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Hello, I'm your better
Here's a bone for those of you who figured out link and the 4th industrial revolution
Smartcontract's team will change not only the financial landscape but also the entire fabric of society
The reality of the world, which some of you have figured out, is that the wealthiest echelons really do make all the relevant decisions
In the United States there are about 15000 families that fall into this category
Contrary to the fantasies we feed you working class, the majority of people in that group are exactly who you would want to have power: self made wealth with strong morals
There are, of course, exceptions. This has been true since the beginning of time
But those exceptions exist because we allow them, not because we like them
In fact we look down on flashy money and dirty money just like we look down on the average idiot without the self discipline to not spend his entire paycheck

It's been collectively decided that it's time to shake things up...

>> No.22634975

>>22634946
The reality is that token not needed. Not your board anymore, stinky linky, we're here to make money, not buy xrp esque tokens

>> No.22635021

>>22634946
you mean the jews. we know. you always win with jews. go red pill someone else.

>> No.22635062

>>22634946
There will always be a parasite upper class
In the old days it was the merchants who scammed working stiffs with snake oils
Then it was money men
Then tech nerds
But, just like a rapper or car salesman, these are just visitors
Because the ultimate hedge is not gold or land or firearms, it is genetics
It's not hard to spot the permanent upper class of any society: they are tall, intelligent and well mannered
Those properties outperform in every market
And now on to smart contracts

>> No.22635106

>>22634946
Those are all men.

>> No.22635112

>>22635062
Explain how being tall helps my starving children eat

>> No.22635150

>>22635062
The reason these visitors strive so hard is to get at the ultimate prize: the ability to admix your inferior genes with someone who is better than you in every way
And your betters are getting quite tired of the current visitor class which is comprised of people who have identified trust resources and started sucking them dry
Think every insurer who lobbies the government to increase the legally required insurance requirements
Every administrator who works hard to increase their government budget
Every person just advocating for "consumer interests" or "green technology" that just happens to result in government grants for them, no strings attached
They're the same ugly orcs that ruin our parties and can't maintain social graces
So it's time to retire them by automating away their margin
You think that a trustless smart contract is useful to sell your little trinket because you don't know how the upper crust really works, but let me tell you how big the value add really is...

>> No.22635214

>>22635150
Everyone knows that legacy derivatives models have huge overheads, but how are they justifiable? Is it just farmers hedging crop prices?
Think about this question for a second and ask yourself honestly if you know the answer. If you do, you have a chance of being someone in power, if you don't you're hopelessly property:

I am a business founder and have 500mm in poor liquidity equity. I want to buy a 20mm yacht. How do I do it?

Answer to follow

>> No.22635215

>>22635112
those characteristics were found on the battlefield in ancient times. they were not the farmers, they were the warlords. the upper class today descends from those very warlords. it stems from the fall of Rome, after decentralization (migration period), the best and brightest of the German clans developed into the modern dynasties.

these are the traits of the ruling class.

>> No.22635252

>>22635214
borrow the money and leverage the debt?

>> No.22635272

>>22635215
OK but that doesn’t make it much of a financial hedge which is what was insinuated.

>> No.22635314

>>22635214
To those of you thinking that I spend months offloading equity, then pay 20% cap gains tax on that money, then buy the yacht- you are cattle.

In reality your private banker gives a loan (the interest of which is tax deductible) to another business entity over which you have control. The yacht is then sold to that entity and you are able to depreciate it to offset those positive returns you have to take to buy food, gas and all of the other non-large ticket items that might give you a tax burden.
If you're paying any net tax in this situation, you're doing it wrong.

And back to the parasitic rich
They're the dumb ugly ones that live off the taxes the working class pay
And they take margins and overheads from the middle class
And to be honest, we won't miss them

>> No.22635331

>>22635272
if you are smarter and taller, you will make more money statistically.

>> No.22635366

>>22635314
Finally let me make my point:
If you simply buy the assets that will be bankrupting this temporary rich class, you will become them

If you become them you have a simple choice: follow in their footsteps and have us eventually become sick of you, or learn from your betters and become permanent

Don't ever forget: you can take all of our money, all of our power and reset society to the caveman days. It doesn't matter. Within 20 years we'll be back on top, like we have since time immemorial.

Best of luck new friends. You will need it.

>> No.22635410

>being tall = upper class
Holy fuck you basement dwelling schizos never fail to amaze me

>> No.22635417

>>22635331
But it’s not a hedge.

>> No.22635431

>>22635410
manlet cope.

>> No.22635449

>>22635417
I suppose

>> No.22635457

>>22635410
t. short, poor, and retarded

>> No.22635482

>>22635112
You appear poor at thinking
If you are short and dumb, starvation is the natural state of your children
If your society is starving, the tall, strong and beautiful will be the only ones to eat

>> No.22635504

>>22635449
You’re correct being smart helps make more money. Being tall naturally puts you in a better spot for management which usually means more money. All I meant is it’s not a direct hedge itself. As OP said, genetics is a better hedge than gold or land. This is retard tier, because hedging implies a certain scarcity in what asset baskets I can put in my portfolio, and I can’t buy or sell genetics but I can buy land and gold.

>> No.22635527

>>22634946
>Contrary to the fantasies we feed you working class, the majority of people in that group are exactly who you would want to have power: self made wealth with strong morals
uh, ok bro

>> No.22635546

>>22635482
You’re retarded and extremely vain. Going to go out on a limb and your parents were successful and this is your form of coping by not doing anything successful yourself so you focus on superficialities lol. Get rekt. Do you even know where you’re posting?

>> No.22635552

>>22635272
A hedge is an action which is not felt to be immediately most expeditious but that protects against external and downside risk
It isn't most expeditious to be disciplined, polite, take the time to practice excellent personal hygiene and care about physical beauty. But in the event that wealth is lost, those things will quickly bring a person back to the upper class

Conversely, the ugly rich are nothing but tourists who eventually return to where they belong

>> No.22635581

>>22635552
Hedging implies physical assets that you can buy and sell.

>> No.22635588

>>22635552
I'm aryan, blue eyes, but only 5'10'' manlet, will my genes survive or am I doomed

>> No.22635593

>>22635527
This is an excellent example of why the lies are so effective: this person is proud of their belief in moral superiority to the rich despite every piece of evidence pointing to the contrary
He is more interested in protecting his fragile ego that in the very nature of his own life

We used to keep people like this in chains and beat them to maintain control, now all we have to do is allow them to lie to themselves and they thank us for being their masters.

Impressive, no?

>> No.22635626

>>22635546
I know exactly where I'm posting
That is why I am posting here
To give you fair warning

>>22635581
Physical beauty, intelligence and social grace are the most liquid assets on earth
They can be leveraged even in societies where markets are "illegal"
Do you understand?

>> No.22635629

>>22635588
You will be fine fellow indo. As long as you stay sharp

>> No.22635667

>>22635214
>I am a business founder and have 500mm in poor liquidity equity.

prove it. show account details faggot

>> No.22635672

>itt:schizos

>> No.22635682

>>22635626
I understand that you feel this way because you are coping with being born into privilege but not living up to your parents expectation, so you are projecting your desired beliefs that superficiality has worth (due to your lack of any tangible skill) on an anonymous Vietnamese crossbow hunting board.

>> No.22635712

These LARPs are interesting but tiresome because of how poorly executed they are.

OP you haven't told us to buy LINK yet will you hurry up?

>> No.22635714

>>22635667
It appears you're not even smart enough to read a series of sentences and follow along.
This was an example given to test your real world knowledge
Do you understand?

>> No.22635728

>the tall and beautiful run society
>also claims that jewish manlets are ruining his life
Lol

>> No.22635739

>>22635714
post bank statement or shut the fuck up

>> No.22635741

>>22635682
The lack of self awareness here is stunning
There are two possibilities and you've missed the point for both:
- I am a self made person who is telling you this to help your journey
- I am from a prominent family and have all of the above characteristics which I have been saying are the ultimate goal
Do you get it now?

