/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.22742760]

there is no such thing as smart money
contango edition

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https://tradingeconomics.com

>>22738794

[Anonymous No.22742777]

FUCK BOOMERS

[Anonymous No.22742779]

>futures

[Anonymous No.22742783]

Bitcoin SV

[Anonymous No.22742784]

>>22742777
when will you kids learn that your virtual money is not real and just a scam?

[Anonymous No.22742797]

Horsefaqs btfo

[Anonymous No.22742806]

>>22742777
checked. Boomers forever btfo'd

[Anonymous No.22742816]

G

[Anonymous No.22742848]

I have been commenting on the circus that is GME here since April. Never my kind of play but I wish you well GME coomers because it would be hilarious to me if the circus now causes it to spike upward in a sea of red when before it was the red submarine in a sea of green.

[Anonymous No.22742850]

>futures
welcome back to the 3300 SPX futures party, everyone

[Anonymous No.22742875]

business idea: kill all boomers and use their corpses as biomass to power bitcoin mining

[Anonymous No.22742919]

just tell me why the fuck does anyone care about NAK? Permit denied, Trump opposes and democrats historically oppose the mine. CEO caught on tape bragging about buying the governor. Why would you do anything but short to fuckin 0. Fuck you guys short short short Nak

[Anonymous No.22742921]

>>22742777
checked
based lucky sevens, we're all gonna make it bros
FUCK BOOMERS

[Anonymous No.22742945]

Are you ready for the 2nd wave on Friday?

[Anonymous No.22742953]

[Anonymous No.22743068]

>>22742953
Wish I listened to the GME holders instead of panic selling. Guess that's why I will stay poor.

[Anonymous No.22743077]

>>22742779
Stop using pink wojaks when it's going up.

[Anonymous No.22743154]

>>22743068
Same, I panic sold as well

[Anonymous No.22743202]

>>22742777
fpbp, trips, based fuck boomers meme. good way to start the day.

[2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.22743249]

Holy shit, bros.
I think I have the opportunity to get a really, really hot 19 year old girl to send her first nudes.

Money really does buy happiness.

[Anonymous No.22743318]

Probably 1 or 2 more chances to get GME sub 10 before it takes off.

[Anonymous No.22743330]

>>22743249
>19
>first nudes
Yeah sure bro

[Anonymous No.22743335]

>>22743318
Why is it going up so much? Is there even a reason?

[Anonymous No.22743356]

>>22743249
she's not even 19, sorry

[Anonymous No.22743357]

Half the twitter nerds I'm following are expecting a crash, bearish smart money has awaken and there are even people on wsb that a screaming crash is coming. The other half is praying buy the dip, yoloing on tesla calls or expecting a bull run afer the election.

There is no middle ground anymore.

[Anonymous No.22743362]

>>22743249
kys simp animal

[Anonymous No.22743363]

>>22743335
greed

[Anonymous No.22743369]

>>22743335
>he still doesnt know

[Anonymous No.22743371]

>>22743249
post body

yours, not hers.

I need to see the results of 2 scooping 4 gainz

[Anonymous No.22743394]

>>22742945
Priced in even if we drop spy has diamond support at 300
The market now knows what will happen with another lockdown amazon will go out of the galaxy and so will most of tech

[Anonymous No.22743403]

redpill me on european options

[Anonymous No.22743406]

>>22743335
Hype. Still seems early. I’ll sell just before ps5 release at the latest.

[Anonymous No.22743419]

>>22743403
they are trash

[Anonymous No.22743425]

>>22743403
You'd never exercise your options anyways (mathematically indifferent to just selling them as-is) so no reason to differentiate between europoor/murican options.

[Anonymous No.22743426]

Horse down nearly 2%

[Anonymous No.22743444]

>NNOX
geez, i wonder if that anon who shilled it here a week ago at 65, was a paid shill or really bought the stock, if latter then oioioioioi

[Anonymous No.22743457]

>>22743249
Is this a pic of you

[Anonymous No.22743458]

Do you think Tesla will rebound on earnings report?

[Anonymous No.22743462]

>>22743403
low liq, most of the traffic i think is done by the phone etc, eu derivatives mkt is a completely different beast

[Anonymous No.22743486]

>>22743249
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.22743503]

Buy CLF

[Anonymous No.22743515]

>>22742777
And jannie trannies!

[Anonymous No.22743526]

DXY up, gold and silver dumping hard.

[Anonymous No.22743531]

>>22743357
>that short volume
squeeze incoming, just look what happened in december, everyone of that 'smart money' was long to the gills, even with vix at 14.
>theres no middle ground
idk, about half of the ones i follow are cautious, but still bullish, some are short but arent that confident in their positions

[Anonymous No.22743539]

Was GALT a scam?

[Anonymous No.22743550]

>>22743503
will hit 5.50 in jiffy

[Anonymous No.22743555]

>>22743550

lol no

[Anonymous No.22743597]

WHY DIDN'T I BUY GAMESTOP AT 3 DOLLARS

AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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[Anonymous No.22743600]

>>22743457
Body like that and you’ll be dead in no time

[Anonymous No.22743625]

>>22743526
if gold hits 1650-1700 (kinda doubt it tho), im buying more

[Anonymous No.22743633]

>>22743597
If you did, it would've fallen to $2.
The universe is a cruel place.

[Anonymous No.22743638]

I HAD GME ANON

FUCK

[Anonymous No.22743650]

>>22743638

Mad as fuck I sold

Oh well

All into CLF

[Anonymous No.22743668]

>>22743458
depends, can they use their $5 billion share dilution to buy their cars and pretend they turned a profit?

