and VERY likely within the next weeks...)...

Take a look at this tweet and spreadsheet on value accural to holders... it is INCREDIBLE even at modest volumes/utility: https://twitter.com/SeikatsuIO/status/1314142083461062656

[Anonymous No.23124562]

Why would you continue to use uniswap if VALUE is cheaper and also rewards you for holding it?

UNI pumped with an exponentially higher supply on just the possibility that it would do what VALUE is doing.

Twitter shills have too many apes brainwashed... they all will FOMO soon.

[Anonymous No.23124600]

They will cry when it’s $100 and follow their favorite crypto twitterer into being the liquidity for their dump

Also core dumped to hell, fuck core. It has nothing except for permanent liq lock which Means one hack or exploit and it’s done for. Meme of the week.

[Anonymous No.23124879]

>>23124600
>It has nothing except for permanent liq lock which Means one hack or exploit and it’s done for.

This is the case for any project based on smart contracts.

[Anonymous No.23125562]

>>23124305
>
Is the v2 gov vault really gonna autocompound? i thought it was only the pools

[Anonymous No.23125722]

>>23124305
Thanks for writing this up anon, this sounds really promising
>VAULTS: let anyone deposit weth/wbtc/stablecoins and Value Defi puts them to work for you farming cream, uni, curve, etc etc
How does VALUE farm other coins? Eg how could it generate other coins besides itself?

[Anonymous No.23126488]

>>23125722
retard