>> No.22635765

>>22635739
The most telling characteristic of the slave class is being confident and wrong
You and your people deserve your station in life

>> No.22635766

>>22635728
jewish manlets ruin everyone's lives anon

>> No.22635769

>>22635626
Post hand pajeet

>> No.22635785

>>22635765
yeah thats i thought. you are full of shit

>> No.22635794

>>22635765
When LINKLARP?

>> No.22635799

The Rothschild larp also mentioned genes and bloodlines being the most important asset. Hmmm

>> No.22635800

>>22635366
I appreciate you anon, but I don't think I want to be a part of that class. I think I'll just be rich, own land, be charitable and take care of my family. Don't particularly care for power and the yacht and mansion and Eyes Wide Shut parties.

>> No.22635811

OP is not wrong in many ways. Having dabbled with the upper crusts I can confirm. Nevertheless, there is one inconsistency. OP says upper crusts are all self-made strong morals....that holds true for one or two generations, perhaps, but by the time you reach the third it's hardly 'self-made' anymore. Strong morals, maybe, self-made, no. At which point the argument that 'this is who we want ruling' sort of collapses. Additionally, strong morals according to whom? Saudi fags would say stoning gays is strong morals. Is it?

I agree with OP on most things, but the bit as a whole I think is a little much. Upper crusts do look down on tourists and normies, but that itself is a show of weak morals. Strong morals would be helping people become better, not smirking from an ivory tower.

>> No.22635826

>>22635741
Nobody here wants your help lmao. I work in fortune 100 in R&D. I deal with people like you all the time. It drives you insane that there are people like me who weren’t born with your hyper privilege and still run laps around you. I’m German, 6’0, green eyes, well built. And yet I don’t rely on my looks or societal position to feel like I’m living a meaningful life lmao

>> No.22635844

>>22635799
Why engage in the "cycle" if you have the choice to go free in this lifetime?

>> No.22635849

>>22635593

Don’t worry kid you’re gonna make it

>> No.22635907

>>22635799
Isn't it hilarious that common people think the Rothschilds, British crown, Soros' and Kochs matter?
You have to admit that was a pretty good one too.

>> No.22635935

>>22635907
you're bad at this LARP. previous schizoposters were superior to you.

Shill your coin, make your prediction, get to your climax LARPer. Let's go already.

>> No.22635941

OP can you please get rid of the jews for us? Are they just here to do the dirty work?
I'm sure you aren't jewish yourself if you are bragging about your genetics.

>> No.22635947

>>22635800
This is the mindset of those who get to the top and stay there.
Intrinsically moral behavior is the only constant of those who truly leave legacies. Generation over generation your people will become better human beings if your focus is morality rather than money. That in turn leads to other similar people seeking you out.
This is how the cycle perpetuates

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22635986

>>22634975
Keep coping salty plebbitor

>> No.22636000

>>22634946
retarded nigger, kys

>> No.22636048

>>22635593
wow edgy

>> No.22636089

>>22635112
Average height of a CEO is over 6’

>> No.22636140

So buy more LINK? i dont get your point OP. Im not ganna be a nigger if I make it obviously

>> No.22636155

>>22635021
With jews you lose

>> No.22636179

>>22635546
Cope overload. What he said is not opinion it is fact. Height is a huge advantage in life whether it makes sense or not

>> No.22636204

>>22635811
You are almost there
If you think a little more, you might get it
Here's a hint: do you think that any group or family that really has money wants you to know?
Conversely, do you think that there are any groups that have far less than they would (desperately) like you to think?

>> No.22636235

>>22635826
You're making an excellent point for me: genes are necessary but not sufficient.
You're a slave to another one of our favorite lies: that cowardice isn't the gravest of sins
Think about your life. You are a slave for money to a non-coward. If you have the ability to dictate your own life, and you don't, you are the worst of failures. These types tend to be the angry engineers of society who refuse to simply open their eyes and see the truth because they are so desperate to not disrupt their delicate worldview.

>> No.22636275

>>22635935
You're missing the entire point
I'm not shilling anything
I'm putting out a filter for the many here who will eventually rub elbows with people like me
I am invested in having the high quality among you stay
And the majority return to where they rightly belong

>> No.22636278

>>22635214
>I want to buy a 20mm yacht
What is this, a yacht for ants?

>> No.22636349

>>22636179
Is it though? How about back trouble? And sitting on planes? I'd rather be average height, desu. Lanky people take up too much room, and most of them don't like it, as far as I can tell.

>> No.22636351

>>22635504
>some 50k middle management job

>> No.22636371

>>22635682
Fucking #rekt

>> No.22636381

>>22635941
Let me comment about the Jews for a second:
A good rule of thumb for life is if someone tells you they are something, generally believe them
Many men have ruined their lives by trying to fix women who have outright told them theyre broken

So what do the jews say they are?
They say they are very interested in the success of their group
They say they are very interested in education in order to accumulate wealth
They say they believe they are the chosen people of God and believe the rest of mankind exist to serve them

If we wanted to, we could make the jews cease to exist in a week, but we really don't need to
Remember an institution is only as prestigious as the people who make it up
An asset is only as valuable as others find it to be
Do you think the above aspects of jewish culture will always be advantageous?

>> No.22636383

>>22636204
>>22636235
The bemused whimsical LARPing schizoposter is a holdover from the earlier internet days. Your heyday was in the pre-2012 years when you could go to a conspiracy forum and enamor boomers into thinking you’re performing some ritualistic requirement of your Family to inform the plebs of sekrets.

It just doesn’t ring true anymore. Nobody believes you. You have no power. Nobody in the elite would spend time on an anime imageboard leaving proof-less, context-free pretentiousposts just to get themselves off.

It’s Saturday go for a fucking walk or something. Coping with being a wageslave by making this thread won’t help you.

>> No.22636394

>>22634946
>>argue with a pretend 0.5%er on a weeb board full of mongos and autists
Costanza.png

>> No.22636500

>>22635112
Oh nono Dinkabros

>> No.22636504

>>22636349
I can tell you with certainty that any tall man would not trade his height for any amount of money

>>22636383
Please try to read and keep up. I have a direct vested interest in people here knowing this. There will be at least 70 people who frequent this board attaining this level of wealth. I would like them to do it right.

>> No.22636529

>>22636504
You haven’t said anything of substance but have congratulated yourself for what you’ve “divulged” about five times now.

>> No.22636605

what do i need to buy now in order to make it? is it LINK?

>> No.22636654

>>22636529
I've given you more collective thought than the entirety of responses in this thread.
And since I'm such a fine person, here's another something you clearly don't deserve:

Let's say I had a child who wanted to go to a college in Manhattan. I'll either rent or buy them a nice place. We went over (above) how I could purchase a nice apartment while sheltering myself from taxes. How could I use easily available derivatives to rent one?

>> No.22636662

Tell us about Link, do numbers go up or down, and when?
Also look at this based id

>> No.22636683

>>22636504
so what's the first thing they should do upon attaining it?

>> No.22636696

>>22636662
That is a based id fren, almost quads too. Yeah just give us the goods this larp isn't entertaining anymore.

>> No.22636736

So if I'm tall I shouldn't marry a short cute mexican girl?

>> No.22636738
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22636738

>>22635626
>Physical beauty, intelligence and social grace are the most liquid assets on earth
How wrong you are. The most liquid asset on this dying earth is the Grace of God. It is freely given, and freely taken away.
We are dying, and the last thing I want is to fill my tax deductible yacht with living corpses.

>> No.22636821

>>22634946
Stfu Nader

>> No.22636877

>>22636683
The first thing once you've won the prize is to start enjoying it. Introduce yourself to those of your class and be humble as you learn the norms of the new society. There is a reason things are done the way they are.
You will be surprised how much better your life is when you are surrounded by graceful beautiful women and kind confident men.