[Anonymous No.22743675]

>>22743638

Just looked up the difference

I'm only missing out 8k

Up way more on my CLF options lol

[Anonymous No.22743712]

>>22742777
Based and red pill

[Anonymous No.22743744]

>>22742848
I hope it takes a massive red blood shit today, goes down to 5 bucks so I can buy 2k worth of calls, even if it dips down to 8i am buying 1k, I won't buy it at 10 that's almost all time high for this shit

[Anonymous No.22743782]

>>22743249

"she" is probably a "he". Kek

[Anonymous No.22743813]

>>22742919
because anons won't listen, there were 100's of red flags, but the mirage of sudden riches clouds the mind

[Anonymous No.22743863]

>>22743503
Red pill me on clf before it goes up to 20 bucks anon

[Anonymous No.22743929]

btw, ibkr and others are upping margin reqs, ibkr starting from 09/28 and another bump in october, will last till election at least, all the other times this happened volatility jumped, it is kind of self-reinforcing mechanism tho

[Anonymous No.22743957]

What do you think about FLR (Fluor Corporation) ? They are planning to report earnings right before fridays bell.

[Anonymous No.22743960]

>>22743503
>>22743863
If you really thought CLF or any other meme stock was going to be anything other than a nothing burger, you would've purchased call monthlies/leaps on them. You won't though, because it's memeshit.

[Anonymous No.22743973]

>>22743929
Does that matter to cashfags?

[Anonymous No.22744010]

>>22743973
nope, why would you want to be a cashacc?

[Anonymous No.22744100]

>>22743249
post them

[Anonymous No.22744124]

Can someone explain to me why holding a leveraged inverse ETF like SPXU overnight is a bad thing if say for example SPY keeps falling the next day?

[Anonymous No.22744129]

why u niggas always slept on CLCT. I tried to tip yall after it fell under 20 dollars in COVID but no one listened, i even said screenshot this, none of yall even did. Guess that just means more gains for me suckas. I told y'all pokemon cards was at an all time high, i told yall everyone and their grandmother would sell out the weird dead uncles old numismatic coin collections and get them graded. RIP.

[Anonymous No.22744168]

>>22744124
>SPXU provides (-3x) exposure to a market-cap weighted index of 500 large- and midcap US companies
Woah mama. I wouldn't bet against the largest, most liquid, and most canonical index available, but if you know for certain SPY will fall there's no harm holding overnight.
Usually you hear anons cry about
>muh beta decay!! noooooo
but honestly it's negligible.

[Anonymous No.22744177]

>Futures pumping
>DXY hasn't budged
This is going to be a painful bull trap

[Anonymous No.22744192]

TSLA bros suspiciously silent
didnt they have some great anouncement conference recently? ;^)

[Anonymous No.22744199]

>>22744192
yea they invented strapless bras but for batteries instead of bras or something like that.

[Anonymous No.22744221]

>>22744168
Okay, yeah I know, risky but I have a feeling there's going to be a correction with no stimulus, no vaccine and some fear out there at the moment.

[Anonymous No.22744225]

>>22742919

Permit wasn't denied, fud-boy, first permit was approved. Army Corps added that NAK needs a mitigation plan, and we're going to have that plan within two weeks. Oh yes, and Trump now openly supports Pebble; only reason why NAK crashed is because liars pushed hit-pieces saying he would block it, so the fact that he now approves it shows you how significant this is. There's no way that this mine won't get built. The dollar is going to zero, while China is hoarding gold and commodities as quickly as it can. America will need to make use of its own resources.

Source: Explorer & Developper tab here https://www.goldforumamericas.com/program-agenda/

Tom Collier -- "Draft of Mitigation Plan is on the Desk of Internal Expert and expected to be delivered within 2 weeks, if not the week"

"Expects that Mitigation Proposal fully addresses all Mitigiation needs -- ROD this fall"

"Northern Dynasty expects positive ROD in the next month or so and it looks like it may be before the elections. Collier stated that even if Trump does not get re-elected, he still holds office until January and a lot can be done during that time frame."

[Anonymous No.22744228]

>>22743457
naah, thats definitely 5 SCOOPS! RIP

[Anonymous No.22744270]

>>22744221
I think you would be better off buying call options for VXX if you wanted to play off of chaos and volatility.

[Anonymous No.22744301]

>>22743458
Why? They didn't sell cars in Europe and China.

[Anonymous No.22744304]

>>22744301
5 billion dollars can buy you a lot of cars

[Anonymous No.22744308]

>>22744129
>CLCT
missed this, dayum, didnt know there's a public corp like this, but looks like its correcting now

[Anonymous No.22744328]

>>22744129
will do dd on this one, looks really interesting

[Anonymous No.22744364]

Now DXY is dropping
How is Europe doing

[Anonymous No.22744365]

>>22742760
What’s the market looking like this week?

[Anonymous No.22744366]

>>22744129
how much for my uno collection?

[Anonymous No.22744406]

Should I sell gme puts the premiums are crazy

[Anonymous No.22744413]

>>22744364
My EQQQ and S&P500 etfs both up nearly 2% today

[Anonymous No.22744416]

>>22744225
How long you holding NAK? What price do you expect it to get to?

[Anonymous No.22744450]

look into the LINK threads if you want to get a glimpse in the future of GME baggies

[Anonymous No.22744463]

>>22744199
>>22744192

Wait till he does something on a podcast again lol

He stuttered through the entire thing too

[Anonymous No.22744500]

>>22744450
Now is a great time to get a bag of link if you don't have

[Anonymous No.22744511]

>>22744416

NAK has roughly as much gold, silver, copper, and capacity to produce quickly, as NEM, and NEM is the largest miner in the world. NEM market cap is 100x larger than NAK, and should itself go 2 or 3x higher in this PM bull market + dividends, so NAK has at least 300x potential.

[Anonymous No.22744513]

my wife only allows me to coom once per week

[Anonymous No.22744563]

>>22744301
> Produce a car that is all about tech
> Car can´t even detect European traffic signs correctly
> Car breaks for no reason, because it detects a risk and you have to take over manually
> Competitors have much cheaper cars and in some cases better assist systems

They won´t sell shit in Europe and Asia

[Anonymous No.22744575]

Bought Microsoft at 198 and I've been cooming ever since

[Anonymous No.22744593]

>>22744513
I have more or less lost interest in cooming

[Anonymous No.22744610]

>>22744511
That’s a hefty potential. Seems a bit risky considering the political situation? I agree that it may happen regardless considering how fucked the US economy may be in six months time.

[Anonymous No.22744634]

>miner cheapies not that cheap
Dammit

[Anonymous No.22744640]

What should I buy today?

[Anonymous No.22744652]

>>22744563
euro here, i see a bunch of teslas driving around, i'd say Tesla sells more cars in austria, than Dodge

[Anonymous No.22744655]

>>22744225
>and Trump now openly supports Pebble
Clearly Trump is implying with that Tweet that he will block NAK. He could be lying of course, but there's just no way how you can twist that Tweet into a positive signal...

[Anonymous No.22744660]

>>22744563
Exactly. Tesla shareholders are sheeps. Tesla has no future outside USA. Already selling Chinese factory cars in Europe, because the demand in China is not high enough. News telling people that the demand for EV in China is falling, while companies like Nio are selling much more cars than last year lol.

[Anonymous No.22744666]

>>22744640
All in on nak faggot do it

[Anonymous No.22744673]

>>22744640
I have no idea what the hell any of those churchhill capital corps are even trying to do.

[Anonymous No.22744675]

>>22744652
Spanish here. Just look at Tesla sales evolution in Europe. Yeah you see some Teslas. For each Tesla I see 1000 mercedes, 2000 audis, 4000 Renaults and 2000 BMWs

[Anonymous No.22744679]

>>22744673
Me either kek

[Anonymous No.22744680]

why is it going up?

[Anonymous No.22744688]

>>22744610

I would never go all in on something like NAK; most of my money is in small-cap silver miners. But I do have 5% my net-worth in NAK, because the opportunity is too great to pass by.

[Anonymous No.22744698]

>>22744680
why not?

[Anonymous No.22744716]

>>22744688
Sounds fair, I may do the same.

[Anonymous No.22744721]

>>22744680

let me ask you a better one. why would it go down?

[Anonymous No.22744731]

>>22744655

>>Clearly Trump is implying with that Tweet that he will block NAK. He could be lying of course, but there's just no way how you can twist that Tweet into a positive signal...

This is wrong. Watch this ad which Trump ran a few days ago, it couldn't be more clear to you what "no more politics" means, if it wasn't already clear enough from the Tweet. It's unequivocally in support of Pebble Mine.

https://twitter.com/alexcguillen/status/1306425929506357256

As for his son, Trump regularly calls him an idiot, and says that he doesn't pay the slightest bit of attention to him. Read this article to learn more.

https://insiderfinancial.com/president-trump-set-to-approve-pebble-mine-project/180427/

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“He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer,” the president reportedly said in 2017, after the full extent of Don Jr.’s haphazardly arranged Trump Tower Moscow meeting came to light.

And…….

POTUS’s less-than-flattering portrait of his son is shared by others who’ve dealt with him outside of MAGA pep rallies. In 2017, the Daily Beast reported that campaign staffers had nicknamed Don Jr. as “Fredo.” That was a reference to the not-so-bright son of The Godfather series—even before CNN anchor Chris Cuomo claimed it was an ethnic slur.

And…….

“President Trump was very quick to tell everybody that he thinks Don Jr. has the worst judgment of anyone he’s ever met in the world.”

And…….

Trump’s ex-wife Ivana recounts in her 2017 book, “Raising Trump,” that when she suggested naming their newly born first child Donald Jr., Trump protested: “You can’t do that! What if he’s a loser?”

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[Anonymous No.22744733]

>>22744688
I am buy 30 calls for February 19, if this shit blows up I'll be rich

[Anonymous No.22744736]

>>22744652
Dodge doesn't sell shit in europe tho
Cars far to big to be of any use

[Anonymous No.22744740]

>>22744511

>PM bull market

I really hate this boomer rocks meme.

Anon, we all know deflation will continue for ever. UBI, MMT, and negative interest rates are all crazy talk that will never happen, govts will never get the inflation they want. Instead, they'll be OK with deflation and sit on their hands as the boomer's retirement evaporates and federal debt becomes serviceable.

Even if they did embrace MMT, they've given us an ironclad pinky-promise that they will stop printing if inflation gets too bad. They'll see CPI shooting up and they'll say "well, gee, looks like we can't pay for socialism with debt after all, time to roll it all back, sorry everybody show's over!"

Goldbugs shoo shoo.

[Anonymous No.22744745]

Just an FYI Hololive is now incorporating stock reviews and commentary into their daily segments.

https://youtu.be/pEh_Rgy0sOs?t=41

[Anonymous No.22744772]

>>22744721
>>22744698
because the "crisis" so far hasnt shown a permanent correction in the stock market, hell, nasdaq is even up from febuary levels, fed programs are ending, underlying economic data is shit, no stimulus and many many other problems.
can somebody explain to me why i am wrong?

[Anonymous No.22744775]

>>22744745
What's hololive

[Anonymous No.22744787]

>>22744772
You're not wrong
Premarket is meaningless

[Anonymous No.22744834]

So you don't give a fuck about FLR stocks?

[Anonymous No.22744836]

>>22744740

>>Anon, we all know deflation will continue for ever. UBI, MMT, and negative interest rates are all crazy talk that will never happen, govts will never get the inflation they want. Instead, they'll be OK with deflation and sit on their hands as the boomer's retirement evaporates and federal debt becomes serviceable.

This is absolutely impossible. First of all, the CPI is a lie. John Williams' ShadowStats + the Chapwood Index put real inflation 10 percent per annum. The Fed pretend as if they want inflation when inflation is really out of control; it's a headfake. Secondly, the Fed is caught in a debt-trap from which there is no escape. They tried to yields go up in late 2018; when yields hit a nominal 3%, the Dow immediately crashed 20%, and they were forced to re-start Q. E. again. The market was already going to crash again this year without further liquidity; the coronavirus stuff was simply an excuse to begin Q. E. infinity. Yields are now deeply negative, just as they were in the 70s and 80s, and they can never go positive again. Only a fool would buy a negatively-yielding bond; a bond market crash is inevitable. The more the Fed monetizes the debt, the more deeply negative yields go, the less attractive treasuries become to foreign investors, ad infinitum, in a vicious circle, until the Fed becomes the only buyer. They can't let yields go up again, it would crash stocks by 95% and wipe out every social programme in the U. S.; they must simply print and print and print until the dollar has no value, and foreigners dump it once and for all. Every country on earth is already racing to dump treasuries and hoard commodities as fast as it reasonably can.