>>22636736
If you'd like to truly make the right decision consider this: what parts of you are objectively bad? Find a spouse that compliments your shortcomings. If you are very tall and pale, an otherwise excellent (intelligent, virgin, from a good family) shorter brown skinned woman may be the ideal choice. Far too many fall in love with what they see in the mirror and perpetuate the mistakes of their genetics, rather than fixing them.

>>22636738
Every one of the things I've espoused is direct Biblical knowledge. God directly recommends moral behavior, investing and humility.

>> No.22636917

>>22636204
>6

>>22636204

No of course not. Groups that have money only stand to lose it by divulging the information, and conversely groups that have little have much to gain by self-shilling and little to lose.

Still though, if we accept the premise as a whole, I don't entirely understand how the 'invisible hand' (let's call it that for now) maintains morality and self-madeness past a generation or two, and what is done with those who lose the morality or self-madeness in the 3rd generation or on. Does it count as self-made to just eat up a big inheritance and hire wageslaves to reinvest it wisely? At a certain point wealth growth enough that it grows faster than it's spent. And, ss they say, one rotten apple spoils the bunch.

In my interactions with the upper crusts I've noticed the self-protecting nature of everything. Including rather negative aspects. But the problem with that is that it insulates those weaker 3rd generation links onwards from any scrutiny and breeds corruption. What is there to say that of the 15K families making up the (let's call it this for now) 'invisible hand', that 1k, 2k, or even 7k are not running a side gambit due to this effect?

A collective decision to shake things up works if the entire collective pulls one way.

Also, re cowardice, it's easy enough to risk things when you have a big enough asset safety net to fall back on. It's hardly bravery when losses can more easily be recouped. You mention looking down on those that spend their entire paycheck but in a world of wage stagnation that becomes more and more people and not so much by choice. Sure everybody could eat beans and rice and still save some, but then doesn't that fall into the trap of being more concerned with money than morality, particular when, as now, many low end goods are manufactured through forced labour in China & the like? Is it not, in light of that, arguably more moral to spend the entire paycheck on more moral goods?

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22636930

Okay but do we need a coin for smart contracts? Do you not think other companies would just develop their own protocols to use? Chainlink is open source so anyone can just make their own version anyway legally....

You lost. give up. This is a Uni board now. Chainlink is now boomer tier. If you unironically hold Chainlink you are a boomer. Get with the time, Gramps.

>> No.22636978

Alright OP said 70 people on here will attain this level of wealth, and he's talking about link, so what's that level? If we look at the top 70 link wallets, and cut off the ones that obviously aren't anons, the cutoff is about 500k link. So 500k times 2k = 1 billion.
If the cutoff is billionaires, OP is saying link will hit 2k.

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>>22636504
What if I'm a manlet (5'7)?

>> No.22637001

>>22634946
Flare kills Link or Link becomes tokenized on flare network. Either way, nazarov will be a footnote in history to banker ingenuity.

>> No.22637021

>>22634946
>In fact we look down on flashy money and dirty money just like we look down on the average idiot without the self discipline to not spend his entire paycheck

Lel. People in the USA aren't paid what they are truly owed for services rendered due to the rich taking every shortcut conceivable to avoid doing so, so you can take your money to hell with you. Twats.

>> No.22637068

>>22634946
Sorry OP. Token not needed. Stink.

>> No.22637084

>>22635410
This is correct though. You have to be pretty blind not to see it. I'm 5"3' and I can tell you that life is objectively harder.

>> No.22637286

>>22635741
>self made
>from a prominent family
You just contradicted yourself there, fag.

>> No.22637422

>>22636917
This is the viewpoint of an outsider looking in.
Here is the reality:
If you are of a good family, you have every advantage. That said, there is large variability in children.
The smart and disciplined families have 2-5 kids and raise them as well as they can. Those that decide of their own accord to be immoral and selfish are quickly cut off and suffer the consequences of their actions.
Contrary to what you believe, there is no fortune big enough that it can't be squandered in a single generation. There are steps that can be taken to protect 4/5 children from one bad one, but if you are a selfish parent, have only one child and that one is a failure, it is your fault.

With respect to cowardice: read the words you wrote from the perspective of someone who is wealthy and self made. They almost universally had to take those same risks you are saying are not possible. If you live in a modern country you can eat and live far below what even a poverty level wage will provide. It is not fun, but it is absolutely possible. Those telling you it is not are failures themselves who are desperate to see others not succeed where they failed.

>> No.22637427

>>22636877
You insist being moral and yet you act so condescending. Take your meds.

>> No.22637458

>>22636991
You should do what everyone else does instinctually: minimize the impact (elevator shoes, good grooming, strong social skills) and work to make things better for your children.
If you marry a 5'7" woman you can do the above and look like the perfect couple; your children will benefit from genetics on her side that are in the top 10% of height and you can experience one of the greatest joys in life: seeing your children have success where you yourself struggled.

>> No.22637469

>>22635593
The lies are transparently bunk anyway. It is reassuring to tell yourself that the rich are all thieves. But thieves by definition only rearrange the arrangement of stuff, which doesn't answer the question "where does all the stuff come from?"

>> No.22637491

LARPLARPLARPLARPLARPLARPLARPLARPLARPLARP

>> No.22637513

>>22635062
>they are tall, intelligent and well mannered
Are you retarded? The average entrepreneurial Jew/Italian/Greek/Persian is not tall. 99% of white angloshits get outperformed by 1st generation immigrants from the above ethnicities.

>> No.22637514

>>22637458
Well said high-class anon but
>elevator shoes
That's a bit cringe if I'm being honest.

>> No.22637557

>>22636877
>virgin women

Explain how its possible to meet a virgin woman in 2020.

>> No.22637647

>>22634975
>not your board anymore
>anymore
>implying he was here during it "was" our board
Why didn't you do anything about it during that time?

>> No.22637655

>>22637422

Well yes, it is. Like I said, I've dabbled with the upper crusts but I most definitely did not fit in & was too immature at the time to understand properly, so definitely outsider viewpoint.

Fair enough re the method by which to prune the bad apples. Re fortune, I didn't say that it couldn't be squandered, just that even with selfishness and immorality, some fortunes are big enough that with a modicum of self-restrain they would stay the same or still grow while being used improperly. The problem is when you're left with the only-child bad apple who is still part of the 15K, and there is more than 1. What then?

Re corwardice... sure, wealthy /and/ self-made. But you mentioned 15K families. As you yourself said, if of a good family then you have every advantage, so it isn't really self-made, i.e. there's no risk of failure there per se unless they turn out to be bad apples. There's no eating rice and beans hoping to make it. For the self-made, sure, it is, but you yourself said 15K families in part derived from dynasties going back to roman times. I suspect it's not a majority that are self-made in light of the long history. Also, I'm not saying taking the risks is not possible, but rather that it can arguably be immoral to take the risk and rely on things you know are made by actual slaves when you have the choice to spend more and support industry which is made up of people who want to do the things they're doing/have a passion for it. In which case, isn't it arguably worse, on a global level, to not spend? Don't get me wrong, I've recently realized my shortcomings in this respect and been working hard not to be one of these spend everything folk, but I also like discussion and hearing differing viewpoints, so I gotta ask^.

>> No.22637670

OP I’m wondering when you’re going to shill smart contracts more. Will you hurry up?

>> No.22637764

>>22637655
If you have every advantage and make something of yourself, you're still making something of yourself even though you've skipped some of the intermediate steps. And there are enough examples of shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations that it is clear that people are perfectly capable of fucking up for themselves any starting point they might have through the conditions of their birth. Denigrating success is small-minded in any case, sounds a lot like sour grapes, and not just to the successful.

>> No.22637855

>>22637469
Just the ability to do basic logical testing like this post is a major difference between those that are in power and those that are not. It is stunning how little thought has gone into most people's core beliefs outside of "this makes me feel good about myself."

>>22637513
Those first and second generation immigrants understand what I am saying far better than you do. They want exactly what they should want: to be a part of the 1% of Anglo-whites that have always been, are currently, and always will be on top.