[Anonymous No.22744840]

>>22744740
>Even if they did embrace MMT, they've given us an ironclad pinky-promise that they will stop printing if inflation gets too bad. They'll see CPI shooting up and they'll say "well, gee, looks like we can't pay for socialism with debt after all, time to roll it all back, sorry everybody show's over!"
They did embrace MMT. I am also generally of the opinion that the Fed really can do nothing about deflation because every country that has tried rounds of QE can never escape. That said, the one thing it does seem to do is inflate the hell out of equities. And the more ineffective the QE becomes the more trashed in real and nominal terms become bonds and treasuries. Truly worthwhile bonds begin to trade at such premiums you effectively lose much of the ROI.
Commodities, including silver and gold, are an alternative to treasuries, not stocks. Conservative portfolios will always want that. And the zero return of shiny rocks is still better than the negative returns you lock in with treasuries. I think just sitting on stocks is the way to go with inflation. They have been barely outpacing inflation over the past 10 years. Gold or silver only become worthwhile when your currency is going to zero, and you want to leave your country. Forget Zimbabwe, that was the case in both Venezuela and Turkey.

[Anonymous No.22744881]

>“He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer,” the president reportedly said in 2017

Well if it isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Trump failed to raise his son and keeps pushing his bimbo daughter who married a jew. Can't make that shit up.

[Anonymous No.22744902]

>>22744731
>“You can’t do that! What if he’s a loser?”

Holy shit this guy is so fucking based scientist might actually be wrong and The sun indeed spins around Donald Trump and not the other way around.

That fucking mine isn't happening tho I don't think so

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/08/24/alaska-mine-trump-administration-reversal-401183

[Anonymous No.22744916]

>>22744731
Savage, poor Junior lmao.

I guess I'll throw a 100 bucks at NAK, we'll see.

[Anonymous No.22744959]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju_4YA6vODY

New survey from HBI Toledo

Buy CLF

[Anonymous No.22744998]

>>22744902

>politico

What you just quoted is the left-wing hit-piece which I made a reference to here. >>22744225 The recent Trump tweet, and the ad which I reference here, >>22744731 have now completely refuted it. As NAK only went down because of the Politico hit-piece, and we now know that the Politico hit-piece is a lie, the fact that NAK is still down 30% from the 19th of August makes it an immense bargain.

[Anonymous No.22745008]

>>22742760
ooooohhhhh yyyyeeeeaaahhhhh BELLAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.22745104]

>Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 joggers in Florida so they can vote

A contested election will crash the market. That is the black swan that will pop the tech bubble.

[Anonymous No.22745106]

>futes

[Anonymous No.22745179]

>>22744840
Kek I was gonna make this argument but was too lazy to type it out. SMG brainlets gonna disregard anyway

[Anonymous No.22745190]

>>22745104
are you, by any chance, blind

[Anonymous No.22745196]

>>22744836
>Every country on earth is already racing to dump treasuries and hoard commodities as fast as it reasonably can.
Then why are PM's bleeding?

[Anonymous No.22745226]

>>22745190
Your own meme line shows that this could be a correction. We didn't crash yet.

[Anonymous No.22745236]

>>22744745
>telling people to buy snowflake
wat

[Anonymous No.22745242]

>>22745104
>Nooooooo, you can’t just let the blacks vote, Florida is supposed to vote Trump!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.22745279]

>>22745196
The futures market is overleveraged to the tits to paper trading. There were 500 futures contracts traded for every allotment of silver it could correspond to. The spot price has decoupled almost completely for the futures. And it is entirely possible that the Comex is being raided by MMs that are using it for spot (same day contract and demand physical).
So for 499 of those contracts it is just algos trading on a line and treating it like a casino. Physical delivery will always push that number upward, and believe that this is similar to about a month ago with bullion banks covering their shorts to go long again.

[Anonymous No.22745291]

>>22744745
Well, that was retarded

[Anonymous No.22745349]

Why isn’t SHLL climbing past 60? The merger is next week

[Anonymous No.22745350]

>>22742760
lel

[Anonymous No.22745361]

>>22744513
>>22744593
This is where I need to be!
What are you lads morning routines?
I'm drinking some cheap coffee and I usually watch Royce Jakob / Stock Trading Pro Pete and make some small moves off of that.

I bought Sorrento high last month and have been cope-buying as it goes down, glad I'm up 1k again

[Anonymous No.22745362]

>>22745196

>Then why are PM's bleeding?

Manipulation. The PM price you see in places like Kitco or goldprice isn't the price which bullion-dealers or miners sell for, it's the COMEX price. The COMEX is a futures exchange where 100 digital ounces of metal are traded for every real ounce which can actually be delivered. What is going on right now is a wash-out so that the banks can cover their enormous short positions. Yesterday, they dumped 1 billion paper ounces on the market in a single day (for reference, only 100 million ounces are even mined each year for investment). If they don't do this, they will go bankrupt. Recall that silver "crashed" to $11 in March, before it soared to $30 within a few months. No matter how low the price went, you couldn't find an ounce of physical for less than $25. Things will function no differently this time. I expect mining stocks to hold basically where they are, and physical to remain basically the same, until we come up again. To learn more about all this, watch these two videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyAopYlD32k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOPKizJ_Y4

Silver is one of the only safe havens to protect oneself with from the incoming $100 trillion bond-market collapse and $60 trillion stock market collapse. So it is inevitable that demand for physical delivery will overwhelm the paper system soon, and then you will have a situation analogous with what happened to Palladium a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.22745376]

>>22745349
60$ EOD

[Anonymous No.22745381]

>>22743068
>>22743154
keep the tradition alive is why you are here.

[Anonymous No.22745421]

>>22745376
I hope so

[Anonymous No.22745453]

>>22743357
Gee it's almost as if markets don't always go up

[Anonymous No.22745468]

>>22745104
Latinos will come through for Trump

[Anonymous No.22745513]

>>22744731

How can somebody watch that video and not buy NAK?

[Anonymous No.22745605]

>>22744406
I was thinking of running wheel on GME

[Anonymous No.22745653]

>>22743068
This

[Anonymous No.22745718]

>>22745104
Hilarious that people still call it a democracy. The US election is a war between billionaires.

[Anonymous No.22745745]

Will GME dip today so I can buy more calls?

[Anonymous No.22745773]

everyone's triggered https://news.yahoo.com/wells-fargo-ceo-says-limited-235833624.html

[Anonymous No.22745788]

If I own 100 shares and sell a cell today that expires this week, can I also sell another call today that expires next week or does my broker consider my 100 shares locked until the week is over?

[Anonymous No.22745795]

lol @ permabears. How can you think that equities market will plummet indefinitely when there are gigantic neon signs that say "INTEREST RATES STAYING DOING, INFLATION GOING UP, STIMULUS COMING SOON, PROJECTED PUBLIC HELD DEBT WILL DOUBLE". Doesn't mean we can 'only go up' but it does mean that we can only go so far down and for so long before we reach new ATHs making this sell off look like nothing in a few years.
>>22745718
Always has been.

[Anonymous No.22745817]

>>22745773
there's nothing there

[Anonymous No.22745823]

>>22745788
Get out retard you're gonna lose your shares not even knowing what selling a call is

[Anonymous No.22745834]

>>22745788
They're locked in, barring maybe something using margin that your brother would need to approve you for. Don't sell options naked.

[Anonymous No.22745837]

>>22745362

>>Yesterday, they dumped 1 billion paper ounces on the market in a single day

Read: "they dumped 1 billion paper silver ounces."

[Anonymous No.22745846]

>>22745795
What a brainlet

[Anonymous No.22745858]

I cant believe workhorse is fucking dead

[Anonymous No.22745869]

>>22745795
do you think they can force inflation?
they're ENCOURAGING inflation, but banks aren't printing

[Anonymous No.22745870]

>>22743744
Ath is over 50$

[Anonymous No.22745901]

>>22745858
>+800% since May

[Anonymous No.22745912]

>>22745858
Yo shut up. It’s not even close to being dead. Today might be last red day for a while.

[Anonymous No.22745917]

>>22745468
Only the Cubans, the rest will be deported

[Anonymous No.22745919]

DXY is back over 94

[Anonymous No.22745924]

So Battery Day was basically nothing, right? Where is TSLA going next?

[Anonymous No.22745952]

>>22745924
down

[Anonymous No.22745991]

>>22742777
nice trips. seconded for fuck boomers.

[Anonymous No.22746012]

>>22743068
Buy OTM calls.

[Anonymous No.22746038]

>>22745869
Do you think that publicly held debt can increase exponentially while the dollar remains strong?

[Anonymous No.22746051]

fucking cat fight on CNBC this is hilarious

[Anonymous No.22746064]

>>22745924
>promises for 20-fucking-30

enjoy holding those bags

[Anonymous No.22746072]

>>22746038
is it increasing exponentially?
also, yes
everybody on the planet is printing

[Anonymous No.22746085]

>>22745858
yeah i got fucked yesterday I'm kind of peeved

[Anonymous No.22746115]

>>22745362
>Manipulation
That's stocktwits tier cope.
I'm not necessarily bearish on metals in the long term but the dump was overdue. Inflation is and will be a meme. Bonds won't drop.

[Anonymous No.22746139]

>>22746072
Yes
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/21/federal-debt-double-gdp-cbo-419540

[Anonymous No.22746152]

>>22745924
>my ev and clean energy stocks got fucked because I didn’t sell the news in Tesla and they got drug down with Elon
Fuck

[Anonymous No.22746169]

>>22745795
>stimulus will come
any day now surely. we have the most cooperative congress in history
https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-unexpectedly-rejects-democrats-funding-174800884.html

[Anonymous No.22746171]

>DXY is over 94
>futures aren't dumping
Feels like this is the eye of the storm and extreme pain is on the menu if I fomo into something right now.

[Anonymous No.22746191]

Lumber up 11% maybe I will buy some lumber liquidators

[Anonymous No.22746196]

Why is tesla down with insane news wtf? This is now what the youtuber consensus expected.

[Anonymous No.22746201]

>>22746139
>exponential

[Anonymous No.22746206]

>>22746064
No bags for me. I'm a boring, whoa-nellie boomer investor. I'm just curious because of how much I saw about Battery Day a month ago, and then when it happened there was basically radio silence.

[Anonymous No.22746212]

>>22745924
Mmmh let me think

[Anonymous No.22746226]

>>22746169
>what are election games
Either stimulus comes and the entire country collapses later or stimulus doesn't come and the entire country collapses now.
Don't care either way, honestly.

[Anonymous No.22746229]

>>22746212
stop stretching your graphs like that

[Anonymous No.22746233]

>>22746196
Because most people aren't in it for the long game

[Anonymous No.22746234]

>>22746196
>>22746212
>why is something that has gone up parabolic going down
The absolute STATE of this board

[Anonymous No.22746245]

>>22746226
country wouldn't collapse without stimulus

[Anonymous No.22746249]

>>22746229
I didn't stretch shit you stupid r*ddit zoomer

[Anonymous No.22746254]

>>22746196
Because big money is making money shorting off the robintards that fomoed their life savings into that meme stock.

[Anonymous No.22746258]

>>22746201
It's going up a fuckton in a very linear way. We can play semantics but that doesn't address the fact it will double by 2050 which means lol @ dollar value

[Anonymous No.22746260]

>>22746249
you have no control over scale?
you're a retard who doesn't know how to use his own tools

[Anonymous No.22746261]

>>22746072
Nope... as far as I know the Russians aren´t printing, but you can´t invest there either because sanctions and US influence on Europe

[Anonymous No.22746272]

>>22746258
>linear
>exponential
you don't understand what one of these words means
and the dollar doesn't hold intrinsic value in some kind of vacuum
in order for the dollar to crater, everything (or at least something) else has to moon

[Anonymous No.22746273]

>>22744836
>>22744840
All of this, gold and silver are too good of trades to pass, the demand will not fade. ALSO inflation is the elephant in the room, the vix at 14, the black swan, call it whatever you like, the one event that 95% of pm/traders consider impossible, which means that when it will hit, the squabble for hedges/tail assets will be huge. Long vol and pm's.