>>22637514
Its simply a choice
If you accept the reality of life that people are incredibly influenced by superficial factors then you can act accordingly
You can also refuse to accept it and make decisions based on a non-reality that you've constructed to make yourself feel better

>>22637557
There are a few main channels but the truth of the matter is that you can find them everywhere, you just have to understand you will find proportionally fewer at a concert than you will at church.

#1 Non-secularist Churches
#2 As an introduction from a high quality social circle (how do you think beautiful shy women find husbands?)
#3 Environments enriched with younger women (colleges, volunteer environments)
Like every other thing there exists a market and virgin women are of the highest value so do what you would do when seeking anything else high value: be prepared to compete and be prepared to find new markets where emerging gems may exist.

>> No.22637870

>>22637764

Making something of yourself and being 'self-made' are two different things in my view. Perhaps I should've been clearer on that.

Sure you can make something of yourself, but you're not 'self-made'.

It's kind of like running world records. How many of the 50 fastest 100m runs were set by people who used drugs to achieve them? They still set the world records, to be sure. It's still an achievement in human capability. But it isn't really comparable to the achievement of those who did so without the drugs. Skipping the intermediate steps is significant, and it isn't just a question of sour grapes, since, like I said, in my view it's still an achievement. Ditto for those who are 'self-made' vs. those who start from wealth and still make something of themselves.

>> No.22637902

>>22634946

kys Ranjeet

>> No.22637939

>>22637458
So what do you think link‘s price eoy 2021 will be?
Good posts btw.

>> No.22637940

>>22637870
>Making something of yourself and being 'self-made' are two different things in my view.

They are not different things, though. If you're getting up every morning to contend doing something with the world that wasn't handed or forced on you by your family, you are self-made. It is going your own direction that induces the condition.

>> No.22638015

>>22637940

Agree to disagree in the context of this thread.

I don't think OP was using self-made to also denote hermits and preppers, which could well be included by your definition.

Not saying I entirely disagree, just that that definition doesn't fit well with the 15K invisible hand approach.

>> No.22638047

>>22638015
Hermits and preppers are by definition groups of people looking to withdraw from the world for various reasons. You will note I said self-made people are doing something with it.

>> No.22638074

>>22637940

Clarification 2:

For concrete examples:

1) Person starts in poor family. Works ass off. Eats beans and rice. Invests wisely. Grows good circles. Eventually reaches 1%. = Self-made.

2) Person from rich family handed every advantage. Doesn't need to strive or work particularly hard to advance, just needs to maintain position. Already has good circles, good investments, good opportunities. Stays positive. Stays good. Stays successful. = has made something of themselves.


To me 'self-made' denotes self-reliance, whereas 'making something of yourself' doesn't necessarily.

Hope this clarifies.

>> No.22638076
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"Why have you come out into the desert? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a man clothed in fine garments like your kings and your great men? Upon them are the fine garments, and they are unable to discern the truth."

>> No.22638158

>>22638047

Fair enough. Though I would still argue that a person from wealth who stays in the upper crust is not self-made anymore than a high performance athlete who dopes. Both are high achievers. Both may deserve respect. Being from wealth doesn't guarantee success, just as doping does not. But again I would argue there's a qualitative difference between them and those who are 'self-made'.

Heck, even something as simple as getting good marks at college. Wealth permits you to buy essays and exam answers and tutors. i.e. skip the intermediate steps. Poverty doesn't; it forces you to go through the intermediate steps. So when the former achieves the same mark as the latter it's not quite as meaningful. Sure there's much more that goes into ultimate success than a simple mark, but at each stage having the advantage means less work, which is cumulatively rather significant.

If you disagree I would love to hear why (genuinely).

>> No.22638195

>>22637655
If your complaint is that those acting in an immoral manner don't lose their wealth fast enough then I do not have anything to console you. One reason parents do want to leave their children resources is so that every generation doesn't have to be perfect, just that they have to carry on the line, which is what really matters.

With respect to wealthy children having every advantage, that does not mean that significant class mobility (greater than ever before historically) does not exist. I am here trying to shill actions that prevent class cycling and ensure upward mobility.

>>22637670
I am shilling life choices to those who already understand smart contracts.

>>22637939
I don't know
Anyone who tells you they know the future prices of assets is intrinsically lying or stupid as, if they truly did, that information would be highly valuable if not divulged

>> No.22638240

>>22638074
>>22638158
>If you disagree I would love to hear why (genuinely).
Okay, I'll lay it out for you, using your example:

>Person from rich family handed every advantage. Doesn't need to strive or work particularly hard to advance, just needs to maintain position. Already has good circles, good investments, good opportunities. Stays positive. Stays good. Stays successful. = has made something of themselves.

Very clearly this is also not easy, judging from the burnout rates of the 1%. Maintaining your position in a world of constant growth means constantly growing as well. Maintaining that position near or at the pinnacle means you must be constantly growing your position at a rate commensurate with every other shooting star, which means *at minimum* you need to be clued into their potential, which means you need to have all of the skills you'd need to go from shirtsleeves to three-piece suits. And starting in an environment where it's not life-or-death for makes it that much harder to develop that keenness. That some families manage it, for decades or centuries at a time? That's the superiority OP talks about and it's also why I don't think you can plausibly argue that it is less of an achievement.

>> No.22638241

how much time do you think we have left? I'm doing everything I can to position myself for what's coming. Everything you say has been evident to me for some time, but my family's errors have taken me a long time to overcome.

>> No.22638270

>>22638195
>am here trying to shill actions that prevent class cycling and ensure upward mobility.

No complaint fren, just questions and curiosity.

Unlike the rest I don't think you're larping. I've dealt with enough upper crusters to have some sense that what you're saying is not total bunk.

I rather enjoy a good discussion; I think it exposes how people think and operate, and there's something to learn from anyone and everyone.

How are we to learn if not by asking?

>> No.22638273

one of the most satisfying larps i've ever read, OP. thank you, i actually feel i learned something from this.

>> No.22638309

>>22638195
I know you don’t know I was just curious about a guess you might make. Anyway fair enough, I’m holding regardless.
t. top 500 wallet

>> No.22638422

>>22638240

Okay. I see what you're saying.

But I don't entirely agree, still. My experience with upper crusters have been that they are better at forming a cohesive whole than most, and that the connections between each other are quite strong. Again, stronger than most. In turn, that means they don't actually need all of the skills they'd need to go from shirtsleeves to 3 piece suits if for no other reason then that they have largely been among equals, and never been the inferior. There's no 'breaking into' a society that they need to do. The skills they have keep them there, to be sure. But I think it's much harder to bust in than to stay, although I will agree that it's harder to developing staying skills when it's not life or death and that that is down to the families.

But by your example, maintaining your position at or near the pinnacle means you must be constantly growing your position at a rate commensurate with every other shooting star. But somebody who starts from nothing must grow much faster to ever dream of achieving that position. Is that faster growth, comparatively, not then a bigger achievement than that of developing staying skills in a non-life-or-death situation? I would suggest it is.

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I like this OP.
He's thinking. He's smart.
Cheers, m8.

>> No.22638499

>>22635947
>This is the mindset of those who get to the top and stay there.
>Intrinsically moral behavior is the only constant of those who truly leave legacies. Generation over generation your people will become better human beings if your focus is morality rather than money. That in turn leads to other similar people seeking you out.
>This is how the cycle perpetuates

OP, I'm glad I found this post. I'm trying to wrap my mind around what you're saying and trying to understand it. Hopefully I can make it one day with my crypto bags.

I want to use my wealth and power to improve the quality of life for myself first and the people around me, and then I'd like to implement a lot of ideas I've had through charity. I want to also build generational wealth for my family.

I've always wanted to befriend people in old money circles. How do you suggest I go about doing it? What kinds of qualities do they look for in friends?

>> No.22638509

Can you get to the chainlink shill please?

>> No.22638512

>>22638422
>Is that faster growth, comparatively, not then a bigger achievement than that of developing staying skills in a non-life-or-death situation? I would suggest it is.