[Anonymous No.22746274]

Remember to buy SNE before the ps5 is released

[Anonymous No.22746286]

>>22746260
It's on auto you stupid fuck. Go ahead and change the scale as you wish, TSLA is still going to crash

[Anonymous No.22746290]

>>22746245
Tell that to all the people who can't pay their rent or mortgage. Are they just supposed to defer and defer until they have big $10,000+ payments to deal with?
Someone has to get paid. Whether that stimulus is direct to consumers, infrastructure, towards rent/mortgage, money has to start coming into people's hands or there certainly are going to be very big problems ahead for a significant portion of the population that aren't knowledge workers.

[Anonymous No.22746295]

>>22746274
thanks fren.

[Anonymous No.22746296]

what ever happened to the SSL chads
have they necked yet

[Anonymous No.22746297]

>>22746274
Already have my 10 shares

[Anonymous No.22746303]

>>22746260
His y-axis is linear and zero-based. What exactly are you bitching about? That he zoomed out on the biggest memestock on the market?

[Anonymous No.22746306]

>>22746261
NILSY and lots of others available on various exchanges, euro/usd denominated tho. Swedish krona/assets is not a bad currency to hold, btw.

[Anonymous No.22746308]

>>22746260
Here's the log chart. Same shit retard

[Anonymous No.22746319]

>>22744836
>They can't let yields go up again, it would crash stocks by 95%
what is the logic behind this? Couldn't yeilds stay negative and stock market positive like we have today?

[Anonymous No.22746321]

>>22745104
I read this, can't this be called voter interference or fraud?
I know anyone who condemned this will be crucified by the woke patrol but this shit can't be legal.

Also, 30k votes aren't a piss in a bucket, I have no idea how that fucking Jew became so rich when he's so financially stupid.
Cool thing he's helping the nog community, specially known fellons, at least they don't hide their intention of trying to win through criminals and criminal activities

[Anonymous No.22746322]

>>22746290
individuals getting evicted or foreclosed does not mean the country collapses
not even emotional numbers of individuals
the vast majority of americans are still collecting regular paychecks

[Anonymous No.22746345]

>>22746272
That's fine, but the easiest way to deal with high debt is to weaken the value of the debt itself and the way to do that is through inflation.

[Anonymous No.22746352]

>>22746308
i'm not arguing TSLA hasn't been idiotic
i'm not arguing TSLA isn't going to go down
i'm arguing that you are being as dramatic as possible in your visual representation and that being less emotional would help you to make a stronger argument than "LOOK HOW LONG THESE LINES ARE"

[Anonymous No.22746355]

>>22746321
>I read this, can't this be called voter interference or fraud?
zh, had an article that an investigation is already in the oven

[Anonymous No.22746364]

>>22746345
i'd agree with that
but banks have to print, and they aren't doing it and don't appear eager to do it
it'll take legislation REQUIRING them to loan to joggers
that will come, but it isn't here yet

[Anonymous No.22746376]

>>22746196
Because the plan for a lot of people was to get some breakthrough news, sell it for $500+ and get out of TSLA.
Instead, Musk FUD'd his own event, and even though he delivered positive news all the scalpers heard was 'batteries hard, improvements take time' so they nope'd out. I don't see it going lower though, I think TSLA will hold pretty stable in the low $400s and creep up as the markets improve.

[Anonymous No.22746383]

>>22746272
>else has to moon
us stocks, pm's, vol, real estate, art, vintage cars etc.

[Anonymous No.22746389]

>>22746352
>being as dramatic as possible in your visual representation
I literally pulled up a monthly candlestick chart, no trend lines or anything. How the fuck is that dramatic?

[Anonymous No.22746395]

>>22746319

When yields went to 3% in late 2018, stocks immediately crashed 20%. So they can't be allowed to go up again. But they can't be made permanently negative either; Q. E. has a time-limit. Why? because the more negative yields go, the fewer real buyers of treasuries there are, the more Q. E. that is needed to suppress them, ad infinitum. Eventually you get to a point where the Fed is the only only buyer, and foreigners have dumped U. S. treasuries completely. At that point you're looking at Weimar-Germany-style hyperinflation. U. S. stocks will soar in nominal terms, as Venezuelan ones have; but, in terms of gold, commodities, mining stocks, they will be crashing into oblivion.

[Anonymous No.22746406]

>>22746383
right. in other words, EVERYTHING within needs to moon, or some other country needs to step up and become the world's dominant power in all phases of the game

[Anonymous No.22746409]

>>22746364
>but banks have to print, and they aren't doing it and don't appear eager to do it
massive loans given out cheaply, yes they are

[Anonymous No.22746427]

>>22746389
keep pissing in the wind then bro idgaf
>why won't anyone believe me i tried telling them they're retarded

>>22746409
right now? you got sauce on that?

[Anonymous No.22746432]

>>22746364
What's the hesitation with banks? They want to fuel the fire then use the strengthened dollar to buy up all the cheap assets they can and curb their competition through strict lending practices before increasing loans to then re-inflate the prices and sell off their inventory?

[Anonymous No.22746436]

>>22746196
Sell the news is a thing, buy the dip is another, hope it goes below 200 today

[Anonymous No.22746450]

>>22746432
it almost sounds all thought out when you put it that way

[Anonymous No.22746451]

>>22745453
they do always go up over the long term. besides, on average, bear markets have lasted 14 months in the period since World War II, while market corrections have lasted an average of five months. The S&P 500 index has fallen an average of 33% during bear markets in that time. basically means that if you wait at least a year or two with any long position in a good company you'll be fine. covid crash is a great example of that, even if you bought the top if you just waited you would have been fine.

>https://apnews.com/84ee301c404539d8731da34128330752

[Anonymous No.22746459]

>>22746406
>country needs to step up
won't happen, global digital currency or an fx proxy will become the solution, i don't know shit about shit, but i do know this - if usd collapses everything will either: a) collapse before usd or b) whole world collapses and new global money

[Anonymous No.22746477]

Snap 1/15/21 $21 C
Yes or no?

Yes I deleted my other thread because I posted that before I saw /smg/

[Anonymous No.22746478]

>>22743597
WHY DIDN'T I KNOW THE FUTURE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHY WASN'T I JUST CLAIRVOYANT I COULD HAVE MADE SO MUCH MONEY BROS WHY WHY WHY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

fuck off

[Anonymous No.22746483]

>>22746409
yeah, sauce on this
>>22746432
they aren't interested in blowing up the world

[Anonymous No.22746488]

>>22746477
No. I have no faith in SNAP as a company, and sustained bearish news will be fatal to overvalued tech companies.

[Anonymous No.22746495]

>>22746450
Almost

[Anonymous No.22746505]

>>22746459
if i had never read the Bible, i'd tell you you're crazy

however...
>hurrrr u ned vakseen 2 shop heer
>need visual/digital method to prove vaccination
>need currency that is remotely controllable to enforce

john the revelator would've had no way to conceive of a currency that could be controlled beyond physical reach

[Anonymous No.22746506]

>>22744836
>First of all, the CPI is a lie. John Williams' ShadowStats + the Chapwood Index put real inflation 10 percent per annum.
Inflation has an inherent measurement problem.
General increase of price levels due to an increase of the product of money supply and velocity against gdp. Inflation is just one factor of many that influence prices. You can never exactly telll what caused the price change. CPI is not a lie and 1980 CPI is not "real" inflation. They're different attempts at measuring the same thing. Regulation and
unnecessary bureaucracy has an huge influence on prices for example. We have more of that shit than ever before. How do you seperate those causes? Especially in a global lockdown like this you'd expect some price shifts.
Every time I check into pmg there's at least one guy who brings up lumber prices at proof for hyperinflation. This has nothing to do with inflation.
>They tried to yields go up in late 2018; when yields hit a nominal 3%, the Dow immediately crashed 20%,
I don't remember this all too well but even on the chance that I am wrong here I'm calling bullshit.
The market was already crashing before FOMC.
The reaction to that was purely a sentiment thing, just like the markets rising on QE now.
>Every country on earth is already racing to dump treasuries
Maybe because they're in dire need of $?
It's easier to dump bonds than metals.
And despite that bonds aren't crashing. Seems like there are enough buyers.

[Anonymous No.22746509]

>>22746355
Hope they wrap a noose around that fucking evil Jew, all of those fucking crony capitalist need to fuck off and stop interfering with democracy, if people want a fucking game show host clown as president who the fuck are this Chinese boot licking demo monarchs to tell people otherwise.
If they don't like it they can right of fuck off to some other country, I am sure England is a paradise of liberty and fucking Muslims

[Anonymous No.22746518]

>>22746483
>they aren't interested in blowing up the world

[Anonymous No.22746521]

>>22746483
Ah, yes, because (((bankers))) are so synonymous with being humanitarian.
Exxon Mobil are also environmentalists, right?

[Anonymous No.22746525]

Are you bearish or bullish for today?

https://strawpoll.com/c42u9bj17

[Anonymous No.22746543]

>>22746505
its already in development, literally every bureucrat big wig is talking about it, nobody knows how to implement it, nobody trusts each other etc, but every one knows that it must be done

[Anonymous No.22746559]

Should i dump my tesla for a 450 dollar loss and buy gme?

Probably not

[Anonymous No.22746565]

>>22746506
>Every country on earth is already racing to dump treasuries
>Maybe because they're in dire need of $?
It's easier to dump bonds than metals.
this true tho

[Anonymous No.22746570]

lads what day should i sell the following?
SHLL
LAC
DKNG
PTON
WKHS
GME

[Anonymous No.22746571]

>>22746525
Bears winning, hope the market goes black Wednesday, I have some cash burning in my pocket that I need to dump on something.

GME 6 bucks eod

[Anonymous No.22746575]

>>22746543
>but every one knows that it can be done
ftfy

[Anonymous No.22746578]

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY

[Anonymous No.22746595]

>>22746525
crabish

[Anonymous No.22746597]

>Drillisch
I love it when a plan comes together.

[Anonymous No.22746599]

>>22746578
It will open either up or down, and then in the afternnoon it will go in the opposite direction. Then at 3 it will go up or down some more

[Anonymous No.22746600]

>>22746451
>They do always go up
Spain, Japan... Oh yeah you're Americans so that can't happen to you, right?

[Anonymous No.22746602]

>>22746578
Madness!

[Anonymous No.22746603]

>>22746578
hmm line went up
maybe line go down now
maybe theta gang wins again too

[Anonymous No.22746621]

>>22746571
yikes my man

[Anonymous No.22746624]

>>22746578
down happens today

[Anonymous No.22746630]

>>22746525
It's 50/50 rn

need more votes

[Anonymous No.22746632]

>>22746578
The boys make a guess star appearance and pain the market red in zoomer blood.

God Will's it

[Anonymous No.22746637]

>>22746521
xom and wall st not the same, the survival of wall st is dependant on the survival of economy/society, yeah they do the occasional heist but overall their interests aren't robbing every motherfucker blind

[Anonymous No.22746642]

>>22746395
so, what, is the US just doomed at this point and can't be saved, then? we're just gonna become venezuela in a couple of years and no one is gonna stop it?

the main problem i see with this is that the US still has the strongest military in the world and we're not just gonna go quietly into that good night like Venezuela. then again maybe that's why the dems are trying to hard to take control of the country.

[Anonymous No.22746662]

I wish i could dump tesla and ibio so badly.

I need more gamestop

[Anonymous No.22746676]

news trying to go back to the memeflu vaccine well yet again to pump the market
>wtf why isn't it working it always worked before WHY ISN'T IT WORKING

[Anonymous No.22746689]

Yes, yes, my HelloFresh... It is time to rise.

[Anonymous No.22746697]

GME predictions for EOD?