Yes, but I would say the gap is much smaller than most people want to admit to themselves, especially considering that the end result of a poor person breaching that societal wall is assimilation by that in-group.

>> No.22638541

What determines your rank is the quantum of power you are: the rest is cowardice - t. NEETzsche.
But why come to 4chan with this of all places.

>> No.22638556

>>22638512

That's true. I fucked up a significant prior chance to do so, so I know from experience it isn't as big of a gap as made out. Perhaps next time, if there is one.

>> No.22638619

>>22638556

It's just one of those topics that people are really seething about because if its primarily a mindset problem, then the fault lies individually. But if its a social problem then no individual blame can be issued so they feel no remorse wallowing in muck. And people will follow that narrative, until it literally kills them if need be. It is truly the gravest sin; what OP called cowardice and what I call shirking.

>> No.22638665

>>22638241
I don't know how long, but I do know that almost universally things take longer than anticipated. That doesn't mean they won't happen.
It sounds to me like you've already won. A very hard life skill (and also one that makes an excellent positive signal when looking for other high quality people) is a fully internalized locus of control with respect to decision making.

Using studying for a test as an example:
Bad students pretend it will never happen and cram last minute
Good students study and are happy if they get a good grade, sad if they don't
Truly high quality people first look and ask how valuable time spent gaining knowledge is. In general they realize this is very high value, but not so high value they should destroy their lives for it. They then allocate a reasonable amount of time to studying and fully own the result, good or bad. That way their outcome is not linked to their internalized self worth, only their having executed on their plan.

The same quality is what drives nearly all very successful investors.

>>22638270
That's good and genuine curiosity in human beings is one of the most important life skills
Dale Carnegie was right

>>22638273
I am happy that you are happy

>>22638309
I'll see you on the other side

>> No.22638765

>>22638619
>It's just one of those topics that people are really seething about because if its primarily a mindset problem, then the fault lies individually. But if its a social problem then no individual blame can be issued so they feel no remorse wallowing in muck. And people will follow that narrative, until it literally kills them if need be. It is truly the gravest sin; what OP called cowardice and what I call shirking.

Yeah that's true. The fault does lie individually. Mind you, I do think society plays some role in it too. My fuck up of previous chances, though entirely of my own making, was by trying to apply a paradigm that worked and was valued in lower end circles in the higher end ones. I should perhaps have known better, but at the time I didn't. Still my error, and I do certainly see that now, but certainly one informed by the mores of whatever society i was in at the time. Having learned that on my own skin, I try not to judge the wallowers too much, because for many it's very difficult to paradigm shift.

>> No.22638856

>>22638765
You will find that most every clique has at least one narrative that's bullshit that at least some of its members believes in. Since I am not an upper cruster I am not privy to their internal lore, so I can only speculate as to their own flavor of kool-aid, but I am reasonably confident that it exists; few people are purely truthful to themselves and each other.

>> No.22638919

>>22638856
>You will find that most every clique has at least one narrative that's bullshit that at least some of its members believes in. Since I am not an upper cruster I am not privy to their internal lore, so I can only speculate as to their own flavor of kool-aid, but I am reasonably confident that it exists; few people are purely truthful to themselves and each other.

It does. But it isn't wrong necessarily. Social graces is one of the big keys for upper crusters I've found, and I didn't understand that then and valued other things more. I would honestly say that social graces displaces even loyalty, but that could just be my experience. It makes for some weirdness, but I think it's part of what maintains the cohesiveness.

This is partly why I think OP is at least somewhat on the level. I thoroughly underestimated that aspect of the upper crust.

>> No.22638940

>>22637513
>>they are tall, intelligent and well mannered
>Are you retarded? The average entrepreneurial Jew/Italian/Greek/Persian is not tall. 99% of white angloshits get outperformed by 1st generation immigrants from the above ethnicities.

I'm a 5'6 curry manlet and some people tell me because of the way I carry myself, I look taller and more intimidating than I actually am.

>> No.22638999

>>22634975
It can never be "your" board because you're in a different shitcoin every couple of weeks, desperately trying to make a $200 profit before everyone jumps ship

>> No.22639000

>>22638076
If you actually read the Bible and take in what Christ says, you reach something that is the opposite of mainstream Christianity and also the opposite of the awful "prosperity gospel" cancer that has become popular.

Christ advocates for living joyfully in the knowledge of given salvation and acting morally as a result of that. The natural result of those actions is wealth and prosperity. Christ tells you to be prepared to have faith in God even if that is taken from you (the book of Job being an example). That is, however, the exception not the rule. Which is why it is interesting. The actual average Christian should be generally happy, wealthy and moral.

>> No.22639002

>>22638665

What would you say is the relative value of paying down debt vs. accumulating crypto at this point in time? Is there sufficient time left to pay first and then accumulate, or do you think the changes which are coming will be such that it's better to accumulate because wealth scale up will happen quicker?

>> No.22639068

hi

>> No.22639071

"I pass through this people and keep mine eyes open: they do not forgive me for not envying their virtues.
They bite at me, because I say unto them that for small people, small virtues are necessary- and because it is hard for me to understand that small people are necessary!
Here I am still like a cock in a strange farm yard, at which even the hens peck: but on that account I am not unfriendly to the hens.
I am courteous towards them, as towards all small annoyances; to be prickly towards what is small, seemeth to me wisdom for hedgehogs.
They all speak of me when they sit around their fire in the evening - they speak of me, but no one thinketh - of me!"

>> No.22639154

>>22639000
God given digits

>> No.22639185

>>22639000
You seem to heavily emphasise morality. As an insider, what's your take on the Epstein situation?

>> No.22639239

>>22638240
I think OP is saying that to truly be a member of his upper class, your worth is more about how you carry yourself and about the connections you make with your peers, than about being in the rat race to make a lot of money.

When most people become rich they want to be Donald Trump. OP is part of a different breed. Even if he's not a billionaire, he's old money.

>> No.22639487

>>22639002
I'm not OP but I'm not paying anything off. I'm paying bare minimum and dragging everything out as long as possible. Even if one of my credit cards has 22% APR, I made 40% gains in my first year of investing. If I paid off my credit cards early like /r/personalfinance told me to do, I would still have credit card debt and student loans and no crypto.

>> No.22639522

>>22638999

btfo'd


this thread is a good read. 10/10 LARPing OP

>> No.22639531

>>22634946
You are an idiot! The USA elite are rotten to the core!

>> No.22639598

>>22638499
It sounds as though you have the internal part sorted out, which is the hardest part.
Do not seek out any group because of who they are. Instead treat all people around you as something like a magical casino where you either get your money back or win. If you simply talk to those people who appear interesting to you, most times you will end up talking to a boring person, but sometimes you'll end up talking to a billionaire. Sometimes you'll end up talking to someone on his way up who will not forget you when they do become someone prominent. And sometimes you'll end up talking to someone who just happens to have a sweet beautiful sister or daughter that just needs someone to get them out of the house.

>>22638509
The point of this is to shill those who understand things like link

>>22638619
This is exactly why lying about cowardice being a sin is a truly evil move that I find hard to tolerate. This is a topic that does divide many even at the top, but I am firmly on the side that if one intentionally lies about this topic, it is an evil act.

>>22638940
One thing that people who are in your shoes often overlook is the power of defying expectations. Someone who looks like old money is expected to behave well, anything less is a disappointment.
Being articulate and graceful while not from a background where it is normal is powerful.

>> No.22639600

Come from a Family of generational Railroad workers,

Alcoholism is rampant, mental health is poor among Family.

Be me: Tall white, blue eyes, married a strong moral woman, homeschool children, got a job at railroad.

Made every financial mistake in the book. Today I am recovering from said mistakes, selling high priced home to downgrade and start over with as little overhead as possible. Invested in XRP, VET. HBAR, THETA. Grow own food.

Read:

How to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie.

The Richest Man in Babylon,

The Millionaire Next Door

Think and Grow Rich.

Following the info from those books to create a future for my children. Also follow Christ and use this method in decision making:

Ask myself, What would Christ do?

Thanks for the thread OP, confident I am on the yellow brick road.

>> No.22639638

>>22639487
>I'm not OP but I'm not paying anything off. I'm paying bare minimum and dragging everything out as long as possible. Even if one of my credit cards has 22% APR, I made 40% gains in my first year of investing. If I paid off my credit cards early like /r/personalfinance told me to do, I would still have credit card debt and student loans and no crypto.

Fair enough. So far been paying off CCs and almost done. Last bull run I hodled myself into oblivion when I could've been debt free so I guess I have some left over reticence due to that lol. Either way, thanks for input!

>> No.22639666

>>22634946
>It's been collectively decided that it's time to shake things up...
Like how larping faggot. Also post stock portfolio, doomsday device, bondage & lasers setup, and gold safe or you're a niggerfaggot.

>> No.22639673

>>22636504
That's why I appreciate what's been posted so far. First things first is to make sure at least a generation or two of my bloodline is set for life. After that is when I pursue my other goals of trying to undo this cycle of degeneracy that's basically destroyed my country from the inside out. I know I won't be alive to see it, but the best thing I can do plant my seeds and hope my garden bears the fruit of a morally better society.

>> No.22639685

>>22639598
What are you currently invested in? Besides anons here with strong morals making it. Do you at least have some linkies for the memes?

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>>22639598
>And sometimes you'll end up talking to someone who just happens to have a sweet beautiful sister or daughter that just needs someone to get them out of the house.

larp was good up until you just revealed you're taking inspiration from Dumb and Dumber. Jeez.

>> No.22639740

>>22639598
Speaking as someone from the bottom of the pyramid looking up, I can see why some might think lying is the better course. A lot of people aren't ever getting out of the mental jail cell they've made for themselves, even if society changes around them. Now, I don't think they're advocating it because they feel compassion for them, but to gain or maintain control. But I can see the logic they might employ for it.

>> No.22639752

>>22639002
From a financial perspective this depends on risk tolerance.
I would make a simpler argument: debt corrodes your soul and daily harms your quality of life. Even if it is the suboptimal financially you will gain more to eliminate debt.
If your employer starts acting in an immoral fashion, you can leave
If you have an opportunity that involves short term risk of no income, you can take it

>>22639531
If you feel this way your options are simple:

Try to work within the system to make it more fair and less corrupt
Try to convince people that the system is irreversibly broken and must be overthrown by force

Do you notice how whining like a pathetic child is not a part of either of those logical pathways?

>> No.22639821

>>22639752

Thanks OP! I've enjoyed our discussions so far, and the things you've shared with us. Appreciate you spending your time on this.

>> No.22639864

>>22639740
Fake it till you make it. I faked confidence until it became a way of life.

My parents are terrible with money and so was I until 2019 when I finally decided to learn how to invest and got into crypto.

>> No.22639866

>>22636278
But, why male models ?

>> No.22639884

>>22639185
Similar to the above post on what the jews are and arent, I think the entire situation is exactly what it appears to be:

A teacher in new york realized that a significant proportion of people have pedophilic tendencies (ironically if you read published papers on human sexuality this is well established, at least in the sense of what is considered underage in America). He then realized that those people with lots of money and that desire would pay lots of money and give lots of power to fulfill that desire. He leveraged that to get a multi million dollar townhouse given to him by les wexner and leveraged that to get off when busted through the clintons. When he was arrested the second time people realized that he couldn't be trusted to keep quiet and so a large sum was paid to the large male guard at his jail to strangle him.

>> No.22639898

>>22639864
You're not wrong, Anon.

>> No.22639932

>>22634946
They literally look like pigs that are all dressed up with lipstick. Except the blonde one on the right looks like my wife.

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>>22639884
Based and Epstein-pilled.

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>>22635150
>Its the petty bureaucrats and "visitor class" who are the leeches and problems of society goyim chainlink will fixthis

We are reaching levels of pilpul that shouldnt be possible

>> No.22640010

>>22639638
You can't HODL into oblivion in a volatile market. Lots of people did that with stocks in the 1990s and never recovered. The idea is to take profits in different steps.

For example, let's say you can reasonably expect your cryptos to go up 10x in 2 years. No matter what happens, you might sell 10% of your coins at each price level when they go up 2x, 5x, 8x, 10x, 12x, etc.

Make a spreadsheet where you write down how much you will sell at these prices, and what exactly you will buy with them.

For me, the first jump off point will go to seed money in my friend's business. Second, down payment on a house. Third, all debts paid off.

After that, even a couple hundred thousand dollars is more money than I can imagine holding. I'll decide what to do with the time comes.

>> No.22640051

>>22640010
>For me, the first jump off point will go to seed money in my friend's business. Second, down payment on a house. Third, all debts paid off.
>After that, even a couple hundred thousand dollars is more money than I can imagine holding. I'll decide what to do with the time comes.

Yeah, you're right. That's certainly not a mistake I'm making again.

Thanks for the good idea on the spreadsheet! Will do that this PM.

>> No.22640168

this is a pretty ironic larp in that you know whatever words you give to anybody won't mean a goddamn thing against the years of bad habits and shit circumstances
there's no elixir nor bundle of words that'll ever set people right, only experience which few ever listen to
no point priding yourself in being top echelon or even wanting to be there because this is just a soap opera, it's a classroom, it's just children gossiping
can't "rise" back to the top if your entire bloodline is killed silver spoon faggot

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>>22636275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdNkUfeqQAw
Just like in Yandhi
>invested in humanity

helping yourself is helping others. There's no reason for people to refuse you, if you're just guiding them through >stormy skies

>> No.22640422

>>22635811
>strong morals
it's genetic

>> No.22640430

>>22639884
Now, you listen to me, and you listen to me good.
My ancestors were royalty from one side, high bourgeoisie from the other. I'm neither. I'm an impoverished lower middle class with a high scholl diploma, I'm not sure what I want from life, I'm a neurotic mess. But know for one thing.

There are people in this world who know not only from news but also from firsthand how disgusting, parasitic and profiteering you so called newcomer ultra class are. And you know what. I'm not like my coworkers, I don't understand people of my classes, I'm often discouraged by them. But some of them, few compared to the overall population but still a lot in the end, refuse to live which whatever games you give us to play. We want everything. Not for ourselves only, but for all of mankind. So here me out anon, your class better step down from it's high horses before we, who have in the end nothing to loose, come and get you. I'm not here to reclaim my legacy. i'm here to create one for futures generations, not only for my kids, but for everyone kids, including yours in the end. And if you dare yo stand before my goal, you and every bootlicker in this thread, in real life and in the underworld, you'll pay whatever the cost we deem fit. God is with us.

You have been warned, parasite.

>> No.22640489

>>22640051
Here's another strategy that involves lying. I got put on a hardship program for all of my debts. I stopped paying them at the beginning of the pandemic and after 3 months they were all begging to work with me.

I exaggerated (not lying outright) about my income being lower and not getting unemployment due to system glitches. So I pay low monthly payments ($50 per credit card), and my effective interest rate is 5-12% per card, significantly less than I was paying before.

Car loans? Be careful because they will repossess. If they offer you a deferral due to hardship, get it in writing. I got 3 months in one car and 2 months in another car deferred.

Student loans? Pay interest only because at least that is tax deductible, and it will keep them off your back.

Any debt with no collateral, let it go to collections and either do a low monthly payment plan or lump sum settlement.

Now that you've dealt with these creditors, you can focus all your time and extra money on investing. Study these projects and put your money where it matters. Don't just day trade and gamble.

Short term, my method will destroy your credit score. Banks will ignore bankruptcies after 2-3 years anyway and you will be rich enough by then to not care anymore.

>> No.22640537

>>22639752
I agree. I actively seek to improve myself. I want to be a better person and shun the corruption of society.

What do you think of Vox Day and his latest take on the state of America

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/09/blinded-by-lies.html

"I left the USA in part because at the age of 20 I was given the opportunity to see, up close and personal, what sort of people were at the very heart of power in the USA. And they were not only mediocrities, they were corrupt to the bone, without an atom of truth or honesty or integrity in them.

Perhaps the most accurate way to describe the present system of US government is wickedocracy, or if you prefer, iniquitocracy. Advancement within the system depends upon one's willingness to take the ticket, to sell one's soul, to render oneself a hostage to the rulers of the darkness of this world. This is why the establishment hates President Trump and Qanon with such a virulent passion. The President and the movement represent the first genuine threat to the wickedocracy in generations."

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>>22636381
>Do you think the above aspects of jewish culture will always be advantageous?

emphasis on
>stormy skies

>> No.22640887

>>22640430
based. op is a faggot parasite.

>> No.22640997

>>22640489

Thanks! I suppose it could work, but i'd rather not lie. Could've been 100% debt free if I had due to my GVT 'rona programs, but that didn't feel right, even if others were doing it.

>> No.22641015

Bump

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>>22634946
>Hello, I'm your better
>Here's a bone for those of you who figured out link and the 4th industrial revolution
>Smartcontract's team will change not only the financial landscape but also the entire fabric of society
>The reality of the world, which some of you have figured out, is that the wealthiest echelons really do make all the relevant decisions
>In the United States there are about 15000 families that fall into this category
>Contrary to the fantasies we feed you working class, the majority of people in that group are exactly who you would want to have power: self made wealth with strong morals
>There are, of course, exceptions. This has been true since the beginning of time
>But those exceptions exist because we allow them, not because we like them
>In fact we look down on flashy money and dirty money just like we look down on the average idiot without the self discipline to not spend his entire paycheck

>> No.22641020

this thread blows.

>> No.22641137

>>22640997
>
>Thanks! I suppose it could work, but i'd rather not lie. Could've been 100% debt free if I had due to my GVT 'rona programs, but that didn't feel right, even if others were doing it.

Play the cards you're dealt. If you're black and in college, you would be stupid not to take scholarships for black students. And these Banks don't have the resources to sue everyone.

All the money is created through fractional reserve banking and therefore doesn't exist. The bank loans you money that doesn't exist and you work hard to give them all your money plus fake interest.

Every bank has a minimum amount of money they will accept for your debts. Find out what that is and never pay a cent more.

Rich people never pay off their debts. Many of them do what I described.

>> No.22641536
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>>22636877
Absolutely false. God said all can be saved and blessed.
Genesis 12:3

“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
Not people with a certain blood coursing through their veins. That is fake Jew talk. God has a plan for those.
Revelation 3:9
King James Version
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

>> No.22641749

>>22641137
how do I find that out for my mortgage?

>> No.22641872

>>22634946
Blockchain solves ONE problem: confirmation in trustless environment which is pretty tight niche compared to what crypto does now, and even then it does its job poorly because its simply bad at scale and speed
L2 solutions are basically throwing said blockchain into dumpster, getting pretty fucked in the point of reentrying said blockchain (yeah instant tnxs no fees but uh oh you have to re-enter blockchain and here your fees and here's you 1h confirmation time again). LN, Plasma, Raiden are all fucking crabbing because devs still in denial they have to deal with all that rage once L2 won't solve anything so they delay it indefinetely
Sharding is literally a mental gymnastics over current blockchain structures, since once you try to perform CROSS-SHARD tnxs (and basically it won't be even that rare to perform cross-shard tnxs), you'll have to deal with Beacon Chain which itself might really be SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE given its PoS nature (and we know PoS has security issues unlike PoW). In ETH2 Phase 1 shards you basically have 1/64 chance to pay 1/64 of current fees at x64 confirmation speed, and 63/64 chance paying basically the same fee as today, with same speed as well. WOW.
Crypto would sink like everything else in impeding Greater Depression. You better prepare to survive that collapse of consumerist society, you don't have much time left.
There won't be 4th industrial revolution. We would make 3rd industrial revolution again in a decade if we lucky.

>> No.22641928

>>22641749
>how do I find that out for my mortgage?

I don't have a house so I can't help you there. I can't get a qualified mortgage due to being self employed (thank you Dodd-Frank). My options are to either get a subprime mortgage with a high down payment or buy the house outright. I can do both with crypto.

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Mysterium Magnum.

>> No.22641948

>>22641872
tl;dr - all devs at crypto hit the wall with scalability issue and there is no silver bullet. They won't admit it because there is too much money spotlight and hopium for them, so they gonna delay the inevitable as much as they can. Just like fed delaying the devastation of every existing market. It's inevitable.

>> No.22641964

>>22635593
NOTHING IS MORALLY SUPERIOR ABOUT USING SLICK MOUTH TO STEAL PRODUCT OF LABOR FROM WORKING MAN.

>> No.22641972

>>22639002
ive been asking myself the same question for the previous couple of months.
I've personally came to the conclusion to take on debt in order to accumulate crypto. It has paid off thus far financially (I can pay off the debt ten fold with the gains made by acquiring the debt)
Though I have undoubtedly experienced higher levels of stress and I am unable to focus on my other pursuits of happiness with the same intensity as before.
Currently finding a balance where I take on debt but try to not have it be more than 2-3 months of cashflow. This is so that it is not as big of a looming dark cloud with the risk of failure being present. We will likely see how our strategies pay off within the next months.

>> No.22641973

>>22640430

what the fuck are you on about mate

>> No.22642180

>>22641973
I'm a man with a plan and with the contacts to push it, a day. There are many reasons why people are on bie to make money. For my own power ? No, I lack the charisma and intelligence do so. For glory ? Why not. For justice ? In a kind yes, but that's relative. There are many wars to come in this century.

>> No.22642365

>>22642180

ah right, schizo talk. cool

>> No.22642443

>>22642365
https://www.amazon.fr/Political-Ponerology-Adjusted-Lobaczewski-2007-04-04/dp/B01K3JXHFM/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&qid=1600546960&refinements=p_27%3AAndrew+M.+Lobaczewski&s=books&sr=1-2&text=Andrew+M.+Lobaczewski

Made me chuckle ! Made me think about this book. Quite the interesting albeit a bit too pseudo-scientific. In short it talk about the influence of shizoids, paranoids and psychopaths on political systems.

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>>22634946
Thank you. See you on the other side

>> No.22642522

>>22637513
Upper middle class German immigrant here,
my dad's side of the family is successful, lanky, tall, and intelligent.
You seem to think that only Meds get anywhere in life. Get real.

>> No.22642570

>>22636978
Any thoughts on this OP if you're still here? Is that your long term price target (I know you said you can't predict price in a specific timeframe but you seem to have an idea in your head)

>> No.22642660

>>22642570
If you look more closely he gave the nod of approval to a top 500 wallet holder. That's well short of 500k anon.

>> No.22642679

>>22641948
We're not done trying, though it's true that current scaling solutions blow and their devs are chugging copium

>> No.22642707

>>22639752
Are you really gonna leave without telling us what you're holding for short, medium and long-term?

>> No.22642817

>>22642660
True I guess we really are all gonna make it, assuming nod of approval = billionaire.

>> No.22642998

>>22637286
read it again Dimitriev

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>>22635062
>Then tech nerds
the worst
women didn't like these dorks when they were teenagers, now the whole world has to suffer because these betas want revenge
https://youtu.be/f2NheI2Xdvk

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>>22635150
>So it's time to retire them by automating away their margin
that's great news

>> No.22643292

>>22635366
>like we have since time immemorial.
Are you saying that these families have been on the top since time immemorial? Or just these types of people? Or your tribe?

>> No.22643309

>>22637422
checked.

>> No.22643370

>>22635741
If you are from prominent family, you will always feel bitter because you can never truly be "self-made". This is the absolute cope. You can never truly live. You are just shadow of your self-made father. You have no idea what it is to be poor. You are afraid of the unknown and this makes you weaker and weaker.

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>>22634946
>the majority of people in that group are exactly who you would want to have power: self made wealth with strong morals

Absolute HORSESHIT! The Western world now has the highest level of technology and value production in all of history yet 90+% of people are slaves in all but name, leading worse lives than a 100 years ago, arguably worse even than Medieval serfs who owned land and real estate and only worked 2/3 days.

You live in a shoebox, crushed by debt indefinitely, a small glowy screen simulating fulfillment that is unattainable to you. You think this is a system that simply emerged? This was by design.

>> No.22644275

>>22640537

Vox Day is pure silver spoon, fuck him

>> No.22644348

>>22634946
Is this the girlfriend store from those /r9k/ threads from years ago?

>> No.22644488

>>22643093
42 - is link related to the qfs system?

>> No.22644498

>>22641972

how do you take on the debt to get the crypto? every credit card provider i've tried blocks fiat to crypto tx. In UK

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>>22644488
>42 - is link related to the qfs system?
it's a WHO meeting
looks like something from austin powers haha

>> No.22644807

>>22643093
aesop rock's based

>> No.22644826

>>22634946
Tell me: was Covid engineered to hasten the next turning?

You can always point to moments in history when the world changed and adopted new ideas.

Is Covid the precursor to that moment?

>> No.22645011

I wish /biz/ would stop being a substitute for a mental ward.

>> No.22645432

>>22644498
You'll need to buy as much ETH as possible and just start buying what you believe in. Do your homework to avoid gambling as much as possible

>> No.22645630

>>22645432

what's that got to do with buying crypto on credit?

>> No.22645641

Rich people intimidato me. My ex was from oil money and lots of cfp's in her family. I saw some of their holdings and it honestly blew my mind that it's possible to even have that much come in each quarter without a wagie job no less.
I just want to do my own thing and be quiet, fade into the background and comfort.

>> No.22646058

>>22634946
see you soon OP, I'm a first gen immigrant from a working class family and I've managed to get a job that'll put me in the upper middle class within a few years. I've realized however that moving up even more is completely possible in this timeline and coming from a college with a strong alumni network will only make it easier. My parents would be content with me keeping this job or even if I just stayed home and worked without college but I want to elevate my entire family because why not? I only have this life to do it and I don't have any other obligations outside of work.

>> No.22646331

>>22639884
What's the story behind this pic in the OP?

>> No.22646855

>>22644559
This is not as clarifying as i would've hoped....

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>>22634946
take note that these types of posts come out when the price is dumping. every single time.

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based thread op very close in writing style and attitude to the hidden hand above top secret poster from over ten years ago: the point at while dynastic old money becomes esoteric and possibly alien in order. Beyond money, lie symbols that guide intergenerational wealth preservation and accumulation. You can only teach and hope that certain symbolic systems provide enough guidance for your offspring to remain within the network.
> don't consume simply to consume
> be mindful of lifestyle patterns and the harm they can bring
> network like you do in vidya: don't judge until you truly understand another (if ever)
> carry yourself like a king for truth
The only thing I need to school myself in is the rules of the game according to the rich: lending off of asserts as derivatives and so forth in addition to the addictions of lower and middle class society (alcohol, drugs, media etc.) and procreation.
T. top 1500 LINK holder ready to be self sovereign

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>>22647083
*the point at which dynastic old money becomes esoteric and possibly alien in origin (alien as in extremely foreign to the majority)

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6’8”

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>>22646058

winced reading this

>> No.22647482

>>22647083
What did you mean by network like you do in vidya?

>> No.22647559

>>22647482
talk to everyone and identify npcs versus actual interesting characters without judging them. npc might be a temporary status you never know desu

>> No.22647596

>>22638195
>I am here trying to shill actions that prevent class cycling and ensure upward mobility

why?

>> No.22647606

I believe you, OP, and this thread makes me so upset for having sold almost 1m link at $4.

G-go on without me bros

I'll just pay more short-term capital gains and NY state income taxes and live on 3% annually of the $1.8m I have leftover.

>> No.22647642

>>22635482
Unless I put a bullet in your tall ass head first.

>> No.22647681

>>22647559
That makes sense, just realized I waste a lot of time on NPCs, thanks for the explanation

>> No.22647765

>>22647028
noted!

>> No.22647984

>>22647606
Why the hell wouldn't you buy back in if you believe him? You could still easily have a 6 figure stack. Or if that's too much risk for you, just grab 10k, that won't even cost you a tenth of your net worth.

>> No.22648059

OP is dumb pretentious faggot. The real power is the influence over the masses of people. Money just allows that to be easier as everyone collectively decided it was valuable are on board with the current system. People perpetuate systems and those can change a whim. People themselves are what the elite compete over.

>> No.22648105

>>22647984
Whats the point in having a linklet stack of 100k

It won't be enough to be in OP's position - if OP is so wealthy, he's likely got way more than that

I'll forever be a linklet even if I buy in now

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> be Ari Juels
> Tell weird philosophy student about an oracle problem and introduce him to your number cult
> "Remember the 42 and 216 goy"
> Tell him that muh tech can solve this problem
> "You can even put your name on this white paper I wrote, Sergey, I get enough credit"
> "You're a smart man Ari"
> Ask Sergey to put together a team of saps
> he meets Adelyn crying over some spelling contest at a local community college and Steve at the bus stop
> Thomas was a neet whose mom forced him to apply for part time work at the nail salon in front of Chainlink HQ
> Everyone else was (((recruited online organically through JIDF channels)))
> Jonny used to post exclusively on anonymous horse and stable coin forums
> "Here, Sergey, Chainlink will solve all the problems of the oracle"
> "Gee thanks Ari you're the best"
> 32 million solved Ari's oracle problem... at least for awhile
> Ari exploits backdoor in Chainlink code
> Tell Sergey
> Sergey is devastated
> Sergey spams "it's over" threads on /biz/
> "It's okay I have an idea"
> Sell Town Crier solution to Sergey "hey I was just working on this and thought you might like it :^)"
> A few more million solved Ari's oracle problem.... At least for awhile
> Ari exploits TC code through backdoor and informs Sergey
> Sergey is suicidal
> He begins spamming tranny porn on /biz/ in revenge
> "It's okay Sergey I've got a new solution to your oracle problem but we have to include my student in this scam I mean company"
> A few more million solves Ari's and Zhang's oracle problem"
Hook, Line, and Stinker

>> No.22648263

I'd love to believe OP, but a benevolent rich ruling class is just too good to be true. it's obviously the Jews who are in control.

>> No.22648321

>Here's a bone for those of you who figured out link and the 4th industrial revolution

LINK has nothing to do with it and neither does Eth, neither does any other token or blockchain. The horizontal economy has been theorized since the 19 fucking 30s, my man and it was always understood that what kept the paradigm in a hierarchically structured configuration was the speed of market information and transaction costs which arise when facilitating transactions between independent firms. If you want to make money on this revolution you have to keep your ear to the ground and that's all there is to it, do your research, lads.

>> No.22648322

>>22635626
>To give you fair warning
what is the warning? to not be a middleman? to buy more link? how is owning link going to make me not ugly and short? are you drunk by any chance?

>> No.22648338

>>22635672
have you seen XRP threads? those make this thread look like a nice park on a summer day.

>> No.22648421

>>22635741
>Self made
>From prominent family
Kek keep telling yourself you are a self made genius you fucking nobody
Post nose.

>> No.22648490

Great thread OP. I'm an Architectural Photographer in Los Angeles who has met and photographed the homes of many new rich and old money types. You're words echoe what I have seen in regards to both groups. I am slowly working my way up in wealth, and have learned a lot of great lessons from old money types

>> No.22648504

>>22648490
Flush yourself down the toilet.

>> No.22648993

>>22634946
I came in here thinking this would be an informative post about smart contacts and why they matter and it's just some larper

>> No.22649138

>>22644559
Are you a fan of jungian philosophy?
Do you pay any attention to your dreams, 42?

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