[Anonymous No.22746711]

TSLA $300 EOD

[Anonymous No.22746713]

>>22746697
back to 4$ like a few months ago

[Anonymous No.22746742]

>>22746676
This is wuhan today

https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/367441-fotos-asi-son-fiestas-clubes-wuhan

Literally no one gives a single fuck about the meme flu, they all had it already and are beyond herd immunity.
Is literally nothing but political ploy in America at this point and is very obvious

[Anonymous No.22746757]

futures crabby as fuck

[Anonymous No.22746762]

>>22746742
upboated

[Anonymous No.22746772]

>>22746711
>TSLA $300 EOD
Sounds unrealistic for the end of the decade.

[Anonymous No.22746776]

>>22746697
PM looking good so far but it's too early to tell.
If we go up today we're approaching end game.
If we dump we need more news.

[Anonymous No.22746781]

>>22746757
i'd call them pump-and-dumpy

[Anonymous No.22746786]

>>22746637
>usury
>not robbing people blind
lol are you really trying to defend the practices of bankers? Keeping people in perpetual debt is precisely how they make money and there is absolutely nothing beneficial to society as a whole about that.

[Anonymous No.22746790]

>>22746676
memeflue vaccine is the new chinese trade deal, it will eventuall always work.

[Anonymous No.22746791]

>three scheduled televised presidential debates, beginning on Sept. 29.

These are going to crash the markets so hard

[Anonymous No.22746801]

>>22746742
meme flu isn't even any more dangerous than regular flu
i am pretty astonished by the media's ability to exploit the retardation of the general populace to keep the panic going through the summer and drive the societal divide even more

[Anonymous No.22746808]

>>22746791
i should've bought my SQQQ calls further out

[Anonymous No.22746825]

>all this controversy over chinese flu, bubbles, crashes, uncertainty and scary shit
>futures OOOO and AAAA'ing

>be me, a day trader who accepts no overnight risk whatsoever

[Anonymous No.22746826]

DXY is pumping again and PM /smg/ is even less populated

[Anonymous No.22746836]

>>22746559
no buy KTOV instead

[Anonymous No.22746862]

>>22746801
It was all a ploy from the get go, the chinks have been working on this meme shit for years.
They knew how lethal it was I wouldn't be surprised if they had a vaccine before hand and all the CCP got it before they realised this shit in the general public.

It was a ploy from the get go, they can't even hide it anymore, pic related

[Anonymous No.22746880]

>>22746427
>
Nice argument

[Anonymous No.22746890]

>>22746862
>They knew how lethal it was I wouldn't be surprised if they had a vaccine before hand
if they knew how lethal it was why would they bother with a vaccine

[Anonymous No.22746920]

>>22746742
How do I get chinese metalhead gf?

[Anonymous No.22746933]

>>22746920
Really? This thing?

[Anonymous No.22746942]

>>22746890
Why not

[Anonymous No.22746971]

Most of biz is bearish so I am going to be bullish today because biz is retarded

[Anonymous No.22746977]

>>22746862
>They knew how lethal it was I wouldn't be surprised if they had a vaccine before hand
Why the fuck would they make a vaccine for something that mostly only kills the old, obese, diabetic, and/or vitamin deficient?

[Anonymous No.22746985]

>>22746971
That's because the bulls all got margin called

[Anonymous No.22746994]

>>22746786
You say that like it's the bankers doing it, rather than the people taking out a second mortgage so that they can send their kids to clown college and go on a cruise with what's left over.

[Anonymous No.22746997]

>>22746985
When?

[Anonymous No.22746998]

>>22746395
Nobody is listening to you fags anymore, your theory has been utterly discredited in the past month. Get fucked, you’re worse than Bobos.

[Anonymous No.22747003]

Who ever has been shilling BLNK I just bought a thousand of your bags

[Anonymous No.22747005]

>>22746920
You don't, they are disgusting

[Anonymous No.22747009]

>>22746977
My point exactly
The Chinese have no problem with death
They made a huge overreaction to the memeflu to get the rest of the world to go into WTFZOMGmode

[Anonymous No.22747012]

>>22746971
Biz already expects you to do the opposite of what biz says, so just do what biz says-biz won't expect that

[Anonymous No.22747013]

Fuck it I made a new thread
>>22746980
>>22746980

>>22746980
>>22746980

>>22746980
>>22746980

[Anonymous No.22747018]

>>22746862
>They knew how lethal it was
..not at all very much?

[Anonymous No.22747024]

>>22747012
That’s what biz expects you to do

[Anonymous No.22747026]

>>22746994
Or spending $500 a month on a car note, then wondering why they can't retire. $500 a month would max out a ROTH.

[Anonymous No.22747028]

>>22746997
End of last week, if /smg/ speed is an indicator

[Anonymous No.22747050]

>>22747028
Yeah, so why they bringing it up for this week

[Anonymous No.22747051]

>>22747013
>290

[Anonymous No.22747077]

>>22747050
Wat

[Anonymous No.22747103]

>>22746757
You have no idea the toll that three red days have on a man. Snip snap snip snap snip snap.

[Anonymous No.22747162]

>>22743330
Been sending nudes since she was 15 bro kek

[Anonymous No.22747204]

>>22746920
you dont

[Anonymous No.22747225]

>>22747051
Move to the new one, this shit been up all night

[Anonymous No.22747279]

buy SPI before market opens or youll regret it

[Anonymous No.22747378]

>>22744221
We just had a correction lmao.
I think the whole market is aware that stimulus is extremely unlikely until after the election.

Vaccine, market don't care either. Thats just for normies to keep the sheep believing in the meme.

[Anonymous No.22747445]

>>22746171
>>22746171
I would really love to hear an anons explanation of how this can happen...

[Anonymous No.22747519]

>>22746196

[Anonymous No.22747533]

when i google a random ticker it doesnt display on the top of google anymore. Does this happen to anyone esle? My desktop display looks like the format for a tablet also. Did google just change again?

[Anonymous No.22747661]

>>22744745
Artia really is best girl sometimes

[Anonymous No.22747721]

>>22747533
it still shows the ticker's charts for me

[Anonymous No.22747818]

>>22747721
this is what i see on my desktop.

[Anonymous No.22747862]

>>22746229
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha